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What hypercar would you choose to buy?
Koenigsegg Gemera, bring 3 friends as you go triple digit speeds!! Perfect road trip car
Is the Porsche Carrera GT a hypercar? if not then a Bugatti Chiron Pur Sport 🙂
Wouldn't do it.
Hennessey Venom F5 and (wait for the comments) SSC Tuatara.
Edit: Forgot some: GMA T.50 and T.33, McMurtry Speirling.
Defo not the rich man’s Caterham (read Zenvo)
I'm guessing Tim got a Terrific deal from Zenvo based on his promoting the brand. Pagani doesn't need his help.
and/or want
Terrific deal, yes, or straight up paid to pretend to have bought it, make ad videos about it which are so incredibly transparently bought, then give it back and pretending that he "sold" it 6-18 months later...
How clearly fake are his "Oh look, I came to this Cars & Coffee and someone just happened to truck in a Zenvo! I own one too, and I think it's the best car here!"??
@@pistonburner6448 my guess is the payment is the use/ability to keep/buy vehicle at severe discount after the promotional deal expires
Edit: I unfollowed schmee months ago, he seems like a great dude, but the constant humble brags became grating.
@@Pseedholm There are so many ways he they could be doing this. I suspect he was either given the car at a massive discount which he financed, maybe even at 0% through Zenvo or the owners' finance companies, and they have promised him a guaranteed sales price at the end of the contract term (probably 1 year or 1,5 years in).
So essentially they're loaning him the car just like any car manufacturer gives the press long-term loan cars, but they might've done this kind of contractual trickery to pretend he actually bought the car. Or it's straight up just a long-term loan and they're making all this "I bought a Zenvo" stuff up.
But he might've actually just got the car at a huge (absolutely massive) discount and he's speculating on getting at least 1/2 of the car's price back at resale. Now with inflation it's good to park your money somewhere, and if he gets a massive discount from a car company who think it's worth essentially paying him half a million or so for a year's worth of massive marketing reach, why not?
I want to make it clear that I don't dislike Shmee even though I don't like this fakery part of the business (though I do respect him less because of these stunts), and all this is only speculation, but I refuse to believe that it is in any way probable that he paid anywhere near list price and that it's not essentially a marketing deal between him and Zenvo.
I guess it's a massive discount on the MSRP to promote the car and the brand. And I guess it's working, it's got the people talking about Zenvo.
Not a fan of the Zenvo, but I really like the journey Shmee goes on with his vehicles. Great content.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Zenvo either. But it definitely seems like Shmee is betting that this car might someday be worth like $10 million (which is may very well be)...assuming he'd ever sell it in the future.
I am absolutely in love with the zenvo. Funny that people have such a different taste about things. His content is amazing indeed. Its just so relaxing to watch.
@@michigan_supercars6569Zero chance it’s worth even 1/10 of that
This dude speaks so eloquently. He has such an easy way with words and story telling. Mad respect
In the USA European voices are trusted more than American accents. Advertisers know this fact and have used European actors in commercials for decades because of it.
He speaks so jovially about the cars and situations they create, his happiness is contagious
Yet people are doubting if he bought it or not 💀🙄
@@amsrocks that doesn't really concern me! Not like he's swaying my opinion on what i'm buying next
@@anthonysmalawipredators8794 exactly my point but it does affect some cheap bastards who can't earn the same and say his father gets him all this
go watch his interview on drivetribe, very insightful
he has nice man boobs
Tim is a unique and special "car guy", a car spotter at heart and that makes him completely relatable. He gets just excited about seeing a special car as we do and that makes his vlogs just as enjoyable to experience as much as he enjoys the cars. One of the most real and defiantly a nice guy, with relationships he has made that has aloud him to drive some of the most epic cars in the world, and then share those with us. If you don't watch his vlogs you are missing one of the best TH-camrs on the platform. TY Tim and you deserve a 2mil Zenvo and I for one am excited to watch your journey with it.
@Jimmy Two Times I think it’s quite obvious what he’s referring to buddy.
@@jbphilly1234 You are obv. not a part of it.
@Jimmy Two Times lol you are funny dude. I do enjoy the funny comments.
Tim’s a cool guy and I like his content, but people don’t realize that his dad helps pay for a lot of his stuff.
@@carguy9292 At between 10 and 12 million pounds net worth I would be surprised if he needs his dads help. It looks like he makes close to 30k a month from just TH-cam not including his involvement in an finance company, sponsors, affiliate links, merchandise sales, brand sponsorships and investment earnings. it could have been at the start I guess but if you look up his financials I think the kid is doing just fine.
i always found tims decision to go zenvo kind of a weird one, but watching it being built and being driven on the rally definitely turned me around on his idea. seeing content on this particularly rare car and how brutal it looks to drive has been a treat
By his sales pitch it feels like they gave him a chance to buy some stock in the company
Definitely, he does refer to them a 'we' a couple of times here.
Definitely, shmee is a snake, theres no way he spent 2m is a car without getting something major in return.
I'm actually excited to know that Zenvo is thinking about a new model, and I hope it's something completely new, I like the ST/TS lineup, but I'm sure they can make something new and really cool, and I was surprised that he wasn't buying a Koenigsegg, considering he also has a very close relationship with Christian and the brand.
Always great to see Shmee!
Shmee150 was the first automotive channel I subscribed to.
My cynical side tells me that of all Hypercar brands , Zenvo would be one of the VERY FEW that would give Shmee a big discount in exchange of good media push.
Bugatti ,Pagani,Koenigsegg have rich YTbers coming at then asking for allocations.
Zenvo ,because of their terrible start, would need a famous YTber at their side trying to push the brand forward.
the cynical? -you mean the not so naive side?
I just love Shmee. He’s such a down to earth guy that shares his absolute incredible cars and life with us. I’m so happy for him.
This is a story some of us have been waiting when we’ve seen Shmee’s post at Ed’s shed.
I mean let's be honest here shall we. Shmee didn't buy his Zenvo for the sticker price (meaning more than 7 figures), however it's a "marketing deal" made with Zenvo DK team directly for marketing exposure. Shmee made a pretty good deal on his TSRS. He probably got 50% or more in discount
It will be interesting what the Zenvo costs vs Pagani etc when it comes time to sell. I'm guess most of the established alternatives would have substantially risen in price, I can't see Zenvo having that strong of a resale / retained value.
well, back in 2000-2010 Zonda was quite cheap, look at it now...
@@N00bira people are buying Zondas just for the engine. There are so few of those AMG V12s. Crazy that they’re now early 7 figure cars now.
So everything Horatio does is just a glorified crate for a V12?
@@JelloTypeR not even close to the reason why people buy Paganis
@@JelloTypeR not just for the engine. Zonda is just pure art on wheels.
Good show. I would never want to own one of those things (hyper and even super cars) but it was refreshing to hear someone explain his options and also express the fact that he was VERY FORTUNATE to be even in a position to do this. 👍👍
I really hope this gives a boost for Zenvo, such a sad start they had.
Good for you brother, hope you enjoy it!
Shmee is a storyteller…I’d love to see him more in this kind of format rather than the more chaotic typical TH-cam style
I used the Zenvo in Grid Autosport lately and it's a thrill to drive in the game. Way over the other hyper cars.
Awesome passion all around
The hate in these comments is odd
You’ve convinced me! My outlook on the car buying experience has changed and I want to be a part of Zenvo! Once I finish up my unpaid 30 minute lunch at my manufacturing job I’ll give them a call!
I’m surprised more people don’t like zenvos I fell in love with the ST1 seeing it years ago online lol
Wow, guess we found all of the Shmee haters lol. What’s the point in hating on a nice bloke just enjoying and sharing his cars. Humans are sad and pathetic, people can’t even see someone else doing good without getting jealous and pissy lol. If you are really hating on the most positive dude ever you really need to do more with your life.
Totally people can't grasp the fact that he might making big money in other areas and are like zenvo gave him a discount or that its a loaner when if u see how many people would by a 2 million dollar hypercar because a youtuber has one. Also I think he is making an awsome choice because he will be the prime customer for zenvo which isn't possible with other brands
Really who's hating? I'm reading comments they are all nice lol
One of the hardest working and purest, selfless youtubers I know 💯 keep doing you @shmee150 💯
@@danielgreensides8463 you've not reached the bad part till now then
The reason no Shmee fan can be a hater is because we’ve watched him from the beginning when he was just a vlogger flooding TH-cam with videos before ever showing his face, up to when he bought his r8 and his adventures, up to his first mclaren and all of the growth he’s experienced over the past…what 10-15 years or so?
He’s the pinnacle of hard work and persistence, and yet somehow he’s done it all while still managing to be a decent human being.
"i guess you get used to the internet where everyone thinks they know better and can't believe something they don't understand" Shmee150
The Zenvo gets way too much hate, I personally love it and think its unique. Glad to see some content with it
Who in real world would take Zenvo over bugatti, gma, pagani, ferrari special edition or Koenigsegg???
Tim is a legend. I love watching the processes with some of the cars he’s bought over the years. Makes me laugh at myself looking at cars on the Facebook Market place 😂
You can’t hate this guy. He’s so nice and proper and British. He’s just too likable and has the gift of gab.
A lot of people do seem to hate him surprisingly, but I've never gotten a genuine reason as to why other than "daddy's money" which has been debunked multiple times or "he's annoying" which is subjective opinion.
I've just chalked it up to pure jealousy.
Id love to see a cc850 on shmees channel. That car is built to be driven. So awesome to see him get a zenvo. I remember seeing a video of it on track years ago and thought it was so cool, amd now 1 of my favorite youtubers has 1 and drives it
I absolutely love zenvo,one thing I noticed today though is that the mirrors on the car are definitely from VAG group ,shame they didn't make new ones , bet they could have made them look insane too
its to keep costs down Lamborghini does the same and other high end companies
@Ethan_e39 I fully understand why it's done why make a new part when one just as good exists ,just thought a 1.4 + million pound car could have changed the caps slightly for aero or even just for looks to be as crazy as the spoiler
People who think Tim got a reduced price, or Zenvo "gifted" him the car for promotion clearly didnt watch the entire 'Road To Zenvo' and this video etc. There is no way Tim can speak with such passion and emotion for a car that wouldnt be his.
Out of all the manufacturers Zenvo is the one I see giving him a huge discount just for the promotion
That video introduced me to him.
Zenvo has been one of my favorites since the ST1
Tim's road to Zenvo series was always a must watch for me.
... authentic guy! A sober, rational, sincere explanation for his decision.
His business interest behind that certainly very good deal is obvious, so not really a subject to talk about - and he's addressing that with his story about the Veyron.
mate i LOVE that purple mate and the car looks amazing
This ended up being much more interesting then I expected.
Love hearing Shmee’s stories on here
That Camaro steering wheel 😂
I knew I had seen it before
@@slaynan421 the thing is, recycling parts isn’t a bad thing, but you definitely shouldn’t use a part like that in a key contact or viewing point. The steering wheel is your most basic connection to a vehicle so it better be nice.
The jealousy that some people have...lol
Shows why they'd never be rich
@@karunnagraj8249 lots of ego and pride
I swear man, so much hatred.
It seems they never create, only destroy. They find joy in the misery of others. I wonder? How many people even in this thread can honestly say, when I become an adult, my goal is to be poor?
On Twitter TH-cam comments Instagram everywhere
Everyone's always hating
Especially if you're making a lot of money
I genuinely think a lot of his haters just don't understand him
For example Manny Khoshbin or The Stradman don't get a lot of hate compared to shmee despite both having more money than him
It's because they are more open and tell their story from the ground up so it's more relatable and understandable
Shmee doesn't owe us his story but I also remember thinking he was the son of a rich Dad and found him annoying because of that about a year ago
Then he did interviews talking about how he made money himself and just was more transparent
And now I'm defending him in the comments section like his brother lol
He wants to separate his private life from online stuff
And that's fine
But it's so hard to hate on someone like the Stradman who shows you his gf, how he lost money on his house, how he lived outside his car when starting his channel, his whole house building process and so on
I like this version of Tim. He can be a bit marmite to me. But he loves cars. I love cars. I appreciate that he shares his passion and knowledge with us. He’s earnt his success. I just need to get over the envy 😂
The shmuseum channel is a much more enjoyable side of shmee to me, seems less coporate
This the kind of guy every car company wants to work with who highlights all good things & pushes bad things under the carpet
Great story guys. Thank you
It’s awesome he does it for the “experience” more than the popular car
Great interview.👍👍👍👍
Shmee is great, you can tell this one is really special to him.
great to see Zenvo keep it rolling after the crazy appearances on Top Gear back in the day. great looking cars
I think it's great Tim getting the zenvo! The youtube is saturated with all the other well known brands so it great to see the new kid on the block 😊
Brilliant man, the benchmark in this automotive industry.
no way would I spend that kind of money on that car….. considering the other options in that price range
It's pretty cool looking. The only thing I'm not a big fan of is the wing. Don't get me wrong I love active areo wings just that thing dances like it's doing gymnastics. A bit to much for me personally but that thing is really damn cool non the less
The GT version has a different wing.
That's the best part in my eyes
Hard to get my head around a $2m USD car with a turbo LS.
Well, despite what I think about the desirability of the end package, to be fair: it does have a massive amount of very high-quality engineering in it. They use lots of exotic materials, apparently they do do things properly, they test their product thoroughly, and above all they've created lots of bespoke in-house systems and tech. I may not think they've been successful in the end due to shortcomings in other areas and yet-unrefined areas, but there's no doubting there's lots of impressive stuff in those cars. Couple that with how expensive bespoke cars are nowadays and the price isn't that outrageous. _If_ Zenvo one day comes out with a new model that is much more cohesive and successful, then that might make very early Zenvos desirable and gain in value? Unlikely, but...
Vintage car remanufacturers in the USA routinely ask well over half a million to over a million for old cars they've straightened up, shined up, and plonked crate motors into...
Ruf made an impressive, but not that massively capital-intensive completely new interpretation of a 911 without any revolutionary or really cutting edge tech (a carbon tub, yes, and they did redesign just about every part, but in today's world that is pretty routine and only counted in work hours instead of massive investment). They charge about a million for a redone, 'simple' old 911. They've publicly told us they only invested €12 million into its development which is an astoundingly small investment, and for sure a fraction of what has gone into Zenvo.
Zenvo do not have a ls engine.. So thats not right
@@pistonburner6448 12 million does not sound small when there already is a base car you're working off of.
@@20nobody20 according to Car and Driver, it’s based off a GM LSx crate engine. The heads do look eerily like LS stuff also. I don’t think that takes away from the car, because while the block may be LS based, the rest is ‘just’ bespoke/high end parts bolted into/onto it.
@@20nobody20 Yes, they do have LS crate engines which are then modified.
One plus that if Shmee has to sent it back to the factory, the trip form the UK to Denmark is short
Shmee is such an eloquent speaker
Might be cos i LOVE Zenvo's, but the TSR-S is one of the most aggressive looking cars in the world. The purple just looks insane
Its a sick car, love it cuz my favorite color & its super limited. Not for me bcuz im too much of a Zonda fan if i ever was that insanely wealthy
3:30 Funny I had a neighbor that had Lamborghini's and Ferrari's and had the same problem. He couldn't take the car and just go grab a bite to eat at a local restaurant because of the attention and issues that might arise. So he got a C8R just to knock around it where they could go shopping and out to eat and not worry about it. While not hyper cars, its about the same basic issue. 👍🤠 I on the other hand will park my F350 anywhere, so I can't relate! 😲
i love that he didnt come on and talk about the car itself, the numbers, power, tilty wing, yatta yatte. instead he gushed about the PEOPLE behind the car and how great THEY were to work with. good stuff 👍
Probably because he got paid or a huge discount to say those things. The car doesn't stack up statically against its counterparts. The only thing it can brag about is the people and people are not really be able to be subjectively argued about
Watch things and people you like. Life’s more fun that way.
@@jthomp997 you're just a sad hater
@@jthomp997 Those counterparts cost x2 or even more than the Zenvo. You can't get a brand new hypercar under $2M these days. and also, cars are subjective, you might only focus on the HP and torque figures. but other ppl look beyond that. at the end of the day, zenvo is a great car in itself, stop the hate.
Shmee is the absolute BOSS 💯 🔥 👌
Absolutely amazing looking car! But that bright green one that was in the back...🔥
way cool, goooooooooo SHmeeeee!!
Profound explanation. I love all the carbon fiber they put into the Zenvo.
I really hope he takes the zenvo to the ring
Tim rules and I dig the spec
I don't know if I'd buy a Zenvo for $2,000,000 given the choice. I honestly believe there are better options out there for that kind of money, but I will say I like the design of the car minus the wing. I am sure the wing very functional and yada, yada, yada, but it's an eye sore. If it could be redesigned or removed to make the care more aesthetically pleasing then I'd be more inclined to want to spend $2,000,000 on it. Still, it's hard for me to justify that kind of money on it when you know cars like the P1, La Ferrari, and 918 replacement are on the way. The biggest thing the TSR-S has going for it though is the fact that it's all combustion driven as of right now haha. The same can't be said for many of the hypercars on the horizon.
looks are subjective. Personally i think it looks better than any Pagani.
@@uraniumcranium2613 That is true from an individual level, but from a market level there does need to be a consensus that the car looks good compared to peers...
@@uraniumcranium2613 I like the zenvo Ts1 GT more then pagani and bugatti
This choice was not understandable.
Never even heard of Zenvo until this video.
This is a great commercial for Zenvo
for me also, the Koenigsegg Gemera V8. 2300hp and 2750nm torque in a 4 seater GT cruiser. its my perfect car.
Zenvo has a beautiful front
Pagani has no front, just a bonnet lid
Tim is the man he's so cool and so informative of everything it's no wonder he's the top guy in supercar/ hypercar knowledge he's the guy I would love to meet
The trunk bouncing the way it does around the 3:30 mark doesn't speak too well about how polished of a car it might be.
Shmeeeeee!!!! Always great to see you here.
All I can see is that Seat Leon wing mirror
Knowing what is comming from Zenvo, I understand his choice 😀
To me the pinnacle of hyper cars is the Czinger 21C. I really hope you can get one of those.
Does it come from factory with protective film clear bra?
Watch his videos then to find out😏
Shmee reminds me of a real estate agent
9:29 is that a lsx
I would love to see Shmee and Nico Rosberg together with the Zenvo and Rimac
congrats. love the color!
Shmee has always shared the rarest sports cars with the world. He talks calmly and buys what he wants, no ego or bragging. Being cool is his flex, not the cars
He likes to keep warm on a cold night? After all, Zenvos have a reputation of being mobile bonfires 😊 Personally if O could afford it, I would go straight to Christian von Koenigsegg's front door. But I do admire that Tim is original, quirky and individual with his choices
Loved his sunglasses. Who makes them?
He does haha
@@21sled haha
Shmee's bull sh*t levels are hitting new highs here
Because he got a discount for featuring it so heavily in his videos
I suspect that made it all work out. mid 6 figure seems about right.
Other brands get plenty of coverage, so they don't need to.
Pretty sure you or I would do the same. its a million dollar hypercar ffs. Not a Prius
@@sshrivaas yea he also can afford to buy one out right to
Your source!?
Don't make false claims you can't back up
@@sshrivaas Good investment, but with a smaller garage I'd pick any of many other cars. But then, I'd not go with that color either.
Thanks for the advertisement for Zenvo Shmee. A company of which I am sure you are an investor. Chiron all the way! Not even close.
Should have gotten the pagani. Always get the pagani.
He got paid to pretend to buy a Zenvo and market it a while. Owning a Pagani costs absolutely massively, Pagani totally pumps all Pagani owners dry with their totally insane mandatory maintenance costs.
So: make money while pretending to buy a Zenvo in a deal with Zenvo, or haemorrhage money like no tomorrow by genuinely buying a Pagani?
@@pistonburner6448 how do you know that he is playing pretend? Are you friends with the guy?
@@pistonburner6448 you making this comment everywhere. I can feel the burning. If you don't have proof don't bring conspiracy theories. If you have proofs then show to all. This is the same type of comment i have seen when he brought Seena and Ford GT.
@@pistonburner6448 He definitely got some kind of deal to buy the car but pretending to own it is taking it too far. The maximum they could do is give him a massive discount.
@@vvaannzz What makes you think he would pay anywhere near full price for a Zenvo? That's a totally unrealistic scenario that one of the most famous youtubers and marketers on the planet would just happen to select to buy a totally unknown and questionable supercar, then already now having made a series of videos where he has just happened to travel to pretty random car meets and "by chance" there have been Zenvos trucked in and the owners of those surprise Zenvo showings aren't mentioned or shown.
Don't be gullible.
Yes, it's speculation, but it's based on what is most probable and what makes most sense. I have lots of marketing experience (both academic research and in practice). I also have had a relationship with car manufacturer marketing departments, as my company and I have had a lot of sponsor cars for free from a manufacturer, and while dealing with that I've seen how they deal with a multitude of their other sponsorees and partners. So I know a bit of how these things work (not with Zenvo, a very different kind of huge car company, but nevertheless).
Knowing Shmee, this car is a keeper, especially considering that he understands that Zenvo are following in the footsteps of Koenigsegg
It takes someone as discerning as him to make such an investment into a company’s future with their own money and not just through words. This may end up being his best purchase ever if the car does what Zondas did; and that’s dependent on how Zenvo moves forward, which sounds promising
@@JuanCEOs725 oh no I agree. I don’t quite like the look of the Zenvo. But the prospect of it on the future is amazing.
I can't see the logic myself compared to buying something like a lambo or ferrari with lightning-quick gearbox shifts and without a stupid wonky wing that does nothing but upset the handling of the car. I think Shmee went for the Zenvo because he likes the design process and the colorful look of the car, like he has done with the rest of his cars.
The only new supercars I'd consider are the Porsche 918 and Bugatti Chiron, based mostly on how they look.👍
Pictures and videos don't do the Zenvo justice, it was gorgeous in the direct sunlight in Copenhagen!
They better have given him a % of ownership/shares
no dual clutch or carbon tub at that price, hmm🤔
Smee is a committed car enthusiasts. Spends millions on his car collection, and yet, rents a small apartment in London as his primary living quarters! 💯
And he DRIVES them. Guy has 15-20 cars and still has some of the highest mileages GTs, Sennas, etc.
@@theoneandonlybosable You are absolutely correct. Is it smart to put so many miles on such cars?
@@Hacker4life who cares, it’s his cars! A car should be driven regardless of what it is or what it’s worth!. Look at Manny Koshbin Bugatti’s and Pagani’s and so on he drives all of them!
@@MrGrazzhoppa Apparently, you care.
How'd you find out about his apartment?
I'm sorry but the bug never out shined the mclaren F1. Short of it being faster the F1 is better in every way (in my .02). And now the value of the F1 vs the veyron or any Bugatti damn near really shows. A milestone in its own way that paved the way to today, just never had the love for the bug like I do the F1
an f1 is 25 million dollars
@Ethan Calder not quite, cheapest one you could get is about 15 million roughly. The LM is worth probably 50 million or so and is on its way to the next 100 million plus car.
@@OxygenGenetics The f1 is getting so overrated now just like the bugatti chiron ,nissan skyline gtr r34 and the toyota supra all of these cars are overatted just my opinion have a good day
Zenvo Goliath GTR. Let's make this name a thing.
Anything with a top speed of over 200mph.
Is this that company that had that orange car on top gear years ago catch on fire when they tested it?
Tim should dub this car the joker , 20 years from now it’ll be one of the diamond cars one highly sought but only 1