You are wrong the gold blood isn’t from gods those are robots or automatons based on talos the first AI a giant bronze man built by Hephaestus, the Greek god of invention and blacksmithing. Talos was commissioned by Zeus, the king of Greek gods, to protect the island of Crete from invaders. He marched around the island three times every day and hurled boulders at approaching enemy ships. Anyways the death of said taken produced molten lead similar to this… alternatively they could be the golden age of men … Greek mythology is weird with their alternative human origins
I want to see Hercules after being introduced now we getting more mcu gods now we understand why gods didn’t want to stay and help humans but moon knight explained well and it crazy that mcu gods now are pissed with the earth heroes.
There's a shot right before Jane shows up at the end to help Thor when Gor is pushing the Necrosword into his chest that mirrors the scene from Endgame when Thanos is pushing Stormbreaker into Thors chest and is interrupted by Mjolnir hitting him out of nowhere, but this time instead of Thor's reaction being joyful that his friend was found worthy, he's saddened that Jane came anyway.
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. My only complaint is that there should have been more screen time with Gorr. We should have had at least 1 or 2 more scenes of Gorr hunting and killings gods. The film didn't convey how much of a threat Gorr could be. The film needed those extra scenes with the villain.
@@Christian2496529 it’s more that it was a little disjointed early on, as well as the disappointment of the way they rushed through the Thor/Guardians team-up. Some of the acting felt a little OTT in the early scenes, sure, but once Thor returned to New Asgard it really kicked in and was great from there (although Crowe has me very on the fence…)
There's a shot right before Jane shows up at the end to help Thor when Gor is pushing the Necrosword into his chest that mirrors the scene from Endgame when Thanos is pushing Stormbreaker into Thors chest and is interrupted by Mjolnir hitting him out of nowhere, but this time instead of Thor's reaction being joyful that his friend was found worthy, he's saddened that Jane came anyway.
The look on Thor's face when he saw Jane and realized that hope for her ability to live was gone actually choked me up a little, and that is pretty rare for a movie or series. Kudos to Hemsworth who not only killed it throughout the movie, but really delivered using just a facial expression.
One thing that you missed: When Thor imbues the children with power, it visually represents the branches of Yggdrasil with Thor being the trunk. @31:54
It's cute that they casted Chris Hemsworth's daughter as Gorr's daughter who Thor adopts. I didn't notice that they did until I saw this video, they truly had great father & daughter chemistry in the ending.
I love when Korg starts detailing the emotional state of the characters: Thor missing his hammer in Ragnorok and Valkyrie drinking because she missed her lover in Love and Thunder. The fact that Waititi voices Korg makes it feel like a fourth wall break explicitly telling the audience how they feel, which is hilarious to me.
@@blinkenschnaag777 Imagine thinking you've *Found* A "Hidden Agenda" because of Literally NON-Hidden Stuff in Some Movies. Do you Also believe that Global Elites are Satanic Pedos Who Sacrifice Children for a Relatively Unremarkable & Easily-Made Chemical, and that they deliberately leave Trails & Clues just for you & your buddies to find & follow?!...
The scene where thor holds off 2 bikers doing a split recalls specifically the commercial Van Damme did for Volvo doing a split on top of 2 semis. It even zooms outward in a similar way.
Not everyone is classically trained in understanding classic Easter eggs and references like you and I… just consider everyone who is a MCU fan was born after 2000 and grew up with Toby Maguire being the face of Marvel….
@@catierose3647 some of those "classic Easter eggs" are not possible to spot, because of cultural differences. VanDamme comercial might not even be broadcast in Europe, Asia or Africa ... some parts of american culture is not relevant outside the USA, especially things from before Internet era
The kid holding the stuffed animal bunny shooting lasers at the shadow monsters is a call back to Winter Soldier holding Rocket (while Thor always called Rabbit) in one hand and spinning in circles shooting at the bad guys!
Thor 4 is definitely my favorite film in Phase 4. Loved the cinematography, mythic theme, how Korg's narrations delivered why the movie is Love & Thunder. No matter what the critics say it's my top film in MCU.
In the Asgard battle, Thor "went for the head" of that large shadow creature! Nice callback and it shows Thor's growth and him becoming smarter as a warrior!
Gorr's scars are super significant. I'm guessing they are a deleted scene in the movie to avoid a trigger warning on self harm, but his scars appear only in places where he was formerly tattooed. Down the lines on his head and arms. Clearly these wounds were self inflicted because he preferred the pain and scars to wearing the signs of his devotion to a false god. They are too intentionally placed to be the result of a battle.
I understand they deleted the scene of Gorr removing his tattoos because it was pretty gory, but I wish they’d have alluded to it. It would’ve fleshed out his motivation and intensity and clarified the story.
@@intothefrayyo I'm sure referenceable evidence of this will be available shortly if it isn't already. I'll gladly find you some and post. This is what happened. Not a crazy theory
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I just love how you “pretend” it is about Easter eggs and give your analysis. A profound and elaborated one! Congrats!
Haha I don't think he was pretending. If it were just about Easter eggs it would have only been maybe 15 minutes. And he begs acknowledgement for a prediction. Not too subtle. But it was a tad cringe
Another symbolic easter egg is the death of Gorr. When his daughter dies and he lives there's no water and she dies in the desert. When he dies and she lives, they're surrounded by water. A contrast of giving life so another can live. Also, I thought Thor had two different eye colors from the one Rocket gave him. Wtf?
@@cwhitemusic i remember a scene where someone either changed its colour or completely healed it or something with magic or their powers. You'd have to google it, i cant remember
When Thor was pointing out the Gods, he said “There’s the God of carpenters.” They didn’t show the God, but I immediately said “Jesus is cannon”. Was it a nod to JC?
The whole 8+ year/3 year time difference is also significant and slightly meta because Thor the Dark World was released about 8 and a half years before Thor Love and Thunder. As you mention, deleted scenes were used in Avengers Endgame which was released three years ago. So Portman's line may also be referencing the last time the two of them appeared in a movie together, and Hemsworth's line references the last time they actually filmed a movie together.
Jane was killed in the snap. Thor was not. So to Jane, it was only 3 years, but since Thor was alive, it was 8 to him. That's why that exchange happened...👌
@@tomorrowtodaylane Yes, that's a very strong and prevailing theory and was mentioned in this and other videos, and I'm not debating that's the most obvious literal in-universe interpretation to what is otherwise a joke about one character feeling the loss of a relationship more deeply and specifically than the other. But this is why I said the joke could ALSO have significance by being a meta joke for the actors. If it is just a coincidence it's a hell of a coincidence.
You have a lot of nerve posting crazy theories like this. Some people have fragile minds and can't take it. You think math is impressive. Numbers are stupid. You meta think twice next time. Lol sorry man, just messing with you. Just watched the video and saw your comment. See you at the end of the month man...
@@FireJach if you're counting from the day Thor the Dark World officially released (11/8/13) and the day of the Thor Love and Thunder premiere (6/22/22) that's 8 years, 7 months, 16 days. The Thor Love and Thunder release date also shifted around a bit so they may have tried to split the difference. Maybe instead of release dates they went with the last day the actors filmed together on Thor 2 and the first day they filmed together on Thor 4. That's harder to look up. If you do the same release date to premiere date, Avengers Endgame was 4/26/19 which is 3 years, 1 month, 29 days so between 3 and 4 years. As I said. possible coincidence and not a meta joke for the actors. But a lot of these Easter Eggs also could just be coincidences.
There are very interesting themes of faith vs nihilism in Love & Thunder as well. Jane and Gorr both face suffering that would break anyone’s heart. Jane, having a personal history/loving relationship with a god, turns to faith (Thor). Gorr, forsaken by his god, takes a more nihilistic path that recalls Nietzsche’s “God is dead”. Each of these empowers and drives them, but the plot doesn’t resolve until both powers are combined. In the end, both die yet each lives on - Jane in Valhalla and Gorr through Love
It is a fantastic movie! One scene missing in this breakdown is when Thor enchants Mjolnir to protect Jane in every circumstance. Thus, it seems that she is not only worthy but the love of Thor for her was marked as an enchantment in the hammer to give her protection. This scene was awesome and caught my attention!
Love the video, I have two and a half Easter Eggs. 1) The Wolf woman Thor was with on a wolf, was played by Chris Hemsworth’s wife Elsa Pataky 2) Ben Falcone, Melissa McCarthy’s Husband and frequent collaborator, played the Stage Director in the Asgardian play. 2 1/2) You mention the Raven Mail but Valkyrie says that some of her meetings could have been a Raven Mail, a play on the “This meeting could have be an email,” meme. Love what you guys do! Thanks for all your hard work!
Hard to believe it's been almost 10 years since we last saw Jaimie as Sif (yes I know she was briefly in Loki but that was just in Loki's head lol). Understandably she was busy with Blindspot during that time period. Now that the show is over though, it's great to see her back in the MCU!
Too bad they made a terrible joke while she’s dying in the snow cause that’s a great time to makes jokes. …. Story of this whole movie is one bad timing joke after another.
Almost every death scene in this movie was ruined by a joke. This was the first MCU I genuinely didn't enjoy. Not one person in my theater was yelling or clapping. I expected Eternals to fail, I didn't expect much from Black Widow, but I expected MUCH more from Thor.
I don't understand what was up with her acting in that scene. She's a good actor, so it was definitely Taika's directing, but as with a lot else in this one...it didn't work.
yess, it's the reason Jane is able to wield and use mjolnir. It's not bc she's worthy but it's because thor put his spell that mjolnir should protect Jane.
Yes and it seem Thor didn't mean it or know that it would become a spell. It seemed more like a moment where he chats to the hammer for the sake of it. But apparently it became like what Odin did back in THOR.
There is this scene where Thor talks to Mjöllnir to keep Jane safe, while she was sleeping - like the scene near the end when he empowered the kids. That might be the reason why Mjöllnir called out to Jane in the first place, because during that speech the sigil on Mjöllnir glowed the same way as it did as Odin spoke to the hammer. So it was Thors love for Jane which made her to Thor herself.
I want Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston to play their respective roles in the MCU as long as they can. I feel like they were born to play these roles.
I wasn't expecting to be so emotional by the end of the movie, actually crying. A work friend has just started chemo for stage 4 cancer herself, and the recap of Thor and Jane's relationship made me think of my last relationship, so yeah, I was a wreck by the end.
Yea this movie is called “Love and Thunder” casual MCU fans who complain about everything really missed the mark of what the story it was trying to tell subliminally. I was holding my fiancés hand the entire movie and looking at her every time a situation in the movie paralleled ours. Thor has lived longer and lost much more than any character in the MCU and is now the comedic prince of said universe…. “What is grief if not Love persevering”
I seen some where that Jane got to Valhalla because she lost her fight to cancer not because she died after the fight with gor, they made a point of it earlier in the movie to point out sif wouldn't go because the fight was over. Jane getting there shows cancer patients that they are true warriors
Eternity actually is the entity of space and infinity is time. Eternity in the original comics is hinted as creating the infinity gems. In the movie, this is why only by unlocking the door to Eternity, you can be granted any wish. The loophole was that the gauntlet would let you grant that wish. This is exactly why Eternity's realm looked similar... but in place of Eternity, there is a temple in his place acting as a proxy for him/it.
I was hoping for beta ray bill, hopefully some day soon, but I think Jane being in Valhalla could mean those in there will be back like they've been in the comics.
SAAAAAME man what the hell. If Beta had been alive, Jane dying of cancer wouldn't have happened. Valkyrie, Beta, and Thor would've been enough to kill Gorr.. Considering the fact that Beta is stronger than Thor.
One Easter egg you missed was in the opening marvel studios logo they included a new scene with Ms. Marvel in her full suit, which is from the final episode of Ms. Marvel that hasn’t actually been aired yet.
This Breakdown was mindblowing and thorough. You bring up things that I had no idea about, and things that I don't care about. There's so much info, that I have to watch this movie again!
The Maori God you pointed out - isn’t the Maori God, Tumatauenga (depicted here as Female) 99.9% certain she’s the god with a Tattoo on her chin. How do I know? I’m Maori. Tumatauenga is the GOD OF WAR in maori myths and legends, so maybe possibly this could be a nod to the theory that Aries may be in thors future given he is the GOD OF WAR ? Awesome breakdown though! Thank you 🙏
Agreed , and it was great to even hear Tumatauenga name mentioned being Māori was an awesome moment for me in the movie and Chris pronouncement was on point.
Me and a few of the bros were trying to figure who it could be. We landed on Hine Nui Te Po but Tumatauenga is certainly on the table if they have relaxed traditional gender depictions!
@@jedipsy yeah it did surprise me it was female, you could be right! But it seems like they’re breaking with canon to be more “inclusive”, as with korgs mum (Ragnarock), nope 🤫, now he has 2 dads? But probably more importantly it seems like the gods in omnipotent city are more self serving, malevolent gods, so Tūmatauenga kind of fits that mould better. Also… the fact that he (possibly she) is the god of war in this movie, and Hercules brother is Aries, the god of war, I think could be some foreshadowing for thor 5. But, who knows 🤷. Just a guess. The fact Taika got the ok from Kevin Feige to just add Tumatauenga, and Chris pronounced it perfectly, just blew my mind. I mean, the Maori Gods, are Canon, in the MCU ✋🤯🤚
I think if they showed you some gods in the beginning to establish their power levels. So when we see their bodies it would make Gorr feel more like a threat, and reveal Gorr's prayers to the Gods went unanswered later in the movie would be better.
That would be nice, I think they are expecting you to just kind of reference power levels from gods we do know, Loki, Thor, the Egypthian ones from Moon Knight but yeah we should have seen some goods doing more I think that's valid. Gorr did kill like... a thousand "lesser" gods though which is crazy
At the Beginning rocket mentions Thor saying it would be like a holiday and a Holiday would be nice, which the next time we’ll see the guardians is their holiday special. In Omnipotent city, they mentioned the “carpenter god” which I think was a nod to Jesus and I’m pretty sure at one point when they were on Aeger, Thor calls Valkyrie Tessa
I dont know who the god you pointed out was meant to be but it wasn't the Maori one listed in the credits. There was a very clear shot of a single goddess cheearing for Zeus during his entrance with moko kauae (chin tattoo), wearing a cloak, piupiu skirt, pounamu, etc., who obviously was the Maori goddess. Love the video!
Was gonna comment this exact thing until I seen your comment. I hope he apologises in the next video, either he got it wrong or someone behind the video did but that definitely ain’t Tūmatauenga the Maori god of war
Mm I dont know how he missed the 3 seperate shot's of the clearly Maori god lol.. Definitely just assumed and didn't do a quick google check! Allgood we can forgive him lol.
Thor Ragnarok is my favorite MCU movie by a long mile. I remember watching it and thinking, 'That was so good and fresh and actually felt like a pre-x-men movies marvel comic, I hope Waititi makes 30 more marvel films!' But sadly, his second marvel movie is a pale imposter of the first. Everything that felt fresh in Ragnarok feels forced or hokey in Love and Thunder. Maybe it's the absence of Loki and Hulk and Goldblum- or how they took the good, small bits of Ragnarok (the play, Korg) and repurposed and stretched them so thin in the new installment. BUT- I don't blame the team for my disappointment, that's on me and my probably too high expectations. I still hope Waititi comes back for Thor 5- I just hope he makes that one weirder.
I think watching this video made me like the film more. I was unsure of how silly at times it seemed but I had to admit now, there are so many things to think about from watching this video. I respect that they did something different rather than just doing Ragnorok 2. It feels unique and although, maybe not the tone I wanting for Gorr, it is exactly what it says on the tin, Love and Thunder. It's really a film about Love and I love that.
This is why our first stop after watching things is to come to this channel and get his take. I learn a lot about different universes that I wasn't as familiar with. I wish Ryan had videos on other types of shows, because I'm sure he would have a unique angle. Like we're watching the Mysterious Benedict Society, and I was thinking I bet he would have lots of insight on the color schemes, the camera angles, and potential symbolism that I can tell is there, but can't quite put into words. Sadly, there is no app for that lol.
I need to watch the film again, but Valkyrie might be my favorite character in it. I loved how she was the first on site when Gorr attacked New Asgard and then went off on the black berserkers despite still being in her pajamas; I was hoping she wouldn't be killed off since she's shown to actually be a worthy leader and protector of the Asgardians in the absence of Thor. I also like how Waititi and the writers made sure to depict her lack of attraction to Thor beginning in Ragnarok, opting instead to portray her as a genuinely good friend and wingwoman
@@thevileone91 solidified she's gay, yes, but she still admired the view when Thor got flicked too hard. To be fair, I'm not even gay and I'm still impressed, lol. Dude's built like a god.
Missed a few. Off top of my head, the shadow planet was straight out of "Little Prince" a French short story. Also, the calming Space Dolphins, can only be a nod to Lobo's random love for space dolphins in DC Universe. Though I agree, I don't know why they chose that. There seemed to be some Voldermort and Harry Potter references, Thor riding the axe. Also Gorr having a pet snake, though he kills it. (Possibly to confirm he's not Voldermort, which they had to avoid because they look similar)
I just watched the movie.. for me personally it’s a nice THOR movie but not on the level of ragnarok..and jane’s story was amazing.. gorr should have more screen time. Still I like what the movie told.. story is nice and compact.. I would say 7/10. Ragnarok - 8.5/10
Yeah like i feel gorr wouldve came off more menacing if they at least showed us him killing a god out side of the opening scene. They couldve had thor arrive right as gorr killed yhat one giant ice looking god and had gor say 'not yet' at it wouldve applied a much better tone
I enjoyed this film. Even if I hadn’t, I hope Marvel gives directors the freedom they gave on this, and Multiverse of Madness. Both films to me, feel like they were the creator’s vision. Thor 4 is silly and some humor feels forced. But when you are dealing with lost of parent, or a child, and something as devastating as cancer, you need it. As upset and hurt I felt, that ending was beautiful. I forgot how much Thor had lost. He needs a daughter as much as she needs a father.
I also thought of the Thor Corps when Thor gave the powers to the kids. Which I also liked this scene in the movie kind of taking the Asgardian kids back to more Viking roots of fighting as soon as you could.
I don't think this was mentioned: I felt they paid homage to Gladiator with the masks on the guards and the way they approached Thor the same way Russell Crowe was approached in the coliseum.
@@robinvandijk6195 To be fair, that’s not a high bar to clear, but I did really enjoy it too. It’s on par with Ragnarok for being the best that Thor has to offer.
OK guess I'm a minority here-- Thor Love and Thunder is one of my FAVORITE MCU movies... Wow!!! 😍😳 And Gorr? Thor? Jane? Valkyrie? MATT DAMON. They were INCREDIBLE
Hahaha I said that to my partner while waiting for the end credits scene, and she didnt get it until I explained that... I was like THAT was the joke; that's why we laughed at it! oh well. Atleast she had fun.
Guys, I watched this whole video and no mention of Singularity? When Love appears over her 'dad', you see her reflection and it is that of Singularity. I was really hoping you'd dive into that more.
There are two guitar solos in November Rain -- while the one in front of the church is more visually memorable, the one used in the movie is the one at the end where Slash is on top of the piano.
I don’t think you discussed it but Thor foreshadows his enchantment with the kids during the romance recap of Jane and Thor. Thor is able to put an enchant on Mjolnir by tasking the hammer to always protect Jane. This calls back to Odin and his worthy enchantment and foreshadows Thors enchantment of Zeus’s bolt to the children. There’s also a bit of a throw back to the comics bc Jane was able to wield Mjolnir in ways Thor never could (splitting the hammer into bits and using multiple projectile weapons) and it made him a bit jealous as well.
Foreshadowing: an indication of what is to come. How does showing Thor enchanting Mjolnir (by accident or on purpose and the first time we see him doing this, ever) not foreshadow or indicate at some point in the future he will use it again, intentionally?
@@joshualogan84 because it is the exact same thing, not just an indication. It's like saying Hawkeye shot an arrow with his bow foreshadowing Kate being able to shoot an arrow with her bow. The recap scene showed he's able to put an enchantment on other people although not knowingly at first, and then he did the exact same thing again and consciously this time when he imbued the kids with his power.
@@zumabbar When Thor is depicted the first time, whispering to Mjolnir that it needs to protect Jane, he did it in a moment of love. He was emotionally speaking to Mjolnir and in his emotion, he unknowingly enchanted the hammer with HIS power. He demonstrated a power he did not know he possessed (yet). At the end of the film, he knowingly places an enchantment on the bolt and distributes the BOLT’s power to the children. The foreshadowing is to the audience, showing a character can do something without the character knowing it or even acknowledging it and then that power coming into play later in the film, in a time of need and with full control of that power on display. Again, the definition is 'an indication of what is to come.' This small, unintentional enchantment foreshadows the fact that Thor will intentionally display a stronger version of the enchant in the future. The first time, enchanting his power and then later, enchanting another's power, this little enchant made (unintentionally) out of love for Jane is then foreshadowing a larger, intentional enchantment made out of love for his people. That's foreshadowing.
There was one scene during the movie when Thor was giving his power to the children and in the scene looked like a golden tree, a neat parallel to the tree of life in norse mythology
As a mythology nerd, I can't *wait* for this to be out on streaming so I can pause and play Where's Waldo with all the deities. Seeing the Maori goddess was such a cool nod for Taika's heritage!
The opening scene where Thor rides stormbreaker is not only an obvious Wizard of Oz reference but another one comes from when they first arrive to fight Gorr as the color fades away. So the tornado scene in reverse almost. Also towards the end, Thor was holding the frying pan really made me think of Tangled given that he and Rapunzel both have magical powers and long blonde hair.
I forgot to mention that in the opening battle when they play Guns N' Roses "Welcome to the Jungle" it reminded me of a similar scene in Megamind that also incorporated that song.
Couple Easter Eggs you missed; when Korg speaks of the Gods likely at Omnipotence City he mentions Tūmatauenga which is the Māori God of War. Also the flashback scene of Thor and Jane in costume is likely a nod to Taika's film Eagle vs Shark.
The scene in New Asgard where Mjolnir floats by Jane's hospital bed is also taken from Aaron's Mighty Thor run. She's fighting the Mangog in that one, but it calls to her to do the heroic thing, even though picking it up one more time will kill her. It was a great callback
I really wish we got to see Falligar while he was still alive. Dude was so OP, having won a annual gladiatorial tournament between gods 500 years in a row.
I actually think the biggest Development of the movie was love. That felt like the biggest new addition to the MCU because now thor has a daughter, it's gorr's biological daughter, and she not only wield stormbreaker ,but she has some of the power of eternity. That's a big fucking deal.
Yea this movie is called “Love and Thunder” casual MCU fans who complain about everything really missed the mark of what the story it was trying to tell subliminally. I was holding my fiancés hand the entire movie and looking at her every time a situation in the movie paralleled ours. Thor has lived longer and lost much more than any character in the MCU and is now the comedic prince of said universe…. “What is grief if not Love persevering”
Gorr asked Thor to call back Storm Breaker forcing him to choose love or allow someone to die, in the end Gorr choose love which allowed his daughter to live, losing his own life
“Eternity” was also the one word spoken by Peter Quill after Ego tapped his forehead in GOTG2 and unlocked the power of a celestial. Peters eyes also then turned black and starry which is exactly what eternity‘s body looks like.
Great video! One thing I caught on to after I left the movie was Korg's new friend. HIs name was Dwayne . Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Hilarious!!! Thanks for bringing us another great video. Off to watch the ending explained! So glad to see Roy Kent join the MCU!
@@blinkenschnaag777 Yes!!. My dumb self didn't pick up on that until my second viewing. They were holding hands with lava and rocks around them!! First viewing went by so fast, I missed a lot. Second time was great and I enjoyed the movie even more!
Thor's "Viking Long Boat" in Love and Thunder, is actually an ocean-going Māori waka - a waka hourua - complete with a deck whare decorated with carved kōura (crayfish) and Taika has kitted out the whare as an intergalactic tiki bar.
I loved the nod to Thor and Rocket’s relationship calling him rabbit, and then when he enchanted the kids and the one scene where her rabbit is seen just like Rocket 😂 so cute
One other TINY little detail that I, as a mad lord of the rings fan, noticed was when Gorr initially summoned the shadow creatures or whatever they were called in New Asgard, you can hear the sword make a Nazgul screech sound. idk if anyone else noticed this
The collision with the shadow planet was a Rick and Morty callback. That moment was so funny, it almost had me falling out of my chair🤣. That whole fight sequence on that planet was a true feast for eyes. Easily the best scene of the movie. Although there were some points the movie could improve, still the movie is amazing. Best mcu film since End Game imo.
One thing I noticed was in the scene where Thor gave the power to the kids the lightning went out to the kids and li looked like Yggdrasil the Norse tree of life.
When Thor is confessing his love to Jane on Aegin {the whole "You made me worthy scene"}, you can hear subtle musical cues that hearken back to the first Thor movie/
Easter Egg: when the young girl was using a stuffed animal as a weapon with Thor’s power and spinning in a circle killing everything. It was just like when Bucky picks up Rocket in Infinity War on Wakanda and swings him in a circle while he shoots.
I thought of "Brick" from the fight seen in anchor man, swinging around a hand grenade and screaming. Lol But that may say more about me than it dose this movie. Lol
Just got out of the cinema earlier today and it struck me that the Phantom of the Opera shirt Valkyrie wears (which you pointed out) might also connect to Eternity. Both the Phantom and Eternity have a half-face mask. Also, I thought that when Thor gives power to the young Asgardians, the golden flash looks like Yggdrasil the world tree, which as you mentioned, gets referenced quite a few other times in this movie.
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You are wrong the gold blood isn’t from gods those are robots or automatons based on talos the first AI a giant bronze man built by Hephaestus, the Greek god of invention and blacksmithing. Talos was commissioned by Zeus, the king of Greek gods, to protect the island of Crete from invaders. He marched around the island three times every day and hurled boulders at approaching enemy ships. Anyways the death of said taken produced molten lead similar to this… alternatively they could be the golden age of men … Greek mythology is weird with their alternative human origins
I think the hair on Vals head that becomes korgs mustache foreshadows the male kronan(not sure of spelling)
Still funny thors skin is almost on par with hulks who the hell did his tatoo???😂
I want to see Hercules after being introduced now we getting more mcu gods now we understand why gods didn’t want to stay and help humans but moon knight explained well and it crazy that mcu gods now are pissed with the earth heroes.
There's a shot right before Jane shows up at the end to help Thor when Gor is pushing the Necrosword into his chest that mirrors the scene from Endgame when Thanos is pushing Stormbreaker into Thors chest and is interrupted by Mjolnir hitting him out of nowhere, but this time instead of Thor's reaction being joyful that his friend was found worthy, he's saddened that Jane came anyway.
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. My only complaint is that there should have been more screen time with Gorr. We should have had at least 1 or 2 more scenes of Gorr hunting and killings gods. The film didn't convey how much of a threat Gorr could be. The film needed those extra scenes with the villain.
Agreed! Christian Bale was the best part of that movie. Def wish he had more time
Agreed I honestly don't understand how people are calling the movie bad
@@Little-Hollow- it's because it was way too cheesy and they definitely down played Gorr
@@Christian2496529 it’s more that it was a little disjointed early on, as well as the disappointment of the way they rushed through the Thor/Guardians team-up.
Some of the acting felt a little OTT in the early scenes, sure, but once Thor returned to New Asgard it really kicked in and was great from there (although Crowe has me very on the fence…)
The film felt a pretty rushed to me they tried to cram a lot in 2 hours still a decent film tho
There's a shot right before Jane shows up at the end to help Thor when Gor is pushing the Necrosword into his chest that mirrors the scene from Endgame when Thanos is pushing Stormbreaker into Thors chest and is interrupted by Mjolnir hitting him out of nowhere, but this time instead of Thor's reaction being joyful that his friend was found worthy, he's saddened that Jane came anyway.
Oh wow what a perfect catch! Well done!
I was waiting for someone else to catch that lol I realized right away
The look on Thor's face when he saw Jane and realized that hope for her ability to live was gone actually choked me up a little, and that is pretty rare for a movie or series. Kudos to Hemsworth who not only killed it throughout the movie, but really delivered using just a facial expression.
@@aliwantizu poor boy can't catch a break 😢 😪
@@jakefirebird994 that's what happens if you live until thousands of mortal years...
One thing that you missed: When Thor imbues the children with power, it visually represents the branches of Yggdrasil with Thor being the trunk. @31:54
Glad someone else caught that.
Loved that scene!
Reminded me of the Oden force.
Came down to the comments to point that one out too
Ik I thought I was the only one who thought that
Saaameee.. even in the theater I felt like I was the only one who got it.
It's cute that they casted Chris Hemsworth's daughter as Gorr's daughter who Thor adopts. I didn't notice that they did until I saw this video, they truly had great father & daughter chemistry in the ending.
It's one of the best parts of the movie
Totally coincidental
I love when Korg starts detailing the emotional state of the characters: Thor missing his hammer in Ragnorok and Valkyrie drinking because she missed her lover in Love and Thunder. The fact that Waititi voices Korg makes it feel like a fourth wall break explicitly telling the audience how they feel, which is hilarious to me.
And him explaining about his homosexuality
They can leave that gay stuff out. It’s just forced.
@@electriccat7278 yup. It's the hidden agenda in MCU
@@blinkenschnaag777 Imagine thinking you've *Found* A "Hidden Agenda" because of Literally NON-Hidden Stuff in Some Movies.
Do you Also believe that Global Elites are Satanic Pedos Who Sacrifice Children for a Relatively Unremarkable & Easily-Made Chemical,
and that they deliberately leave Trails & Clues just for you & your buddies to find & follow?!...
Phyla and moon dragon incoming lol
For the record…the Chris Hemsworth brother in the theatre play scenes is Luke not Liam. Thought you oughta know
I know, I was so disappointed 😂
Came here to say this!
@@laurenricketts8820 i commented that too 😂 I would have recognized Liam. I am not familiair with Luke so i dont easily recognize him
I love how the world tree is symbolized when Thor gives his powers to the children taken from Asgard and who are all aliens of the universe.
Where did you learn that info really serious I’d love to love that info too if someone pointed me in the right direction
@@catierose3647 the movie
That moment gave me goosebumps. Taika is a genius
The scene where thor holds off 2 bikers doing a split recalls specifically the commercial Van Damme did for Volvo doing a split on top of 2 semis. It even zooms outward in a similar way.
Yup, and Van Damme's classic kick
Not everyone is classically trained in understanding classic Easter eggs and references like you and I… just consider everyone who is a MCU fan was born after 2000 and grew up with Toby Maguire being the face of Marvel….
He also did the same thing in a coors advert holding himself between 2 trucks
The Van Damme splits is a trope from his films. The Volvo ad is referencing that, as is this film.
@@catierose3647 some of those "classic Easter eggs" are not possible to spot, because of cultural differences. VanDamme comercial might not even be broadcast in Europe, Asia or Africa ... some parts of american culture is not relevant outside the USA, especially things from before Internet era
The kid holding the stuffed animal bunny shooting lasers at the shadow monsters is a call back to Winter Soldier holding Rocket (while Thor always called Rabbit) in one hand and spinning in circles shooting at the bad guys!
Thor 4 is definitely my favorite film in Phase 4. Loved the cinematography, mythic theme, how Korg's narrations delivered why the movie is Love & Thunder.
No matter what the critics say it's my top film in MCU.
Even Mjolnir and Stormbreaker has some character development in this movie. 😍😍😍
They represent emotions of their masters
More than Finn did in star wars
Stormbreaker was jealous of mjolnir
@@rightfootupleftfootslide1511 that’s racist
@@rightfootupleftfootslide1511 get over it.
In the Asgard battle, Thor "went for the head" of that large shadow creature!
Nice callback and it shows Thor's growth and him becoming smarter as a warrior!
He developed more skills for sure. He regretted not doing that to Thanos in Infinity War
Thor ,and Jane's relationship might have actually been my favorite part of the movie surprisedly I thought it was very heartfelt.
It is. It's a perfect closure
Gorr's scars are super significant. I'm guessing they are a deleted scene in the movie to avoid a trigger warning on self harm, but his scars appear only in places where he was formerly tattooed. Down the lines on his head and arms. Clearly these wounds were self inflicted because he preferred the pain and scars to wearing the signs of his devotion to a false god. They are too intentionally placed to be the result of a battle.
There was a scene that was along those lines. I think Bale was implying it in interviews
I understand they deleted the scene of Gorr removing his tattoos because it was pretty gory, but I wish they’d have alluded to it. It would’ve fleshed out his motivation and intensity and clarified the story.
Sure bud.. sure 😅
@@intothefrayyo I'm sure referenceable evidence of this will be available shortly if it isn't already. I'll gladly find you some and post. This is what happened. Not a crazy theory
I just love how you “pretend” it is about Easter eggs and give your analysis. A profound and elaborated one! Congrats!
Haha I don't think he was pretending. If it were just about Easter eggs it would have only been maybe 15 minutes. And he begs acknowledgement for a prediction. Not too subtle. But it was a tad cringe
Another symbolic easter egg is the death of Gorr. When his daughter dies and he lives there's no water and she dies in the desert. When he dies and she lives, they're surrounded by water. A contrast of giving life so another can live.
Also, I thought Thor had two different eye colors from the one Rocket gave him. Wtf?
His eye gets fixed at some point, can't remember which film its in tho, maybe Endgame
@@Frost4Real but it was brown, he never got a blue one. Maybe we are meant to assume Rocket found a blue one while they were traveling together?
@@cwhitemusic i remember a scene where someone either changed its colour or completely healed it or something with magic or their powers. You'd have to google it, i cant remember
I hate dying in dessert. Usually its the cream pie but sometimes it's blueberry.
@@FlamingoKicker hahahaha
When Thor was pointing out the Gods, he said “There’s the God of carpenters.” They didn’t show the God, but I immediately said “Jesus is cannon”. Was it a nod to JC?
I caught that too...
I kind of wondered that too for a moment till I was distracted by other things. Forgot about that thought and line.
Pretty sure it was either bob the builder or Tim Allen The Toolman don’t bring make believe mythology in to this….
That was my thought but if they had shown The Jesus, that would have pissed a LOT of people off.
The whole 8+ year/3 year time difference is also significant and slightly meta because Thor the Dark World was released about 8 and a half years before Thor Love and Thunder. As you mention, deleted scenes were used in Avengers Endgame which was released three years ago.
So Portman's line may also be referencing the last time the two of them appeared in a movie together, and Hemsworth's line references the last time they actually filmed a movie together.
Jane was killed in the snap. Thor was not. So to Jane, it was only 3 years, but since Thor was alive, it was 8 to him. That's why that exchange happened...👌
@@tomorrowtodaylane Yes, that's a very strong and prevailing theory and was mentioned in this and other videos, and I'm not debating that's the most obvious literal in-universe interpretation to what is otherwise a joke about one character feeling the loss of a relationship more deeply and specifically than the other.
But this is why I said the joke could ALSO have significance by being a meta joke for the actors. If it is just a coincidence it's a hell of a coincidence.
You have a lot of nerve posting crazy theories like this. Some people have fragile minds and can't take it. You think math is impressive. Numbers are stupid. You meta think twice next time.
Lol sorry man, just messing with you. Just watched the video and saw your comment. See you at the end of the month man...
Not about but exactly 8 years, 7 months and 6 days
@@FireJach if you're counting from the day Thor the Dark World officially released (11/8/13) and the day of the Thor Love and Thunder premiere (6/22/22) that's 8 years, 7 months, 16 days. The Thor Love and Thunder release date also shifted around a bit so they may have tried to split the difference. Maybe instead of release dates they went with the last day the actors filmed together on Thor 2 and the first day they filmed together on Thor 4. That's harder to look up.
If you do the same release date to premiere date, Avengers Endgame was 4/26/19 which is 3 years, 1 month, 29 days so between 3 and 4 years.
As I said. possible coincidence and not a meta joke for the actors. But a lot of these Easter Eggs also could just be coincidences.
There are very interesting themes of faith vs nihilism in Love & Thunder as well. Jane and Gorr both face suffering that would break anyone’s heart. Jane, having a personal history/loving relationship with a god, turns to faith (Thor). Gorr, forsaken by his god, takes a more nihilistic path that recalls Nietzsche’s “God is dead”. Each of these empowers and drives them, but the plot doesn’t resolve until both powers are combined. In the end, both die yet each lives on - Jane in Valhalla and Gorr through Love
It is a fantastic movie! One scene missing in this breakdown is when Thor enchants Mjolnir to protect Jane in every circumstance. Thus, it seems that she is not only worthy but the love of Thor for her was marked as an enchantment in the hammer to give her protection. This scene was awesome and caught my attention!
Love the video, I have two and a half Easter Eggs.
1) The Wolf woman Thor was with on a wolf, was played by Chris Hemsworth’s wife Elsa Pataky
2) Ben Falcone, Melissa McCarthy’s Husband and frequent collaborator, played the Stage Director in the Asgardian play.
2 1/2) You mention the Raven Mail but Valkyrie says that some of her meetings could have been a Raven Mail, a play on the “This meeting could have be an email,” meme.
Love what you guys do! Thanks for all your hard work!
His wife? Nice family.
Hard to believe it's been almost 10 years since we last saw Jaimie as Sif (yes I know she was briefly in Loki but that was just in Loki's head lol). Understandably she was busy with Blindspot during that time period. Now that the show is over though, it's great to see her back in the MCU!
She was in Agents of Shield back when it was canon
Too bad they made a terrible joke while she’s dying in the snow cause that’s a great time to makes jokes. …. Story of this whole movie is one bad timing joke after another.
Almost every death scene in this movie was ruined by a joke.
This was the first MCU I genuinely didn't enjoy. Not one person in my theater was yelling or clapping.
I expected Eternals to fail, I didn't expect much from Black Widow, but I expected MUCH more from Thor.
I mean I don’t think the scene in Loki or agents of shield when it was cannon was any bigger then her scene in the snow ❄️
I don't understand what was up with her acting in that scene. She's a good actor, so it was definitely Taika's directing, but as with a lot else in this one...it didn't work.
One thing you missed, but wasn't really hidden, is that Thor imbued into Mjolnir the protection of Jane which is what it does in a way.
This was my favorite sean of the movie. Glad an other person noticed.
YES THIS!!!!
yess, it's the reason Jane is able to wield and use mjolnir. It's not bc she's worthy but it's because thor put his spell that mjolnir should protect Jane.
Yes and it seem Thor didn't mean it or know that it would become a spell. It seemed more like a moment where he chats to the hammer for the sake of it. But apparently it became like what Odin did back in THOR.
There is this scene where Thor talks to Mjöllnir to keep Jane safe, while she was sleeping - like the scene near the end when he empowered the kids. That might be the reason why Mjöllnir called out to Jane in the first place, because during that speech the sigil on Mjöllnir glowed the same way as it did as Odin spoke to the hammer. So it was Thors love for Jane which made her to Thor herself.
That is the exact reason, it wasn't subtle.
But then it’s weird because ultimately Mjolnit led to her death…
@@joshuastepter7097 well Mjolnir isn't omnipotent, but also while wielding him she was technically cured and safe
Duhhhhhhh.... lol. The fact people debate exposition dumps is hillarious...
@@joshuastepter7097 Stage 4 Cancer is not something she would of survived anyway.
Incidentally Sam Neil is in Event Horizon and Matt Damon is in Interstellar, both actors are in Thor: Love and Thunder
Great catch!
I really hoped that in the post-credit scene with jane and heimdall in valhalla that sif’s arm would make an appearance. It died very valiantly 😔
How is heimdal dead?? He got revived in end game did he not
@@JG-ql7ne no
@@Cj-vo4qv ? Explain
@@JG-ql7ne anyone thanos killed before the snap stayed dead
@@BlackJuly_Studios okay thanks
I want Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston to play their respective roles in the MCU as long as they can. I feel like they were born to play these roles.
I feel like I've read your comment in another comment section.
100
@@enoyna1001 they were born.
I wasn't expecting to be so emotional by the end of the movie, actually crying. A work friend has just started chemo for stage 4 cancer herself, and the recap of Thor and Jane's relationship made me think of my last relationship, so yeah, I was a wreck by the end.
Yea this movie is called “Love and Thunder” casual MCU fans who complain about everything really missed the mark of what the story it was trying to tell subliminally. I was holding my fiancés hand the entire movie and looking at her every time a situation in the movie paralleled ours. Thor has lived longer and lost much more than any character in the MCU and is now the comedic prince of said universe…. “What is grief if not Love persevering”
Ok
@@cloudnein8114 you'll understand one day. Maybe.
I seen some where that Jane got to Valhalla because she lost her fight to cancer not because she died after the fight with gor, they made a point of it earlier in the movie to point out sif wouldn't go because the fight was over. Jane getting there shows cancer patients that they are true warriors
I like this but as Norm once said, you don't really lose your fight with cancer. The cancer dies too. If anything, it is a draw.
Eternity actually is the entity of space and infinity is time. Eternity in the original comics is hinted as creating the infinity gems. In the movie, this is why only by unlocking the door to Eternity, you can be granted any wish. The loophole was that the gauntlet would let you grant that wish. This is exactly why Eternity's realm looked similar... but in place of Eternity, there is a temple in his place acting as a proxy for him/it.
I was hoping for beta ray bill, hopefully some day soon, but I think Jane being in Valhalla could mean those in there will be back like they've been in the comics.
wish i could thumps up this one like 100x
Maybe in the next film, Hercules kicks Thor's ass.... and in comes Beta Ray Bill
SAAAAAME man what the hell. If Beta had been alive, Jane dying of cancer wouldn't have happened. Valkyrie, Beta, and Thor would've been enough to kill Gorr.. Considering the fact that Beta is stronger than Thor.
I wanna see Hercules smashed by Thor and bleeding like shit all over the place
@@blinkenschnaag777 most likely not going to happen.
One Easter egg you missed was in the opening marvel studios logo they included a new scene with Ms. Marvel in her full suit, which is from the final episode of Ms. Marvel that hasn’t actually been aired yet.
I have noticed it too
Which letter do you remember ?
@@nickricci19 I think it was A
And moon knight first tv marvel characters appearing in the MCU for the first time other than Mayve and Fury of course
Daredevil is getting remade so his character doesn’t count
loved the breakdown, small edit that it was Luke Hemsworth not Liam who plays Thor in the play.
This Breakdown was mindblowing and thorough. You bring up things that I had no idea about, and things that I don't care about. There's so much info, that I have to watch this movie again!
I keep hoping for a deleted scene that would have made the movie not suck. The search continues.
The Maori God you pointed out - isn’t the Maori God, Tumatauenga (depicted here as Female) 99.9% certain she’s the god with a Tattoo on her chin. How do I know? I’m Maori. Tumatauenga is the GOD OF WAR in maori myths and legends, so maybe possibly this could be a nod to the theory that Aries may be in thors future given he is the GOD OF WAR ? Awesome breakdown though! Thank you 🙏
Yeah, that God he pointed out didn't look Maori. Looked something like Native American.
Agreed , and it was great to even hear Tumatauenga name mentioned being Māori was an awesome moment for me in the movie and Chris pronouncement was on point.
Beat me to it… although this might even be Papatuanuku as tumatauenga is her son
Me and a few of the bros were trying to figure who it could be. We landed on Hine Nui Te Po but Tumatauenga is certainly on the table if they have relaxed traditional gender depictions!
@@jedipsy yeah it did surprise me it was female, you could be right! But it seems like they’re breaking with canon to be more “inclusive”, as with korgs mum (Ragnarock), nope 🤫, now he has 2 dads? But probably more importantly it seems like the gods in omnipotent city are more self serving, malevolent gods, so Tūmatauenga kind of fits that mould better. Also… the fact that he (possibly she) is the god of war in this movie, and Hercules brother is Aries, the god of war, I think could be some foreshadowing for thor 5. But, who knows 🤷. Just a guess. The fact Taika got the ok from Kevin Feige to just add Tumatauenga, and Chris pronounced it perfectly, just blew my mind.
I mean, the Maori Gods, are Canon, in the MCU ✋🤯🤚
I think if they showed you some gods in the beginning to establish their power levels. So when we see their bodies it would make Gorr feel more like a threat, and reveal Gorr's prayers to the Gods went unanswered later in the movie would be better.
That would be nice, I think they are expecting you to just kind of reference power levels from gods we do know, Loki, Thor, the Egypthian ones from Moon Knight but yeah we should have seen some goods doing more I think that's valid. Gorr did kill like... a thousand "lesser" gods though which is crazy
At the Beginning rocket mentions Thor saying it would be like a holiday and a Holiday would be nice, which the next time we’ll see the guardians is their holiday special. In Omnipotent city, they mentioned the “carpenter god” which I think was a nod to Jesus and I’m pretty sure at one point when they were on Aeger, Thor calls Valkyrie Tessa
I was wondering about the Jesus reference when they mentioned it. And that one called Eternity, that's like referring to the One and Only God
I dont know who the god you pointed out was meant to be but it wasn't the Maori one listed in the credits. There was a very clear shot of a single goddess cheearing for Zeus during his entrance with moko kauae (chin tattoo), wearing a cloak, piupiu skirt, pounamu, etc., who obviously was the Maori goddess. Love the video!
Yeah he was so wrong
Yeah, bit disappointing he kind of assumed, there
Was gonna comment this exact thing until I seen your comment. I hope he apologises in the next video, either he got it wrong or someone behind the video did but that definitely ain’t Tūmatauenga the Maori god of war
Mm I dont know how he missed the 3 seperate shot's of the clearly Maori god lol.. Definitely just assumed and didn't do a quick google check! Allgood we can forgive him lol.
Should’ve watched it in .25x
Thor Ragnarok is my favorite MCU movie by a long mile. I remember watching it and thinking, 'That was so good and fresh and actually felt like a pre-x-men movies marvel comic, I hope Waititi makes 30 more marvel films!' But sadly, his second marvel movie is a pale imposter of the first. Everything that felt fresh in Ragnarok feels forced or hokey in Love and Thunder. Maybe it's the absence of Loki and Hulk and Goldblum- or how they took the good, small bits of Ragnarok (the play, Korg) and repurposed and stretched them so thin in the new installment. BUT- I don't blame the team for my disappointment, that's on me and my probably too high expectations. I still hope Waititi comes back for Thor 5- I just hope he makes that one weirder.
It's Loki, Thor Movies without Loki aren't the same.
And I mean Hiddleston's Loki!!!
I think watching this video made me like the film more. I was unsure of how silly at times it seemed but I had to admit now, there are so many things to think about from watching this video. I respect that they did something different rather than just doing Ragnorok 2. It feels unique and although, maybe not the tone I wanting for Gorr, it is exactly what it says on the tin, Love and Thunder. It's really a film about Love and I love that.
Quite LITERALLY ABOUT love
This is why our first stop after watching things is to come to this channel and get his take. I learn a lot about different universes that I wasn't as familiar with. I wish Ryan had videos on other types of shows, because I'm sure he would have a unique angle. Like we're watching the Mysterious Benedict Society, and I was thinking I bet he would have lots of insight on the color schemes, the camera angles, and potential symbolism that I can tell is there, but can't quite put into words. Sadly, there is no app for that lol.
I need to watch the film again, but Valkyrie might be my favorite character in it. I loved how she was the first on site when Gorr attacked New Asgard and then went off on the black berserkers despite still being in her pajamas; I was hoping she wouldn't be killed off since she's shown to actually be a worthy leader and protector of the Asgardians in the absence of Thor. I also like how Waititi and the writers made sure to depict her lack of attraction to Thor beginning in Ragnarok, opting instead to portray her as a genuinely good friend and wingwoman
I thought they didn’t use Valkyrie enough in the movie
This one actually solidified that she's gay and had a girlfriend who died in battle. "We're team Jane" ;)
Did Valkyrie die? I saw the movie and I genuinely don’t remember.
@@Malcolmdeeb no she got stabbed and retreated to New Asgard. She told Thor not to die when he set off to Eternity
@@thevileone91 solidified she's gay, yes, but she still admired the view when Thor got flicked too hard. To be fair, I'm not even gay and I'm still impressed, lol. Dude's built like a god.
Korg's partner name being Dwayne, like Dwayne The Rock made me laugh.. he should voice him if they do a 5th movie
I heard it as Blaine? *shrug*
Yeah, that felt very intentional. Especially because The Rock joined the DCEU.
Holy crap they gave us a rabbit/bunny plushy with Thor’s powers! And I’m more than 10 million % here for it
Missed a few. Off top of my head, the shadow planet was straight out of "Little Prince" a French short story. Also, the calming Space Dolphins, can only be a nod to Lobo's random love for space dolphins in DC Universe. Though I agree, I don't know why they chose that. There seemed to be some Voldermort and Harry Potter references, Thor riding the axe. Also Gorr having a pet snake, though he kills it. (Possibly to confirm he's not Voldermort, which they had to avoid because they look similar)
I just watched the movie.. for me personally it’s a nice THOR movie but not on the level of ragnarok..and jane’s story was amazing.. gorr should have more screen time. Still I like what the movie told.. story is nice and compact.. I would say 7/10. Ragnarok - 8.5/10
Yeah like i feel gorr wouldve came off more menacing if they at least showed us him killing a god out side of the opening scene. They couldve had thor arrive right as gorr killed yhat one giant ice looking god and had gor say 'not yet' at it wouldve applied a much better tone
Well said, my feelings exactly
I could not agree more, I was saying the same thing after the movie
I would 100% agree with this take if you changed the 8.5 to a 9. I was a HUGE fan of Ragnarok
@@spectranv yeah I agree. I liked this movie but ragnarok was something special
I enjoyed this film. Even if I hadn’t, I hope Marvel gives directors the freedom they gave on this, and Multiverse of Madness. Both films to me, feel like they were the creator’s vision. Thor 4 is silly and some humor feels forced. But when you are dealing with lost of parent, or a child, and something as devastating as cancer, you need it. As upset and hurt I felt, that ending was beautiful. I forgot how much Thor had lost. He needs a daughter as much as she needs a father.
100%
yeah, as cringe as Jane's couple of lines were, but it still made sense. she's dying ffs.
It really could’ve been much much better tho, its a mess really
One of THE most thematically appropriate songs was in the credits.
Rainbow In The Dark, by Dio.
I also thought of the Thor Corps when Thor gave the powers to the kids. Which I also liked this scene in the movie kind of taking the Asgardian kids back to more Viking roots of fighting as soon as you could.
I don't think this was mentioned: I felt they paid homage to Gladiator with the masks on the guards and the way they approached Thor the same way Russell Crowe was approached in the coliseum.
What did you think of the movie?
This is my favorite phase 4 movie!!
Disappointing and too ridiculous with the jokes.
I thought it was a solid 7/10. My favorite thor movie but over its it was just “fine.” A lot of fun but not super impactful
I'd rate it 5.5/10
@@robinvandijk6195
To be fair, that’s not a high bar to clear, but I did really enjoy it too. It’s on par with Ragnarok for being the best that Thor has to offer.
OK guess I'm a minority here-- Thor Love and Thunder is one of my FAVORITE MCU movies... Wow!!! 😍😳 And Gorr? Thor? Jane? Valkyrie? MATT DAMON. They were INCREDIBLE
It's one of my favourites too, I loved everything about it and can't see anything to complain about.
@@ShizuruNakatsu legit only complaint -- it wasn't LONGER 😫 Gorr was a menace!! 💀
I thought it was an amazing movie too!!
Way better than No Way Home so I’m a fan of the MCU again
It was incredible like slap your mama incredible
Im shocked you didnt mention Korg's mate is name Dwayne. An alien that is essentualy a living Rock....its a clear reference to Dwayne The Rock Johnson
Hahaha I said that to my partner while waiting for the end credits scene, and she didnt get it until I explained that... I was like THAT was the joke; that's why we laughed at it!
oh well. Atleast she had fun.
Or his dad who had the same mustache , maybe they will create “the most electrifying entertainer in sports history”;)
Hi Ryan. Just fyi, the Greek goddess you said was Artemis is actually Athena. She carries a spear and wears armor. Artemis carries bow & arrows.
Guys, I watched this whole video and no mention of Singularity? When Love appears over her 'dad', you see her reflection and it is that of Singularity. I was really hoping you'd dive into that more.
Probably one of your best breakdowns! This was an excellent movie and I can't wait to see it again knowing all these easter eggs
I loved this little meta-commentary:
"Half our soldiers are dead!" --> "Oh, half our soldiers are ALWAYS dead."
I'm so glad Christian Bale made it over to the MCU, he's such an incredible actor
For all 20 minutes of screen time such a waste of his talents😞
Waste of an actor
@@Abrakadabro666 facts we never saw him kill anything. Complete let down
@@JG-ql7ne He killed the golden god (whatever his name was) in the beginning.
@@ColorMeConfused29 🙄 he killed a bullshit god . I’m really mad how they wasted such a good story and character
@7:16, Jane's "poison" is also the color of Gold in connection to what you shared about the God's blood being a golden color.
When Thor was talking to his hammer in the flashbacks with Jane, telling it to protect Jane and the symbol on the hammer appears like it did with Odin
There are two guitar solos in November Rain -- while the one in front of the church is more visually memorable, the one used in the movie is the one at the end where Slash is on top of the piano.
Valkyrie makes the "Are you not entertained?" hands to Zeus, played by Russell Crowe, who starred in Gladiator.
Yeah I noticed that and was like why is that so familiar. It all comes together. Love it.
Yeah I noticed that and was like why is that so familiar. It all comes together. Love it.
You have outdone yourself this time!👏
I don’t think you discussed it but Thor foreshadows his enchantment with the kids during the romance recap of Jane and Thor. Thor is able to put an enchant on Mjolnir by tasking the hammer to always protect Jane. This calls back to Odin and his worthy enchantment and foreshadows Thors enchantment of Zeus’s bolt to the children.
There’s also a bit of a throw back to the comics bc Jane was able to wield Mjolnir in ways Thor never could (splitting the hammer into bits and using multiple projectile weapons) and it made him a bit jealous as well.
nice point, but you're misusing the word foreshadow here.
Foreshadowing: an indication of what is to come.
How does showing Thor enchanting Mjolnir (by accident or on purpose and the first time we see him doing this, ever) not foreshadow or indicate at some point in the future he will use it again, intentionally?
@@joshualogan84 because it is the exact same thing, not just an indication. It's like saying Hawkeye shot an arrow with his bow foreshadowing Kate being able to shoot an arrow with her bow. The recap scene showed he's able to put an enchantment on other people although not knowingly at first, and then he did the exact same thing again and consciously this time when he imbued the kids with his power.
@@zumabbar When Thor is depicted the first time, whispering to Mjolnir that it needs to protect Jane, he did it in a moment of love. He was emotionally speaking to Mjolnir and in his emotion, he unknowingly enchanted the hammer with HIS power. He demonstrated a power he did not know he possessed (yet). At the end of the film, he knowingly places an enchantment on the bolt and distributes the BOLT’s power to the children. The foreshadowing is to the audience, showing a character can do something without the character knowing it or even acknowledging it and then that power coming into play later in the film, in a time of need and with full control of that power on display. Again, the definition is 'an indication of what is to come.' This small, unintentional enchantment foreshadows the fact that Thor will intentionally display a stronger version of the enchant in the future. The first time, enchanting his power and then later, enchanting another's power, this little enchant made (unintentionally) out of love for Jane is then foreshadowing a larger, intentional enchantment made out of love for his people. That's foreshadowing.
@@joshualogan84 nice easter egg
There was one scene during the movie when Thor was giving his power to the children and in the scene looked like a golden tree, a neat parallel to the tree of life in norse mythology
I am Groot ⚡🌳
As a mythology nerd, I can't *wait* for this to be out on streaming so I can pause and play Where's Waldo with all the deities. Seeing the Maori goddess was such a cool nod for Taika's heritage!
That Quetzalcoatl was dope too
And the earlier Tūmatauenga name drop!!!
Same. I want to identify all the different gods shown!
Same !!!
To me, Thor’s speech to the kids seemed to be a reference to Bill Pullman’s in Independence Day!
The opening scene where Thor rides stormbreaker is not only an obvious Wizard of Oz reference but another one comes from when they first arrive to fight Gorr as the color fades away. So the tornado scene in reverse almost. Also towards the end, Thor was holding the frying pan really made me think of Tangled given that he and Rapunzel both have magical powers and long blonde hair.
I forgot to mention that in the opening battle when they play Guns N' Roses "Welcome to the Jungle" it reminded me of a similar scene in Megamind that also incorporated that song.
Thor’s emotions definitely run deep. His new suit even is a tribute to Tony and Steve with the blue and gold accompanied by red
14:06 I may be wrong, but I think it was “paradise city” that played when they head to New Asgard at this point in the movie.
I cracked up every single time the goats screamed! Loved it!
I really enjoyed this film, even if at points it isn’t the greatest film it was still an enjoyable time
Me after watching No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness . NWH was still dog shitte compared to the 3
Couple Easter Eggs you missed; when Korg speaks of the Gods likely at Omnipotence City he mentions Tūmatauenga which is the Māori God of War. Also the flashback scene of Thor and Jane in costume is likely a nod to Taika's film Eagle vs Shark.
The scene in New Asgard where Mjolnir floats by Jane's hospital bed is also taken from Aaron's Mighty Thor run. She's fighting the Mangog in that one, but it calls to her to do the heroic thing, even though picking it up one more time will kill her. It was a great callback
I really wish we got to see Falligar while he was still alive. Dude was so OP, having won a annual gladiatorial tournament between gods 500 years in a row.
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I love just as Thor loses Jane" Foster" he gets a new "Foster" daughter great Symmetry 👍
I actually think the biggest Development of the movie was love. That felt like the biggest new addition to the MCU because now thor has a daughter, it's gorr's biological daughter, and she not only wield stormbreaker ,but she has some of the power of eternity. That's a big fucking deal.
Yea this movie is called “Love and Thunder” casual MCU fans who complain about everything really missed the mark of what the story it was trying to tell subliminally. I was holding my fiancés hand the entire movie and looking at her every time a situation in the movie paralleled ours. Thor has lived longer and lost much more than any character in the MCU and is now the comedic prince of said universe…. “What is grief if not Love persevering”
Gonna totally shock people when we discover that Love is Meredith Quill one day. 😉
Gorr asked Thor to call back Storm Breaker forcing him to choose love or allow someone to die, in the end Gorr choose love which allowed his daughter to live, losing his own life
“Eternity” was also the one word spoken by Peter Quill after Ego tapped his forehead in GOTG2 and unlocked the power of a celestial. Peters eyes also then turned black and starry which is exactly what eternity‘s body looks like.
I'm excited to see what they do with Hercules. This also opens up the door for so many other potential stories from the comics, even Dark Avengers.
Great video! One thing I caught on to after I left the movie was Korg's new friend. HIs name was Dwayne . Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Hilarious!!! Thanks for bringing us another great video. Off to watch the ending explained! So glad to see Roy Kent join the MCU!
Or the rocks father who sported the exact mustache
Oh, Korg's husband you mean
@@blinkenschnaag777 Yes!!. My dumb self didn't pick up on that until my second viewing.
They were holding hands with lava and rocks around them!!
First viewing went by so fast, I missed a lot. Second time was great and I enjoyed the movie even more!
Thor's "Viking Long Boat" in Love and Thunder, is actually an ocean-going Māori waka - a waka hourua - complete with a deck whare decorated with carved kōura (crayfish) and Taika has kitted out the whare as an intergalactic tiki bar.
Def more viking influence with that design than waka.
@@MrJimmySnuff I'll take Taika's word for it as he said it in a NewZealand TV interview of all the kiwi things he through in..
I loved the nod to Thor and Rocket’s relationship calling him rabbit, and then when he enchanted the kids and the one scene where her rabbit is seen just like Rocket 😂 so cute
I love that they use Matt Damon as the Loki actor.... because of Dogma.
One other TINY little detail that I, as a mad lord of the rings fan, noticed was when Gorr initially summoned the shadow creatures or whatever they were called in New Asgard, you can hear the sword make a Nazgul screech sound. idk if anyone else noticed this
I was wondering if that was an acknowledgement of WETA Workshop’s involvement in this film.
Either this guy has picture perfect memory or has a screener and Marvel likes what he does.
Either way, I love your videos. awesome content 🤙🏽
Great breakdown as always. But u have a slight typo it’s Chris’s other brother Luke Hemsworth not Liam playing the theatre Thor
his segue into the hair loss ad is so clean every time. i never see it coming until he's already in it.
Lets all appreciate how adorable the dog is
The collision with the shadow planet was a Rick and Morty callback. That moment was so funny, it almost had me falling out of my chair🤣.
That whole fight sequence on that planet was a true feast for eyes. Easily the best scene of the movie.
Although there were some points the movie could improve, still the movie is amazing. Best mcu film since End Game imo.
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Thank you it is the best thing since endgame …. Don’t let the Spider-Man Stan’s hear you say that though….
This film's chemistry is the best... It actually made me root for them to be together wth 😭
Noticed that Ms Marvel was in the Marvel Studios logo also
and moonknight
Ok am I the only one who noticed that the opening title sequence had a clip of ms marvel from an episode that hasn’t cone out yet
One thing I noticed was in the scene where Thor gave the power to the kids the lightning went out to the kids and li looked like Yggdrasil the Norse tree of life.
When Thor is confessing his love to Jane on Aegin {the whole "You made me worthy scene"}, you can hear subtle musical cues that hearken back to the first Thor movie/
I did notice the love theme from there in that scene. I love that song in the first Thor movie.
They really released this at 4 am
Midday for us in the Uk
9ish P:M for us Aussies
@@Kamzavelli crazy 4 for me
fr 😂
7 am for us in the Midwest USA
Easter Egg: when the young girl was using a stuffed animal as a weapon with Thor’s power and spinning in a circle killing everything. It was just like when Bucky picks up Rocket in Infinity War on Wakanda and swings him in a circle while he shoots.
Also Groot and Rocket in Guardians of the Galaxy one.
I thought of "Brick" from the fight seen in anchor man, swinging around a hand grenade and screaming. Lol
But that may say more about me than it dose this movie. Lol
Just got out of the cinema earlier today and it struck me that the Phantom of the Opera shirt Valkyrie wears (which you pointed out) might also connect to Eternity. Both the Phantom and Eternity have a half-face mask.
Also, I thought that when Thor gives power to the young Asgardians, the golden flash looks like Yggdrasil the world tree, which as you mentioned, gets referenced quite a few other times in this movie.
The part where meek is taking notes, is literally the entire plot of the movie! had me in tears!