In an 1896 article, Wyatt Earp said “Doc [Holliday] was a dentist whom necessity had made a gambler; a gentleman whom disease had made a frontier vagabond; a philosopher whom life had made a caustic wit; a long lean ash-blond fellow nearly dead with consumption, and at the same time the most skillful gambler and the nerviest, speediest, deadliest man with a gun that I ever knew.”
He was a dentist. He moved (from somewhere, I forget... up north I think) to Denison Texas (not far from Dallas) to practice dentistry. Denison is not very far from my hometown. It's true. He was a dentist, which is how he contracted TB. He moved to the west due to the drier air, gave up dentistry and made his own way through gambling and fighting.
@@RazorBacksFan1980 I thought that was how he got it too, but now I'm seeing comments saying he got it at 17 from his mother?? Did you catch that Tarantino made King Schultz in Django a former dentist too? I somehow missed that but my daughter caught it.
"I'm your huckleberry." In my opinion, Val Kilmer's greatest role. His portrayal as Doc Holliday was what made this film. Also, Val Kilmer wasn't even nominated for a Best Supporting Actor Oscar, but he should have been. Also, the scene where Wyatt Earp (Kurt Russell) is wading through the river actually happened. There were a dozen men firing all over the place and Wyatt never so much as got grazed.
Agreed. I saw this film in theaters when it was released in 1993. I was 22 and grew up on Westerns because I watched them with my grandparents. Loved this film then and now. Even to this day, 30 years later, that last scene between Doc (Kilmer) and Earp (Russell) still brings tears to my eyes. Such a great film.
@@antoniochasten3192 I was an usher at a theater in 1993. I sold you popcorn, probably, but got to see this about 50 times...for free! lol sorry. it was the only benefit of the job!
"Doc" Holliday was in fact a doctor, he had a thriving dental practice until he contracted TB (aka a 'lunger') and had to close it. He ended up being a wandering gambler and gunfighter, in a vain hope of not dying of TB in some hospital bed. The end of the movie when he looks down at his feet and laughs saying "Ill be damned" meaning despite all his attempts, he didnt die with his boots on and instead died in a hospital bed. This is one of the reasons why he was so deadly a gunfighter, not just his speed but also his devil may care attitude, taunting people to go ahead and try to kill him.
i love just how many potential "Suicide attempts" are in the film too. - the fight with bill bailey in the beginning, intentionally disarming himself and placing his loaded guns on the table, barrels facing himself, handles facing Bailey. he may as well have just pre-cocked it for him. - when he runs out of ammo in his primary pistol during the Corral shootout, he challenges that cowboy to shoot him, then intentionally misses(cowboy is at doc's 12 o clock, doc's whole arm is aiming for 2 : 30), he knew the fight was over, the earps were safe, and they'd light the cowboy up after the cowboy shot him. - the drunken gambling with Ike clanton, Morgan say he's been at it for hours, Ike just came in maybe an hour ago, and Morg tried to get him to call it a night but he refused. he refused because Ike was exactly the kind of person he'd been waiting for: uneducated, hostile, impulsive, easy to goad into a fight. that's why he lay's it on so thick with the spelling contest line and the "HWHY IKE, HWHATEVAH DO YOU MEAN??". - and then finally you have the duel with ringo. Doc just got told his health is deteriorated and he's now on a very limited timeline. he shoots ringo, once again saving Wyatt from danger, but Ringo's still alive and standing. He sees another potential opportunity to check out, and starts goading Ringo to shoot him but Ringo can't get his gun up and discharges his shot into the ground before collapsing. Doc's line "Your no daisy, you're no daisy at all" is both mocking him for losing and also is an admonishment of ringo's broken promise "I'll put you out of your misery". hence why doc repeated the line from their previous exchange, "say hwhen....", before they drew. he was reminding Ringo of his promise. Doc was hoping for a double KO.
I have seen this movie I don’t know how many times. It was watched obsessively my first deployment, nearly 20 years after I got out I still feel compelled to finish it any time it’s on. And in all that time I never knew what “lunger” met. Appreciate you finally solving the mystery.
Buck Taylor great actor and fine person he does artwork. If you notice he's wearing a square and compass of a freemason around his neck which would be a small nod to why he has lots of friends.
"You're no daisy at'all." Cold blooded thing to say to a man collapsing under your sidearm headshot. A blind shot. Hip fire. Greatest rendering of the old west I've ever seen in a movie. Val Kilmer was robbed the accolades he deserved for this. Probably one of the most memorable performances I can think of.
Well said! I do wish they hadn't used the hip shot though, no real gunfighter used such shots, that was for trick shooters, and even the best trick shooters would tell how they'd NEVER use a trick or hip shot in a real fight under any circumstances. I guess it worked well for the movie, who woykd knjw such things besides needs like me lol.
DarthRaider520, I agree totally with what you said. I somehow wish the Academy could present Val with a lifetime achievement award. I know it's not the same, but they need to figure something out to try & makeup for the mistake. Hopefully someday they can reward Val with the recognition he so rightfully deserves. It was a masterpiece of acting. A+
What I have always loved, and it's so subtle, is that even after Doc says he doesn't want to play anymore, Wyatt deals the cards--and Doc STILL wins. Such a great touch.
Fun fact: When Doc is spinning the cup, it's funny and terrifying because it's not a pistol but he mimicked Ringo's movements exactly... and Ringo knows it.
Ringos gun twirling exhibition was an intimidation ploy to show he was the alpha he's aware of Holidays reputation with a gun but Holiday throws it back in his face by mimicking his moves with a cup as if to say I'm not impressed or intimidated by you
Precisely. Twirling your gun, especially while locking eyes with someone, demonstrated muscle memory, dexterity, and familiarity with a firearm, indicating how effortlessly the gun handler used it. To pistoleros, Ringo's display would have been intimidating. To Doc, who regards himself as already dead, it basically just reinforced what he already knew of Ringo. When Doc copies the entire sequence perfectly, it shows how dangerous HE actually is, without drawing a weapon.
Doc Holliday was originally a dentist, hence the name doc. Val Kilmer 100% deserved an Oscar for this role, the best character to ever grace the screen. So glad you enjoyed soo much and hope you do more westerns, its an expansive genre that covers a lot of depth, especially if you watch the good ones.. loved the reaction as always 😁😁
I always thought Val Kilmer absolutely stole this film right out from under Kurt Russell, who was quite good as Wyatt Earp, but Kilmer was just on another level. The height of his career.
Charlton Heston's voice is so commanding and distinguished. Robert Mitchum was outstanding in narrating this movie. There were tons of Stars in this movie. Val Kilmer was the biggest hit in this movie.
Michael Rosenbaum (Lex Luthor from Smallville) has a great podcast called inside of you. He had Michael Biehn on and they did an extended discussion about the making of tombstone. It is absolutely insane to listen to everything that went wrong behind the scenes and yes they still managed to make one of the greatest westerns in history. If you love the movie it’s absolutely must listening
The "I'm your huckleberry" was nothing until Val delivered it here in his iconic role. In a movie full of good actors doing good acting, it was primarily his character that took this movie from very good to all-time top tier in the Western genre.
@@brycehiigel235 No, it's not. "Huckle Bearer" would've made sense, but he actually said "huckleberry." Val Kilmer said as much, and it's in the script, which you can read online.
@@greggross8856 that’s what I thought at first. But from another reaction and listening closely you can really hear him say Huckle Bearer in on of his comments.
Kilmer as Doc was one of the most magnetic performances I've ever seen. Every single shot of him evokes some kind of reaction in the viewer. And then he got to deliver the superb dialogue from Kevin Jarre's screenplay. Talk about lightning in a bottle.
What's funny is the most unbelievable scene when Wyatt walked into the creek with bullets flying, shoots and kills curly bill is actually pretty accurate.
Pistols were wildly inaccurate before rifling and standard ammunition were commonplace, especially if using powder & ball or beyond 50ft. Wyatt uses a shotgun because he knows he won't miss with scattershot.
Actually Wyatts posse stumbled upon curly bills posse in the desert about 25 miles northwest of tombstone. Wyatt hit him with both barrels and about cut him in half. But lots of interesting facts about this story from the locals. Worth visiting. I am going there again tomorrow.
The shootout between Wyatt and Curly Bill is one of those rare events that had to be toned down by Hollywood because the real event was too unbelievable. (Another great one is in The Ghost and the Darkness, also Val Kilmer). Irl Curly Bill had a shotgun loaded with buckshot. He shot both barrels directly at Wyatt and missed him completely. Afterward, he had bullet holes all around him through his coat. He was already a legend, but the whole "immortal" thing propelled him into mythical territory.
The scene where doc spins the cup, is actually a dynamic moment. Ringo goes ahead and shows doc his speed with a pistol, but doc never shows him how fast he is.
The Scene where Doc meets Ringo in the Saloon is amazing. One of you mentioned you wanted a translation. It becomes even better when you hear it. Watch it again once you know the meaning at it becomes legendary. Doc says "En vino veritas"(in wine there is truth) implying he was drunk but not lying. Ringo responds "Age quod agis" ( Do what you are doing) basically telling him he is just a drunk. Doc counters "Credat judaeus apella, non ego" let the jew apella believe, Not I" Now this is great because he is quoting the ancient Roman poet Horace here, dismissing Ringo that a being a drunk is not what he does. Ringo smiles and taunts Doc by touching his fingers on the handle of his pistol and says invitingly " Iuventus stultorum magister " (Youth is the teacher of fools) Ringo is telling Doc he is a fool to think he is in the same league as him and he will teach him a lesson. Doc immediately, coldly and as matter of fact delivers the answer " In pace requiescat" ( Rest in peace) or It's your funeral my friend lol. Kurt Russel was basically the director of this film and he cut his own lines and screen time down because Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday made this film. One of my favorite movie scenes is when Doc is asked why he is out riding with Wyatt and Doc says Wyatt is his friend, Creek says I got lots of friends, Doc admits " I dont "
Not to mention but the part that comes after that section of the scene in the bar between Ringo and Doc also fills in more of the details that Cassie and Carrie might not have picked up on. But Ringo then goes on to display his gun handling skills. Everyone is rightly impressed as it is quite a fancy display of speed and precision. However Doc then proceeds to do the exact same moves with his cup. You can see Ringo's face change through this from one of pride, to then slight annoyance, to then finally awes and even a bit of fright as he realizes that Doc is showing him up, but in a way only Ringo will truly understand. This is because, just with a single watch of what Ringo did, Doc is able to replicate each and every move perfectly and in the same order while also using something that is not as easy to control on a finger as a revolver since a cup is much less balanced, and while being visibly impaired. It's why Ringo from that point on was respectful and even fearful of Doc, knowing that if his skills were that good when intoxicated, they would be even better when sober and when he truly meant business. It's subtle things like that which make this movie so absolutely perfect.
Another thing that's great is When Doc is twirling the shot glass he learns Ringo's draw speed while not giving away his own, which helps him during the grove shootout.
The info you supply is great great great ~ And you are correct, the translation makes the scene sooooooooooooooooooooooo much better, and funnier. Thank you so much for that. And kurt Russell was right ~ Kilmer absolutely stole this movie right out from under him. Kilmer's finest performance, bar none-by a long shot.
@@jocko774 holy shit, i've never put that together before, but you're absolutely right, ringo gave away the goods, but doc gave him nothing in return.....
Wyatt Earp was a real person. In his life, he didn't so much as get a scratch. Amazing. Kevin Costner did a film about Wyatt Earp too. It shows Wyatt in his younger days and what shaped him into the man he became.👍
I don't always like Kevin Costner as an actor, but he is amazing in all the westerns he has done. Not a single miss, but Open Range is probably my favorite western. Probably a controversial pick over Dances With Wolves, but the shootout was too good.
It's understandable to not recognize Kurt Russell, since he's technically co-starring with Kurt Russell's Mustache to really bring the character to life.
Doc's death scene resonates with such a sense of poignant beauty. It is both sad and beautiful. The friendship between Wyatt and Doc is beautiful, the way Doc recalls his one true love and how she was all he ever wanted is beautiful (makes you wonder if he turned to a life of crime as a way to fill up the emptiness left in his heart), and Doc's "philosophy of life" is beautiful ("take that beauty and run; don't look back"). It is, without question, one of my favorite scenes in any movie. Anyone else love that scene as much as I do?
It's also very poignant his last lines in the movie were Doc Holliday's actual last words, him looking at his feet and saying, "Well, I'll be damned, this is funny.". Doc Holliday always thought he would die with his boots on.
A fantastic western, and a great film for you and your sister to watch together. Val Kilmer as Doc is the standout of the film. One of my favorite lines of his, if not my favorite is, “I have two guns. One for each of ya.” Of course, there’s also his great response of “You're a daisy if ya do.”
If you look closely, when he says, "...two guns, one for each of ya..." he spins them, one forward and the other backward. Val must have practiced a bit.
The whole cast grew their own moustaches, no fakes, and Wyatt Earp's great-grandson was also in the film. (maybe great, great grandson) One of the best ways to film history, lots of facts with artistic license stimulating the watcher to read up on the details.
The one exception in this movie, IMO, is Morgan Earp. Paxton did fine, but I don't like that they made him kind of a pansy. I like the portrayal of Morgan in "Wyatt Earp" better where he was gung ho on killing them all.
One of the actors most people miss is Charleton Heston. He was the old rancher whose house they used to put Doc in towards the end. Do an IMDB on him and you'll see some of the iconic movies he's done. The 10 Commandments is probably his most famous.
This movie is actually my all-time favorite western. Absolutely fantastic. Really amazing film. And it has an all-star cast. Kurt Russel as Wyatt, Val Kilmer as Doc, Bill Paxton as Morgan, Sam Elliott as Virgil, Powers Boothe as Curly Bill, Michael Biehn (Terminator) as Johnny Ringo, Billy Zane (Titanic) as Fabian, Stephen Lang (Avatar) as Ike Clanton, Thomas Hayden Church (Spider Man 3) as Billy Clanton, Michael Rooker (Guardians of The Galaxy) as McMasters, Jon Tenney (Fools Rush In) as Behan, Dana Delaney as Josephine, Billy Bob Thornton as Johnny Tyler, Jason Priestly (Beverly Hills 90210) as Billy Breckinridge, the legendary Charlton Heston as Henry Hooker and Robert Mitchum as the narrator...it just keeps going - and yes, it is a true story.
Doc wasn't a good guy, but he was better than the really bad guys. He was also dying of tuberculosis and he knew it; he took reckless chances because he didn't have anything to lose, and that made him dangerous..
He really was one of the fastest pistoleers and feared for it (same with Ringo). At the time being a 'fast draw' meant that someone was a hothead and would draw and shoot you at the slightest provocation, however :P
Holiday left Georgia under a cloud. It was more than tuberculosis. I’ve read that there is suspicion he committed murder of some teens at a local swimming hole.
What made him truly dangerous was that he knew that he was dying and didn't really care if he got killed (he may have had a death wish), it made him very trigger happy and intimidating.
@@josephwalther5979 Biehn also appeared in the second season episode of *The Mandalorian* "The Jedi". Cassie's also seen him as Commander Anderson in *The Rock* . By this point, I'm pretty surprised that she didn't recognize him in *Tombstone* .
If you want to stay on a Western line, one that I don't see many mentioning is Silverado. It was filmed a little earlier than Tombstone and it's the first movie I ever saw Kevin Costner in. It's jam packed with famous actors from that time. I put it right up there with Tombstone and right behind The Outlaw Josey Wales (Clint Eastwood).
In the "Hell's comin' with me" scene, the significance of the wound Wyatt gave Ike with his spur (a piece of riding tack used to 'spur' the horse instinctively to greater speed, as its non-wounding touch simulated the claws of a predator on the horse's flanks) was not anything about being 'heeled' because spurs are worn on the heels. That was just an expression that Johnny Tyler, back at The Oriental's faro table, had used about Wyatt not carrying a weapon, a fact that Johnny could easily see by the absence of a gun belt around Wyatt's waist. Wyatt gave Ike what was known as a 'Mexican tattoo', a sign of cowardice to anyone Ike would meet, because you could only get wounded in the face by a spur like that while down on the ground begging for your life. (BTW, the expression wasn't saying Mexicans were cowardly, but rather that spur-wearing _vaqueros,_ or Mexican cowboys, were perhaps the first ones to mark a coward in this way.)
Doc was actually a dentist for awhile , that's where the "Doc" came from. A movie you both would enjoy is Quigley Down Under. It's got Tom Selleck and Laura San Giacomo and Alan Rickman from Die Hard. It's got everything you guys love in a movie
Glad you finally got around to this. One of the best westerns ever. My step dad was the armorer on this movie and said Val Kilmer never broke role even, after the scene was finished. He was Doc for as long as he was on the set. Good stuff, thank you!
The "good Cowboy" y'all love so much is the guy that kidnapped peter in Guardians of the Galaxy. They did such a good job of costuming in this movie that many actors went unnoticed even by their fans. There was a sitcom in the 90s my family watched, I think it was called Wings, which had one of these actors in it. But I was the only one to recognize him and only then because of his voice. He was the guy Doc winked at in the OK Corral. Has since been in a lot of stuff. A few things, for a man, getting slapped in the face, especially by another man is degrading and one of the quickest ways to trigger rage. So for Wyatt to slap the guy and he back down, it showed he was a coward, then coming back with a shotgun cemented it. Also that actor was Billy Bob Thornton. Doc Holliday was known for saying he'd die with his boots on (true or not), thinking his lifestyle would kill him long before the TB, so his last scene where he said "this is funny", was the irony of his life coming back in his last moment. All the times he should have died, and he died in a bed with his boots off. That's why he picked the fight with Ringo, he always hoped to meet someone who could best him and kill him before the TB got him. So his line of "You're no Daisy at all" calls back to when Ringo was picking a fight, and he said, "you're daisy if you do". Daisy being a western colloquialism for good/excellent. Virgil Earp was played by Sam Elliot, who WAS in A Star Is Born (the newest one) with Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper. He was even in a marvel movie, but unfortunately everyone forgets that movie exists. The historical accuracy of the movie has been debated since it came out, but it's agreed that it's MOSTLY accurate. It IS true that early western movie stars were at his funeral, and Tom Mix was known to be a hard man who never showed emotion, so for him to cry was something special. This movie does such a great job of using old terms, ideas, and language and putting them into a movie that stands the test of time.
William S. Hart was the other Western Actor mentioned as being at Wyatt's funeral. Hart was a legend in Western silent films, as famous as Chaplin and Mary Pickford, and of the most famous people in the US. Newhall CA north Los Angeles county is where a lot of his movies were filmed, and the town still hosts a yearly Cowboy Festival. He has a High School named after him too.
Doc was a Dentist, and yes, pretty much everyone feared him and his gun, even Ringo! Speaking of which one of the actors you missed Kyle Reese, John Connors father. The other "Mustache" Virgil, was Sam Elliot, and did in fact play a lot of these type roles thru out his career and so many more. Kurt Russell has made SO many good movies, you need to get caught up on. This movie had a ton of talented actors. Probably one of the best ever put together. Thanks so much for sharing. #2 in all the total polls..... Guess it's time for #1 huh?
The actor who played Kyle Reese in *Terminator* -- and Cpl. Hicks in *Aliens* , Commander Anderson (the leader of the Navy SEAL team that was shot up in the tub room) in *The Rock* , and Lang in episode 13 of the second season of *The Mandalorian* is Michael Biehn.
Fun fact: Doc was a terrible shot. He participated in several shooting tourneys and basically came in dead last in all of them. He was not the man portrayed in this movie.
Sam Elliot is also in the Spinoff series for Yellowstone.1883? It's starts of really good but gets a bit repetitive after a bit. Yellowstone is a "present day" western. It is pretty good, but can be a little repetitive too. As in the same sort of formula every season. "A" happens which cause character "B" to do something which causes "Event "C" an on and on. But the woman that plays Kevin Costner's daughter steals the show for me.
I love the scene where Doc tells Wyatt why Ringo does what he does. In reality, Doc is talking about himself. He understands Ringo because they are very similar.
Yeah, that is why Doc says earlier in the movie when he is talking to Kate "Yes, but there’s just something about him. Something around the eyes, I don’t know, reminds me of… me. No. I’m sure of it, I hate him."
Doc with the cup and his first confrontation with Ringo was so brilliant. Doc gauges ringos speed which hand and how he draws. That's why he was so confident the whole movie when everyone else was afraid of ringos reputation.
Also take into consideration that Ringo probably spent hours to perfect that spinning gun trick. Doc saw it ONCE and did it perfect with a cup. Everbody thinks that he is just messing around and laugh. But not Ringo, he knows that Doc is good and he don't think he can beat him.
Interesting historical fact. Wyatt was the only one who wasn't actually shot at the O. K. Corral. Doc, Virgil, and the other brother were all wounded in that gunfight. On a side note, I met a descendant of Wyatt Earp. He was very proud. Wyatt Earp is my second most favorite historical figure.
“There’s no normal life Wyatt there’s just life. Now get on with it.” Val Kilmer stole the show in this movie. You should watch him in (1992) Thunderheart. I love it when you two sisters 🥰🥰 get together to react for us. ♥️
It's believed that the scene at the creek between Wyatt and Curly Bill happened almost exactly as depicted, which is astounding. As far as other westerns, The Magnificent Seven, and McClintock are both ones i think you'd enjoy.
It’s not, no. What actually happened is the Earp posse set up camp like 50 ft from the Cowboys. Wyatt wandered off to piss and stumbled upon the Cowboys who were camped out down in a ravine near the creek. Wyatt said in his book he and Curly Bill just locked eyes for a second before Wyatt quickly aimed his double barrel and cut Curly Bill in half. The rest of the Earp posse quickly joined the fight. The cowboys were sitting ducks. There was never an ambush, just a lucky accident. Afterwards, Wyatt had over a dozen bullet holes in his trench coat but was never hit
@@GorramT This version works better for the film. I never expect 100% accuracy in films because the entertainment value is very important.. and in many cases more interesting
@@shiranuiaensland1442 That year was stacked. I think Val Kilmer should have at least been nominated but I don't know who I'd remove to give him a spot.
The studio dumped Tombstone into theaters without a lot of publicity or screenings for movie critics. Roger Ebert noted that he would have lobbied hard for a Best Supporting Actor nomination for Val Kilmer if he had seen the movie earlier than he did. Everyone thought that the Kevin Costner film about Wyatt Earp was going to be the bigger and more important movie.
When Morgan told Wyatt, "Don't let 'em get you. You're the one," _The Matrix_ had not even been conceived of in the wildest of opium den fever dreams. Morgan simply meant that Wyatt was the big name among the Earp brothers, based on his reputation as a lawman, and that someone of his fame, standing for law and order, ought not be taken down by a criminal gang. Likewise, when Wyatt holds up one finger to his departing brother Virgil at the train station after shooting Stillwell, he's not referencing some Neo-like title Morgan conferred on him, but more likely signifying something like "One red sash down, many more to go." Either that, or just grimly saying goodbye to his brother.
You should watch "Open Range" with Robert Duvall and Kevin Costner, it is highly underrated and based on your reactions to Tombstone I'm confident you will enjoy it.
The cast in this movie was amazing. Val Kilmer was a power house and completely robbed by the Academy. The Doc / Wyatt scene at the end makes me cry every single time.
This film has an amazing cast. Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer, Sam Elliot, Bill Paxton, Powers Boothe, Steven Lang, Jason Priestly, Charlton Heston, Terry OQuinn, Dana Delany, Billy Bob Thornton, Michael Biehn, all I can think of off memory.
I keep waiting for them to recognize Michael Rooker. Cassie saw him in Days of Thunder also, but I don't know if they have ever connected him to Yondu.
There are a lot of really good actors in this movie, but the best of the best was Charlton Heston who played the small role of Henry Hooker who had the ranch where Doc Holliday had to lay up while he recovered. Heston played lead roles in the epic movies Ben-Hur, The Greatest Show On Earth, Planet Of The Apes, and as Moses in The Ten Commandments. Also Sylvester Stallone's brother Frank is in the movie, as well as Harry Carey Jr who plays Marshall Fred White. The movie is narrated by Robert Mitchum.
You forgot Billy Zane....who also played the title character in the Phantom and was also in Titanic and Michael Rooker who was the Cowboy who was disgusted with the killing of the priest early in the movie and later jumped sides from the Cowboys to Wyatt's side.
Val Kilmers Doc Holliday is as iconic as Heath Ledgers Joker imo. Watched Tombstone for the first time in full last year and really made me appreciate the performance.
i usually much more of a rom com girl but Tombstone is one of my favorite movies of all time. it’s just so well acted all across the board, especially Val Kilmer and Kurt Russell. i randomly still say when i can fit it in convo “I’ll be your Huckleberry” or “You’re no daisy at all.” LOL greta reaction!
For a somewhat quirky western you should watch “The Outlaw Josey Wales.” Released in 1976, it was produced and directed by, and starring Clint Eastwood. The cast includes the incomparable Chief Dan George as Lone Watie, who steals almost every scene he’s in. The movie makes a great effort to use props and costumes authentic to its time setting (mid 1860s); no Colt SSA revolvers and Winchester ‘73s, no Levi’s. Action sequences are very well done. The film also has a fairly sympathetic portrayal of Native Americans. You should watch it and “endeavor to persevere.”
Another amazing reaction from Cassie and Carly. This is my favorite western of all time. It's a travesty that Val Kilmer wasn't nominated for his role as Doc Holliday. "I'm your huckleberry " is one of the best lines in film history.
I played as an extra in this movie. We didn't get paid, but they had catering on a daily basis and they fed us well. I even got to keep one of the movie props. I still have it in the attic somewhere.
Nice I think they pay the extra's now but they use to not do that even in 1993. But it's so cool. Was it a long day hot or cold? Did they film it in actual Tombstone?
@@johnnyfive4436 i can't answer to his film experience, but yes, they did film in arizona, mostly in Mescal, where there is an 1800s ghost town that is upkept and commonly used for filming(you've seen most of the film's version of downtown tombstone in a bunch of other movies, just with a different coat of paint). they may have filmed some shots in tombstone proper on the outskirts, but tombstone is still a functioning town and is basically a tourist trap town now, with historic downtown tombstone looking like Main Street in a wild west theme park. the OK corral still exists but is painted up and has a big OK corral sign, there are like 1930's era street lights smattered throughout downtown, pretty much the only part that's still mostly unchanged enough for filming would be the Boot Hill Cemetery(you can see it in the video at 12:21 as the earps enter town. "HERE LIES Lester Moore, four slugs from a .44, no Les no more" is a real headstone in the cemetery that belongs to a wells fargo clerk from the Naco, Arizona office. a man came in to collect a package and upon seeing the package was damaged became irate and shot Lester 4 times in the chest. Lester managed to return fire and killed his murderer before he fell to his wounds. Lester's grave is now one of the most wellknown headstones in America due to it's playful epitaph, whereas no one even knows where his killer is buried. take that, ya D*%kwad.) neat place to visit, it's like an open-air wild west museum.
Many people believe that Val Kilmer deserved the Oscar that year for this role. The nominees for Best Supporting Actor in the 66th Academy Awards were: Tommy Lee Jones as Samuel Gerard in "The Fugitive" Ralph Fiennes as Amon Göth in "Schindler's List" John Malkovich as Mitch Leary in "In the Line of Fire" Leonardo DiCaprio as Arnie Grape in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape" Pete Postlethwaite as Giuseppe Conlon in "In the Name of the Father" Other snubs include Ben Kingsley as Itzhak Stern in "Schindler's List", Sean Penn as David Kleinfeld in "Carlito's Way", certain actors in "True Romance", etc...
Man that is a murderer’s row of performances. I would say Val should have been nominated ahead of Malkovich but when that was a really good performance.
One of the greatest western ever made, Doc was a dentist, also when he looks down at his feet, and says “I’ll be damned” a gun slinger was supposed to die with his boots on. When Doc and Ringo was having there Latin conversation. It’s loosely translated as Doc “ when I drink I speak truth” Ringo “do what you do best” Doc “drinking is not what I do best” Ringo “fools must learn hard” Doc “well Rest In Peace”. I’m your Huckleberry was a popular saying in those days, it just meant I’m the guy. So many quotable lines in this movie, and just like everyone else has said, Val should’ve won an Oscar for his portrayal of Doc Holliday.
A lot of liberties were taken with this movie, but damn it’s a great movie. Also it’s like a lot of Clint Eastwood’s western, when the line between good and bad is blurry. Which is the way the real west was, from most accounts. To go heels means, to carry a gun.
The opening is definitely my favorite scene in this movie. There's no beating around the bush. This movie gets right to the point of who the good guys are and who the bad guys are.
25:54 when Doc twirls his guns he twirls them in opposite directions. Not an easy feat. Dude's attention to detail is incredible. Underappreciated actor. A shame his career went dry after Heat.
The scene @14:45 the actor playing the dirty card dealer is Billy Bob Thornton. FYI: Wyatt lived until the age of 80, Morgan was 30 when he was killed at the Billiard Parlor, Virgil died at 62 due to poor health and Pneumonia, Doc Holiday died at the age of 36 from tuberculosis.
Part of the real story is the rumor that the brothers went from officers of the law to actually being pimps (Ike called Virgil a pimp in the bar, for example). That's also where the brothers would have gotten their "wives" in this telling of the story. They're common-law married. So, there was no need for divorce in the west with Maddie's drug problem - you see that all over the movie, the opium problem - Curly Bill, Maddie. Also, the picture Josephine was having taken right outside the OK Corral is depicting a famous real picture of her. For a change of pace, but still western, Quigley Down Under might be a good one.
Not true. Virgil went to his parents house in Colton, California. Both the dad and Virgil where in the city government. Virgil protected passengers as they came off the train there and went to the old hotel (train doesn't stop there anymore and the hotel is gone). He helped keep the hotel safe for guests and it was a respected place. Colton was a dry town and no gambling. But I did hear stories about San Bernardino having a red light district that may have attracted the Earps for fun evenings and card games. Virgil is buried in Colton. I was a resident of Colton for many, many years. The little city museum has about a third of it dedicated to the Earps. Decedent's live in the surrounding area and have special Earp days.
Morgan married Lou who was anything but a prostitute, and Virgil's wife Allie was a hotel waitress when they met. Mattie was the only one that was a prostitute.
@@RedlandsRedhead927 I'm glad to hear that. I think, in fact, the sources that were used in writing the screenplay for Tombstone were discussed in some "making of" show I watched. Seems I recall them saying it's "not clear" that they were pimps, but that's the story they decided to hint at in the movie because it's in the lore, whether verified or not. Glad it wasn't made really a central part of the telling. Glad to hear some clarification.
Also, kinda think Jason Priestly was originally hired to be Marshal Fred White who was a young man in real life at that time. When they changed direction, they kept him on (?). I think that's right. He'd have made a great Marshal White, adding pathos to his death at Curly Bill's hands. But it's hard to improve this nearly perfect film.
Tombstone is up there as one of my favorite movies of all time. The amount of future A-Listers hidden throughout that movie is incredible. And you mentioning True Lies during the intro. Yall in for a treat, both are fantastic. True Lies really put Arnold on a new level, of not just being "an action guy" and instead an actual actor. He's fantastic in it. Edit ; Another really good western that has a lighter motif than Tombstone but is up there is Silverado. With Kevin Kline and Danny Glover
Yup, that's why Johnny wasn't laughing when everyone else was after. A drunk, sick, and tired Doc perfectly imitated his routine perfectly in one take after seeing it only once. Johnny Ringo figured out he picked a fight with a heavyweight early on. It's why he keeps trying to avoid him after.
@@angrydre7644 it's like walking down the street and you bump into someone and you start running your mouth "watch where you're going" etc. and you turn around to see Mike Tyson
Heels: being armed, standing back on one's heels. Daisy: the toughest flower., outlasts all others. Lunger: Tuberculosis victim Beahan: was the useless County Sheriff, while the Earp's were the Town Marshals. The actress was making porn photographs ( what was considered that in those days) next to the O. K. corral. And Lady's, you need to work on your Sam Elliot films: Big Lebowski was more of a cameo.
The laugh when Doc/Val winked at the Cowboys was worth the "like" all in itself. : ) The reactions are superb but are even better when its the two of you.
This is easily one of my favourite films of all time. Top notch writing, superb cast, kick-ass score. Kurt Russell was born to play that role and Val Kilmer deserved an Oscar for his scene-stealing performance.
You're a daisy if you do is also one of Val Kilmers great lines in this movie ...and when he tells Wyatt at the end that he was the only person who ever gave him hope 😢 every time that tear rolls down his face it gets me
The line "This is funny" was Doc's last words. He always expected to die in a gunfight with his boots on. Dying in hospital without his boots on funny to him.
Yes, it is a true story. Including the part when Wyatt walked across the river in the middle of the crossfire and no bullets hit him. That incident was backed by his men that were with him at the time, all of whom were also in shock and surprised he wasn't hit. Amazing movie!
the one moment that seems like it would be all hollywood ends up being the most true moment in the entire movie. They say not a single bullet actually hit him until afterwards the duster he was wearing had bullet holes, so quite a few shots did come close.
@@desperateambrose5373 I read about bullet holes in his duster and saddle bag and one in the heel of his boot.But I don't know ,one thing will say this another will say that
Not all of it is true. There is no evidence that Doc Holliday killed Johnny Ringo. Fred White died the next day, and Curly Bill did express regret for accidentally shooting White.
The actor who played Ike Clanton is Stephen Lang, who played both General George Pickett and General Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson in _Gettysburg_ and _Gods And Generals_ respectively. He also played the blind man in _Don't Breathe._
One thing about this film that I love, despite being wrong, is the characters' ages. At the time of the real events, Virgil Earp was 38, Wyatt Earp was 33, and Doc Holliday was 30. By casting actors who were 10-15 years older than their characters it really emphasizes how quickly people grew old and how tough life was.
While watching I was thinking about an older classic western I think you'd like. Rio Bravo with John Wayne, Dean Martin, Ricky Nelson and Angie Dickinson. Pretty simple plot but absolutely iconic acting and scenes. Just the kind of charming that I think you'd love.
I really love how you two react to movies. Johnny was the guy in terminator, Kyle. He was also in the Rock, the leader of the SEAL team. Doc Holiday was a dentist.
Michael Biehn was Johnny Ringo but he was in The Rock and was Kyle Reese in The Terminator in 1984. Michael Biehn was in Navy Seals in 1990 and Corporal Hicks in Aliens in 1986.
You must be the only 2 people in America who have never heard of the 1881 gunfight at the OK Corral with these very famous people in Tombstone Arizona. Everybody in America knows who Wyatt Earp was. Doc was a dentist from Georgia.
This is such an iconic movie that almost never was. Directors were hired and fired, infighting with producers and cast members. There was supposed to be much more scenes with the cowboys. In the end it's rumored that Kurt Russell was able to bring everyone together to get a finished movie together, and alot of the actors credit Kurt Russell as the director. "Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave." One of the coolest lines ever. Great reaction, thank you.
It was a true story. The gunfight at the OK Coral actually happened in Tombstone Arizona. Throughout much of his later years, Wyatt Earp regretted his tainted reputation in some social spheres as being a heavy-handed lawman. He was bitter about that, and the life full of adversity which he lived.
I’ve actually been to tombstone I’ve been in that birdcage theater. It’s amazing went to the boot hill there as well saw the graves of all the guys killed in the OK corral, including Fred White, that marshal that got killed by Curly Bill. And, like one of your other viewers, said Val Kilmer should have gotten the Oscar for that performance. And Johnny Ringo was found dead at the base of a tree, and they all speculated that doc killed him
The movie gets extra credit for the narration by Robert Mitchum and the appearance of Charlton Heston. The cameo appearance of Frank Stallone in the early scene with Doc was bonus. At first I thought it was his brother Sly Stallone. I saw an interview with Michael Biehn where he said the good guys and the cowboys were intentionally kept from socializing off screen. This was done to keep the tension or rivalry between the actors.
My family had a frightening medical emergency this week, so I really needed one of my favorite reaction channels with one of my favorite movies. Thank you so much! I love how Cassie recognized the name "OK Corral" as a nail polish.😂
When I figured out this movie was based on true events, I did some research on who those characters were and this movie fascinates me in learning about the events of Tombstone, Arizona.
i saw this when i was in 7th grade back in 2010 in my film class. its on my top 100 favorite films of all time. i recently started collecting vhs tapes because i found my old vcr and this was the first i watched! i quote from this movie all the time, especially quoting Doc. so glad you reacted to this! ❤
I love when sister joins! Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the reactions that you do by yourself. It's just that I enjoy watching movies with my brothers so it makes it more fun when I see you two together ❤
Classic from the 90s. Val Kilmer's best performance. Kurt Russel deserves director credit because he carried the film when they lost their director and the new one didn't have time to develop a vision for it. One of my favorites.
Doc Holiday was formerly a Dentist, he had a pension for gambling, I believe that this movie had such an iconic cast, and will always be one of my favorites
I'm so happy. My favorite reactors reacting to my favorite movie with my favorite character. Glad you finally got to see Val Kilmer's best performance. So many great quotable lines in this movie.
One of the last great Westerns ever made. It's also one of the most underrated Westerns ever made. People think of it as a mindless action film unlike Unforgiven. But the acting and the screenplay for Tombstone is top notch.
Grew up on the Sandretto Ranch in Prescott Az. I remember visiting Old tombstone in 1961. Tom Mix Monument is just south of Florence Arizona. He was friends with another one that attended Wyatt's funeral. That would have been Hoot Gibson who was also our neighbor. Although Tombstone was more popular because of it's silver deposits and smuggling it was Jerome Arizona that was consider the most dangerous place in the country.
Val Kilmer deserved an Oscar for this role. Absolutely iconic!
2 One for each Gun!
He had many more roles in the 90's that deserved a Oscar, like his portrayal of Jim Morrison in Oliver Stone's The Doors from 1991,
Agreed 👍
Val is to Doc what Heath was to Joker.
@@NecramoniumVideo I liked Val Kilmer in The Saint
In an 1896 article, Wyatt Earp said “Doc [Holliday] was a dentist whom necessity had made a gambler; a gentleman whom disease had made a frontier vagabond; a philosopher whom life had made a caustic wit; a long lean ash-blond fellow nearly dead with consumption, and at the same time the most skillful gambler and the nerviest, speediest, deadliest man with a gun that I ever knew.”
This is literally the most badass thing I've ever read.
@@clevelandcbi I concur!
He was a dentist. He moved (from somewhere, I forget... up north I think) to Denison Texas (not far from Dallas) to practice dentistry. Denison is not very far from my hometown. It's true. He was a dentist, which is how he contracted TB. He moved to the west due to the drier air, gave up dentistry and made his own way through gambling and fighting.
@@RazorBacksFan1980 I thought that was how he got it too, but now I'm seeing comments saying he got it at 17 from his mother?? Did you catch that Tarantino made King Schultz in Django a former dentist too? I somehow missed that but my daughter caught it.
Iconic quotes
"I'm your huckleberry."
In my opinion, Val Kilmer's greatest role. His portrayal as Doc Holliday was what made this film. Also, Val Kilmer wasn't even nominated for a Best Supporting Actor Oscar, but he should have been.
Also, the scene where Wyatt Earp (Kurt Russell) is wading through the river actually happened. There were a dozen men firing all over the place and Wyatt never so much as got grazed.
Agreed. Amazing performance by Kilmer. He steals every scene he's in, and that's not a bad thing in this case.
Agreed. I saw this film in theaters when it was released in 1993. I was 22 and grew up on Westerns because I watched them with my grandparents. Loved this film then and now. Even to this day, 30 years later, that last scene between Doc (Kilmer) and Earp (Russell) still brings tears to my eyes. Such a great film.
@@antoniochasten3192 I was an usher at a theater in 1993. I sold you popcorn, probably, but got to see this about 50 times...for free! lol sorry. it was the only benefit of the job!
@@antoniochasten3192 same here. Saw in theater at 22 lol. Maybe you were there!! 😂
@@akashenk never knew that.
"Doc" Holliday was in fact a doctor, he had a thriving dental practice until he contracted TB (aka a 'lunger') and had to close it. He ended up being a wandering gambler and gunfighter, in a vain hope of not dying of TB in some hospital bed. The end of the movie when he looks down at his feet and laughs saying "Ill be damned" meaning despite all his attempts, he didnt die with his boots on and instead died in a hospital bed. This is one of the reasons why he was so deadly a gunfighter, not just his speed but also his devil may care attitude, taunting people to go ahead and try to kill him.
i love just how many potential "Suicide attempts" are in the film too.
- the fight with bill bailey in the beginning, intentionally disarming himself and placing his loaded guns on the table, barrels facing himself, handles facing Bailey. he may as well have just pre-cocked it for him.
- when he runs out of ammo in his primary pistol during the Corral shootout, he challenges that cowboy to shoot him, then intentionally misses(cowboy is at doc's 12 o clock, doc's whole arm is aiming for 2 : 30), he knew the fight was over, the earps were safe, and they'd light the cowboy up after the cowboy shot him.
- the drunken gambling with Ike clanton, Morgan say he's been at it for hours, Ike just came in maybe an hour ago, and Morg tried to get him to call it a night but he refused. he refused because Ike was exactly the kind of person he'd been waiting for: uneducated, hostile, impulsive, easy to goad into a fight. that's why he lay's it on so thick with the spelling contest line and the "HWHY IKE, HWHATEVAH DO YOU MEAN??".
- and then finally you have the duel with ringo. Doc just got told his health is deteriorated and he's now on a very limited timeline. he shoots ringo, once again saving Wyatt from danger, but Ringo's still alive and standing. He sees another potential opportunity to check out, and starts goading Ringo to shoot him but Ringo can't get his gun up and discharges his shot into the ground before collapsing. Doc's line "Your no daisy, you're no daisy at all" is both mocking him for losing and also is an admonishment of ringo's broken promise "I'll put you out of your misery". hence why doc repeated the line from their previous exchange, "say hwhen....", before they drew. he was reminding Ringo of his promise. Doc was hoping for a double KO.
@@gourdguru doc was in colorado when ringo died!
I thought Lunger was his real name LOL.....I learn more and more each time i watch that movie...Such a classic. :)
he usually shot the gun out of people's hand so he wouldn't get strung up or hanged!!
I have seen this movie I don’t know how many times. It was watched obsessively my first deployment, nearly 20 years after I got out I still feel compelled to finish it any time it’s on. And in all that time I never knew what “lunger” met. Appreciate you finally solving the mystery.
Best line ever, “hell, I got lots of friends” “I don’t”
A very quotable movie
I prefer;
You ever seen anything like that?
Hell, I never even heard of anything like that.
Buck Taylor great actor and fine person he does artwork. If you notice he's wearing a square and compass of a freemason around his neck which would be a small nod to why he has lots of friends.
"I was just foolin' about"
"I wasn't."
I ain't easy and I ain't your kid
"You're no daisy at'all." Cold blooded thing to say to a man collapsing under your sidearm headshot. A blind shot. Hip fire. Greatest rendering of the old west I've ever seen in a movie. Val Kilmer was robbed the accolades he deserved for this. Probably one of the most memorable performances I can think of.
Well said! I do wish they hadn't used the hip shot though, no real gunfighter used such shots, that was for trick shooters, and even the best trick shooters would tell how they'd NEVER use a trick or hip shot in a real fight under any circumstances. I guess it worked well for the movie, who woykd knjw such things besides needs like me lol.
@beentheredonethat5908 that's actually good to know, thank you.
He may not have the statue, but we all know he was the real winner. He's the winner in our hearts! I hope he knows we feel that way. ❤
@@jtoland2333 Exactly right. We all know he won, and deserved every bit of it and more.
DarthRaider520,
I agree totally with what you said. I somehow wish the Academy could present Val with a lifetime achievement award.
I know it's not the same, but they need to figure something out to try & makeup for the mistake.
Hopefully someday they can reward Val with the recognition he so rightfully deserves. It was a masterpiece of acting. A+
Doc replying “I got two guns… one for each of ya’s” is such a comically golden line that’s looked over
I quote it all the time!
I once said that line after a night of drinking. My dad cracked up harder than I'd ever heard up till that point
That's not what he said ya ignorant wretch. Ya not ya's He wasn't a yankee.
That's not what he said ya ignorant wretch. Ya not ya's He wasn't a yankee.
What I have always loved, and it's so subtle, is that even after Doc says he doesn't want to play anymore, Wyatt deals the cards--and Doc STILL wins. Such a great touch.
Fun fact: When Doc is spinning the cup, it's funny and terrifying because it's not a pistol but he mimicked Ringo's movements exactly... and Ringo knows it.
Focusing on the spinning let Doc not reveal his draw like Ringo did.
"Behold a pale horse... Who rides on it is death" the only real pale horse the actress rides on during the picnic scene. Hell and death follows.
Ringos gun twirling exhibition was an intimidation ploy to show he was the alpha he's aware of Holidays reputation with a gun but Holiday throws it back in his face by mimicking his moves with a cup as if to say I'm not impressed or intimidated by you
Precisely. Twirling your gun, especially while locking eyes with someone, demonstrated muscle memory, dexterity, and familiarity with a firearm, indicating how effortlessly the gun handler used it. To pistoleros, Ringo's display would have been intimidating. To Doc, who regards himself as already dead, it basically just reinforced what he already knew of Ringo. When Doc copies the entire sequence perfectly, it shows how dangerous HE actually is, without drawing a weapon.
Doc Holliday was originally a dentist, hence the name doc. Val Kilmer 100% deserved an Oscar for this role, the best character to ever grace the screen. So glad you enjoyed soo much and hope you do more westerns, its an expansive genre that covers a lot of depth, especially if you watch the good ones.. loved the reaction as always 😁😁
He was in love with his cousin, and she did become a nun.
Yes, Val deserved the Oscar that year. But so did Ralph Fiennes, Leonardo DiCaprio, Sean Penn, etc...
I always thought Val Kilmer absolutely stole this film right out from under Kurt Russell, who was quite good as Wyatt Earp, but Kilmer was just on another level. The height of his career.
"You called down the thunder, now you got it!" I love that line. I use it when I get frustrated with hard to open packages.
"Say when."
Simple & deadly.
Those clamshell packages are the devils work 😂
😭😂
Hahahaha!!! I just might have to adopt the line for usage in the same scenario. Brilliant, sir! XD
You tellem I'm coming and hell's coming with me
Charlton Heston's voice is so commanding and distinguished. Robert Mitchum was outstanding in narrating this movie. There were tons of Stars in this movie. Val Kilmer was the biggest hit in this movie.
Michael Rosenbaum (Lex Luthor from Smallville) has a great podcast called inside of you. He had Michael Biehn on and they did an extended discussion about the making of tombstone. It is absolutely insane to listen to everything that went wrong behind the scenes and yes they still managed to make one of the greatest westerns in history.
If you love the movie it’s absolutely must listening
The "I'm your huckleberry" was nothing until Val delivered it here in his iconic role. In a movie full of good actors doing good acting, it was primarily his character that took this movie from very good to all-time top tier in the Western genre.
It is actually Huckle Bearer. The Huckle is the handle on the casket. Bearer is the pallbearer.
@@brycehiigel235 No, it's not. "Huckle Bearer" would've made sense, but he actually said "huckleberry." Val Kilmer said as much, and it's in the script, which you can read online.
@@greggross8856 that’s what I thought at first. But from another reaction and listening closely you can really hear him say Huckle Bearer in on of his comments.
Kilmer as Doc was one of the most magnetic performances I've ever seen. Every single shot of him evokes some kind of reaction in the viewer. And then he got to deliver the superb dialogue from Kevin Jarre's screenplay. Talk about lightning in a bottle.
@@slchance8839 In the script, it's huckleberry. And Val himself said that's what he said. I trust the script and I trust him.
What's funny is the most unbelievable scene when Wyatt walked into the creek with bullets flying, shoots and kills curly bill is actually pretty accurate.
Pistols were wildly inaccurate before rifling and standard ammunition were commonplace, especially if using powder & ball or beyond 50ft. Wyatt uses a shotgun because he knows he won't miss with scattershot.
@@LordVolkov Doesn't matter. He still went out.
@@LordVolkov Most of these handguns had rifled barrels. Pretty much began in the percussion cap revolver era with the Patterson.
Actually Wyatts posse stumbled upon curly bills posse in the desert about 25 miles northwest of tombstone. Wyatt hit him with both barrels and about cut him in half. But lots of interesting facts about this story from the locals. Worth visiting. I am going there again tomorrow.
That isn't what happened.
The shootout between Wyatt and Curly Bill is one of those rare events that had to be toned down by Hollywood because the real event was too unbelievable. (Another great one is in The Ghost and the Darkness, also Val Kilmer). Irl Curly Bill had a shotgun loaded with buckshot. He shot both barrels directly at Wyatt and missed him completely. Afterward, he had bullet holes all around him through his coat. He was already a legend, but the whole "immortal" thing propelled him into mythical territory.
Dang right! Also love Ghost and the Darkness!
God's hand was on him
@@ricomusap614 AMEN
Sounds like George Washington having bullet holes in his coat but no wounds
Also had a boot heel shot off....the man scared bullets is all I can figure😂
The scene where doc spins the cup, is actually a dynamic moment. Ringo goes ahead and shows doc his speed with a pistol, but doc never shows him how fast he is.
Not to mention that Doc did that while drunk as a skunk so imagine if he'd been sober.
The Scene where Doc meets Ringo in the Saloon is amazing. One of you mentioned you wanted a translation. It becomes even better when you hear it. Watch it again once you know the meaning at it becomes legendary. Doc says "En vino veritas"(in wine there is truth) implying he was drunk but not lying. Ringo responds "Age quod agis" ( Do what you are doing) basically telling him he is just a drunk. Doc counters "Credat judaeus apella, non ego" let the jew apella believe, Not I" Now this is great because he is quoting the ancient Roman poet Horace here, dismissing Ringo that a being a drunk is not what he does. Ringo smiles and taunts Doc by touching his fingers on the handle of his pistol and says invitingly " Iuventus stultorum magister " (Youth is the teacher of fools) Ringo is telling Doc he is a fool to think he is in the same league as him and he will teach him a lesson. Doc immediately, coldly and as matter of fact delivers the answer " In pace requiescat" ( Rest in peace) or It's your funeral my friend lol. Kurt Russel was basically the director of this film and he cut his own lines and screen time down because Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday made this film. One of my favorite movie scenes is when Doc is asked why he is out riding with Wyatt and Doc says Wyatt is his friend, Creek says I got lots of friends, Doc admits " I dont "
Thank you very much for that translation. That's got to be the best Latin cinema dialogue ever!
Not to mention but the part that comes after that section of the scene in the bar between Ringo and Doc also fills in more of the details that Cassie and Carrie might not have picked up on. But Ringo then goes on to display his gun handling skills. Everyone is rightly impressed as it is quite a fancy display of speed and precision. However Doc then proceeds to do the exact same moves with his cup. You can see Ringo's face change through this from one of pride, to then slight annoyance, to then finally awes and even a bit of fright as he realizes that Doc is showing him up, but in a way only Ringo will truly understand. This is because, just with a single watch of what Ringo did, Doc is able to replicate each and every move perfectly and in the same order while also using something that is not as easy to control on a finger as a revolver since a cup is much less balanced, and while being visibly impaired. It's why Ringo from that point on was respectful and even fearful of Doc, knowing that if his skills were that good when intoxicated, they would be even better when sober and when he truly meant business.
It's subtle things like that which make this movie so absolutely perfect.
Another thing that's great is When Doc is twirling the shot glass he learns Ringo's draw speed while not giving away his own, which helps him during the grove shootout.
The info you supply is great great great ~ And you are correct, the translation makes the scene sooooooooooooooooooooooo much better, and funnier. Thank you so much for that. And kurt Russell was right ~ Kilmer absolutely stole this movie right out from under him. Kilmer's finest performance, bar none-by a long shot.
@@jocko774 holy shit, i've never put that together before, but you're absolutely right, ringo gave away the goods, but doc gave him nothing in return.....
Wyatt Earp was a real person. In his life, he didn't so much as get a scratch. Amazing. Kevin Costner did a film about Wyatt Earp too. It shows Wyatt in his younger days and what shaped him into the man he became.👍
A few years ago, this movie was playing on the TV in the coffee shop at work. A co-worker in her 30s had no idea Wyatt Earp was a real person.
I thought Wyatt Earp with Kevin Costner was a great movie. Different than Tombstone but equally great in my opinion.
Ots crazy how new york in the 80s was more dangerous than the wild west. Lol animals
I don't always like Kevin Costner as an actor, but he is amazing in all the westerns he has done. Not a single miss, but Open Range is probably my favorite western. Probably a controversial pick over Dances With Wolves, but the shootout was too good.
Total tangent, but wasnt costner the villian in 3000 miles to graceland?i need to rewatch that.thats a kurt movie too aint it?
It's understandable to not recognize Kurt Russell, since he's technically co-starring with Kurt Russell's Mustache to really bring the character to life.
Kurtrussell also ghost directed this whole thing
I heard his mustache went solo after this movie, which is why we never see them together again.
@@AudieHollanduntil the hateful eight 😊
It is unforgivable for any living breathing female not to recognize Kurt Russell no matter the facial hair!
I've seen this movie about 47,285 times but watching it with Cassie and Carly was the best time 😘
I agree. I know they get paid for reacting to movies, but I still like to watch them.
Same here😀
Doc's death scene resonates with such a sense of poignant beauty. It is both sad and beautiful. The friendship between Wyatt and Doc is beautiful, the way Doc recalls his one true love and how she was all he ever wanted is beautiful (makes you wonder if he turned to a life of crime as a way to fill up the emptiness left in his heart), and Doc's "philosophy of life" is beautiful ("take that beauty and run; don't look back"). It is, without question, one of my favorite scenes in any movie. Anyone else love that scene as much as I do?
Yes, much to his surprise Doc died with his boots off.
Earp’s final words to Holliday always get me: Thanks for always bein’ there, Doc.
I mean, what else could you ask of a friend?
@@BlanketMan same. True Friendship.
Love that scene so much as well.
It's also very poignant his last lines in the movie were Doc Holliday's actual last words, him looking at his feet and saying, "Well, I'll be damned, this is funny.". Doc Holliday always thought he would die with his boots on.
Everything Doc says in this movie can be quoted. I love it. Shame Val didn’t get an Oscar for it.
A fantastic western, and a great film for you and your sister to watch together. Val Kilmer as Doc is the standout of the film. One of my favorite lines of his, if not my favorite is, “I have two guns. One for each of ya.” Of course, there’s also his great response of “You're a daisy if ya do.”
And a true story
He also spins his guns in opposite directions after the Two Guns line.
@@StevenLMaldonado Yeah, I've noticed that. It is a nice little touch to the scene.
If you look closely, when he says, "...two guns, one for each of ya..." he spins them, one forward and the other backward. Val must have practiced a bit.
I'm your huckleberry.
The whole cast grew their own moustaches, no fakes, and Wyatt Earp's great-grandson was also in the film. (maybe great, great grandson) One of the best ways to film history, lots of facts with artistic license stimulating the watcher to read up on the details.
Wyatt Earp III is Wyatt's fifth cousin, Wyatt Earp had no surviving children.
So much acting talent in this movie. And everyone nails their role. From every villain to hero, they all just nailed it!
yup. powers boothe was amazing.
@@zzz7zzz9 Well....Bye
The one exception in this movie, IMO, is Morgan Earp. Paxton did fine, but I don't like that they made him kind of a pansy. I like the portrayal of Morgan in "Wyatt Earp" better where he was gung ho on killing them all.
@@zzz7zzz9 Of course he was even better in "Deadwood."
Let's give Stephen Lange his due. He did a phenomenal job as Ike.
One of the actors most people miss is Charleton Heston. He was the old rancher whose house they used to put Doc in towards the end. Do an IMDB on him and you'll see some of the iconic movies he's done. The 10 Commandments is probably his most famous.
Ben hur planet of the apes, the omega man, soylent green tons of great films.
And narrated by Robert Mitchum. Also has Buck Taylor, "Newly" from Gunsmoke.
The actor that no one notices/recognizes is the card dealer that Kurt Russell slaps is played by Billy Bob Thornton.
Dam I missed that and I have seen this a zillion times.
@@samuraienterprises9802 That I knew. :)
This movie still holds up well after 30 years, it's a modern classic
Agreed
This movie is actually my all-time favorite western. Absolutely fantastic. Really amazing film. And it has an all-star cast. Kurt Russel as Wyatt, Val Kilmer as Doc, Bill Paxton as Morgan, Sam Elliott as Virgil, Powers Boothe as Curly Bill, Michael Biehn (Terminator) as Johnny Ringo, Billy Zane (Titanic) as Fabian, Stephen Lang (Avatar) as Ike Clanton, Thomas Hayden Church (Spider Man 3) as Billy Clanton, Michael Rooker (Guardians of The Galaxy) as McMasters, Jon Tenney (Fools Rush In) as Behan, Dana Delaney as Josephine, Billy Bob Thornton as Johnny Tyler, Jason Priestly (Beverly Hills 90210) as Billy Breckinridge, the legendary Charlton Heston as Henry Hooker and Robert Mitchum as the narrator...it just keeps going - and yes, it is a true story.
Doc wasn't a good guy, but he was better than the really bad guys. He was also dying of tuberculosis and he knew it; he took reckless chances because he didn't have anything to lose, and that made him dangerous..
He really was one of the fastest pistoleers and feared for it (same with Ringo). At the time being a 'fast draw' meant that someone was a hothead and would draw and shoot you at the slightest provocation, however :P
Holiday left Georgia under a cloud. It was more than tuberculosis. I’ve read that there is suspicion he committed murder of some teens at a local swimming hole.
What made him truly dangerous was that he knew that he was dying and didn't really care if he got killed (he may have had a death wish), it made him very trigger happy and intimidating.
@@sartanawillpay7977he probably just saw any time he had left after his diagnosis as “extra”
Johnny Ringo was played by Michael Biehn who played Kyle in the first Terminator movie.
And Michael and John Paxson we're both in the movie Aliens
@@josephwalther5979 Biehn also appeared in the second season episode of *The Mandalorian* "The Jedi". Cassie's also seen him as Commander Anderson in *The Rock* . By this point, I'm pretty surprised that she didn't recognize him in *Tombstone* .
And Hicks from Aliens! Also in The Rock and others.
@@gregsager2062 like they said it was the mustaches. Lol
If you want to stay on a Western line, one that I don't see many mentioning is Silverado. It was filmed a little earlier than Tombstone and it's the first movie I ever saw Kevin Costner in. It's jam packed with famous actors from that time. I put it right up there with Tombstone and right behind The Outlaw Josey Wales (Clint Eastwood).
"Unforgiven" is an absolute must-watch Western
Can't say enough good things about Silverado
Silverado is so underrated! Open Range still has to be my favorite western of all time though.
Agreed. This is always at the top of my list for Westerns.
@@JonNo86 Open Range is great but I wanted them to see the young Kevin Costner before suggesting it.
In the "Hell's comin' with me" scene, the significance of the wound Wyatt gave Ike with his spur (a piece of riding tack used to 'spur' the horse instinctively to greater speed, as its non-wounding touch simulated the claws of a predator on the horse's flanks) was not anything about being 'heeled' because spurs are worn on the heels. That was just an expression that Johnny Tyler, back at The Oriental's faro table, had used about Wyatt not carrying a weapon, a fact that Johnny could easily see by the absence of a gun belt around Wyatt's waist.
Wyatt gave Ike what was known as a 'Mexican tattoo', a sign of cowardice to anyone Ike would meet, because you could only get wounded in the face by a spur like that while down on the ground begging for your life. (BTW, the expression wasn't saying Mexicans were cowardly, but rather that spur-wearing _vaqueros,_ or Mexican cowboys, were perhaps the first ones to mark a coward in this way.)
Doc was actually a dentist for awhile , that's where the "Doc" came from. A movie you both would enjoy is Quigley Down Under. It's got Tom Selleck and Laura San Giacomo and Alan Rickman from Die Hard. It's got everything you guys love in a movie
Yes Quigley down under is great and has a great score as well
And a nice love story 😊
I love Quigley Down Under, It's an incredible movie, and nobody has ever heard of it. What a shame.
Some rough scenes of genocide in that one 😬
Silverado would also be a good movie for their next western
“There’s no normal life, Wyatt, it’s just life. Get on with it.” One of my favorite quotes.
Glad you finally got around to this. One of the best westerns ever. My step dad was the armorer on this movie and said Val Kilmer never broke role even, after the scene was finished. He was Doc for as long as he was on the set. Good stuff, thank you!
Lovely anacdote
Val is definitely a method actor. Interesting guy. Absolutely heartbreaking what he is going through.
The "good Cowboy" y'all love so much is the guy that kidnapped peter in Guardians of the Galaxy. They did such a good job of costuming in this movie that many actors went unnoticed even by their fans. There was a sitcom in the 90s my family watched, I think it was called Wings, which had one of these actors in it. But I was the only one to recognize him and only then because of his voice. He was the guy Doc winked at in the OK Corral. Has since been in a lot of stuff.
A few things, for a man, getting slapped in the face, especially by another man is degrading and one of the quickest ways to trigger rage. So for Wyatt to slap the guy and he back down, it showed he was a coward, then coming back with a shotgun cemented it. Also that actor was Billy Bob Thornton.
Doc Holliday was known for saying he'd die with his boots on (true or not), thinking his lifestyle would kill him long before the TB, so his last scene where he said "this is funny", was the irony of his life coming back in his last moment. All the times he should have died, and he died in a bed with his boots off. That's why he picked the fight with Ringo, he always hoped to meet someone who could best him and kill him before the TB got him. So his line of "You're no Daisy at all" calls back to when Ringo was picking a fight, and he said, "you're daisy if you do". Daisy being a western colloquialism for good/excellent.
Virgil Earp was played by Sam Elliot, who WAS in A Star Is Born (the newest one) with Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper. He was even in a marvel movie, but unfortunately everyone forgets that movie exists.
The historical accuracy of the movie has been debated since it came out, but it's agreed that it's MOSTLY accurate. It IS true that early western movie stars were at his funeral, and Tom Mix was known to be a hard man who never showed emotion, so for him to cry was something special. This movie does such a great job of using old terms, ideas, and language and putting them into a movie that stands the test of time.
2 Marvel movies
William S. Hart was the other Western Actor mentioned as being at Wyatt's funeral. Hart was a legend in Western silent films, as famous as Chaplin and Mary Pickford, and of the most famous people in the US. Newhall CA north Los Angeles county is where a lot of his movies were filmed, and the town still hosts a yearly Cowboy Festival. He has a High School named after him too.
Doc was a Dentist, and yes, pretty much everyone feared him and his gun, even Ringo! Speaking of which one of the actors you missed Kyle Reese, John Connors father. The other "Mustache" Virgil, was Sam Elliot, and did in fact play a lot of these type roles thru out his career and so many more. Kurt Russell has made SO many good movies, you need to get caught up on. This movie had a ton of talented actors. Probably one of the best ever put together. Thanks so much for sharing. #2 in all the total polls..... Guess it's time for #1 huh?
The actor who played Kyle Reese in *Terminator* -- and Cpl. Hicks in *Aliens* , Commander Anderson (the leader of the Navy SEAL team that was shot up in the tub room) in *The Rock* , and Lang in episode 13 of the second season of *The Mandalorian* is Michael Biehn.
Fun fact: Doc was a terrible shot. He participated in several shooting tourneys and basically came in dead last in all of them. He was not the man portrayed in this movie.
Also Michael Rooker and a young Billy Bob Thornton. It's a shame the Wyatt Earp movie had to follow this one.
Sam Elliot is also in the Spinoff series for Yellowstone.1883? It's starts of really good but gets a bit repetitive after a bit. Yellowstone is a "present day" western. It is pretty good, but can be a little repetitive too. As in the same sort of formula every season. "A" happens which cause character "B" to do something which causes "Event "C" an on and on. But the woman that plays Kevin Costner's daughter steals the show for me.
I love the scene where Doc tells Wyatt why Ringo does what he does. In reality, Doc is talking about himself. He understands Ringo because they are very similar.
Yeah, that is why Doc says earlier in the movie when he is talking to Kate
"Yes, but there’s just something about him. Something around the eyes, I don’t know, reminds me of… me. No. I’m sure of it, I hate him."
Doc with the cup and his first confrontation with Ringo was so brilliant. Doc gauges ringos speed which hand and how he draws. That's why he was so confident the whole movie when everyone else was afraid of ringos reputation.
Also take into consideration that Ringo probably spent hours to perfect that spinning gun trick. Doc saw it ONCE and did it perfect with a cup. Everbody thinks that he is just messing around and laugh. But not Ringo, he knows that Doc is good and he don't think he can beat him.
“That’s Latin Darlin’. Evidently Mr. Ringo’s an educated man. Now I really hate him” Such an underrated line in this ICONIC movie.
Huh, Interesting
Interesting historical fact. Wyatt was the only one who wasn't actually shot at the O. K. Corral. Doc, Virgil, and the other brother were all wounded in that gunfight. On a side note, I met a descendant of Wyatt Earp. He was very proud. Wyatt Earp is my second most favorite historical figure.
“There’s no normal life Wyatt there’s just life. Now get on with it.” Val Kilmer stole the show in this movie. You should watch him in (1992) Thunderheart. I love it when you two sisters 🥰🥰 get together to react for us. ♥️
I also loved him in Real Genius, and Top Secret
totally agree on Thunderheart, overlooked gem that one
Thunderheart is a classic!!
Another vote for Thunderheart. Mr. Magoo says you should watch it.
Thundeheart is one of my most favorite movies ever, definitely should watch.
It's believed that the scene at the creek between Wyatt and Curly Bill happened almost exactly as depicted, which is astounding. As far as other westerns, The Magnificent Seven, and McClintock are both ones i think you'd enjoy.
It’s not, no. What actually happened is the Earp posse set up camp like 50 ft from the Cowboys. Wyatt wandered off to piss and stumbled upon the Cowboys who were camped out down in a ravine near the creek. Wyatt said in his book he and Curly Bill just locked eyes for a second before Wyatt quickly aimed his double barrel and cut Curly Bill in half.
The rest of the Earp posse quickly joined the fight. The cowboys were sitting ducks. There was never an ambush, just a lucky accident.
Afterwards, Wyatt had over a dozen bullet holes in his trench coat but was never hit
The Magnificent Seven with Yul Brynner and Steve McQueen.
@@GorramT This version works better for the film. I never expect 100% accuracy in films because the entertainment value is very important.. and in many cases more interesting
Agreed --- plus "Rio Bravo"
@@GorramTThank you for adding what is most likely the actual truth.
So many don't bother to study their history.
Val Kilmer should have won an Oscar for his performance as Doc Holiday. Iconic!
Have you seen the nominated roles for that year?
@@shiranuiaensland1442 That year was stacked. I think Val Kilmer should have at least been nominated but I don't know who I'd remove to give him a spot.
@@TBoNAtl And Val was not the only one snubbed that year for the same category.
minus the iconic part
The studio dumped Tombstone into theaters without a lot of publicity or screenings for movie critics. Roger Ebert noted that he would have lobbied hard for a Best Supporting Actor nomination for Val Kilmer if he had seen the movie earlier than he did. Everyone thought that the Kevin Costner film about Wyatt Earp was going to be the bigger and more important movie.
When Morgan told Wyatt, "Don't let 'em get you. You're the one," _The Matrix_ had not even been conceived of in the wildest of opium den fever dreams. Morgan simply meant that Wyatt was the big name among the Earp brothers, based on his reputation as a lawman, and that someone of his fame, standing for law and order, ought not be taken down by a criminal gang. Likewise, when Wyatt holds up one finger to his departing brother Virgil at the train station after shooting Stillwell, he's not referencing some Neo-like title Morgan conferred on him, but more likely signifying something like "One red sash down, many more to go." Either that, or just grimly saying goodbye to his brother.
Great reaction. Val Kilmer and Stephen Lang (Ike) were the two best roles to me. And watching you two not recognizing Kurt Russell was hilarious.
You just blew my mind. Stephen Lang from Avatar is Ike! Holllllyyy hell lol
@@TulkasMight Stephen Lang is such a great actor, and he doesn't seem to age either.
@@fixfalcon2628He’s also in Gettysburg (1993), Gods and Generals (2003), and Public Enemies (2009), you name it.
I can add that Slang is also a very nice person.
You should watch "Open Range" with Robert Duvall and Kevin Costner, it is highly underrated and based on your reactions to Tombstone I'm confident you will enjoy it.
Yes, Open Range is another great one...
Open Range is better than Tombstone.
I prefer Kevin Costner's Wyatt Earpe version better than Tombstone
@@tempsitch5632Open Range seems more realistic to me
@@cesarnarro6013It's also a Disney movie, just like Tombstone.
The cast in this movie was amazing. Val Kilmer was a power house and completely robbed by the Academy. The Doc / Wyatt scene at the end makes me cry every single time.
Fun take:
Doc is the Pale Horse, and Wyatt is the hell following after him.
This film has an amazing cast. Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer, Sam Elliot, Bill Paxton, Powers Boothe, Steven Lang, Jason Priestly, Charlton Heston, Terry OQuinn, Dana Delany, Billy Bob Thornton, Michael Biehn, all I can think of off memory.
I keep waiting for them to recognize Michael Rooker. Cassie saw him in Days of Thunder also, but I don't know if they have ever connected him to Yondu.
ANd this was Jason Priestly when he was an A-LISTER, fresh off Beverly Hills 90210
Billy Zane, John Corbett, Michael Rooker. All can think of as far bigger names. Great casting.
There are a lot of really good actors in this movie, but the best of the best was Charlton Heston who played the small role of Henry Hooker who had the ranch where Doc Holliday had to lay up while he recovered.
Heston played lead roles in the epic movies Ben-Hur, The Greatest Show On Earth, Planet Of The Apes, and as Moses in The Ten Commandments.
Also Sylvester Stallone's brother Frank is in the movie, as well as Harry Carey Jr who plays Marshall Fred White.
The movie is narrated by Robert Mitchum.
You forgot Billy Zane....who also played the title character in the Phantom and was also in Titanic and Michael Rooker who was the Cowboy who was disgusted with the killing of the priest early in the movie and later jumped sides from the Cowboys to Wyatt's side.
Val Kilmers Doc Holliday is as iconic as Heath Ledgers Joker imo. Watched Tombstone for the first time in full last year and really made me appreciate the performance.
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Your sister and you crack me up while reacting to iconic movies that I can't believe you both have not seen prior. Keep up the good work ladies.
i usually much more of a rom com girl but Tombstone is one of my favorite movies of all time. it’s just so well acted all across the board, especially Val Kilmer and Kurt Russell. i randomly still say when i can fit it in convo “I’ll be your Huckleberry” or “You’re no daisy at all.” LOL greta reaction!
For a somewhat quirky western you should watch “The Outlaw Josey Wales.” Released in 1976, it was produced and directed by, and starring Clint Eastwood. The cast includes the incomparable Chief Dan George as Lone Watie, who steals almost every scene he’s in. The movie makes a great effort to use props and costumes authentic to its time setting (mid 1860s); no Colt SSA revolvers and Winchester ‘73s, no Levi’s. Action sequences are very well done. The film also has a fairly sympathetic portrayal of Native Americans. You should watch it and “endeavor to persevere.”
"All I got is this piece of hard rock candy, but it ain't for eatin' it's for lookin' through."
It's not for eatin', it's for lookin' through!
@@BigTroyT my bad going from memory, haven't seen it in a while
Another amazing reaction from Cassie and Carly. This is my favorite western of all time. It's a travesty that Val Kilmer wasn't nominated for his role as Doc Holliday. "I'm your huckleberry " is one of the best lines in film history.
He was definitely "in is prime" in this one
I played as an extra in this movie. We didn't get paid, but they had catering on a daily basis and they fed us well. I even got to keep one of the movie props. I still have it in the attic somewhere.
Nice I think they pay the extra's now but they use to not do that even in 1993. But it's so cool. Was it a long day hot or cold? Did they film it in actual Tombstone?
Now that qualifies as a memory.
@@johnnyfive4436 i can't answer to his film experience, but yes, they did film in arizona, mostly in Mescal, where there is an 1800s ghost town that is upkept and commonly used for filming(you've seen most of the film's version of downtown tombstone in a bunch of other movies, just with a different coat of paint).
they may have filmed some shots in tombstone proper on the outskirts, but tombstone is still a functioning town and is basically a tourist trap town now, with historic downtown tombstone looking like Main Street in a wild west theme park. the OK corral still exists but is painted up and has a big OK corral sign, there are like 1930's era street lights smattered throughout downtown, pretty much the only part that's still mostly unchanged enough for filming would be the Boot Hill Cemetery(you can see it in the video at 12:21 as the earps enter town. "HERE LIES Lester Moore, four slugs from a .44, no Les no more" is a real headstone in the cemetery that belongs to a wells fargo clerk from the Naco, Arizona office. a man came in to collect a package and upon seeing the package was damaged became irate and shot Lester 4 times in the chest. Lester managed to return fire and killed his murderer before he fell to his wounds. Lester's grave is now one of the most wellknown headstones in America due to it's playful epitaph, whereas no one even knows where his killer is buried. take that, ya D*%kwad.)
neat place to visit, it's like an open-air wild west museum.
What a great experience!
I hate to admit it, but although I grew up in Northern Arizona, and loved history, I've never been to Tombstone. 😢
Johnny Cash also wrote a song that was inspired by this tombstone.
You two are so wholesome. I really love watching your reactions. Tombstone is a great movie
Many people believe that Val Kilmer deserved the Oscar that year for this role. The nominees for Best Supporting Actor in the 66th Academy Awards were:
Tommy Lee Jones as Samuel Gerard in "The Fugitive"
Ralph Fiennes as Amon Göth in "Schindler's List"
John Malkovich as Mitch Leary in "In the Line of Fire"
Leonardo DiCaprio as Arnie Grape in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape"
Pete Postlethwaite as Giuseppe Conlon in "In the Name of the Father"
Other snubs include Ben Kingsley as Itzhak Stern in "Schindler's List", Sean Penn as David Kleinfeld in "Carlito's Way", certain actors in "True Romance", etc...
Honestly, that's a really tough year to win that one. Sometimes it feels like someone was cheated, that is not one of those years.
Man that is a murderer’s row of performances. I would say Val should have been nominated ahead of Malkovich but when that was a really good performance.
@@JeffKelly03 true dat
That's one hell of a list though.
Makes you really wonder about Hollywood now and the crap they put out
One of the greatest western ever made, Doc was a dentist, also when he looks down at his feet, and says “I’ll be damned” a gun slinger was supposed to die with his boots on. When Doc and Ringo was having there Latin conversation. It’s loosely translated as Doc “ when I drink I speak truth” Ringo “do what you do best” Doc “drinking is not what I do best” Ringo “fools must learn hard” Doc “well Rest In Peace”. I’m your Huckleberry was a popular saying in those days, it just meant I’m the guy. So many quotable lines in this movie, and just like everyone else has said, Val should’ve won an Oscar for his portrayal of Doc Holliday.
A lot of liberties were taken with this movie, but damn it’s a great movie. Also it’s like a lot of Clint Eastwood’s western, when the line between good and bad is blurry. Which is the way the real west was, from most accounts. To go heels means, to carry a gun.
I never knew what was being said between Doc, and Ringo.
@@mikeylikey386 I don’t speak Latin, but was reading what someone translated, and that’s the way I remember it.
One of my favorite films and Val Kilmer's best performance in a movie.
The opening is definitely my favorite scene in this movie. There's no beating around the bush. This movie gets right to the point of who the good guys are and who the bad guys are.
A couple Kevin Costner westerns to add to the list: Silverado for a young Kevin, and Open Range for an older Kevin. Both great in my opinion.
Yes, for Open Range. I will check out Silverado.
Open range is prob the best modern western
The only downside to Open Range is that it isn't 14 hours long just following the four men grazing their cattle before the events of the film.
@@M4EOzzy extended cut or riot!
I agree, both very good. Though I think the girls would appreciate Silverado more than Open Range.
This wasn't just a great western... it was a great movie. Stacked cast turning out great performances all around. Glad you both enjoyed it so much.
25:54 when Doc twirls his guns he twirls them in opposite directions. Not an easy feat. Dude's attention to detail is incredible. Underappreciated actor. A shame his career went dry after Heat.
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The scene @14:45 the actor playing the dirty card dealer is Billy Bob Thornton. FYI: Wyatt lived until the age of 80, Morgan was 30 when he was killed at the Billiard Parlor, Virgil died at 62 due to poor health and Pneumonia, Doc Holiday died at the age of 36 from tuberculosis.
Part of the real story is the rumor that the brothers went from officers of the law to actually being pimps (Ike called Virgil a pimp in the bar, for example). That's also where the brothers would have gotten their "wives" in this telling of the story. They're common-law married. So, there was no need for divorce in the west with Maddie's drug problem - you see that all over the movie, the opium problem - Curly Bill, Maddie. Also, the picture Josephine was having taken right outside the OK Corral is depicting a famous real picture of her. For a change of pace, but still western, Quigley Down Under might be a good one.
Not true. Virgil went to his parents house in Colton, California. Both the dad and Virgil where in the city government. Virgil protected passengers as they came off the train there and went to the old hotel (train doesn't stop there anymore and the hotel is gone). He helped keep the hotel safe for guests and it was a respected place. Colton was a dry town and no gambling. But I did hear stories about San Bernardino having a red light district that may have attracted the Earps for fun evenings and card games. Virgil is buried in Colton. I was a resident of Colton for many, many years. The little city museum has about a third of it dedicated to the Earps. Decedent's live in the surrounding area and have special Earp days.
Morgan married Lou who was anything but a prostitute, and Virgil's wife Allie was a hotel waitress when they met. Mattie was the only one that was a prostitute.
Quigley Down under is a Great Movie.
@@RedlandsRedhead927 I'm glad to hear that. I think, in fact, the sources that were used in writing the screenplay for Tombstone were discussed in some "making of" show I watched. Seems I recall them saying it's "not clear" that they were pimps, but that's the story they decided to hint at in the movie because it's in the lore, whether verified or not. Glad it wasn't made really a central part of the telling. Glad to hear some clarification.
Also, kinda think Jason Priestly was originally hired to be Marshal Fred White who was a young man in real life at that time. When they changed direction, they kept him on (?). I think that's right. He'd have made a great Marshal White, adding pathos to his death at Curly Bill's hands. But it's hard to improve this nearly perfect film.
Tombstone is up there as one of my favorite movies of all time. The amount of future A-Listers hidden throughout that movie is incredible. And you mentioning True Lies during the intro. Yall in for a treat, both are fantastic. True Lies really put Arnold on a new level, of not just being "an action guy" and instead an actual actor. He's fantastic in it.
Edit ; Another really good western that has a lighter motif than Tombstone but is up there is Silverado. With Kevin Kline and Danny Glover
Yes! Silverado! Great recommendation! Love that movie! Plus it has Kevin Costner who they love!
Yes, True Lies is a great one, and Silverado is such a great western.
What people fail to realize was that when Jonny Ringo was twirling his gun, Doc Holiday was studying his drawing & handling techniques.
Yup, that's why Johnny wasn't laughing when everyone else was after. A drunk, sick, and tired Doc perfectly imitated his routine perfectly in one take after seeing it only once.
Johnny Ringo figured out he picked a fight with a heavyweight early on. It's why he keeps trying to avoid him after.
@@angrydre7644 it's like walking down the street and you bump into someone and you start running your mouth "watch where you're going" etc. and you turn around to see Mike Tyson
Heels: being armed, standing back on one's heels.
Daisy: the toughest flower., outlasts all others.
Lunger: Tuberculosis victim
Beahan: was the useless County Sheriff, while the Earp's were the Town Marshals.
The actress was making porn photographs ( what was considered that in those days) next to the O. K. corral.
And Lady's, you need to work on your Sam Elliot films: Big Lebowski was more of a cameo.
The laugh when Doc/Val winked at the Cowboys was worth the "like" all in itself. : )
The reactions are superb but are even better when its the two of you.
The Cowboys with John Wayne is an amazing movie. Open Range with Costner and Duval an instant classic. The list goes on and on and on.
I totally agree
Both terrific!
Also Broken Trail is a great story great movie
I agree, I am a huge fan of Open Range.
open range is a criminally underrated movie
This is easily one of my favourite films of all time. Top notch writing, superb cast, kick-ass score. Kurt Russell was born to play that role and Val Kilmer deserved an Oscar for his scene-stealing performance.
One of the most famous gun fights in the West was "The Gun Fight at The OK Corral" in Tombstone, Arizona.
You're a daisy if you do is also one of Val Kilmers great lines in this movie ...and when he tells Wyatt at the end that he was the only person who ever gave him hope 😢 every time that tear rolls down his face it gets me
"Live, Wyatt. Live for me." 😭😭😭😭😭
Me too
I'm your huckleberry;
The line "This is funny" was Doc's last words. He always expected to die in a gunfight with his boots on. Dying in hospital without his boots on funny to him.
Yes, it is a true story. Including the part when Wyatt walked across the river in the middle of the crossfire and no bullets hit him. That incident was backed by his men that were with him at the time, all of whom were also in shock and surprised he wasn't hit.
Amazing movie!
the one moment that seems like it would be all hollywood ends up being the most true moment in the entire movie. They say not a single bullet actually hit him until afterwards the duster he was wearing had bullet holes, so quite a few shots did come close.
@@Shiirow There was also a bullet lodged in the heel of his boot
@@davidnowhere2637 Holes in his duster and the horn shot off his saddle; other than that, and the boot heel, unscathed.
@@desperateambrose5373 I read about bullet holes in his duster and saddle bag and one in the heel of his boot.But I don't know ,one thing will say this another will say that
Not all of it is true. There is no evidence that Doc Holliday killed Johnny Ringo. Fred White died the next day, and Curly Bill did express regret for accidentally shooting White.
Doc Holiday's "I don't" line gets me every time.
The actor who played Ike Clanton is Stephen Lang, who played both General George Pickett and General Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson in _Gettysburg_ and _Gods And Generals_ respectively. He also played the blind man in _Don't Breathe._
And the senior military commander in Avatar also. Underrated actor, so good. Oh that's right he was in Don't Breathe!
One thing about this film that I love, despite being wrong, is the characters' ages. At the time of the real events, Virgil Earp was 38, Wyatt Earp was 33, and Doc Holliday was 30. By casting actors who were 10-15 years older than their characters it really emphasizes how quickly people grew old and how tough life was.
While watching I was thinking about an older classic western I think you'd like. Rio Bravo with John Wayne, Dean Martin, Ricky Nelson and Angie Dickinson. Pretty simple plot but absolutely iconic acting and scenes. Just the kind of charming that I think you'd love.
I really love how you two react to movies. Johnny was the guy in terminator, Kyle. He was also in the Rock, the leader of the SEAL team. Doc Holiday was a dentist.
He was also Corporal Hicks in Aliens
Michael Biehn was Johnny Ringo but he was in The Rock and was Kyle Reese in The Terminator in 1984. Michael Biehn was in Navy Seals in 1990 and Corporal Hicks in Aliens in 1986.
He was also the crazy navy seal gone rogue in The Abyss...
You must be the only 2 people in America who have never heard of the 1881 gunfight at the OK Corral with these very famous people in Tombstone Arizona. Everybody in America knows who Wyatt Earp was. Doc was a dentist from Georgia.
This is such an iconic movie that almost never was. Directors were hired and fired, infighting with producers and cast members. There was supposed to be much more scenes with the cowboys. In the end it's rumored that Kurt Russell was able to bring everyone together to get a finished movie together, and alot of the actors credit Kurt Russell as the director. "Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave." One of the coolest lines ever. Great reaction, thank you.
I think I could LITERALLY quote this whole movie from start to finish. So cool to you PIB react to it !
Why Jonny you look like someone just walked over your grave
It was a true story. The gunfight at the OK Coral actually happened in Tombstone Arizona. Throughout much of his later years, Wyatt Earp regretted his tainted reputation in some social spheres as being a heavy-handed lawman. He was bitter about that, and the life full of adversity which he lived.
I’ve actually been to tombstone I’ve been in that birdcage theater. It’s amazing went to the boot hill there as well saw the graves of all the guys killed in the OK corral, including Fred White, that marshal that got killed by Curly Bill. And, like one of your other viewers, said Val Kilmer should have gotten the Oscar for that performance. And Johnny Ringo was found dead at the base of a tree, and they all speculated that doc killed him
One of my favorite movies ever made. Also, the best performance Val Kilmer ever gave. He should have gotten an Oscar for it.
The movie gets extra credit for the narration by Robert Mitchum and the appearance of Charlton Heston. The cameo appearance of Frank Stallone in the early scene with Doc was bonus. At first I thought it was his brother Sly Stallone. I saw an interview with Michael Biehn where he said the good guys and the cowboys were intentionally kept from socializing off screen. This was done to keep the tension or rivalry between the actors.
One of my favorite movies! Glad y'all enjoyed it!
It is my favorite.
They made a movie about Wyatt in Hollywood called Sunset. James Garner played Wyatt, Bruce Willis was Tom Mix. It's a nice followup to this.
My family had a frightening medical emergency this week, so I really needed one of my favorite reaction channels with one of my favorite movies. Thank you so much! I love how Cassie recognized the name "OK Corral" as a nail polish.😂
When I figured out this movie was based on true events, I did some research on who those characters were and this movie fascinates me in learning about the events of Tombstone, Arizona.
One of my favorites. IMO, one of the best movies ever. Val Kilmer's performance was one of the best ever.
i saw this when i was in 7th grade back in 2010 in my film class. its on my top 100 favorite films of all time. i recently started collecting vhs tapes because i found my old vcr and this was the first i watched! i quote from this movie all the time, especially quoting Doc. so glad you reacted to this! ❤
I love when sister joins! Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the reactions that you do by yourself. It's just that I enjoy watching movies with my brothers so it makes it more fun when I see you two together ❤
This is still a very good movie after 30 years
OMG!!!! It doesn’t even seem like this movie is that old!!!! And I saw it when it first came out😂
I'm shocked every time I think how old this movie is now
It's actually even better now since most films made now are sh*t.
@@sca88 You can say that again!!
Classic from the 90s. Val Kilmer's best performance. Kurt Russel deserves director credit because he carried the film when they lost their director and the new one didn't have time to develop a vision for it. One of my favorites.
Doc Holiday was formerly a Dentist, he had a pension for gambling, I believe that this movie had such an iconic cast, and will always be one of my favorites
12:18 “I don't like dust. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.”
- Cassie
I'm so happy. My favorite reactors reacting to my favorite movie with my favorite character. Glad you finally got to see Val Kilmer's best performance. So many great quotable lines in this movie.
Happy I met him a few years ago. Sadly he wasn't talking of course. But he signed a great print of Doc.
Kilmer was fantastic in this one to be sure. But imo his best performance was In The Doors. He actually sang the songs as well.
@@orarinnsnorrason4614 He WAS Jim Morrison in that movie, very true.
One of the last great Westerns ever made. It's also one of the most underrated Westerns ever made.
People think of it as a mindless action film unlike Unforgiven. But the acting and the screenplay for Tombstone is top notch.
Grew up on the Sandretto Ranch in Prescott Az. I remember visiting Old tombstone in 1961.
Tom Mix Monument is just south of Florence Arizona. He was friends with another one that attended Wyatt's funeral. That would have been Hoot Gibson who was also our neighbor.
Although Tombstone was more popular because of it's silver deposits and smuggling it was Jerome Arizona that was consider the most dangerous place in the country.