HOMOSEXUALITY: An Islamic Perspective | Dr. Shabir Ally
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- We have received many questions on the issue of homosexuality. How is homosexuality discussed in the Quran? As a community, how can we promote an inclusive environment for all, while still staying true to our beliefs and values? Dr. Shabir Ally joins us to discuss this topic.
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This guy made me want to start praying again. Islam was never meant to be hard, unaccepting, punishing, and black and white. Dr Shabir you truly showed us that
islam is always harsh against evil
Please, start praying again, anyway! The peace in your heart and the gain of strength you will achieve is unmatched. May ALLAH guide you.
@@cornelius2993 ♥️
@@craycray507 you stop of praying cuz of the faghs ?
Truth 💯
I have always been uncomfortable around scholars and mullahs because it always looked like they had made it their personal responsibility to decide who was going to hell and who deserved heaven, but Dr. Shabir ia an amazing man. He understands religion, he understands muslims as well as non- muslims and he understands the times we live in. He is very non-judgemental and explains the matters in a beautiful way. I love his lectures. He has made me so much more comfortable with my religion.
You must be sleeping around with men drinking alcohol and doing drugs still have the audacity to comment ofcourse you will to hell fitna women
this man is a real muslim,he doesnt judge instead does his best to bring people together through understanding and respect for others.
a real muslim is someone who doesn't follow muslim tradition
nice
he is very traditional
Exactly, because tradition is created by more than just religion.
gamingmunky5 The guy in the video is
there is a difference between understanding & respect.... and compromising your religion
This guy makes me want to study the quran...and i'm an ATHEIST.
I pray that you find what you're looking for and i hope you get benefit from reading the Quran
@@jataro95 thank you. I am in the process of buying a quran that is transcribed in english. I know there are several.
@@calonstanni i just wanna remind you, if you have any doubt or question, dont be shy to refer to any muslims or people that have knowledge about quran. It helps you expand your knowledge, and hopefully your faith
Study the holy Quraan there are only benefits for yourself by learning...follow your instincts in this regard
Apart from the scientific mistakes, and the verses about killing non-believers, and the marriage of female children, and the verses about the burning in hell of non-Muslims, I believe you'll like the verses about Zakat, which is a portion of your money, you have to give the poor every year after Ramadan, and how to treat and obey the parents, and the description of the legendary garden of Eden, etc. It is an interesting book about the time it was written in (no offence to Muslims)
I am not muslim and came upon this channel on pure coincidence. I am so pleasantly surprised about the level of intellect and realistic talk. I know that there are thousands of different opinions in every religion, but unfortunately the very conservative side of Islam is often seen as the norm. I am right now feeling a bit dumb to subconsciously have conformed to that narrative.
It's good to learn
yea dear
May allah bless you
Haha this is all an act.... if you want to know don't look at things like this. Go and ask muslims what they think of it.
LOL. So you're basically saying "If you want to know Muslim opinions, ignore all of the examples of Muslims who are tolerant and pay attention to the ones who aren't because it supports my narrative." Basically skew your research in favor of biases. What an idiotic statement.
Indeed Allah (God) gives immense reward to those who are patient
Bro what does that have to do with the topic 🙄🤔?
@@emperordavid2044 I think they meant that in Islam you're not allowed to show your feelings you stay in the closet forever and if you told a person just don't tell anyone and there is a reward for those who follow the order of Allah
@@emperordavid2044 dunno lol but still a good motivational quote :)
@@emperordavid2044 being patient with their desires because sexual desire is very hard to control and god will reward those who are patient or those who repent
I hope i can be extremely patient..but im also unperfect human..that cannot escape from mistake
im actually a bit dissapointed at people who say Dr.Shabir is "too open-minded and westernized" as well as people praising Dr. Shabir for "spreading tolerance". This isn't politics, this is Islam. I so appreciate the way he (and tbh the whole program) focuses purely on the quran and validity of hadith when it comes to answering questions. Notice how he starts with "the quran..." and most scholars start with something that usually goes along the lines of "homosexuality is an ungodly sin punishable by the hellfires!!!".
I think he did awfully.
Exactly some people mistakenly and sadly are under the impression that Islam means oppression, no laugh, no smiling, no joking, no enjoying things, you have to miserable and die miserable in order to get to Paradise, which is in fact the opposite of what Islam teaches.
Shabir Ally is someone who goes by the book so to speak, at least he tries, but you have some of the zealots who seem to think Islam is all about being inconsiderate, insensitive, unkind, uncharitable etc.. They also seem to think Islam is all about force, and unfortunately that is the image they are selling to the non-muslim world.
All Wahhabi type mindset, and half of them are hypocrites because behind close doors they probably do worse.
Anyway Shabir Ally like most of us who wants to go by what the Qu'ran teaches and not by what some Saudi (Wahhabi doctrine ) teaches.
Allah knows best.
and most scholars start with something that usually goes along the lines of "homosexuality is an ungodly sin punishable by the hellfires!!!".
Total agreement there, those usually borrow stuff from the OT, many silly stories were lifted straight from the OT.
Islam is and should be different, a bit like stoning they invent so called Hadiths to implement something that is totally alien to the Qu'ran and Allah's laws.
How can the highest form of corporal punishment is 100 lashes and these people tried very hard to implement stoning as an acceptable punishment in our Islamic teachings.
1) This was a punishment invented mostly by the ancient pagan civilisations such as Rome.
2) It was later introduced and added to the "Bible" (OT)
3) Later it reached us through the backdoor via way of so called Hadith.
So Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him knows better than his creator? Wow, or Allah forgot to include it in the Qu'ran? Oh dear may Allah guide all of us insha Allah.
@@naimamohamed6231 Where did Allah tell you it's haram? Show us please.
@@naimamohamed6231
Dear sister, for the love and sake of Allah, adding stuff to what Allah decreed is one of the biggest sins.
In Hadiths also says we can stone adulterers, although the Qu'ran specifically points at the highest punishment is 100 lashes, so according to you we should ignore (as usual) what Allah says, and believe some Hadith written by someone unknown, which he borrowed straight from the OT.
So what makes your Qu'ran so special if you're doing exactly what the Bible says and does?
There is no mention about a great sin.
"Musrifun" means spoilers or wasters nothing to do with transgressors, and there is no mention of Haram, or sin.
I don't care if there 10 000 Hadiths, any Hadith that contradicts the Qu'ran I don't accept it, period!
I am not the one judging sister, you are the one holding judgements using vague Qu'ranic passages to judge others, unless we misunderstood each other.
I don't judge anyone, on the contrary, I am not perfect so I will not point a finger at anyone.
“Such a person is going through a tremendous test.” The understatement of the century. Weeping.
👍🏻
This man is so respectful and non judgemental about others belief system, orientation etc God bless you Dr. Shabir Ally... You've earned yourself a big fan
.God bless 🙂🙂
Dr Ally sends the most tolerant message on this issue I have heard from a Muslim scholar in a long time. Indeed the Bible is a lot more hateful than the Quran. But the Muslim majority countries still have a long way to go on how to deal with gay men and women.
CRYYYYYY , islam is clear on this issue and everyone who has read the doctrine knows shabir is wrong
@@Itfuture-gg1yz So, if it is clear, what kind of amazing things does it say?
'you go after man instead of women ? verily you are transgressing people' no compassion is shown in quran regarding this , its clear@@roerdomp16e
7: 81-82: "You approach men with lust instead of women. No, you are a people who go beyond the limits."
It's yes clearly mentioned on Quran...
bruh maybe read the context first instead of just looking at a single sentence tho
Al Quran say it clearly and repeat the verses in several surah
@@isaito789 please provide the context you speak of. and i'm just asking you to do so bc we're all here to learn. thanks in advance.
@@isaito789 ahem... And he turned away from them and said, "O my people, I had certainly conveyed to you the message of my Lord and advised you, but you do not like advisors."
And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?
Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
But the answer of his people was only that they said, "Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure."
So We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who remained [with the evildoers].
And We rained upon them a rain [of stones]. Then see how was the end of the criminals.
In short, yeah, not only was it a crime. But the city of those who lusted upon men was literally rock bombed
And have you ever read these verses from the Quran before doing this video:
(Translated from Arabic)
7:80. And Lout, when he said to his people, “Do you commit lewdness no people anywhere have ever committed before you?”
7:81. “You lust after men rather than women. You are an excessive people.”
7:82. And his people's only answer was to say, “Expel them from your town; they are purist people.”
7:83. But We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who lagged behind.
7:84. And We rained down on them a rain; note the consequences for the sinners.
Dr Shabir forgot this verse in the Holy Quran:
It is clearly stated in the Holy Quran:
“And (remember) Lut (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?
Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)’”
[al-A’raaf 7:80-81]
It is very clearly mentioned in this verse that the people of Lut were engaging in homosexuality and it was a manifest sin. Many other verses imply the same meaning and verdict without any disagreement or discrepancy on the matter.
He always finds a basis in the Quran like we all should.. May Allah reward him.
The Quran without the Sunnah is just smoke and mirrors.
@@berkturkoglu are u mad 😒😒😒. Quran itself is miracle for ummah
@@berkturkoglu Quran is the word of the creator and Hadith is word of man.. Hadith only has meaning if it finds a basis in the Quran.
That's Haram. Supporting these groups like LGBTQ/BLM is Haram.
@@bryanbradley6871 He never support LGBT
وَلاَ تَلْبِسُواْ الْحَقَّ بِالْبَاطِلِ وَتَكْتُمُواْ الْحَقَّ وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ ﴿٤٢﴾
And mix not truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth while you know (the truth).
+Wardy Osman So you're saying the sheikh is lying??
+Ali Siddiqui re read pls, fined where lie came up??
And you have better arguments? Or do you go by assumption?
Also that’s exactly what this scholar is saying!!
Humeyra Patel agreed
I disagree when he says that Quran does not talk about homosexuality
Same bro wtf
He is a modern muslim. Lol.
@Pasho Spahiu only god can judge someone, shut up.
@@fery2835 And God told us its not allowed to be homosexual
He never said it doesn't talk about homosexuality lmao. Did you guys even watch the video? All he said was there's no clearcut prescribed punishment for someone who's homosexual, unlike how there are punishments for people who commit theft or adultery.
He's advised that people going through these urges should exercise patience he didn't say that it was acceptable
Take wins where you can get them. At least he's not outright condemning homosexuals. Change takes time.
Is a sin which one must repent for...patience stands in that that he/she may get healed ...
@Pin Apple I did biology in school thank you...and zoology and anatomy (for human ) as well...A Levels
@@andreeaboloca4440 joke
@@kaiboi8399 laugh then 🤷♀️🤦♀️ some of you are just ..something else I'm not aloud to pronounce 🤷♀️🙈😅
i love how dr.Shabir is not afraid to give a non bias, straight to the point explanation even if it is not the popular understanding. so many imams and leaders will tell a sensationalized opinion, ignoring real truth, just because it is'nt popular.
This is life changing information. Thank you. Alhumdulilah.
SubhaAllah. Seriously how can he say nothing is mentioned in the Quran directly? Please refer back to Surah Al A”raf Ayahs 80-81. As you channels says Let the Quran speak
7:80-81.
وَلُوطًا إِذْ قَالَ لِقَوْمِهِۦٓ أَتَأْتُونَ ٱلْفَـٰحِشَةَ مَا سَبَقَكُم بِهَا مِنْ أَحَدٍۢ مِّنَ ٱلْعَـٰلَمِينَ ٨٠
7:80
And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?
إِنَّكُمْ لَتَأْتُونَ ٱلرِّجَالَ شَهْوَةًۭ مِّن دُونِ ٱلنِّسَآءِ ۚ بَلْ أَنتُمْ قَوْمٌۭ مُّسْرِفُونَ ٨١
7:81
Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
absouletly, he is saying something that is completely against islam and the Quran. How could he say something like that ! Allah knows the best . Jajakallah khairan brother/sister.
These verses have nothing to do with homosexuality, they have to with homosexual adultery. You're clearly too bigoted (or extremist) to understand the difference.
It doesn't take a genius to see that the Muslim world has far greater problems than a few gay folks doing what they want behind closed doors. Conservative muslims should stop all their hand-wringing over homosexuality. Gay people simply exist, they always have, in every society, and no amount of hatred or violence directed at them will ever change that. It's far better (and more Islamic) to love one's every neighbor and show the world an Islam that is magnificent, benevolent, and merciful.
but u can also say the western world has more problems. While the US has a problem with the spreading of stds, Islamic ruled countries doesn't have that problem
There is nothing directly mention in the Quran????????? Quran 7:80 81
And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?
Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
But people of Lot did many other bad things also
It talks about approaching men instead of women as a transgression this is in fact completely agreed upon by all mujtahidun
In Qur'an,if something is forbidden the prohibition will be written clear, like don't drink wine, do not eat pork, etc. All of them are clearly written forbidden but not to homosexuality
@@cinemaxxxmovies106 that's incorrect
7:81 Verily you practise your Lust on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds ( by committing great sins )
I left Islam because I was brainwashed into joining the fascist and hateful wahhabi cult. And I was indirectly abused for being queer. So I left. But thank you for your words. I wish I had heard a voice like yours before theirs
May you be surrounded with love and light always.
How are you doing now?
Al-Qur'an 7:80 to 7:81
And LūT (Lot) when he said to his people, “Do you commit the shameful act in which nobody in the world has ever preceded you? You come to men lustfully instead of women. Rather, you are a people who cross the limits.”
Al-Qur'an 26:165 to 26:166
“Do you go to the males out of the whole universe, And leave what your Lord has created for you from your wives? Indeed you are a people transgressing."
Al-Qur'an 11:78 to 11:79
“His people came rushing towards him; they used to commit foul deeds. He said, ‘My people, here are my daughters.They are the purest for you, so have some fear of God and do not disgrace me with my guests. Is there not a single right-minded man among you?’ They said, ‘You know that we have no claim on your daughters, and you know well what we want.ʼ ”
Al-Qur'an 15:74
“Then, We turned it (the city) upside down and rained down upon them stones of baked clay.”
Al-Qur'an 54:34
“We sent upon them a rain of stones, except the family of LūT whom We saved in the last hours of night”
If someone is homosexual it doesn't mean just a man and a man it could mean a women and a women why can't people understand this?
maybe it was know as a man and man before women came idk tho
homosexuality has linguistically and technically only been referred to as the relationship between two men, sexual/romantic in nature. there is no mention of a relationship between women.
I'm just thankful lesbians aren't mentioned in religion
leviathan . It is but okay follow your desires all you want
Theres also bisexuals which means men+women can also love
Jazakallah khairan.
btw i have been hearing a background noise in i guess all of the videos i have seen so far, the sound is a bit annoying but i think your mosque is located near an airport.
Islam is unequivocally clear on the prohibition of homosexuality although the punishment for it has not been ordained on earth. Surah Al-Rum Chapter 30, verse 22. "And of His signs is that He has created wives for you from among yourselves so that you may find peace of mind in them..."
There are other verses where heterosexuality has been deemed the clear law of nature in the Holy Quran. This much should be very clear. What should be remembered is that there is no punishment mentioned by Allah for this so Muslims should remember not to take ANY justice for this in their own hands. Easy rule to remember is "Love for all hatred for none". You won't change hearts or even opinions by violence. Peace and Love (As practiced by our master the Holy Prophet (saw)) is the biggest and most effective method of reasoning.
+Zackery Silas hmmm...errr...well..your comment is a little confusing... . what the heck are you doing on this SPECIFIC forum if you don't want to hear what the Quran says about this TOPIC.. genius!!!
+Zackery Silas Your juvenile comment only shows that your understanding of the Holy Quran is at par with the extremist and terrorist understanding of the Holy Quran - YOU BOTH HAVE NOT READ IT!!! NOWHERE does Allah permit Muslims to force Islamic law on ANY land that is not a Muslim ruled country. In fact, if you had EVER read the Quran you would know, that Allah COMMANDS the Muslims to abide by the law of the land in which they live in. If they feel they cannot do that then they should move to a country that they can abide the law of... but abide they MUST!
'Western Liberal Values' ..... you sure you have a unanimous definition that everyone can agree on??? don't forget MANY Christians, Jews and even Atheist who disagree with homosexuality.... you want to kick them our of Canada as well??? some liberal values you have!!!! the minute someone disagrees with you you want to kick em out of Canada.... that's hypocrisy... try to listen to what others have to say and respect everyone even if you don't agree with them.. THAT is liberal values and quiet frankly EXACTLY what the Holy Quran teaches... and no I won't leave Canada because it is my land just as much as it is yours. Live with that!
+Zackery Silas ... Can you point out in my comments where I am forcing you to believe or pushing my beliefs on you ??? However, you, on the other hand, have been very forceful in pushing your beliefs by telling me and all Muslims to leave YOUR country if we don't agree with your 'Liberal values'... like I said, I find people like you just as much of hypocrites as the extremist of ANY RELIGION. You only want to spread hatred against people who disagree with you because you have made up your mind that they are all 'evil'. I'm not really interested in changing your mind...you are a hateful person and that's pretty much it...
If, however, you want to have an intelligent decision based on your research of the Quran then can you give me ONE VERSE from the Quran that forces people to believe in it ? this should be VERY EASY for you since you read it 'front to back and back to front....'
There is no doubt the Muslim women are repressed in many backwords countries that declare themselves Muslims but do yourself a favor and ask a Muslim woman who is educated in Canada and wears a hijab if she is repressed. Why should I tell you they are not repressed ... I'll let the women cover that topic...
You believe the Holy Prophet was a false prophet - So be it. It's your belief.
Marrying more than one person is repulsive - Frankly I can't even think about marrying more than one woman...I'm good with the one I got.... HOWEVER, what you are I think are limited to our singular views and good for us in our limited little worlds. The world at large can benefit from women being legally married to a man and having legal children... many aspects: legal, moral, etc, etc... but I don't think you are interested in an intellectual discussion on this topic.. you just wanted to raise a point without even knowing what the Quran says about it... oh I forgot you have read it front to back and back to back or something like that..
You don't respect my right to follow my path in life - you will always shout slogans against me and my family just because we follow Islam and do it without forcing our beliefs on anyone. You are are hypocrite.
Omar Mateen committed a heinous crime against innocent people...period. What he did is completely against the teachings for Islam. His actions are commended as per Islamic teachings.
mohammed lone, i think the you meant to say condemmed.
He does mention Lot saying it is a list of crimes . I've been reading the comments implying that he hasn't spoken about it
He dances around the topic, whilst it's very clear why lot was sent to his people.
@@jamescook4402 It's also very clear that Lot talked about the sin of his people calling it a sin no one before them has done. I appreciate how smart and well spoken he is, but I really hate when he avoids to give the exact view of Islam not to offend his western audience.
@@osumanaaa9982 I was confused ngl when he mentioned that homosexuality was not mentioned directly in the Quran... um...: ‘Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins).’ al A'raaf, verses 81???
Lot in the Quran has spoken about it
I am Muslim.
I am homosexual.
I didn't choose to be.
I was forever this way.
I offer the namaz.
Start my day with tasbeeh.
Walk out of home reading ayat ul kursi.
Stop by the graveyard to pray for the dead.
Am I a bad Muslim?
I don't lie.
I don't cheat.
I don't drink alcohol.
I dress modestly.
I try to live my life the Islamic way as much as I can.
Am I doomed to the fire of hell for a thing I never choose for myself?
Please reply.
Hope you do fine.👍
Good luck.
i can't give you a clear answer regarding your question as i am not a sheikh or a scholar, but try to be the best muslim you can be, God knows your heart very well.
U r on a high test from allah....n u will be rewarded more...in the aakhirah....be patience n have faith on allah... Allah gives severe test to those ..to whom.. allah subhan wa taala loves the most..so pray to allah always...n have faith on allah.
1. Good.
2. Okay...
3. Yes, you did. These thoughts are to be controlled by you, and how you show affection to people of the same gender.
4. No, you weren't. Shaytaan and Iblis have affected your mind and are currently trying to deceive you. Make Jihad against them, and overcome them and maybe one day have a family and children.
5-8. Is fine.
9. Well, that depends. Do you act on your thoughts? Do you at least ignore them and pray them away? Do you let them get the better of you? If so, then possibly, but I wouldn't know.
10-15. Try harder, as these things are not to be excused, but are to be overcome and won against. Fight against these thoughts, do not let them get the better of you and do not let them make you say these narratives.
16. In conclusion, if you act on the most deepest of offenses in Islam (taken from the Qur'an, Madhabs, and Ahadith) you could, but that is for Allah (Subhanahu wa-ta Ala) to decide. But if you keep on trying to excuse your actions for creations when Allah created all of us as His servants to pray and put Islam into practice, then you are taken out of the folds of Islam. Trying to make an Impermissible thing Permissible is Mak'ruh in Islam, whether it is Sunni, Shia, or Ibadi Islam.
Hello everyone. I’m a lesbian, and I’m learning about different religions and I’m trying to find out which one is best for me, and I really am leaning towards Islam however I am afraid that I won’t be accepted within the Muslim community because of my orientation. Are there any Muslims here that are accepting or are LGBT+ to help me? And any homophobia will be ignored, I am not interested in someone telling me “I need to change” or “I’m sinning” because frankly I already know He loves me no matter what
Islam is not for you if you wont change so look somewhere else I guess
@@Thats-Akumetsu SHUT UP U CAN'T JUST REMOVE PEOPLE FROM ALLAH (SWT) THAT'S SO HEARTLESS OF YOU!!!!!
Sorry, U need to seek the truth. Please read Prophet Lut story about homosexuality. There is no way Islam will accept LGBT. U must fear Allah.
I suggest u to learn Islam to Mufti Menk, Zakir Naik, Yaqeen Institute, AssimALHakeem, etc instead. They have yt channel.
@@catcute1094 Allah said to Luts village
"i don't like your actions" he didn't say your feelings. if allah swt hates gays why make them?? didn't allah swt say i didn't create u to burn u??
Just follow your heart. Don't worry about people not accepting you for your orientation, just believe in God and have faith, this is what Islam is all about (having a connection with God). There are many Muslim people accepting of the LGBT folks; some Islamic countries have rights towards the transgender community. Things are gradually changing. 👍🏻
I disagree on this point with Dr. Shabbir.
Whenever act of previous generation is mentioned with dis-likeness or they were punished its quite clear it is forbidden for us as well.
Dr. Shabir seems to normalize each and everything which western civilization couldn't digest, Sir please don't try to please these people, do not compromise the truth with to please the western world.
Ikr! Trying to please the west is wrong we are MUSLIM and we do what the quran says and we are PROUD
Pierro Losapio we NEVER tried to force the west into our believes :) you are the ones who put your nose in our land and culture and things that totally don’t concern you
Pierro Losapio we don’t need people like you either who DON’T respect other traditions or values or our land👏
you misunderstood his point...he said there is no solid proof that there is a prescribed punishment for homosexuals..how could you say he is normalizing homosexuals..you better watch it properly before judging him...
Hey Salman Ahmed, I get your point here.
But then you also mentioned the acts of prev generation, which were disliked, should be continued to be treated the same way. That reminded me of the many dialogues which the disbelievers have said to various prophets (s.a.w), as an explanation to their idol worshippping, that their fathers uses to do the same as well. At that time, if they had held on to the same mentality, then there wouldn't have been anyone who got converted to the religion of Islam right?
I'm just asking you, what if we were actually wrong about6taking clear cut decisions on such issues?
As someone who is just starting to learn about Islam, I am grateful for someone like Dr. Ally who can temper his faith with a view to modern society. He is educated and well-spoken.
It's refreshing to see among the commenters here that there are people who are just as judgmental as Christians among the Muslims too.
If you want to learn islam learn it from prophet Muhammad ﷺ
Acceptance of differences among people should be the guide to a proper society
Unfortunately, the acceptance is one sided... rainbow society are accepted more than muslims. Double standards😉
see ignore the person sexuality and don't bother to hate them or bully them just see how good of a person he can be a great person ,musician, doctor or a friend
Tanim Kazi exactly :) i fear off people because they are not interested in personality but more in sexuality of a person as if its their concern.
@@joseflafinga2670 Well whether this is the case or not, it is not for others to judge. If a Homosexual person is not doing anything to harm you then just let them live the life they want. At the end of the day it is only God who can judge someones actions. Nobody is accountable to anyone but his judgment, unless that person is explicitly doing something that is preventing you from Worship.
Exactly thank youuuu!!!!
@@ebojfmdboojoh4023 No, that argument has been rebuked. You can judge a person's outward deeds, said by Caliph Umar (RA) in his Hadith.
Judge the Outward Action, and leave your inner thoughts to Allah (Subanahu wa-ta ala)
In the west, that never happened.
Thank you 🙏 another great interview
This is blowing my mind
NO PENALTY mentioned for homosexuality , WOW!!! so why do they kill us? Or that's what we can see on the news . This is something THE WHOLE WORLD SHOULD KNOW ... I wish all Muslims could THINK like this doctor. THANK YOU DOCTOR . I loved Min:10:25 Allah blesses you .
Although I don't agree I can say that muslims should progress.
The same punishment that happens to heterosexuals would happen to homosexuals basically. The case of death penalty would happen if the person is married and caught in the act by many witnesses. If the person is not discovered and repents sincerely, then God would forgive them
We Muslims follow the Quran FIRST cuz it's the only 100% trusted source we have.
All hadiths and sayings by old islamic characters could have been changed in 1400 years. Quran is from Allah, hadiths and all the bullsh*t some people came with were written and put together by normal people after years of the prophet death.
Please listen, just pray, fast, don't hurt your parents, don't hurt others, do good to people that's all you need
Ignore all the side things that made islam looks like a funny joke to people.
@@staystrongjoseph Are you a hadith rejector ? That's really sad. How do you pray and how do you perform Wudu ? 😅😅
@@osumanaaa9982 some hadiths are "weak" and some are "strong" and we are not even sure which one is real amd which isn't
i wonder why female homosexuality/lesbianism isn’t mentioned ever...
Though I am believer of yeshua but still love listening and learning from Shabbir Ally
Were all believers of yeshua
We all believe in yeshua and Omar Suleiman, and Allah knows the best.
@@naseeha450 what? Are you dumb?
But still their is no answer to homosexuality, just patience and die right ?
yes
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?
81. ‘Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins).’
82. And the answer of his people was only that they said: ‘Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!’
83. Then We saved him and his family, except his wife; she was of those who remained behind (in the torment).
84. And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). Then see what was the end of the Mujrimoon (criminals, polytheists and sinners)”
[al-A’raaf 7:80-84]
“Verily, by your life (O Muhammad), in their wild intoxication, they were wandering blindly.
73. So As‑Saihah (torment - awful cry) overtook them at the time of sunrise.
74. And We turned (the towns of Sodom in Palestine) upside down and rained down on them stones of baked clay.
75. Surely, in this are signs for those who see (or understand or learn the lessons from the Signs of Allaah).
76. And verily, they (the cities) were right on the highroad (from Makkah to Syria, i.e. the place where the Dead Sea is now)”
[al-Hijr 15:72-76]
Imagine with all these proof from the Quran this so-called sheikh is still insisting Islam accepts homosexuality?
"We also sent Lut : He said to his people : "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." Qur'an 7:80-81
"What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, and leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but ye are forward folk." Qur'an 26:165
Both references relate to gay sexual activities; lesbian practices are not mentioned in the Qur'an.
Doesn't matter
anonymous anonymous it does for us since we are muslims lol
Actually when you think about it, It is wanted from Look to leave his wife behind because she was ne of those people in thay society. and you know what lesbian means so
Loot* not look
@@omer9357 exactly
فَأَنجَيۡنَٰهُ وَأَهۡلَهُۥٓ إِلَّا ٱمۡرَأَتَهُۥ كَانَتۡ مِنَ ٱلۡغَٰبِرِينَ
(Sahih International)
So We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who remained [with the evildoers].
-Surah Al-A'raf, Ayah 83
Thank you Dr Shabir Ali.
Let's spread love. Not hate.
Eric Cartman Islam actually talks only about peace, you clearly hasn't understood the religion. The word Islam itself means peace. Get your facts straight instead of spreading unnecessary hate.
Eric Cartman stfu pig
There is nothing directly mention in the Quran????????? Quran 7:80 81
And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?
Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
Let's spread hell
Illiterate
Let's bang the waste canal....its natural
ayesha samah Correction : Islam means submission
He has answered this question well. May Allah bless Dr. Shabbir Ally and the entire team of 'Let the Qur'an speak'
he hasn't answered it well and he isnt letting the Qur'an speak. It says in the Qur'an very directly about homosexuality and the verse is:
7:80
And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds [i.e., peoples]?
7:81
Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
Right so the whole Quran speaks about men being for women and women for men ...about straight people...and then it mentions about what happen to Sodom and Ghomorra ,yet we call its message unclear ....a teacher,one whom we should fallow,calls its message unclear.. May Allah have mercy on you my brother .
Thats if he is real.
Yes but did God said not to feel one no not to be one
It's a test from Allah to not show them why is it wrong to love someone then why did God give us attraction and emotions see it's a test if you're going to show your feelings you have to stay in the closet forever get married or not you must hide those feelings not to become one but to feel them
Like how is it wrong to have an emotion when he gives us humans emotions why is it wrong will people go to hell remember there is more then just one sin you will only go to hell of you show them you have to pretend to be heterosexual not show your bisexuality and pansexuality and homosexuality or what ever fall in the umbrella you're allowed to feel them not to show them
That’s behcuse the majority of the earth are heterosexual, I believe LGBT only make up 2% of the US population. The Quran addresses the majority, it doesn’t mean it’s not possible or that it’s bad
Dr. Shabir,
Why are you dumbing down this point? It is clearly a sin.
"Surah Al-Araf, Verse 81:
إِنَّكُمْ لَتَأْتُونَ الرِّجَالَ شَهْوَةً مِّن دُونِ النِّسَاءِ بَلْ أَنتُمْ قَوْمٌ مُّسْرِفُونَ
"Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)."
(English - Mohsin Khan)
And
Surah Al-Araf, Verse 84:
وَأَمْطَرْنَا عَلَيْهِم مَّطَرًا فَانظُرْ كَيْفَ كَانَ عَاقِبَةُ الْمُجْرِمِينَ
And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). Then see what was the end of the Mujrimun (criminals, polytheists, sinners, etc.).
(English - Mohsin Khan)
And several Hadith too.
We cannot cherry pick.
It was a sin in all books of scriptures.
May Allah Guide them.
Rubina Merchant Woah rain of stones as in stoning homosexuals to death?
Rubina Merchant It doesn’t matter what the Hadiths say, the holy Quran is the only source of Islam. Being homosexual isn’t a sin, as far as I know is that the act is a sin.
Motivate Strive Aspire These things are no part of Islam. Quran>Hadith.
@@denizisi7245 Not sure what context you are saying this in. Being a Muslim is all about having pure intentions and striving continuously to obey Allah AND His Messenger as Allah Clearly Commands in the whole Quran in numerous verses.
@@RubinaMerchant You obey the messenger by obeying the Message he delivered, as stated in numerous verses in the Quran. You traditionalists need to stop twisting the meaning of the words in the Quran.
This doesn't sound like a Islamic perspective on homosexuality but an individual's perspective on the subject
Love this!
Only God can judge .. and God Rule is in all the religions homosexuality is pohibited
Quran 7:80 81
And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?
Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
La bible:
Deutéronome 22 5
5 Une femme ne portera point un habillement d'homme, et un homme ne mettra point des vêtements de femme; car quiconque fait ces choses est en abomination à l'Eternel, ton Dieu.
lévitique 18 22
22Tu ne coucheras point avec un homme comme on couche avec une femme. C'est une abomination.
Epitre aux romain 1 27
de même aussi les hommes, au lieu d'user de la femme selon l'ordre de la nature, ont, dans leurs désirs, brûlé les uns pour les autres, ayant hommes avec hommes un commerce infâme, et recevant dans une mutuelle dégradation, le juste salaire de leur égarement.
28 Et comme ils ne se sont pas souciés de bien connaître Dieu,
Dieu les a livrés à leur sens pervers pour faire ce qui ne convient pas,
Dont follow anyone blindly:
Follow
1)Quran
Then the 2)Hadith
Then the 3)Scholars(What majority of scholars say)
Then 4)Own Reasoning
It is clearly mentioned in Surah Al Araf 80-81 that Homosexuality is not permitted in Islam.Clearly.
May Allah save us from darkness.
is that hadith authentic?
Assalamualaikum Tuan Haji. You have answered it well May the Almighty Allah bless you and your group. Praise to Almighty Allah. Ghany from Malaysia.
Mashallah! he makes it so clear and it makes a lot of sense.
Doctor Shabir thank you for having such a non-bias and calculated outlook on the topic, I actually sent this to a friend who is interested in Islam. He asked me how Islam views homosexuality and I, not possessing nearly the knowledge you have, used this video to answer his question. Inshallah he will find the straight path as a result. Thanks again!
May Allah grant you the best place in Jannah. Your fearless explanations of our loving and kind Islam has saved me from doubt many times now and inspired many others.
Shabir Aly is a good preacher, the uses his mind, the koran and also the science. He is not a blind believer, we can see that he reflects and wants to see many parts of the koran in the historical context.
I think the doctor justifies his dishonest answers due to a desire to take Muslims out of a 7th century mindest and have them interpret the Koran in the context of our modern world.
@Kabeer Khan 😅 May Allah guide you and everyone else go loves the dunnia more than Allah ,my brother ...He has destroyed Sodom and Ghomora in Islam as well...this specifically reason,homosexuality ,was mentioned
No he Misrepresents the Quran.
He is leading people astray according to the Quran
No he lied lol 😂 dude do you want to know the truth watch "Saajid Lipham" he is on TH-cam. Also there is another TH-cam channel called "the Muslim skeptic" he made a video about Shabir Aly calling him out as well as Al Jazeera and AJ+.
Mashallah great discussion but still short of explanation like what does the authentic hadiths talk on this issue?how did the sahaba deal with this issues?why is it a crime ?and honestly this issue is particularly common among muslim male scholars although were silent about it when they force themselves on their student and sadly we dont know how to deal with it
All hadith+quran said homosexuality is haram ... this issue occurred at prophet loots time and his people received a huge punishment there is a sura about it.
Allah created men and Female to marry each other not Man to marry a Man or a woman to marry a woman.thats y Allah created Adam and Hawa to bear Us
@@maryoomaaziz3606 isn't it spelt Lut in english?
What about the people of Lot? In the quraan it is mentioned that the sin committed was never done before. How do you explain that?
What if it was never real.
I mean the greeks did it a lot though
There were so many other sins they did, it don't think it means homosexuality cause the Greeks were homosexual as well long before.
Le legalization of Homosexuality in the state, that's the action I was talking about not the individual act.
@@hershey1141 It was definitely homosexuality.
I am glad he was honest about where the Bible stands on homosexuality, in no uncertain terms, in that it completely condemns it, in both the NEW and the OLD TESTAMENTS,
I highly respect Dr. Shabir and his critical way of thinking about controversial topics in Islam. However, I do think he is sugar coating this a little bit. In the Quran it clearly mentions homosexuals as people who are "extravagant" or transgressed their bounds in Chapter 7 Verse 81. I do not think it is a sin to have feelings for the same sex, it is when the feeling is implemented. Please clarify that it is indeed not permissible in Islam, this is the word of god, not something that can be politicized
True but Quran didn’t prescribe capital punishment for homosexuals so we should not apply these laws rather get them medical help
He is confusing the people
Better not listen him , and return to the Qur'an
Study the Quran first
Thn listen
إِنَّكُمۡ لَتَأۡتُونَ ٱلرِّجَالَ شَهۡوَةٗ مِّن دُونِ ٱلنِّسَآءِۚ بَلۡ أَنتُمۡ قَوۡمٞ مُّسۡرِفُونَ
(Sahih International)
Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
-Surah Al-A'raf, Ayah 81
Yes brother.
Sura 7, Ayat no 81.
Then what he says?
He tries to interpret Islam in Western colours.
@@riyazenglish3576 unfortunately. and he is basing his views on a cheap science and we know that homosexuality in fact curable and many people changed it if they want to. the verses and Islamic position is clear towards people who practice homosexuality specially publicly. people need to follow their creator instead of making excuses to follow their cheap lusts.
@@archdesign4143 honey it's not a disease to cure you clearly are ignorant af
@@archdesign4143 its incurable, it’s feelings that come from allah which is a test that heterosexuals like you are incapable of understanding.
@@me-pn4qc what test ? So heteros also go through it ? Should they also never marry and keep their feelings to themselves ! this is not gods words , stop creating ur own scenarios.
*"Actually surprisingly there's nothing directly mentioned in the Qur'an about homosexuality in particular."*
Either his knowledge of the Qur'an is poor and thus he doesn't have the calibre that it takes to address any issue as he does, or he's airing his personal views but passing them as if they were based on Islam, or he's simply talking out of political correctness and is only saying what others would like to hear - misleadingly.
*Because the above statement of his is totally erroneous from Islamic point of view. Neither are his views with regard to homosexuality in general in line with Islam. From such an statement only, he's more misleading people than shedding light on anything. Beware!*
Dr. Shabir Ally has mentioned the Quranic passages that mention homosexuality, did you even watch the full video?
@@sena5701 Anuone who desires men over women is a transgressor. This is clearly mentioned in the Quaran. As a Christian I think that Homosexuality being a major transgression is something that Muslims & Christians can agree on. With the greatest respect Shabir Ally is clearly trying to deceive Muslims. I am pretty sure that the consensus of opinion worldwide amongst the muslim community would disagree with his views. In my opinion If there is no punishment mentioned in the Quaran then Muslims should refer to previous scripture, where it is clearly mentioned that somebody should be put to death for such acts.
I felt compassion and showed love and respect when I live in a part of Thailand with many many trans women and the occasional tomboy. It's a crucifixion to have a foot in both camps. Sometimes samesex attraction comes to the fore, like when you admire someone's dedication and attainment.
Just be a you . And great than that . Respect the others . Right ?
Right wait is that a question
There is a scripture in my Bible though that says "if you love your neighbor tell them the truth." Then, the fact that Existencialism is a factor in my judgment, it's just kind of saying "Oh OK, I'll respect you, just because it's the law."
Wow..this guys knowledge of both the Koran and of the Bible is amazing. Very interesting..thank you!
Thank you for watching!
In islam it's haraam to judge another human based on their beliefs and the fact is that if a person claims to be Muslim then that person is Muslim regardless of their acts that is between Allah and that person
You are not allowed to decide who goes to Hell and who goes to heaven that's up to Allah to decide so check yourself before you judge someone else even then no matter how perfect you are and now matter how strong your imaan may be just keep in mind we are all getting into heaven on our own and we should rather guide someone rather than shame them for something you don't agree with
I absolutely agree with you. Allah will judge those on judgement day.
However, we muslims are allowed to lecture that person, if they are somehow a homosexual and islamic. We are able to point out religious evidence to show why that's wrong in the religion.
Also, we all judge each other on our actions and what we believe in. If you are a Christian or a Muslim that believes in missing their obligatory salah's intentionally or like to depict the Prophet Muhammad (Salla Allahu Alayhi Wa-salam) himself unveiled or without a Halo.
This is why Judgement is important, but only by outward deeds.
So the answer is... there is no answer.
Hahahahaha pretty much. Dr. Shabir's answers are usually just history lessons and descriptive- leaving the viewer to decide so that he doesn't come under fire for anything.
I still like his videos.
أَتَأْتُونَ الذُّكْرَانَ مِنَ الْعَالَمِينَ (165) وَتَذَرُونَ مَا خَلَقَ لَكُمْ رَبُّكُم مِّنْ أَزْوَاجِكُم ۚ بَلْ أَنتُمْ قَوْمٌ عَادُونَ (166)
(165) Do you approach males among the worlds
(166) And leave what your Lord has created for you as mates? But you are a people transgressing."
أَئِنَّكُمْ لَتَأْتُونَ الرِّجَالَ شَهْوَةً مِّن دُونِ النِّسَاءِ ۚ بَلْ أَنتُمْ قَوْمٌ تَجْهَلُونَ (55)
Do you indeed approach men with desire instead of women? Rather, you are a people behaving ignorantly."
The Quran directly condemns it and hes saying the Quran does not condemn it
Fear Allah Brother Shabbir
know that you will have to answer to him one day
in which minute he said that? you don’t even watch the video fully yet you’re accusing this scholar. pure ignorance 🤦🏻♀️
@@fiqz23 and you continue to defend him despite his clear deviance
@@user-ov1ps7go4m which minute that he said Quran does not condemn it? give me facts and stop being ignorant. muslims like you give islam bad impressions. 🤦🏻♀️
@@fiqz23 open your ears and listen to what he says starting from 0:28.
@@fiqz23 facts? I just presented you with the moment he actually made the statement 0:28. What more facts do you need?
weird how he refuses to point out the ayah that was clearly stated in Surat Al araf.
Luul Boru which ayah
Surah Al-Araf 80-81
And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?
Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
he literally talked about this, little over a Minute in... did you watch the video or just skim through it?
@@SillyTubereal transgressing is one thing and mutual is another
@@zakirhasanbora9044 lost in translation my brother...to transgress means to literally do it
Hey! Ayesha’s wearing Indonesian Tanun!! I sell Batik so I noticed that. Great description. Love your videos as always.
So what you are saying is that homosexuality is permitted in the Quran- Why do you not talk about the consequence for practising homosexuality which is stated in the Quran.
If homosexuality was allowed is Islam then Y Allah punish the people of Lut.meaning Allah forbides the act of being Homosexualists
I feel like he kind of tries to downplay this issue while the Quran is pretty strict about it.
Özge Solmaz Can you expand on that, he explicitly says the Quran doesn’t forbid it. Would like to hear your opinion
@@Pak-ll1gr I didn't say that he "explicitly" denies the fact that homosexuality is forbidden, but he did try to soften its certainty. No need for the explanation, you can watch the video.
@@ozgesolmaz752 Did watch the video, and I had never really heard of a scholar taking this approach. Thanks for the reply
@@Pak-ll1gr Which approach is that,
It seems like you're saying that homosexuality is treated like fornication or adultery more than anything else, at least as far as the Quran goes. Is that about right?
Yes.
Dr shabir Ali,
Sura 7, ayat no 81 says
" For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds".
What you say about this ayat?
(Ge.13:13) They were wicked and sinners before the lord exceedingly.
'The term' Sodomites' is used used in scripture to describe offences against the laws of nature which were frequently connected with idolatrous practices' Hastings dictionary of Bible 4vol ,pno 559.
Thanks
Continuing in Sura 7 we see who brings judgement. Its is Allah(swt) who brought down fire to their lands..It is Allah(swt) who saved. There is no ayat which prescribes a judgement or ruling of us as muslims to be the bringers of judgement nor any harm to another person. May Allah(swt) continue to bless you brother in all that you do.
I’m glad to finish this whole video and it helped me a lot SubhanAllah 😇
"Let the Qur'an speak" while ignoring direct verses condemning it!
Right. Surah 7:81
@@nuri_sunnah Nope, Surah Araf mentions adultery between homosexual people. Dr. Shabir Ally is talking about homosexual orientations. You are bigoted and clearly cannot see the difference,
I am a transsexual woman, who is loved by God my creator. My mother is Christian, as am I. And my father is Muslim. Reading all the hateful remarks are disheartening. God, by whatever name you call him, loves all his creations.
when you say that's mean a man to a women or women to man
man to woman
You are a man, Allah is Satan, God loves us so we need to strive to be who he made us to be, which is better than what we can do.
+TomTheTominatorFTW may Allah guide you to islam
Agreed The Creator does love His creation however It seems His love isn't reciprocated by His creation when one feels it necessary to change one's own gender or orientation from the one originally created or intended.
10:20 I am going to be provocative here, unfortunately many of the so called Hadiths are found in the Islamic tradition which they came via the back door through the OT and many of the ancient religions.
There is no mention of homosexuality in the Qur'an or Hadith and many "Muslim" scholars intentionally or unintentionally (Only Allah knows what was in their hearts) but I personally came across many similarities between the Bible or Christianity and some of the Islamic traditions which made me question the whole thing.
This is my take on the issue, since they knew they could never corrupt the Qur'an, so in order to create confusion, to cast doubts in the hearts of the muslims, to cause division, they first raised the "Hadith" to the authoritative status.
In many cases muslims go by what "A" hadith says, it takes precedence over the Qu'ran although they will all openly claim that the Qu'ran is the authority but in application you see a totally different scenario, some people can actually question the Qur'an but not the authenticity of the Hadith, they have the nerve to question the veracity of the Qu'ran but never the Hadith, especially if the latter was found in Bukhari or Muslim.
This is our biggest problem, many times I came across Hadiths contradicting each other and yet the Muslim Ummah seem happy to keep both in the collection no matter what.
It is common to come by similarities between both faiths but at the end of the day it could have been what they really thought.
you can't even pray correctly without hadith you illiterate
@@1eV I don't pray
:)
There is a mention about homosexual. Also hadith explains the quran. It doesn negate the quran. For example allah says pray but not how. So the messenger of allah explained how to the sahaba and they memorised it and preserved it.
@@eidolonicentipede Concealing and evincing major sins?!?!?!?
Disgusting how quick people are to defend homophobia while veiling it as Islamic. That's entirely wrong and entirely your interpretation which already comes from a hatred or dislike that was already there to begin with. Do not twist the words of Allah.
Sir mentioned people of Lot it's clear from that God himself takes care of the punishment, man is not supposed to be punishing.
he said God loves everyone. He means God loves also those who do homosexuality which is clearly against the Quran 7:80-81
Governments authorities can rho its thet divine right
Hey ! Dr. Shabir Ally
What's the explanation of Surah Al Aa'raf verse no. 81???
Exactly, my thought!
al-A'raf 7:80-81
Issue with Dr. Shabir Ally is, he is living in western country. He can't offend 50% of western population by saying "Allah clearly forbids homosexuality". So like Jewish scholars, he's hiding the truth.I Allah will judge you on the day which is very harsh and hard.
It's true that he did not give a straight answer, but from what I saw, he did not condone it neither. I also wish he were straight to the point and said it as it is like Sheikh Uthman ibn Farooq would. The problem with Dr Ally is that he is an academic so he always approaches topics like he did in this video.
Shabbir try to mislead people one day you will pay
Praise be to Allaah.
I'm just curious, if the Quaran does not explicity prohibit homosexuality then should Muslims look at Biblical scripture and traditions for the awnser. Since it is explicitly prohibited in the Bible should Muslims follow the same ruling
Is the Dr. saying Islam doesn't prohibit homosexuality?
I love sabhir ally
He's so open-minded and accepting!! As a muslim female revert i'm quite impressed by his way of analysing certain issues, it's very refreshing 😊
Being openminded is not a good quality perse.
Would you be open minded to drugs? Why not? Are you not openminded?
So please refrain from using this word as its not a good quality in and of itself. It can be. But it can also be the contrary.
We are not accepting of everyone. Criminals are not accepted. Lgbtq falls under that category. Wich means they have to distance themselves from performing evil acts and change themselves for islam. And thats the key. Islam changes people. No people changes islam.
Welcome to islam the truth sister!
Make sure you read the Quran to know about it more.
The biggest crime/ sin of people of Lot was homosexuality, it is clearly mentioned, just look at how Dr. Shabir diminishes and in a way hides it by saying that it is 'one of many sins' NO! HOMOSEXUALITY WAS AND IS A MAJOR SIN!
There are Sahih (Authentic) hadith in harmony with verses of the Qur'an referring to sin of the people of Lot. Why didn't Dr Shabir mentioned those, for example in Chapter 7 and verses 80 to 81 of the the Qur'an.
'And (remember) When Lot scolded (the men of) his people (saying,) "Do you commit a shameful deed that no man has ever done before? You lust after men instead of women! You are certainly transgressors".
Im honestly shocked by Dr. Shabir's poor scholarship and methodology of approaching the Qur'an.
I'm a long time subscriber to this channel and have been listening to Dr. Shabir for many years now even before he started this show.
I Stumbled upon this video and was utterly shocked at his interpretation of verse 31 of Chapter 24 of the Qur'an. In that verse, the 'male attendant free from sexual urges' either is due to advanced age, mental weakness, poverty or low social position, so that he cannot have the boldness to think evilly of his master’s wife, daughter, sister or mother.
You can't use that verse to push your evil narrative of normalizing homosexuality. Now It doesn't feel like let the Qur'an speak anymore instead its more like let Dr. Shabir say what he thinks is the right thing and then speak on behalf of the Qur'an.
It was not about homosexuality but greedyness. Ezekiel explained it. The whole Torah is metaphoric in a figurative language. Fools of our time take it literally. Why creator made me homosexual? His fault and not mine. Ezekiel 16: 49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
Sura al Araf (you lust for men, not women). How can story of Lut be misinterpreted so bad, especially by a person who claims to have knowledge!
80. And Lot, when he said to his people, “Do you commit lewdness no people anywhere have ever committed before you?”
81. “You lust after men rather than women. You are an excessive people.”
82. And his people's only answer was to say, “Expel them from your town; they are purist people.”
83. But We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who lagged behind.
84. And We rained down on them a rain; note the consequences for the sinners.
Islam forbids homosexuality.
Surah Al-A'raf 7:81 "Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
“Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.” - Tirmidhi (1456), Abu Dawood (4462)and Ibn Maajah (2561)
Kawa Kurdi All daeef
Nope, Surah Araf mentions adultery between homosexual people. Dr. Shabir Ally is talking about homosexual orientations. You are bigoted and clearly cannot see the difference,
Dr. Shabir Ally always brings a good dose of common sense and tolerance to such matters. He is very impressive.
The Quran says that homosexuality is bad but also that we should respect their opinions because Allah will punish them. It's not our duty to punish someones opinion.
Sir the verse Quran 24:31 that you mentioned clearly states male servants who have No sexual orientation.
Asexual servants?
@@e.faithanson7058 indeed.
وقال سبحانه : ( لَعَمْرُكَ إِنَّهُمْ لَفِي سَكْرَتِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ . فَأَخَذَتْهُمُ الصَّيْحَةُ مُشْرِقِينَ . فَجَعَلْنَا عَالِيَهَا سَافِلَهَا وَأَمْطَرْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ حِجَارَةً مِنْ سِجِّيلٍ . إِنَّ فِي ذَلِكَ لآيَاتٍ لِلْمُتَوَسِّمِينَ وَإِنَّهَا لَبِسَبِيلٍ مُقِيمٍ ) وروى الترمذي (1456) وأبو داود (4462) وابن ماجه (2561) عَنْ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ رضي الله عنهما قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : ( مَنْ وَجَدْتُمُوهُ يَعْمَلُ عَمَلَ قَوْمِ لُوطٍ فَاقْتُلُوا الْفَاعِلَ وَالْمَفْعُولَ بِهِ ) وصححه الألباني في صحيح الترمذي . وقد أجمع الصحابة على قتل اللوطي ، لكن اختلفوا في طريقة قتله ، فمنهم من ذهب إلى أن يحرق بالنار ، وهذا قول علي رضي الله عنه ، وبه أخذ أبو بكر رضي الله عنه ، كما سيأتي . ومنهم قال : يرمى به من أعلى شاهق ، ويتبع بالحجارة ، وهذا قول ابن عباس رضي الله عنه .
ومنهم من قال : يرجم بالحجارة حتى يموت ، وهذا مروي عن علي وابن عباس أيضاً .
Ya Allah, this is so sad.
Look at what the people in the comments are saying... its okay to be a practicing homosexual and a Muslim.
Just because one man went crazy.
Don't ignore the Quran ya nass.
Don't ignore the Hadith ya people.
Read for yourself, I can tell none of y'all has read the Quran, otherwise this would not be a topic of debate.
You are right my colleague, Dr. Shabir is either intentionally or blindly fighting the Law of Islam. Everything is clear in the Quran, a lot of verses he didn't want to cite or ignored knowingly.
@@me-jay can you please elaborate? I'm curious about this topic.
وَلُوطًا إِذۡ قَالَ لِقَوۡمِهِۦٓ أَتَأۡتُونَ ٱلۡفَٰحِشَةَ مَا سَبَقَكُم بِهَا مِنۡ أَحَدٖ مِّنَ ٱلۡعَٰلَمِينَ
(Sahih International)
And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?
-Surah Al-A'raf, Ayah 80
إِنَّكُمۡ لَتَأۡتُونَ ٱلرِّجَالَ شَهۡوَةٗ مِّن دُونِ ٱلنِّسَآءِۚ بَلۡ أَنتُمۡ قَوۡمٞ مُّسۡرِفُونَ
(Sahih International)
Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
-Surah Al-A'raf, Ayah 81
is he saying it's not haram?
Although this is an academic perspective but this Perspective can misguide some people on TH-cam. It is better to remain this in the academic books, where we can read it in full details. As for You tube, he should be more clearer or don't discuss at all
He actually misleading people or misrepresent islam. Islam clearly describes what is wrong and what is right. If western world supports homosexuality it doesn't mean it is right. Why didn't you mentioned chapter 7 verse no 81.
this misguided man forgets to mention " allah says in quran the people of lut did faahisha(evil) that none before them had done.. " whats was that? not idol worship as it was done before?
Mohammed Tahid homosexuality existed way before lut. FACT
didn't Lut commit depravity not homosexuality