Design Engineer Tears Apart Cheapest Impact at Harbor Freight Bauer 20V 1/4 Impact Driver | Ep.12
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2021
- Brand: Bauer
Model Number: 1781C-B
Source: Harbor Freight Tools
I have no affiliation with Harbor Freight or the Bauer Brand.
#Harbor Freight
#Bauer
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Welcome to this Product Analysis / Review / Teardown / Disassembly from the perspective of a professional Product Development Engineer. I have 10 years of experience bringing complex products to market. My goal is to explain how, how well, and how efficiently the product is designed, manufactured, and executed.
I try to focus on these main areas:
Manufacturing Processes Used
Materials Used
Assembly Processes and Labor Needed
Overall Product Design and Execution
And I will try to rate and compare all of these based on:
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I started switching over to the Bauer platform recently. I've been happy so far, but still wondered what the longevity of them would be. I remember when harbor freight was nothing but cheap throwaway tools, so you always kinda wonder about the durability. Well I was working in my shop last night and accidentally knocked over an 8' ladder. Sitting on top of the ladder was my Bauer brushless driver with a 5ahr battery. It hit the concrete hard. So hard that the battery popped off and went another 15'. I figured it was shot. No way it survived. I inspected the battery and it looked fine. No cracks or anything. Inspected the driver and it was fine. Plugged the battery back in it and everything worked. Used it the rest of the night with no problems. Don't be dumb like me and leave tools up on top of ladders, but if you do knock your Bauer driver off an 8' ladder, it should survive. I couldn't ask for a better tool at this price. No one else comes close to the value.
they were cheap but they seem to have really been ramping it up hard over the last years. I don't know what they pay their RnD team but they are crushing it now. The tough choice is Bauer or Hercules... kind of wish they had interchangeables but I decided on Bauer because it has more tools and I want just one battery platform.
I have this exact model and I have no complaints, it does exactly what I need and I have asked more of it than it's designed for and it hasn't let me down yet. I have a friend that has the Herk and I honestly prefer the Bauer.
Great info, thanks for the real world feedback.
Very good tools for the price. In case you have a lemon warranty will replace it nqa.
I bought the Bauer brushless impact a few months ago and beat the hell out of it because it’s cheap. It has not failed me yet after driving at least 1000 screws.
Awesome feedback!
I am a satisfied Bauer consumer and I am very pleased with the performance.
I have the brushless one and I'm very happy with it.
Thanks for the feedback.
Nice review. Do you plan on reviewing the newest Bauer Brushless 20v 1/4 in hex impact drive that just came out?
Thanks for the review. I will probably be purchasing the Bauer impact and drill soon, although I haven't officially requested a permission slip yet-lol. As a long time Boltr/Ave fan I enjoy these types of reviews.
Thank so much for the kind words; glad you enjoyed it.
I've had this for 2 years. No issues. Great buy. I'll do it again
Thanks for the feedback.
Excellent work. Yea I subscribed. Learned more than I thought I would have. 👍
Excellent, and Thank you. That's my goal... share the Engineering and Product Development ideas I wish I had learned in college.
Yeah,my Bauer impact seems to get hot at the cone top before the,”squeal”. I went into the purchase wanting to support the underdog, & as such, feel my home work needs thus far are met, but I’m always noting performance issues should they change. I’m needing to put some grease in the collet area b/c of some squeals; any thoughts on the type I sh.Use?
In a light duty application like this, I like to start with white lithium spray or silicone spray lube to keep mess and dirt and dust collection low, then if those don't solve it try the traditional thicker greases like axle grease. Thanks for the comment!
Good job, very interesting and thorough. I'd like to see him investigate a 1/2 inch drive.
Could you read down a Hikoki/Metabo HPT impact, I notice it is ip56 rated would be interesting to hear your thoughts on IP ratings and the design of the impact
I have added it to my list; thanks a bunch for the suggestion!
Now that's a review. You know your stuff my friend.
Thanks for the kind words!
Bauer is a great product I think people nitpick too much, why don't they create their own Impact Driver since they seem to claim to know how to make it better.
Not gonna lie I bought the 64$ version with battery and charger i was expecting less because i had a Milwaukee Drill but for the money price against high price Drills it does the job.
Just curious, I watched your review of the Hyper-Tough impact driver and you noted that although it was labeled as a 20V tool, but the motor was an 18V motor. Did you notice what the motor was rated on the Bauer impact driver?
I did not, but I have since found out that it is a very common across multiple brands; although i'm sure this motor is still very under powered compared to the average 20V.
Those 3 LEDs is my favorite part for the Bauer lines no other vendor do this and I wish they would because with 3 LEDs you can't miss your target. It improves your situation awareness when doing work. Can you try to see if you can replace the anvil with a 1/2. Aliexpress got them for $4 and their 1/2 comes with a 1/4 built in.
Hilti does
Milwaukee does this, as does metabo hpt
I'm a HF/Baur addict. I wouldn't be if I didn't get good tools cheap.
Same.
I am Happy with the Grandpa. Chicago Electric corded impact. Had since stationed in the Philippines. Used for my Harley Davidson FXWG Shovelhead 1983.
That's awesome. Dad had a hydroglide, stationed in England, then Guam. Cheers soldier!
I just got into Bauer string trimmer as my first tool much more power than my b&d stuff 2.5 b&d 20v I must say that b&d's 10inch chain saw is a work horse 5 cords and counting the standard drill is cheap circ. Saw is ok 2 handed cross cut stinks light is ok blu tooth speaker takes a hit dropped off a 6 ft ladder still ticking. Bauer seems a much better product to me I can't wait to really get into this line. Oh by the way I bought a 139$ dollar ryobi 18 v plus one JUNK not very much better then b&d 6 inch lag screws made it hot lol😎
Good afternoon, I have a problem with my equipment, where is the engine going?
I'm very impressed by your review here. I'm strongly considering using BAUER or HERCULES power tools for my hotels. DEWALT and MILWAUKEE tend to get stolen as they're highly desirable by tradesmen and thieves looking for something to pawn. My question goes toward those two Harbor Freight tool lines against RYOBI. Can you please review the construction of RYOBI Tools? Would be interesting to see how its differnt from MILWAUKEE since they're both built by the same manufacturer.
From my contacts in construction and skilled labor, I have heard that Ryobi is close to the bottom of the barrel but iI have heard others that swear by them for the price... I will add a Ryobi Drill or impact to my list so we can see for ourselves... thanks for the suggestion! PS i do have one ryobi product review but it is just a bench blower: th-cam.com/video/hkXCKyvF-oI/w-d-xo.html
@@JJCCENG, Cost is always a principal business consideration. Thats why I'm looking at Hercules, Bauer, and Ryobi. TTI builds Ryobi, Rigid, Hart, and Milwaukee branded power tools. A head-to-head examination of the Ryobi Impact Driver versus Hercules would really help a lot of small businesses and DIYer's. At the end of the day,... is it the Car or the Driver? The Camera or the Photographer? The Marksman or the Rifle? Yes! Quality Counts! (....does it count as much as individual expertise?) Thanks for all you do.
They have just release a brushless 20V impact driver, and it should be on sale at the moment. Would you be able to do another tear down for that ? Thanks
Just got it today with that deal. I've yet to use it tho!
Thanks for the recommendation, I have added it to my list.
Thank you Sir
$35 today. For $49 u can get the brushless version of this driver that has incredible upgraded specs.
I should check that one out. Thanks for the update!
Im waiting for the brushless hercules line of drills
I'd love a teardown of the brushless herc and bauer, they're both new generation and I'd like to see I'd they made improvements to other components.
Great review sir, mite have to get one..so guessing you'd rate it 8 out of ten, ten being the best..??
My old nicad Dewalt 18v is dying...😢
That's a fair assessment. My guess is the battery battery longevity is where the low price point will show up.
i watched your video on the Hercules impact driver last night and now this one. On other comments you seem to think Herc is better yet with the Herc you seemed to be very concerned about the lack of debris protection for the brushes. However the Herc had better coating on the PBC where the Bauer seemed to have no significate protection. Would you be able to elaborate more on the differences between the 2 drivers to explain why one appears to be better than the other. IMO seems like we want parts of both to make a better one, LOL
All that you said is a very good summary of what I think of the 2 different drivers. My goal was to point out the pros and cons and let the users decide which one stacks up the best. If I were going to buy one, it would definitely be the Hercules.. the overall design quality looks superior to my eyes... plus circuit boards are the number one failure component of most products so I will take a well protected PCB over a debris screen any day. Thanks for the question.
@@JJCCENG this is exactly the response I was looking for. Please do more videos on any product breakdown, it feeds my inner nerd 🤓
@@badmexicancinema8100 Kindred spirits... You got it man!
Good tool for the price.
Damnit, I wanted to know the anvil dimensions so I could swap the anvils around with my old Ridgid impact.
I thinking getting Bauer tool set I home owner don't use it every day have some black decker Ryobi tool sets
I know you speak about every single component but, I would like it if you at the end give your overall impression or opinion, is it good or not, I'm a bauer user and I feel that for the price you're getting a really good tool, now if you are a pro user then I don't know how well is going to work but as a diy guy to me is really good even with the 1.5 amps battery, thanks
That is a really good idea... I will try and incorporate that in the future. Thanks for the suggestion!
Nice, do the Milwaukee 18V framing nailer next!
Thanks for the suggestion. Adding it to the list.
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I'd love to see the hercules or bauer brushless teardown
I did do One of those thanks for the suggestion. th-cam.com/video/S7HLAA1b4aM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=D4Ep42MMMppZKi_C
What is the fall rating on Hercules 20v 1/4 hex impact drill
Sorry but I did not see that called out anywhere.
How much does a Harper tough impact driver cost
They are a little cheaper at $50 with battery if memory serves. Thanks for the question.
Also keep in mind for a little bit more you can buy a 2 year warranty and still not be out much money.
The lights r the first to break
I’m not an Engineer. I’m a product user/consumer. Engineers try to design products that will last forever and never fail. The problem is that these products they design will be to expensive for the consumer to afford. I’ve never had any of my cordless tools fail. I have just had battery failures. You need buy to best battery system and not worry about cordless tool quality. The tools can be replaced cheaply, if they ever do fail. PS….I never buy the extended warranty.
If you take it apart and make sure its properly greased when its new, will add to its life.
Great advice for most tools you want to last.
Trigger problems???
Bauer makes a 3/8 impact wrench that is very similar tot his model. Can you do a tear down/comparison with this model? I suspect they both share a lot of components.
I will add it to my list. Thanks for the suggestion!
I vote yes on this as well
When he says he hasn’t seen the three lights on an impact
Dewalt (one of the biggest brands): what?
Lmao
My 10 year old dewalt 12v max drills have the led ring and it’s definitely better than the single led that most drills have. Very good design.
I wonder how they are mounted inside, maybe Bauer completely knocked off Dewalt's design.
A step down from Hercules?
Wow, so you don't even get to use it once?
lol, I suppose so.
Huh so why has my buddy been using his for over an year?
@@msk3905 I mean if he's had good luck with his, good for him. I had a hercules cordless ratchet and that thing didn't last 2 weeks.
A drills not a drill, unless it can be used as a hammer.
I buy buy harbor freight knowing their not as good as what is at home depot lows but im shour they last tell obsolete and i dont use them every day all day but their just afordable where im not making a huge investment
If you are looking for hard never let u down tools spend the money buy name brand for 3x the money if your yousing around home hear and their not every day the harbor freight china is awsome
I agree, they are a good deal for weekenders
As soon as they are used a full day and they get a little warm they just blow them self up
Thanks for the real world feedback!
HF power tools seem shady
Or the front cone gets so hot that the lights blow out
@@brettheneghan724 I would have to agree, but they seem to be trying to improve their quality lately.
@@rogercarr4060 Makes sense... first light circuit board I've seen mounted directly to the metal gearbox.
What do you want for 50 bucks?
Fair enough, but for almost the same money you could have a Hercules from Harbor freight, that is much better made imo. Thanks for the comment.
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@@JJCCENG hercules 3/4 IMPACT WRENCH $49.99....Bauer 3/4 impact $79.99. You say the Herc is better. So I should get the Herc?
Thank you for your guidance.
@@johnflock7233 Yes, personally I would get the Hercules. Thanks for the question.
Common its made from cheap plastic you can tell
Bauer is NOT the most powerful
Bauer is NOT the cheapest
Bauer IS the best value
I think there's a solid case for that, thanks for the comment
You give no summation/conclusion to your observations. Pretty dull, and flat. You need to provide the viewing audience some sense as to where this product ranks compared to others. Dollar for dollar, materials, How it might perform over time, etc.
Thanks for the constructive criticism.
Looks as bad as the Hercules
Im happy to say that I'm pleased with my Bauer impacts they do the job and nowhere as high as DeWalt or Milwaukee
Thanks for the real world feedback!
Use mine every day on the jobsite. No complaints
Jobsite feedback is the best feedback. thanks.