What could any atty for the Eagle's or Henley say?? The vocal waves were virtually identical. All it would do is have it validated in court, when a court agrees it was a pre-recorded vocal. And FAR more people are likely to hear about it then, then those of us wise enough to follow Fil lol ETA and that likely would open the door to countless people who paid big bux for tickets into a class action lawsuit saying they paid to hear live vocals. It could potentially lead to a huge, expensive mess! Especially since Fil proves the point. They would be smart to ignore and pray people don't hear about it
I saw Fil's video (I have been subscribed to him for years). He does a great job in his all of his videos to show the greatness of so many performers. Love his videos on so many great guitar players, and vocalists. He really tends to be complimentary. Even in his analysis of the Eagle's vocals, he was not condemning, he only showed the facts.
Henelys performance of Desperado in 2023 was 98% identical to his performance of the same song in 2024. In the studio, it's likely some effects were added to the Henley vocal to make it sound live. Fil Henley of wings of Pegasus is exacting in his song analyzes. All those people who spent money to see the eagles perform live we're cheated by Henley (perhaps others) by Don not doing his job and miming another version of Desperado. If I'd been there and paid, I'd be absolutely livid. Thanks Fil and Wings of Pegasus. And thanks to this channel for joining in, adding an extra voice to the eagles participating in something that should be against the law.
That sounds as absurd as the time Saul Zaentz sued John Fogerty for plagiarizing his older songs just because John didn’t have ownership over his original catalogue that Saul purchased. He criticized Fogerty for creating songs that sounded too much like himself and even the judge felt confused
After they unceremoniously threw Don Felder out of the band, I never cared to see them play live again. I always loved the Felder-Walsh interplay and when that was gone, it was over for me.
@@roadiethegamecat4124 Frey and Henley attempted to sue him instead of combating back in say an interview response. If that is the direction they refused to take, suing Felder proves it right. They tried to throw out his original contract of equal cash to scoop more for themselves
I am a huge eagles fan and while i hope this is false the video I seen on wings of pegasus site is a well put together piece and knowing how the eagles deal with things I think the fact they haven't had this taken down speaks volumes,now as I said at the start I am a huge eagles fan, and there are 2 sides if the coin. I can understand. That using ba king tracks coukd give the fans a better performance on the night,but I woukd rather hear one if my fave artists performing live on the night with dodgy vocals than have them mime, nowadays fans are not allowed phones etc at gigs to stop videos if shows being recorded,I think it's time that some sort of legislation is brought in that if artists are doing a live tour they should be banned from using backing vocal tapes so the fan's are getting what they pay for especially with ticket prices as high as they are now
@@travisk4215Canadian Tire money. Its a chain of stores in Canada and they gave you paper money from their chain when you made purchases. Got a whole stack of it.
Lip sync or fake "real bands" like Journey with Arnel Pineda. All the same in my opinion. Don't get me wrong...I like Arnel, but it's not Journey. There's a market for these cover or fake bands and so the bands sell it. A lot of rich boomers want to re-live their childhood. Perhaps it reminds them of their first kiss, or first car. I get it. I personally wouldn't go to these concerts. I choose not to reflect back on my teen years too often because I tend to want to go back...and I can't anyway. Life is great right now in my 60s, so I need to enjoy the moment here and now.
Same with Steve Perry. I personally believe that's why Steve cuts his own albums, but never returned to Journey. Steve's voice is still ok, but I think it would become painfully obvious if he tried to sing songs like LaDoDa...that he just can't do those songs anymore. Most of these artists have tons of money, so I don't see why they do this sort of stuff. But hey...it's the people's money and they will fork out hundreds of bucks to see these cover bands. Honestly, I don't understand it, and I personally would rather see a tribute band because they are usually 5x cheaper. But that's just me I guess.
@@JohnBowl14690 Hotel California is a very good tribute band. They say they are sanctioned by Henley. I've seen them twice, will again. PS, first time, front row, $30, next time 3rd row, $60. ha
When did Bon Jovi say that? Jon hasn't retired from performing... yet! Plus, the band is going to release a new album on June 7. Are they going on a farewell tour? 🤨
I’d say context is required. A solo musician like Buckethead plays live guitar over backing tracks (the “band”), and there’s nothing fraudulent because he makes no attempt to hide it or deceive the audience. There’s no one on stage besides him, so it’s impossible for anyone to think humans are playing drums and bass live in his concerts.
Not true. The artist is there and performing live on stage even it is lip-synced. Its still a performance. How an artist presents live, is up to them. As it is up to the individual to go and watch the performance. Don't get hung up on using technology and post-production tracks on live performance. After all, the artist makes the music in the first place and produces the backing tracks. Many vocalist have ruined their voices on arduous live tours, after all, they are only human.
Depends on the genre. I just saw Gary Numan, and he was fantastic for his age, but his style of music has many layers to replicate live , even with a band. So some are obviously backing tracks or samples. The Eagles on the other hand are known mostly for their vocals and vocal harmonies and acoustic guitars , so Henley in particular deserves to be ridiculed.
I think if an artist wants to lip-synch, they should inform ticket buyers, so we can make the choice to attend or not. Full transparency is required, or stay home !!
I guess heritage works because at least one original is left. After that it is a tribute band or cover band unless promoted by the “Eagles” (rock band)* trademark owner. There is a TM & SM owner who can trot out any old live bodies to go so far as to lip synch & fake playing to backing tracks.** *As opposed to the NFL Franchise Philadelphia Eagles LLC which owns “Eagles” Reg’d TM for various sorts of apparel offered for sale in a “different market.” The Eagles of Henley is a Reg’d Service Mark owned by Eagles LTD in Cal. and covers “entertainment services provided by a music group in the form of live performances.” **”Live performances” under TM law is probably classified as a “service” and “live” would seem to include a living body lip synching in front of a living audience. There is probably a Red’d TM that covers the products & goods of music and entertainment distributed on tape, vinyl, CDs, streaming, etc.
Part of that falls on their greedy mgr. Irving Azoff (he manages several classic bands, milking it). Pushing them out on the road w/o Glen. For Azoff 30 pcs of silver isn't enough
Fil’s Wings of Pegasus channel is amazing, I really respect how he calls out things like this. He has done several things on autotune and pitch correction that also show how as music lovers we are being ripped off. As to the Eagles , I am a huge fan, but I do not see them as a band anymore, it's shameful if Don is miming and sadly now Glen has passed away, it feels like they have become their own tribute act. I would be happy if they recorded another album with the latest lineup and toured with that(with tickets that are actually priced realistically), but I wouldn't cross the road to see them doing what they are doing now. We need people like Fil and yourself to keep getting the message out there regarding how we are being duped, and we need the bands/acts to listen and respect the fans again.
I honestly don't think it would get the reaction you think it would. Back in the 70s-90s, sure, this would be sacrilege, but have you seen the younger acts of today, the ones people are shelling hundreds to see? With as much dancing and gyrating, you'd have to have ungodly breath control to keep pitch & tempo while dancing all over the place. Audiences today are used to act using backing tracks and probably miming, because they are entertained by the spectacle. Musicality and respect for live music were things that past audiences cared about, not todays' audience.
I am in your camp. I remember the Rolling Stones at the Super Bowl. Compared to earlier live videos quite a bit rougher at the SB. I think Stevie Nicks has kept it fairly real. Compare “Edge of 17” live at Red Rocks or at the Whiskey in the ‘90s (?) to Crystal Visions (Melbourne 2006) or at Chicago: not as sweet vocals as Rumours and maybe auto-tuned but different arrangements. (All/mostly available on YT.) I remember listening to an old Grand Funk RR live album on vinyl (parent’s) which on the jacket clearly stated the recording retained all the grit of a live performance - crowd noise, buzzing, etc.
People don’t like excuses , especially when they paid good money, they want to hear a great show , like on the recording , only louder . To do less than that , your ticket price would be expected to be reduced.
I find this particularly reprehensible considering what Frey and Henley did to Randy Meisner when he was losing his high notes on his signature song Take It To The Limit.
I saw the Eagles in 2019 but I worked at the venue so I got paid to see them. Most of the show I stood next to the sound mixer and I'm convinced that this is the best place to view a concert. The sound was like a record. Maybe it was!! I agree that paying for a live performance should mean hearing the artists perform live. I watched Fil's channel a few days ago and the similarities in Henley's performances proved to me he uses recorded vocal tracks.
I just saw the latest Wings of Pegasus video, in which he uses detailed electronic analysis of Don Henley's vocals for "Desperado" in live performances of the song from 2023 and '24. The Wings of Pegasus guy demonstrated by singing something twice, and showed how the analysis lines differed in his own voice, recorded twice in just one minute. Then, we see that a Don Henley performance from last year matches up almost perfectly with another a year later. Michael, I always like your commentary. I thought of posting a comment on one of your previous videos on backtracking, but now you've got this new one, which is another good one.
Thanks for the shout out, Michael! I figured you would do a video on this, and you did a superb job. The Eagles these days are a joke. Some fans can complain about Paul McCartney's vocals not being good live the past few years in concert (and on his albums) but at least he is singing live!!
Thanks again for that link Larry! It was perfect timing as I was already researching this fiasco! But you put it all together for me brother! Thanx! ❤❤❤
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLineGreetings my dear friend Michael. I heard today, that KISS sold the rights and ownership to there music for 300 Millionen Dollars. To a swedish Company. Could you please inform the tribe about it. Your friend from Germany 🇩🇪 Roger
Quit wasting your money on this BS. Artist There's a band called Greta Van Fleet. Cheap Tickets better live than these guys or washed up. And you're knowing you're getting a real deal. You will not be disappointed.
I'm pleased you picked out Macca as an example of authenticity in concert. It is my understanding that he also sings in the original key, although I don't possess the skills to know this for sure. The guy's a force of nature and I feel blessed to have lived at the same time and his former band, the name of which escapes me for now😉.
About 20 years ago when I saw them I was sitting next to the sound booth and was talking to one of the sound guys. They showed me the many racks of computers that kept the vocals in check. Basically on the fly pitch correction. He told me and I have heard it from others that work with him that only Joe Walsh and Schmidt could really do it live at that time and Henley and Frey for several years up to that point had been “enhanced” by processing.
Glad you and Fil are bringing this up. Some of these bands just need to retire instead of scamming the fans. The music industry is self destructing and has been for a while. Need to start all over again in the garage/basement and local 50 seater pub! Rock on!
I watched Fil's video on this subject and anyone who does not think that Henley is lip syncing should do the same. Thank you for this video and your kick a** commentary about what has happened in the music industry (with emphasis on the word "industry"). Most music today sucks because the industry want formulaic sounds.
@@RichardBond-dn2fi They won't give up that payday & fame. They get paid very well to be sidemen. Henley & Frey never made that Don Felder mistake again.
I stopped going to see the Eagles once the fired Don Felder, to me they stopped being the Eagles at that point. When Glen passed that just put the final nail in the Eagles coffin.
The way Fil breaks down any video is quite frankly amazing. Add to it that he's an accomplished musician himself makes his analysis videos that much more compelling. Fil has made it a mission to point out the state of today's music and the fact that most musicians and / or producers feel the need to mechanically alter EVERY singers' voices is a sad state indeed. As for Don Henley, why would it surprise anyone that he isn't singing. The mans 76 yrs.old touring day in day out was tough at 36. But this should be an eye opener for the fans, not just of the Eagles but of every band. Especially ones from the 70's & and 80s.
Fil from Wings of Pegasus is probably the nicest guy I never met. I only found him about a year ago. he genuinely comes across as just real, honest and kind. (recognizing his talent would need more than a simple comment here.) nice guy.
I wasn't aware that Rick disliked Don so much .. I've seen him be quite critical of Don for being one of the biggest blockers of using his music for reaction videos .. But I didn't know that his issues with Don were as personal and intense as you suggest.
I would love that too but I highly doubt that he will. Henley has deep pockets and could crush a guy like Rick. Best thing would be for hundreds of thousands of Eagles fans who go to their concerts to simply turn away from them. No one can fight the box office.
@@wayne_twentyfive Last time I checked, Beato was getting blocked/demonetised because he tries to claim 'Fair use for educational purposes'. Using audio for 'What makes this song great?' is not educational according to the fair use doctrine (Google it). Rick also makes it personal, not blaming the record label, publisher etc. and instead acting like Don is sitting there just waiting for Rick to post a video. Rick has a lot of great videos but needs to learn how to use TH-cam properly and follow their Terms of Use. He claimed he didn't know how to get in touch with TH-cam to dispute a claim or something and couldn't figure out how to Google to find a phone number. The guy knows his musical stuff but needs to learn about copyrights and fair use exemptions.
Thanks for giving credit to Wings of Pegasus. He is an amazing vocal analyst and his methods are scientific. He uses pitch monitoring software to analyze vocals. He has hundreds of vocal analysis videos. He is always kind and fair. He is extremely knowledgeable about music, and vocals and the physiognomy of creating human sound. He is also an amazing musician.
Since Glenn Frey passed away no it’s not The Eagles. They’re my favorite band. I’ve seen them 3 times; 1975, 1976 (the tickets were $5) and The Hell Freezes Over tour. I would not pay over $150 for a ticket today especially finding out Henley is not live but memorex. Henley has become so greedy. Thanks Michael for this video. Glad I didn’t pay $500+ for tickets.
It wasn’t the Eagles after Henley and Frey showed their tiny dicks by crapping on Felder. I’ll pay to watch him any day of the week, screw Henley - glad I pirated his music back in high school, he deserves it more than anyone.
The Eagles used to be my favorite band until I read Don Felder's autobiography, 'Heaven and Hell.' Both Glenn and Don had reduced their founding members to mere hired hands and cheated them out of millions. True, the music industry is a dirty business, but having also read Tom Petty's biography, I gained much more respect for him who bucked the system and treated his band members with the greatest respect while truly appreciating his fans.
@@bobl8183 - Yep, I always thought Henley was the biggest douche in Eagles, but after watching the documentary on them I realized Frey edged him out ever so slightly. Genuinely two of the worst people in the country ended up as partners in the same band. I like some of their music in spite of them.
You hit the nail on the head. No one in the media is calling this out and you have the apathy of the people paying to see these groups. I was hoping you’d mention Fil too. Almost everything is about image now and there seems to be plenty of disposable income for people to pay for these shows just to say they were there.
Shout out to Fil. He is showing the man behind the curtain. All of these frauds need to be called out. Thank you for picking up on this. Preach brother.
It's one thing to transpose your voice to a lower different key because you are getting up in years. But using backing tracks because you can no longer sing at all is complete BS and a slap in the face to your fans. It also reduces your concert to a blatant cash grab.
Michael your video made me look at recent live Eagles concerts. Yes Don Henley is looking sad, I noticed during Desperado he grasps the microphone with two hands (to hide the lip sync) and is heavily backlit. Maybe whats more alarming is it's taken a few years for concert goers to unpick this fraud. With Kiss it only took a few initial concerts of the EOTR tour for hardcore fans to pull up audio analysis of the concert sound. It revealed every concert was identical, and Pauls vocals never altered. As we all know the EOTR tour went of forever. This revealed to many when Paul was caught away from the microphone yet was clearly in the soundtrack or when the sync skipped a gear and the drumming track drifted from the instruments. It only takes one missed que to reveal the little man behind the curtain running all the smoke and mirrors.
On a pedantic note: the band is called Eagles, not "The" Eagles. We don't stick the in front of other band names: The Iron Maiden, The Nirvana, The Metallica!! Why does just about everyone do it for Eagles?!!
I believe its because the band is named after an animal or object. Like The Rolling Stones, Byrds, The Beatles, The Animals, The Blackbyrds, etc. That's my opinion.
I worked the Don Henley building the perfect beat tour in Memphis years ago as a stage hand and ran spotlight for the show. They were running samples for the background vocals way back then...
@OttoByOgraffey I sold pro audio gear at a renowned facility. My sales partner there serviced his and Frye. It was completely obvious by what the bought, how things worked. Samplers and compressors. ALOT of money spent for home studios. The two of them were fiercely, and I mean very fiercely competitive in buying. It was very tricky because if the NDA's!!
For the amount of money they're charging for tickets, the revelation that they're miming is an absolute disgrace. I'll be surprised if there aren't some class action lawsuits filed in the US after this.
Baby what a big surprise 😂. Oh, excuse me that's Chicago😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Somehow I kinda figured as much Micheal. Great commentary brother ❤❤. Shout to Fil too. He's way cool too.
I’m fine with an occasional backing track, such as a synth loop needed for a specific song, but lip synching lead vocals is ridiculous. This also removes any possibility for improvisation, since all tracks have to run at a specific time in the song. What if the guitarist wants to play an extra 16 bars of solo? Can’t do it, the vocal track is timed to come in at a set time. I’ll be saving my money for live bands instead.
Remember when Don got busted with two girls, 15 and 16, when one of them ODed? Ya, most people don’t because Don made his lawyer fix that problem. My buddy opened for the Eagles in the 90s. Said all the back up vocals were tracks and that they were all assholes
Been watching Fil at Wings of Pegasus for a few years now. When I saw his analysis of the Don Henley miming scam I knew it wouldn't be long before you were on it. People need to know what they're paying for. Thanks to Fil and the guy(s) that send the evidence to him and thanks to you for reporting it and bringing people's attention to the scam.
I’m a retired Audio Engineer, living in Thailand. Back in the 80’s I was starting, put in a show in park west, park city Utah, don was promoting his solo record “ building the perfect beast “, Danny Kortchmar, burnin lead guitar. Don utilized something called “ Lyn drums” a sequencer, sampler, for playback of the horn / synth parts on “ Sunset Grill”. My memories of him are pleasant, very fussy- professional. I grew up in Thousand Oaks/ Malibu, so I consider The Eagles to be “ My Band”. I was 23, graduate of “ Sound Master” under the brilliant Brian Ingoldsby/ Hugh Allen. ABC/ Dunhil- Gotham NY/ Scully-Neumann. I saw the first Digital recorder, called “ Sound stream”. 8 bit -4 k. It sounded fake. One particular Engineer, who chose ABC studios, was “ The Immortal Roger Nichols, “who Created those timeless Steely Dan records. Still used by the old hands when referencing Commercial Sound Reinforcement projects. Ahh, the good old days ❤️☮️🙏
The Eagles stopped being the Eagles when Bernie Leadon left. He took that great bluegrass sound with him..Saw them open for YES in 72 and they were great. Saw them 3 yeasr later and they had become pretty boring. Money does bad things to musicians music
I'd go a step further, They stopped being the Eagles when they "fired" fellow band owner Don Felder. The magic between he and Joe Walsh was lost, because even though Steuart Smith is good at his craft, he is not Don Felder.
They stopped when they crapped on Felder . Might as well say when Burnie left. Great music with originals plus Joe Walsh. Mid to late 70's . After that who knows . Certainly after HFO
I feel like all these touring acts are part of a money laundering ring for some unspoken purpose. It doesn’t make sense to be on tour at 76 years old. Knowing how the industry works, would not be a bit surprised
The fans themselves support him. It's clear they want to hear the songs, and then in their own assumption, think the miming is real, because the Eagles=good while modern musicians are bad. The masses really are simply irrational whiny little creatures.
I think they’ve been singing to backing tracks for at least 40 years . Remember the Eagles Live double album from the early eighties and all the re-editing and enhancement
In that case, it was merely because they're anal retentive perfectionists. I've heard bootlegs from the tour that spawned the live album and they sound great.
Great episode Michael, I certainly dislike the fact that so many top bands from yesteryear are out there touring ,charging top dollar with no or very few original members. To make things worse they are now resorting to lip syncing. If they can' cut the mustard, why are they defrauding paying customers and tarnishing the reputation of the original band.
Fil does a great job analyzing tracks with that pitch software, glad that someone forwarded his video on Henley. What we don't know at this time is it just Desperado that he is not really singing live, are there other songs and which one are those, maybe all of them on lead.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Great lyricist, fantastic (in his day, and as per his backing tracks) vocalist, and undeniably good (business) decision maker. Nice guy? Not so much. Man for the fans? Not so much.
There is no way I would pay to see such bunk, and I feel sorry that some find it acceptable to throw away good money on such. 63 here Michael and I try real hard not to play the fool, and it is obvious I am not alone in this, cheers fellow wise one!
There is nothing wrong with people paying a lot of money for a concert, provided they are told that they are really just hearing a recording. To withhold that information and call it a live concert is fraud.
Agree, Fil’s post was spot on accurate and concise. Also feel your frustrations with many of today’s artists Michael. However I would say you’re wrong and should lay off Paul McCartney. He doesn’t go out as The Beatles or Wings. He gigs as the guy who wrote/co-wrote classic songs of our times. Always like your non nonsense posts Michael, keep them coming 😁
I think the criticism towards McCartney was about ticket prices rather than miming or going out as 'Wings' or 'Beatles', wasn't it? Apologies if I missed something and have got this all wrong. Macca's voice is clearly not what it once was (surely one of the greatest vocalists in his prime, I would suggest, but not over the last 15-20 years admittedly) but at least the fella is honest in concert and gives it everything he has with his fading chops. No miming. Far more credible and honest than the Henley con, I reckon.
That's the link I sent, MN. Fil is excellent in his analyses, explanations, and sincerity. You guys should have a chat! Wild stuff. The Eagle has crashed, seemingjy.
Touché!! Just found your channel today. You were spot on about the Eagles! 🦅 1975 album encouraged me to play guitar which I still play today for my own personal entertainment. But come on we don’t want no Milli Vanilli going on after paying hundreds of dollars!!
A friend of mine for many years is in an Eagles tribute band. He has always sounded so much like Henley its truly uncanny. We are all getting older now, and just like the rest of us, his high notes are ruff, happens with age. It just does. I sent Fil's link to him. He was furious! Called FIL a Lil weasel. Lol. Swears if anyone can still sing perfectly, it's Henley! 😮 I used to sell pro audio gear in 1998, I knew this was going on with many big time singers, just by the gear they bought, ( in pseudonyms) of course, for their home studios, their production companies, including all touring engineers. We all had to sign NDA's, for certain clients. It's been an industry norm for a long time. Double edge sword really, how heartbreaking to hear them sound awful, as well as knowing what we now know. Some artists don't lipsync. Change the key is a better choice for me! We all grow older. Vocal chords change with wear! Lying for the big bucks, isn't cool. But oh well. I'm gonna say it, Henley has ALWAYS been a music nazi! Wink wink. It IS true.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine We work with what we got. I use a harmonizer, on stage, the boys can't sing a third up! I don't hide my little friend! She's on a table next to me! If anyone asks, of course I tell them!
It's Don Henley playing the songs of The Eagles. Another example is The Who. They should be called Who's Left. Foreigner is also not Foreigner. And the list goes on..... I would definitely rather hear the artist sounding not so good, as opposed to backing tracks. And like the Bible says, the love of money is the root of all evil. You hit that nail square in the head! I personally would not fund their retirement. I would rather go see the James Gang. They are all living, and Joe is about as real as it gets. Thanks Michael.
I don't hold it against Daltrey and Townsend calling it the Who. John and Keith are dead. I heard Roger still sounds pretty good despite being 80 years old. I would have loved to have seen the original Who. I play bass and John is probably my all time favorite bass player . A sonic assault on the ears and probably part of the reason I have so much ringing in my ears. Check him out on Woodstock 99 with The John Entwistle Band. They were just killing it!
You're correct, don't go, the BS will stop. I went to a CSN concert back in 2014 I think it was. While some of the sparkle was gone of course, they sang the songs using their real voices. They had a really great band as well. It was a fantastic concert.
The worst part of all this is when Joe improvises or adds an easy to sing lyric. It almost feels like the improvised lyric was only put there to say to the audience "Hey, this must be live cause that lyric is not on the album".
Queen would always play an audio track during the middle of Bohemian Rhapsody live, because there wasn't a way to perform it live. They weren't trying to fool anyone, they would leave the stage while it was playing, and then go back to playing live when that section ended. Totally acceptable.
Which is crazy. I have a friend who's the lead singer in a Queen tribute band. I saw them at a local club, and they did Bohemian Rhapsody totally live, from beginning to end. And did a great job. So I never understood why Queen didn't do that part live.
@@SuziQ. The point is, I've seen it done to near-perfection in a local nightclub. Live is never perfect, but it's MUCH more interesting to hear musicians give a live representation of their songs than to hear a backing track. Every band changes things live. The Stones had multi-layered guitars on recordings like "Gimme Shelter", and the live version is always an amalgamation/simplification of the various tracks, often with Keith's guitar in a different tuning.
@@aquamarine99911 , I prefer a live concert without backing tracks, too. My point was that Queen are not hiding it, and have explained why they feel like they can’t do the whole song live. As long as a band is transparent about what they’re doing, I’m not going to criticize them. I do reject any use of auto tune, because I find it physically painful to hear (as far as I know, Queen doesn’t do that, but aside from this song, I’m not a big fan).
Well done Michael. I watch Fil often and he is so spot on and may I add extremely fair. A few points. I'm with you 100%. I hear people say they went and saw a certain group and then I tell them that there's only one of the original members or in some cases none of the original members and they looked shocked. Do your homework people. Also shame on Don Henley for not bringing Felder back.
Hi Michael, great video and tip of the hat to Fil. I'm also an ex sound engineer and have observed that Henley has been miming for years. Notice how the big screens never have any close ups of him doing lead vocals? Audience photography allows us to see the scam at least and it's shameful! Felder and Meisner were victims of the greed and bullying of Henley and Frey for a long time. No idea how Gill, Walsh and Smith go along with the fraud. I had assumed they were all dedicated artists with integrity??? Great pity
My only guesses for those 3: 1. Timothy got chosen by Glenn to quickly replace Randy because he asked Irving about him and Irving said he saw Timothy drunk at a bar but even he questioned the choice and Goenn just saud hes sure of it. Timothy probably just is happy he had that lucky chance to land a spot in a great band and he more than respects Randy for the fact he refuses to sing Take It To The Limit 2. My idea of Joe Walsh continuing the Eagles tours is Michael's guess that he sees joining them as his way of sobering up and probably finds it easy to just stay with them 3. Vince Gill is star power. He surely isn't an Eagle from how late he joined
@Thomasmemoryscentral Hey Thomas, I was actually referring to Stuert Smith sorry, not Timothy B. An amazing lead guitarist and producer that this current line up is lucky to have. The abuse of Meisner and Felder is now well documented, but I guess in the drug filled haze of the 70's lots of unpleasant things were said and done. Just lamenting the loss of talent that this wonderful band once had. Cheers
@@chrisbarlow3594 Hi Chris and oh yeah, Stuart Smith. Some other videos on the Eagles mention him sometimes when people ask if Felder can return and Stuart is brought up. My guess for Mr Smith is he is a touring guartist with and for such a long connection, Henly at least is confident he cant step out of line to say no
Wings of Pegasus has a new video, in which he demonstrates more with that sound analysis program. He pretty much perfectly sings the same note 3 times in a row, and visually, the line doesn't match at all, due to the imperfections in the vibrations of our vocal cords. He then shows how a recording of Don Henley singing "Desperado" in 2015 (actually live), and it doesn't at all match up with three other recordings in more recent years (which match up perfectly with each other). As you said, Don Henley is BUSTED!
Another thing about the downfall of rock 'n' roll is where's the next generations?? Who's the next Aerosmith, Guns 'N' Roses, KISS, Alice Cooper, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Metallica or Scorpions just to name a few. There's none, that's why we still have the older bands still headlining festivals around the world. Nobody came to take their places, very few have the same magnitude.
Many, many moons ago ELO was accused of using prerecorded strings and other instruments during its "live" concerts. It was proven true and ELO's reputation (for their concerts) was deeply sullied. And then came along that wonderfully talented duo "Milli Vanilli." They had to give back their Grammy because they lip-sync'd *everything!* Now, "artists" have no issue at all charging $ hundreds and $ thousands to do the same thing. Words Matter --》 if it's a live performance, every single bit of that performance had better be LIVE. Otherwise, it is false advertising. But then again, does anything related to honesty matter anymore? [Spoiler alert] NOPE.
Milli Vanilli also had to refund concert goers and album buyers. They were forced to lip sync from day one. They had heavy German accents. I never liked them, but this example is what should happen to Don Henley (refund all lip synced concert tickets).
At the VERY LEAST, what should happen is laws should be passed that say that if these bands are appearing in different places, there should be a disclaimer that says "background singers are recorded", "instruments are played at times from recorded material", and/or "lead vocals are from recorded material". If they don't do this, THEN IT'S FRAUD!!!!!!!! You're paying for a LIVE PERFORMANCE! If they're lip-syncing or using prerecorded material, then the consumer should know that so they can make an INFORMED DECISION on whether they want to pay so much to see them. That seems fair!
The "Eagles" and I use the term loosely, haven't been the real band since Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner left the band. Everything is phony these days....
Not honestly surprised by Henley lip syncing - he’s a perfectionist so it doesn’t surprise me that he would go to lengths to miming to pre-recorded tracks. That said people paid for live so he should sing live!
Don Henley's Dirty Laundry being aired. Love it. Sadly, I did not get to see them before Glenn died. I did see them last year with the Doobie Brothers. Had this info come out last year I would have saved myself $275.
I saw them on the Hell Freezes Over tour, but even then I didn't really feel I saw the "real" Eagles. I was too young to see them in the 70s. I cannot fathom why anyone would go see them now.
Very astute of you Vin! The drama was alive even then! Watch the DVD! Don Henley calling the orchestra guilty of sounding too white! What a freakin’ joke! ❤❤❤
I certainly will Andrew! Thanx! I’ll even bet that you can see them for a reasonable amount! What a concept! 👌🏆❤ Post Script: Alright, alright I just had to check out Talon before moving on to the next comment Andre! You’re right, I’d go see them anytime! Thanx for the suggestion brother! ❤
How sad it is that a tribute band is better than the actual remaining members are today (and I'm hypothetically including Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmidt as "members," since they were actually on many of the original LPs).
@@EricSchultz-zs8hzYou can always find a group of musicians who can sound like the records. To each their own, but I don't see the point of paying to be a prop in someone's rock n' roll cosplay. I can play the record for free. 🤷 The worst for me is the Beatle tribute bands. They're always Americans trying to sing with an exaggerated Liverpudlian accent, the John guy is WAY too nasally and can't rock, the Paul guy can't sing like Paul, they're way too old... 😂
In his follow up video Fil compares a 2009 Henley live vocal track to the 2023/2024 vocal tracks and the difference is shocking. Way back in 2009 the vocals were "downtuned" so DH could hit the high notes , on the 24/24 vocal tracks the vocals are "uptuned" and sounding perfect. As an amateur musician in past days , I know for a fact you don't "uptune" the vocals as time goes on , it's 100% the other way around. Check out the follow up video.
As selfish as this might sound May, my only hope is if Henley is not changing his tune over hiring 60 people on a payroll to copy strike anything Eagles related on TH-cam, his death signals the end of that 60 people strike team because then he is not alive to fund their pockets.
The real scandal is Billy Shears Campbell singing the Beatles "Yesterday". When vocal tracks from the original album are compared to today's Paul. They don't match. Comparisons were done using an oscilloscope .
Using autotune, pitch correction, and mimed vocals is FRAUD. Shame on the great artists who have resorted to this. Most new artists have very little talent...everything is corrected for them....just like their mommies and daddies have done for them their whole lives.
Thanks!
Thanx so much for your kind donation Sherrilee! I always put donation back into the channel! Awesome!❤❤❤
I saw Fil's video. The fact the Eagle's lawyers haven't challenged him on his findings, proves it. Fil, ROCKS💪
Fil is excellent in his analysis.
What could any atty for the Eagle's or Henley say?? The vocal waves were virtually identical. All it would do is have it validated in court, when a court agrees it was a pre-recorded vocal. And FAR more people are likely to hear about it then, then those of us wise enough to follow Fil lol ETA and that likely would open the door to countless people who paid big bux for tickets into a class action lawsuit saying they paid to hear live vocals. It could potentially lead to a huge, expensive mess! Especially since Fil proves the point. They would be smart to ignore and pray people don't hear about it
Jethro Tull - We Used to Know = Hotel California. th-cam.com/video/93pKLKA1Vnc/w-d-xo.html
I saw Fil's video (I have been subscribed to him for years). He does a great job in his all of his videos to show the greatness of so many performers. Love his videos on so many great guitar players, and vocalists. He really tends to be complimentary. Even in his analysis of the Eagle's vocals, he was not condemning, he only showed the facts.
Henelys performance of Desperado in 2023 was 98% identical to his performance of the same song in 2024. In the studio, it's likely some effects were added to the Henley vocal to make it sound live. Fil Henley of wings of Pegasus is exacting in his song analyzes. All those people who spent money to see the eagles perform live we're cheated by Henley (perhaps others) by Don not doing his job and miming another version of Desperado. If I'd been there and paid, I'd be absolutely livid. Thanks Fil and Wings of Pegasus. And thanks to this channel for joining in, adding an extra voice to the eagles participating in something that should be against the law.
He should file a lawsuit against himself for the unauthorized use of his music in a live setting.
LOL! Now why did I think someone would tie current events into this circus of a story Sunshine? 😉👌❤
That sounds as absurd as the time Saul Zaentz sued John Fogerty for plagiarizing his older songs just because John didn’t have ownership over his original catalogue that Saul purchased. He criticized Fogerty for creating songs that sounded too much like himself and even the judge felt confused
@@Thomasmemoryscentral My comment is made in ironic jest.
Dang dude. Dang.
😂😂
And McCartney gets criticized for his current voice. For me, at least he is singing live!
Spot freakin’ on Martin! ❤❤❤
True. At least there’s that. His voice is deffo fading though.
I wish he'd rest his voice a little though. The man's compulsive need to work all the time is doing more harm than good.
Yes. I just commented on this video and said the same thing before reading your comment...
@@MrKeychange Three hour concert last time I saw him. That does not help.
After they unceremoniously threw Don Felder out of the band, I never cared to see them play live again. I always loved the Felder-Walsh interplay and when that was gone, it was over for me.
Felder wrote one of the best music autobiographies I have read. "Heaven and Hell My Life In The Eagles". If you get a chance it's a great read.
@@roadiethegamecat4124 Frey and Henley attempted to sue him instead of combating back in say an interview response. If that is the direction they refused to take, suing Felder proves it right. They tried to throw out his original contract of equal cash to scoop more for themselves
My thoughts entirely.
Exactly GoneGoneGone! Exactly! ❤❤❤
Same here.
Thank you for crediting Fil, it's a must see video.
No problem G! Thanx! ❤❤❤
I am a huge eagles fan and while i hope this is false the video I seen on wings of pegasus site is a well put together piece and knowing how the eagles deal with things I think the fact they haven't had this taken down speaks volumes,now as I said at the start I am a huge eagles fan, and there are 2 sides if the coin. I can understand. That using ba king tracks coukd give the fans a better performance on the night,but I woukd rather hear one if my fave artists performing live on the night with dodgy vocals than have them mime, nowadays fans are not allowed phones etc at gigs to stop videos if shows being recorded,I think it's time that some sort of legislation is brought in that if artists are doing a live tour they should be banned from using backing vocal tapes so the fan's are getting what they pay for especially with ticket prices as high as they are now
Fil is a master of track analysis.
The Consummate professional.
If these artists are going to lip sync then we should be able to buy tickets with Monopoly money.
Ooh! Nice burn Don! But also, all so true! 🏆🏆🏆❤❤❤
Comment of the month award
Is there another kind of money? 😉
@@travisk4215Canadian Tire money. Its a chain of stores in Canada and they gave you paper money from their chain when you made purchases. Got a whole stack of it.
Lip sync or fake "real bands" like Journey with Arnel Pineda. All the same in my opinion. Don't get me wrong...I like Arnel, but it's not Journey. There's a market for these cover or fake bands and so the bands sell it. A lot of rich boomers want to re-live their childhood. Perhaps it reminds them of their first kiss, or first car. I get it. I personally wouldn't go to these concerts. I choose not to reflect back on my teen years too often because I tend to want to go back...and I can't anyway. Life is great right now in my 60s, so I need to enjoy the moment here and now.
Finding out Henley is lip syncing gives me total respect for Bonjovi calling it quits because his voice is too damaged to sing.
Bon Jovi should of called it quits after blaze of glory
Same with Steve Perry. I personally believe that's why Steve cuts his own albums, but never returned to Journey. Steve's voice is still ok, but I think it would become painfully obvious if he tried to sing songs like LaDoDa...that he just can't do those songs anymore. Most of these artists have tons of money, so I don't see why they do this sort of stuff. But hey...it's the people's money and they will fork out hundreds of bucks to see these cover bands. Honestly, I don't understand it, and I personally would rather see a tribute band because they are usually 5x cheaper. But that's just me I guess.
BJ used to use tracks . Glad I never went to see them, and I was in a BJ cover band, we were good, no tracks
@@JohnBowl14690 Hotel California is a very good tribute band. They say they are sanctioned by Henley. I've seen them twice, will again. PS, first time, front row, $30, next time 3rd row, $60. ha
When did Bon Jovi say that? Jon hasn't retired from performing... yet! Plus, the band is going to release a new album on June 7. Are they going on a farewell tour? 🤨
Any artist who is lip-syncing and/or relying heavily on backing tracks, is committing fraud.
Boom! And spot on Dan! ❤❤❤
I’d say context is required. A solo musician like Buckethead plays live guitar over backing tracks (the “band”), and there’s nothing fraudulent because he makes no attempt to hide it or deceive the audience. There’s no one on stage besides him, so it’s impossible for anyone to think humans are playing drums and bass live in his concerts.
Not true. The artist is there and performing live on stage even it is lip-synced. Its still a performance. How an artist presents live, is up to them. As it is up to the individual to go and watch the performance. Don't get hung up on using technology and post-production tracks on live performance. After all, the artist makes the music in the first place and produces the backing tracks. Many vocalist have ruined their voices on arduous live tours, after all, they are only human.
Depends on the genre. I just saw Gary Numan, and he was fantastic for his age, but his style of music has many layers to replicate live , even with a band. So some are obviously backing tracks or samples. The Eagles on the other hand are known mostly for their vocals and vocal harmonies and acoustic guitars , so Henley in particular deserves to be ridiculed.
I think if an artist wants to lip-synch, they should inform ticket buyers, so we can make the choice to attend or not. Full transparency is required, or stay home !!
It's a Don Henley heritage band. People are deluded if they think they have paid a large fortune to see the Eagles.
Oh I like the Name Rick! The Don Henley Heritage Band! Love it! Sounds like a foundation! ❤❤❤
I guess heritage works because at least one original is left. After that it is a tribute band or cover band unless promoted by the “Eagles” (rock band)* trademark owner. There is a TM & SM owner who can trot out any old live bodies to go so far as to lip synch & fake playing to backing tracks.**
*As opposed to the NFL Franchise Philadelphia Eagles LLC which owns “Eagles” Reg’d TM for various sorts of apparel offered for sale in a “different market.” The Eagles of Henley is a Reg’d Service Mark owned by Eagles LTD in Cal. and covers “entertainment services provided by a music group in the form of live performances.”
**”Live performances” under TM law is probably classified as a “service” and “live” would seem to include a living body lip synching in front of a living audience. There is probably a Red’d TM that covers the products & goods of music and entertainment distributed on tape, vinyl, CDs, streaming, etc.
Part of that falls on their greedy mgr. Irving Azoff (he manages several classic bands, milking it). Pushing them out on the road w/o Glen. For Azoff 30 pcs of silver isn't enough
Fil’s Wings of Pegasus channel is amazing, I really respect how he calls out things like this. He has done several things on autotune and pitch correction that also show how as music lovers we are being ripped off.
As to the Eagles , I am a huge fan, but I do not see them as a band anymore, it's shameful if Don is miming and sadly now Glen has passed away, it feels like they have become their own tribute act. I would be happy if they recorded another album with the latest lineup and toured with that(with tickets that are actually priced realistically), but I wouldn't cross the road to see them doing what they are doing now.
We need people like Fil and yourself to keep getting the message out there regarding how we are being duped, and we need the bands/acts to listen and respect the fans again.
I so agree with you regarding Fil and his channel Martin! And thanx for your kind words regarding mine brother! ❤❤❤
I honestly don't think it would get the reaction you think it would. Back in the 70s-90s, sure, this would be sacrilege, but have you seen the younger acts of today, the ones people are shelling hundreds to see? With as much dancing and gyrating, you'd have to have ungodly breath control to keep pitch & tempo while dancing all over the place. Audiences today are used to act using backing tracks and probably miming, because they are entertained by the spectacle. Musicality and respect for live music were things that past audiences cared about, not todays' audience.
i want to hear the imperfections, the soul, live. Zero tolerance for lip syncing.
Yeah! Me too PseudoSun! That’s half the fun of watching someone live! ❤❤❤
I am in your camp.
I remember the Rolling Stones at the Super Bowl. Compared to earlier live videos quite a bit rougher at the SB. I think Stevie Nicks has kept it fairly real. Compare “Edge of 17” live at Red Rocks or at the Whiskey in the ‘90s (?) to Crystal Visions (Melbourne 2006) or at Chicago: not as sweet vocals as Rumours and maybe auto-tuned but different arrangements. (All/mostly available on YT.)
I remember listening to an old Grand Funk RR live album on vinyl (parent’s) which on the jacket clearly stated the recording retained all the grit of a live performance - crowd noise, buzzing, etc.
All I have to do is walk up to the microphone, and say I’m getting old, but I’m gonna give you the best I got, the people will understand
Bukkseye Ellsbyr! 🎯🎯🎯❤
Henley's ego is waaaay too big for him to even think about doing that.
Hmm, not for 250 dollars they won't!!!!!
Exactly, wow
People don’t like excuses , especially when they paid good money, they want to hear a great show , like on the recording , only louder . To do less than that , your ticket price would be expected to be reduced.
I find this particularly reprehensible considering what Frey and Henley did to Randy Meisner when he was losing his high notes on his signature song Take It To The Limit.
Great point. They treated Randy like shit!
Frey and Henley were/are bullies.
If you didn't defer to them, you were persona non grata in The Eagles. Good music, not good people.
I agree! Randy was my guy!!!
Kudos for recognizing Fil’s work on this. He’s a great guy with a great channel.
He sure is Allen! ❤❤❤
"They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast..."
Superb Sunset! Bravo! 🏆🏆🏆❤❤❤
Jethro Tull - We Used to Know = Hotel California. th-cam.com/video/93pKLKA1Vnc/w-d-xo.html
Saw the Pegasus segment as well and spot on. Just waiting for a top reporter with guts to own interview Henley and ask him directly about lip syncing.
I saw the Eagles in 2019 but I worked at the venue so I got paid to see them. Most of the show I stood next to the sound mixer and I'm convinced that this is the best place to view a concert. The sound was like a record. Maybe it was!! I agree that paying for a live performance should mean hearing the artists perform live. I watched Fil's channel a few days ago and the similarities in Henley's performances proved to me he uses recorded vocal tracks.
Spot on James! Well said brother!❤❤❤
A weeks pay for a lipsync show is a sham. No thanks.
Damned right Aaron! But these folks think they are a vacation! No thanx! ❤❤❤
I just saw the latest Wings of Pegasus video, in which he uses detailed electronic analysis of Don Henley's vocals for "Desperado" in live performances of the song from 2023 and '24. The Wings of Pegasus guy demonstrated by singing something twice, and showed how the analysis lines differed in his own voice, recorded twice in just one minute. Then, we see that a Don Henley performance from last year matches up almost perfectly with another a year later. Michael, I always like your commentary. I thought of posting a comment on one of your previous videos on backtracking, but now you've got this new one, which is another good one.
Thanx so much Eric! And I agree that Fil at Wings of Pegasus does a great job brother! ❤❤❤
Fil just uploaded an update, with more performances, and more examples of his own vocals, and how his don’t match.
But Fil did his demo acapella, so naturally the timing is not going to be the same.
@@lawrenceadkins2924 ,
It was just one sustained note.
What point are you trying to make?
Don Henley is lip syncing.
The "Eagles" haven't existed since their break- up post the Long Run album; only the drama of Henley/Frey. Good post, thank you for Fil's hat-tip.
BOOM! Well said Tom! ❤❤❤
Thanks for the shout out, Michael! I figured you would do a video on this, and you did a superb job. The Eagles these days are a joke. Some fans can complain about Paul McCartney's vocals not being good live the past few years in concert (and on his albums) but at least he is singing live!!
Thanks again for that link Larry!
It was perfect timing as I was already researching this fiasco!
But you put it all together for me brother!
Thanx! ❤❤❤
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLineGreetings my dear friend Michael. I heard today, that KISS sold the rights and ownership to there music for 300 Millionen Dollars. To a swedish Company. Could you please inform the tribe about it.
Your friend from Germany 🇩🇪 Roger
Quit wasting your money on this BS. Artist There's a band called Greta Van Fleet. Cheap Tickets better live than these guys or washed up.
And you're knowing you're getting a real deal. You will not be disappointed.
I'm pleased you picked out Macca as an example of authenticity in concert. It is my understanding that he also sings in the original key, although I don't possess the skills to know this for sure. The guy's a force of nature and I feel blessed to have lived at the same time and his former band, the name of which escapes me for now😉.
Canadian, aren't Fil's vids great? I don't catch them all, but love the ones I do. He works so hard. Take care, good people.
Great that you credited Fil. Some people pass this knowledge off as their own. You're great, Michael, and your presentation is perfect!
About 20 years ago when I saw them I was sitting next to the sound booth and was talking to one of the sound guys. They showed me the many racks of computers that kept the vocals in check. Basically on the fly pitch correction. He told me and I have heard it from others that work with him that only Joe Walsh and Schmidt could really do it live at that time and Henley and Frey for several years up to that point had been “enhanced” by processing.
Wow! Thanx so much for this additional information MrSupro!
The evidence is mounting folks!❤❤❤
No expert here, but DH never had a strong voice, seems unlikely his vocs would hold up so well.
Glad you and Fil are bringing this up. Some of these bands just need to retire instead of scamming the fans. The music industry is self destructing and has been for a while. Need to start all over again in the garage/basement and local 50 seater pub! Rock on!
I rather watch horse racing.
Thanx David! And a Rock On right backatcha!❤❤❤
@@terrencereardon6374oh ya. Drop a couple bucks on a pony and have some fun. I have spent many a nights at the track.
I watched Fil's video on this subject and anyone who does not think that Henley is lip syncing should do the same. Thank you for this video and your kick a** commentary about what has happened in the music industry (with emphasis on the word "industry"). Most music today sucks because the industry want formulaic sounds.
Thanx so much for your kind words GulfGal! And yes Fil is FAB! ❤❤❤
It's hard to imagine Timothy B. Schmitt playing with the Eagles since '77 and not being a full time member.
He is not an original member ,
The original members were Glenn Frey, Don Henley, Randy, Meisner, and Bernie Leadon
Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmidt both need to grow a spine!
@@RichardBond-dn2fi They won't give up that payday & fame. They get paid very well to be sidemen. Henley & Frey never made that Don Felder mistake again.
@@StaronWarner
Don Felder was not an original member but he was made an equal partner.
Wings of Pegasus looks at the sound waves and makes a case that is impossible to refute but the similarities are undeniable. Big fan of his work.
I stopped going to see the Eagles once the fired Don Felder, to me they stopped being the Eagles at that point. When Glen passed that just put the final nail in the Eagles coffin.
The way Fil breaks down any video is quite frankly amazing. Add to it that he's an accomplished musician himself makes his analysis videos that much more compelling. Fil has made it a mission to point out the state of today's music and the fact that most musicians and / or producers feel the need to mechanically alter EVERY singers' voices is a sad state indeed. As for Don Henley, why would it surprise anyone that he isn't singing. The mans 76 yrs.old touring day in day out was tough at 36. But this should be an eye opener for the fans, not just of the Eagles but of every band. Especially ones from the 70's & and 80s.
Fil from Wings of Pegasus is probably the nicest guy I never met.
I only found him about a year ago. he genuinely comes across
as just real, honest and kind. (recognizing his talent would need more than a
simple comment here.) nice guy.
I hope Rick Beato picks up on this. He hates Henley with a passion.
Haha. I’m sure he has seen it. I ll forward the link to him
So do I! An absolute, egotistical jerk.
I wasn't aware that Rick disliked Don so much .. I've seen him be quite critical of Don for being one of the biggest blockers of using his music for reaction videos .. But I didn't know that his issues with Don were as personal and intense as you suggest.
I would love that too but I highly doubt that he will. Henley has deep pockets and could crush a guy like Rick. Best thing would be for hundreds of thousands of Eagles fans who go to their concerts to simply turn away from them. No one can fight the box office.
@@wayne_twentyfive Last time I checked, Beato was getting blocked/demonetised because he tries to claim 'Fair use for educational purposes'. Using audio for 'What makes this song great?' is not educational according to the fair use doctrine (Google it). Rick also makes it personal, not blaming the record label, publisher etc. and instead acting like Don is sitting there just waiting for Rick to post a video.
Rick has a lot of great videos but needs to learn how to use TH-cam properly and follow their Terms of Use. He claimed he didn't know how to get in touch with TH-cam to dispute a claim or something and couldn't figure out how to Google to find a phone number.
The guy knows his musical stuff but needs to learn about copyrights and fair use exemptions.
The Eagles have become The Pigeons.
LOL! Good one Joe! ❤❤❤😂😂😂
Dead Pigeons.... 😮
When you’re done, you’re done! How much money do you need, Henley? Bow out gracefully.
I second you DC! What say ye TRIBE? ❤❤❤
He might have the same problem Dylan has “holding up his end of the bargain with the chief commander”
Well, deceit is one of the edicts of the “chief commander”, so this may be so.@@michaelwills1926
At this point it’s not about the money, it’s the love of performing.
Love of performing? That’s the problem, HE’S NOT PERFORMING! He’s on stage pretending.@@chloenkitty
Thanks for giving credit to Wings of Pegasus. He is an amazing vocal analyst and his methods are scientific. He uses pitch monitoring software to analyze vocals. He has hundreds of vocal analysis videos. He is always kind and fair. He is extremely knowledgeable about music, and vocals and the physiognomy of creating human sound. He is also an amazing musician.
I agree M0ody! He’s awesome brother! ❤❤❤
Since Glenn Frey passed away no it’s not The Eagles. They’re my favorite band. I’ve seen them 3 times; 1975, 1976 (the tickets were $5) and The Hell Freezes Over tour. I would not pay over $150 for a ticket today especially finding out Henley is not live but memorex. Henley has become so greedy.
Thanks Michael for this video.
Glad I didn’t pay $500+ for tickets.
You and me both Poet! ❤❤❤
It wasn’t the Eagles after Henley and Frey showed their tiny dicks by crapping on Felder.
I’ll pay to watch him any day of the week, screw Henley - glad I pirated his music back in high school, he deserves it more than anyone.
The Eagles used to be my favorite band until I read Don Felder's autobiography, 'Heaven and Hell.' Both Glenn and Don had reduced their founding members to mere hired hands and cheated them out of millions. True, the music industry is a dirty business, but having also read Tom Petty's biography, I gained much more respect for him who bucked the system and treated his band members with the greatest respect while truly appreciating his fans.
@@bobl8183 - Yep, I always thought Henley was the biggest douche in Eagles, but after watching the documentary on them I realized Frey edged him out ever so slightly. Genuinely two of the worst people in the country ended up as partners in the same band. I like some of their music in spite of them.
You hit the nail on the head. No one in the media is calling this out and you have the apathy of the people paying to see these groups. I was hoping you’d mention Fil too. Almost everything is about image now and there seems to be plenty of disposable income for people to pay for these shows just to say they were there.
Thanx User! ❤❤❤
Thankfully Elton and his wonderful long term band were playing live on his farewell tour these last few years
Shout out to Fil. He is showing the man behind the curtain. All of these frauds need to be called out. Thank you for picking up on this. Preach brother.
Yeah, I love Fil’s channel! He’s got a great set of ears Jeffrey! ❤❤❤
Does he still do music or is it all analysing vocals?
and they say AI is the problem, no, assholes are the problem.
It's one thing to transpose your voice to a lower different key because you are getting up in years. But using backing tracks because you can no longer sing at all is complete BS and a slap in the face to your fans. It also reduces your concert to a blatant cash grab.
Spot freakin’ on Gearjam! ❤❤❤
It's not even backing tracks (like an orchestra or whatever from the record) it's MIMING.
Milli-Vanilli Henley...
EXACTLY J! Ya nailed it! ❤❤❤
Electric Light Orchestra The first real fakes Of concerts. And that's Was. In the 70s.
Michael your video made me look at recent live Eagles concerts. Yes Don Henley is looking sad, I noticed during Desperado he grasps the microphone with two hands (to hide the lip sync) and is heavily backlit. Maybe whats more alarming is it's taken a few years for concert goers to unpick this fraud. With Kiss it only took a few initial concerts of the EOTR tour for hardcore fans to pull up audio analysis of the concert sound. It revealed every concert was identical, and Pauls vocals never altered. As we all know the EOTR tour went of forever. This revealed to many when Paul was caught away from the microphone yet was clearly in the soundtrack or when the sync skipped a gear and the drumming track drifted from the instruments. It only takes one missed que to reveal the little man behind the curtain running all the smoke and mirrors.
On a pedantic note: the band is called Eagles, not "The" Eagles. We don't stick the in front of other band names: The Iron Maiden, The Nirvana, The Metallica!! Why does just about everyone do it for Eagles?!!
I believe its because the band is named after an animal or object. Like The Rolling Stones, Byrds, The Beatles, The Animals, The Blackbyrds, etc. That's my opinion.
I worked the Don Henley building the perfect beat tour in Memphis years ago as a stage hand and ran spotlight for the show. They were running samples for the background vocals way back then...
Boom! There ya have it folks! Direct from someone in the know! Thanx so much John! ❤❤❤
Yes...
No NDA? I signed one...
@@sharonvalentinerexdo tell. What was your relationship with the band?
@OttoByOgraffey I sold pro audio gear at a renowned facility. My sales partner there serviced his and Frye. It was completely obvious by what the bought, how things worked. Samplers and compressors. ALOT of money spent for home studios. The two of them were fiercely, and I mean very fiercely competitive in buying. It was very tricky because if the NDA's!!
For the amount of money they're charging for tickets, the revelation that they're miming is an absolute disgrace. I'll be surprised if there aren't some class action lawsuits filed in the US after this.
Baby what a big surprise 😂. Oh, excuse me that's Chicago😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Somehow I kinda figured as much Micheal. Great commentary brother ❤❤. Shout to Fil too. He's way cool too.
LOL! And I agree with you Jeffrey, Fil’s channel ROCKS !❤❤❤
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine yezzz indeed my friend.
I love your humor, Michael. We all need to laugh a little, or, A LOT, in these sad times! You do a Really Good Job! Thank you.
I’m fine with an occasional backing track, such as a synth loop needed for a specific song, but lip synching lead vocals is ridiculous. This also removes any possibility for improvisation, since all tracks have to run at a specific time in the song. What if the guitarist wants to play an extra 16 bars of solo? Can’t do it, the vocal track is timed to come in at a set time. I’ll be saving my money for live bands instead.
Well said Charlie! I agree wholeheartedly! ❤❤❤
Remember when Don got busted with two girls, 15 and 16, when one of them ODed? Ya, most people don’t because Don made his lawyer fix that problem.
My buddy opened for the Eagles in the 90s. Said all the back up vocals were tracks and that they were all assholes
Been watching Fil at Wings of Pegasus for a few years now. When I saw his analysis of the Don Henley miming scam I knew it wouldn't be long before you were on it. People need to know what they're paying for. Thanks to Fil and the guy(s) that send the evidence to him and thanks to you for reporting it and bringing people's attention to the scam.
Fil did a bang up job! And yes he has a wonderful channel! I’m a fan NewEngland! ❤❤❤
Brilliant job by Fil. Proved Beyond Doubt.
This is the end of Don Henley as far as I’m concerned. I hope this video goes VIRAL
Well, thanx to good folks like you MJP, it’s off to a nice start! Thanx! ❤❤❤
I’m a retired Audio Engineer, living in Thailand.
Back in the 80’s I was starting, put in a show in park west, park city Utah, don was promoting his solo record “ building the perfect beast “, Danny Kortchmar, burnin lead guitar.
Don utilized something called “ Lyn drums” a sequencer, sampler, for playback of the horn / synth parts on “ Sunset Grill”.
My memories of him are pleasant, very fussy- professional.
I grew up in Thousand Oaks/ Malibu, so I consider The Eagles to be “ My Band”.
I was 23, graduate of “ Sound Master” under the brilliant Brian Ingoldsby/ Hugh Allen.
ABC/ Dunhil- Gotham NY/ Scully-Neumann.
I saw the first Digital recorder, called “ Sound stream”. 8 bit -4 k. It sounded fake.
One particular Engineer, who chose ABC studios, was “ The Immortal Roger Nichols, “who Created those timeless Steely Dan records. Still used by the old hands when referencing Commercial Sound Reinforcement projects.
Ahh, the good old days ❤️☮️🙏
The Eagles stopped being the Eagles when Glenn Frey died. It's been "Don Henley and Friends" ever since.
The Eagles stopped being the Eagles when Bernie Leadon left. He took that great bluegrass sound with him..Saw them open for YES in 72 and they were great. Saw them 3 yeasr later and they had become pretty boring. Money does bad things to musicians music
I'd go a step further, They stopped being the Eagles when they "fired" fellow band owner Don Felder. The magic between he and Joe Walsh was lost, because even though Steuart Smith is good at his craft, he is not Don Felder.
They stopped when they crapped on Felder . Might as well say when Burnie left. Great music with originals plus Joe Walsh. Mid to late 70's . After that who knows . Certainly after HFO
...and friends? More like hired hands that do what they're told.
@@MultiEviscerator Fingers Felder was in the way of MORE MONEY. One of the most greedy bands ever
He is 76 and worth 250 Million dollars I guess he needs the affirmation?
I feel like all these touring acts are part of a money laundering ring for some unspoken purpose. It doesn’t make sense to be on tour at 76 years old. Knowing how the industry works, would not be a bit surprised
250 million? bet its more than that
The ego is an insatiable beast
The fans themselves support him. It's clear they want to hear the songs, and then in their own assumption, think the miming is real, because the Eagles=good while modern musicians are bad. The masses really are simply irrational whiny little creatures.
I think they’ve been singing to backing tracks for at least 40 years . Remember the Eagles Live double album from the early eighties and all the re-editing and enhancement
Good point Taproot! ❤❤❤
In that case, it was merely because they're anal retentive perfectionists. I've heard bootlegs from the tour that spawned the live album and they sound great.
Great episode Michael, I certainly dislike the fact that so many top bands from yesteryear are out there touring ,charging top dollar with no or very few original members. To make things worse they are now resorting to lip syncing. If they can' cut the mustard, why are they defrauding paying customers and tarnishing the reputation of the original band.
Perfectly said Lex! ❤❤❤
Bob Dylan spoke about “holding up my end of the bargain” with someone he called “the chief commander” which to me is code for Ol’ Scratch
Fil does a great job analyzing tracks with that pitch software, glad that someone forwarded his video on Henley. What we don't know at this time is it just Desperado that he is not really singing live, are there other songs and which one are those, maybe all of them on lead.
Yeah, I subbed to him immediately just so I would be notified of future analysis’s on Eagle vocals Randy!❤❤❤
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Great lyricist, fantastic (in his day, and as per his backing tracks) vocalist, and undeniably good (business) decision maker. Nice guy? Not so much. Man for the fans? Not so much.
Props to you for the shout out for Fil at WIngs of Pegasus. He does the lord's work.
There is no way I would pay to see such bunk, and I feel sorry that some find it acceptable to throw away good money on such. 63 here Michael and I try real hard not to play the fool, and it is obvious I am not alone in this, cheers fellow wise one!
On to you as well Passion! You are a scholar and a gentleman! ❤❤❤
There is nothing wrong with people paying a lot of money for a concert, provided they are told that they are really just hearing a recording. To withhold that information and call it a live concert is fraud.
Agree, Fil’s post was spot on accurate and concise.
Also feel your frustrations with many of today’s artists Michael. However I would say you’re wrong and should lay off Paul McCartney. He doesn’t go out as The Beatles or Wings. He gigs as the guy who wrote/co-wrote classic songs of our times.
Always like your non nonsense posts Michael, keep them coming 😁
I think the criticism towards McCartney was about ticket prices rather than miming or going out as 'Wings' or 'Beatles', wasn't it? Apologies if I missed something and have got this all wrong. Macca's voice is clearly not what it once was (surely one of the greatest vocalists in his prime, I would suggest, but not over the last 15-20 years admittedly) but at least the fella is honest in concert and gives it everything he has with his fading chops. No miming. Far more credible and honest than the Henley con, I reckon.
That's the link I sent, MN. Fil is excellent in his analyses, explanations, and sincerity. You guys should have a chat! Wild stuff. The Eagle has crashed, seemingjy.
I thought so J! And again that YOU for the heads up! ❤❤❤
Fil stated that Don Henley "mimed" his vocal tracks, just a different way of saying lip-synced.
Fil is too polite to say it.
Yeah I concede to that ReddRocking! My bad! 😉❤👌
@@99somerville He almost never uses the words "lip-sync" or "lip-syncing".
Here in England mimed and lip sync mean the same thing
Touché!! Just found your channel today. You were spot on about the Eagles! 🦅 1975 album encouraged me to play guitar which I still play today for my own personal entertainment. But come on we don’t want no Milli Vanilli going on after paying hundreds of dollars!!
A friend of mine for many years is in an Eagles tribute band. He has always sounded so much like Henley its truly uncanny. We are all getting older now, and just like the rest of us, his high notes are ruff, happens with age. It just does. I sent Fil's link to him. He was furious! Called FIL a Lil weasel. Lol. Swears if anyone can still sing perfectly, it's Henley! 😮 I used to sell pro audio gear in 1998, I knew this was going on with many big time singers, just by the gear they bought, ( in pseudonyms) of course, for their home studios, their production companies, including all touring engineers. We all had to sign NDA's, for certain clients. It's been an industry norm for a long time. Double edge sword really, how heartbreaking to hear them sound awful, as well as knowing what we now know. Some artists don't lipsync. Change the key is a better choice for me! We all grow older. Vocal chords change with wear! Lying for the big bucks, isn't cool. But oh well. I'm gonna say it, Henley has ALWAYS been a music nazi! Wink wink. It IS true.
Great information here Sharon! I’m fine with changing keys, always have been! Thanx! ❤❤❤
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine We work with what we got. I use a harmonizer, on stage, the boys can't sing a third up! I don't hide my little friend! She's on a table next to me! If anyone asks, of course I tell them!
Michael..this is insane..imagine paying a couple hundred bucks and finding this out..should be able to sue..great video👍❤glen
My thoughts exactly Glen! It’s a crazy world out there!! ❤❤❤
It's Don Henley playing the songs of The Eagles. Another example is The Who. They should be called Who's Left. Foreigner is also not Foreigner. And the list goes on..... I would definitely rather hear the artist sounding not so good, as opposed to backing tracks. And like the Bible says, the love of money is the root of all evil. You hit that nail square in the head! I personally would not fund their retirement.
I would rather go see the James Gang. They are all living, and Joe is about as real as it gets.
Thanks Michael.
In the UK They are known as the two
Oh God yes! The James Gang! Ya hit the nail on the head CrossRoadCafe! Bullseye! 🎯🎯🔨❤️
Who's Left 😅
Technically they at least contain Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend for The Who. The guitarist and major songwriter plus the lead singer.
I don't hold it against Daltrey and Townsend calling it the Who. John and Keith are dead. I heard Roger still sounds pretty good despite being 80 years old. I would have loved to have seen the original Who. I play bass and John is probably my all time favorite bass player . A sonic assault on the ears and probably part of the reason I have so much ringing in my ears. Check him out on Woodstock 99 with The John Entwistle Band. They were just killing it!
You're correct, don't go, the BS will stop. I went to a CSN concert back in 2014 I think it was. While some of the sparkle was gone of course, they sang the songs using their real voices. They had a really great band as well. It was a fantastic concert.
The worst part of all this is when Joe improvises or adds an easy to sing lyric. It almost feels like the improvised lyric was only put there to say to the audience "Hey, this must be live cause that lyric is not on the album".
Great video
“Underage nurses to take care of his fading frame” 🥊 Dude you know how to throw a punch! 🍿
Got that one, did ya KingTrance?
I just couldn’t help myself brother! 😉👌🏆❤
That almost sounds like a crime. LOL.
Topless I imagine 😊
Lol
Just so none of them overdose like that one at his house. Thought he was going to jail for that but powerful people took care of it for him.
This needs to come to light. Don Henley should be ashamed. I saw the video that Phil on Wings...put out. He's great! Glad you're following up.
Love Fil on Wings also.
I agree Carol! ❤❤❤
Queen would always play an audio track during the middle of Bohemian Rhapsody live, because there wasn't a way to perform it live. They weren't trying to fool anyone, they would leave the stage while it was playing, and then go back to playing live when that section ended. Totally acceptable.
They weren’t fooling anyone. Henley is.
Which is crazy. I have a friend who's the lead singer in a Queen tribute band. I saw them at a local club, and they did Bohemian Rhapsody totally live, from beginning to end. And did a great job. So I never understood why Queen didn't do that part live.
@@aquamarine99911 ,
Wikipedia has a detailed explanation of why they couldn’t do the operatic part live.
@@SuziQ. The point is, I've seen it done to near-perfection in a local nightclub. Live is never perfect, but it's MUCH more interesting to hear musicians give a live representation of their songs than to hear a backing track. Every band changes things live. The Stones had multi-layered guitars on recordings like "Gimme Shelter", and the live version is always an amalgamation/simplification of the various tracks, often with Keith's guitar in a different tuning.
@@aquamarine99911 ,
I prefer a live concert without backing tracks, too. My point was that Queen are not hiding it, and have explained why they feel like they can’t do the whole song live. As long as a band is transparent about what they’re doing, I’m not going to criticize them.
I do reject any use of auto tune, because I find it physically painful to hear (as far as I know, Queen doesn’t do that, but aside from this song, I’m not a big fan).
Thanks for The Wings of Pegasus reference. It's a terrific channel.
I thought they were done touring by now. The continued pursuit of riches is tarnishing their legacy.
Oh they’re gonna run right into 2025 I bet! ❤❤❤
Well done Michael. I watch Fil often and he is so spot on and may I add extremely fair. A few points. I'm with you 100%. I hear people say they went and saw a certain group and then I tell them that there's only one of the original members or in some cases none of the original members and they looked shocked. Do your homework people. Also shame on Don Henley for not bringing Felder back.
Hi Michael, great video and tip of the hat to Fil. I'm also an ex sound engineer and have observed that Henley has been miming for years. Notice how the big screens never have any close ups of him doing lead vocals? Audience photography allows us to see the scam at least and it's shameful! Felder and Meisner were victims of the greed and bullying of Henley and Frey for a long time. No idea how Gill, Walsh and Smith go along with the fraud. I had assumed they were all dedicated artists with integrity??? Great pity
OK Folks! Chris here makes 3 sound engineers saying the same thing! Thanx for the confirmation Chris! ❤❤❤
Maybe a Rock and Roll hall of Shame nomination is possible for all these non-live 'live' acts from genuine music lovers like us?
My only guesses for those 3:
1. Timothy got chosen by Glenn to quickly replace Randy because he asked Irving about him and Irving said he saw Timothy drunk at a bar but even he questioned the choice and Goenn just saud hes sure of it. Timothy probably just is happy he had that lucky chance to land a spot in a great band and he more than respects Randy for the fact he refuses to sing Take It To The Limit
2. My idea of Joe Walsh continuing the Eagles tours is Michael's guess that he sees joining them as his way of sobering up and probably finds it easy to just stay with them
3. Vince Gill is star power. He surely isn't an Eagle from how late he joined
@Thomasmemoryscentral Hey Thomas, I was actually referring to Stuert Smith sorry, not Timothy B. An amazing lead guitarist and producer that this current line up is lucky to have. The abuse of Meisner and Felder is now well documented, but I guess in the drug filled haze of the 70's lots of unpleasant things were said and done. Just lamenting the loss of talent that this wonderful band once had. Cheers
@@chrisbarlow3594 Hi Chris and oh yeah, Stuart Smith.
Some other videos on the Eagles mention him sometimes when people ask if Felder can return and Stuart is brought up. My guess for Mr Smith is he is a touring guartist with and for such a long connection, Henly at least is confident he cant step out of line to say no
Wings of Pegasus has a new video, in which he demonstrates more with that sound analysis program. He pretty much perfectly sings the same note 3 times in a row, and visually, the line doesn't match at all, due to the imperfections in the vibrations of our vocal cords. He then shows how a recording of Don Henley singing "Desperado" in 2015 (actually live), and it doesn't at all match up with three other recordings in more recent years (which match up perfectly with each other). As you said, Don Henley is BUSTED!
And it was pointed out that the earlier sample was in a lower key...as you get older, you don't typically change to a higher key.
Love the shout-out to the Wings of Pegasus youtube channel. It's great and Fil seems like a really good guy.
Sure is Epeck, I so agree! ❤❤❤
Another thing about the downfall of rock 'n' roll is where's the next generations?? Who's the next Aerosmith, Guns 'N' Roses, KISS, Alice Cooper, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Metallica or Scorpions just to name a few. There's none, that's why we still have the older bands still headlining festivals around the world. Nobody came to take their places, very few have the same magnitude.
Many, many moons ago ELO was accused of using prerecorded strings and other instruments during its "live" concerts. It was proven true and ELO's reputation (for their concerts) was deeply sullied. And then came along that wonderfully talented duo "Milli Vanilli." They had to give back their Grammy because they lip-sync'd *everything!* Now, "artists" have no issue at all charging $ hundreds and $ thousands to do the same thing.
Words Matter --》 if it's a live performance, every single bit of that performance had better be LIVE. Otherwise, it is false advertising. But then again, does anything related to honesty matter anymore? [Spoiler alert] NOPE.
Well said NorthWoods! I concur! ❤❤❤
Milli Vanilli also had to refund concert goers and album buyers. They were forced to lip sync from day one. They had heavy German accents. I never liked them, but this example is what should happen to Don Henley (refund all lip synced concert tickets).
@@SuziQ. If they had actually sung it themselves, it would have been, "Don't blame it on zee rain!"
Spot on brother. Would the Eagles let me pay with Monopoly money since their concerts are fake too?
Oh that’s the perfect analogy IMHO Roy! Spot freakin’ on brother! ❤❤❤
At the VERY LEAST, what should happen is laws should be passed that say that if these bands are appearing in different places, there should be a disclaimer that says "background singers are recorded", "instruments are played at times from recorded material", and/or "lead vocals are from recorded material". If they don't do this, THEN IT'S FRAUD!!!!!!!!
You're paying for a LIVE PERFORMANCE! If they're lip-syncing or using prerecorded material, then the consumer should know that so they can make an INFORMED DECISION on whether they want to pay so much to see them. That seems fair!
We need a MEMOREX clause Tim! 😂😂😂❤❤❤
The "Eagles" and I use the term loosely, haven't been the real band since Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner left the band. Everything is phony these days....
Thanks for this. I agree that Fil has done a great job with his analysis.
Not honestly surprised by Henley lip syncing - he’s a perfectionist so it doesn’t surprise me that he would go to lengths to miming to pre-recorded tracks. That said people paid for live so he should sing live!
Thanx Dogpd! ❤❤❤
This should go to court. Awful 😞. Thanks friend letting people know.
Yes, a class action lawsuit by ticket buyers.
Don Henley's Dirty Laundry being aired. Love it. Sadly, I did not get to see them before Glenn died. I did see them last year with the Doobie Brothers. Had this info come out last year I would have saved myself $275.
I saw them on the Hell Freezes Over tour, but even then I didn't really feel I saw the "real" Eagles. I was too young to see them in the 70s. I cannot fathom why anyone would go see them now.
Very astute of you Vin! The drama was alive even then! Watch the DVD! Don Henley calling the orchestra guilty of sounding too white! What a freakin’ joke! ❤❤❤
I wouldn’t pay to see them. In the UK we have a fabulous tribute band called Talon who do their songs better than they do…check them out on TH-cam.
I certainly will Andrew! Thanx! I’ll even bet that you can see them for a reasonable amount! What a concept! 👌🏆❤
Post Script: Alright, alright I just had to check out Talon before moving on to the next comment Andre! You’re right, I’d go see them anytime! Thanx for the suggestion brother! ❤
Well played, sir, well played.
How sad it is that a tribute band is better than the actual remaining members are today (and I'm hypothetically including Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmidt as "members," since they were actually on many of the original LPs).
@@EricSchultz-zs8hzYou can always find a group of musicians who can sound like the records. To each their own, but I don't see the point of paying to be a prop in someone's rock n' roll cosplay. I can play the record for free. 🤷
The worst for me is the Beatle tribute bands. They're always Americans trying to sing with an exaggerated Liverpudlian accent, the John guy is WAY too nasally and can't rock, the Paul guy can't sing like Paul, they're way too old... 😂
Walsh played on 3 of the original albums...Schmidt, 2.
Hard to believe, 7 Studio albums in their discography.
The Police...even less.
In his follow up video Fil compares a 2009 Henley live vocal track to the 2023/2024 vocal tracks and the difference is shocking. Way back in 2009 the vocals were "downtuned" so DH could hit the high notes , on the 24/24 vocal tracks the vocals are "uptuned" and sounding perfect. As an amateur musician in past days , I know for a fact you don't "uptune" the vocals as time goes on , it's 100% the other way around. Check out the follow up video.
2024 is the end for many people who thought they could get away with being bullies until they died.
I concur Mayaram! ❤❤❤
Yep, they are dropping one by one by one. The really big fish are to drop later.
As selfish as this might sound May, my only hope is if Henley is not changing his tune over hiring 60 people on a payroll to copy strike anything Eagles related on TH-cam, his death signals the end of that 60 people strike team because then he is not alive to fund their pockets.
More important than their own Artistic integrity. Well said and I totally agree. I like your keep it real no bulshit approach. Liked and subscribed!
Welcome Tommy! And thanx for your kind words brother!❤❤❤
Henley is pouring his reputation down the toilet - very successfully
Henley a nasty bastard ! Ask David Geffen 😂😂
The real scandal is Billy Shears Campbell singing the Beatles "Yesterday". When vocal tracks from the original album are compared to today's Paul. They don't match. Comparisons were done using an oscilloscope .
It was the Eagles that started the golden age of high ticket prices, way back with their Hell Freezes Over tour.
Yes they certainly did FJCRod! Great point! ❤❤❤
Using autotune, pitch correction, and mimed vocals is FRAUD. Shame on the great artists who have resorted to this.
Most new artists have very little talent...everything is corrected for them....just like their mommies and daddies have done for them their whole lives.