So Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen are biological brothers and not step brothers. The story behind their different last names is that when their family immigrated to the US from Spain, their dad, Ramón Antonio Gerardo Estévez, decided to change his name because he felt a Spanish name would result in him not getting work in the industry due to racial prejudices. So Ramón Antonio Gerardo Estévez, legally changed his name to Martin Sheen. Emilio opted to keep his ancestral name while his younger brother, Charlie opted for the legal name.
Martin Sheen never changed his name. His drivers licence and passport still say Carlos Estevez. Its just his stage name. These days he regrets using it,.. I wish I'd had the guts to have kept it. My dad didnt like that i stopped using my real name.. That's a big regret today.. Quote MS.
@@bryanstoudenmire ...which is how a Pug got its name. A Pug has a flat nose, like boxers with their all to common broken noses. ...just kidding. There is no relation between a Pug and a pugilist.
Emilio told David Letterman that he practiced saying it for a few days before deciding that "Emilio Sheen" sounded completely stupid to him. (Read More) EDIT: Martin Sheen was sitting next to him on the show and started laughing pretty hard when Emilio mentioned this.
Love reaction videos but they often miss the popular lines cause they aren't aware. Dirty steve saying "uh huh" when Billy gasses him up is one of the other big misses
I love these movies. I have three western posters in me ManCave. Young Guns 2 (better poster), Silverado and my personal favorite Tombstone I’m not sure if you did Tombstone yeet but if you haven’t , rectify that at your earliest convenience. 😉
15:59 No, that character played by Sam Rockwell in "The Green Mile" was only called "Billy the Kid" as a nickname because he was an outlaw like Billy the Kid. He even gets angry when called "Wild Bill" because "Wild Bill Hickock" was a lawman.
For those of us who grew up in the 80s with this, it's a classic. The younger group of up and coming actors, the soundtrack....we loved it and still do. Regulators, mount up!
Growing up on cable and HBO I saw this film 100 times and loved it. I have seen a few reactions to it and it doesn't seem to have the lasting power with modern audiences. Neither does ET though and that was the highest grossing film of all time when I was young.
Funfact: After the Lincoln County War Susan McSween became known as the 'Cattle Queen of New Mexico' as she was one of the richest female cattle barons (baroness) in the history of the United States. I've visited her gravesite at White Oaks New Mexico (ghost town) cemetery numerous times. Now you have to watch 'Young Guns II' to see how this saga finally concludes 😀
@@purplep6070 YG2 was the tall tales of Brushy Bill. He implied that Chavez died and that he out lived Doc. TRUTH is, Chavez was an old man on a reservation when he went, and Doc made it back east to became a full-time teacher. Emilio has been working on getting YG3 going for decades and it may finally happen... WITH Chavez. Also Arkansas Dave DID lose his head south of the border, but it was many years later.
Young Guns 2 is my favourite western of all time. Probably because my mom got me a VHS copy and I didn’t own a lot of them at the time so I watched it over and over.
Young Guns 2 is one of those rare cases where the sequel is better than the original. So many quotable lines, Blaze Of Glory by Bon Jovi was an epic song for a movie.
@@rickpedia6724 There was something when I was a kid called "Columbia house". It was something you could subscribe to and there was one for books and one for movies. The deal was they would send you a catalog of all the movies on VHS they had. You would pick like ten movies and they would send you these ten movies. And you then only had to buy 5 from them for the next three years. A few of my friends were in that as well. It was an incredible deal. And since movies on VHS cost so much back then, it ended up being pretty affordable. Can you imagine, for kids, it was a dream come true.
This movie follows Billy the Kid and his role in the Lincoln-County War. The reason they paused when Billy met Pat Garrett is because in real life, Pat and Billy were associates, even friends. But Billy became an outlaw, and Pat became a sheriff. In the end, Pat Garrett earned fame for being the man who killed Billy the Kid.
Love the theme but those colt new service revolvers (massively anachronistic) being used by one of the actors (not sure which) will never not annoy me.
@@BoondockRoberts The actors were not able to shoot quickly enough with single-action revolvers. In "The White Buffalo" they did the same thing when Charles Bronson had to fire quickly while lying down on bunk on a passenger train.
Young Guns II has an epic orchestral score by Alan Silvestri (Back to the Future, Predator, Forrest Gump, Polar Express, Avengers, etc...) w/ rock songs during the end credits by Jon Bon Jovi (Blaze of Glory album featuring Jeff Beck, Elton John, Little Richard, etc...).
“He ate and laughed, drank and laughed, rode and laughed, talked and laughed, fought and laughed, and killed and laughed.” Quote from The Authentic Life of Billy the Kid, written by Pat Garrett.
This and Young Guns 2 are the only Westerns I've ever watched and enjoyed. I remember being a teen when YG2 came out and it introduced me to Bon Jovi through the soundtrack... 30 years later and Bon Jovi is still my all-time favorite band. This movie is a classic.
Young Guns 1 & 2 are based historical events of the Lincoln County War and Billy the Kid. The movies have several historical inaccuracies, Tunstul wasn't an old man, it leaves out Murphy's business partner Jimmy Dolan, there were close to 40 Regulators.
I own a home in New Mexico outside Lincoln County and have pictures of Billy the Kids grave. And yes it does say “pals” on it. In fact, so many people have tried to steal his tombstone, it’s got an iron cage around it now.
Happy to see you went into western movies. Concerning Billy the Kid, I advise you to watch another movie, "Chisum" (1970) with John Wayne. Billy the Kid and Pat Garett are 2 characters in this movie, where John Wayne is splendid
You're serious? Then I assume that you haven't seen much of the real classics. "Young Guns" isn't bad, but nothing compared to movies like "The Searchers", "Red River", "Rio Bravo", "The Magnificent Seven", "The Professionals", "Once Upon a Time in the West", "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly", "El Dorado", "Shane", "Vera Cruz", "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon", Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid", "The Wild Bunch", "The Outlaw Josey Wales" etc. etc. etc. One of the last, truly epic westerns was Kevin Costner's "Open Range".
@@tomcody2203 I grew up watching movies of the 80s and 90s movies. I might have forgotten to mention "Pale Rider," but yeah... What I've listed is all I can testify to.
@@tomcody2203 You are listing some true classics, I can only add two more: Stagecoach and Liberty Valance. High Noon Is in a different style, but It has Coop. After watching all the films you mention one gets picky and not so easy to please!
Emilio Estevez is in a couple of really fun movies, Stakeout and Another Stakeout, from around the same era, late 80s/early 90s I think. His banter and chemistry with Richard Dreyfuss is up there with Riggs and Murtagh in the buddy cop genre
@@rexbanner8999 Presumably that he was lying. Because he did exist. Whether he was actually Billy is a matter for debate. I take more exception to that movie killing off Chavez and Doc because both of them lived well into the 20th century and died of natural causes. Just like in this one Billy didn't actually kill Lawrence Murphy, but at least the timeframe was closer.
I looked through the comments and didn't see anybody else mention this yet: Billy the Kid wasn't really left handed. In the photo of him his holster is on the left side, but it was actually printed mirror-image due to the photography method used at the time. This was only recently discovered.
Good point. Paul Newman's version was called "The left handed gun".I had pictures taken in Banner Elk N.C. in '77 in a shop that used the old camera, had to sit still a long time holding a banjo and I did come out left handed on a sepia tone metal plate.The first Billy I saw on screen was Robert Taylor, truly handsome but twice his age.The Outlaw by H.Hughes was made to show off Jane Russell's body and the plot is fake.
I know "it's personal preference" but isn't there a strong case for people riding with the holster on the opposite side to their dominant hand in a reverse grip position, and reach across?
i@rageagainstmyhatchet To cross draw, the gun would have to be pointing backwards in the holster on the opposite hip. That was not the case with Billy, so he had to use a normal draw from the hip.
@@JackChurchill101 If I am not mistaken Wild Bill did that with two guns , crossing his arms to draw, or It might be a movie gimmick to create momentum...
@@JackChurchill101 I don't really see it (in the mostly mythical "quickdraw" it'd be slower and otherwise it's basically irrelevant for wearing _one_ gun). If you carried _two_ pistols though then you may well wear your second gun that way (because then it's already setup to quickly grab with your shooting hand _after_ your first gun is empty) and maybe that was more common in the days before speed loaders etc.
Young Guns is among the best westerns ever!!!!! They don’t give tons of backstory because it’s not needed. Most know who Billy the Kid is, he’s literally the most famous American outlaw and the Lincoln County war is infamous,
I love this movie and the sequel, they're two of the most watched movies my brother and I have seen growing up and continue to do so when we get time to see each other over the years. I hope Cassie will get to watch part 2 as well.
Cassie, check out the 1990 version of the movie Flatliners. Keifer Sutherland is in that one as well, he plays a VERY interesting character in that, that is all I will say about that without spoiling it.
I thoroughly enjoyed "Flatliners" when I saw that back in 1990 in theatre, and I know there are some that may not like this as much as maybe the newer one, but I feel the 1990 version, yes has a great cast but there are a lot of layers to it. Also can't wait for the reaction to "Young Guns II". IF She likes or enjoys "Grey's Anatomy"; Would she enjoy "Mary Shelly's Frankenstein" with Robert De Niro?
This movie actually has a lot less inaccuracies than it looks like by the way. Most of these scenes are at LEAST based on stories about Built The Kid. Whether they were true or not. A lot of the scenes that look like they never happened are actually true historical fact. In fact, one of the only unrealistic things about this movie is that Billy comes across as proud that he killed all the men he did, in real life it's said that every man he killed haunted him. I actually found a whole website that compares the movie to actual historical record when I was 13. I'm only going off of my memory, but I know for a fact that a lot of these things actually happened
The actor who plays Charlie was in a good 80s movie called “3 o’Clock High”. He plays a wimpy kid that ticks off the new kid at his school and has to fight him after school is out. Most of the movie is him trying to get out of it. It’s pretty funny and actually has a deeper meaning at the end.
Donald Sutherland is AMAZING as Oddball.. Woof Woof.. And in the same "genre" he also played "Hawkeye Pierce" in 1970's movie of "M*A*S*H" which is also a great film in it's own righth.
@@jaquesshugossen9398 He was also in The Dirty Dozen , originally it was only a small part with not many lines but Clint Walker let him have a lot of his lines in order to boost up the part ....
@@brianjones7907 That is right! I think he was quite the comedian there too :-) He has a very "infective" smile and laugh. When he smiles and laughs, you just have to do the same.
Apparently Martin Sheen never legally changed it: He uses Martin Sheen professionally, but he said his driver's licence, passport, etc. are still and have always been under the name Ramon Estevez.
Martin used a stage name because the US is known for being bigots and racists especialy in the 1950s when martin started going by sheen. Good on emilio for using his real faminly surename.
@@ResidentPetrolhead I'm pretty sure I've read that it's the same thing for Charlie Sheen. His professional name is Charlie Sheen but his legal name is Carlos Estevez. They have another brother who's a photographer who is named Ramon Estevez like their father.
Third movie. Also a great watch. Thank you. Wait til you see Young Guns II. It’s even better! Not the same kind of music. The best western ever made is Tombstone. I cannot WAIT to see your reaction to that! Val Kilmer is BRILLIANT in it. One of the greatest roles in all cinema history.
Charlie and Emilio's father Martin Sheen did a pretty good western in 1979 called "Eagles Wing". He also starred with his son Emilio,who also directed, in a movie called "The Way". Warning, this one will break your heart.
The real-life John Tunstall was only about 4 or 5 years older than the other guys. Young Guns 2 goes deeper into the story of Billy and his relationship with Garrett (played by William Peterson from the show CSI). A man named Brushy Bill Roberts came forward in the 1950s, claiming to be Billy The Kid, saying he wanted a full pardon for the 21 men he killed. The movie starts out in the 50's, with Roberts telling the story to a reporter. Christian Slater had become a huge star in the time since the release of Young Guns and he's also in it. James Coburn, who once played Garrett in another western is in it. Jon Bon Jovi has a tiny cameo in it as well as writing the lead single from the soundtrack. Jeff Beck lends a hand to the soundtrack as well, providing guitar tracks. You're right, there is a scene in YGII where Billy ends up in jail, but escapes. In my opinion, it's just as good, if not better. Some say it's even better than the original.
Fun fact Billy the Kid is originally from Hell's kitchen New York but in his travels he'd go back and forth from the US to Mexico that's why he was so fluent in Spanish.
What an excellent movie to react to. A forgotten gem I don't think I've seen anyone else do a reaction to! Young guns 2 was my favourite though if i remember correctly.
Watched a History Channel show about Billy the Kid. Was surprised to find that most of what you see in this movie it true. A few splashes of Hollywood but very accurate.
Gotta let you know Cass...the guy in Green Mile just called himself Billy the kid...he wasn't William h. Bonnie. Can't wait for your reaction to young guns 2
It was William Wharton in The Green Mile that called himself Billy the Kid....had a tattoo of it. He got pissed off if anyone called him Wild Bill....a "two gun plainsman who got shot in the back of the head."
If you like lou diamond Phillips, then I would like to recommend La Bamba. Which is based off the true story of the first Mexican American rock and roller name Richie Valens ❤
This one made me a fan of Emilio Estevez. You know he's Charlie Sheen's brother, right? Another western based on actual historical characters. Pugilist: essentially, a boxer. If the soundtrack threw you in this one, II will as well. Even has some stuff from Jon Bon Jovi.
This ranks as one of my favorite westerns; up there with The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976), Unforgiven, and Tombstone (1993). Interesting fact: As others might have stated, Tom Cruise has a cameo here in Young Guns. He played one of the "Murphy Men" who gets shot at the end. Years later, Emilio Estevez returned the favor to Tom by appearing uncredited at the beginning of Mission: Impossible (1996); he played Jack, a member of Ethan Hunt's team. Hope that you will react to Young Guns II (1990); as well as maybe doing a music video reaction to the song "Blaze of Glory" by Jon Bon Jovi. He even has a very short cameo in that film as well, but that's another story...
Loved the reaction Cassie. Another one I wish Carly was here for but,... Anyway this movie/story was based loosely on the real life story of Billy the kid and the Lincoln County cattle war. This is my favorite 80's western film. I loved this movie and it's sequel. PLEASE do a reaction to "Young Guns 2" as well. It has a little more humor to it than this one, but it also explains some the parts you were confused by in this film. Mostly the Pat Garrett, "awkward moment".
So theres another movie which explains the relationship between Billy & Pat and little more. Basically this movie focuses on the business disputes between the English & Irish entrepreneurs; Tunstall, Murphy, and Dolan. After their deaths & the Lincoln county war; Billy is a wanted man for murder. But he’s in an area where he’s loved, in and around Arizona & what would become New Mexico. The main thing to remember is Billy lived from 1859-1881, and was an east coast criminal. He was from NYC originally. He moved to the southern states because of the lawlessness, he knew that he could profit from effectively being a psychopath, the same as a lot of criminals at that time. Keep in mind that New Mexico didn’t become a US state until 1912. Nobody knows the true version of the events which happened, but the one certainty is that the people of New Mexico & Arizona used to love Billy. They would feed him, house him, harbour him from the law. Because they didn’t like the idea of the Union of the USA. They were all confederate supporters and many would have relatives in the confederate army. They didn’t like the entire hierarchy from president, to state governors, to US Marshall’s, to local law enforcement. So the fact that Billy was fighting against all of that after the Lincoln county wars was music to their ears. He was their hero. The relationship between Pat & Billy is complicated and Pat’s book “the authentic life of Billy the Kid”, is one of the only credible sources to go off of. In the book he details how it really was the Wild West, and that you could see a man shoot another man one week and be trialled as a murderer, then the same man could murder a different man the next week and be wearing a badge and it would be totally fine. The truth is that the area was simply in chaos and that the general consensus down there was that they didn’t like anything which represents the Union. Pat was an outlaw himself for a time, until he was hired to hunt down Billy - effectively a bounty hunter with a badge and was an acting sworn US Marshall. He found Billy the night he was “killed” in Fort Summer, New Mexico; whether or not Pat killed Billy is always a topic of debate. The account says that there was an argument between the two in Spanish and shots were fired. A body was recovered and said to be that of Henry McCarty (Billy the Kid), the body was buried and overnight the inscription appeared on the headstone “pals”. All of the above is a matter of fact; what is up for debate is who is in that grave. There are generally two accounts. One being that Pat killed Billy like he was hired to do, and buried him accordingly. Then Pat inscribed the word onto the headstone out of respect for both his friend & eventual adversary. The other account and generally the more romanticised version of events is that Pat found Billy, faked a confrontation in Spanish so that a lot of the third party eyewitnesses couldn’t translate, then killed a random boy around the age of 21 and staged the assassination of Billy. The inscription is then said to have been written on the grave by Billy himself to show respect to his old friend Pat for letting him go, as long as he vowed to vanish and never return. This theory is backed up by multiple people having claimed to be Billy the Kid in later life; most of these have been immediately disproven. 1948 a Texas man named “Brushy” Bill Roberts had claimed to be Billy the Kid; and sought a pardon from the courts as he didn’t want to die with the guilt of what he’d done. There is still a Billy the Kid museum in Hico, Texas where Brushy Bill had liver & died. The dates of when he arrived in the town did actually correlate to when Billy was last seen in New Mexico. Brushy Bill also was open to exhuming graves of his mother and the body in Fort Sumner and to provide DNA himself to prove his identity. But New Mexico governor Thomas J. Mabry had refused this and stated that enough chaos and murder had been caused by this man in his life, and he wasn’t about to add more to that list by digging up bodies long after his death. The other suspicious facts surrounding his “death” were the DNA evidence provided by Lincoln County in the investigations. They provided Bonney’s blood samples which provided no conclusive evidence and thusly disproving Pat Garrett’s generally accepted version of events. Lincoln county was sued from 2007-2014 by amateur historians. The lawsuit ended up costing Lincoln County over $300,000.
It's a Western based very loosely on real events. In real life there were more than eleven Regulators at the Blazer's Mill Gunfight where Brushy Bill Roberts and Dick Brewer died. The killing of Joe Grant the arrogant gunfighter that Billy takes the bullets of his gun. Happened later in the Kid's life after the Lincoln County War ended. Charlie Bowdre and Doc Scurlock in real life were brother in laws, they had married a pair of Mexican sisters who's father was also involved in the Lincoln County War, on the Tunstall-McSween side. (In fact Doc and Charlie first met Billy when they hired him to work in a Cheese Factory they ran in Arizona). The McSween House fight lasted for five days and their were 50 on the side of the Regulators spread throughout the town of LIncoln. Though they were still outnumbered by the Murphy-Dolan faction. It got worse when the Army showed up on the side of the Murphy. The fight ended when the Regulators trapped in the McSween house tried to sneak out in the middle of the night. Alexander McSween was killed in the ensuing gun battle, he was a pacifist and thus didn't have a gun. Murphy also didn't meet his end at Billy's hand either, he died of cancer instead.
Yeah just due to time constraints you will see that a lot in movies. Another great example is from Tombstone where Virgil and Morgan look like they were both shot in the same night whereas in real life they were shot just shy of three months apart from each other.
Young Guns is an underrated franchise. A bunch of young, new actors on the rise in a western. This was when westerns weren't much of a thing anymore. The sequel is just as good. Another movie that I think you would really enjoy is City Slickers. It's a comedy / quasi-western starring Billy Crystal. It also stars Jack Palance who played Murphy in this. Quite possibly his finest performance that won him an Oscar.
This is one of the best westerns ever. Historically, it's pretty close to what actually happened. Not exact, but pretty close. This portrayal of Billy the Kid is almost spot on. He was a unique person. He was intelligent, funny, and extremely loyal, but he was also a killer. His desire to avenge Tunstall was accurate. He had a closeness to Tunstall that was never really explained. There were well over 40 regulators, not just the handful portrayed in the movie. Murphy worked with a man named Dolan. They indeed had a monopoly on the cattle business in Lincoln County. There's arguements that Tunstall and McSween were just as ruthless as the Murphy / Dolan faction, but it's my opinion based on what I've read that the M/D faction was the bad guys in this whole ordeal. Dirty Steve is a conglomeration of several Regulators and isn't necessarily a real person. The others were. The shootout at the end is pretty accurate. The house was set ablaze and the Regulators escaped. McSween was shot down, but not by a Gatling gun. Murphy died in bed from cancer. Billy didn't shoot him. Overall, the movie was accurate with a few dramatic licenses taken. Young Guns 2 was less accurate and not as entertaining. The death of Billy the Kid is surrounded with discrepancies, and it's my opinion that he was not killed by Pat Garrett who was proven to be a liar. His book, "The Life of Billy the Kid" was proven to be almost complete BS. I think Billy survived and was indeed Brushy Bill Roberts...But that's a whole other story.
Charlie Sheen and Kiefer Sutherland have an other movie together, "The Three Musketeers" from 1993! Theres also starring Oliver Platt, Chris O'Donnell, Rebecca De Mornay and as villain the great Tim Curry! For me its the best Musketeer movie and its a lot of fun to watch! Maybe you want to react on this movie, i think you will like it!
I saw Young Guns at the movie theater. At this point in my life I regret that I paid to see this, but didn't see Unforgiven or Tombstone or even Silverado in the theater. I missed a lot of movies back in the 80s and 90s and even the 00s. I'm glad I get to experience them now with some of my favorite movie reacting people.
"Young Guns II" is significantly better IMO (despite, somehow, managing to be even _less_ historically accurate :) but this one's still fun in an "MTV Western" kind of way.
It's still one of my favorite Westerners. I saw it as a kid, and it was the first western I really liked. Now that I'm much older lol I like a lot of different westerners, but this one is the one that started it for me.
Jack Palance played the older bad guy mob boss in charge of the mafia in Gotham City, in the 1989 Batman movie; Terrance Stamp played the villain Zod, in the Superman II movie, as other Kryptonians opposite to Superman; Terry O'Quinn has been in so many movies & tv shows.
Emilio had a house in my town in Montana. One night my friend and I were walking out of the hardware store and a guy I didn't recognize held the door open for us. My friend did recognize him. He looked different because he had the lambchop sideburns he grew out to film Young Guns. He was a nice, regular guy, drove a Toyota pickup.
Found myself in Lincoln county last year. Then found John Tungstals store looking the same as the late 1880s and realized I was standing where Billy had been and sheriff Pat Brady's great great grandson was picking up his mail just yards away from where Pat was shot by Billy. It was surreal
In regards to Kiefer Sutherland, one mark of a good actor is when they can make you both love and hate them in different roles. Shows their range instead of just being typecast in a particular character role.
Cassie, you want to see a great Western? Check out 1995's "The Quick and the Dead." Sam Raimi directs an all star cast Sharon Stone, Leo Dicaprio, Russell Crowd, Gene Hackman, Keith David, and Gary Sinese. And buried somewhere is the ole' Delta 88!
Charley: We work for Mr. Tunstall as regulators. We regulate any stealing off his property - we're damn good too! Mr. Tunstall's got a soft spot for runaways, dareless, vagrant types. But you can't be any geek off the street, gotta be handy with the steel, if you know what I mean, earn your keep.
This was fairly historically accurate but for a few things. Tunstall wasn't old , but in his early 20s. But the Lincoln County war part is pretty accurate
Until recently there had only ever been one verified photo of Billy the Kid. A man happened to buy a stack of three photos for $2 in an antique shop and soon discovered he had inadvertently found a second photo of Billy the Kid. After 5 years of very meticulous scrutiny by experts from around the country is was authenticated. The man sold the photo at auction for $5 million. Quite a rosy profit for a $2 investment in a piece of history.
This was a western for teen boys. It did it’s job. Men my age now instantly recognize the call lol. “Regulators!” That and “Wolverines!” from Red Dawn are instant transportation words for us.
In real life, Billy the Kid (Emilio Estevez) was killed by Pat Garrett (Patrick Wayne). Charlie and Emilio are brothers. Marton Sheen is their father. Martin's real last name is Estevez. They have a sister who is an actress as well. I used to deliver to Lou Diamind Phillips. A really nice guy. A pugilist is a boxer. People shoot huns in the air. The bullets have to come back down at some point. This is not an accurate Billy the Kid story. In The Green Mile, Sam Rockwell was playing a guy who called himself Billy the Kid, but was not the Billy.
Also, according to historians, Billy and Dick actually got along really well and there was no power struggle between them. They all followed him without question
The woman Charlie goes to see is actually his mother. He knows it, she doesnt. Thats why he just wants to hug her, he's scared and wants his mom. True story.
this movie holds the honor of being just about the most historically accurate telling of billy the kid and the regulators ever to be put on film. during the making, the director had a new mexico historian [paul andrew hutton] on set, to make sure what was being filmed was right [sets, costumes, plot, script, etc]. by the end of it, the historian stated young guns was, "the most historically accurate of all Billy the Kid films as of June 1990." one of the more glaring "changes" was tunstall's age. when he was killed, tunstall was just 24years old- only a few years older than billy himself. this was because the director felt the audience wouldn't seriously take a group of guys like the regulators following orders from someone far younger than them [all but billy were in their 30s and 40s].
wow just yesterday i was thinking people need to suggest this movie and it's sequel to more reactors , .. it's like many people forget this movie. i've always loved this movie and the sequel. and for the record this is more than just a western , this is actual history of billy the kid and his gang. Pat Garrette jioned billy teh kid's gang for a while , till they went "off the rails" so to speak. He was a good friend of billy the kid's . he is also the alwman (later on in life) that alledgedly shot billy in the back to claim the bounty on his head , however in the 1920's an old man turned up claiming to be billy the kid. The old man knew many details of billy's life that even a well educated historian wouldn't have known. So it became a big mystery surrounding the life of billy the kid. Did pat garrette really kill Billy the kid , or did they fake billy's death ? no one will ever know ... but yeah you got to watch part 2 at some point now. silverado is fictional ... this story is not.
Since you like that scene (and so do I), I suggest you check out Tom Horn (1980) with Steve McQueen. There is a scene when Horn asks a rustler if he got Horn's note and things don't go exactly to plan, it kinda reminds me of the scene here with Brian Keith.
Young Guns 2 imo has the best soundtrack of the western movies i've seen, it's literally a whole Jon Bon Jovi album written just for the movie and please watch it 😀also check out the Blaze of Glory video by Bon Jovi
Crazy story. When I was a teenager, a friend and I went to see this movie at the theater. When we came out, the police had everything roped off as there had been an actual shooting just outside the front door of the theater while we were in watching the movie. It was crazy surreal. Especially after watching Young Guns with so much make believe gun violence.
The character from the movie The Green Mile, was William "Wild Bill" Wharton, played by Sam Rockwell. The fictional character was an admirer of Billy the Kid and would occasionally refer to himself by that name. But he was not actually THE Billy the Kid, nor was he related to him in any meaningful way.
Not all Westerns are alike. “Silverado” was meant for a general audience. “Young Guns” was specifically marketed at young men and their fathers. That’s why the whole movie is centered around the death of the Regulators’ surrogate father. It was “nostalgia bait” before that was even a thing. Considering all of that, I would call this a straight-up “guy” movie, and therefore really isn’t for everyone (much like “Big Trouble in Little China”).
Dunno - casting a bunch of guys who were kind of idols of the time also was aimed at young women. Sheen, Estevez, Philips and Sutherland were the young stars of the day.
So, because she said it and in case people don’t know- Martin Sheen is Charlie Sheen’s and Emilio Estevez’s dad. Martin Sheen’s real name is Ramon Antonio Estevez and Charlie Sheen’s real name is Carlos Estevez and then their brother Emilio (from Mighty Ducks).
If you felt that the interaction between Billy The Kid (Emilio Estevez) and Pat Garrett at the village dance was weird, it's because he will be the one who famously killed Billy by shooting him in the back. This is also why the dialogue that follows where Billy says that he will one day be more popular than him is prophetic. This is also why, later in the film, Pat Garrett surprises Billy from behind by starting a conversation... and Billy tests him by turning his back and asking him: "Are you my friend?" to which Pat replies that he is... I must have seen this film about thirty times. I remember being shocked to see Charlie Sheen and Terence Stamp's character die so quickly. That year (1987), Keifer Sutherland also played a vampire in ''The Lost Boys''. What an actor! A comboy-poet in this film and a bloodthirsty vampire in the other. And we believe him in both of them. For me, the funniest scene is near the end when Billy shoots a star cowboy (Charley Crawford). -Billy: Hey Peppin!i -Peppin: I'm hearin' you, Billy! -Billy: I see you've got Charley Crawford down there with you! -Peppin: Yeah, we got a whole lot! Billy proceeds to shoot Charley Crawford. -Billy: Hey Peppin', Charley Crawford ain't with you anymore! The scene that follows where the group attempts to heroically escape is poignant. The sequel is not as good but still worth it... especially for the Jon Bon Jovi song and the score by the great Alan Silvestri.
@@SimonRiley752 My memory is what it is but isn't that a little bit the plot of the second ''Young Guns''? Well, maybe not the plot itself but one of the ''punchline'' of the film?
Dramatic license in terms of the ages of characters, the number of Regulators, the scale of the Lincoln County War between Murphy and Tunstall's men (and events skipped over, played out in different order or combined into one event) and the way the siege at the end plays out, YOUNG GUNS is still regarded by most historians as one of the most accurate Westerns ever made in terms of its depiction of the period and its representation of Billy The Kid in as far as we know about the historical figures. Especially in regards to Billy himself, his mannerisms and his personality; there is a lot of accounts about the man who suggest he was very educated, incredibly smart and also suffered from trauma and childhood PTSD that made him so reckless and fed his tendency for murdering anyone who he felt was evil and deserved it (and also Estevez's depiction of Billy's trademark laugh). Probably the film's biggest inaccuracies are the other characters - many of them are changed or have characteristics of other Regulartors who don't appear in the film. Some Regulators actually survived or died in different places and circumstances (this is something they notoriously do with YOUNG GUNS II as well despite also being a famously historically accurate Western). For instance: Chavez, out of all of the Regulators, is the one who probably got the most Hollywood glow-up; the guy was much older and rough-looking and dressed in a Mexican fashion, complete with moustache. Charlie also didn't die in the Lincoln County War, but rather died in events that take place in YOUNG GUNS II (which is the story of the death of Billy The Kid and made with a bigger budget and more traditional Western style). Tunstall and Murphy are drawn as obvious good guy-bad guy depictions, but their animosity was actually more nuanced: people were incredibly racist towards the Irish both in the UK and in America during the Old West and because of that abuse and racism, Murphy and his family were pushed to use any means necessary - including corruption - just to keep his home and business safe. Tunstall, as an Englishman, was very well accepted and liked in the county and the racism against Murphy drove many customers towards Tunstall out of prejudice. So yeah, the events (in general) and Billy himself are quite accurate, as is the depiction of the period. Despite being made as a Western for 80's teenagers with hearthrob leads, it actually set a standard that later Westerns in the 90's would adopt in terms of historical accuracy and depictions of people of the Old West. But there is a lot of dark tragedy in the story that makes it such an interesting thing from the Old West to study: the fact that Murphy and Tunstall both had good and bad sides to them, the fact that Billy the Kid was kind of forced into being a sociopath in order to survive because of his traumatic childhood and his extreme intelligence that he never got the chance to put to good use, the fact that the Lincoln County War was a series of very tragic injustices experienced by both sides that erupted into an out of control bloodbath. Even the gunfights are - in real history - very interesting because, despite what Hollywood shows, gunfights were really really rare. So rare that when they happened, they were almost always historically documented and given names like "The Battle of Lincoln" or "The Battle Of Stinky Springs" or "The Battle of Old Fern Mill" etc. Gunfights were BIG deals and obviously the number of people shot, wounded or killed made them very significant events in history and not just casual shoot-outs (of course cold blooded gun murders in the West were very common, but they didn't involve duels just outright killing of people who couldn't defend themselves).
The character in "The Green Mile" was not supposed to be the real Billy the Kid. He was a wannabe who called himself Billy the Kid. That's why Tom Hanks character would call him "Wild Bill" to piss him off. Also the Green Mile is set about 50 years after the events in this movie.
So Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen are biological brothers and not step brothers. The story behind their different last names is that when their family immigrated to the US from Spain, their dad, Ramón Antonio Gerardo Estévez, decided to change his name because he felt a Spanish name would result in him not getting work in the industry due to racial prejudices. So Ramón Antonio Gerardo Estévez, legally changed his name to Martin Sheen. Emilio opted to keep his ancestral name while his younger brother, Charlie opted for the legal name.
Martin Sheen never changed his name. His drivers licence and passport still say Carlos Estevez. Its just his stage name. These days he regrets using it,.. I wish I'd had the guts to have kept it. My dad didnt like that i stopped using my real name.. That's a big regret today.. Quote MS.
A pugilist is a Boxer
@@bryanstoudenmire ...which is how a Pug got its name. A Pug has a flat nose, like boxers with their all to common broken noses.
...just kidding. There is no relation between a Pug and a pugilist.
@@blanketstarry7725 hah, you remind me of the other day I convinced a coworker that SCUBA diving was invented in Cuba (submersing Cubans)
Emilio told David Letterman that he practiced saying it for a few days before deciding that "Emilio Sheen" sounded completely stupid to him. (Read More)
EDIT: Martin Sheen was sitting next to him on the show and started laughing pretty hard when Emilio mentioned this.
Dang, this left out one of my favorite lines.
“Why aren’t they trying to kill us?”
Steve:”We’re in the spirit world asshole, they can’t see us.”
Love reaction videos but they often miss the popular lines cause they aren't aware. Dirty steve saying "uh huh" when Billy gasses him up is one of the other big misses
Those are the best lines... I love this movie. Was 17 when it came out, and these were the cool kids
I love these movies. I have three western posters in me ManCave. Young Guns 2 (better poster), Silverado and my personal favorite Tombstone
I’m not sure if you did Tombstone yeet but if you haven’t , rectify that at your earliest convenience. 😉
"Is that poop?" No Cassie it is not "poop", they are stones. Good lord you are so cute.love your content keep it up.
"Hey dog - did you see the size of that chicken?!?"
The most unrealistic thing in this film is that Charlie Sheen is the only one that didn’t take the peyote!
He didn’t need to, his stuff was better … 😂
Well, he was running on tiger blood at the time so i get it... 😎
He was already winning!
Lol😂
Heathens
15:59 No, that character played by Sam Rockwell in "The Green Mile" was only called "Billy the Kid" as a nickname because he was an outlaw like Billy the Kid. He even gets angry when called "Wild Bill" because "Wild Bill Hickock" was a lawman.
For those of us who grew up in the 80s with this, it's a classic. The younger group of up and coming actors, the soundtrack....we loved it and still do. Regulators, mount up!
we had 3 channels in the U.K. and I had a betamax and only tape i had was rambo first blood. Seen that movie over 100 times before i was 16.
PALS
@@pdcookstar when Rambo comes on, I stop everything and watch it for the 2,000th time. Masterpiece
Growing up on cable and HBO I saw this film 100 times and loved it. I have seen a few reactions to it and it doesn't seem to have the lasting power with modern audiences. Neither does ET though and that was the highest grossing film of all time when I was young.
Gen X here, an absolutely agree.
Funfact: After the Lincoln County War Susan McSween became known as the 'Cattle Queen of New Mexico' as she was one of the richest female cattle barons (baroness) in the history of the United States. I've visited her gravesite at White Oaks New Mexico (ghost town) cemetery numerous times.
Now you have to watch 'Young Guns II' to see how this saga finally concludes 😀
You mean YG3... right?
@@Ron-d2sNope, YG2 concludes the known "True" story. 3 will be pure fiction. Hopefully it will still be awesome, if they ever actually get it made.
@@purplep6070 YG2 was the tall tales of Brushy Bill. He implied that Chavez died and that he out lived Doc. TRUTH is, Chavez was an old man on a reservation when he went, and Doc made it back east to became a full-time teacher.
Emilio has been working on getting YG3 going for decades and it may finally happen... WITH Chavez.
Also Arkansas Dave DID lose his head south of the border, but it was many years later.
Young Guns 2 is my favourite western of all time. Probably because my mom got me a VHS copy and I didn’t own a lot of them at the time so I watched it over and over.
VHS tapes used to cost a lot of money. I totally get what you're saying.
Young Guns 2 is one of those rare cases where the sequel is better than the original. So many quotable lines, Blaze Of Glory by Bon Jovi was an epic song for a movie.
@@rickpedia6724 There was something when I was a kid called "Columbia house". It was something you could subscribe to and there was one for books and one for movies. The deal was they would send you a catalog of all the movies on VHS they had. You would pick like ten movies and they would send you these ten movies. And you then only had to buy 5 from them for the next three years. A few of my friends were in that as well. It was an incredible deal. And since movies on VHS cost so much back then, it ended up being pretty affordable. Can you imagine, for kids, it was a dream come true.
Young Guns 2 is a better film. I'm sure Cassie would enjoy it more.
Then you need to watch more Westerns.
You would love Young Guns 2 even more! Btw.. Emilio is working on Young Guns 3 right now :)
We have to get her to watch "La Bamba", a Lou Diamond Phillips classic.
NOT MY RITCHIE!!!! 😭
But seriously, I think Cassie would really enjoy it.
He's amazing in "Stand and Deliver" as well. One of those inspirational teacher films.
I'm a huge Waylon Jennings fan. So thankful he gave up his seat on that plane. The world lost a lot of talent that day. 😥
So sad, Lou was great in that as well
La Bamba is a terrific film. I cry every time.
This movie follows Billy the Kid and his role in the Lincoln-County War.
The reason they paused when Billy met Pat Garrett is because in real life, Pat and Billy were associates, even friends. But Billy became an outlaw, and Pat became a sheriff. In the end, Pat Garrett earned fame for being the man who killed Billy the Kid.
Young Guns has one of the best opening sequences of all time. It's shot and edited masterfully with an epic guitar track that sets the tone.
Let's Not also to forget the Famous "Regulator Depiction Moto/Quote" was used in Warren G's song "Regulate".
Love the theme but those colt new service revolvers (massively anachronistic) being used by one of the actors (not sure which) will never not annoy me.
Hair Metal radness. Slash would approve.
@@BoondockRoberts The actors were not able to shoot quickly enough with single-action revolvers. In "The White Buffalo" they did the same thing when Charles Bronson had to fire quickly while lying down on bunk on a passenger train.
Young Guns II has an epic orchestral score by Alan Silvestri (Back to the Future, Predator, Forrest Gump, Polar Express, Avengers, etc...) w/ rock songs during the end credits by Jon Bon Jovi (Blaze of Glory album featuring Jeff Beck, Elton John, Little Richard, etc...).
Fun fact: The actor, (Patrick Wayne), playing the part of Pat Garrett was the actual son of legendary actor "John Wayne".
Was he also in his dad’s great western Chisum? That one had Billy the Kid and Pat Garret too.
@@purpleslog He was in Big Jake playing a son of Wayne's character.
...and in McLintock!(1963) as Dev Warren, suitor of McLintock's daughter Becky. and a bit part in DONOVAN'S REEF(1963) as an Australian Navy Lt.
@@jefferywarburton2116 I knew he was in Big Jake . I love that movie. “Where’s the money…DADDY?” Smack!
@@patrickcromwell7554 you are mistaken..that is patrick wayne...google Young Guns cast
Love how Billy told Sherriff Brady and Murphy to reap the whirl wind
Reap the whirlwind of dying in your bed of cancer, which is what actually happened to Lawrence Murphy.
“He ate and laughed, drank and laughed, rode and laughed, talked and laughed, fought and laughed, and killed and laughed.” Quote from The Authentic Life of Billy the Kid, written by Pat Garrett.
That book has been proven to be 98% BS.
This and Young Guns 2 are the only Westerns I've ever watched and enjoyed. I remember being a teen when YG2 came out and it introduced me to Bon Jovi through the soundtrack... 30 years later and Bon Jovi is still my all-time favorite band. This movie is a classic.
Young Guns 1 & 2 are based historical events of the Lincoln County War and Billy the Kid. The movies have several historical inaccuracies, Tunstul wasn't an old man, it leaves out Murphy's business partner Jimmy Dolan, there were close to 40 Regulators.
Yeah, but while not perfect, it's considered the most accurate portrayal of Billy the Kid and the Lincoln County War ever put to film.
I thought Young Guns 2 was incredible the story is amazing and leaves you wondering
@@jamesrein648 Yeah I liked Young Guns 2 alot more
I own a home in New Mexico outside Lincoln County and have pictures of Billy the Kids grave. And yes it does say “pals” on it. In fact, so many people have tried to steal his tombstone, it’s got an iron cage around it now.
Jimmy Dolan shake and bake. The air up there.
Happy to see you went into western movies. Concerning Billy the Kid, I advise you to watch another movie, "Chisum" (1970) with John Wayne. Billy the Kid and Pat Garett are 2 characters in this movie, where John Wayne is splendid
This, Young Guns II and Tombstone are my favorite westerns
You're serious? Then I assume that you haven't seen much of the real classics. "Young Guns" isn't bad, but nothing compared to movies like "The Searchers", "Red River", "Rio Bravo", "The Magnificent Seven", "The Professionals", "Once Upon a Time in the West", "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly", "El Dorado", "Shane", "Vera Cruz", "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon", Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid", "The Wild Bunch", "The Outlaw Josey Wales" etc. etc. etc.
One of the last, truly epic westerns was Kevin Costner's "Open Range".
@@tomcody2203 Let people enjoy the things they like, snob.
@@tomcody2203 I grew up watching movies of the 80s and 90s movies. I might have forgotten to mention "Pale Rider," but yeah... What I've listed is all I can testify to.
@@V01t2 I'm with you on that, but I love the Spaghetti Westerns and the Magnificent Seven too.
@@tomcody2203 You are
listing some true classics,
I can only add two more:
Stagecoach and Liberty
Valance. High Noon Is in a
different style, but It has
Coop. After watching all
the films you mention one
gets picky and not so easy
to please!
Emilio Estevez is in a couple of really fun movies, Stakeout and Another Stakeout, from around the same era, late 80s/early 90s I think. His banter and chemistry with Richard Dreyfuss is up there with Riggs and Murtagh in the buddy cop genre
Young Guns 2 is a great & tells more of the Billy the Kid story.
Now you need you watch "Young Guns II" as it gives you more insight on Billy the Kid's story.
Although the whole Brushy Bill angle is BS
@@reactingtoactinghow so?
@@rexbanner8999 Presumably that he was lying. Because he did exist. Whether he was actually Billy is a matter for debate. I take more exception to that movie killing off Chavez and Doc because both of them lived well into the 20th century and died of natural causes. Just like in this one Billy didn't actually kill Lawrence Murphy, but at least the timeframe was closer.
I looked through the comments and didn't see anybody else mention this yet: Billy the Kid wasn't really left handed. In the photo of him his holster is on the left side, but it was actually printed mirror-image due to the photography method used at the time. This was only recently discovered.
Good point. Paul Newman's
version was called "The left
handed gun".I had pictures
taken in Banner Elk N.C. in '77
in a shop that used the old
camera, had to sit still a long
time holding a banjo and I did
come out left handed on a
sepia tone metal plate.The first Billy I saw on screen was
Robert Taylor, truly handsome
but twice his age.The Outlaw
by H.Hughes was made to
show off Jane Russell's body
and the plot is fake.
I know "it's personal preference" but isn't there a strong case for people riding with the holster on the opposite side to their dominant hand in a reverse grip position, and reach across?
i@rageagainstmyhatchet To cross draw, the gun would have to be pointing backwards in the holster on the opposite hip. That was not the case with Billy, so he had to use a normal draw from the hip.
@@JackChurchill101 If I am
not mistaken Wild Bill did that
with two guns , crossing his arms
to draw, or It might be a movie
gimmick to create momentum...
@@JackChurchill101 I don't really see it (in the mostly mythical "quickdraw" it'd be slower and otherwise it's basically irrelevant for wearing _one_ gun).
If you carried _two_ pistols though then you may well wear your second gun that way (because then it's already setup to quickly grab with your shooting hand _after_ your first gun is empty) and maybe that was more common in the days before speed loaders etc.
Young Guns is among the best westerns ever!!!!!
They don’t give tons of backstory because it’s not needed. Most know who Billy the Kid is, he’s literally the most famous American outlaw and the Lincoln County war is infamous,
I love the movie "City Slickers." It's not an actual western, but it is fun, smart, and funny.
Agree 1 and 2 are good.
also with a deeper meaning, its not just a funny comedy
You’re right, that’s more Cassie’s speed….
Loved Jack Palance in that!
I love this movie and the sequel, they're two of the most watched movies my brother and I have seen growing up and continue to do so when we get time to see each other over the years. I hope Cassie will get to watch part 2 as well.
Cassie, check out the 1990 version of the movie Flatliners. Keifer Sutherland is in that one as well, he plays a VERY interesting character in that, that is all I will say about that without spoiling it.
Good suggestion. She likes Grey's Anatomy, so a movie about adventurous medical students may be up her alley.
I thoroughly enjoyed "Flatliners" when I saw that back in 1990 in theatre, and I know there are some that may not like this as much as maybe the newer one, but I feel the 1990 version, yes has a great cast but there are a lot of layers to it.
Also can't wait for the reaction to "Young Guns II".
IF She likes or enjoys "Grey's Anatomy"; Would she enjoy "Mary Shelly's Frankenstein" with Robert De Niro?
This movie actually has a lot less inaccuracies than it looks like by the way. Most of these scenes are at LEAST based on stories about Built The Kid. Whether they were true or not. A lot of the scenes that look like they never happened are actually true historical fact. In fact, one of the only unrealistic things about this movie is that Billy comes across as proud that he killed all the men he did, in real life it's said that every man he killed haunted him. I actually found a whole website that compares the movie to actual historical record when I was 13. I'm only going off of my memory, but I know for a fact that a lot of these things actually happened
The actor who plays Charlie was in a good 80s movie called “3 o’Clock High”. He plays a wimpy kid that ticks off the new kid at his school and has to fight him after school is out. Most of the movie is him trying to get out of it. It’s pretty funny and actually has a deeper meaning at the end.
wasnt heath ledger the bad guy. i seen it but its been a looooong time so i dont really remember.
Noooo! That was Richard Tyson who also played the baddie in " Kindergarten Cop".
Casey S. was also a member of Kiefer's gang in "Stand By Me" (1986).
@@scorpiouk5914 that's right
Funny Movie
Young Guns 2 wraps up this story and is worth watching.
A western you gotta see is Quigley Down Under. You'd absolutely love it. It has everything: adventure, heartbreak, laughs, romance, and more!
Absolutely. Definitely needs to watch with Carly.
@@chuckg3818 agreed.
Good movie but the Roy lady drives me nuts.
@@johnmosley9376 that must make it hard to walk around like that.
AAAND...
Alan Rickman....
For a great western check out Rio Bravo. A classic western starring John Wayne and Dean Martin. Plus it has a nice love story as well.
Keifer and his father Donald Sutherland are Canadian. Donald played in "Kelly's Heroes" (WW2) with Clint Eastwood.
Oddball is worth the price of admission
Donald Sutherland is AMAZING as Oddball.. Woof Woof.. And in the same "genre" he also played "Hawkeye Pierce" in 1970's movie of "M*A*S*H" which is also a great film in it's own righth.
I still occasionally use "Always with the negative waves Moriarty !" in conversation :).
A WWII movie that's absolutely _steeped_ in the 60s.
@@jaquesshugossen9398 He was also in The Dirty Dozen , originally it was only a small part with not many lines but Clint Walker let him have a lot of his lines in order to boost up the part ....
@@brianjones7907 That is right! I think he was quite the comedian there too :-) He has a very "infective" smile and laugh. When he smiles and laughs, you just have to do the same.
Historians say that this movie was more historically accurate than most movies about Billy The Kid. Perhaps a reaction to Young Guns II next?
That's not high praise. In fact, it is far removed from actual history, as most all BTK films have been.
Estevez is actually the family surname. Martin Sheen changed his name many years ago, Charlie did too, Emilio did not.
Apparently Martin Sheen never legally changed it: He uses Martin Sheen professionally, but he said his driver's licence, passport, etc. are still and have always been under the name Ramon Estevez.
but remember charlie went back to carlos estevez lol, during his tiger blood winning phase
Martin used a stage name because the US is known for being bigots and racists especialy in the 1950s when martin started going by sheen. Good on emilio for using his real faminly surename.
@@ResidentPetrolhead I'm pretty sure I've read that it's the same thing for Charlie Sheen. His professional name is Charlie Sheen but his legal name is Carlos Estevez. They have another brother who's a photographer who is named Ramon Estevez like their father.
Estevez is their mother's name, not Sheens
Third movie. Also a great watch. Thank you.
Wait til you see Young Guns II. It’s even better! Not the same kind of music.
The best western ever made is Tombstone. I cannot WAIT to see your reaction to that! Val Kilmer is BRILLIANT in it. One of the greatest roles in all cinema history.
Pat Garrett shows up. Cassie: Why was that so awkward?
Hahaha right 😂
Oh you killed me ! Totes awks ! :)
Like people who start with Episode 1 -
“Anakin Skywalker, meet Obi Wan Kenobi”
“What’s the big deal?”
If only she knew! lol
@@alexramage4840 I hated that. It felt so forced.
Charlie and Emilio's father Martin Sheen did a pretty good western in 1979 called "Eagles Wing".
He also starred with his son Emilio,who also directed, in a movie called "The Way".
Warning, this one will break your heart.
Been waiting for young guns 2. Must be close. This will be great as well.
The real-life John Tunstall was only about 4 or 5 years older than the other guys.
Young Guns 2 goes deeper into the story of Billy and his relationship with Garrett (played by William Peterson from the show CSI). A man named Brushy Bill Roberts came forward in the 1950s, claiming to be Billy The Kid, saying he wanted a full pardon for the 21 men he killed. The movie starts out in the 50's, with Roberts telling the story to a reporter. Christian Slater had become a huge star in the time since the release of Young Guns and he's also in it. James Coburn, who once played Garrett in another western is in it. Jon Bon Jovi has a tiny cameo in it as well as writing the lead single from the soundtrack. Jeff Beck lends a hand to the soundtrack as well, providing guitar tracks. You're right, there is a scene in YGII where Billy ends up in jail, but escapes. In my opinion, it's just as good, if not better. Some say it's even better than the original.
Fun fact Billy the Kid is originally from Hell's kitchen New York but in his travels he'd go back and forth from the US to Mexico that's why he was so fluent in Spanish.
What an excellent movie to react to. A forgotten gem I don't think I've seen anyone else do a reaction to! Young guns 2 was my favourite though if i remember correctly.
A pugilist one who fights with his fists. Pugilism is an old fancy word for boxing, basically.
and pugilists also fought with bare hands (at first) before !boxing gloves! was invented
@@LegoGBlok And bare knuckle boxing even after gloves were invented.
@@DaveMiller2 Indeed. But those fights were considered illegal
Fisticuffs 😂
You beat me to. I was going to explain it, but I thought I’d check the comments first.
Watched a History Channel show about Billy the Kid. Was surprised to find that most of what you see in this movie it true. A few splashes of Hollywood but very accurate.
Gotta let you know Cass...the guy in Green Mile just called himself Billy the kid...he wasn't William h. Bonnie. Can't wait for your reaction to young guns 2
That was Wild Bill. I thought she might have been talking about Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs. Either way it was a miss.
It was William Wharton in The Green Mile that called himself Billy the Kid....had a tattoo of it. He got pissed off if anyone called him Wild Bill....a "two gun plainsman who got shot in the back of the head."
It was driving me crazy that she thought Billy the Kid was a murdering pedophile.
@chaserz4201 ,, William H Bonnie was`nt William H Bonnie his real name was Henry McCarty ...
Actually correct that he did end up in jail at one point though, so she failed successfully.
If you like lou diamond Phillips, then I would like to recommend La Bamba. Which is based off the true story of the first Mexican American rock and roller name Richie Valens ❤
I think this is the fastest I clicked on a video. I've literally been trying to get someone to react to this movie for years!!!
This one made me a fan of Emilio Estevez. You know he's Charlie Sheen's brother, right? Another western based on actual historical characters. Pugilist: essentially, a boxer. If the soundtrack threw you in this one, II will as well. Even has some stuff from Jon Bon Jovi.
This ranks as one of my favorite westerns; up there with The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976), Unforgiven, and Tombstone (1993).
Interesting fact: As others might have stated, Tom Cruise has a cameo here in Young Guns. He played one of the "Murphy Men" who gets shot at the end. Years later, Emilio Estevez returned the favor to Tom by appearing uncredited at the beginning of Mission: Impossible (1996); he played Jack, a member of Ethan Hunt's team.
Hope that you will react to Young Guns II (1990); as well as maybe doing a music video reaction to the song "Blaze of Glory" by Jon Bon Jovi. He even has a very short cameo in that film as well, but that's another story...
I've been beggin for Josey Wales for months! Lol
It's my favorite all-time western.
@@JaxNole61mine too!
It’s a bummer no one reacts to it
@@JaxNole61 I would say Pale Rider in the same category, two of Clint Eastwoods best.
@@duanetelesha yep, another great one!
Loved the reaction Cassie. Another one I wish Carly was here for but,... Anyway this movie/story was based loosely on the real life story of Billy the kid and the Lincoln County cattle war. This is my favorite 80's western film. I loved this movie and it's sequel. PLEASE do a reaction to "Young Guns 2" as well. It has a little more humor to it than this one, but it also explains some the parts you were confused by in this film. Mostly the Pat Garrett, "awkward moment".
Finally you gotta watch part 2 also
So theres another movie which explains the relationship between Billy & Pat and little more.
Basically this movie focuses on the business disputes between the English & Irish entrepreneurs; Tunstall, Murphy, and Dolan.
After their deaths & the Lincoln county war; Billy is a wanted man for murder. But he’s in an area where he’s loved, in and around Arizona & what would become New Mexico.
The main thing to remember is Billy lived from 1859-1881, and was an east coast criminal. He was from NYC originally. He moved to the southern states because of the lawlessness, he knew that he could profit from effectively being a psychopath, the same as a lot of criminals at that time. Keep in mind that New Mexico didn’t become a US state until 1912.
Nobody knows the true version of the events which happened, but the one certainty is that the people of New Mexico & Arizona used to love Billy. They would feed him, house him, harbour him from the law. Because they didn’t like the idea of the Union of the USA. They were all confederate supporters and many would have relatives in the confederate army. They didn’t like the entire hierarchy from president, to state governors, to US Marshall’s, to local law enforcement. So the fact that Billy was fighting against all of that after the Lincoln county wars was music to their ears. He was their hero.
The relationship between Pat & Billy is complicated and Pat’s book “the authentic life of Billy the Kid”, is one of the only credible sources to go off of.
In the book he details how it really was the Wild West, and that you could see a man shoot another man one week and be trialled as a murderer, then the same man could murder a different man the next week and be wearing a badge and it would be totally fine. The truth is that the area was simply in chaos and that the general consensus down there was that they didn’t like anything which represents the Union. Pat was an outlaw himself for a time, until he was hired to hunt down Billy - effectively a bounty hunter with a badge and was an acting sworn US Marshall.
He found Billy the night he was “killed” in Fort Summer, New Mexico; whether or not Pat killed Billy is always a topic of debate. The account says that there was an argument between the two in Spanish and shots were fired. A body was recovered and said to be that of Henry McCarty (Billy the Kid), the body was buried and overnight the inscription appeared on the headstone “pals”.
All of the above is a matter of fact; what is up for debate is who is in that grave.
There are generally two accounts. One being that Pat killed Billy like he was hired to do, and buried him accordingly. Then Pat inscribed the word onto the headstone out of respect for both his friend & eventual adversary.
The other account and generally the more romanticised version of events is that Pat found Billy, faked a confrontation in Spanish so that a lot of the third party eyewitnesses couldn’t translate, then killed a random boy around the age of 21 and staged the assassination of Billy. The inscription is then said to have been written on the grave by Billy himself to show respect to his old friend Pat for letting him go, as long as he vowed to vanish and never return. This theory is backed up by multiple people having claimed to be Billy the Kid in later life; most of these have been immediately disproven.
1948 a Texas man named “Brushy” Bill Roberts had claimed to be Billy the Kid; and sought a pardon from the courts as he didn’t want to die with the guilt of what he’d done. There is still a Billy the Kid museum in Hico, Texas where Brushy Bill had liver & died. The dates of when he arrived in the town did actually correlate to when Billy was last seen in New Mexico. Brushy Bill also was open to exhuming graves of his mother and the body in Fort Sumner and to provide DNA himself to prove his identity. But New Mexico governor Thomas J. Mabry had refused this and stated that enough chaos and murder had been caused by this man in his life, and he wasn’t about to add more to that list by digging up bodies long after his death.
The other suspicious facts surrounding his “death” were the DNA evidence provided by Lincoln County in the investigations. They provided Bonney’s blood samples which provided no conclusive evidence and thusly disproving Pat Garrett’s generally accepted version of events. Lincoln county was sued from 2007-2014 by amateur historians. The lawsuit ended up costing Lincoln County over $300,000.
It's a Western based very loosely on real events. In real life there were more than eleven Regulators at the Blazer's Mill Gunfight where Brushy Bill Roberts and Dick Brewer died. The killing of Joe Grant the arrogant gunfighter that Billy takes the bullets of his gun. Happened later in the Kid's life after the Lincoln County War ended. Charlie Bowdre and Doc Scurlock in real life were brother in laws, they had married a pair of Mexican sisters who's father was also involved in the Lincoln County War, on the Tunstall-McSween side. (In fact Doc and Charlie first met Billy when they hired him to work in a Cheese Factory they ran in Arizona). The McSween House fight lasted for five days and their were 50 on the side of the Regulators spread throughout the town of LIncoln. Though they were still outnumbered by the Murphy-Dolan faction. It got worse when the Army showed up on the side of the Murphy. The fight ended when the Regulators trapped in the McSween house tried to sneak out in the middle of the night. Alexander McSween was killed in the ensuing gun battle, he was a pacifist and thus didn't have a gun. Murphy also didn't meet his end at Billy's hand either, he died of cancer instead.
Yeah just due to time constraints you will see that a lot in movies. Another great example is from Tombstone where Virgil and Morgan look like they were both shot in the same night whereas in real life they were shot just shy of three months apart from each other.
Young Guns is an underrated franchise. A bunch of young, new actors on the rise in a western. This was when westerns weren't much of a thing anymore. The sequel is just as good. Another movie that I think you would really enjoy is City Slickers. It's a comedy / quasi-western starring Billy Crystal. It also stars Jack Palance who played Murphy in this. Quite possibly his finest performance that won him an Oscar.
‘Young Guns’ and ‘Young Guns 2’ are two of my favorite movies. I’ve seen them both a couple million times since I first saw them in theaters.
This is one of the best westerns ever. Historically, it's pretty close to what actually happened. Not exact, but pretty close. This portrayal of Billy the Kid is almost spot on. He was a unique person. He was intelligent, funny, and extremely loyal, but he was also a killer. His desire to avenge Tunstall was accurate. He had a closeness to Tunstall that was never really explained.
There were well over 40 regulators, not just the handful portrayed in the movie. Murphy worked with a man named Dolan. They indeed had a monopoly on the cattle business in Lincoln County. There's arguements that Tunstall and McSween were just as ruthless as the Murphy / Dolan faction, but it's my opinion based on what I've read that the M/D faction was the bad guys in this whole ordeal.
Dirty Steve is a conglomeration of several Regulators and isn't necessarily a real person. The others were. The shootout at the end is pretty accurate. The house was set ablaze and the Regulators escaped. McSween was shot down, but not by a Gatling gun. Murphy died in bed from cancer. Billy didn't shoot him.
Overall, the movie was accurate with a few dramatic licenses taken. Young Guns 2 was less accurate and not as entertaining. The death of Billy the Kid is surrounded with discrepancies, and it's my opinion that he was not killed by Pat Garrett who was proven to be a liar. His book, "The Life of Billy the Kid" was proven to be almost complete BS. I think Billy survived and was indeed Brushy Bill Roberts...But that's a whole other story.
Thanks for watching one of my favorite westerns. Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen also starred together in Men At Work.
Charlie and Emilio barely look related, but you put a picture of Martin Sheen next to them they both look like him, mind blowing
Men at Work is great, with one-liners and quotes and such great scenes... AND it has diversity! ;-)
Charlie Sheen and Kiefer Sutherland have an other movie together, "The Three Musketeers" from 1993! Theres also starring Oliver Platt, Chris O'Donnell, Rebecca De Mornay and as villain the great Tim Curry! For me its the best Musketeer movie and its a lot of fun to watch! Maybe you want to react on this movie, i think you will like it!
Charlie Sheen's "fargin' lie" line reminded me that you should see Johnny Dangerously. If you don't, it's "Fargin' War!"
you farggin ice holes
peter boyle as the mob leader
Fargin' sneaky bastages.
Fargon Iceholes!
My mom called me that once...
once.
I saw Young Guns at the movie theater. At this point in my life I regret that I paid to see this, but didn't see Unforgiven or Tombstone or even Silverado in the theater. I missed a lot of movies back in the 80s and 90s and even the 00s. I'm glad I get to experience them now with some of my favorite movie reacting people.
Did you guys see the size of that chicken!
Love that part.
I saw a rabbit that size back in 1979 while tripping on acid. I believe!!
I had a pizza jump of a traffic light and chase me up a street.......aaaahhh the good old day.
That is my favorite line from a movie ever!
Mine was Fried.
"Young Guns II" is significantly better IMO (despite, somehow, managing to be even _less_ historically accurate :) but this one's still fun in an "MTV Western" kind of way.
It's still one of my favorite Westerners. I saw it as a kid, and it was the first western I really liked. Now that I'm much older lol I like a lot of different westerners, but this one is the one that started it for me.
Jack Palance played the older bad guy mob boss in charge of the mafia in Gotham City, in the 1989 Batman movie; Terrance Stamp played the villain Zod, in the Superman II movie, as other Kryptonians opposite to Superman; Terry O'Quinn has been in so many movies & tv shows.
In Young Guns 2 you'll understand the Pat Garrett situation. And why that introduction was meaningful.
Emilio had a house in my town in Montana. One night my friend and I were walking out of the hardware store and a guy I didn't recognize held the door open for us. My friend did recognize him. He looked different because he had the lambchop sideburns he grew out to film Young Guns. He was a nice, regular guy, drove a Toyota pickup.
Classic 80’s!! Loved this in highschool!!!
Part 2 theme song was song by Bon Jovi! Blaze of Glory!!!!!
Found myself in Lincoln county last year. Then found John Tungstals store looking the same as the late 1880s and realized I was standing where Billy had been and sheriff Pat Brady's great great grandson was picking up his mail just yards away from where Pat was shot by Billy. It was surreal
In regards to Kiefer Sutherland, one mark of a good actor is when they can make you both love and hate them in different roles. Shows their range instead of just being typecast in a particular character role.
I agree
Cassie, you want to see a great Western? Check out 1995's "The Quick and the Dead." Sam Raimi directs an all star cast Sharon Stone, Leo Dicaprio, Russell Crowd, Gene Hackman, Keith David, and Gary Sinese. And buried somewhere is the ole' Delta 88!
Charley: We work for Mr. Tunstall as regulators. We regulate any stealing off his property - we're damn good too! Mr. Tunstall's got a soft spot for runaways, dareless, vagrant types. But you can't be any geek off the street, gotta be handy with the steel, if you know what I mean, earn your keep.
Derelicts not dareless.
Young Guns II is also pretty good. Some new characters were introduced one played by Christian Slater another by Alan Ruck from Ferris Bueller day off
One of my favourite westerns of all time! Lou Diamond Phillips was the reason why I started collecting knives!
Loved him as Henry Standing Bear in Longmire
Charlie's "we regulate this property" Regulators speech is the intro for the famous Warren G and Nate Dogg song "Regulators"
This was fairly historically accurate but for a few things. Tunstall wasn't old , but in his early 20s. But the Lincoln County war part is pretty accurate
Young Guns is not alone in this error. Most Billy the Kid films make him out as an older man, so he is more believable as father figure to the Kid.
Until recently there had only ever been one verified photo of Billy the Kid.
A man happened to buy a stack of three photos for $2 in an antique shop and soon discovered he had inadvertently found a second photo of Billy the Kid.
After 5 years of very meticulous scrutiny by experts from around the country is was authenticated.
The man sold the photo at auction for $5 million.
Quite a rosy profit for a $2 investment in a piece of history.
Best Western ever....
Young Guns is so incredibly awesome! I'm so happy you watched it
This was a western for teen boys. It did it’s job. Men my age now instantly recognize the call lol. “Regulators!” That and “Wolverines!” from Red Dawn are instant transportation words for us.
Mount up !!!
Not sure how many "Lincoln County War" movies there are, but 'Chisum' with John Wayne is another good one.
Young guns 2 goes into more detail of Billy the Kid
IMO Young Guns II is the better film, at least from a filmmaking standpoint. I was surprised how much I liked it when it came out.
More about his relationship with Pat Garrett.
a "Pugilist" is a person that fights using there hands ... like a Monk, or a boxer. Now .. Young Guns II is a MUST.
St Francis of Assisi was deadly! 🤠
In real life, Billy the Kid (Emilio Estevez) was killed by Pat Garrett (Patrick Wayne).
Charlie and Emilio are brothers. Marton Sheen is their father. Martin's real last name is Estevez. They have a sister who is an actress as well.
I used to deliver to Lou Diamind Phillips. A really nice guy.
A pugilist is a boxer.
People shoot huns in the air. The bullets have to come back down at some point.
This is not an accurate Billy the Kid story.
In The Green Mile, Sam Rockwell was playing a guy who called himself Billy the Kid, but was not the Billy.
I grew up in New Mexico. There is a lot of folk lore and legends in this story. I've been to The Kid's grave, if it is actually his (not likely).
Pat Garrett was played by Patrick Wayne, who is John Waynes son❤😊
And Patrick's nephew is the swagger in the suit in The Mandalorian
Also, according to historians, Billy and Dick actually got along really well and there was no power struggle between them. They all followed him without question
The woman Charlie goes to see is actually his mother. He knows it, she doesnt. Thats why he just wants to hug her, he's scared and wants his mom. True story.
That's what I always assumed about that also.
I never thought of that
this movie holds the honor of being just about the most historically accurate telling of billy the kid and the regulators ever to be put on film.
during the making, the director had a new mexico historian [paul andrew hutton] on set, to make sure what was being filmed was right [sets, costumes, plot, script, etc]. by the end of it, the historian stated young guns was, "the most historically accurate of all Billy the Kid films as of June 1990."
one of the more glaring "changes" was tunstall's age. when he was killed, tunstall was just 24years old- only a few years older than billy himself. this was because the director felt the audience wouldn't seriously take a group of guys like the regulators following orders from someone far younger than them [all but billy were in their 30s and 40s].
If you're interested in trying Australian "westerns," The Man from Snowy River and Quigley Down Under are ones I grew up with (had an Aussie grandma).
wow just yesterday i was thinking people need to suggest this movie and it's sequel to more reactors , .. it's like many people forget this movie. i've always loved this movie and the sequel.
and for the record this is more than just a western , this is actual history of billy the kid and his gang.
Pat Garrette jioned billy teh kid's gang for a while , till they went "off the rails" so to speak. He was a good friend of billy the kid's . he is also the alwman (later on in life) that alledgedly shot billy in the back to claim the bounty on his head , however in the 1920's an old man turned up claiming to be billy the kid. The old man knew many details of billy's life that even a well educated historian wouldn't have known. So it became a big mystery surrounding the life of billy the kid. Did pat garrette really kill Billy the kid , or did they fake billy's death ? no one will ever know ... but yeah you got to watch part 2 at some point now.
silverado is fictional ... this story is not.
The Best Scene is when the bounty hunter, played by the fantastic "Brian Keith", comes after them.
"Let's dance!"
Since you like that scene (and so do I), I suggest you check out Tom Horn (1980) with Steve McQueen. There is a scene when Horn asks a rustler if he got Horn's note and things don't go exactly to plan, it kinda reminds me of the scene here with Brian Keith.
Young Guns 2 imo has the best soundtrack of the western movies i've seen, it's literally a whole Jon Bon Jovi album written just for the movie and please watch it 😀also check out the Blaze of Glory video by Bon Jovi
Crazy story. When I was a teenager, a friend and I went to see this movie at the theater. When we came out, the police had everything roped off as there had been an actual shooting just outside the front door of the theater while we were in watching the movie. It was crazy surreal. Especially after watching Young Guns with so much make believe gun violence.
The character from the movie The Green Mile, was William "Wild Bill" Wharton, played by Sam Rockwell. The fictional character was an admirer of Billy the Kid and would occasionally refer to himself by that name. But he was not actually THE Billy the Kid, nor was he related to him in any meaningful way.
Not all Westerns are alike. “Silverado” was meant for a general audience. “Young Guns” was specifically marketed at young men and their fathers. That’s why the whole movie is centered around the death of the Regulators’ surrogate father. It was “nostalgia bait” before that was even a thing.
Considering all of that, I would call this a straight-up “guy” movie, and therefore really isn’t for everyone (much like “Big Trouble in Little China”).
Dunno - casting a bunch of guys who were kind of idols of the time also was aimed at young women. Sheen, Estevez, Philips and Sutherland were the young stars of the day.
So, because she said it and in case people don’t know- Martin Sheen is Charlie Sheen’s and Emilio Estevez’s dad. Martin Sheen’s real name is Ramon Antonio Estevez and Charlie Sheen’s real name is Carlos Estevez and then their brother Emilio (from Mighty Ducks).
If you felt that the interaction between Billy The Kid (Emilio Estevez) and Pat Garrett at the village dance was weird, it's because he will be the one who famously killed Billy by shooting him in the back. This is also why the dialogue that follows where Billy says that he will one day be more popular than him is prophetic. This is also why, later in the film, Pat Garrett surprises Billy from behind by starting a conversation... and Billy tests him by turning his back and asking him: "Are you my friend?" to which Pat replies that he is...
I must have seen this film about thirty times. I remember being shocked to see Charlie Sheen and Terence Stamp's character die so quickly. That year (1987), Keifer Sutherland also played a vampire in ''The Lost Boys''. What an actor! A comboy-poet in this film and a bloodthirsty vampire in the other. And we believe him in both of them. For me, the funniest scene is near the end when Billy shoots a star cowboy (Charley Crawford).
-Billy: Hey Peppin!i
-Peppin: I'm hearin' you, Billy!
-Billy: I see you've got Charley Crawford down there with you!
-Peppin: Yeah, we got a whole lot!
Billy proceeds to shoot Charley Crawford.
-Billy: Hey Peppin', Charley Crawford ain't with you anymore!
The scene that follows where the group attempts to heroically escape is poignant. The sequel is not as good but still worth it... especially for the Jon Bon Jovi song and the score by the great Alan Silvestri.
@@SimonRiley752 My memory is what it is but isn't that a little bit the plot of the second ''Young Guns''? Well, maybe not the plot itself but one of the ''punchline'' of the film?
Dramatic license in terms of the ages of characters, the number of Regulators, the scale of the Lincoln County War between Murphy and Tunstall's men (and events skipped over, played out in different order or combined into one event) and the way the siege at the end plays out, YOUNG GUNS is still regarded by most historians as one of the most accurate Westerns ever made in terms of its depiction of the period and its representation of Billy The Kid in as far as we know about the historical figures.
Especially in regards to Billy himself, his mannerisms and his personality; there is a lot of accounts about the man who suggest he was very educated, incredibly smart and also suffered from trauma and childhood PTSD that made him so reckless and fed his tendency for murdering anyone who he felt was evil and deserved it (and also Estevez's depiction of Billy's trademark laugh).
Probably the film's biggest inaccuracies are the other characters - many of them are changed or have characteristics of other Regulartors who don't appear in the film. Some Regulators actually survived or died in different places and circumstances (this is something they notoriously do with YOUNG GUNS II as well despite also being a famously historically accurate Western).
For instance: Chavez, out of all of the Regulators, is the one who probably got the most Hollywood glow-up; the guy was much older and rough-looking and dressed in a Mexican fashion, complete with moustache.
Charlie also didn't die in the Lincoln County War, but rather died in events that take place in YOUNG GUNS II (which is the story of the death of Billy The Kid and made with a bigger budget and more traditional Western style).
Tunstall and Murphy are drawn as obvious good guy-bad guy depictions, but their animosity was actually more nuanced: people were incredibly racist towards the Irish both in the UK and in America during the Old West and because of that abuse and racism, Murphy and his family were pushed to use any means necessary - including corruption - just to keep his home and business safe. Tunstall, as an Englishman, was very well accepted and liked in the county and the racism against Murphy drove many customers towards Tunstall out of prejudice.
So yeah, the events (in general) and Billy himself are quite accurate, as is the depiction of the period. Despite being made as a Western for 80's teenagers with hearthrob leads, it actually set a standard that later Westerns in the 90's would adopt in terms of historical accuracy and depictions of people of the Old West.
But there is a lot of dark tragedy in the story that makes it such an interesting thing from the Old West to study: the fact that Murphy and Tunstall both had good and bad sides to them, the fact that Billy the Kid was kind of forced into being a sociopath in order to survive because of his traumatic childhood and his extreme intelligence that he never got the chance to put to good use, the fact that the Lincoln County War was a series of very tragic injustices experienced by both sides that erupted into an out of control bloodbath.
Even the gunfights are - in real history - very interesting because, despite what Hollywood shows, gunfights were really really rare. So rare that when they happened, they were almost always historically documented and given names like "The Battle of Lincoln" or "The Battle Of Stinky Springs" or "The Battle of Old Fern Mill" etc. Gunfights were BIG deals and obviously the number of people shot, wounded or killed made them very significant events in history and not just casual shoot-outs (of course cold blooded gun murders in the West were very common, but they didn't involve duels just outright killing of people who couldn't defend themselves).
This movie was literally based on the actual Lincoln County War
The character in "The Green Mile" was not supposed to be the real Billy the Kid. He was a wannabe who called himself Billy the Kid. That's why Tom Hanks character would call him "Wild Bill" to piss him off. Also the Green Mile is set about 50 years after the events in this movie.