Slavery In Islam | Dr. Shabir Ally
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- The Quran discusses slavery at length, and though it recommends freeing slaves and sets limits in terms of how the enslaved are treated, it doesn’t actually prohibit slavery. Slavery was a normal part of life in Arabia, and was practiced for centuries afterwards. But slavery as it was practiced was somewhat different from what we know of slavery in America. In some circumstances, for example, slaves could earn money or inherit or gain power or influence over others. How do we understand the practice of slavery in Muslim societies? Does Islam support slavery? Join Dr. Shabir Ally for part 1 of this discussion!
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It was the western powers who forced the ottaman Turks to end slavery in the caliphate
Today in Islamic Pakistan Hindus Sikhs Christians girls kidnapped forced marriage forced conversion etc all deemed legal by high courts
Slavery is wrong - a righteous god would not have codified slavery - Shabir Ali has sold his soul to accomodate for this heinous practice 😰😰
@@cervezaway7049 Slaves have rights in Islam.
As a Muslim, I'm not satisfied with his answer. We had slaves and just gave them more rights, but still practised slavery... what our hands own.
Allah should've ordered not to have slaves.
I think it is muslims taking advantage of things not mentioned in quran as permissable
bro if allah(swt) ordered to just free the slaves it would have been chaos all along slaves where dependent on others if allah(swt) ordered to just free them in result womens then will be forced to to do wrong thing and man would beg all along so allah(swt) gave their responsibility to muslims
@@Bruteforce930 Thats is the beauty of science and technology. It makes most uses of slaves redundant.
Right Mohammed should have banned Slavery like how he banned Alcohol.
@@Bruteforce930 god could have introduced a system which it doesn't happen instead of talking about bu which foot go to toilet
In the first minute dr discloses that the subject of slavery in Islam is irrelevant by today’s society and we’re looking past in time at slavery 2000 years ago. I think to myself, how does a perfect book literature decay over time?
Allah condoned it he didn’t command it
I think the same thing . God chose the worse way to communicate with his creation and in a way that is confusing, and not even perfectly preserved. And he expects us to make no mistakes in how we interpret his message, despite the fact that his message never being clear.
From what I see is a way of deterrent, god knows better, but imagine if no captivity allowed, the enemy will not be scared of anything. Quran doesn't say you have to have it but if the circumstances called for. Society is what is changing and you never know when we run out of technology people will tart raiding each other.
why would the creator of the universe need a prophet to deliver his message?@@theodoreconstantini2548
It is not confusing. It is clear and perfectly preserved.
There is simply no justification for slavery period duh
@@kanizfatima1377 I could tell you about history of Islam and that Muslims were often on the offensive rather than just defending their home but it doesn't really matter. What matters is that how a supposedly omnibenevolent God justifies slavery.
@@angramainyu335 no one is justifying slavery explaining how it existed in history isn't justifying it grow up to think critically will you, do you think any society that existed even the Hindu societies ever had a slave-less society, the prophet simply asked people to free the slaves as much as they could and treat them like brothers i think even one of his best friend and compatriots was a back Ethiopian slave
@Suleiman very well explained brother to add on, if they removed slavery then they would have to change their whole socioeconomic situation which is disastrous due to the amount of empires around them that could destroy them for that.
Bible Exodus 21:20-21 - "When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money.
So forcing those Germans clean up Europe after WW2 had no justification?
Where does the Quran get rid of slavery? That was a misleading statement. No where in the Quran is slavery condemned.
@Ashish Rajput Where?
Quran encourage to emancipate slaves
that is a small safe way for that time to put an end to slavery
@@darkbridge6083 - the Quran forbids drinking of alcohol , the Quran forbids pork consumption- the Quran DOES NOT forbid slavery 🧐 Muhammad owned , bought and sold slaves - he even had concubines -
@@darkbridge6083 - why is it not allowed to enslave Muslims , why is it permissible to enslave non muslims 🧐🧐
@@cervezaway7049 where tf does the quran promote slavery
I’ve become interested lately about slavery in Islam. I am a Muslim, an imperfect and struggling one, and i my opinion, I think we should start admitting that early muslims contributed to making slavery a widespread problem in the past. But Before anything else, Islam was the only religion that gave some rights to slaves as evidenced by written verses from the Quran. Verses about treating slaves humanely. And yes these werent practiced by most of the Muslims but it didnt mean that the religion promotes it. You can only enslave a non-muslim prisoner of war, instead of killing him. But it comes with terms like you need to treat him humanely, clothe him and feed him with the same food you eat. Not giving him a workload that he couldnt endure. Honoring a contract if he asks for it etc. And we shouldnt forget that Islam primarily promotes freeing of slaves. That Allah loves a muslim who could free a slave. There are a lot of verses about that. Islam even promotes marrying a slave and giving her Freedom as your mahar. But again we should admit to our past mistakes. Early arabs were one of those who turned slavery into business. They bought slaves from Africa mostly and sold it to middle eastern countries, even to pilgrims in Makkah. We shouldnt be afraid to admit that these things happened, not because of our religion but because muslims didnt understand their religion, it breaks my heart because as much as i love my religion, I couldnt stand hearing the sheikhs being defensive all the time of Islam instead of admitting our past mistakes.
It was narrated that Abu bakr as-Siddeeq said: The messenger of Allah said: “ No one who mistreats his slaves will enter paradise.” A man said: O messenger of Allah didn’t you tell us that this Ummah is the greatest in numbers of slaves and orphans? He said: “ Yes so treat them kindly as you treat your children and feed them what you eat.”
Musnad Imam Ahmed bin hambal page 64-65 verse 75
A lot of islamphobes take the word “Slave” to far like when your reading this you really think to your self how could this be compared to people who are treated worse than animals for hundreds of years in Africa and the Americas??
The answers why slave is become a business that time is money, it can defeat faith
@@ameerahrashid7720 Our religion gave us verses on how to deal with slavery, whereas others did not. However, I respectfully dont agree with you saying that Islamophobes are taking the word slavery too far. Slavery is slavery, whatever the living or working condition a slave was in, they were still enslaved, there is no way around that. We should start admiting that these things happened, in that way we could have a healthy dialogue about these topics and we shouldn't be too defensive about Islam because not all things that a person does should be blamed to his religion. Islam is perfect, humans are not.
@@notyeet8683 you are right. We can have all the guidance our religion can give us, however, at the end of the day, we are just humans, imperfect and have weaknesses
The rules of freeing a slaves etc was only for the white slaves called Mameluke
Those rules were not for black slaves called abt
This shows the discrimination in Islam
Have you ever investigate why only the black moors and black slaves were shipped to America
and why no white slaves or white moors were shipped to America
Muhammad considered two black slaves to be as good as one Arab slave. What a prophet! 🙄
The freeing of Slaves only applied to slaves that converted to Islam.
Reference?
Some questions.
Is slavery bad? Has it always been bad?
How come slavery is still legal in many Muslim countries today?
Why did Muhammad have dozens of slaves, even minors and women?
If the Qur'an is eternal, how did such a gigantic switch in our culture remain untouched in the book?
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@@comingislamicantichrist7212 self fulfilling prophecy. All that is said in your video is just patterns from nothing. Same as Quran.
@Sabrina Shahab/ADMINISTRATIONBRAC I'm Muslim, and a scholar of theology. I have theories for the questions I asked, but I'm interested in what other Muslims think about the subject. Like you, avoiding the questions, insinuating I'm something I'm not, then trying to switch focus to something that has nothing to do with the initial topic. Typical. Afraid and naive
@@bigelowtech actually. You know .that i am also .a slave of Muhammad..Just answer me ..if jesus was here .and ask you to become his slave .what a Christian is gonna do ..abviously will become ..so then what is in that ..and also .you cant have slaves .in Islam ..listen only the the war prisoners are allowed .and even its said to marry them ..also becuz.they have lost each and every thing.
@@bigelowtech you are a muslim ..still saying that
If Islam teaches equality, then the question of slavery does not arise.
Too many unconvincing intellectual contortions. It is perfectly straightforward Mr Islam. Please just agree that slavery is bad in all circumstances? No?
Lots of tumbleweeds bouncing past....
Of course slave it’s bad ... as jail it’s bad , but what you can do if some person went to jail ? .... so that slave it’s bad and it’s found before islam came ... and our islam make plan to finish by nice way ... so islam close all ways to slavery just by war with enemy of islam ... and he encourage to release them after some time by too much ways .... so that islam want decrease salvery in our world
and the president of islamic people he has right to decide to release those Prisoners of war if this decision will help islam religion
And you should don’t focus just in slavery task and leave all major tasks in islam .... your doubt in salvery in islam that because you are human and you were birthed after 1400 years from Quran came so that you can not imagine how society were at that time and you are human so that you don’t know what will happen in future and how concept of slavery in islam will work in future and help humanity we don’t know because we are human ... but what i know islam is clear religion which guide me to worship just allah who created everything and i am arabic man and i know this quran can’t be made by human , so that i will not leave islam because i have doubts about concept of slavery in islam ... and that doubts because my deficiency and I don’t understand The perfection of Islam
Abolishing slavery is a moral act. The Qu'uran does not condemn slavery. Therefore the Qu'uran gives tacit approval to immorality.
@Trz 1 - If the Qoran says that by freeing a slave it is possible to be forgiven of a serious sin, then automatically someone who has not committed a serious sin does not need to free a slave to be forgiven, this legitimizes someone having a slave. 2 - Paying Zakat must be destined to help not only the poor but also to free a slave. But note that we are talking about alms, you do the minimum to help a slave, something close to 2.5% of your income, the Qoran does not instigate a massive struggle in search of the abolition of slavery, the Qoran recommends the minimum to help a slave. Imagine nowadays, slave people and we even having money, we allocate only handouts for them to turn around.
@Trz Are u implying, that most(Ottoman-empire, Saudi Arabia, etc)-Islamic countries, were(quran-Illiterate)-Not muslimeen ???
@@trz386you know you’re coping bro
Facts
@@trz386 Muhhamed himself had plenty of black slaves, and he also were extremelly racist towrds the Blacks from Ethiopia for example...
with all due respect to the Islam community ... slavery is a terrible evil, even from the perspective placed under war captives
You're literally a slave and you don't even know it
@@firebirdq826 aren’t we all? We’re still on the grid aren’t we 😬
@@tssx11 yes
We are slaves of god only.
If you listen to the historians muslim slavery was the in the most cruel shape, but for some reason no one is speaking about it loud enough... the fear of Islam is capturing the freedom of truth
"By freeing a slave, you will be atoning for your sins."
This is silly because this can make you buy more slaves so you can sin more. By buying, you'll encourage the making of more slaves. So it will raise slavery and the practice of sin (haram).
Then, others will pretend to be slaves to be freed and earned money. Slave traders will make more slaves and get rich while Muslims will commit more sins (haram) and get poorer.
Absolutely correct!
it’s a bunch of rubbish!
If freeing slaves was some type of atonement why do they still practice it today in the Middle East & Africa?
Buying slaves is prohibited itself so your argument is null and void.
Good points 💯
You cant just cheat god bro wth is this logic😂
@@vespa9566 WHO F PRACtISES??
I'm a atheist and not surprisingly I disagree with him on several points. But the man sounds very humanist, unfortunately I think he is to moral for the Quran. And he is stating several time things that are wrong
Wait you're an atheist how the hell would you know more than a Sheikh
@@undeadban2742 you know atheists can read right? I don't claim to know the book by heart but that doesn't mean I didn't read it and study Islamic history. Plus you don't know the bible better then a paster how can you claim that he is wrong?
"Dr Shabir" gets me everytime. It must be weird addressing your father that way
Oh I had no idea she is his daughter, lol.
Is she? I wouldn’t guess.
In a professional setting , keep it professional it's none of our business who she is to him. What did you get from the content if the video sir?
And whoever liked it is just as ignorant.
i find it so cute!
Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) said: Whoever would love to be delivered from Hellfire and admitted into Paradise, let him meet his end with faith in Allah and the Last Day, and let him treat people as he would love to be treated. Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1844, Grade: Sahih
SubhanAllah
And that’s why he had slaves?
@@Getcakedieyoung23 slaves are contractual agreements to be of service justly to those in need.
Labronski Milan
So the female slaves Muhammad captured were agreeing to be enslaved and raped?
@@Getcakedieyoung23 beware of those who want to cause doubt in your religion because of doubt in theirs. Propaganda has been widespread to misuse the power of that which is being slandered
You notice how it says Muslim Scholars AGREE what you think there going to say they took a side even before they did there resreach
Quran don't suggest slavery but for the reason of the people of that time Allah had not banned it . In modern world slavery is banned
That means some of the rules in quran was for that times of jahelia?
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or. the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
and if the Bible is change when did this change happen before mohammed or after and prove it
The Quran is the corruption of the Bible.
One of our books is changed, it isn't however the Bible. th-cam.com/video/5VLFPZStm3M/w-d-xo.html
The more I listen to Muslim teachers like this guy the more I understand why Nabeel Qureshi and other Muslims converted to Christianity.
😂 Christianity isn’t a religion the majority of people convert to 😂they mostly convert from it to Islam
@@Zeus-cp3rkAny evidence you can provide ? What did you base your statement on ? A muslim imam told you so ? :-)
A priest told you so?
How you do you have to be to listen to priests?
@@waymilky442 What are you afraid of ?
'our practice of slavery was better than other's practice of slavery' lololololol, pure sophistry.
@AHumboldtCountyCastaway What do you think about (Q. S Al-Mu'minun:5-7), that say a muslim man is allowed to have s3x not only with his wife but also with his slave.
He is mad
A topic worth talking about
can the moderators for the channel please unmute/unblock me. I have a comment on this video regarding the strict prohibition of concubinage in the quran, that I believe is critical to the discussion. It is based primarily on the interpretation by Muhammad Asad.
Mashaallah one of my favourite speakers. To the point
Maybe because he waters it down just enough to handle it?
And most of the slaves taken were Bantus from Eastern Africa and Slavs from Eastern Europe yeah
You must be muslim KOR Studio you need to say that other wise you would have to question the quran one thing i'm pretty sure in that was not the Angiel Gabierl with mohammed
Salam For those who are interested by this topic Dr Muhammad Fazlur Rahman ANSARI: treated this topic eloquently in several lecture that you can find in his youtube channel
Lecture intitled: Problem of Human Dignity
He has quoted in minute 5:48 Sourate Balad Chapter 90 verset 12 and 13
He has quoted in minute 7:50 Sourate Baqara Chapter 2 verset 177
He has quoted in minute 16:26 An others sourate ??? Purhaps you will know which sourate it is. Kindly don't forget to tell me
Lecture intitled: Ittihad Unity in Islam
He has quoted in minute 22:00 Sourate Balad Chapter 90 verset 12 and 13
Lecture intitled: Ask Mawlana Dr Ansari - 02
He has quoted the same verses that i have already quoted.
Yeah I'm sure he masterfully evaded any embarrassing verses.
You are an ignorant. Let me tell you one of the mission of the prophet Muhammad sws was to abolish the institution of slavery.
Whatever the work of orientalist or islamologist to smear Islam. This religion will triomph over all his rival. If you are not confortable with my word put that in your pipe and smoke it. You can also take some water to make the pill pass better.
@@MariamKhan-oj6zb ... Buy a quran if you are so curious.
Didn’t allah say that he will preserve his word? (sura 15:9)
Free the slaves? Pro Mohammad kept slaves?
Pbuh
Dr Shabir ,, Inrespect can we called Ahmed deedat our Spiritual Father
Basically this man says Quran was written with respect to traditions of 6th century Arabic society .
This clearly tells this is a book written by a man and not god.
Also it infers that it should just stick to a life of 6th century and not to that of 21st century
True right hand possession is islam and ourselves. Personal Shari'ah #ClearQur'an
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Ok you make that clam about John 5:7 and has to books removed and so much verses added and tooken out and came 300 to 400 years after Jesus where is the proof can you back it and show me what was removed is so show me and prove it or you just saying it you can prove it
All you have to do is look in the NIV or the RSV. You'll see for yourself verses taken out
Dr .Shabir how much liquid do you use to dilute your quran daily?
Salaam, watching all the way from Nigeria. Great show
You know that false prophet called the nigerian people raisinheads.
My homeboy... You see the way Sheikh Shabir Ally address issues is way different from our brainwashed /extremist scholars out there in náíja
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You do know who these slaves will be right???
@@dennomuli 😂😂😂😂😂😢
Just look at the merits of Bilal ibn Raja and how he was upheld by the four rightly guided caliphs. Umar ibn Khattab the second caliph said" Abu Bakr Siddiq is our master and Bilal is his master" even though Abu Bakr Siddiq technically brought him and freed him. Al hamdulillah
@John Poul You keep posting that Hadith, not realising that it doesn't even help you.
Bilal was Muhammad favorite black slave like Steven in the movie Django
@@winstonolga8281 you just talking prove that Bilal was a slave of Muhammads I'll wait🤔
@@winstonolga8281 this is your evidence 😒😒😒
@@ArdoBlueMoonhe was born and raised in Mecca which makes him a Muslim cause non Muslims don’t live in the society of Mecca as thy convert them into islam
Poor women, poor slaves
All humans required to obey God
Depends on which God?
I am not muslims why should I obey an Islamic God
There is only one God. The God of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Devid, Solomon, Ishmael, Isaac, Mosses, Jesus and Muhammad (peacr be upon them all). Whatever language and Name you call Him....
@@md.yasirkamal3548 The same God who said in gospel that a man should have one wife and also who gave permission to drink alcohol but had re-corrected his sayings in just 600 years time as a man is permitted to have upto 4 wifes and says alcohol is haram. Self contradicting God.
@@md.yasirkamal3548 How did you disprove every other god?
Slavery is wrong - a righteous god would not have codified slavery - Shabir Ali has sold his soul to accomodate for this heinous practice 😰😰
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I think the issue is this: There were 17 to 19 million African slaves traded in the Islamic Slave Trade, which legally ended in 1962 in some countries. Muhammad owed Black slaves and is said to have impregnated one. Muhammad is said to have said that Satan looked like a Black man. One of the reasons why the Islamic Slave Trade didn't end earlier is because leaders said the Quran didn't forbid it. Castration of African slaves was a common practice and many captives transported died on route. Baghdad, Iraq is the first African Slave Revolt documented due to the harsh oppressive treatment of the captives. So, Dr. Shabir can share what various texts say... but statistically speaking, the actions of many ignore the text and follow the example set. This led to many Africans being enslaved because of the lack of value placed on their lives.
i dont know about your sources but what about more common sources like when prophet muhammad said "And as for Moses he was dark in complexion and and slim as of he was from the men of Zut.” (Ibn Taymiyyah makes mention of an authentic narration that mentions people of Zut being jet black in colour) or when the prophet said "an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety and good action. " or the stories about bilal or Osama bin zayd. What about these more commonly known things ?
Muhammad didn't have any Black slave. Mary was not Black and she lived like his wife. Had a house an all that.
Alhamdulillah, thanks for the explanation
@John Poul Maybe if you read the Hadith before you would realise that Bilal was a free man. He pledged himself to Islam and Muhammad pbuh because of the dignity they gave him and he believed in One God.
I already have.
@John Poul Bukhari 3754. A hadith earlier.
i'm getting quite sick of these critiqueless interviews. When will they respond on the hard questions. If allah recommends freeing slaves, WHY DID MUHAMMAD OWN SLAVES?! this guy is sitting there, bending over backwards to tapdance around the obvious, grossly immoral practices in the Quran. Why not just acknowledge that slavery is wrong, it has always been wrong, Muhammad was wrong, and therefore grossly immoral for owning slaves and we all have a better moral compass than the main characters described in that horrible book. Why is that so hard?
How did you know the Prophet had a slave?
@AHumboldtCountyCastaway Can you show me anywhere in my comment where i said he beat his slaves? Do you find it difficult to condemn slavery?
@@OmarRamahi2019 Safiyya bint Huyayy, Maria al-Qibtiyya, The black woman named Mahran. Must i continue you tard?
@@OmarRamahi2019 Read books, read hadits, and ask your imam, you will know he has not only one but some slaves(male and females). Even one of his slaves gave birth to his son named Ibrahim.
I'm a Muslim but fact is still a fact, whether you like it or not.
@@daydreamer5074 facts indeed are facts but I don’t get my facts from either so-called imams or dadiths
It doesn't seem logical. God can send Angels to help in the Battle of Badr, but not ask the Messenger to abolish slavery.
@AHumboldtCountyCastaway You don't get it because you're a psycho who has no compassion and empathy towards other human beings
Maybe if you became a slave, lose all of your freedom,and separated from your family not being able to see them again then you will understand.
Qatar, Lebanon are exemple of actual slavery
No ... can you tell me how ?!
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Why don't just say slavery is condemned, not allowed and against the principles of humanity.. Why didn't the quran just say something simple as that as we all know its wrong
Yeah that’s a cope
Listen you want to learn about jesus go to the Gospel the Bible if if your going to say its change and the quran is right well then your mined is set
Our mind is set, Islam is the only true religion, its the only way to god PERIOD.
This is muslim channel go to your christian channel sir
For those who are interested, Abdullah al Andalusi has given a lecture arguing that the Prophet pbuh actually abolished slavery if we take the post-abolition definition.
That explains why he had numerous amount of them.
@@talisupremacy7176 They were actually indentured servants and treated more like employees.
@@ArdoBlueMoon 😳 Mate indentured servitude is a euphemism for slave.
He did not treat them as servants.
He didn't care a about them. Unless he was sticking he's pp in them.
@@talisupremacy7176 Why don't you have a listen of the lecture that I've suggested and then we can continue this discussion.
Ohw Baraka Allah fik I just went to see the video I was searching for answers to this topic
Why is it that freeing a slave is seen as a way to seek forgiveness, why wasn't the facts that just having a slave is a sin period? Black people always have the short end of the stick when it comes to religion, no matter if its Christianity, or Islam. We black people are stripped of our culture for the sake of religion Smh
What does this servitude have to do with black people. A prisoner of war can be of any race and nationality, no race is superior to the other. The only ones getting the short end of the stick are prisoners of war, which I would argue would be in much better condition as servant in a household than as typical prisoners of war.
@@Handle0108 ok but being a slave isn't a good condition. Why can't they just free them or let them integrate into society?
Zakariya Jama i understand but that is the end goal of the servitude. The Islamic servitude is in no way similar to the non-muslim idea of slavery that we all have ingrained into our heads. Firstly, the servant already has some rights and he/she is considered a human that can stand before law so doing an unlawful/inhuman act against them is punished like everyone else. Secondly, there are proper mechanisms/systems in place for a servant to eventually get their full rights.
If you look into history, this is why there are so many former servants who have risen to very high ranks and freedom because there is actually a pathway to freedom and full integration. You need only to look back to the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt which comprised of primarily former servants who became kings over the Muslims world in the Middle East. Could you imagine freed slaves establishing a government in the US and ruling over the whites in the 1800s, and yet that is exactly what happened in Egypt.
@@slimy6316 Exactly!! 💯
@@Handle0108 so the end goal is to end slavery? Well first of all you would have to prove it. Provide a verse in the quran or some sort of hadith. Secondly if that is the case then it failed. Slavery is still active in muslim nations. It took Saudi Arabia to ban slavery in the 1960s yet it still goes on today.
Your all in for a rude awaking when jesus returns do your own resreach why dont you question your perfect Quran also everything so far is playing out as the Bible has been wrtitien revelations already started,jesus said he is the only way to the father and him and the father are one ,i have watch many debates you need a good christian one that knows what he is talking about but your Dr only pray on people that dont know how to answer him
I’m curious why Quran doesn’t simply forbid slavery the way it forbids alcohol pork premarital sec etc.
Cause the economy of the world depended on slaves. If God said that then the whole society/world would crumble. So instead he found ways to end it bit by bit.
@@waymilky442 now in 2024 our economy is based on interest (sood) so it must be halal then.
but Muhammad himself acquired slaves including women. So it didn't seem like Muhammad was too keen on diminishing slavery lol.
Also the plantation owners in 1861 also said the same thing. That slavery is too entrenched in the economy and without it the economy will crumble.
Then the god didn't accomplish the religion as he pretended when he said: اليوم اتممت لكم دينكم ورضيت لكم الإسلام دينا
If you knew Jesus he was about love and peace he did not fight back Mohmmed on the other hand what does the quran say muslims did to christians and jews and non believers really is that Gods wish because he was here and the word became flesh
Jesus is God.
The prophet wasn't a pacifist and he could not afford to be in the early days. His own people were very violently hostile to him when he started spreading Islam, and even engaged in a number of attempted assassinations. Many of the neighbouring tribes were also hostile as Islam was completely opposite to their pagan practices and it challenged many of their social and cultural norms. If Muhammed had engaged in hardline pacifism, it would have been a serious existential risk.
Keep in mind that the Quran promises the most severe of punishments for those who believe in one part of the Quran, but not the other.
Quran (33:36) - "It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision."
Quran (2:85) - “Then do you believe in a part of the Scripture and reject the rest? Then what is the recompense of those who do so among you, except disgrace in the life of this world, and on the Day of Resurrection they shall be consigned to the most grievous torment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.”
Quran (5:44) - "Whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed is among the disbelievers."
Beautifully explained mashallha 💐
@BluckKraken I see dear I am not a scholar but I am only a very little student of islam I will try to give answer or you should go for an islamic scholar
@BluckKraken I I am only a little student of islam as I said
I think islam gradually ended the slavery
And prophet Muhammad pbuh regulated the slavery . th-cam.com/video/OCper2mwMXA/w-d-xo.html
U can watch this video also
What people don’t understand is, it’s not as simple as we think to just abolish slavery completely in those days. The modern day we al agree that slavery is bad and theres no excuse for it. But In those days the society didn’t have the mindset we have today so it was kind of a step by step thing to go against it
Can you explain why slavery is bad today?
@@faceda89 No religion in the world accepts slavery today. In past times it was open, now it’s hidden.
A lot of ppl mention how if slavery was to be abolished at those times their empire/society would crumble but they don’t think abt the impact of slavery in african countries, like how abt their societies??
It shouldn’t have happened anyway. Weather you have the mindset or not. If they wouldn’t have never thought of hurting their own family at that time why was it hard to think that it would be okay to do it to others? Especially when we ALL come from black people AKA Adem and Eve
@@ruby_RBD Society evolves over time. Not making any excuse for them. It’s bad regardless of whatever time period or mindset etc. But what I’m saying is at that time it had to be phased out. Just like how it was similar in the USA. Slavery was abolished but it took some time for there to be ACTUAL equal rights
How Islam moderated slavery
Islam's approach to slavery added the idea that freedom was the natural state of affairs for human beings and in line with this it limited the opportunities to enslave people, commended the freeing of slaves and regulated the way slaves were treated:
Islam greatly limited those who could be enslaved and under what circumstances (although these restrictions were often evaded)
Islam treated slaves as human beings as well as property
Islam banned the mistreatment of slaves - indeed the tradition repeatedly stresses the importance of treating slaves with kindness and compassion
Islam allowed slaves to achieve their freedom and made freeing slaves a virtuous act
Islam barred Muslims from enslaving other Muslims
But the essential nature of slavery remained the same under Islam, as elsewhere. It involved serious breaches of human rights and however well they were treated, the slaves still had restricted freedom; and, when the law was not obeyed, their lives could be very unpleasant.
It was narrated that Abu bakr as-Siddeeq said: The messenger of Allah said: “No one who mistreats his slaves will enter paradise.” A man said: O messenger of Allah didn’t you tell us that this Ummah is the greatest in numbers of slaves and orphans? He said: “Yes so treat them kindly as you treat your children and feed them from what you eat.”
Musnad Imam Ahmed bin hambal page 64-65 verse 75
I mean when you read this and you have to treat your slaves like you would to your own child you can’t really say their life sucked.
it moderates slavery, it did not make it haram, cant claim it to be a moral religion
@@ameerahrashid7720 slavery is slavery
True Christians only go by one Bible we dont live in the old testment anymore but i see what your saying those are people that have twicted things up ,i did a lot of resreach on islam and also the quran and the reason why muslim believe its the word of God i'm yet to find a good reason and foundation to support the quran i have heared from some people its the math jesus name is in there 25 times and Adam names is int here 25times,just because its one Book it doenot make it right without the Gospel or Bible there would be no quran so whoever wrote the quran did not know the Gospel and the Bible because there is notthing to back it up with this is my point i know how muslim feel strong about there faith and i'm not here to make anyone mad but you really need to do your own resreach and yes you need to question the quran as i question the bible but how many people really do that there broguth up by there parents that way so they follow that faith where i have chnage from being a catholic to being a born again christ this was my choice did my parents like it no but i also did not like the things that catholics were doing because they were flase teachings everyone is sensitive when it comes to there relgion and faith,If someones mined is set on something you or me are not going to change them so that being said you need to know when to back off because i have friends that are muslims but we both agree never to get on this subject and i respect him and he does the same this way you avoid a lot of things friendship
Freeing a slave? 😕So that means they were taken against their will in the first place.
They are captives of war
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. (Eph. 6:5) Masters treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him. (Eph.6:9) Were you a bondservant when called? Do not be concerned about it. (But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.) (1 Cor. 7:21)
Which Quran is Dr Shabir referring......there seems to be quite a number of different Qurans
There is only one, Jon.
Mentioned in 25 different verses. So it reflects the time it’s written in. Strange that allah wouldn’t recite something that is irrelevant of time and space knowing where man has been and will end up Almost as if someone who lived in that time wrote it. Even permits sexual relations with your slave. Very god-like! Why didn’t the Quran abolish it? Great question.
"Free A slave"
Not Free your slaveS
Lool. This is for everyone
Sahih Muslim 10:3901
As an Orthodox-Christian, I've no problem with slavery in general, because we have a certain form of slavery in the Bible as well, and I'm not talking about servitude, however the idea of slave-trading and sex-slavery in particular are absolutely unjustifiable, especially in case of sex-slavery which is basically adultery, so the Islamic slavery is a huge problem.
A fake profile with fake takes. You’re muslim just admit
@@hausijihausiji3225 Not sure what you're talking about. How do you come to such conclusion?
No orthodox Christian country colonized Africans and this is the only religion I will ever accept
@@ivanos_95 Muhammad in the hadiths allows his followers to impregnate slave women. Sahih Al-Bukahari 2229
No god would endorse slavery surely? Aren't we all meant to equal. The quran does not say slavery is wrong it just tries to regulate it. To free a slave to atone for sin is a disgusting option, and this is the direct word of god. Yeah right more like from mans imagination of the time
And the moon is made of green cheese
Slavery was practiced in Islamic and Christian nations. India did not practice slavery.
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How come muslims dont pray to the father only they pray to allah?
Allah is not a father. Allah is not a man or a woman.
I suspect by "Father" you're talking about the holy trinity. Islam recognises neither the trinity nor the divinity of Christ as valid. Scripturally, the Quran explained that God does not and would not have a son in any case, and explicitly denounces the trinity. That is why we do not worship "the father", the spirit, the holy ghost or Christ, only Allah.
For a better overview of Islam and slavery see:
th-cam.com/video/LsJV7V4Hwg0/w-d-xo.html
God is all knowing and all wise but does not had the power to end slavery😂😂😂 . Starting to believe that this God is just as powerful as everyone else 😂😂
O Allah! please grant the Muslims countless number of beautiful kaafir slave girls. Aameen.
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Apa susahnya nangkapin pedagang budak dan pembelinya. Ribuan tahun menguasai ekonomi dunia.Ribuan tahun. Bukan seminggu.
Dr. Shabir Ally what you talking about is nothing novelty talk about how the Arabs invaded Africa and imposed Islam on us however, the fact still remains the freeing of slave was never practiced by the prophet he said it but had many slaves at his expense.
@tim hamat brother that story never existed ask the Jews Jews whether they have being enslaved by the Egyptians in reality. And ask yourself when the invasion of the north African land occurred why didn't a single roman artifact terminated.
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For those who didn't understand and still trying to bad mouth Islam:
Islam doen't support slavery unless there is no other option (it was due to the circumstances of that time)
Islam encourages us to free slaves
We are all slave of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala
1. if allah is truly all mighty he could easily when against the soical norms and circumstances of that time because his truth would be universal
2. there shouldn't be slavery in the first place
3. then every non muslim is a free man
i would donate if he would speak the truth
Jin and human created for only for Ibadat.
Pray and give zakat.
Take care neighbour.
Take human, work for humanity.
All are Adam childrens.
Slavery, sale girls and boys allowed in Mohmmed time
War, Malay ganimat halal, using mutha marriage allowed
Release slave.
Relationship with other girls married or unmarried is sin.
Using slave, right hand posses, slave girls no problem, Muth marriage no problem..
Don't take intrest, but you take profit may limited or unlimited.
How curency working, manufacturing by government, how they declaring this CURENCY is harm or halal sources curencency is same..
Without Allaha permission nothing will, good or bad... then whose responsible for Poverty,decises, blame whom.. or curse to whom.
Call non Muslims right path, make muslim what about slave?
Both Islam and Christianity needs to repent for their sins against humanity!!! Please stop sugar coating and glossing over this topic, because as a descendant of slavery I find the hypocrisy being spewed here highly OFFENSIVE!!! May Peace be upon my Ancestors!!! And may the enslavers reap what they have sown. Muslims and Christians alike🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
My dear neice & nephew, while that TH-cam video correctly defined how Slavery is dealt with in Islam, it did not show the difference between Slavery (an embarrassing & sometimes a humiliating form of indentured servitude), as practiced in most of the world (then & now) & what was brutally employed throughout the Americas, that is North/Central/South America & the Caribbean basin, otherwise known as or defined as Chattel Slavery! Why this distinction was omitted, I cannot say but I felt you should know the difference between what was said, as opposed to what should have been said.
As always, as far as the subject of Islam is concerned, I want you to know what is Islam & what is not Islam … what you decide to do about that information is up to you!
Please be as safe as you can & know that I love you very much!
Muslims practiced castration slavery for more than a millennium. You can't practice chattel slavery when you're cutting off the private parts of children. Then they can't reproduce.
Wtfffffff did he say often castrated ?
manuscripts dated way back those the quran even have one finish manuscripts in the time of mohmmed or a little after his death no not til the 8th and 9th cen
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The Bible will always win
Bible says to beat slaves and never urges freeing slaves
Slavery exists in your books .
@@tarekzenati5348 Only in the old testament, which is more of a historical document since Jesus in the new testament made a new covenant.
The problem starts when people think that Islam has given us the concept of slavery, but in reality, it was already there and considered a normal thing but if you look at all the rules and regulations that Islam has given about slavery, we can clearly see that Islam came to abolish slavery because, in the presence of these principles, slavery Couldn't stay long.
don’t you suppose that the way to capture a “potential” slave haram in islam. Like you suppose the way a muslim/arab captured slaves were in a humane way? Like think abt an african man taken/kidnapped or even abused into the slave trade just to be forced into lack of water whist walking barefoot across extremely hot terrains whilst their captors who are muslim/arabs sit atop their sheltered camel ride. The concept of slavery was to degrade the opposition. Like why does islam not speak about the fall african societies and civilisations due to slavery and not solve the route of the problem
The question is why didn't quran, which is supposed to be eternal and God's message not fully condemn slavery outright ?
@@WaveRider1989 The Answer is simple, to my understanding, it's a deterrent measure in place, that will make enemies to think twice before they raid.
@@WaveRider1989 quran already spoking about freeing of slave is a good deed, and a chapter in hadith titled manumission of slaves, which talks about how many slaves were freed by prophet, he bought them from their cruel masters and freed them, no other religion ever spoke about it only islam. it was done step by step as islam was not majority at the time to abolish it, but it promoted it.
"...we can clearly see that Islam came to abolish slavery because, in the presence of these principles, slavery Couldn't stay long." Clearly the arab muslims who enslaved my ancestors in east Africa for over a millennium didn't get the memo.
And really who arre we to judge my truth might not be the next person truth sometimes its better to just say i dont know because as soon as you say you know this is how it strats i have watch many debates and they can get very ugly and nasty its not even about God anymore its more a ego pride thing well he said that now i'll have to get him back with this and at the end of the debate one person did not change the other person really ,i guess its more for people to watch and listen and make there own desion I have watch video with dr zakir naik what i have notice is he prays on the weak christians that dont know how to answer the question he has been invited many times to debates and refuse to go to someone who knows the quran inside and out and who knows the bible inside and out this also happens both ways but with him he will take one bible verse without knowing the whole scripture and say the rest is fabricated well if it is then prove it to me with that you would have to go manuscripts and this clam that the Bible has been corrupted is just crazy because there is no muslim out there that can show me what is and prove it,thery will say because the quran says so well the quran came out much later when did this corruption happen before mohammed or after because we sure cant find it so that being said its your choice what you want to believe in and i have mine and we need to respect eachother but like i said dr zakir naik he ask questions to people that dont have the answer this is what i have notice about him and muslims really think he is smart thats called praying on the weak in my eyes
biblical scholars i can show you ones that say postive thing and nagtive things and also there are quran scholars that cant fine a quran finish til 200 300 years after mohmmed death
In fact my brother you are very wrong you should check the Birmingham quran dating right at Muhammad time and the complete bible is codex siantic which is now been many verses added like 1 John 5:7 and has to books removed and so much verses added and tooken out and came 300 to 400 years after Jesus
Your own quran crush its self
This is blasphemous. Allah, peace be upon him, shall permit slavery, peace be upon him, whenever he wishes, peace be upon him. Slavery really isn't that bad.
Become my slave. I have a toilet to clean. I like my dinner at 6 PM. Be prompt please.
then how about you will become a slave? since you said
slavery is not THAT bad. Show us the example! XD
and another thing it was writtien by many people how can a book be so perfect unchange and you have zero proof
Notthing good ever came from islam
You're ignorant
@@Abdul_Aziz919 Muhammad was a sicko.
Coming Islamic Antichrist Jesus was a crused men
@@Abdul_Aziz919 he is yes.but islam has more bad than good.
That means, that the(Ottoman-empire, Saudi Arabia, etc)-Islamic countries, were-Not Muslims ???
This guy is confused . Aslave doesn't have a say . How can a slave suggest a contract. Pathetic
It's called mukataba it's totally historical thing