I have this specific cpu but I have the better 2696 v3 which can boost up to 3.8 ghz and I was able to mod the motherboard to make it run 3.5 ghz base speed and 3.8ghz on all cores under full load with full 8 hour stability
@@davefroman4700 bro how much good is your cpu ? I'm thinking about buying that cpu for RTX 3080. I have 1080p monitor but maybe I can go above like 1440p.
+Ido Tanne "Pro builder" made a noob mistake on applying thermal paste. not to mention his "overclocking" is something that an elementary schooler could do.. Just a kid with overpriced toys in my opinion.. no real knowledge or skill in here.
+n00b247 Reminds me of my good old 450 MHz Pentium II I had, daaaamn the good old days...nowadays even my fucking smartphone can outperform a cpu like that
I'm still using this chip in late 2019! There's a bug in these v3 chips where as you can run the turbo full time all the time on every core with a multiplier of x36! You simply need to remove the CPU microcode from the motherboard BIOS. With a bus of 103mhz, I'm running 3.7Ghz on all 18 cores. Obviously under 100% load though, it will drop speed. With all 36 threads at 100% and using Prime95 the multi is 24-25. Running at 1/2 of threads (18), the multi is 28-29. Running normally usage (AKA not some synthetic heat producer test), the cores all stay at 36 multi. It's very fast for an older processor that can be found pretty reasonable now.
Which motherboard are you using I'm very interested in this cpu's i want to buy a xeon e5 2660 v3 but i don't know which motherboard would be good for doing overclock and turbo unlock :D
You can even undervolt this cpu to squeeze more juice out of it. I can get 5700pt in Cinebench R20 with a -0.090v undervolt on the core and -0.050v on the cache. Running a non-AVX load like Cinebench R15, it hits 3.05GHZ when all 18 cores are stressed. After the turbo hack, what's limiting these are really their TDPs.
Thanks for posting this. I was wondering if the turbo unlock would play nicely with the 103mhz boost going to put an e5-2690 with the x99 f8 chinese board
I wonder if it really. A Ryzen 5 5500 is only $80 brand new yea only 6 cores but each core is I’d say comfortably a lot more than 3x the performance. Oh and it comes with a box cooler that’s actually pretty good. And you can always pickup a 5900x-5950x later on you have an upgrade pathway. Literally ignoring the power savings and I’m pretty sure it supports ECC memory. Reselling would be easier and your ram is ddr4 and you get gen 3 nvme.
***** I do use H.264 and its features. The bitrate is high intentionally; TH-cam has support for Enterprise-level uploads (20 Mbps - 50 Mbps) and I take advantage of that on my channel.
Ok i'm going for it... AMD FX-4100... "Fake" quadcore -_-.. Yes it hurts.. I really understand.. Even my athlon before.. Or your i3 will punch this sucker in half.. O wait it allready is
@@twizz420 yup and i still use my i7 5820k to game on 12 cores overclocked to 5ghz. still no bottlenecks and way smoother gaming experience. no judder or microstutter. 32 gb of quad channel ripjaws dont hurt either.
Hard to believe these were $4500 back in the day when they were released. I just purchased 2 of these CPUs for a home server just to play around on for the whopping cost of $85 EACH! Nothing like a 98% reduction in cost!
+tony052803 Probably in 2-3 years to be honest. Sony just came out with a phone that has 4 cores. We are moving amazingly when it comes to technology. Btw, you should check out distributed computing projects and find some that you like. I personally participate on World Community Grid!! Let me know if you need help wit this.
+Mike Hines Also, you should really start contributing to distributed computing projects! Check them out and see how you can make technology improve even faster!
+Ernie Sanz Passbook from RIM had 4 cores a couple of years ago. 18 core CPUs will probably be around in 10 to 15 years for PCs. We are already at 8 core from AMD.
EposVox ssd is still slow, so a ramdisk would be better in the case of "Bottlenecks" but not in a real world scenario of course is just to see the speed.
It should be much worse. Most games don't optimise more than 2-4 cores and this chip has a lower per-core clock speed. On the other hand, of the game scales well with number of cores, you be flyin son
Rule907 Most games aren't very multithreaded and if you look closely on the cinebench single core test he did the 4790k won by close to 20% so unless you are playing a very CPU intensive game, that uses a ton of cores, the Xeon would probably preform worse. Still on most games the difference would be unnoticeable I'd imagine.
***** you need to remember that its also at heaps lower clockspeed than the consumer 4790k.. A cpu the remains as the highest factory single threaded performance of all common CPU's. So yes, you have a heap more cores, but does that actually make up for being at less than 2/3rds the frequency? I think thats worth a short video honestly...
Kazu depending on software your GPU might actually more important. Also, if you are reading large video files (for example RAW video) from a slow SSD that can also be THE bottleneck so it's tough to build a system where you can really use the performance of such an insanely powerful CPU
The SSD can be a bottleneck, if you CPU is capable of writing more data than you SSD can. It would slow down the CPU because the SSD could not handle more. That's what he meant.
S666G666 xeon chips are locked so you cannot do a traditional multiplier overclock and I believe the ECC RAM would have issues as it is not very overclock friendly. xmp and manual base overclock deal with the bus and affect everything, ECC would possibly throw errors and/or result in the system not booting
Jacob R With newer chips you can separately overclock the CPU strap, without changing the base clock (I think with Xeon chips as well). So changing the CPU strap will not overclock the ECC RAM.
I come from the future, and wanted to run some good ol' games. Can I run Minesweeper on a 48 core Intel Sigma M9 5.35 GHz, with a NVIDIA GeForce Alkaline 305A-Q 3.63 GHz 128 GB VRAM and 1 TB of DDR6 RAM?
Bought a Intel Sigma AL8 with 11.6 GHz with 64 cores, and the GPU is now replaced with a AMD Radeon HHD 95400-WUAQ 148 GB and 9.53 GHz. I believe that's enough for a weak PC in the year 2028.
+VortexumGamer Well you should just wait until the year 2029 when the intel i69 comes out. It has about 5 billion cores. and when minesweeper 2 comes out. But hopefully hl3 will be released.
I'm glad u did this, 5 years ago u bought a 5820k and now my rendering in cad is killing me because how slow the 6 cores is now. I'm looking at buying a 2698 v3 and a bunch of ram! 🙏🏿
The Pancakeanator But in certain applications, one board is going to be more preferable over the other (e.g. video editing, audio production, gaming, etc.) and it would be nice to see a comparison done so that people can know which board they're probably going to want to buy so they don't spend more than they really need.
Mr Fuzz Man It would literally be a video looking at spec sheets, ie motherboard a is better for audio production because it has x feature and for the most part, other than reliability and overclocking/bios the motherboard does not matter. Need video editing? strong cpu, audio production? high end sound card, gaming? high end dedicated gpu
vidm96 A lot they do get free, but often with strings attached. Sometimes they have to send it back. Also Linus and other reviews ask for equipment or a company will send them equipment to "review".
vidm96 I'm guessing this was a "hey show how amazing are product is and we will send you a couple of these for free". Either that or maybe he just has a good working relationship with them and he just asked and they went "ok".
Just got two of these for USD$50 each in 2023 for a Linux workstation. Have to love how the Chinese still make x99 motherboards with new stuff like NVME etc thrown in.
When AMD releases exciting new products we're on them. We even borrowed an R9 295X2 when that launched and they didn't send us one. The issue is that AMD hasn't really released a new enthusiast grade CPU in years. How am I supposed to get excited about making a video about a 3-4 year old product? When AMD releases Zen and it kicks ass (let's hope) we will cover it.
MegaBoomeranger Because AMD hasn't released anything good, CPU wise, in years. That's also why Intel doesn't feel the need to make better chips than just 5 to 10% better than the previous gen.
MegaBoomeranger LOL.... I think he is not biased. He actually does reviews on the best product, which is Intel atm. I can see you are not bias, but pissed probably because you are running AMD... RIGHT!
Hi,-It's good to know the "regular" RAM will work with a Xeon E5 on a consumer board. I've just managed to get a Xeon E5-2697 v3 2nd hand!-The brand new price is just too much!-So, the E5-2697 v3 isn't that far off the one you tested and will be great on an X99 OC Formula or SOC Champion or any other X99 motherboard. Thanks for the video, it's very helpful
MrBait09 Actually I think could be possible but I've never saw anyone do it. Dual CPU systems actually do share all the PCI lanes. I took the risk of saying something stupid I know XD
I still sometimes boot up my upgraded PC XT with a stacked RAM configuration to get it up to 512K of RAM, running 4.7 Mhz clock speed. Not a speed demon, but it still does what it was made for well.
I recently bought a couple 1U servers with 2x14core E5-26xx and 128GB and 256GB RAM for less than $1K each. I needed some serious compute power for circuit modeling via optimization. There are some seriously good deals out there on older technology. Far better bang/buck for old servers.
What do you mean exactly I have couple systems myself I’m trying to put to the test one has dual e5 14 core, the other 18 core and I have titan xp but haven’t figured out what to test with yet and couple more systems as well
@@jong-yk3gk That depends on what you want to use your systems for. Passmark software's performance tests and MemTest86 have some benchmarks which might be interesting to you perhaps. I think that these older systems are mostly good for compute-intensive tasks which have a lot of arithmetic operations per memory access and are used for short bursts of hard computing such as engineering software or math-heavy operations and computations - e.g. optimization and/or simulation or perhaps some games? For 24-7 day after day heavy computation, you're likely better off with newer systems due to their greater power efficiency - and that depends on your electricity rates. I would say that if you just want a big file server that's not heavily loaded with accesses, then get yourself an newer, single socket machine with ECC RAM, at least 32GB RAM (64GB likely better) and loads of slots for 3.5" drives. Ideally, you want hot-swap tool-less slots that let you slide the drives in and out. If you get an older machine for this, I recommend going with a single CPU socket to save energy. Best
Learning about servers and followed your server vs desktop CPUs video, to your Intel vs Xeon video, and finally to this. I think this is the best one yet. I love how excited and happy you are! And getting to see your process and reasoning as you go. :D Plus, your keyboard looks like a Star Trek input panel. :D
Yea Linus, I built my first Intel Computer since the dual proc 1ghz pent 3 Era. I bought a Xeon e5-2650 for 20$ on ebay, and an Intel dx79ti motherboard for 200$. Which outperformed any of my Previous AMD builds, By a Very large margin. Xeons are amazingly versatile and with the option for Registered ram, it's amazing.
Absolutely not, the G3258 is a great CPU, id recommend overclocking it though, thats what I did. Plus I cooled it with Corsair Hydro H80i. Id have to recommend aftermarket cooling though if overclocking,
***** Depends on how you intend to use it. If you want to run the latest games you may run into trouble as some games actually check for more than 2 cores. Also the latest AAA games aren't going to let you run at high res with all the graphic options enabled with that processor even married to a Titan, but the G3258 will work fine at lower resolutions if you overclock it. I've been using one for the past year and played Borderlands 2 and Borderlands the Pre-Sequel with no issues. I do plan to upgrade later this year once desktop Broadwell and Skylake processors are out and the pricing settles, but that's as much future proofing as something useful today.
Intel in 2014: 18 cores for 5000$ is top value and wont be beat AMD in 2021: *Laughs in 64 cores 128 threads Threadrippers* Edit: Oh now I know why they are called threadrippers
@@RappinAcoustic yes an then apply the turbo unlock mod running both cpus at max turbo 3.7ghz all cores. Thats 36 cores an 72 threads for way less than a ripper cpu. Hence why i have two 2699V3 xeons.
xXDahChubChubXx Lol it still is half as fast as the AMD FX-9590 and has less singlecore performance. T_T Besides the fact that you are comparing a consumer chip to a server chip, which actually use about the same amount of power, you also don't seem to know what TDP means. With the TDP the manufacturers specify the maximum heat output in Watts at which the CPUs can safely operate for a long period of time. The FX 9590 has such a high TDP, because they are specially selected chips with extremely high stability thus beeing able to operate safely at way higher loads than 'bad silicon' FX 8350s for example.
Razor Blade Wasen't comparing speeds and yeah in gaming and in single core the AMD would probably win but i don't care, i was comparing how much more grunt it has and how much more stuff is in it compared to the AMD chip and comparing the TDP
xXDahChubChubXx With the speed I just wanted to say that they are sacrificing on something to achieve this. Overall both chips have around the same processing power, but it is used in different ways. It's like you got a 600HP engine and you can either use it with a low gear ratio to move more load with less speed or use a high gear ratio to move less load with more speed.
I'm going to build a rendering system with the following specs: Intel Xeon Phi 7290F 128GB DDR4 Memory Some 1.6 Kilowatt Poer Supply And Thats all I decided.
***** It's low power for stability and longevity. By far and large the killer of CPUs is heat and increasing voltage stresses the silicon on a molecular level which thus increases heat as you overclock. So having highly efficient CPUs work less and spread it across many cores, you allow for example a 10 core 2.1Ghz processor to work just as well as a 4 Core 4Ghz processor and still be better at software optimised for many threads. Especially take into consideration that your gaming PC isn't truly at 80-100% load as frequently as a workstation or server which can have hundreds or thousands of users on it on a 12 or even 24 hour basis. EDIT: Consider a networking server in an office of 30 people. You could have 30 computers at $800 each, or 2 computers at $5,000 each that everyone connects to via cloud computing.
Watching this after the X series has been announced. And I can't stop thinking how in 2 years the performance of fairly (?) high end server chip has made it's way into a consumer platform. *WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!*
once again linus laughs in the face of those that are relieved to have build their system without breaking anything and tries to overclock a CPU worth the cost of a used car.
***** Yeah, I see what you are saying but he didn't really put the CPU in any risk at all. In the extremely unlikely event that all safety features fail, that means that the CPU was defective anyways.
In 20 years, specs will be so good, people won't even pay attention to it. Who cares if one spec is twice as good as another if it only costs as much as a pack of gum?
Sengial The possibilities of a Xeon when it comes to overclocking are limited, as Linus showed us in this video. A 5% overclock using watercooling evidently doesn't yield a stable setup, any higher than 10% would mean it can't even boot at all. Can't wait for my phone to run Crysis though.
GOPACKERSJT That's cool, but I was hinting more towards an x86-based phone that could natively run the original Crysis. Also, Can It Run Crysis was a running gag for years following its release :D
9 years later we have 128 core insanely fast cpu. Intel has a 256 core cpu out and is gonna make a 512core cpu within the next year. And it’s pretty common to have 12-16 core for even non professionals with the bare minimum being 6 and mid tier being 8. Oh and all hyper threaded with tons of cache and pcie lans ofc. 12 full fat cores is now amds mainline offering. On the downside budget gaming is dead but the rise of the igpu means you don’t need it and we have insanely fast $500-600 beasts that can run modern new AAA games at 60fps 1080p comfortably and also are almost as powerful as a normal desktop that’s about 8 times the size. Small enough to mount to the back of a monitor.
Kristian Grønås they can clock a 5960x at 4.5 on a h110i gtx. The cooler is not overwhelmed. It transfer issue. So those 18 core could run on those cooler at like 4ghz + Realise that a 120mm watercooler can cool a 600w gpu
I was in pain while you were pronnouncing "cache" so many times whith the contacts side of the processor near to your mouth and in its direction T_T You could have accidentally spit on it omg be careful xD
+Dustin Christensen it's not about turned off CPUs being sensitive to liquid per se, but about that when the "liquid" is cleaned/evaporated/sublimated, there will probably be solid waste that is extremely difficult to detect (thus to remove), and it remains in the contacts being potentialy dangerous for the CPU in multiple ways. CPUs are extremely delicate, they might get relatively very dirty, clean them carefully and perfectly work like nothing happened. They can take some microscopic liquid drops/dust particles and cause a fatal short circuit in the next power on.
+Dustin Christensen we're not talking about a Celeron dude... I'm not even saying you're wrong but let's leave it in "I wouldn't take the risk with an $4000 CPU". Linus would? seems so, but I only said that I was suffering while watching it, not that he has to suffer too.
+Benito Llan Matos Liquid can't sublimate. Sublimation is when a solid turns to a gaseous state, skipping liquid all together. So, by definition, liquid can't sublimate.
***** Overclocking using a multiplier only effects the cpu. Overclocking the base clock (100-105) effects everything you use, such as your pci-e slots, usb ports, LAN, ram, SSD/HDD and so on. You're messing with a lot of things for not much gain.
My 0x1E this doesnt make sense to me. does OCing the base clock directly affect GPU, ethernet, USB, and SSD speeds? this definitely doesn't seem like the case for me.
BattousaiHBr It effects the link speed, not the actual clock speed of your GPU. You're overclocking the bus speed. USBs are designed to work with a base clock of 100Mhz. Going higher can cause data corruption for the USB and SSD/HDD because you're taking them out of their operational frequency. You're not overclocking your USB to stay in-line with the extra speed of the BCLK. For instance, my sound card (Asus essence 7.1) will not allow the computer to boot if the BCLK is above 101 BCLK. Overclocking using the BCLK is just a bad idea no matter how you look at it.
And in 2021 x99 xeon became one of the most popular gaming CPUs :D
I have a 2680 V4 14c/28thread on the way. It will be a massive upgrade from the i5 3470 I built new....
I have this specific cpu but I have the better 2696 v3 which can boost up to 3.8 ghz and I was able to mod the motherboard to make it run 3.5 ghz base speed and 3.8ghz on all cores under full load with full 8 hour stability
Just built a 2695 v4 with 64gb ram, 1tb ssd for under £350!
These cpus are amazing for the price right now!
@@davefroman4700 bro how much good is your cpu ? I'm thinking about buying that cpu for RTX 3080. I have 1080p monitor but maybe I can go above like 1440p.
@@GodSlayerJoker You won't be able to do 1440 with a 1080 monitor.
You know your a pro PC builder when you have thermal paste in your kitchen cabinet
xD
+Ido Tanne yet he apply the thermal past like a noob and not spreading it all over it.
+stylos951 You're supposed to spread it all over? Applying too much is worse isn't it?
+Ido Tanne "Pro builder" made a noob mistake on applying thermal paste.
not to mention his "overclocking" is something that an elementary schooler could do..
Just a kid with overpriced toys in my opinion.. no real knowledge or skill in here.
+Ido Tanne I do also have thermal paste in my bathroom, should I be worried?
Ha.
I used to have HARD DRIVE that WAS 16MB!!!
1MB of RAM was TOP OF THE LINE.
+n00b247 Reminds me of my good old 450 MHz Pentium II I had, daaaamn the good old days...nowadays even my fucking smartphone can outperform a cpu like that
+TheWuerstchenwasser no dude! Your smart phone is a lot faster than your good old day computer.
+n00b247
HA!
Now if you have 2TB hard drive do you have 128 or 256GB RAM?
+TheWuerstchenwasser my note 3 scores twice as much on the geek benchmark than my dual core 2.1 pentium 4 powered laptop. jusy sayin'
+n00b247 IBM used to sell HDDs the size of an industrial refrigerator w/ capacity of 5 MB.
I'm still using this chip in late 2019! There's a bug in these v3 chips where as you can run the turbo full time all the time on every core with a multiplier of x36! You simply need to remove the CPU microcode from the motherboard BIOS. With a bus of 103mhz, I'm running 3.7Ghz on all 18 cores. Obviously under 100% load though, it will drop speed. With all 36 threads at 100% and using Prime95 the multi is 24-25. Running at 1/2 of threads (18), the multi is 28-29. Running normally usage (AKA not some synthetic heat producer test), the cores all stay at 36 multi. It's very fast for an older processor that can be found pretty reasonable now.
Which motherboard are you using
I'm very interested in this cpu's i want to buy a xeon e5 2660 v3 but i don't know which motherboard would be good for doing overclock and turbo unlock :D
@@rampi7082 Using an ASRock X99 Extreme 6, Xeon 2699v3, 128GB ECC RAM
Thinking about finding a cheap one for my sabertooth x99 lol
You can even undervolt this cpu to squeeze more juice out of it. I can get 5700pt in Cinebench R20 with a -0.090v undervolt on the core and -0.050v on the cache. Running a non-AVX load like Cinebench R15, it hits 3.05GHZ when all 18 cores are stressed. After the turbo hack, what's limiting these are really their TDPs.
Thanks for posting this. I was wondering if the turbo unlock would play nicely with the 103mhz boost going to put an e5-2690 with the x99 f8 chinese board
Lets see you render a 4K video!
Are you making cubing videos anymore? I really miss them!
MeMyselfAndPi This. Has to be 144 fps video, too.
MeMyselfAndPi yes 4k is what we want! linus do 4k render test
InitialHat
What's the point, we can't see 4K on TH-cam.
Galaxy Guardian TH-cam has had 4k play back for a couple of months now.
Was able to get this renewed from Amazon at 50$...8 years later
about to overclock to 2.8Ghz..
Will be a great video editing machine
Thanks Linus
I wonder if it really. A Ryzen 5 5500 is only $80 brand new yea only 6 cores but each core is I’d say comfortably a lot more than 3x the performance. Oh and it comes with a box cooler that’s actually pretty good.
And you can always pickup a 5900x-5950x later on you have an upgrade pathway. Literally ignoring the power savings and I’m pretty sure it supports ECC memory. Reselling would be easier and your ram is ddr4 and you get gen 3 nvme.
So, how fast will this render a 1-hour 1080p60 first-person shooter gaming video at 20-25 variable Mbps?
You watch LinusTechTips too!
*Has Near 200,000 subs*
*Doesn't have a personal profile pic*
XD
davidangel64 Hi there X, thought i remembered the channel name ;)
davidangel64 So high bitrate? Use more H264 features and shrink it to 6 MBPS.
***** I do use H.264 and its features. The bitrate is high intentionally; TH-cam has support for Enterprise-level uploads (20 Mbps - 50 Mbps) and I take advantage of that on my channel.
this looked so special back in the day until threadripper came
and I'm just sitting here next to my i3 and cooling it with my tears
Adam Farkas athlon 64 x2 4200+ :'(
Pentium 4 :, (
Core 2 Duo 1.3 GHz :(
Adam Farkas lol, race to the bottom. a10-7850k
Ok i'm going for it...
AMD FX-4100... "Fake" quadcore -_-.. Yes it hurts.. I really understand.. Even my athlon before.. Or your i3 will punch this sucker in half.. O wait it allready is
watching this in 2019 with threadripper is kind of funny
64 cores
Not that funny when the cost of this is now a quarter of the price for 60% of the performance
How did they fit 18 cores in this?
AMD: "Hold my beer"
Amd did that with 7nm this is 22nm. 3x times bigger node and about 9x less space. I think that's to this day still quite impressive.
How much was it 5 years ago
@@w04h it runs at 2.3ghz lmao
@@twizz420 yup and i still use my i7 5820k to game on 12 cores overclocked to 5ghz. still no bottlenecks and way smoother gaming experience. no judder or microstutter. 32 gb of quad channel ripjaws dont hurt either.
@@rextrowbridge8386 whats the voltage?
Just got myself a 2698v3 xeon unlocked it's turbo boost on all core and coupled with an undervolt this thing's a beast!
Still cheaper than the Apple Watch Edition
D:
Alonsy
My house is cheaper than apple watch :(
The Tech wtf so true.
My paper bag was cheaper than that Apple watch shit -.-
That CPU costs like 15 of my computers.
10 of mine
4 of mine
about 0.1 of me
+TheKazen 0.01111111
4 of mine as well
*cries in corner*
Johnny Silverstone *hands over a tissue* "Got Room"
s1r_dr2g0n *looks at A8 5600k*
"come in"
s1r_dr2g0n *puts hand on shoulder* dont worry... it will be affordable in... 6 years. *single tear*
Full-Metal_Jacob *starts crying even more violently than before*
Kheso *Unzips*
Hard to believe these were $4500 back in the day when they were released. I just purchased 2 of these CPUs for a home server just to play around on for the whopping cost of $85 EACH! Nothing like a 98% reduction in cost!
TO MUCH POWER LINUS! TOO MUCH POWAHHH!!!
Love your vids!!
Theguyordie Love your videos cant wait for tutorial tuesday
You watch LinusTechTips? Never new that lol
MindMiner123HD - Minecraft & More IKR
crazy how 10 years later I bought 2 of these for 35 bucks in aliexpress, works perfect
Someday, 18 cores will be normal for a regular gaming PC
+tony052803 Probably in 2-3 years to be honest. Sony just came out with a phone that has 4 cores. We are moving amazingly when it comes to technology.
Btw, you should check out distributed computing projects and find some that you like. I personally participate on World Community Grid!! Let me know if you need help wit this.
+Ernie Sanz phones have had 4 cores along time now...
since 2012
+Mike Hines Wow you are right, my mistake. But yea, I think 18 cores will be the standard before we know it.
+Mike Hines Also, you should really start contributing to distributed computing projects! Check them out and see how you can make technology improve even faster!
+Ernie Sanz Passbook from RIM had 4 cores a couple of years ago.
18 core CPUs will probably be around in 10 to 15 years for PCs.
We are already at 8 core from AMD.
calls a $1000 consumer grade processor for peasants, only has a 780TI on the test bench...
Mastrhix chill this was a year ago
ok
Sarcasm :-)
4 years ago
If it fits, he sits :D
he keeps his thermal compound in his kitchen's cupboard
huh nerd
hes not in an actual living space i think lel
In case of a to hot coffee
Sturmpanzer IV LOL IT'S TRUTH
watch the tour video, youll see the whole place.
This would be a dream to have to render my scenes in 3DS Max xD
5 years later... Ryzen 9 exists
@@Haywood-Jablomie And don't forget Threadripper
@@hammyboigaming904 Dont forget the price of the Threadripper. These are bargains now.
This is amazing, dat CineBench render.
I'd love to see a AME render test at like 4K, using SSDs to eliminate as many bottlenecks as possible.
EposVox ssd is still slow, so a ramdisk would be better in the case of "Bottlenecks" but not in a real world scenario of course is just to see the speed.
Johnny Deep Well yeah, but ramdisk isn't real-world, like you said lol. I'd still want it to be applicable to a realistic workflow.
8 yrs later, now I got dual Xeon E5 26xx for over 100 bucks and its still powerful
My favorite part of this video is when Linus goes to the cupboard to get thermal paste.
"Wussy, core i7-5960x"...
I'm literally watching this on an e8400...
ben esherick..?
I wonder how intel feels about you guys doing this lol. But THROW THAT SHIT INTO SOME GAMES!
***** It won't be much worse either.
It should be much worse. Most games don't optimise more than 2-4 cores and this chip has a lower per-core clock speed.
On the other hand, of the game scales well with number of cores, you be flyin son
Rule907 Most games aren't very multithreaded and if you look closely on the cinebench single core test he did the 4790k won by close to 20% so unless you are playing a very CPU intensive game, that uses a ton of cores, the Xeon would probably preform worse. Still on most games the difference would be unnoticeable I'd imagine.
***** It may be a better, it may be worse... the best way to know is to try.
***** you need to remember that its also at heaps lower clockspeed than the consumer 4790k.. A cpu the remains as the highest factory single threaded performance of all common CPU's. So yes, you have a heap more cores, but does that actually make up for being at less than 2/3rds the frequency? I think thats worth a short video honestly...
2015: OH WOW 18 CORES
2023: pffs we have 128 cores
crysis 3 with 4 way titan x?
xX_DYLM4N_Xx Linus only has 2
oh
I wonder if any game would give any sortof leverage for an 18 core cpu vs a the 5960k
xX_DYLM4N_Xx most games dont use more then 4 cores yet. Also 2.8ghz 18 core would probably lose to a 4.8ghz quad core in gaming
xX_DYLM4N_Xx i don't think so this is meant for more rendering and crisis wouldn't put any kind of that stress on it.
Douglas Gardner no games use 8
he got thermal paste in his kitchen.......................
that wasn't his kitchen, back then that was their office
I ts the recording place of LTT at that stage, ith rheid office
Do you not, casul?
Probably puts it on his toast in the morning :)
I would like to know how fast it would encode a video file ^^
Kazu Thinking the same. A test for its purpose would be nice.
Kazu depending on software your GPU might actually more important. Also, if you are reading large video files (for example RAW video) from a slow SSD that can also be THE bottleneck so it's tough to build a system where you can really use the performance of such an insanely powerful CPU
The SSD can be a bottleneck, if you CPU is capable of writing more data than you SSD can. It would slow down the CPU because the SSD could not handle more. That's what he meant.
*****
On the machine I work with at work, the SSD *is* the bottleneck. I'm not making stuff up ;)
haiggoh get raid 0 :)
I have a Dell Precision on the way via USPS. It has a Xeon E5-2697 v3 14-core CPU installed. I'm excited to play with it.
Why did you try the overclock with the gaming RAM and not the Kingston RAM?
Discovery
S666G666 The Kingston ECC RAM does not support XMP, and all new consumer grade RAM and motherboards use XMP to overclock.
Kevin Stampe Overclocking using XMP is redundant. You could simply manually overclock.
S666G666 xeon chips are locked so you cannot do a traditional multiplier overclock and I believe the ECC RAM would have issues as it is not very overclock friendly. xmp and manual base overclock deal with the bus and affect everything, ECC would possibly throw errors and/or result in the system not booting
Jacob R With newer chips you can separately overclock the CPU strap, without changing the base clock (I think with Xeon chips as well). So changing the CPU strap will not overclock the ECC RAM.
I come from the future, and wanted to run some good ol' games. Can I run Minesweeper on a 48 core Intel Sigma M9 5.35 GHz, with a NVIDIA GeForce Alkaline 305A-Q 3.63 GHz 128 GB VRAM and 1 TB of DDR6 RAM?
Bought a Intel Sigma AL8 with 11.6 GHz with 64 cores, and the GPU is now replaced with a AMD Radeon HHD 95400-WUAQ 148 GB and 9.53 GHz.
I believe that's enough for a weak PC in the year 2028.
Dayum. I guess back then things were pretty cheap.
+VortexumGamer Well you should just wait until the year 2029 when the intel i69 comes out. It has about 5 billion cores. and when minesweeper 2 comes out. But hopefully hl3 will be released.
Half Life 3? It's already out!
+VortexumGamer I was believing you but that last one ... naaah ...
I'm glad u did this, 5 years ago u bought a 5820k and now my rendering in cad is killing me because how slow the 6 cores is now. I'm looking at buying a 2698 v3 and a bunch of ram! 🙏🏿
soon to be in a LTT "budget build" or "bang for your buck" build
can it run 3840 × 2160 Minesweeper explosion simultaneously?
Akaash Ram I think you're asking too much from it.
Bartosz hahahahah I LOL
Bartosz TheMightyChris901 IDC. *This has to be done.*
Akaash Ram no, 18
Bartosz 3840 × 2160 != 180
I know this is slightly unrelated to this video, but I'd love to see a comparison done between Gigabyte, EVGA, MSI, and ASUS X99 boards.
That'd be a good video. Sort of like the Z97 ones they did.
Mr Fuzz Man Motherboards don't effect performance that much, it's more about their specific features. That would be a very VERY boring video.
The Pancakeanator But in certain applications, one board is going to be more preferable over the other (e.g. video editing, audio production, gaming, etc.) and it would be nice to see a comparison done so that people can know which board they're probably going to want to buy so they don't spend more than they really need.
Mr Fuzz Man It would literally be a video looking at spec sheets, ie motherboard a is better for audio production because it has x feature and for the most part, other than reliability and overclocking/bios the motherboard does not matter. Need video editing? strong cpu, audio production? high end sound card, gaming? high end dedicated gpu
ASRock?
So, did all of those companies (intel, kingston etc.) send you all of that stuff for free or did you have to pay for it?
vidm96 Free of course, for them it's like 0,00001 dollar. Free PR! :D
vidm96 Sponsored. He asks for them, to review/ advertise. Whatever you call it.
vidm96 A lot they do get free, but often with strings attached. Sometimes they have to send it back. Also Linus and other reviews ask for equipment or a company will send them equipment to "review".
vidm96 I'm guessing this was a "hey show how amazing are product is and we will send you a couple of these for free". Either that or maybe he just has a good working relationship with them and he just asked and they went "ok".
danbholm slight exaggeration, but it is true that the PR is worth way more to them than the cost of the chip (probably in the $10-50 range)
Just got two of these for USD$50 each in 2023 for a Linux workstation. Have to love how the Chinese still make x99 motherboards with new stuff like NVME etc thrown in.
I would like to know what that Hello Kitty key is for.. 3:38
berry_Nekozi Good eye!
His car keys I think?
His chatity device.
Reap Dungeon
*All I ever see are Intel products being promoted, why no AMD? Are you biased Linus?*
*0.0*
When AMD releases exciting new products we're on them. We even borrowed an R9 295X2 when that launched and they didn't send us one. The issue is that AMD hasn't really released a new enthusiast grade CPU in years. How am I supposed to get excited about making a video about a 3-4 year old product? When AMD releases Zen and it kicks ass (let's hope) we will cover it.
MegaBoomeranger Because AMD hasn't released anything good, CPU wise, in years. That's also why Intel doesn't feel the need to make better chips than just 5 to 10% better than the previous gen.
Rekt.....sorry, I had to.
MegaBoomeranger [ ] Not rekt. [X] REKT.
MegaBoomeranger LOL.... I think he is not biased. He actually does reviews on the best product, which is Intel atm. I can see you are not bias, but pissed probably because you are running AMD... RIGHT!
Hi,-It's good to know the "regular" RAM will work with a Xeon E5 on a consumer board. I've just managed to get a Xeon E5-2697 v3 2nd hand!-The brand new price is just too much!-So, the E5-2697 v3 isn't that far off the one you tested and will be great on an X99 OC Formula or SOC Champion or any other X99 motherboard.
Thanks for the video, it's very helpful
just bought one for 60 bucks...TODAY! in 2023...7 years after this video went live=)
When you get the dual-Xeon motherboard put 8 GTX Titan X's, 256gb of ram and DESTROY any benchmark ever made lol
TommyThousandFaces and wallet, too...
Michael Morrison Unfortunately it's not possible to destroy or crash anything for free yet in this world hahaha
TommyThousandFaces some dude will do it simply to have that #1 spot on 3d mark.
That's not how a dual cpu motherboard works
MrBait09 Actually I think could be possible but I've never saw anyone do it. Dual CPU systems actually do share all the PCI lanes.
I took the risk of saying something stupid I know XD
But can it run Crysis?
Joel Andersson nope
YES,bitch!!!
with a 2.3ghz clock rate? probably at about 10 fps.
2.3 ghz but 18 cores dude means its like 18 core i5 = 1
Nam Phuong its more like 8 bottom tier i5's. which still dosent make a difference on things that demand high clock speeds, like video games.
My first PC had 8MB of RAM and a CPU of like 40MHz,
jesus christ we've come a long way
8gb bro :V not MB
Anime Music VN yes he meant mb
I still sometimes boot up my upgraded PC XT with a stacked RAM configuration to get it up to 512K of RAM, running 4.7 Mhz clock speed. Not a speed demon, but it still does what it was made for well.
I recently bought a couple 1U servers with 2x14core E5-26xx and 128GB and 256GB RAM for less than $1K each. I needed some serious compute power for circuit modeling via optimization. There are some seriously good deals out there on older technology. Far better bang/buck for old servers.
What do you mean exactly I have couple systems myself I’m trying to put to the test one has dual e5 14 core, the other 18 core and I have titan xp but haven’t figured out what to test with yet and couple more systems as well
@@jong-yk3gk That depends on what you want to use your systems for. Passmark software's performance tests and MemTest86 have some benchmarks which might be interesting to you perhaps. I think that these older systems are mostly good for compute-intensive tasks which have a lot of arithmetic operations per memory access and are used for short bursts of hard computing such as engineering software or math-heavy operations and computations - e.g. optimization and/or simulation or perhaps some games? For 24-7 day after day heavy computation, you're likely better off with newer systems due to their greater power efficiency - and that depends on your electricity rates.
I would say that if you just want a big file server that's not heavily loaded with accesses, then get yourself an newer, single socket machine with ECC RAM, at least 32GB RAM (64GB likely better) and loads of slots for 3.5" drives. Ideally, you want hot-swap tool-less slots that let you slide the drives in and out. If you get an older machine for this, I recommend going with a single CPU socket to save energy.
Best
Can this run paint well? If it does I will buy this....
PokerfaceStudioz you will probably be able to run paint on medium settings for around 20-35 fps
***** i hope you know i was joking
PokerfaceStudioz i can barley run minecraft with this cpu and i have a quad titanx
i have to lower the settings to low and play on 10fps
PokerfaceStudioz i think yes but in low settings you will probably get 5 fps and that the maximun fps
I think you need to learn what a "joke" is and "humor"
But can it blend?
That is the question
n n n naa naa n n n naa naa ....
Please no
shut the fuck up
Can it run Minecraft?
No, only Atari breakout.
Atari at 1fps lowest settings 144p
PRO3LEMS Minecraft? please now if your talking Minesweeper it just might blow up.
PRO3LEMS It can, about... 600 FPS
Filip Sebik i would belive it could reach more that 600 as my 4820 can reach 2k w/ 16 gb ddr3 and a 770
Learning about servers and followed your server vs desktop CPUs video, to your Intel vs Xeon video, and finally to this. I think this is the best one yet. I love how excited and happy you are! And getting to see your process and reasoning as you go. :D Plus, your keyboard looks like a Star Trek input panel. :D
"1000 peasant dollars" Totally stealing that! :)
What's next? 128 cores?
No, 22 cores.
Xeon Phi 7290 72 cores
36 cores
69 cores
666 Cores
Does that keyboard come with the "Barbie Typewriter"?
lol
Yea Linus, I built my first Intel Computer since the dual proc 1ghz pent 3 Era. I bought a Xeon e5-2650 for 20$ on ebay, and an Intel dx79ti motherboard for 200$. Which outperformed any of my Previous AMD builds, By a Very large margin. Xeons are amazingly versatile and with the option for Registered ram, it's amazing.
Hey Intel it's me your brother
I understood that reference
Elijah Nguyen I understood that combination of letters.
***** no its not
Joggy hey its your cousin, brother
Neko uh.. hi
And I thought my new i5 was a great CPU considering I was coming from a G3258. Lol
Anthony Jones Better than the piece of shite that I'm using
Tipichounet WHat are you using G32020 lol
Anthony Jones X4 860k, the bottleneck factory.
Absolutely not, the G3258 is a great CPU, id recommend overclocking it though, thats what I did. Plus I cooled it with Corsair Hydro H80i. Id have to recommend aftermarket cooling though if overclocking,
***** Depends on how you intend to use it. If you want to run the latest games you may run into trouble as some games actually check for more than 2 cores. Also the latest AAA games aren't going to let you run at high res with all the graphic options enabled with that processor even married to a Titan, but the G3258 will work fine at lower resolutions if you overclock it.
I've been using one for the past year and played Borderlands 2 and Borderlands the Pre-Sequel with no issues. I do plan to upgrade later this year once desktop Broadwell and Skylake processors are out and the pricing settles, but that's as much future proofing as something useful today.
Never seen Linus so happy lol
Built my own custom pc im slowly becoming an enthusiast about these type of videos this is so cool
Handling a $4000 CPU, you might want to wear an anti static wrist strap! Thumbs up though =)
+GadgetUK164 I thought the same thing
+GadgetUK164 Not necessary if you hold it correctly. In fact, anti static straps are useless unless you know what you're doing.
+Patrick Challita Wouldn't it be useless if you don't know what you're doing?
+3D3LTAGaming who does something without having a clue? Douche
+Patrick Challita Umm... People who overestimate their own abilities.
this guy T-shirt says holy balls
A bowling tee, I'm guessing?
They dont do bowling in Canada too cold. Thats why they have curling ; the pins freeze and shatter when hit.
4500$ proccesor.
"Well that's a ridiculous temperature.... Let's overclock it!"
Linus Sebastian, 2015
I`ve had the ring doorbell for about a year now. And now is the time to get a couple of the v3 also :)
Intel in 2014: 18 cores for 5000$ is top value and wont be beat
AMD in 2021: *Laughs in 64 cores 128 threads Threadrippers*
Edit: Oh now I know why they are called threadrippers
try getting a threadriupper for that price range LOL
@@RappinAcoustic yes an then apply the turbo unlock mod running both cpus at max turbo 3.7ghz all cores. Thats 36 cores an 72 threads for way less than a ripper cpu. Hence why i have two 2699V3 xeons.
AMD in 2023: Laughs in 128 cores 256 threads epyc
@@trinpanapan2990 it seems that my comment aged poorly
Should have done a render in blender
+Akshay Aradhya Should've done a render in Maya...
RocKurTime Not sure if it can render with a GPU but it definitely uses the CPU. You can actually even see each core rendering independently
+RocKurTime it renders with the CPU unless you change the parametre to put your graphiccard
+Monster LMA even a 560ti...
+Akshay Aradhya It can do both.
The question remains: can it run arma 3 multiplayer at ultra?
Nope
No, the real question is can it run minecraft at a stable 3.7 fps
Minecraft at a stable FPS? You're a funny man.
bestFreemaneva aka Rogue Freeman i have 170fps on ultra. 4790k at 4.5ghz
Christian Fokker lol, quit lying
Crazy how i just bought two of these for 80 bucks on Ebay now :D
It has so much cache it can surely take all one's cash also
Lol it still uses less power than the AMD FX-9590
xXDahChubChubXx Lol it still is half as fast as the AMD FX-9590 and has less singlecore performance. T_T Besides the fact that you are comparing a consumer chip to a server chip, which actually use about the same amount of power, you also don't seem to know what TDP means. With the TDP the manufacturers specify the maximum heat output in Watts at which the CPUs can safely operate for a long period of time. The FX 9590 has such a high TDP, because they are specially selected chips with extremely high stability thus beeing able to operate safely at way higher loads than 'bad silicon' FX 8350s for example.
Razor Blade k
Razor Blade Wasen't comparing speeds and yeah in gaming and in single core the AMD would probably win but i don't care, i was comparing how much more grunt it has and how much more stuff is in it compared to the AMD chip and comparing the TDP
xXDahChubChubXx With the speed I just wanted to say that they are sacrificing on something to achieve this. Overall both chips have around the same processing power, but it is used in different ways. It's like you got a 600HP engine and you can either use it with a low gear ratio to move more load with less speed or use a high gear ratio to move less load with more speed.
***** I have not looked it up but i believe you
oh hello young linus :D 4500usd 7 years ago, now they are ~50 bucks in ebay. You can actaully build quite capable and cheap system with these
798 people have pentium 4
Imagine fsx at that! The fps!
+RAZERZ just imagine that!! :), I have an i5 and runs at 30 and I've got lots of add-ons
MVasdf I only got pmdg 737 and a couple of other cuz I reinstall and I get about the same
+RAZERZ yeah it is a heavy bird by its own, but tweaking can also work wonders, like buffer pools and affinity mask
+MVasdf I gained 15fps by tweaking
I'm going to build a rendering system with the following specs:
Intel Xeon Phi 7290F
128GB DDR4 Memory
Some 1.6 Kilowatt Poer Supply
And Thats all I decided.
Is that before or after the 5 rails of cocaine?
Lol. After.
Just for the record I wasn't acrually going to build this. It would be like a $10,000 machine.
***** It's low power for stability and longevity. By far and large the killer of CPUs is heat and increasing voltage stresses the silicon on a molecular level which thus increases heat as you overclock. So having highly efficient CPUs work less and spread it across many cores, you allow for example a 10 core 2.1Ghz processor to work just as well as a 4 Core 4Ghz processor and still be better at software optimised for many threads.
Especially take into consideration that your gaming PC isn't truly at 80-100% load as frequently as a workstation or server which can have hundreds or thousands of users on it on a 12 or even 24 hour basis.
EDIT: Consider a networking server in an office of 30 people. You could have 30 computers at $800 each, or 2 computers at $5,000 each that everyone connects to via cloud computing.
Peter Šori I don't really build servers or other things. That seems very smart I'll take that advice and go with 2 redundant psu's
Linus 5 years later(2020):
How did they fit 64 cores and 128 threads in this?
Well it's pretty cheap i found it on amazon for 200$, especially for 18 cores.
AMD's is overpriced.
Watching this after the X series has been announced. And I can't stop thinking how in 2 years the performance of fairly (?) high end server chip has made it's way into a consumer platform. *WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!*
*reads title*
*laughs in Threadripper*
This guy^ he gets it.
once again linus laughs in the face of those that are relieved to have build their system without breaking anything and tries to overclock a CPU worth the cost of a used car.
***** he didnt mess with voltage so there's no reason to freak out.
***** Yeah, I see what you are saying but he didn't really put the CPU in any risk at all. In the extremely unlikely event that all safety features fail, that means that the CPU was defective anyways.
4500$ processor, 1$ haircut
Now its worth $150 on ebay, crazy how technology advanced so fast since.
Damn we've come a LONG way in 4 years. This compared to thread ripper it just gets trounced.
Its not a gaming CPU. i7 4790k at 4.5ghz would kill it in any game.
Nice video Linus.
The i7 5820k kills the 4790k
FeaR FuZiioN Not in gaming. Core clock is still the king, 4Ghz stock on 4790k still beats anything.
Well an i5 4690k does just as good in gaming
Axecution Well yeah, i5's are doing good as i7's, HT isnt helping when it comes to gaming.
GTAV has been utilising all 6 cores on my system.
Certainly not the norm, but it's heading that way.
3DMark Firestrike, top score incoming.
Fun fact: the e5 2699 v3 is slower than the 2696v3 but the 2696v3 is 3 times cheaper than 2699v3 rn (in VN)
STOP SWINGING THE CPU AROUND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LINUS.
Someone in 20 years will be watching this video thinking lol this was my first computer it was so bad now I have a 30 core cup half the size
that's probably not gonna happen because Transistors in the cpus are already almost as small as it gets because electrons are weird
but no one knows what will happen in the future ;)
In 20 years, specs will be so good, people won't even pay attention to it. Who cares if one spec is twice as good as another if it only costs as much as a pack of gum?
computing method will probably change... they say that they have reached the peak of this type and switch to quantum computing.
Ha its funny but no need to wait amd will release its 64 core 128 threaded Epyc processor in 2019.
It’s crazy to think that 4.5 years later AMD came out of nowhere and dropped a 64 core 128 thread processor for HEDT not even just server
We better start saving for that 256 core cpu in 2024.
the 3700x is not far of in cinbench at about 2000 never mind the big chips
ErikGPL Next year maybe, as they already have 128 Core EPYC Rome
Oh man, old linus videos are a trip
"Come quickly! It's installing drivers. You'll miss it!"
And all around the world, women's panties dropped to the floor...
today this xeon e5 2600 v3 is sale for 40-200€ .... is still monster
Its crazy how my 8 core 3800x is almost as fast as this 22 core. WOW.
Not even close for workstation workloads
2:47 I really went "Oh damn! Linus is such a pro he doesn't even need thermal compound!"
How about it in dual, 5ghz and watercooled rendering a 1 minute 4k 60fps vid?
***** But-but just imagine the possibilities!
Sengial that's like saying imagine a pentium g3258 running at 30Ghz
Sengial The possibilities of a Xeon when it comes to overclocking are limited, as Linus showed us in this video. A 5% overclock using watercooling evidently doesn't yield a stable setup, any higher than 10% would mean it can't even boot at all.
Can't wait for my phone to run Crysis though.
Michel van Briemen Dude, Crysis 3 is being ported to Android to run on the Shield console. IT CAN RUN CRYSIS!!!!! What a time to live in.
GOPACKERSJT That's cool, but I was hinting more towards an x86-based phone that could natively run the original Crysis.
Also, Can It Run Crysis was a running gag for years following its release :D
imagine this on a server board with 4 sockets for 72 cores and 144 threads and 1 tb of ram (server motherboards support that) aww yiss
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1000earc How about this?
ark.intel.com/products/84685/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8890-v3-45M-Cache-2_50-GHz
Supports 8 of these and 1536 GB of RAM
1000earc
gr8 m8
The intel XEON cpu line should just be called the Aliexpress cpu
9 years later we have 128 core insanely fast cpu. Intel has a 256 core cpu out and is gonna make a 512core cpu within the next year. And it’s pretty common to have 12-16 core for even non professionals with the bare minimum being 6 and mid tier being 8. Oh and all hyper threaded with tons of cache and pcie lans ofc. 12 full fat cores is now amds mainline offering.
On the downside budget gaming is dead but the rise of the igpu means you don’t need it and we have insanely fast $500-600 beasts that can run modern new AAA games at 60fps 1080p comfortably and also are almost as powerful as a normal desktop that’s about 8 times the size. Small enough to mount to the back of a monitor.
if this was unlocked we could have future proof rig but intel know so they lock it... Imagine 18 core at 4.0ghz
It would burn your house tho
Kristian Grønås they can clock a 5960x at 4.5 on a h110i gtx. The cooler is not overwhelmed. It transfer issue. So those 18 core could run on those cooler at like 4ghz + Realise that a 120mm watercooler can cool a 600w gpu
+Kristian Grønås (MNI CaptainKriss) Cool it with liquid nitrogen, or dry ice
+MrBonami2 you would need a motherboard that can supply the 400 or so watts you're going to need in order to feed an overvolted 18-core haswell cpu.
Energy Core that easy any high end msi board can supply to kind of power.. Or the evga sr 2 kind of mobo.
I was in pain while you were pronnouncing "cache" so many times whith the contacts side of the processor near to your mouth and in its direction T_T
You could have accidentally spit on it omg be careful xD
+Dustin Christensen it's not about turned off CPUs being sensitive to liquid per se, but about that when the "liquid" is cleaned/evaporated/sublimated, there will probably be solid waste that is extremely difficult to detect (thus to remove), and it remains in the contacts being potentialy dangerous for the CPU in multiple ways.
CPUs are extremely delicate, they might get relatively very dirty, clean them carefully and perfectly work like nothing happened. They can take some microscopic liquid drops/dust particles and cause a fatal short circuit in the next power on.
+Dustin Christensen we're not talking about a Celeron dude... I'm not even saying you're wrong but let's leave it in "I wouldn't take the risk with an $4000 CPU". Linus would? seems so, but I only said that I was suffering while watching it, not that he has to suffer too.
+Benito Llan Matos
Liquid can't sublimate. Sublimation is when a solid turns to a gaseous state, skipping liquid all together. So, by definition, liquid can't sublimate.
Is it safe to OC chips like this?
NEVER...EVER... TRY TO OVERCLOCK A XEON. Your asking for trouble
Anthony Jones i have a light overclock on my xeon systems. no problem.
***** Overclocking using a multiplier only effects the cpu.
Overclocking the base clock (100-105) effects everything you use, such as your pci-e slots, usb ports, LAN, ram, SSD/HDD and so on. You're messing with a lot of things for not much gain.
My 0x1E this doesnt make sense to me.
does OCing the base clock directly affect GPU, ethernet, USB, and SSD speeds? this definitely doesn't seem like the case for me.
BattousaiHBr It effects the link speed, not the actual clock speed of your GPU.
You're overclocking the bus speed. USBs are designed to work with a base clock of 100Mhz. Going higher can cause data corruption for the USB and SSD/HDD because you're taking them out of their operational frequency. You're not overclocking your USB to stay in-line with the extra speed of the BCLK.
For instance, my sound card (Asus essence 7.1) will not allow the computer to boot if the BCLK is above 101 BCLK.
Overclocking using the BCLK is just a bad idea no matter how you look at it.
2023 and i get this recommended on the home page. something is going on.
back when this thing was decent. now a 13400f outperforms it by a long shot.