More like "with just one attempt at raping a 14 y.o. disguised as your wife" (I can't be the only one who noticed that his body changed from blob to buff during the incident)
Gyro was empowered by the presence of his father. Valentine was empowered by the absence of his father. Johnny was harmed by the presence of his father. And oh right, Diego was harmed by the absence of his father (not that that guy probably would have done much good by being present). It's the full set!
It is. In my opinion. Johnny wanted to undo the snarky childish ego he had that separated him from his father, as well as causing his own brother's death. Hot pants wanted to be forgiven for being the sole cause of her own brother's death. Hell, even someone like axl ro wanted to be free from his sins against humanity when he let an entire town be killed so he could survive. Redemption is very much a big theme. Despite this video. However, issues with fathers is something every jojo has experience. Except for josuke8 with the new idea sith motherly issues. Even though George joestar believed his son in the end, he still lashed out at him for being not as good as dio.
@@snomwommy9713 more people/mangatubers need to analize steel ball run more. I feel like people overlook steel ball run too much, ive only seen few analysis on steel ball runs themes meanwhile other mangas on the same level like vagabond and berserk get many analysis video or threads.
Funny Valentine's greatest failing is his belief in a single, great man being able to save the world, or at least, *his* world. His father gave his life for his country, and saved his entire regiment. Valentine takes this idea of saving America through his, and only his, actions to the extreme. He ignores the damage that would be done both to the US by having no misfortune, the moral degradation, lack of growth and eventual arrogance that would fester under the surface, and what would happen to every other nation on Earth. Valentine fundamentally cannot understand that his actions, the actions of *1 good man* , will not save the world. He is unable to see that, once he is dead, he will not be able to prop up America through his own morality. Valentine's own arrogance is one unrecognised, even by himself. He claims to be selfless, yet refuses to ever truly die or give up. He believes that only his vision is the correct one. He believes that he can save the world, the way he believes his father did. But he can't, because his father never saved the world, his father was never a selfless paragon. His father was human - which is what Valentine is ultimately afraid of, being wrong, being imperfect, and being *human* .
Tornike Tvalchrelidze it is that deep its ok if you do not understand anything about the character besides what you see from a surface level then thats fine just refrain from making these passive aggressive remarks..k?
I think my only criticism is that you say it lacks a central theme, but the whole story is about self-actualization/motivation. Gyro doesn't help Johnny until he rides the horse for himself, and even when he's supposed to be teaching, he's really tricking Johnny into figuring things out for himself. Valentine's napkin speech is also a pretty explicit endorsement of this, along with Lucy's first foray into espionage (I guess Tim helps her out of that one, but I feel like her initiative counts). Also, apparently Hey Ya doesn't actually do anything, it just puts Poco Loco in the right state of mind to go big or go home, meaning that everything he did was his own ability. Also, if you want even more layers to Valentine's fatherless upbringing, you could point out that in passing on D4C and his memories to alternate Valentines, he becomes his own father.
While Johnny's father believed that God took the wrong son, God Himself through the Holy Corpse *chooses* Johnny, recognizing his worth and potential and giving him a Stand. Like a father, He hasn't determined Johnny's path, but has given him the ability to grow and evolve into a path of his own (Tusk's ACTs). Then, after Johnny defeats Valentine, a monolith built by artificial fatherhood, George appears at the end of the race, finally accepting him as a real father should. Johnny's reward for exhibiting the true value of a real father's influence. And that's reason #386 why Steel Ball Run is the best manga of all time Also in Part 8 we see that Johnny himself becomes the very embodiment of this sacred fatherhood, risking and ultimately sacrificing everything for his son (cough like a certain saint cough), in a bittersweet epilogue to his journey in SBR.
I find Johnny uncomfortably relatable. I really do wonder about the end where his father shows up at the finish line seemingly accepting of Johnny (or at least this accomplishment). It's sweet at the moment in Johnny's eyes, but I only imagine that it fucks with his head even more. Part 8 spoilers: Johnny sounds like a good husband and father, even though he does some misguided things for his wife's wellbeing that backfires onto his son. His sacrifice to cure his son kind of gives a bittersweet conclusion to his character arc since for all his selfish tendencies, Johnny's greatest strength and weakness was his ability to take responsibility for his failures and mistakes.
Looking at this back the words of Funny and George have a high magnitude of emotion.. "I searched in endless dimensions, i never found my dad alive" "God took the wrong son" Such a contrast and emotion behind these phrases. The ironical thing is that the first one was said by the villain and the second by the protagonist's dad..
Diego also has daddy issues too, if I recall correctly. His father abandoned him and thus led him to become so pessimistic about everything. I don't have enough evidence off the top of my head because they might be wrong.
The way I see it Steel Ball Run has a more heavy emphasis on growth and overcoming ones self to be a better person. Your video helped me understand a different way of looking at the character's history due to each of their upbringing (or lack thereof) which shaped them into who they where at the start of the story. One more thing I would've liked to see would be Diego's childhood and how it made him the ruthless yet more tragic antagonist he became in the race, thanks again for the insight!
I always had a hard time loving SBR as it was ruined for me by the annoying fanbase spamming and boasting here and there how good/flawless and perfect SBR is and hating on Part 6 and other parts. I've came about your video with a skeptic approach which wore off instantly by how amazingly grounded and genuine your vid is. No overexaggeration or unbacked praise a good and direct video. You kinda made me love SBR a bit more again just like when I finished it. To further on continue and your Video and extend on it; I really think Araki couldn't totally dwelve into Fatherhood's Theme as Shonen was restraining him to keep it focused around the main character but later on as he choses to drifts away from the Shonen Standards (From Part 6 on forth). He started to dig out more about this relationship, a prototype of it is the Jotaro & Jolyne one especially as it is a prequel of the 3 Examples you have stated in your video (with this one being the absent Father Figure). She repelled her father and everything related to him but as she witnessed him being "killed" by Pucci she started using this same "Absent Father Figure" as a purpose for her own growth only to be relucantly saved by him and thus gained final growth being backed now by Jotaro. I really think Araki would have loved to dwelve more on these relationship for example for Giorno & Dio or more other characters as stated by him about Avdol : "If I had made a story centered around Avdol, I probably would have explored his relationship with his father, his upbringing, and his family. I'm pretty sure it'd become a mature story that wouldn't really fit in Shonen Jump." -Hirohiko Araki JoJonium Volume 13
If that's the case, I wish Araki would write about Avdol's story rather than (many) Rohan's spin-offs (not that I dislike those, but I really want some background story of some underrated characters like Avdol, etc).
In Part 7 Gyro acts as a fatherly figure that Johnny never had by teaching him the ways of the world in a tough love kind of way while in Part 5 Bruno acted as a motherly figure to Giorno by giving him unconditional love that Giorno never received from his mother
-God took the wrong son -Johnny thinks the death of his brother was his fault -He gets desabled and can't do what he loved -Then veryone left him -Shoots himself ...Johnny is the most depressing Jojo...
Wait. I just realised something. Is the fat Valentine at the start of the part Valentine from a different universe, and by the time we meet him at the end as the major villain, it's a completely different Valentine and that's why he's skinny now. That has played on my mind for years
no bun intended Because the valentines from different universes don't share the same consciousness. They're not a hive mind. They're all independent people, it's just that they're all valentine. I'm sure fat valentine doesn't want to die just so a buffer version of him can take over
@@doomgu544 none of the valentines want to die but its possible that fat Valentine died and passed on the heart and d4c to another him and that's the one we see later on
@@doomgu544 Well but that can't be true either, since every new Valentine that appears back in the base world after the Valentine before was injured knows exactly what's up. Would be weird otherwise. So technically he could pull that off.
Well I'm still finishing Steel Ball Run, but I think one of its main themes is selfishness. Or lack thereof. It's kind of the force that sets everything in motion. I love Johnny, so I base a lot of my interpretations on his way of acting, but SBR shows a lot of other characters that find the strength to fight because of a profoundly selfish wish. And sometime that isn't a bad thing. A lot of fans say Johnny was the "villain" because Valentine wanted to help his country but, as you already partially hinted in this video, his goal isn't just. He deliberately decided that killing a few people to achieve it was a sacrifice that had to be made (but *his* life was never on the line). Plus he wanted to direct the bad things to the rest of the world, because it didn't matter as long as it wasn't *his* country). And I also find it ironic that Johnny, who spent the whole part stressing how he only cared about regaining the ability to walk, was the one who made some of the most genuinely selfless actions, like giving all the Holy Corpse parts he had for a half bottle of wine to save Gyro (I'm still emotional about that) or refusing to negotiate with Valentine even if that could mean he could see Gyro again (assuming he was saying the truth). And well of course Gyro is the clearest example of selflessness.
You could do a whole video about how Lucy Steel is perpetually controlled by men and father figures, from Mountain Tim to Valentine to her own dad to Jesus!
when your father wishes you dead and you end up killing the president of the US, searching the mummy of Jesus and fighting dinosaurs using magical powers
SBR is a mixture of different parts and I love how it focuses on other characters plus the main protagonist. I also love how it shows Gyro as the main focus than slowly switches to Johnny.
I personally think its more about family in general. Essentially all of the main characters had something happen or done related to their family that gives them the reasons for what they are doing. This even goes as far in many of the more popular side characters.
This is actually such a good theme especially when you realize the 4th example of Jesus being in the story and God being the one true “Father” and johnnys final words being that we should pray it shows importance of the relationship we have with our own fathers and with god this manga is beautiful
I get why it’s important that Johnny’s father appeared in the end of the Steel Ball Run but I can’t forgive him, and I still don’t know how Johnny repaired his relationship with his father (which never was good to begin with) to the point of naming his son after him instead of his brother or even Gyro
Very good video, made me remind of the definition of parental messages of humanistic psychology, the resources that our parents give to us in order to confront our lives, either possitive o negative. P.D.: I also think that the themes on steel ball run are the best ones of the series.
I like to think that during Steel Ball Run, Gyro assumed the role of fatherhood with Johnny, as he always remembers his own father's lessons while he looks Johnny growing. At the end, Gyro went to America to save random boy's life, and that's actually what happens with Johnny
Incredible analysis, you could find what I never couldn't, what was lacking in Valentine's actions that lead to his defeat. I just didn't understand completely the end of the video, "humanity wins at the cost of everyone's misery". Someone get it?
Y know, when you look back, Gyro was also the father Johnny never really had. He taught him things, while also learning from johnny, he cared and respected him, cared for him, practically was pretty much a dad we never really knew
You forgot about Diego, whose hatred for his father was the greatest fuel for his success in life and it, alongside the way his mother died, fully dictated how he saw the world and its people
Fatherhood is really important for humankind, it shapes a person, not in its own picture but to be anyone that she/he wants to be, to be ready to face the challenges coming towards her/him. Even if they aren't present you can still feel them within you providing guidance and reassurance .Cherish the time you spend with them, at least try to make them happy cause they have done that. At the end only memories remains...
I think this is one of the first videos I've seen that actually explains Valentine's character together with the blatant failures he commits (as in, the way he imposes his views) and how that lead to his demise. He's an amazing character but will never be like a true "hero", like many like to claim.
*Spoilers well duh* Honestly looking back on it, all of steel ball run is just one big philosophy textbook. Like every character is just one big philosophy quandary. Also really liked how you remembered that damn test Johnny gave Valantine. I feel like so many people forgot about that part. Who knows maybe it's just memes and shitposts but I hate when people say Johnny is selfish and Valantine is a good person. The Johnny being selfish thing really gets my goat because we see in the sugar mountain ark that Johnny is willing to give up the corps parts (and any prospects of walking again) to save Gyro. That test was there to prove if Valantine actually meant what he said about doing what he did for the greater good, but the gun proves that Valantine is just full of hot air and would most likely just abuse the power for personal gain. While I'm at it, it ties back to the sugar mountain ark where Johnny gave up his legs for Gyro, and then has to give up on ever seeing Gyro again to protect the world from Valantine's BS. Sooo yeah Steel Ball Run is complicated and beautiful.
Second best story about fatherhood I’ve seen. First is Clannad by a landslide, but I feel like comparing anything to one of Clannad’s major themes is just unfair
You're going so deep into the psychology of one of the most twisted villains and explaining why he became the feared figure he is, and I'm siting there laughing at a picture of Trump holding baby Valentine.
All the journey they go through with this theme makes that scene in high voltage with johnny's father acknowledging his mistakes, giving johnny the last push he needed, one of the most heartfelt scenes in the manga
In my opinion JoJos part 7 has a very nihilistic tone that differs allot from the previous parts. It's one of my favorite parts because I really was not expecting JoJos to take that route.
I'm glad you touched on Johnny and Gyro, I hear endless praise for SBR, but 99% of the time all I hear is how awesome the villain Funny Valentine is. And the memes.
You won me over in the first 5 seconds
Osvaldo Langhaus Damn straight he is.
@@DecimusYna he is what?
dont ask me about my profile picture ;)
I came here as soon as I heard those sweet magic words.
@DecimusYna literally who cares anime pfp
"God took the wrong son"
God, that quote just hits the feels
Bc he did
well you'll be surprised near the ending
@@kraddle2360 I read Part 7
God never took joshu and I cry everyday
I'm a "Special" Boy bruh moment
Valentine's father taught him the ancient secret of how to *DOCTORS HATE HIM* Lose belly fat and replace it with muscle in just *ONE MONTH*
and this is why they want the new rokakaka
More like "IN JUST ONE DEATH"
take the first napkin
More like "with just one attempt at raping a 14 y.o. disguised as your wife" (I can't be the only one who noticed that his body changed from blob to buff during the incident)
FlymanMS To be fair, he didn’t know it was Lucy.
He thought it was life. Although he was sus, it’s not he though It’d be **a 14 year old.**
Don't forget poor Diego, whose father didn't even want a world with him
Wanted to originally also talk about Diego, but the video woulda been too long then :(
@@Oceaniz Yeah I guess so, and it doesn't really need explaining
want*
@@astrograph7875 Nervermind I'll edit that
A WORLD....no pun intended
Gyro was empowered by the presence of his father.
Valentine was empowered by the absence of his father.
Johnny was harmed by the presence of his father.
And oh right, Diego was harmed by the absence of his father (not that that guy probably would have done much good by being present).
It's the full set!
JoJo bizarre adventure Dad issue occurrence.
Jojo part 7 : Daddy issue
*Imagine voting for a guy named Funny Valentine*
@Dennis Jackson imagine your president getting killed by a 3 foreign terrorists and a United States traitor
Imagine voting for a guy with USA flag as scars in his back?
Imagine being that classmate who laughed at him for having a weird name only to become their future president
@@severketorskeleton3759 imagine not voting for a guy who had an American flag tortured into his back
Imagine your president getting killed indefinetly because his spooky ghost keep changing universe Everytime he dies
Steel ball run gotta be taught in schools
*universities
You'll see the infinite spin used in pranks in university campuses
@@RenegadeStriker7 College students riding on horseback shooting each other with the Super Spin
Shakespeare aint got nothing on SBR LOL
But someone starting from part 7 makes them a part skipper, as if schools are not bad enough.
Honestly, the part near the end where George cheered on Johnny made me break down into tears.
Yeet
i thought it was someone valentine brought in at first so I was too tense to cry cos I thought johnny would die
Same
Same bruh I legit wanted to cry
You could totally do a "role of motherhood in JoJolion" video lol. Joshu and Kaato, Yasuho and her mom, Gappy and Holly, Tsurugi and Mitsuba.
Part 9 will focus on uncles
Jobin & Caato* not Joshuu. Well Joshuu too but more so Jobin
@@kris3209 with touching character moments
@@nkhdennis8980 oh no
yeah, but it's better to wait jojolion to end to be sure of it.
This should’ve been uploaded on Father’s Day
11 days off
Redemption is personally one that I see as the overarching theme as I love how it's portrayed in part 7
It is. In my opinion. Johnny wanted to undo the snarky childish ego he had that separated him from his father, as well as causing his own brother's death. Hot pants wanted to be forgiven for being the sole cause of her own brother's death. Hell, even someone like axl ro wanted to be free from his sins against humanity when he let an entire town be killed so he could survive. Redemption is very much a big theme. Despite this video. However, issues with fathers is something every jojo has experience. Except for josuke8 with the new idea sith motherly issues. Even though George joestar believed his son in the end, he still lashed out at him for being not as good as dio.
Red Dead Redemption......
@@snomwommy9713 more people/mangatubers need to analize steel ball run more. I feel like people overlook steel ball run too much, ive only seen few analysis on steel ball runs themes meanwhile other mangas on the same level like vagabond and berserk get many analysis video or threads.
Funny Valentine's greatest failing is his belief in a single, great man being able to save the world, or at least, *his* world. His father gave his life for his country, and saved his entire regiment. Valentine takes this idea of saving America through his, and only his, actions to the extreme. He ignores the damage that would be done both to the US by having no misfortune, the moral degradation, lack of growth and eventual arrogance that would fester under the surface, and what would happen to every other nation on Earth.
Valentine fundamentally cannot understand that his actions, the actions of *1 good man* , will not save the world. He is unable to see that, once he is dead, he will not be able to prop up America through his own morality.
Valentine's own arrogance is one unrecognised, even by himself. He claims to be selfless, yet refuses to ever truly die or give up. He believes that only his vision is the correct one. He believes that he can save the world, the way he believes his father did. But he can't, because his father never saved the world, his father was never a selfless paragon. His father was human - which is what Valentine is ultimately afraid of, being wrong, being imperfect, and being *human* .
Tornike Tvalchrelidze yes it is.
Tornike Tvalchrelidze this was a brilliant analysis and should be applauded.
Tornike Tvalchrelidze it is that deep its ok if you do not understand anything about the character besides what you see from a surface level then thats fine just refrain from making these passive aggressive remarks..k?
@Tornike Tvalchrelidze lol if you don't think jojo is deep you're in the wrong channel
Tornike Tvalchrelidze nice incorrect usage of the word ironic no less typical then a dumbass
I think my only criticism is that you say it lacks a central theme, but the whole story is about self-actualization/motivation. Gyro doesn't help Johnny until he rides the horse for himself, and even when he's supposed to be teaching, he's really tricking Johnny into figuring things out for himself. Valentine's napkin speech is also a pretty explicit endorsement of this, along with Lucy's first foray into espionage (I guess Tim helps her out of that one, but I feel like her initiative counts). Also, apparently Hey Ya doesn't actually do anything, it just puts Poco Loco in the right state of mind to go big or go home, meaning that everything he did was his own ability.
Also, if you want even more layers to Valentine's fatherless upbringing, you could point out that in passing on D4C and his memories to alternate Valentines, he becomes his own father.
Yeah everyone seems to forget about the GOATed Pocoloco
that d4c connection is incredible i never even thought of that
While Johnny's father believed that God took the wrong son, God Himself through the Holy Corpse *chooses* Johnny, recognizing his worth and potential and giving him a Stand. Like a father, He hasn't determined Johnny's path, but has given him the ability to grow and evolve into a path of his own (Tusk's ACTs). Then, after Johnny defeats Valentine, a monolith built by artificial fatherhood, George appears at the end of the race, finally accepting him as a real father should. Johnny's reward for exhibiting the true value of a real father's influence.
And that's reason #386 why Steel Ball Run is the best manga of all time
Also in Part 8 we see that Johnny himself becomes the very embodiment of this sacred fatherhood, risking and ultimately sacrificing everything for his son (cough like a certain saint cough), in a bittersweet epilogue to his journey in SBR.
Bro they did Johnny dirty in part 8 even diego died he still faced same fateful death like Johnathan 😭
Ah, so Papa Zeppeli is one of THOSE parents, the "I'm not mad, just disappointed" type
He is indeed. Hes a perfectionist
daddy issues
Same
imagine this being the part's title
More daddy issues than Shinji
AltNara
Dad shoes
Jolyne
I find Johnny uncomfortably relatable. I really do wonder about the end where his father shows up at the finish line seemingly accepting of Johnny (or at least this accomplishment). It's sweet at the moment in Johnny's eyes, but I only imagine that it fucks with his head even more.
Part 8 spoilers: Johnny sounds like a good husband and father, even though he does some misguided things for his wife's wellbeing that backfires onto his son. His sacrifice to cure his son kind of gives a bittersweet conclusion to his character arc since for all his selfish tendencies, Johnny's greatest strength and weakness was his ability to take responsibility for his failures and mistakes.
Steal Ball Run?
Don’t you mean
Metal Sphere Sprint
Ferrous Orb Dash
Ferro Pilla Detegere ?
Titanium Rondure Rush
Hard Round Dash
Mineral Marble marathon?
When George showed up with the boots and broke down in front of Johnny I got teary eyed
Looking at this back the words of Funny and George have a high magnitude of emotion..
"I searched in endless dimensions, i never found my dad alive"
"God took the wrong son"
Such a contrast and emotion behind these phrases. The ironical thing is that the first one was said by the villain and the second by the protagonist's dad..
Diego also has daddy issues too, if I recall correctly. His father abandoned him and thus led him to become so pessimistic about everything. I don't have enough evidence off the top of my head because they might be wrong.
"ENABLED and empowered by their father" then theres johny lmao
The way I see it Steel Ball Run has a more heavy emphasis on growth and overcoming ones self to be a better person. Your video helped me understand a different way of looking at the character's history due to each of their upbringing (or lack thereof) which shaped them into who they where at the start of the story. One more thing I would've liked to see would be Diego's childhood and how it made him the ruthless yet more tragic antagonist he became in the race, thanks again for the insight!
I always had a hard time loving SBR as it was ruined for me by the annoying fanbase spamming and boasting here and there how good/flawless and perfect SBR is and hating on Part 6 and other parts. I've came about your video with a skeptic approach which wore off instantly by how amazingly grounded and genuine your vid is. No overexaggeration or unbacked praise a good and direct video.
You kinda made me love SBR a bit more again just like when I finished it. To further on continue and your Video and extend on it; I really think Araki couldn't totally dwelve into Fatherhood's Theme as Shonen was restraining him to keep it focused around the main character but later on as he choses to drifts away from the Shonen Standards (From Part 6 on forth).
He started to dig out more about this relationship, a prototype of it is the Jotaro & Jolyne one especially as it is a prequel of the 3 Examples you have stated in your video (with this one being the absent Father Figure). She repelled her father and everything related to him but as she witnessed him being "killed" by Pucci she started using this same "Absent Father Figure" as a purpose for her own growth only to be relucantly saved by him and thus gained final growth being backed now by Jotaro.
I really think Araki would have loved to dwelve more on these relationship for example for Giorno & Dio or more other characters as stated by him about Avdol :
"If I had made a story centered around Avdol, I probably would have explored his relationship with his father, his upbringing, and his family. I'm pretty sure it'd become a mature story that wouldn't really fit in Shonen Jump." -Hirohiko Araki JoJonium Volume 13
That prasing of sbr you talked about is exactly what i felt
Part 7 fans are pretty shitty tbqh
If that's the case, I wish Araki would write about Avdol's story rather than (many) Rohan's spin-offs (not that I dislike those, but I really want some background story of some underrated characters like Avdol, etc).
Part 7 onward is published on Ultra Jump?
@@werh227 Yep, JoJolion (Part 8) too
Diego also became who he was because the whole world including his father threw his mother and him away.
In Part 7 Gyro acts as a fatherly figure that Johnny never had by teaching him the ways of the world in a tough love kind of way while in Part 5 Bruno acted as a motherly figure to Giorno by giving him unconditional love that Giorno never received from his mother
The themes I found in SBR are:
Growth, Fatherhood, Redemption and Faith
-God took the wrong son
-Johnny thinks the death of his brother was his fault
-He gets desabled and can't do what he loved
-Then veryone left him
-Shoots himself
...Johnny is the most depressing Jojo...
Then dies trying to save his son getting his head smashed
Well ig jonathans are meant to have a bad life
Following up both jonathans had terrible lives and died horrible deaths both losing their heads
Wait. I just realised something. Is the fat Valentine at the start of the part Valentine from a different universe, and by the time we meet him at the end as the major villain, it's a completely different Valentine and that's why he's skinny now.
That has played on my mind for years
yeah but why would Valentine run around as fat Valentine when he could just be ripped Valentine?
I think it has to do with the corpse parts
no bun intended Because the valentines from different universes don't share the same consciousness. They're not a hive mind. They're all independent people, it's just that they're all valentine. I'm sure fat valentine doesn't want to die just so a buffer version of him can take over
@@doomgu544 none of the valentines want to die but its possible that fat Valentine died and passed on the heart and d4c to another him and that's the one we see later on
@@doomgu544 Well but that can't be true either, since every new Valentine that appears back in the base world after the Valentine before was injured knows exactly what's up. Would be weird otherwise.
So technically he could pull that off.
Well I'm still finishing Steel Ball Run, but I think one of its main themes is selfishness. Or lack thereof. It's kind of the force that sets everything in motion.
I love Johnny, so I base a lot of my interpretations on his way of acting, but SBR shows a lot of other characters that find the strength to fight because of a profoundly selfish wish. And sometime that isn't a bad thing.
A lot of fans say Johnny was the "villain" because Valentine wanted to help his country but, as you already partially hinted in this video, his goal isn't just.
He deliberately decided that killing a few people to achieve it was a sacrifice that had to be made (but *his* life was never on the line). Plus he wanted to direct the bad things to the rest of the world, because it didn't matter as long as it wasn't *his* country).
And I also find it ironic that Johnny, who spent the whole part stressing how he only cared about regaining the ability to walk, was the one who made some of the most genuinely selfless actions, like giving all the Holy Corpse parts he had for a half bottle of wine to save Gyro (I'm still emotional about that) or refusing to negotiate with Valentine even if that could mean he could see Gyro again (assuming he was saying the truth).
And well of course Gyro is the clearest example of selflessness.
Hopefully Araki comes full circle with motherhood in Jojolion
Bc The Main Villain is One
this man literally time traveled
Yoo your italian pronounciation is perfect. I'm loving your videos
You could do a whole video about how Lucy Steel is perpetually controlled by men and father figures, from Mountain Tim to Valentine to her own dad to Jesus!
“God took the wrong son”
God took the wrong dad, actually-
Thiccy Cheese
Dad took the son god
Yes, god took the wrong George Joestar
son took the wrong god
everyone has already said this but i’m not even 1 sec into the video and i already agree and love it
You should do a whole video about Johnny.
Yes. Yes he should.
Good idea Johnny Joestar
@@artsuno6018 are you a mosquito
@@johnnyjoestar5740 Just a loli who likes peppers, is that enough?
@@artsuno6018 I cant talk to girls, Gyro starts giving me a lecture on lady luck
when your father wishes you dead and you end up killing the president of the US, searching the mummy of Jesus and fighting dinosaurs using magical powers
When I read the “god you took the wrong son” page, I honestly had to stop reading for the damn day
It was just devastating even for a reader to see
SBR is a mixture of different parts and I love how it focuses on other characters plus the main protagonist. I also love how it shows Gyro as the main focus than slowly switches to Johnny.
2:31 I want more of that sexy italian pronounciation.
Mm
Ayyyy
ಠ‿ಠ
Watch the "brilliance of golden wind"
It has a lot of those
I have
Erection
I feel like it's no coincidence that Jojolion follows up on the themes of family by exploring motherhood LOL
WOOWWWWW
I personally think its more about family in general. Essentially all of the main characters had something happen or done related to their family that gives them the reasons for what they are doing. This even goes as far in many of the more popular side characters.
This is actually such a good theme especially when you realize the 4th example of Jesus being in the story and God being the one true “Father” and johnnys final words being that we should pray it shows importance of the relationship we have with our own fathers and with god this manga is beautiful
You know the talk between funny Valentine and Johnny was the scene that really cemented this for me to the best part there is
0:00 you're goddamn right
Fantastic video, I freaking loved it
I get why it’s important that Johnny’s father appeared in the end of the Steel Ball Run but I can’t forgive him, and I still don’t know how Johnny repaired his relationship with his father (which never was good to begin with) to the point of naming his son after him instead of his brother or even Gyro
What about Diego's father?
In a way steven steel was a father figure in a way
@@asdbuddy4848 i bet his wife calls him daddy
Araki forgot jajaja. He set that up and never did anything with it. Maybe there will be a new Brando in part 9
@@dantecrottogini529 hope the villian of part 9 is a communist diavolo
Diego's issues weren't exactly related to his father as with Johnny, Gyro and Valentine, but more so on how other people treated him and his mother.
*Ah yes, my favorite SBR character is the blonde long haired one!*
Would have been interesting to hear your take Diego's lack of father and instead only having a mother.
Dude,waited soooooo long for a video and it's a masterpiece
Neat af
You can even see the effect of fatherhood in Diego and Lucy.
Very good video, made me remind of the definition of parental messages of humanistic psychology, the resources that our parents give to us in order to confront our lives, either possitive o negative.
P.D.: I also think that the themes on steel ball run are the best ones of the series.
You’re my dad
Boogiewoogiewoogie
CRAAAAAWWWLIIING IIIN MY SKIIIN!!!
I like to think that during Steel Ball Run, Gyro assumed the role of fatherhood with Johnny, as he always remembers his own father's lessons while he looks Johnny growing. At the end, Gyro went to America to save random boy's life, and that's actually what happens with Johnny
8:29 How did you know I was going to include that in a future video?
Bad content creator tbh
*Good idea, I’m going to yoink it! :)*
He used Epitaph
Incredible analysis, you could find what I never couldn't, what was lacking in Valentine's actions that lead to his defeat.
I just didn't understand completely the end of the video, "humanity wins at the cost of everyone's misery". Someone get it?
watching this banger again on father's day, thanks btw!
One of the many reasons why Part 7 is my favorite Part
I would argue that Golden Wind has more than just one theme, it’s just that one theme is more central than others.
“God took the wrong son.”
Damm that hits hard.
There are pictures of Valentines father in the manga, his face is obscured and he's bloody usually, but we do see him. He's in Ball Breaker part 5
I actually think Vento Aureo can also be viewed as a commentary on the idea of Faith, but that's just my interpretation.
I'm interested in your reasoning for that, there's alot of religious symbolism in part 5 but I've never linked it to being about faith
@@elijahjarobi we see 2 stands that anchor you to your fate, rolling Stones and king crimson
To be fair, that is the main theme of part 5
I don't know if anyone already told you but pater is Latin, not Greek
Just a little correction but great video as usual
The Greek for father is pronounced similarly but yeah in this case it comes from latin
Also Gyro acts like a dad to Johnny.
Gyro acts more like an older brother to Johnny. Which does kind of fit because Johnny’s depression revolves around the death of his older brother.
@@TheBrutalSax this for sure. As someone who actually is an older brother it hit me hard in the feels
Gyros dad took Marcus Aurelius' Meditations to its most extreme conclusion?
Y know, when you look back, Gyro was also the father Johnny never really had. He taught him things, while also learning from johnny, he cared and respected him, cared for him, practically was pretty much a dad we never really knew
4:40 CHUNKY VALENTINE
You forgot about Diego, whose hatred for his father was the greatest fuel for his success in life and it, alongside the way his mother died, fully dictated how he saw the world and its people
Fatherhood is really important for humankind, it shapes a person, not in its own picture but to be anyone that she/he wants to be, to be ready to face the challenges coming towards her/him. Even if they aren't present you can still feel them within you providing guidance and reassurance .Cherish the time you spend with them, at least try to make them happy cause they have done that. At the end only memories remains...
5:00 this is gold
I think this is one of the first videos I've seen that actually explains Valentine's character together with the blatant failures he commits (as in, the way he imposes his views) and how that lead to his demise. He's an amazing character but will never be like a true "hero", like many like to claim.
This is very good, Oceanman😊😊😊😊
Gets done with conclusion then hears slow and quiet ocean man
Damn, Gregorio been practicing social-distancing since the 19th century
*Spoilers well duh*
Honestly looking back on it, all of steel ball run is just one big philosophy textbook. Like every character is just one big philosophy quandary. Also really liked how you remembered that damn test Johnny gave Valantine. I feel like so many people forgot about that part. Who knows maybe it's just memes and shitposts but I hate when people say Johnny is selfish and Valantine is a good person. The Johnny being selfish thing really gets my goat because we see in the sugar mountain ark that Johnny is willing to give up the corps parts (and any prospects of walking again) to save Gyro. That test was there to prove if Valantine actually meant what he said about doing what he did for the greater good, but the gun proves that Valantine is just full of hot air and would most likely just abuse the power for personal gain. While I'm at it, it ties back to the sugar mountain ark where Johnny gave up his legs for Gyro, and then has to give up on ever seeing Gyro again to protect the world from Valantine's BS. Sooo yeah Steel Ball Run is complicated and beautiful.
Man can i just say when you touched on fatherhood witj the zeppelis that was freaking beautiful what the hell LOL
This was such an amazing and intriguing video I was drawn closely to! I just finished steel ball run and this analysis tickled me just right! Thanks!!
Scary Monster Diego is by far my most favorite Dio
0:46 im pretty sure the themes your looking for is Horses Jesus and America
It's about the journey, not the destination
For your brilliant psycho-analysis of SBR I give you The Freud prize for psychology. It is shaped like a cigar, just a cigar
Second best story about fatherhood I’ve seen. First is Clannad by a landslide, but I feel like comparing anything to one of Clannad’s major themes is just unfair
wow I just finished part 7 and all 3 main characters have daddy issues. totally didnt notice that, nicesu
You're going so deep into the psychology of one of the most twisted villains and explaining why he became the feared figure he is, and I'm siting there laughing at a picture of Trump holding baby Valentine.
All the journey they go through with this theme makes that scene in high voltage with johnny's father acknowledging his mistakes, giving johnny the last push he needed, one of the most heartfelt scenes in the manga
"Steel Ball Run is *amazing* "
*well, isn't that obvious?*
In my opinion JoJos part 7 has a very nihilistic tone that differs allot from the previous parts. It's one of my favorite parts because I really was not expecting JoJos to take that route.
Its not really that nihilistic its neutral. The ball could fall on either side of the net.
I'm glad you touched on Johnny and Gyro, I hear endless praise for SBR, but 99% of the time all I hear is how awesome the villain Funny Valentine is. And the memes.
"Humanity wins at the cost of everyone's misery."
Then the victory wasn't worth it.
You're right, it wasn't worth it, but it was what they deserved and what they should get.
I just want to congratulate you for the italian names pronunciations, they're perfect!
Basically your saying Valentine lost because of his fatherless behavior ☠
Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure Part 7: Blond Boys With Daddy Issues
Michelle Cudebec they just blonde boyz doin what blonde boyz do
i just need to say a thing:HOLY CRAP YOU WON MY ATENTION AFTER 5 SECONDS OF VIDEO
When i first started reading it i didn't know why everyone liked it so much, and then it started to grow on me
You ever relate to a 1890s president
And Steven Steel is more of a father than a husbands to Lucy.
truly one of the deepest analysis of Jojo... Until you realized that it was the exact opposite of what happened in Stone Ocean with Jolyne.
Johnny: Good person with bad motivations
Valentine: Bad person with good motivations
This is a excellent explanation of the story, and I just realized I have been Jojoed all this years. :(