*sigh* Yes, BIOS modding is a thing, and when you're building the entire motherboard in-house including its BIOS, it's not even a stretch to think you can just add NVMe support to the BIOS (EFI ROM, pedantry, etc). No, it's not SATA. It's PCIe. It's not difficult. Those little PCIe-to-m.2 adapter cards are awesome, and you can boot them by either inserting an EFI module into the ROM (win-raid dotcom has info), or by using the DUET EFI boot loader on a (secondary) SATA hard drive or permanent-fixture USB stick, which has support for NVMe booting. There's a whole host of ways to get this done on any platform you want. I'm over here booting NVMe on a Core 2 Duo, ok? Not kidding.
For sure! Even in 2021, having access to new-ish legacy boards like x79 makes getting cheapo 3rd and 4th gen Intel extreme cpus in ebay a fantastic option for budget servers, render boxes, overkill nas setups, plex, etc.
My gaming pc dont have that crappy interface and its super old. Here is the spec. Mobo:P8Z68-V Pro Cpu:i7-2600K @ 4.4Ghz CpuKylare:Noctua NH-D14 Gpu:ASUS GTX 690 Ram:XMS3 DDR3 1600MHz 16GB HDD:HyperX 3K SSD 240GB,OCZ VERTEX Plus 120GB ,1.0TB SCREEN:3 x ACER 24''TFT 3D 120Hz Chassi:Thermaltake Level 10 GT Psu:HX750W Silver Mod OS:Win 7 Pro
I appreciate that linus doesnt like laugh or get annoyed with the rep. He respects that english is likely her 2nd or even 3rd language. Its so disrespectful and rude when people make fun of people who have broken english.
@@thedeadliest4380 it's not that she didn't know nothing about it, is that she didn't understand half of what Linus said. Try answering a complex, technical question in a language you can barely speak.
@@ninaw.3101or or keep with me their humans that laugh because they actually just find it funny like you know almost every other person on the planet? You are not a ass hole just for laughing at someone's broken language. What he's doing is being professional by not laughing. Which I do give him respect for
She probably only knows some very basic English. As it is most likely not her first language, so there's a language barrier. And probably doesn't understand the concept of what has been done with the board itself. She's probably been told to answer simple questions like will this do gaming
Yeah I think in that moment she wished he just started talking about gaming or something so that she can just say 'is very good for game, fast game' what she tells literally everybody else and then he comes in and starts attacking her with those questions lol
Yeah, I think she didn't fully grasp what he was asking. She's on the spot with a camera in her face and obviously not a native English speaker. I really don't think she was trying to be misleading so much as English and maybe even computer illiterate. Could be wrong though, maybe she'd just say anything to get that $95.
...Tbh nearly every parts of a pc are directly coming from a chinese factory but the component in it might not, including this used X79 chipset. Which mean it's hard to decide what can be called a chinese part and what can not.
Yup. And even on an older server motherboard (C602/604 chipset) you can boot from NVMe. Edit the UEFI if you're ballsy, find a 950 PRO or Plextor M8 if you just want it to work out of the box.
Brian Yurkanin except he kinda touched on that later in the video when he did some quick Craigslist checking. so he didn't entirely miss the point. he just didn't come to the budget conclusion until later on.
Also giving new life to your cpu after the old X79 board dies.. Damn things are pricey even used, I saw something comparable (no name brand) on new egg so their out there for sure!
@@sheik124 I am still getting by just fine with my P9X79 WS, which I originally bought because at the time it was one of Linus's favorite boards, when he was still reviewing mobos; the video is still on here somewhere. After some research I was able to find some custom BIOSs for that board that enabled NVMe boot support, and it worked like a charm. With 7 PCI-E full length slots the expandability is great. Right now I mostly rely on single thread performance so I'm using a 4820k OC'd to 4.5 Ghz but the same socket will accept up to a 12 core Xeon. Before I went with the BIOS flash I just used an M.2 SATA drive which has the same overall speeds but far better IOPS, so that's an option. The problem is the GOOD X79 boards and CPUs are not actually cheap (if you want the extreme editions or the high core count Xeons they are as much as a modern CPU), and you are really better off buying new. I spent $300 on my P9X79 and that was only a few years ago, only because I couldn't afford a complete upgrade for a workstation board. Was the day I realized just how important not skimping on your mobo is if you're a serious power user. So I wouldn't really suggest this for someone building a new rig, but X79 is still a super powerful platform for the right uses and just because it's nearly 10 year old hardware doesn't mean it still can't pack some serious power. They make absolutely fantastic server platforms too, great way to re-use your old hardware.
I love the "Reduce, Re-use, Recycle" aspect of these mobos. It's so refreshing in a throw away society. I also love the attitude of "Oh you aren't supposed to do this? You say you can't do this? Whatever, we did it anyway. And it works. Haters gonna hate."
Wish this was the norm. There is a legislation for right to repair for users. If this passes, it will be the first step to abolishing the built-in expiry dates into electronics.
I literally just replaced my old HEDT workstation (X79 / i73930k) with a ryzen rig (yesterday!) . I Bought it back in 2013 and overclocked it from day one....and still works perfectly! It will continue its life as a media center and a retro gaming rig (mame, 8bit/16bit emulators).
If they were reusing old motherboards I would say yes. But they're making new boards with old chips... how much material is used to create a few chips, compared to a giant circuit board with metal connectors all over? It might be a good way to save *money* however.
linus reviewed a mobo that had support for like three generations of intel chip iirc on a chipset that "officially" didn't support those chips. I think it was titled intel lied or something.
Lyirianna Trouffarld go to China and try speaking English. You racist prick. Typical American ignorant. Acting like America is the centre of the universe
Brazilian here, theres a lot of people importing these bizarre mobos and processors from Aliexpress. I even saw a dual chip mobo, very cheap. Saw a lot of russians reviews in aliexpress too. Basically two reasons: 1 - As Linus said: cheap option. 2 - Brazilians custom dont tax anything under 100 USD, so, brazilians import everything separately.
even though im not brazilian i can confirm this, its better to just directly import them from aliexpress instead of buying locally because they inflate the price like 1.5-2x
@sol badguy well the logic behind it is ppl that buy these have limited budget and isnt likely to upgrade any time soon (in the time span of 3 years or so which currently released platform will be obsolete anyway), its better in their mind to buy an older near TOTL platform for cheap rather than new but entry level for the same price
@sol badguy Sandy supported sse 4.2, mostly AMD processors were behind on instruction sets, the phenom II notable for being the most "modern" cpu to suffer from patchy game support.
In fact, in China this motherboard is only 70 USD.If you would like to purchase a completely used。It could have been cheaper.It is also possible to useE5
These boards are meant for the surplus of Xeon processors that have entered the market through depreciating server hardware from around 2012. You should've paired it with the Xeon 2690 or 1650v2 which are both sub-$150. This way you also get access to cheaper used ECC RAM.
aha yes i would take everything with a pinch of salt with her answers i guess she tried her hardest to answer but if your going show a product you want soemone who understand the lingo
As someone who runs a Facebook group with the question: "How did you become interested in analog photography" I have learned that people from Asian speaking countries don't really get 'when' or 'how' or 'what' or 'why'. They mix it up, or just miss out on the word alltogether. It does make for some hilarious responses though.
Titan X's are cheap as hell now. You can pick them up for £200, the low price of 1080 TI has killed the Titan X as a GPU platform. It is best for workstations on graphics, CAD etc. If you have £600 to build a Workstation a second hand TITAN X is a solid choice
Actually, in China we use Xeon E5 and ECC REG memory on boards like that. That's what the boards are used for, it's just cheap and high performance. There are even many 2011 boards with H61 or B75 Chipset inside. Linus really should test them out. In South America they should also doing like that, nobody uses i7 on it. Maybe that's the only board who have experienced that high-grade treatment XD.
So here in Brazil, i know so many people who use a X99 motherboard and a Xeon, and every one buys it from Aliexpress, and if you have a new Ryzen or a new Intel Core, it's pretty much over the top, because a upgrade with a Intel Core i7 8800k for example with 16gbs of memory, costs double then a X99 motherboard with a Xeon V3 and 16gbs of ddr4 memory
Clearly he's not used to talking to someone who doesn't speak English as their first language. He's not picking up on the fact that she's only picking up a few of the words he's saying and basically repeating them back.
@@jgon12 What? You're confused. It has nothing to do with her knowledge of computers and/or computer hardware, it has to do with her knowledge of the English language.
Doesn't seem legit, but I gotta admit, if they're recycling old/used computer parts and bundling them together for sale to people in poorer nations, it's not actually a bad idea and a win win for everyone.
IF they were bring honest about that lol! I'm hoping it was just a con rep that didn't fully know what they were talking about (pretty common at all types of conventions) and that they are more forthcoming with their actual business
@@AaronShenghao from my observations, they only take out the chipset, and important components that cannot be cloned, the rest of the motherboard is brand new
Linus- look in to bios modding these boards! There's a lot you can do with a simple BIOS mod, RAM oc'ing and bringing up CPU clocks primarily. They also support ECC memory.
I suspect that the lady's English might very well be perfect but she didn't know what to answer or knew that it was probably better not to answer and decided to stall instead.
That's how most of the Chinese reps are, especially the females. You're tying to buy a car and ask them to tell you about the car "uhhhh yes, this car, this door, this color, this drive long long distance."
"I don't know why they wouldn't be upfront about that" Well I think the language barrier, and possibly technical knowledge, has something to do with that.
@@Ferrari255GTO , the standard industry term is sales representative, or sales rep for short, but many companies (at least English-speaking ones) have come up with their own euphemisms, like … partners, teammates, team members, customer relations specialists, etc.
"I only sign up to write product reviews in Chinglish. They bundle me into large box on third day on job. Now I am here at Computex and strange Canadian in sandals is asking me things."
There is also reason that desktop hardware, a lot of people who can't afford high performance computers like for 2K $. From simple reason demand increase for budget PC. I i also builded computer with xeon. Sometimes i have more fps at some games than at newest ryzen's and i7 machines. So we can have a great set today thanks to those people who making modern motherboards with old socket. I bought other motherboard which can oc cpu, ram and you can use SLI haha, Linus bought random one, better to look online at aliexpress, there is a lot of stuff with "x79" they use other chips, but it works the same as the original. On the aliexpress, description is much better what we have and what support's a motherboard.
You know what Linus,this kind of X79 motherboard always match with a Xeon E5 processor like E5 2689 etc,and that's the real use of this motherboard lol
totally, I was seeing how hard it was to get an 8 core 16 threads for some software I wanted, and I found these, instead of blowing the money on an i7 I can do this instead and have a ton of RAM for blender.
The real use of this motherboard is to give you PCIe 3.0 M.2 NVME on Windows 7 supported CPUs like the 39xx, 49xx, 59xx, 69xx with 4,6,8 and even 10 cores!
Linus, you can buy that motherboard on AliExpress named HUANAN X79 GAMING DELUXE, and there buy cheap server memory and processors, like xeon e5 1660 or e5 2680 for not high price. A lot of people buy this stuff for personal computers in Russia for cheap price and high level of performance
I thought professional usually use this kind of hardware for server work, Is it really2 that cheap that common people starts using this rather than normal price hardware. and what do common people use this for usually? (gaming/editing/office work) whats the benefits of this level of rig for common people. what level of performance can you compare this to in beginner's term (i7/i5 processors, Z390 motherboard?) can you tell me, I'm really not well informed on this topic.
@@RatchetRorschach the main focus of this kind of hardware is build cheap gaming platform that goes along some mid and mid high graphic cards.. in most cases, higher core count doesnt affect much the performance in this situation, but the cpu frequency. so if the focus is gaming, better get, for instance, a 4 core 3.7ghz than a 8 core 2.6 ghz. but if you use some specific multi threaded applications than could get some benefits going with 8, 10 or even 12 cores.
Ratchet Rorschach well, kit from this motherboard + Xeon e5-2670 and like 16gb of ram will cost you about 200-250$, you will get i7 8700k like performance. I actually had a couple of systems like that, Asus p9x79-e ws + e5-2680v2 plus 32gb of ram, that was damh fast system, 3.8 ghz on 10 cores in 2015, after that a had x99 with e5-2683v3, 14 cores with 3.15 ghz turbo. And here we are, now my daily driver is ultrabook on i7-8565u with e-gpu:)
These motherboards can be bought from aliexpress for around 50$ and bundled with a 40$ Xeon (Like the E5 2689, always from aliexpress) to make a pretty sweet budget gaming bundle.
Can you please make high-res pictures of the front and back PCB and send it to Buildzoid (Actually Hardcore Overclocking)? I would really apriciate that! :)
@@RFLCTR Sure he could also take pictures of the instructions, or even better send the whole board, including the CPU, over to him, or even better fly him to them and make a collaboration! :)
Dear Linus, Here's Kenny again, you're always my favorite TECH channel, but the truth is you really need to study more about Chinese TECH culture and products, Just like last time I replied on the onda h310 Mb about intel lied. I'm working with these motherboard almost every day to make budget build for my costumers in HK, I know almost everything about them First of all, it's not anything new to see m.2 NVMe support on old CPU and motherboard, actually since sandy bridge, every single CPU that has direct access between PCIe lanes and CPU, a very little BIOS modification can make perfect support on NVMe, especially x79/ x99, these CPUs had 40+ PCIe lanes directly from the CPU, they can even support NVMe raid0, I'll talk about this later. Second, In China, these x79 / x58 motherboard are even more common then mainstream MB and CPU, you're paying a very very extreme price for these MB due to the area you're in, the very best china x79 motherboard in HK and China just cost less than $70 USD, they have perfect support on NVMe/ quad channel 1866 ddr3 (ecc reg available for XEON CPUs) / overclocking ability on unlocked CPUs (e.g 3930k/4960x/e5 1650v2/e5 1680v2....) Third, these are meant to use with e5 XEONs and ecc reg RAM to make budget gaming builds, instead of i7s. PC builder like me in HK and China can build a high quality 4k gaming rig with these MB within $800usd, e.g E5 1680v2 overclocked MB like this one 8gx4 ecc reg 1866 ddr3 Vega64 / GTX 1080 NVMe ssd And all other HW for a rig...... Finally back to the NVMe support, you're the greatest LINUS, you should know how a PCIe m.2 ssd works, it has almost nothing to do with the motherboard if you have direct PCIe lanes to your CPU, architecture like a x79 CPU has all the PCIe lanes you'll ever need, these manufacturer just pre-moded their BIOS to made it done, that's nothing really to be Surprised about, you're already very lucky to work with this model, it built with a real x79 chipset, most of the Chinese "x79" MB are built with modified sandy bridge/ ivy bridge chipset (e.g h61/b75/q67/c202...Etc), these Mb can't support overclocking and some of them will stuck with 1600mhz ddr3 although you have a e5 v2 CPU, you really should work a little harder to dig more into these Chinese TECH, there are much more for you to be amazed, I'll leave a little rabbit hole here to let you guys to dig into, let's just say, PC builder like me can build an 8 core 16 threads higher frequency gaming rig with these MB and e5 CPUs that can play PUBG over 100 fps high settings 1080p within the budget $300usd... You're always my best inspiration, I'll always love you all, thanks LINUS and all those made LTT the greatest TECH channel ever!
Wait one of the best X79 in China only cost $70? Is there any good board in AliExpress or Alibaba that we (non Chinese) can buy? I want to build a E5 1000/2000 overclocked system with these Chinese X79 boards but I don't know which one has the best or at least decent VRM to handle overclocked E5-1650 for example. Would be great if you can show us a which mobo has a decent VRM.
@@NaoVII dear dreadnought, if you need to overclocking your 1650v2, there's only one choice form haunanzhi x79-p3, only this one has the real x79 chipset, you can overclocking with xtu in Windows, I don't suggest you go over 4.3ghz all cores with Chinese MB, although they already improve their vrm a lot, but it's limited settings Will affect your oc, my best record is 4.6 ghz all cores with stable temps around the system
@@kennyso7119 Thanks for the recommendation, btw I also found these boards: - Plex HD m.id.aliexpress.com/item/32797594279.html?spm=a2g0n.wishlist-amp.item.32797594279&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=8309amp-6DfMofnt-lGIdOD9gaF6LQ1562067812386 - Jingsha m.id.aliexpress.com/item/33033648015.html?spm=a2g0n.wishlist-amp.item.33033648015&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=8309amp-6DfMofnt-lGIdOD9gaF6LQ1562067812386 Have you ever built a PC with one of these? Which one do you think is better? The Huananzhi one I found seems a little bit too expensive to the point that it's better to buy a modern mobo with that kind of money ($100) 😅
@@NaoVII I sometimes wonder why we don't get more companies like Huawei, which take parts built in China, pack them together and sell them under one big brand to the rest of the world, but do that for something else than phones. Laptops and all-in-one PCs would be a good example of what could make them popular. All you have to do to make them popular is to give the list of components which would be around as powerful as the thing you're trying to sell, as well as how much money people would save by buying the already-built product from you than buying all the parts themselves.
Yes... this motherboard can work for the game, yeah. There's the memory slot. - Where do you get x79 chipsets? Ah yes chipsets, chipsets... and theres the CPU
LOL, but hey she answered other questions quite well, giver her some credit, honestly I wish I spoke Chinese (Mandarin) as good as she speaks English!!
@@josevalenzuela142 i wish i could be this bad at my job and a foreign language and still to be promoted as a spokesmen at an international convention abroad
@@lizerlothdlb2389 It's not really abroad though, Computex is in Real China, presumably she was from PR China since AFAIK the company she works for is an aliexpress store; it's very likely they just didn't realize they'd be attracting attention from outside the Asian market.
@@haloreachisbae1943 in stream, he critizised their product value, because they use rly much plastic for their stuff, for a price, you can already buy full metal ones from ek and watercool..
@@starcitizen890j5 I thought he was pretty positive in his "review" of that monitor? If anything it's the monitor itself that's lacking, Linus clearly loved it.
@@sang3Eta i get that, but what i am saying is that it was not supported on the x79. But that board has one on it, would have been interesting to test the functionality of it, since it was not officially part of the Intel chipset.
@@GeneralLeeIrritable Technically M.2 NVME became a thing with Windows 8.1 but Microsoft released Windows 7 support for LGA2011 systems with Windows 7 updates KB2990941 and KB3087873.
The funny thing is that when she said that, we assumed she was wrong and basically clueless. Then it turns out this motherboard can work for the game. Score 1 for the Taiwanese lady.
For me I will always do not buy China’s mother board because China pc manufacturers sometimes they will do some unique, Mother boards that may not support the pc systems just saying , that’s why always buy a normal gaming mother board or, none gaming pc from original intel 😅
0:20 Those gpus have the same shrouds of all those "chinese" knockoff that you can find on ebay that say that they are like "gtx 1050" when in reality they're just gts450/gtx 550 with modded bios on them.
I don't think he's even aware of the video wave surrounding these from last year. Most other PC tech channels that actually focus on stuff most of us can afford have done them.
I got a board manufactured by these guys about a year ago back when DDR4 was still way too expensive. It's pretty good, actually. The highest clock speed supported on them normally is 3.9ghz but if you flash a custom bios you can get them a bit higher. Keep in mind that there's no voltage adjustment so obviously these boards aren't designed for extreme overclocking, but you can get a nice bump out of them.
As far as i know these boards support not only Xeon E5 CPUs but also DDR3 ECC Reg memory. So this board, an 8C16T 3.3GHz CPU like the E5-2689 and 32GB of RAM would only cost you ~250USD total which is incredible value for money
there are actually better ones that do have full quad channel support and ram and cpu overclocking. and 2 m.2 slots, one for boot drive, one for wifi/bluetooth.
Yup. The value old Xeons can offer is extremely hard to beat. I have more X79, X58, C602 and 5520 Chipset systems a single Person can ever need but in total i probably still spent less than the average Gaming PC costs. (Especially the E5-1660 v1 @ 4.6GHz in my LAN rig still got plenty of life left in it.)
Most likely he havent. And he bought this board at CES in January. It has just been sitting around, as this is not a type of video where its really important when its showed. Its not about something new or exciting, more just a geeky piece about something funny, and that it actually is a thing. Most likely they have just had this and/or the idea on the backburner to pull out when they had a spot to fill.
c2d and c2q, and some old 1366 xeons,and sold at a somewhat higher price (1.5-2x) price at local stores compared to aliexpress, sandy & ivy are core i series, not c2d
Im using a Ebay motherboard similar to this got it for $80, and a Xeon E5-2630, with 16gb ddr3 ecc ram! These builds are literally budget beast! running it with a budget used GTX 1070 also !
Linus: "Where do you sell the motherboard?" Rep: "Sell to where?" That's exactly the clarification that I also wanted. Not "AliExpress..." but "South America..."
I think Linus gets a bit jaded because he is constantly around not just the latest consumer hardware, but future engineering samples and stuff that outperforms anything X79 could ever do by leaps and bounds, and he does not really have price constraints. In the past he made a video about the P9X79 board from Asus being his favorite board yet, but when the next, faster platform is right around the corner and it's your JOB to buy it and review it, that doesn't last long. Eventually I'll will be getting a 12 core Xeon and replace my server with this board, but for now, as you say, it's powerful enough to play the latest games at high or better settings (w/ RTX 2070, I sometimes do get CPU bottlenecking of course) at very high resolutions with all the background tasks I usually have going. The CPUs on the platform have extremely good OC capabilities and you can run some of them stable at clocks up to 4.7 Ghz. Based on benchmarks my 4820k is at least as good as a 6700K and close to a stock 7700K, even if it does suck up more power and put off more heat. For single threaded stuff there is very little performance change for the newer CPUs, as clock speeds haven't been going up.
I'm still running an i7-3930K OC'd to 4.5 Ghz as my daily driver for software development and gaming. x79 is / was a beast. Shame they long since stopped supporting it with drivers.
those boards have been a life lesson to me, when it came to gaming I wanted the best and top-notch specs, I built two months ago a 300$ system and it totally wipes the floor with the 1500$ system I assembled back in 2014. My expectations were surpassed (yeah the BIOS is no TUF but gets the job done, and they are pretty easy to mod
Budget build on this is simply OP. Cpu's for this platform is really cheap on Aliexpress, like xeon 2689 8cores/16threads, thich perfoms like -5% of ryzen 1700 only for the 60$ cost. This cpu has monster value and performing extremely well for its price. DDR3 ECC REG (its server only ram) is really cheap, so you can get 4x4 gb or 2x8 gb ram for ~40$. Quad channel does a great job on compensating slow DDR3 ram which often overperform dual channel DDR4. WIth BIOS firmware upgrade this board can overclock CPU and RAM easyly. Мany others Aliexpess x79 boards like green or orange Huanan x79, plexHD, kukete, kllisre, jungsha, thich are all very good choises, can overlock by default). Ram are usually 1333mhz overclockable up to 1866mhz, this is extremely important, especially for extra cheap builds on only 2 channel x79 boards. Other good price/perfomance CPU models are: 2640 32nm 6 cores/12 threads 2.5ghz turbo boost 3.0ghz 20$ 2620v2 22nm 6 cores/12 threads 2.1ghz turbo boost 2.6ghz 19$ 1620 32nm 4 cores/8 threads 3.6ghz turbo boost 3.8ghz overclockable up to 3.9ghz-4.3ghz~ 46$ 1650 32nm 6 cores/12 threads 3.2ghz turbo boost 3.8ghz overclockable up to 3.9ghz-4.2ghz~ 106$ 1650v2 22nm 6 cores/12 threads 3.5ghz turbo boost 3.9ghz overclockable up to 3.9ghz-4.2ghz~ 146$ Basically v1 is Sandy Bringe(32nm), and v2 is Ivy Bridge(22nm) So IMO if you are not afraid of Aliexpress of even Taobao, it's the cheapest) way to get youself budget value build in range of ~100$ for motherboard+cpu+16gb ram to ~265$ for stock ryzen 2600 perfomance and 32gb ram.
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Linus: Can you tell me a little bit about this motherboard
Rep: It play game
Linus's face🤣
And here's a memory slot.
Linus:😒😒
big booms long time
To be fair it could be a language barrier issue. Reading and speaking are different, especially when you can use translation tools.
Rep: It pray grame. Yheahhh
The NVMe drive worked exactly as expected.
No, the NVMe drive worked as advertised. That was definitely not expected.
I was expecting flames and smoke.
Pretty sure "as expected" would have been "did not work"
Zing
we don't have any ssd which can both support sata and nvme
*sigh* Yes, BIOS modding is a thing, and when you're building the entire motherboard in-house including its BIOS, it's not even a stretch to think you can just add NVMe support to the BIOS (EFI ROM, pedantry, etc). No, it's not SATA. It's PCIe. It's not difficult. Those little PCIe-to-m.2 adapter cards are awesome, and you can boot them by either inserting an EFI module into the ROM (win-raid dotcom has info), or by using the DUET EFI boot loader on a (secondary) SATA hard drive or permanent-fixture USB stick, which has support for NVMe booting. There's a whole host of ways to get this done on any platform you want. I'm over here booting NVMe on a Core 2 Duo, ok? Not kidding.
Linus: What can the motherboard do?
Rep: It can do the gaming...
I'll take twenty
Thats all the information i needed
Hey, it's got memory slots!
That poor rep was in over her head. Although you'd think that they'd at least have someone on site thst new the basic specs of the board...
Linus should’ve spoken Chinese.
Linus: Can you tell me a little bit about this motherboard
Rep: It play game
Linus: Sold!
npw 81, unless someone else likes it
X79 mb is a server motherboard. She was saying thay this mb is modified for desktop use.
@Dilet 420 likes...
Sold!!!
Lolz
she had absoloutely no clue what you said linus
Her and half of youtube
@@sopcannon really that many people didnt understand him that rudimentary
@@damionp8615 considering youtube is world wide, I would guess that half of the Planet can't speak English or any variation of it
@@sopcannon youtube is not world wide. It is not available in China which is a huge part of the global population
@@AniviaS Yeah China needs to stop having babies or the world is fucked.
Linus: What does it do?
Rep: It works for the game.
Linus: SOLD!
yes
Should have asked what game, since it only seems to work for one. :D
@FRODO SWAGGINS googl
Linus has experience with sweet talking the asian women
It's in the game
I really appreciate that they're recycling these old chipsets. Good job 👍
Cutting down on e-waste is always a benefit. Because otherwise the CPUs just end up in the trash when the motherboard runs its course.
@@SolidSonicTH yes i have problems getting New z170 or z270 mobos for my 6700k like if it has 10 years or more, smh.
@@repeater95 I sold my z170 motherboard 5 months ago.
@@repeater95 Can't find z77 mobo for my 1240v2, so sad but true.
For sure! Even in 2021, having access to new-ish legacy boards like x79 makes getting cheapo 3rd and 4th gen Intel extreme cpus in ebay a fantastic option for budget servers, render boxes, overkill nas setups, plex, etc.
i cried when he said the bios looked retro because that's what i have
@Christie Malry same for my 0 years old msi laptop
My gaming pc dont have that crappy interface and its super old. Here is the spec.
Mobo:P8Z68-V Pro Cpu:i7-2600K @ 4.4Ghz CpuKylare:Noctua NH-D14 Gpu:ASUS GTX 690 Ram:XMS3 DDR3 1600MHz 16GB HDD:HyperX 3K SSD 240GB,OCZ VERTEX Plus 120GB ,1.0TB SCREEN:3 x ACER 24''TFT 3D 120Hz Chassi:Thermaltake Level 10 GT Psu:HX750W Silver Mod OS:Win 7 Pro
That's the way BIOS _should_ look. What's the point of having a UI like in Crysis in the effing BIOS??
Thats how my current s754 bios looks like. Im running athlon64 3700+ and ddr(1) memmory combined with an hd4650 agp card
meathook3000 It’s the UEFI that was made in 2016-2017, making it more robust and easier to navigate.
I appreciate that linus doesnt like laugh or get annoyed with the rep. He respects that english is likely her 2nd or even 3rd language. Its so disrespectful and rude when people make fun of people who have broken english.
@@thedeadliest4380 maybe maybe not but people shouldnt be made fun of for knowing multiple languages however broken
@@thedeadliest4380 it's not that she didn't know nothing about it, is that she didn't understand half of what Linus said.
Try answering a complex, technical question in a language you can barely speak.
Why would he randomly start making fun of a sales rep bruh 😂
@@zenodezeno454 plenty of people do just cause they're a holes
@@ninaw.3101or or keep with me their humans that laugh because they actually just find it funny like you know almost every other person on the planet? You are not a ass hole just for laughing at someone's broken language. What he's doing is being professional by not laughing. Which I do give him respect for
Linus: How can the X79 motherboard support NVMe?
Sales Rep: Yes.
For do the gaming
What can you tell me about this motherboard?
Yes.
Where do you get the chipset?
Yes.
I think that she doesn't know.
english isnt her first lang and im sure she herself doesnt know much :/
She probably only knows some very basic English. As it is most likely not her first language, so there's a language barrier. And probably doesn't understand the concept of what has been done with the board itself. She's probably been told to answer simple questions like will this do gaming
Is it 4 channel?
Yes 4 channel
Is intel still making x79 chipset?
Yes, cpu
I don’t know linus...
Yeah I think in that moment she wished he just started talking about gaming or something so that she can just say 'is very good for game, fast game' what she tells literally everybody else and then he comes in and starts attacking her with those questions
lol
I think it's a language issue
@@yaroslavpolosin317 Now she knows linus
Haha
Yeah, I think she didn't fully grasp what he was asking. She's on the spot with a camera in her face and obviously not a native English speaker. I really don't think she was trying to be misleading so much as English and maybe even computer illiterate. Could be wrong though, maybe she'd just say anything to get that $95.
Linus: dont know why they weren't upfront about that.
Sales lady: errrrm. It play game
Would you pay $100 for a Chinese Salvage Motherboard?? *Corsair* did..
I wouldn't, $50 is my upper limit. Same limit for a 22 core xeon.
Next Scrapyard Wars: Chinese Only Parts!
That could be interesting.
Can only use Wish and AliExpress
Got that new 8 Cor X86 chip....Lenovo is going to be using them.
make this
...Tbh nearly every parts of a pc are directly coming from a chinese factory but the component in it might not, including this used X79 chipset. Which mean it's hard to decide what can be called a chinese part and what can not.
Totally missing the point of these boards is to use the 6-10 core cheap Xeons.
Yup. And even on an older server motherboard (C602/604 chipset) you can boot from NVMe. Edit the UEFI if you're ballsy, find a 950 PRO or Plextor M8 if you just want it to work out of the box.
Brian Yurkanin except he kinda touched on that later in the video when he did some quick Craigslist checking.
so he didn't entirely miss the point. he just didn't come to the budget conclusion until later on.
Also giving new life to your cpu after the old X79 board dies.. Damn things are pricey even used, I saw something comparable (no name brand) on new egg so their out there for sure!
@@sheik124 I am still getting by just fine with my P9X79 WS, which I originally bought because at the time it was one of Linus's favorite boards, when he was still reviewing mobos; the video is still on here somewhere. After some research I was able to find some custom BIOSs for that board that enabled NVMe boot support, and it worked like a charm. With 7 PCI-E full length slots the expandability is great. Right now I mostly rely on single thread performance so I'm using a 4820k OC'd to 4.5 Ghz but the same socket will accept up to a 12 core Xeon. Before I went with the BIOS flash I just used an M.2 SATA drive which has the same overall speeds but far better IOPS, so that's an option.
The problem is the GOOD X79 boards and CPUs are not actually cheap (if you want the extreme editions or the high core count Xeons they are as much as a modern CPU), and you are really better off buying new. I spent $300 on my P9X79 and that was only a few years ago, only because I couldn't afford a complete upgrade for a workstation board. Was the day I realized just how important not skimping on your mobo is if you're a serious power user.
So I wouldn't really suggest this for someone building a new rig, but X79 is still a super powerful platform for the right uses and just because it's nearly 10 year old hardware doesn't mean it still can't pack some serious power. They make absolutely fantastic server platforms too, great way to re-use your old hardware.
Cheap Xeons AND DDR3 ECC RAMs,since they are cheap too,and these X79 usually takes them since they were server boards that uses ECC.
I love the "Reduce, Re-use, Recycle" aspect of these mobos. It's so refreshing in a throw away society. I also love the attitude of "Oh you aren't supposed to do this? You say you can't do this? Whatever, we did it anyway. And it works. Haters gonna hate."
Makes me wanna build and resell cheap gaming PCs with used parts, these poor chips in dusty warehouses need a home~
Wish this was the norm. There is a legislation for right to repair for users. If this passes, it will be the first step to abolishing the built-in expiry dates into electronics.
I literally just replaced my old HEDT workstation (X79 / i73930k) with a ryzen rig (yesterday!) . I Bought it back in 2013 and overclocked it from day one....and still works perfectly! It will continue its life as a media center and a retro gaming rig (mame, 8bit/16bit emulators).
If they were reusing old motherboards I would say yes. But they're making new boards with old chips... how much material is used to create a few chips, compared to a giant circuit board with metal connectors all over? It might be a good way to save *money* however.
linus reviewed a mobo that had support for like three generations of intel chip iirc on a chipset that "officially" didn't support those chips.
I think it was titled intel lied or something.
Linus: What can you tell me about this motherboard?
Sales rep: Yes.
This girl is the embodiment of the Yes meme
Lol🤣
Lyirianna Trouffarld
Your Chinese must be better than her English, Right?
Lyirianna Trouffarld this girl will happy if someone speak chinese in the booth.
Lyirianna Trouffarld go to China and try speaking English. You racist prick. Typical American ignorant. Acting like America is the centre of the universe
@@0401412740 Something wrong with your eyes?
"This Motherboard can work for the game" Shut up and take my money!
Lmao
Maximum GAME
I've heard enough. Three please.
😂
_«What can you tell me about this motherboard?»_
_«Yes.»_
0:51
Oh, Dr IP wrote it afore me...
And I did before him lmao it's ok. Surprisingly I got about 900 likes
< What kind of individual still uses the word afore? >
< In a Viking movie, the King of Wessex said: I washed my hands afore supper >
@@ruemignon Me, lol.
@@ΔημήτρηςΤσανακτσής-ν2η **shrugs**
It can work for the game. take my money!
-"but where do you get x79 chipsets?"
.
-"Yes"
That's quite literally a meme
@@etlttc353 maybe she invented it
All recycled Server board, Chinese remove it and re-purpose
"Made in China" (not the products, rather the statement...)
Brazilian here, theres a lot of people importing these bizarre mobos and processors from Aliexpress. I even saw a dual chip mobo, very cheap.
Saw a lot of russians reviews in aliexpress too.
Basically two reasons: 1 - As Linus said: cheap option.
2 - Brazilians custom dont tax anything under 100 USD, so, brazilians import everything separately.
even though im not brazilian i can confirm this, its better to just directly import them from aliexpress instead of buying locally because they inflate the price like 1.5-2x
@sol badguy but 6 cores & 12 threads for a total of more or less $100 is a good deal
@sol badguy well the logic behind it is ppl that buy these have limited budget and isnt likely to upgrade any time soon (in the time span of 3 years or so which currently released platform will be obsolete anyway),
its better in their mind to buy an older near TOTL platform for cheap rather than new but entry level for the same price
@sol badguy Sandy supported sse 4.2, mostly AMD processors were behind on instruction sets, the phenom II notable for being the most "modern" cpu to suffer from patchy game support.
The dual cpu ones must really be c602's or something rather than x79. AFAIK the x79 chipset doesn't support QPI for multi cpu support
"Where do you get X79 chipsets?"
"Yes, yes, chipsets. Chipsets. Here is CPU."
She should have said... Board not sucky sucky its 95 dolla
@@mcf3778 im asian and this made me laugh hahahaha that racist! hahaha
@I pfft, i doubt the average best buy rep could point out the chipset cpu sockets. let alone count to four memory slots.
@@tripodal69 calling out a bestbuy employee is the same as having car talks with an autozone employee... Neither has a job based on knowledge
Lmfao
"Linus - So where do you get X79 chipsets?
Rep - Yea, chipsets...chipsets, and there CPU." xD
I think you meant "their", not there.
Pwnstar *thare
This was the best answer, but not many noticed it
@@Pwnstared ?
@@alizarafar6953 Some times chipsets have a CPU already in it. So it would be their CPU. The chipset's CPU.
I only see good things with this. It's cheap, it works better than the original as it now can handle M.2 SSD and it is based on recycled parts.
and it's a source of motherboards that didn't exist when i had the choice of a £300 replacement or a £50 patch-job 2 years ago.
In fact, in China this motherboard is only 70 USD.If you would like to purchase a completely used。It could have been cheaper.It is also possible to useE5
i just bought 2 cpu board from aliexpress with 16 gb RAM. kill me, but its ~100$
@@刘先生-x1j it is supposed to use E5
bad thing is - it's non standard.
These boards are meant for the surplus of Xeon processors that have entered the market through depreciating server hardware from around 2012.
You should've paired it with the Xeon 2690 or 1650v2 which are both sub-$150. This way you also get access to cheaper used ECC RAM.
Yup. Everyone was holding out for a big upgrade and then Spectre/Meltdown happened.
Those old xeons are still good to have even after meltdown, but not for anything serious.
Linus: what can you tell me about this motherboard?
Lady: yes!
aha yes i would take everything with a pinch of salt with her answers i guess she tried her hardest to answer but if your going show a product you want soemone who understand the lingo
It's a repeat post but I laughed harder the 2nd time I read it.
More like yeah
As someone who runs a Facebook group with the question: "How did you become interested in analog photography" I have learned that people from Asian speaking countries don't really get 'when' or 'how' or 'what' or 'why'. They mix it up, or just miss out on the word alltogether. It does make for some hilarious responses though.
That was actually a pretty stupid quote you used....
"budget gaming system"
*puts Titan X in it*
Yes only saw what it can do in context of complete our breathing room
Titan X's are cheap as hell now. You can pick them up for £200, the low price of 1080 TI has killed the Titan X as a GPU platform. It is best for workstations on graphics, CAD etc. If you have £600 to build a Workstation a second hand TITAN X is a solid choice
mwnciboo where can I buy one for that price
Thats what he calls budget lol
mwnciboo WHERE I NEED THIS
Actually, in China we use Xeon E5 and ECC REG memory on boards like that. That's what the boards are used for, it's just cheap and high performance. There are even many 2011 boards with H61 or B75 Chipset inside. Linus really should test them out.
In South America they should also doing like that, nobody uses i7 on it. Maybe that's the only board who have experienced that high-grade treatment XD.
X99 magic in 2022.
@@yuxuanhuang3523 yoooo
@@yuxuanhuang3523 just got my 10 bucks xeon and never have been so hapy with a pc
So here in Brazil, i know so many people who use a X99 motherboard and a Xeon, and every one buys it from Aliexpress, and if you have a new Ryzen or a new Intel Core, it's pretty much over the top, because a upgrade with a Intel Core i7 8800k for example with 16gbs of memory, costs double then a X99 motherboard with a Xeon V3 and 16gbs of ddr4 memory
I have the same setup super budget friendly.
Linus keeps going on about being told that Intel stills makes that chipset when it's obvious that rep had no idea about what he was saying lol
Ik lol even me a rookie understood more than her.
Clearly he's not used to talking to someone who doesn't speak English as their first language. He's not picking up on the fact that she's only picking up a few of the words he's saying and basically repeating them back.
No bro. She just didn’t know . Hahaha
@@jgon12 What? You're confused. It has nothing to do with her knowledge of computers and/or computer hardware, it has to do with her knowledge of the English language.
@@xenonram I agree!
Doesn't seem legit, but I gotta admit, if they're recycling old/used computer parts and bundling them together for sale to people in poorer nations, it's not actually a bad idea and a win win for everyone.
IF they were bring honest about that lol! I'm hoping it was just a con rep that didn't fully know what they were talking about (pretty common at all types of conventions) and that they are more forthcoming with their actual business
Feels like a language barrier. When she said "intel, yes" I think she meant it worked with intel chips
@@BlakeDaniels You tell "
The British Patriot" about honesty.
As long as they swap out the capacitors I don't see why not... (Usually capacitors goes out first on any electronics)
@@AaronShenghao from my observations, they only take out the chipset, and important components that cannot be cloned, the rest of the motherboard is brand new
Linus: so what can you tell me about this motherboard
Chinese woman: Yes
I'm about to type this. World sucks a lot.
I typed it. Then i saw this. Fuck
This motherboard work for the game. There is the memory slot.
She did better than I would have if anyone ever asked me a question in mandarin.
Dont clean the fish in the sink Ying Yang. Do you understand?
.. yes
Linus- look in to bios modding these boards! There's a lot you can do with a simple BIOS mod, RAM oc'ing and bringing up CPU clocks primarily. They also support ECC memory.
Linus, the lady's English is not very good, she didn't understand your question. What she was trying to say is " chipsets brand is Intel "
o yea thats the only thing she messed up in the convo
I suspect that the lady's English might very well be perfect but she didn't know what to answer or knew that it was probably better not to answer and decided to stall instead.
@@SianaGearz That's also possible
Do you know what you just did? mAnSpLaInInG
reis keşke linus okusa .d
lol that was the best rep.
It's got chipset and a memory slot. that would be 95$ US.
That's how most of the Chinese reps are, especially the females. You're tying to buy a car and ask them to tell you about the car "uhhhh yes, this car, this door, this color, this drive long long distance."
I'm sold! I'll buy 10
Where can we get the chips ? Yes
Does intel still make these ? Intel.
Linus : wwwaaaaooooo
Yes
She surely didn't understand Linus's question on this.
@@coslove8866 And you surely didn't get the joke.
intel
He can't expect correct information from someone who doesn't speak English and doesn't know what he is saying
"I don't know why they wouldn't be upfront about that" Well I think the language barrier, and possibly technical knowledge, has something to do with that.
This is what I was going to say
Yeah, she seemed to be more of a seller than a proper technical assistant.
I think the word i was looking for is cashier, but im not 100% sure
@@Ferrari255GTO , the standard industry term is sales representative, or sales rep for short, but many companies (at least English-speaking ones) have come up with their own euphemisms, like … partners, teammates, team members, customer relations specialists, etc.
@@ExoticMerle i hate the "professional tecnical terms" and the worst part is that they are important. They are really annoyng to me for some reason
Is it me or that GTX 650 looks exactly like the $40 GTX 1050 scam from Science Studio? I mean, dat Nvidia logo tho
Because the fake 1050s are usually 550s or 650s in disguise I would think.
Because that's what those fake GTX 1050s are. They are GTX 650Ti with fake BIOSes. This one is just marketed as what it really is.
@@Dweller12Videos atleast they are honest, unlike some other sellers
@@Atreea they buy 650ti from them and rebrand them
TRUE
I didn't know aliexpress was rounding up sellers to have a booth at computex now.
And here we are aware of it's existence, iw worked didnt it?
"I only sign up to write product reviews in Chinglish. They bundle me into large box on third day on job. Now I am here at Computex and strange Canadian in sandals is asking me things."
Aliexpress is a marketplace only, the sellers are independent companies
There is also reason that desktop hardware, a lot of people who can't afford high performance computers like for 2K $. From simple reason demand increase for budget PC. I i also builded computer with xeon. Sometimes i have more fps at some games than at newest ryzen's and i7 machines. So we can have a great set today thanks to those people who making modern motherboards with old socket. I bought other motherboard which can oc cpu, ram and you can use SLI haha, Linus bought random one, better to look online at aliexpress, there is a lot of stuff with "x79" they use other chips, but it works the same as the original. On the aliexpress, description is much better what we have and what support's a motherboard.
0:11 the dude in the background is like
*"Ah shit here we go again"*
lol totally
lol, he run away when he realised Linus had starting recording :D
You know what Linus,this kind of X79 motherboard always match with a Xeon E5 processor like E5 2689 etc,and that's the real use of this motherboard lol
Indeed
totally, I was seeing how hard it was to get an 8 core 16 threads for some software I wanted, and I found these, instead of blowing the money on an i7 I can do this instead and have a ton of RAM for blender.
The real use of this motherboard is to give you PCIe 3.0 M.2 NVME on Windows 7 supported CPUs like the 39xx, 49xx, 59xx, 69xx with 4,6,8 and even 10 cores!
Linus, you can buy that motherboard on AliExpress named HUANAN X79 GAMING DELUXE, and there buy cheap server memory and processors, like xeon e5 1660 or e5 2680 for not high price. A lot of people buy this stuff for personal computers in Russia for cheap price and high level of performance
I thought professional usually use this kind of hardware for server work,
Is it really2 that cheap that common people starts using this
rather than normal price hardware.
and what do common people use this for usually?
(gaming/editing/office work)
whats the benefits of this level of rig for common people.
what level of performance can you compare this to in beginner's term (i7/i5 processors, Z390 motherboard?)
can you tell me,
I'm really not well informed on this topic.
@@RatchetRorschach yes, cheap render farms too
@@RatchetRorschach the main focus of this kind of hardware is build cheap gaming platform that goes along some mid and mid high graphic cards.. in most cases, higher core count doesnt affect much the performance in this situation, but the cpu frequency. so if the focus is gaming, better get, for instance, a 4 core 3.7ghz than a 8 core 2.6 ghz. but if you use some specific multi threaded applications than could get some benefits going with 8, 10 or even 12 cores.
Ratchet Rorschach well, kit from this motherboard + Xeon e5-2670 and like 16gb of ram will cost you about 200-250$, you will get i7 8700k like performance. I actually had a couple of systems like that, Asus p9x79-e ws + e5-2680v2 plus 32gb of ram, that was damh fast system, 3.8 ghz on 10 cores in 2015, after that a had x99 with e5-2683v3, 14 cores with 3.15 ghz turbo. And here we are, now my daily driver is ultrabook on i7-8565u with e-gpu:)
Ratchet Rorschach people use this xeons for gaming, work, it’s after all pretty much like a regular pc.
Southamerican here, can confirm that lady sold me an X79 as well.
x79 board here, can confirm i got sold.
Southamerican also: we dont do that here
por que verga hablan ingles :V
:v
Southamerican too X79 like Huanan with Xeon 2560 V2 are best economic choice to build a good computer for gaming, 3d, Work with images...
These motherboards can be bought from aliexpress for around 50$ and bundled with a 40$ Xeon (Like the E5 2689, always from aliexpress) to make a pretty sweet budget gaming bundle.
你一定是垃圾佬
你百分百是垃圾佬
垃圾佬好
just 68 USD can buy X79+ E5 2650 + 16G four channal memory in China，you got ripped off~~~ dont take it,welcome to HuaNan!
He know that he is after the strange motherboard for the video
But there is shiping charge soo yeah did i mentiom tax 95$ is not bad value it just like cmon buy am4 mobo is cheap
所以这块板子是他在哪买的？？？？我看见视频购买那一段那里出现中文，还是简体的。。。
@@sickguysstranger9294 看着像个博览会的东西
Link or isn't true
LTT : buys red 8K cameras
youtube : nah mate, 360p.
They make 8K videos, but I decide to watch them in 144p for the best quality
@@Safeboot *framerate
@@alkischrysanthopoulos5712 no
Beating a dead horse buddy. You people cant come up with anything clever
@@zuestoots5176 I know that this horse is basically findus right now, but if one people laughed at my comment it was worth.
The motherboard matches Linus's theme orange and black.
_THE MORE YOU KNOW_
Probably the only reason he bought it
He means that it isn't a coincidence and Linus could actually be part of the Illuminati
but he never said a thing about it
Can you please make high-res pictures of the front and back PCB and send it to Buildzoid (Actually Hardcore Overclocking)?
I would really apriciate that! :)
Amro AlwajIh sandwich would be nice.
@@RFLCTR My garbage disposal is a bit congested. Could you pick me up some laxatives?
@@RFLCTR Sure he could also take pictures of the instructions, or even better send the whole board, including the CPU, over to him, or even better fly him to them and make a collaboration! :)
@@RFLCTR Don Guru de Bro is some serious desperated dumwit raised from the subhuman fanboy base of Pietsmiet.
What is your name? I wish to send some dollars your way.
thanks god, the chinese still produce these motherboards for people like me in south america
Linus in 360p, oh dayum
Because it was just uploaded and the other 1080p formats still have to be come available
i thought i was watching a pewdiepie video at first
@@bonnome2 no fucking shit sherlock
Fak.
@@bonnome2 whWHAowh ReALLy?
Dear Linus,
Here's Kenny again, you're always my favorite TECH channel, but the truth is you really need to study more about Chinese TECH culture and products,
Just like last time I replied on the onda h310 Mb about intel lied.
I'm working with these motherboard almost every day to make budget build for my costumers in HK, I know almost everything about them
First of all, it's not anything new to see m.2 NVMe support on old CPU and motherboard, actually since sandy bridge, every single CPU that has direct access between PCIe lanes and CPU, a very little BIOS modification can make perfect support on NVMe, especially x79/ x99, these CPUs had 40+ PCIe lanes directly from the CPU, they can even support NVMe raid0, I'll talk about this later.
Second, In China, these x79 / x58 motherboard are even more common then mainstream MB and CPU, you're paying a very very extreme price for these MB due to the area you're in, the very best china x79 motherboard in HK and China just cost less than $70 USD, they have perfect support on NVMe/ quad channel 1866 ddr3 (ecc reg available for XEON CPUs) / overclocking ability on unlocked CPUs (e.g 3930k/4960x/e5 1650v2/e5 1680v2....)
Third, these are meant to use with e5 XEONs and ecc reg RAM to make budget gaming builds, instead of i7s. PC builder like me in HK and China can build a high quality 4k gaming rig with these MB within $800usd,
e.g
E5 1680v2 overclocked
MB like this one
8gx4 ecc reg 1866 ddr3
Vega64 / GTX 1080
NVMe ssd
And all other HW for a rig......
Finally back to the NVMe support, you're the greatest LINUS, you should know how a PCIe m.2 ssd works, it has almost nothing to do with the motherboard if you have direct PCIe lanes to your CPU, architecture like a x79 CPU has all the PCIe lanes you'll ever need, these manufacturer just pre-moded their BIOS to made it done, that's nothing really to be Surprised about, you're already very lucky to work with this model, it built with a real x79 chipset, most of the Chinese "x79" MB are built with modified sandy bridge/ ivy bridge chipset (e.g h61/b75/q67/c202...Etc), these Mb can't support overclocking and some of them will stuck with 1600mhz ddr3 although you have a e5 v2 CPU,
you really should work a little harder to dig more into these Chinese TECH, there are much more for you to be amazed, I'll leave a little rabbit hole here to let you guys to dig into, let's just say, PC builder like me can build an 8 core 16 threads higher frequency gaming rig with these MB and e5 CPUs that can play PUBG over 100 fps high settings 1080p within the budget $300usd...
You're always my best inspiration, I'll always love you all, thanks LINUS and all those made LTT the greatest TECH channel ever!
Wait one of the best X79 in China only cost $70? Is there any good board in AliExpress or Alibaba that we (non Chinese) can buy? I want to build a E5 1000/2000 overclocked system with these Chinese X79 boards but I don't know which one has the best or at least decent VRM to handle overclocked E5-1650 for example. Would be great if you can show us a which mobo has a decent VRM.
This post must be pinned!
@@NaoVII dear dreadnought, if you need to overclocking your 1650v2, there's only one choice form haunanzhi x79-p3, only this one has the real x79 chipset, you can overclocking with xtu in Windows, I don't suggest you go over 4.3ghz all cores with Chinese MB, although they already improve their vrm a lot, but it's limited settings Will affect your oc, my best record is 4.6 ghz all cores with stable temps around the system
@@kennyso7119 Thanks for the recommendation, btw I also found these boards:
- Plex HD
m.id.aliexpress.com/item/32797594279.html?spm=a2g0n.wishlist-amp.item.32797594279&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=8309amp-6DfMofnt-lGIdOD9gaF6LQ1562067812386
- Jingsha
m.id.aliexpress.com/item/33033648015.html?spm=a2g0n.wishlist-amp.item.33033648015&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=8309amp-6DfMofnt-lGIdOD9gaF6LQ1562067812386
Have you ever built a PC with one of these? Which one do you think is better? The Huananzhi one I found seems a little bit too expensive to the point that it's better to buy a modern mobo with that kind of money ($100) 😅
@@NaoVII I sometimes wonder why we don't get more companies like Huawei, which take parts built in China, pack them together and sell them under one big brand to the rest of the world, but do that for something else than phones. Laptops and all-in-one PCs would be a good example of what could make them popular. All you have to do to make them popular is to give the list of components which would be around as powerful as the thing you're trying to sell, as well as how much money people would save by buying the already-built product from you than buying all the parts themselves.
Yes... this motherboard can work for the game, yeah. There's the memory slot.
- Where do you get x79 chipsets?
Ah yes chipsets, chipsets... and theres the CPU
LOL, but hey she answered other questions quite well, giver her some credit, honestly I wish I spoke Chinese (Mandarin) as good as she speaks English!!
@@josevalenzuela142 i wish i could be this bad at my job and a foreign language and still to be promoted as a spokesmen at an international convention abroad
@@lizerlothdlb2389 It's not really abroad though, Computex is in Real China, presumably she was from PR China since AFAIK the company she works for is an aliexpress store; it's very likely they just didn't realize they'd be attracting attention from outside the Asian market.
I don't even know how to say "CPU" in Chinese. I guess it's kind of the 脑 of the 电脑.
@@CaveyMoth Chinese say "CPU",too.Or "中央处理器"
he protecc
he attacc
but most importantly
everytime Linus hold something in his hand i have goosebump in my back
Raise your hands 360p squad!
Lol 🙋🏾♂️
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Linus: What is this MB for?
Lady: work for the game
*Y E S*
It does thing
I think she just didn't know English that well
yes.. yes.. yes..
You just lost the game
when you're so early only 360p is available
That was he said
I watched 3 min of it in 360p PepeHands
I feel you
Mine isnt even working xD
10:30 pm in Sweden
"So, what can you tell me about this motherboard?"
"Yes."
They're idiots because they don't speak English 😂😂😂
@@MalengWan you're an idiot because you don't speak their language😂😂😂
@@MalengWan haha u can’t speak Chinese funny hahaha
@@GEFLAMENGO10 Second degree humor needs a IQ not depleted to be understood 🤗
Let's all appreciate how good lmg's 360p looks. It looks world's better than most 1080p videos of other youtubers
Linus doing damage control after getting chewed out by corsair for being realistic about their products
When did this happen
Mike Bresnahan Linus gave a good review for Corsair stuff. Now his review of the free 35in monitor that ASUS gave him was brutal.
@@haloreachisbae1943 in stream, he critizised their product value, because they use rly much plastic for their stuff, for a price, you can already buy full metal ones from ek and watercool..
@@starcitizen890j5 I thought he was pretty positive in his "review" of that monitor? If anything it's the monitor itself that's lacking, Linus clearly loved it.
@@Xenoray1 And how did Corsair respond?
Expected a rebuilt motherboard review, and got a Corsair water cooling review.
Indeed, but at least they commit it right from the... middle.^^
NVMe speed test would have been cool, since it was never supported on most x79.
You just use a PCIe 4x adapter if your mother board only has m.sata or sata3.
@@sang3Eta i get that, but what i am saying is that it was not supported on the x79. But that board has one on it, would have been interesting to test the functionality of it, since it was not officially part of the Intel chipset.
@@GeneralLeeIrritable Technically M.2 NVME became a thing with Windows 8.1 but Microsoft released Windows 7 support for LGA2011 systems with Windows 7 updates KB2990941 and KB3087873.
Hot man:So what can you tell me about this motherboard?
rtdvrtrt: This Motherboard can work for the game...
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I died
The funny thing is that when she said that, we assumed she was wrong and basically clueless. Then it turns out this motherboard can work for the game. Score 1 for the Taiwanese lady.
For me I will always do not buy China’s mother board because China pc manufacturers sometimes they will do some unique, Mother boards that may not support the pc systems just saying , that’s why always buy a normal gaming mother board or, none gaming pc from original intel 😅
@@sirsiri3548 but most of motherboard manufacturer comes from china. even for big brand.
@@sirsiri3548 Little did you know that almost all electronics are manufactured in China.
hate the game, not the player lol
"does intel still makes these?"
"yea yea"
"they still makes these?"
"ye yea yea (whatever)"
she probably thought he was asking if intel made them
0:20 Those gpus have the same shrouds of all those "chinese" knockoff that you can find on ebay that say that they are like "gtx 1050" when in reality they're just gts450/gtx 550 with modded bios on them.
I noticed that too! You don't need to put Chinese in quotation marks though, we all know where they come from!
@@H31MU7 yeah xD
That was literally the LONGEST intro on my memory on LTT channel. Good job guys!
Linus is so out of touch that he doesn't even know these are just a regular thing on AliExpress. I love that he is that out of it.
Is real?
I don't think he's even aware of the video wave surrounding these from last year. Most other PC tech channels that actually focus on stuff most of us can afford have done them.
I got a board manufactured by these guys about a year ago back when DDR4 was still way too expensive. It's pretty good, actually. The highest clock speed supported on them normally is 3.9ghz but if you flash a custom bios you can get them a bit higher. Keep in mind that there's no voltage adjustment so obviously these boards aren't designed for extreme overclocking, but you can get a nice bump out of them.
"I don't know why they wouldn't be upfront about it"
Linus, it's a salvaged Chinese board!!! lol
It's not a salvaged board. The board is new, but the chipset and CPU are salvaged.
Personally I would do some packet captures to see if it's sending extra data somewhere it shouldn't be.
Sure buy one now and I'll put in a FREE tinfoil hat
@@崔莱 Does buying this motherboard level up your social credit? Or you must manually ask communist party?
Don't think the modding engineers bother doing that but you can, lmao
Because Win 10 didnt do that by default...
This kind of thinking cause distrust sigh
2:22
linus: Rephrases all the information that the woman has given.
*No... i dont think she even understood most of the questions...*
Not native english speaker probably. I think this is in Taipei or something
I seriously thought this was a old video at the beginning 😂
360p
@@PlatinumGamingg ikr
I don’t get why this video exists.
Exactly my thoughts. I double checked the date to make sure I saw it correctly.
Facts
I really wish they'd tossed in one of the older X79 Xeons.
13:18 "That is a retro looking BIOS"
Literally what my current build BIOS still looks like... I need a bloody upgrade.
As far as i know these boards support not only Xeon E5 CPUs but also DDR3 ECC Reg memory.
So this board, an 8C16T 3.3GHz CPU like the E5-2689 and 32GB of RAM would only cost you ~250USD total which is incredible value for money
Coldministrator shhhh! Don’t reveal our secrets
How much would a full system cost?
That's what my NAS runs, one of these salvaged boards + E5 2660 v2 + 32GB DDR3 ECC.
I’ve got one coming in the mail
Yeah man, keep quiet! :D
Linus: Where do you get chipset's?
Lady: Yes! Chipset's!
Chipsets... You don't need the apostrophe.
@@liftedplane Yes! And CPU!
Linus: what can u say about this mobo
Girl: Yes
Linus: is it dual or quad channel
Rep: yea it has four channel
me: my lIfe iS a LiE
I guess she might be referring to 4 slots there, do they come in 4 or 8 btw?
4 slots usually 2 channel, CMIIW. If you want 4 channel (8 slots), go hunt an msi, gigabyte or asus x79. Go get a asus rampage if you could
@@rkadi6540 a lot of chinese mb supports quad channel with x79
there are actually better ones that do have full quad channel support and ram and cpu overclocking. and 2 m.2 slots, one for boot drive, one for wifi/bluetooth.
It is technically 4 channel PCIe 3.0 x4 which means you can run m.2 NME on Windows 7 LGA2011 CPUs.
L: what can you tell me about this motherboard?
Representative: Yes.?!
Anyone else feel like there might be a Corsair Rep with a club just off screen.
LINUS TECH TIP CLUB ONLY 49.95 AT LTTSTORE.COM
Yes..... Soo weird.... Too much talking about corsairs product
It sure beats dollar shave club
...and Linus, you did it all wrong.
For the last 2+ years people were building cheap pcs with cheap Xeon E5 v1/v2 cpus and these "Huanan X79" boards.
Yup. The value old Xeons can offer is extremely hard to beat. I have more X79, X58, C602 and 5520 Chipset systems a single Person can ever need but in total i probably still spent less than the average Gaming PC costs.
(Especially the E5-1660 v1 @ 4.6GHz in my LAN rig still got plenty of life left in it.)
Тупо пол России сидит на хуананах, а в мире даже хз что это
Long live x58 x79 x99
@@Coldministrator Finally, I feel that I know thing in pc linus doesn't know. 😎
I've been using X58 Xeons since 2013. My main PC has an Asus P6X58D-E motherboard, Xeon X5670 (6c/12t) @ 4.4GHz and 24GB RAM
I am certain she said yes to your chipset question because she just understood "Intel" 😄 and yes it is an intel chipset! 😄😄
Agreed :)
Many scam nvidia cards have that logo. Bought one myself said 1060 from seller. installed as 1060 with drivers but was a 650ti.
Hemliga Hemlig lmao
LOL first comment to make me laugh in this manner in a while.
Freaking budget clones of an inefrior product.
this has been a thing for a while, have a look at the channel "phil's computer lab" he's reviewed quite a few of them, including some x58 ones
Most likely he havent.
And he bought this board at CES in January. It has just been sitting around, as this is not a type of video where its really important when its showed. Its not about something new or exciting, more just a geeky piece about something funny, and that it actually is a thing. Most likely they have just had this and/or the idea on the backburner to pull out when they had a spot to fill.
Also tech yes city
you mean tech scam city?
@@bloodykev4419 scam?
Can anyone help me find one of these. amd one if possibly. It’s exactly what I need. So I’m begging for help haha.
It's been a minute since I've heard the gun reloading sound superimposed on when Linus flips out his screwdriver. Keep up the good work 👌
FYI, I'm running a NVMe M.2 on a Z77 Board.
Modded the Bios, added the needed drivers and bought a PCI-E Card.
True, it is just a lane. You just have to convey to the chipset "PCIe is a valid boot source".
People don't realize Windows 7 supported X79 for its high end gaming cpus 39xx, 48xx, 59xx, 69xx
Apparently in indonesia, core 2 duos are very common (also first gen i3, i5, i7 are pretty common here)
scamming on a budget tune in next week for our latest build and more
Wooaa
sandy and ivy bridge are not core 2 duos, they are core i3, i5, and i7s.
c2d and c2q, and some old 1366 xeons,and sold at a somewhat higher price (1.5-2x) price at local stores compared to aliexpress, sandy & ivy are core i series, not c2d
Don't forget modded LGA775 Xeon too
Im using a Ebay motherboard similar to this got it for $80, and a Xeon E5-2630, with 16gb ddr3 ecc ram! These builds are literally budget beast! running it with a budget used GTX 1070 also !
How are the frames? Able to handle high and max settings with decent frames?????
Linus: "Where do you sell the motherboard?"
Rep: "Sell to where?"
That's exactly the clarification that I also wanted. Not "AliExpress..." but "South America..."
Ahh good point
that rep at the the beginning was wholesome! she was 100% doing her best.
L:What can it do?
SR:It can do gaming
L:What else it can do?
SP:Oh it has a memory slot :)
Linus just doesn't know that x79 is the golden of budget PCs. X79 xeons are super powerful for the price. It's a really good investment.
Russian spoted ;)
@@cbuosi Not Russian... Quite the opposite side of europe
Vlad Lu hey, come back you
@@MegaShapin Haha 😂
I think Linus gets a bit jaded because he is constantly around not just the latest consumer hardware, but future engineering samples and stuff that outperforms anything X79 could ever do by leaps and bounds, and he does not really have price constraints. In the past he made a video about the P9X79 board from Asus being his favorite board yet, but when the next, faster platform is right around the corner and it's your JOB to buy it and review it, that doesn't last long.
Eventually I'll will be getting a 12 core Xeon and replace my server with this board, but for now, as you say, it's powerful enough to play the latest games at high or better settings (w/ RTX 2070, I sometimes do get CPU bottlenecking of course) at very high resolutions with all the background tasks I usually have going. The CPUs on the platform have extremely good OC capabilities and you can run some of them stable at clocks up to 4.7 Ghz. Based on benchmarks my 4820k is at least as good as a 6700K and close to a stock 7700K, even if it does suck up more power and put off more heat. For single threaded stuff there is very little performance change for the newer CPUs, as clock speeds haven't been going up.
i am using Xeon x5680, 24 gb ram, gtx 1060 machine today. very cheap
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Yup 4.2GHz x5675, 24gb ram, GTX 1080 here too. It's been awesome for the price (other than the bottle necked GTX 1080 of course lol)
That guy behind the stuff you were looking at was all smiles and was about to help you until he heard you talk.
Lmao, guy in the background at the beginning had no idea wtf was going on but he wanted to be ready 😂
I'm still running an i7-3930K OC'd to 4.5 Ghz as my daily driver for software development and gaming. x79 is / was a beast. Shame they long since stopped supporting it with drivers.
It depends. I'd do it if it was salvaged after you dropped it, Linus.
@Anon Commenter fans aren't safe from linus dropping em
How much more for the one Linus touched?
those boards have been a life lesson to me, when it came to gaming I wanted the best and top-notch specs, I built two months ago a 300$ system and it totally wipes the floor with the 1500$ system I assembled back in 2014. My expectations were surpassed (yeah the BIOS is no TUF but gets the job done, and they are pretty easy to mod
There's a hardware channel in Brazil specialized in x79 with xeon on gaming... It's called MW Informática
xeon*
weon
Oh shit... Sorry guys ... My bad... Lol
Budget build on this is simply OP. Cpu's for this platform is really cheap on Aliexpress, like xeon 2689 8cores/16threads, thich perfoms like -5% of ryzen 1700 only for the 60$ cost. This cpu has monster value and performing extremely well for its price. DDR3 ECC REG (its server only ram) is really cheap, so you can get 4x4 gb or 2x8 gb ram for ~40$. Quad channel does a great job on compensating slow DDR3 ram which often overperform dual channel DDR4. WIth BIOS firmware upgrade this board can overclock CPU and RAM easyly. Мany others Aliexpess x79 boards like green or orange Huanan x79, plexHD, kukete, kllisre, jungsha, thich are all very good choises, can overlock by default). Ram are usually 1333mhz overclockable up to 1866mhz, this is extremely important, especially for extra cheap builds on only 2 channel x79 boards.
Other good price/perfomance CPU models are:
2640 32nm 6 cores/12 threads 2.5ghz turbo boost 3.0ghz 20$
2620v2 22nm 6 cores/12 threads 2.1ghz turbo boost 2.6ghz 19$
1620 32nm 4 cores/8 threads 3.6ghz turbo boost 3.8ghz overclockable up to 3.9ghz-4.3ghz~ 46$
1650 32nm 6 cores/12 threads 3.2ghz turbo boost 3.8ghz overclockable up to 3.9ghz-4.2ghz~ 106$
1650v2 22nm 6 cores/12 threads 3.5ghz turbo boost 3.9ghz overclockable up to 3.9ghz-4.2ghz~ 146$
Basically v1 is Sandy Bringe(32nm), and v2 is Ivy Bridge(22nm)
So IMO if you are not afraid of Aliexpress of even Taobao, it's the cheapest) way to get youself budget value build in range of ~100$ for motherboard+cpu+16gb ram to ~265$ for stock ryzen 2600 perfomance and 32gb ram.
Thanks for your info, I might get this setup since I'm still on a 3570K and the upgrade price/performance ratio makes it worth it.
"it can do game"
well linus, im sold ill take 3 please
Linus channel + "Chinese" word in the title = grab popcorn 🍿 and sit back