How to Get The PERFECT 2000s Metal Tone (ft. Sylosis)

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  • Combining STL Tonality Josh Middleton and 'Sylosis - Poison For The Lost' to demo how we used to get awesome quad-tracked metal rhythm guitar tones in the 2000s.
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  • @SystematicProductions
    @SystematicProductions  ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Systematic Mixing Guide eBook link has been fixed: sowl.co/UaeFs
    We appreciate all the support!

  • @spoonerluv
    @spoonerluv ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Minor detail but the pick attack on the string skipping part of the solo is wild. Josh is such a sick player.

  • @insertanynameyouwant5311
    @insertanynameyouwant5311 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Ermin is like those old dads who miss 80s but it`s 2000s for him lol
    nostalgia is fun

  • @thalliumstudios
    @thalliumstudios ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Amazing tone!
    Hope to see a full mastering video from this album soon. (Hopefully showcasing more of the bus+ and maybe even Flatline 2? 👀) We’ve all been chasing that mid-00’s mix and you’ve nailed it with this one. 🤘🏼

  • @diegoezra
    @diegoezra ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The grin on this man's face when he's getting the tone he's looking for is so relatable lmao

  • @Mistertyrannosaurus
    @Mistertyrannosaurus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got this suite and it so so close to the real amps it's insane! Love the tone you have on this video, thanks for the tips sir!

  • @cbd_miso
    @cbd_miso ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use the systematic mixing book to this day lol. I find something new every time I open it up. I love your tutorials, you make it look so easy.

  • @tylerbrittan593
    @tylerbrittan593 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude, so damn good! And I’d love that video showing how you mastered this beast! 🤘🏻

  • @obestertomas
    @obestertomas ปีที่แล้ว

    this video is just perfect ! thanks for this

  • @Poepopdestoep
    @Poepopdestoep ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome tones!!!

  • @SamuliVaihkonen
    @SamuliVaihkonen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    big yes for the mastering guide

  • @Almostgfx
    @Almostgfx ปีที่แล้ว

    This was awesome thank you!!

  • @jewgeniroudenko2190
    @jewgeniroudenko2190 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for the cool video. Yes, mastering of the song/album would be great!

  • @benzakonium
    @benzakonium ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant run through, instant sub

  • @JacobNates
    @JacobNates ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is sick. The new Sylosis singles have some of my favorite guitar tone in recent memory

  • @federicogarufi479
    @federicogarufi479 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That’s one of the most massive guitar tones I ever heard out of a plugin. Absolutely incredibile

  • @CoreyLTM
    @CoreyLTM ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great combo that bring us back to the golden era 🙌🏻 thanks for the video and yes definitly would be awesome to check the master chain

  • @chupiconverge6034
    @chupiconverge6034 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Sound, very good Job

  • @trumancarter1299
    @trumancarter1299 ปีที่แล้ว

    Killer job on this..absolutely love this plugin..still havent found my sound with the Dual Rec yet..but I've been Quad tracking with the Blockletter and Neural DSP Soldano and it's crazy awesome

  • @StanSinitsky
    @StanSinitsky ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Great video!
    Also, it would be awesome to see how to get the perfect 2000s rock tone (like Chevelle, Linkin Park, Three Days Grace etc.)

    • @becominghuman3561
      @becominghuman3561 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chevelle was 100% Mesa Mark IV and I believe Pete used a tech-21 sansamp to boost it. Linkin and Three Days Grace are mostly Mesa Dual/Triple Rectifier’s! But I would also love to see a video!

    • @camilo080808
      @camilo080808 ปีที่แล้ว

      Linkin Park and Three Days Grace probably used a tubescreamer + mesa boogie dual recto + Marshall jcm800... same idea like in this video. Hope this helps

    • @bradylasserre9320
      @bradylasserre9320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The commonality in that era/sound was a Mesa cab.
      It's arguable the amp is is interchangeable but more importantly, it wasn't a boosted/tight sound. Flubby (in a good way) and huge. Most of the time mid scooped. Through a Mesa cab and you are 95% of the way there.

    • @becominghuman3561
      @becominghuman3561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bradylasserre9320 The unboosted dual-rec sound is unbeatable!

    • @talkinghelpless3093
      @talkinghelpless3093 ปีที่แล้ว

      Linkin used mesa dual and modded Marshall. Three days grace its a combination between Diezel and Marshall amps.

  • @oz.faemine
    @oz.faemine 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Flawless as always. Would love a guide about mastering this record. And also a video on mixing vocals.

  • @yaroslavk8637
    @yaroslavk8637 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sound is killer! Would definitely appreciate mixing guide!

  • @marvinrockon
    @marvinrockon ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video. I would love to see the mastering behind that, yes!

  • @JakeJamesMusic
    @JakeJamesMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely going to grab this amp pack.

  • @Johnsua-lr3qw
    @Johnsua-lr3qw 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont have josh plug in but i do have the stl tones amp hub and let me tell you that I did everything you showed in this video and I got a kick ass tone, thank you so much man.

  • @romansweik
    @romansweik ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome guitar sounds, texture heaven. And yes, show us how you mastered this please!

  • @riptideL
    @riptideL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so impressed with this that i saved your settings as presets. I would love to know how to get bass tones (sims, settings etc) to sit with these 2000's GTR tones.

  • @DBBBB
    @DBBBB ปีที่แล้ว

    God damn these sound good straight out of the box.

  • @KieranZaneRoberts
    @KieranZaneRoberts ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was beginning to think this would be an ancient forgotten art lol but I'm surprised to hear that it holds up very well! Makes me want to revisit quad-tracking for a bit.

  • @Stig69
    @Stig69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sick vid! I can feel the Sneap forum energy haha

  • @scottdickson9224
    @scottdickson9224 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "I ams, a tones chasers" - Skwisgaar Skwigelf.

  • @jimb7216
    @jimb7216 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The sound I grew up with. That will always be the sound I think guitars should have.

  • @coldwords7019
    @coldwords7019 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. I’d definitely be interested in seeing how you mastered the record. Thanks in advance.

  • @Sublight77
    @Sublight77 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought his sig ltd a couple months ago, guitar sounds insanely good for recording. It just naturally sounds like what youre tryin to eq. The chunk is in the low mids, very clear.

  • @ErikGruvesater
    @ErikGruvesater ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing!

  • @TheMrcalamity
    @TheMrcalamity ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds huge! Hope you will do a mastering video!

  • @AstralTales
    @AstralTales ปีที่แล้ว +41

    My fav guitar sound. Nothing chugs better than a 5150 and a Mesa. I'd love to see the mastering process for this one!

    • @tusharjamwal
      @tusharjamwal ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fortin Meshuggah chugs pretty good 🤘

  • @BalashToth
    @BalashToth ปีที่แล้ว

    What an immense guitar tone😮 kickass🤘💀🤘

  • @marcusuussalu3016
    @marcusuussalu3016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course we want a mastering walkthrough ;)

  • @camilo080808
    @camilo080808 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn, I want the mastering video too. It sounds so awesome.

  • @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE
    @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds killer! It'd be great to get a video on how to get lead guitars to pop like that solo too! Completely unobstructed and the focus of attention without sacrificing the integrity of the rhythm guitars - a problem I have in my own demos, it all turns to a blurry mess, likely because I'm not carving enough out with EQ/multi-band compression etc...
    Cheers from sunny old England!

  • @tylerkennedy4203
    @tylerkennedy4203 ปีที่แล้ว

    the look of glee on your face when you are dialing in these tones you can tell you love what you do
    thats also an important ingredient

  • @MickDavies
    @MickDavies ปีที่แล้ว

    Sylosis, perfect gat sounds, perfect power lifting music 🤘

  • @Professional.Bro.777
    @Professional.Bro.777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta appreciate Ermin's consistency in the gym. Dude never looked small

  • @Riffa22
    @Riffa22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see you do a video with the Lasse Lammert Tonality, that purple nightmare is sickening

  • @m3m3sis
    @m3m3sis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It hurts hearing childhood when you still love those albums as a thirty something. Nostalgia sux

  • @DANBURKLOW
    @DANBURKLOW 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Swell playlist.. Could you please create one with some October ends tunes? Dark is my favourite one and then Play Time, Devil's Den as well !!

  • @ssmetalrulz
    @ssmetalrulz ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the systematic mixing guide be helpful and easy to follow for a bedroom musician like myself to learn the basics of mixing? I mostly use pedal board based tones, plugins etc.

  • @Steve_the_Bastard
    @Steve_the_Bastard ปีที่แล้ว

    How long is it gna be till these programs are getting used live with a controller of some sorts. It’s awesome

  • @TOTO-nr8vu
    @TOTO-nr8vu ปีที่แล้ว

    GOOD VIDEO ERMIIN!!! you have not shown the FX section where there is the Parametric EQ pedal activated (on preset 4). An explanation of adjustment with the large possibilities of this pedal would have been interesting with you ;-)

    • @SystematicProductions
      @SystematicProductions  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I considered it, but it would've bloated the video with another section that most people would have skipped, which would have reduced the average view duration, which means the algo would've shown it to less people, which means less people would've seen everything etc. We have to pick our battles on these platforms sometimes.

    • @TOTO-nr8vu
      @TOTO-nr8vu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SystematicProductions ok it's true I hadn't seen it from that point, it's still a video very provided by your explanations which brings us a very rich content in the end, thank you for explaining the structure of the sound with so much of passion.

  • @riptideL
    @riptideL ปีที่แล้ว

    WONDERFUL, great video i will refer back to. How does the dual rec compare to the tipple rec tone wise and how you would dial one in?

    • @SystematicProductions
      @SystematicProductions  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Triple Rec we generally felt was overkill. You needed to crank it up so loud to get the tone sweet spot that it largely defeated the point.

    • @riptideL
      @riptideL ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SystematicProductions Thanks, but damn, took 2 tubes out of my triple rec just so i could run it through my boss waza expander (i need to keep quiet) and ran it through the Bogren Irs. Got the triple 15 years ago before i knew anything about anything.

  • @enacku
    @enacku 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what software on a PC should I use to use these plugins?

  • @ignadrs
    @ignadrs ปีที่แล้ว

    dat panda daytona tho... that thing just pops

  • @leoj6760
    @leoj6760 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone know what song is playing in the background at 12:35 ?

  • @stijnbos7614
    @stijnbos7614 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those drums sound insane too dude. Did you mix/master this too?

  • @JonnyBlammo
    @JonnyBlammo ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make a ControlHub pack with STL Tones!

  • @ronnymilianowicz5228
    @ronnymilianowicz5228 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was the Mesa blended like -5 db compared to the 5150?

  • @UncleBensRice
    @UncleBensRice ปีที่แล้ว

    9:30 the eq on the Rectifier is passive not active. The tonestack in that amp is pretty much the same circuit as the Peavey 5150 or even most Marshall heads. Interaction wise it's the same
    as the other mentioned amps, the only noticable difference is how the presence behaves in modern mode. Turning the mids up is not the same as turning the bass and treble down.
    The Peavey Triple X is the only amp in that plugin that really has an active eq.

  • @zzzaaacckk6905
    @zzzaaacckk6905 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    did you use the same di file on the double? as I look closely on the waveform it looks a slightly different.

  • @c4li
    @c4li ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the triple X, very underappreciated amp. Does anyone make a Framus Cobra plugin these days?

    • @SystematicProductions
      @SystematicProductions  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good question! Hopefully we will one day.

    • @nearyxciv5896
      @nearyxciv5896 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is one that is part of the STL Amp Hub plugin, for me it's good but not that great but Audio Assault have one in their ReAmp plugin that is very good and worth trying in my opinion

    • @ScrewDJ_McDuck
      @ScrewDJ_McDuck ปีที่แล้ว

      Thermionik by Kazrog has framus cobra

  • @alvinfon3575
    @alvinfon3575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir how to avail the systematic Mixing guide? its failed to process the link

  • @metalfather8139
    @metalfather8139 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    did you do the bass too?

  • @Mixingmachine774
    @Mixingmachine774 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want great colour use spl twin tube

  • @lightwarp_
    @lightwarp_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The plugin is great, but idk, I can't get tones like this guy did. I am used to Neural DSP Omega, maybe I am spoiled )))

  • @drummingjeremy11
    @drummingjeremy11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The link for the systematic mixing guide doesn't appear to be working correctly.

  • @daddysullivan87
    @daddysullivan87 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    XXX slays

  • @Julian66666666666666
    @Julian66666666666666 ปีที่แล้ว

    i don't know but to me there's a constant KSHHHHHHHH sound on the higher frequencies

  • @ScrewDJ_McDuck
    @ScrewDJ_McDuck ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds super good. But can someone explain me if this is not modern guitar tone, what is modern metal guitar tone?
    P.S Duuude yall almost nailed STAMPIN GROUND - New Darkness Upon Us sound.

    • @Ste20389
      @Ste20389 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly you could use this for modern metal, but I think modern metal tones tend to be more snappy

    • @SystematicProductions
      @SystematicProductions  ปีที่แล้ว

      Never heard that record before. It's awesome!

  • @aaronedmunds5685
    @aaronedmunds5685 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are those guitars double tracked or copy and paste

  • @bwhity
    @bwhity 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    will you make a master video for a track like this? sick of nueral dsp metal

  • @alvarg
    @alvarg ปีที่แล้ว

    why would starting with the cab section be strange, it literally makes the largest difference.

  • @Riffa22
    @Riffa22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dual Rectum fryer 🤣

  • @okaight7248
    @okaight7248 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you still believe in doing extremely high amounts of EQ to guitar tones to make it fit?

    • @SystematicProductions
      @SystematicProductions  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I only ever did that because it was necessary due to less than ideal raw tones. We have so many options for creating tones these days, that we can get very close from the raws.

  • @alrecks619
    @alrecks619 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jewel Rektohm lmao.

  • @AndreySedov
    @AndreySedov 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate how people compare soft 2 soft and tell what blockletter has!! Just get hardware and go

  • @melkon1an
    @melkon1an ปีที่แล้ว

    Your forehead needs Botox before your wrinkles are permanent

  • @kolicsmate7506
    @kolicsmate7506 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does my dude talk like Lars Ulrich

  • @donbehatin
    @donbehatin ปีที่แล้ว

    "watch the video all the way through" nah homie since you wanna tell me what to do ima do the polar opposite. way you talk i feel like i'm watching an infomercial and you're trying to sell me your content like it's a slap chop. funny i always enjoyed your mixes and a couple of the musicians you work with and took a lot of advice from you on the sneap forums but this "hurrdurr ima utoober" vibe is just a huge turnoff for me. having your own identity is important and yours is just copy paste from every other mediocre tryhard on here. you're better than this. (at least i thought so back in the day)

  • @GeorgeZimmermen
    @GeorgeZimmermen ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh bummer. This is another digital plug in thing. Pass

  • @tomix1970pl1
    @tomix1970pl1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike problems.Difficult to listen to your voice.