Look up Frank Zappa on TH-cam. Top result is Cosmik Debris- 5.6 mil views. Look up Allan Holdsworth. Top result is Looking Glass in Frankfurt- 1 mil views. Holdsworth may not be the most underrated, but he definitely more underrated than Zappa.
@@pwhqngl0evzeg7z37 thats an opinion. As is mine. I just think its nonsense seeing zappa as overrated. Consistently going over peoples heads. His name isnt underrated. Its quite famous but as a guitarist, most people have no clue.
@@studiosinger Soooo….how would you know he’s “unsaved” and if “God” is such a “forgiving God” then why would you speak out both sides of your mouth about “God”?
When Dimebag burst upon the scene he made quite an impact. And rightfully so. A lot of the established players praised his style and sound, guys like Vai and Lynch gave him props. And here comes the interesting part; when he stated in interviews that he used solid state amps, he got criticised for the "solid state tone" in various guitar forums. It would've been funny if he had never revealed that he did _not_ use tube amps. Because when people know what kind of gear is used, all of a sudden they start attributing certain qualities to a sound...😁
Steve Vai said in an interview about 15 years ago that Dime was one of the cleanest, most accurate players he’d ever seen, and he envied it. That says *something*..
I actually had no idea Dime used solid state until I read this, but I still hold my opinion that I dont like his tone regardless of it being tube or SS.
@@Anthony-nk4ky i hear a lot of people say that they don’t like his tone, and at first i didn’t get it. i loved it! but now i can see in songs like Walk and whatnot that it’s pretty choice. i love it all the way. he’s my favorite player, but i get that it’s a pretty choice tone
Tom Morello's sound is a mix between a guitar tone and a turntable. He accomplishes this with varying levels of success. Steve Vai has moved to playing a lot of straight ahead blues these days. Ringo Starr is the MOST UNDERRATED drummer in Rock N Roll history.
RE: Joe Bonamassa - Want to hear something from him that's unique and inspiring? Listen to his lead playing on the first 2 songs on the album from his first band, Bloodline. He was 17 at the time. I personally think he's turned into a more standard blues player since then. But his playing on those Bloodline songs influenced me greatly.
You had dimebag on your other list. Dimebag was dedicated. I remember him saying he made a few new licks every day, and he had an entire catalog of licks he could recall for improvising. That's dedication. He wasn't in it for the money. The man loved guitars, heavy metal and partying. He shouldn't be on the list.
If he didnt suffer the most insane death in rock, no one would give a shot about Dimebag, just like when he was in damageplan. I dig the whole steel guitar through a screaming amp and hot PU thing he did. I do like some pantera songs but honestly, anyone who cant play that stuff, should probably face up to the fact that a guitar players life of mediocrity awaits. Honestly compare them all to the span of talent that exists between people like EVH, Alex Lifeson, john 5 (rocks last best hope) hell, angus young or the right reverend Billy Gibbons. I am the odd ball who thinks Led Zeppelin sucks ass except for a few songs that I really like. I never understood that mosh pit shit.
Richard's is just a face. He actually doesn't play guitar much, and the Stones have always had another player on their albums. He just mimes during concert and videos. If you read any articles about the Stones. Keith quit playing about the time he discovered heroin. Mick then took reigns as leader and business guy. He's a mascot not a guitar player.
The term 'overrated' describes value. In regards to youtube channels, it does not translate directly into number of subscribers/views. For example, if only 10 people watched and all of them had a positive opinion about a video that had mistakes in it, that video would be overrated. So no, saying that your youtube channel is overrated is not a compliment. You have used the title 'Top 10 Overrated Guitar Players' just to catch more views, which worked. I believe that 'Top 10 guitar players that I don't like' would not be as effective. You knew that people will not like that, but you just don't care, you'll say anything to boost the views. Sad.
It seems you weren't paying attention. "Top 10 Guitar Players that I don't like" would not be an appropriate title, since he likes some of these guitarists. Because it is possible to like someone and think they're overrated at the same time. Obviously.
It's all based on his personal taste while I dont necessarily agree with his picks I understand why he would think they are overrated he just doesn't like their style or the hype they have.
Yeah, in the previous video he literally just said "Jack White is the worst guitar player I've ever heard" which is not only OBVIOUS hyperbole, but also completely ignores WHY he thinks Jack White is overrated. There are probably some good arguments to be made for him being overrated, but he didn't make any of them.
I’ve seen slash 3 times in the past 7 years, and trust me.. he can fucking rip it on the guitar live and some stuff with Myles was way damn better live
I absolutely agree. He is a guitar monster, I saw them live 3 years ago with Myles and he was playing 11+ minute guitar solos all improv and it was so amazing. Plus all his solos on the albums that weren’t Guns N’ Roses make it so he literally can’t be overrated. He never stopped improving
@@Alex19II …😆🤣😂…. I’m sure Slash is hurt that you feel that way. Maybe all those millions of fans, his bank account, the number of women he’s had and the gold records on his wall will console him.
My most over rated Guitarist...Jimmy Page. Now, don't misunderstand me, I love Led Zepplin. Listen to their music, still, almost daily...either by radio or playing it. He wrote a lot of iconic riffs. But, his music to me sounds better when someone else is playing the guitar.
Honesty isn't calling Dimebag or Zappa "overrated". A common trend with people who use the phrase "brutal honesty" don't seem to understand that it's not brutally honest to be objectively wrong and dodge people who are deservedly calling you out.
I actually thought the video in question was kind of a breath of fresh air amid a sea of people who all have the same opinions. Honesty is not really valued on TH-cam or in the social media world in general, it's more important to be funny and upbeat all the time and make sure you never express an opinion that is out of line with the current dogma, or if you're going to make any kind of a statement you have to make sure to crack a lot of jokes around it so that you can redirect any criticism that comes your way by saying you weren't serious. The other side of this of course is that most of the people criticizing you on here probably can't play or read a note of music, and most of the big music TH-camrs don't have the balls to put their own music out there or express any original opinions.
You‘re getting more diplomatic as time goes by ;) I‘m so glad everyone‘s got different tastes, nothing wrong with that. A lot of the guys whose style I don‘t like are innovators, so they get their points from me for that and all the other players they‘ve influenced. Personally, I don‘t get the Clapton and Santana adoration - yet - though they‘re still highly listenable and musical to my ears.
The first video was genius because it's pure low IQ clickbait. He probably made a thousand dollars on it. And to be fair, he was spot on about most of those guys and in a way that was kind ditsy for lack of a better word. Very few people are really good at the guitar and also at the same time really rich and famous for doing so. It's an insanely hard instrument to play because you can do so much on it, so the bar is high, and secondly, people have bad taste, and most people are put off by greatness (it's kind of alienating I guess).
I enjoyed the original video more, as I felt it was more "in the moment" and what you really felt. This one feels (to me anyway) more like an apology, which you don't have or need to give to us. Your opinions and/or feelings are just as valid as ours, if not more so, being that you are a guitarist yourself. I, on the other hand, am not. I do have 3 guitars and I fiddle with them now and again but I suck and my short, stubby fingers were not made for narrow necks. Anyway... I loved that video and I did provide a comment or two. Still a bit curious why you felt the need to post this one, excepting the possibility that it might garner high views like that one did. Yes, I love a good rant, and I rant about musicians, singers, et al., all the time myself. And yes, sometimes a friend, acquaintance or co-worker will share some info (whether I want it or not) as to why I should have a less steadfast opinion. "Listen to this, watch this...". I get that all the time. Then again, I'm sort of known (in my circles) for my sarcasm and extreme criticality of certain musicians, actors, etc. Please consider sticking to your guns, regardless of what we (your viewers, friends, family, whatever) have to say. There will ALWAYS be people that disagree with you, and it will get worse as you gain notoriety. So, in my humble opinion, it was your honesty and off-the-cuff starkness that brought in all those views on that episode. No need to apologize, regardless of what sources may have influenced you to "dilute" or "enhance" your original post. I disagreed (in the other video) on the inclusion of Zappa, but I still loved the show. Keep it going!!!
Love a lot of Zappa music. I’d say he was a brilliant leader. He hired and surrounded himself with incredible talent. Hot Rats, amazing album. Some other stuff seemed less musical and more geared towards entertainment or trying to get across a message.
To be honest a top 10 underrated guitarist list would be more interesting. I also don't understand why people like Keith Richards, Jack White, or Kirk Hammett are on that list because nobody rates them highly. Saying Marty Friedman was overrated would make more sense because he's actually highly rated by most (to be clear, Friedman is absolutely not overrated). You want some actually interesting overrated picks? Look no further than the old school boomer rock guitarists. Hendrix, Santana, Clapton, Page, etc. Take Page for example; anybody who's at least a little bit talented who practices hard, practises smart and practises consistently for approx. 8 months can master anything in the Zeppelin discography if they want. Now let's look at the young Swedish guitar phenom, 19 years old, releases his first album about 4 years after Zeppelin's last; Yngwie Malmsteen. Someone practising the same way for 8 months would be nowhere close to being able to attempt his songs. There's not much time separating Page and Malmsteen, yet one is light years ahead and remains incredibly challenging to this day. You could make the same case for Van Halen, whose musicianship still endures after all these years unlike all those other boomer guitarists, despite being close in terms of era. The boomer rockers were great then, and are still great songwriters. Great sources of inspiration? Sure. But great guitar players now? Nah.
I can't understand how anyone can listen to "The Sleep" by Pantera and not think Dimebag was amazing and had exceptional skill and tone. As for Vai, not huge on most of his 80's solo work, but I adore Alien Love Secrets.
I agree on the tone aspect, while I LOVE Dimes playing and he's a super influential guitar player on me his tone imo is hot garbage. It fits the overall sound of Pantera very well, but as a standalone tone I would never even attempt to attain it. As far as metal tones go, I'd rather have Mustaines Rust era rhythm tone or that killer Mesa Boogie tone Mark Morton and Willie Adler had in Ashes era LOG
@@kremasag6612 I don’t judge another guitar player based on tone choice. Like I said, I love Dimes playing. I don’t like his tone. Doesn’t stop me from listening to and learning his songs
If you dont like listening to "non stop" Vai Shred Just listen to his whitesnake albums or dlr stuff. I cant listen to instrumental shred stuff either but I love those vai era albums. Amazing riffs and licks but still has a song structure and catchy choruses
What can you say about Alan Holdsworth, Shawn Lane, Jeff Beck, & Guthrie Govan? You should make a video of the best electric guitarists that you admire & respect...
Sounds like an apology video 😂 it’s all good man! It’s your opinion. Just be careful making videos attacking other guitarists. People are going retaliate.
Dimebag overrated??? Cemetery gates, Walk, cowboys from hell, great southern treadkill, floods just to name a few of many some of the best riffs and solos. nobody has come close to being that original and that gifted far from overrated
@@slowburnritual3055 that doesn't mean anything you goofy person. I'm from Texas too and have listened to Pantera from the beginning. You don't have any extra knowledge that life long listers cant recognize. All it takes is your ears. Theres not a metal guitarist around that has ever produced anything comparable to Dime. He was an original.
Check out Zakk’s stuff in Ozzmosis. Beautiful phrasing man. Ozzmosis (in my opinion) is Ozzy’s most underrated album. His two notes per string runs are crazy in general. As far as is heavy use of pinch harmonics, you can thank Ozzy for that. He told him to sound that way in the middle of Zakk’s debut album, No Rest For the Wicked. If you want flack, do what you did last time. If not maybe throw in your input as far as seeing why people like them as well. End on a positive note. I like Alex Lifeson too, but not many say he’s overrated, so that was safe territory for you. I’m actually surprised you didn’t drop David Gilmore’s name. But then again, I don’t think many believe he’s overrated. Your opinion is your opinion and there’s nothing wrong with that. But maybe don’t just shit allover someone next time. I have this issue with plenty of music myself. BUT my amazing father said “When you don’t like someone’s music, find out why, and then find what you like about them.” Learning never stops if you know what’s good for you. The moment you say I’ve learned it all and you’re as good as it gets, congratulations, you have fulfilled your prophecy that you have nothing left to learn and you instantly stop progressing. Another one my father gave me was “It’s about the journey, not the destination”. You can learn something from anyone, even someone that’s never played music before they pick up their instrument for the first time. Every musician in the world has their influences. With the exact of Keith Richards, not a single one of these guys are up there talking about they’re the best there is or ever will be. So if you want to talk about people being overrated, maybe talk about the cocky guys that think they’re better than everyone (cough cough Richards). I think that would be a more honest approach in my opinion.
I disagree about Keef. He's a rythm guitar player mostly and for that he's arguably the best that ever was. He is praised for his creativity and unique style, not for his shredding skills or whatever. He wrote some of the most iconic riffs ever. That's something you cannot say about most of the others in this list.
I don’t think Zappa is overrated, he can improvise a great 7 minute guitar solo live without repeating licks or any of it. I don’t think Kirk should be in the list because 1) he’s actually good, 2) honestly no one ever praised Kirk for anything, internet is filled with people trolling him all the time.
Kirk is very basic, not a bad guitarist, just average, but the problem is that mainstream audiences do overrate guys like him and Slash. For metalheads and music lovers in general, yeah we know he is not really standout, but mainstream audiences are bigger hence that overrating effect does ring true in this case.
No way you call dimbag Darell overrated he is an amazing guitarist. He didn't become famous just because he was overrated. he worked his ass hard to be where he is today. Please respect the legend. Thank you.
@@metamizol1606 That's a strange metric to judge someone's ability to judge poor music writing. I'm a prolific reader, and I know a crap book when I read one. I also know a crap film when I watch one; I'm not a writer or a director either.
@@NmpK24 Yeah. Musicianship is a pretty broad umbrella to categorize things under. Cue the obligatory teenager with dictator profile picture thinking he knows better than others.
Good comeback video. The Keith comment threw me off last time the most because he is rhythm. But you cleared it up by saying he’s cool and wrote some off the best riffs and right you are. You can get tired of some of the guitarists that were on your list for sure but some where and are some pretty good and some great guitarist. I favor some of the more song writing guitarist with tasty licks and great song writing. I would say Guthrie Goven is one of the best guitarist today but he needs a singer songwriter or he will just stay around with the same material. That’s not a good thing. But opinions are like you know what and everyone has them lol. Being technically great is not good enough because it’s not music or has any staying power. They sound like practicing. Take Comfortably Numb as an example, very well written song, has great two solos in it and everyone remembers it. You can for sure play it more than once and many many have.
Hey, Nick, it is funny how at one moment in time we're not into a specific player but as time goes on we wind up actually digging that person's playing a whole lot more. I think it's safe to say it's all part of this wild ride we're on called life a s a guitarist/musician :) Keep rockin' the good roll!
I remember the original vid. We argued a bit about Kirk, lol! Steve Vai and I still just don’t connect, although I respect the hell outta him. Cool that you revisited your old vid with fresh ears (and eyes)!
People can change their opinions, especially when presented with new “evidence”. I didn’t think your original video was extremely genuine anyways, it seemed like you were just throwing out what you didn’t care for about each guitarist you mentioned, with some humorous quips here and there. It seems you definitely dug deeper on those you mentioned, and at least were able to see what others loved so much about them, even if it’s not your thing.
You mentioned STP and yeah those are some good muscians especially the guitar work. Great variety. Yeah man Dime Bag Darrelle was really good and im glad you said what you said about him. Reiterating your point and acknowledging his talent. Zakk is pretty dope too. He has a band Pride and Glory and his solo stuff too which is like southern rock which you may find interesting I think. F Metallica and especially Hammett. I like that you made the original video in the first place. Definitely got an interesting dialogue going. Keep it up.
To be honest, I liked the previous video more even I totally disagree with all the names in it. This one sounds conservative and feels that you are trying to protect something or someone. I have some points and questions. It would be really nice if you consider reading them and maybe answering them. 1. How come you were rating all these people without knowing their work? As you mentioned several times, you have known these guys better thanks to friends and people who introduced you to more interesting works of them since the previous video. 2. How come your Pantera fan friend never talked with you about cemetery gates when it was one of their most popular songs and most aired? 3. About Steve Vai and his complex music. Just because something isn't pleasant to your ears or you can not constantly listen to, doesn't mean it is Overrated. It just you don't like it. 4. This is somehow related to the previous one. I don't believe that there is any reason to rate anyone in music or any type of entertainment (even the cheapest and cheesiest productions). It is just a matter of personal preferences and taste! You may like it and will listen to it, otherwise millions of other bands/artists are out there waiting to be discovered and probably more joy and fun bringing for you with listening to their music. Anyway, I like your videos because it is always cool to have different opinions and also dare to talk about your opinions! Thumbs up to that! 🍺
Zakk is a filter... ppl that doesn't put attention on details don't understand him... this guy said that all solos sounds the same on the first album with ozzy but on the same note on that very first album with ozzy Zakk plays a southern rock style solo on I don't wann change the world which is completely different from the other solos like no more tears and SOS.. He just doesn't understand the guys he is naming.... and this video is living proof.. as soonest he started putting attention to Dimebag he realize how stupid was to put the great dime on the previous list, and that's how it is with almost every guitar player on the list... Kirk Hammett writes memorable solos he is a great writer his riffs and solos are well known world wylde.. that's also what makes Slash good, and Keith Richard's is a blues player so is about the feeling. Guys just doesn't know them well
Tone aside..whats amazing about DD is that he can play a super interesting and memorable solo without rhythm guitars backing him up. Not many can do that. I'll come back to this comment with examples.
No guitarist sounded like Zappa. His oeuvre was weird, complex, eclectic, dADaesque, often puerile, sometimes inspired, sometimes god-awful, but as a guitarist, I'll take his playing on "Hot Rats", still my favorite Zappa album, still one of my favorite albums, period; I enjoy his solos (and songs) as much now as I did in 1969. On "Hot Rats", he (mostly) took a vacation from his ubiquitous out-of-left-field finger-in-your-eye goofball stuff and, musically, played it straight up.
Completely agree about Tom Morello and Bonamassa. Was really weirded out past couple years when Bonamass was plastered all over the place. Hammett, IMO, doesn't get the credit he deserves, maybe not technically but definitely when it comes to influence and being a legend. He's heavily influenced by Hendrix, hence the wah and the blues fusion. Zappa and Vai are linked, as you already know. It took me a lifetime to "get it" with Zappa, but it just clicked one day - guy was a genius. If you dig one you'll likely dig the other. With Vai, his best album, IMO, is Flex-Able...which happens to have the most Zappa influence, ha! Keith is Keith, dude is a legend. What sounds "simple" to most people, especially guitar players, is not - the guy is a song writing genius and I doubt most could pull off what he does with ease. Jack White...I have never heard of anyone who considers him a great guitar player? Slash agree. But what he accomplished at the age he accomplished it is just mind blowing. I think you should be more impressed with whoever produced/engineered that album Vs his skill, lol. Zakk, agree.
I did this a few years ago, and of course your opinions change over time. I appreciate Joe more now. Tom's done some interesting music as well. I've always liked Kirk, and he seems like a super cool guy. I love the rock/blues style but I think it seemed like an odd fit for a speed metal band, but that's also what made them sound like "Metallica". I do like some Zappa stuff for sure, I just can't listen to it for long and I have to be in a mood for it. At times it seems he did things "odd" just as a gratuitous way to be "odd". Joe's Garage is great, no doubt. Vai's also great, and I wore out more than a few of his cassettes back in the day. But he's another I need to be in a mood for, and that's not often. Keith is great, simple but great. He fits the band very well which is what the goal is anyway. And I've always loved The Stones. Slash ia great in the studio but it bugged me that he could never pull it off live for a long time, so that makes it less impressive. He's changed and gotten more consistent over the years, which is good to see. Thanks for the thoughts, man! Good stuff! Part of the reason I did this a few years back was to be proven wrong and learn more about these guys, which did happen and kind of what I hoped for! All good stuff. :)
@@OneGuitarist Just wanted to add that I would include Jim Root (Slipknot) on the list of overrated guitarists. I totally do not get the praise he gets but maybe I'm missing something.
@@OneGuitarist yeah I love Bonamassa. He takes it to the next level when he plays live which I find refreshing. But i'm just a bedroom player and it's funny how there are those players who are technically GREAT, but I just can't listen to them. Vai, Malmsteen, etc... my old guitar instructor would call them guitar "athletes" lol. I respect Clapton but can't listen to him all day. Prob only two guitarist I could listen to all day and that is Gilmour and Knopfler :) peace
@@johnlstubbs3173 Yep, totally get you there. And we all go back and forth: you get burned out on this, start listening to that, go back to older things, etc. Keeps things interesting :). Have a great day, John!
It was (original clip) and is just someone's opinion. Worth as much as everyone else. I do not understand why so much hatred (original clip). It should be just the opposite, it's always great fun to hear other people's honest opinions about famous guitarists. Especially with a little more argument as in this clip. We are all aware that it's possible to find (thank you TH-cam) if not thousands of anonymous players who are much better than "all these great" famous players (regardless of the instrument). Most musicians from these similar lists have themselves acknowledged and accepted it a long time ago ... Why don't you, all haters?
Frank had a specialized style of playing a different solo on every show he made, that does probably mean he did not hone his skills to record the tightest albums. But never the less an admirable skill that few outside jazz dedicates to. But I understand other people have different opinions then me, I have no technical music understanding I just feel it. Hell I even have to much add to hold a beat for more then 4 seconds anyway so, yeah....
I don't know why you got so many dislikes on both videos. I haven't seen you outright hate on any of them. You praise every single player and you just give valid reasons on why you think there overrated as a whole. Most probably just saw overrated and seen a guitar player they loved and took it to heart. Good video 👍
@@OneGuitarist It's fanboy culture lol. I used to be like these idiots once... I grew up though. Sadly some people don't grow out of this mind set. That's how some folks are though sadly... "If you don't like what I like exactly how I like it then FUCK YOU" is how they act. Completely childish...
dimebags thing was he introduced unorthodox, weird single note riffs to mainstream metal. weird bendy notes, single string riffs going up and down the fret board. the intro to Revolution my name is WEIRD if you think about it. the tone IS uhm...interesting lol! not a fan and alot bad bands took that tone
“I had Dime on my overrated list despite not really being exposed to Pantera except for b-sides and obscure songs. I also I didn’t like the lyrics, and held that against him too. Then I pulled my head out and actually listened and realized he’s pretty good.” FTFY, DA
I love your Pantera history. Your friend was the Pantera hipster friend who loved songs that weren't the popular songs that the posers liked. Haha!! Great update. Thanks man.
I agree with 80% of your list which surprised me. I could probably think of better candidates than Bonamassa and Slash but hey, it's subjective and all in good fun right? I'll definitely be checking out more from your channel.
off topic, and feel free to roast me for what might be a stupid question. Eddie's Brown Sound and I guess subsequent tones.......to do his stupid fast right hand picking, where he comes up at the strings from below and pivots with his wrist.....he must be using a light / thin pick because there is no way to get pick flex out of a 1mm Jim Dunlop or Medium Fender, right....? But then how to get a monster tone with a flimsy pick; is that just simply tons of gain in the amp?
you have Dimebag and Kirk on here as overrated you kidding me they are 2 of the very best RIP DIMEBAG i am just glad you didn't put Eddie Van Halen or Jim or Mick from SLIPKNOT or James from Metallica on this list but DIMEBAG AND KIRK that's a joke but it's your choice who to like but they are not overrated much respect to you as I am a metal and Slipknot fan 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
It's funny because I also did an Underrated one, and that didn't get nearly the views that this one got. Interesting to see which one was far more popular.
Thanks OG. Most of the millions aspiring guitarists/musicians out there, no matter how highly skilled/talented, are lucky to even get to peek over that wall toward the level success of most of these named have gotten to. Even for the musicians or bands I don't personally care for, I kind of have to respect their success, I think, even if I believe it was only (or partly) them being in the right place at the right time. I haven't watched a lot of your posts, but I have to think you been around long enough this mission impossible music biz to generally feel that way, too. No?
There not over rated. Those guys can write hooks and real songs. It’s not just mindless shredding. That’s what counts to me. There all exceptional in there own way and there styles of playing fit there genre. If you can write timeless pieces of music you can’t even be rated on a scale it’s just iconic. If you wanna study individual technique each excels in what they do and what counts is it fits the music perfectly.
Being a great songwriter is separate from being a great guitar player. Being a great guitar player requires great mastery over the instrument, as well as great musicality.
On that list, I love Keith Richards and Frank Zappa. The others I haven't heard or don't care for. Barney Kessel is my favourite guitarist if I had to pick one.
Hey since I'm one of your first comments I have a question for you : I wanna buy the Gretsch G230T and takeout the filtertron "humbucker" pickups and replace them with zak wyldes EMG 81/85 PUs I'm new to the guitar scene yet I realize the gretsch wouldn't be a typical guitar to have those kind of pickups in them but thats exactly why I wanna do it so what do you think? And furthermore know anyone that will install them?
It cracks me up the way people pile onto the comments not realising that in doing so it confirms the success of your business model, as in 'generate heat marketing'.
So who is the guitarist not ‘overrated’ for you? And if you don’t mind can you play one of their songs and please choose the hard one so I can be agree with your own opinion ...
I mean, Morello is about far more than riffs or anything like that. He's a composer from the top of the headstock to the vibration of the air waves going into your eardrums. Anything between those two points is fair game for Morello.
I agreed with you on everything from the previous video, I disagree only on Dime because I believe he had an incredible technique and creativity as well as a huge sound ... I saw him in Italy in the early nineties and I was impressed by his ability to control sound and technical mastery. He inserted both colours and elements of jazz chords, his riffs were a mixture of all this, he surprised you with this ability to put unexpected things in a genre like metal. For me he's a metal school leader and not only this
Dime has some psychotic picking techniques too. Go check out Slaughtered. The chuggy riff at the end is super crazy picking. There is also a crazy ass groove riff in This Love. It seems like you’re taking your approach differently now. Good job man. 👍
As of today.. 500k views... 30k thumb downs, only 5k thumbs up. WOW! I get what you're saying. There's just so many factors, though. From the standpoint of the players, the fact we are even talking about them is significant. Secondly, this concept of "value" is obviously subjective. Do you think Bach was overrated? Was Van Gogh overrated? They were supremely underrated in their time, for sure... only to be discovered after their death. If Vai tires your ear, would you stand to hear Chopin for more than 5 minutes? Overall, good follow-up vid!
It's difficult not to get triggered when these ratings come out. But I get it.I also don't mean to trigger anyone with my opinions(we all know what they're worth) I would have discussions/arguments with fellow guitarists about Hendrix , I love a few concert songs from Hendrix but most of his live music sounds to me like he stopped practicing. Dont get me wrong , I've heard versions live of Stone Free that were beyond incredible and to this day still give me goose bumps. But I always look for consistancy , technique and sparks of brilliance. Roy Clark would be a perfect example. Another would be Robin Trower. IMO his studio albums can be a bit boring but his live stuff is to die for.
I just don't see the point in talking crap about music. It's all so subjective and people get very emotionally attached to their favorites, so that's why you're getting a lot of pushback. I always had a lot more respect for musicians who could appreciate the positive things about players and styles they weren't necessarily fans of, as soon as they start sounding bitter it kinda kills the vibe for me. Music is love, unlike other topics like politics, just move on if you don't like it, there's no reason to bring all this negativity into it.
Q: How many guitars players do you need for changing a light bulb ?? A: At least 10, One to change the light bulb and 9 to say that they can do that better .
I think the problem with doing these videos is that people become so completely offended and enraged while forgetting or not really understanding the premise of the video. One person's opinion is just that "Their Opinion". If anyone else has such a great opinion, make your own channel and do your own videos. It's not the end of the world to listen to someone else's opinion, you won't be physically or psychologically injured by it. You may disagree but it's not necessary to berate someone for their own personal opinion. Would any of you want to be abused or berated for your personal opinions?????
I think the main problem is that making a video like that gives a lot of people the feeling that the creator tries to present a very subjective topic as something factual. Stuff like that isn't really well suited for youtube because posting a video here will always be a monologue without really creating a discussion despite having the comments. Really subjective topics like this one that should lead to a discussion of opinions are better suited for stuff like reddit or forums in general.
Totally respect your opinions on all of these guitarists dude. I will say, for what it's worth, I saw Slash at the Norva in Norfolk VA some years ago and his chops and overall playing were absolutely killer! Without his past gallon of Vodka a day habit he can definitely play his own stuff live now 😆. Cheers man; rock on!
Man... you gotta change your perspective on what a good musician actually is. There is no one better than Keith Richards at laying down the perfect guitar part for a song. He's written probably 50 of the greatest riffs of all time and co wrote some of the best music in rock n roll history. So what if his fingers don't move like Jeff beck... a true musicians greatest tool is their mind, not their fingers. Richards was a genius, and if you ask me, he was far under rated and often only celebrated for his drug taking abilities and not his incredible musical gift.
Watched your original video. You were pretty spot one. I will agree Jack White is the absolute worst. The only thing I disagree with is Zappa. I guess its a preference thing but when I heard Hot Rats I was blown away with his solos especially on Overnight Sensation. 9 out of 10 is not bad sir
To call Slash overrated with reference to his Appetite period means you haven't listened much to the recent stuff with myles Kennedy and the conspirators. Musicality and technicality has improved at least ten-fold. Beneath the Savage Sun ... a favorite of mine. Enjoy it
Well. I get what your doing. But you haven't mentioned Knopfler, Chuck Berry, Zz top (Gibbons?) Muddy Waters. Simply bcoz they aren't overrated. Lenny Kravitz? Van Halen.
Most overrated is Eric Clapton. Best compliment - never a wasted note. I heard this in describing George Harrison. Too many guys want to dominate with technical riffs but it’s nothing more than wasted notes.
Malmsteen offered a quote that I felt was on the money, as pertains to Steve Vai. This was in a magazine interview, and I’ve paraphrased it here: “Steve is an incredible talent as a musician. His ability as a guitar player is amazing. His playing isn’t very melodic, so I don’t enjoy a lot of his music.”
The only great White Stripes album is White Blood Cells. Learning how to play those songs makes you a competent guitar player and a better songwriter. A great place for relative newbies to start and build their skills to a certain level.
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You should've named your video..." Guitar players that aren't my cup of tea".....
....or backpedaling my first video.
No. He should name it "What I lack in my playing". He is ranking what makes him most jealous.
Why? Its funny that people argue and disagree...it is HIS opinion and so what😆😅
@@pushead75 so what? You’re the only one with a problem with people expressing opinions.
Yeah, I'm sure THAT would have stopped people from getting butthurt LMAO.
Frank might just be the most underrated guitarist
His Son too
Look up Frank Zappa on TH-cam. Top result is Cosmik Debris- 5.6 mil views. Look up Allan Holdsworth. Top result is Looking Glass in Frankfurt- 1 mil views. Holdsworth may not be the most underrated, but he definitely more underrated than Zappa.
@@pwhqngl0evzeg7z37 thats an opinion. As is mine. I just think its nonsense seeing zappa as overrated. Consistently going over peoples heads. His name isnt underrated. Its quite famous but as a guitarist, most people have no clue.
I saw him live. mind blowing
His guitar playing is overshadowed by his other abilities and persona. I agree he’s an underrated guitar player.
"You will always be criticized by someone doing less than you." - Denzel Washington
Exactly, this fool ain't even got his own shit. He a spectator.
Rest in peace dime.....
who is dime ?
@@eappieflag How’d you get here? Lol...JK. Dime or “Dimebag Darrell” is Darrell Abbott who was the guitarist for Pantera & Damage Plan.
@@studiosinger Soooo….how would you know he’s “unsaved” and if “God” is such a “forgiving God” then why would you speak out both sides of your mouth about “God”?
@@eappieflag Phil Anselmo on Dime th-cam.com/video/aIrdGkFpFM4/w-d-xo.html
DIMEBAG ❤️
When Dimebag burst upon the scene he made quite an impact. And rightfully so.
A lot of the established players praised his style and sound, guys like Vai and Lynch gave him props.
And here comes the interesting part; when he stated in interviews that he used solid state amps, he got criticised for the "solid state tone" in various guitar forums.
It would've been funny if he had never revealed that he did _not_ use tube amps. Because when people know what kind of gear is used, all of a sudden they start attributing certain qualities to a sound...😁
Steve Vai said in an interview about 15 years ago that Dime was one of the cleanest, most accurate players he’d ever seen, and he envied it. That says *something*..
@@machine-madedog5059 Yes, I remember that. Or maybe it was in another article, but in any case Vai had a lot of praise for Dime.
I actually had no idea Dime used solid state until I read this, but I still hold my opinion that I dont like his tone regardless of it being tube or SS.
@@Anthony-nk4ky i hear a lot of people say that they don’t like his tone, and at first i didn’t get it. i loved it! but now i can see in songs like Walk and whatnot that it’s pretty choice. i love it all the way. he’s my favorite player, but i get that it’s a pretty choice tone
Tom Morello's sound is a mix between a guitar tone and a turntable. He accomplishes this with varying levels of success.
Steve Vai has moved to playing a lot of straight ahead blues these days.
Ringo Starr is the MOST UNDERRATED drummer in Rock N Roll history.
John Lennon never said this
@@danbuckholz9228 You are correct! Good job!
The cool thing about Morello is that every sound you hear is coming out of his guitar. Even the stuff that sounds nothing like a guitar.
@@sloebone7399 yeah, out his guitar, through an effects rack into the amp
@@KepperKleen Which once again, makes him unique. I personally hate using pedals but he makes it work and its impressive.
RE: Joe Bonamassa - Want to hear something from him that's unique and inspiring? Listen to his lead playing on the first 2 songs on the album from his first band, Bloodline. He was 17 at the time. I personally think he's turned into a more standard blues player since then. But his playing on those Bloodline songs influenced me greatly.
You had dimebag on your other list. Dimebag was dedicated. I remember him saying he made a few new licks every day, and he had an entire catalog of licks he could recall for improvising. That's dedication. He wasn't in it for the money. The man loved guitars, heavy metal and partying. He shouldn't be on the list.
Amen!!!
plus his favourite bands were kiss and the beatles he wasnt some metal poser he was rocknroll to the bone
You are right
If he didnt suffer the most insane death in rock, no one would give a shot about Dimebag, just like when he was in damageplan. I dig the whole steel guitar through a screaming amp and hot PU thing he did. I do like some pantera songs but honestly, anyone who cant play that stuff, should probably face up to the fact that a guitar players life of mediocrity awaits. Honestly compare them all to the span of talent that exists between people like EVH, Alex Lifeson, john 5 (rocks last best hope) hell, angus young or the right reverend Billy Gibbons. I am the odd ball who thinks Led Zeppelin sucks ass except for a few songs that I really like. I never understood that mosh pit shit.
@@bobslydell806 my goodness do you sound stupid. Probably the same kinda guy who says "yeah but can he improv a 12 bar blues?"
If you need to comment about Keith Richards’ technical ability you simply just don’t understand what is Keith Richards.
Richard's is just a face. He actually doesn't play guitar much, and the Stones have always had another player on their albums. He just mimes during concert and videos. If you read any articles about the Stones. Keith quit playing about the time he discovered heroin. Mick then took reigns as leader and business guy. He's a mascot not a guitar player.
@@foshizol oh my, not only do you not know what Keith Richards is all about it appears that you don’t anything, is that what you kids call fake news
@@foshizol really ignorant comment
@@orbituary Keith still isn’t that good.
@@foshizol Wow...that's the stupidest fucking comment I've seen today...and I just watched a flat earther video. Mimes? Fucking moron...
Definitely appreciate the more nuanced opinions on this video. Makes me less pissed off!
The term 'overrated' describes value. In regards to youtube channels, it does not translate directly into number of subscribers/views. For example, if only 10 people watched and all of them had a positive opinion about a video that had mistakes in it, that video would be overrated. So no, saying that your youtube channel is overrated is not a compliment. You have used the title 'Top 10 Overrated Guitar Players' just to catch more views, which worked. I believe that 'Top 10 guitar players that I don't like' would not be as effective. You knew that people will not like that, but you just don't care, you'll say anything to boost the views. Sad.
Great comment, he only responds to people that aww baby him
Spot on comment
yeah this guy just really sucks
@@russmangus really surprised he hasn't gotten around to deleting this comment
It seems you weren't paying attention. "Top 10 Guitar Players that I don't like" would not be an appropriate title, since he likes some of these guitarists. Because it is possible to like someone and think they're overrated at the same time. Obviously.
The video is called overrated and you mention the definition of it but from my perspective you don't really talk about how they are overrated :)
He's talking from his point of view, many people don't think the same
It's all based on his personal taste while I dont necessarily agree with his picks I understand why he would think they are overrated he just doesn't like their style or the hype they have.
Yeah, in the previous video he literally just said "Jack White is the worst guitar player I've ever heard" which is not only OBVIOUS hyperbole, but also completely ignores WHY he thinks Jack White is overrated. There are probably some good arguments to be made for him being overrated, but he didn't make any of them.
I’ve seen slash 3 times in the past 7 years, and trust me.. he can fucking rip it on the guitar live and some stuff with Myles was way damn better live
I agree, Slash has great feel and instinct. He plays 100% from the heart.
I absolutely agree. He is a guitar monster, I saw them live 3 years ago with Myles and he was playing 11+ minute guitar solos all improv and it was so amazing. Plus all his solos on the albums that weren’t Guns N’ Roses make it so he literally can’t be overrated. He never stopped improving
Slash can’t play a single phrase without desynchronization, in a life time he never made a single bend to a pitch or decent vibrato.
@@Alex19II …😆🤣😂…. I’m sure Slash is hurt that you feel that way. Maybe all those millions of fans, his bank account, the number of women he’s had and the gold records on his wall will console him.
@@guitarcomet5 destroyed him 😂😂😂
My most over rated Guitarist...Jimmy Page. Now, don't misunderstand me, I love Led Zepplin. Listen to their music, still, almost daily...either by radio or playing it. He wrote a lot of iconic riffs. But, his music to me sounds better when someone else is playing the guitar.
The original video was breath of fresh air. Brutal honesty is needed now more than ever beyond just discussing music. Do more brutal honesty.
Honesty isn't calling Dimebag or Zappa "overrated".
A common trend with people who use the phrase "brutal honesty" don't seem to understand that it's not brutally honest to be objectively wrong and dodge people who are deservedly calling you out.
I actually thought the video in question was kind of a breath of fresh air amid a sea of people who all have the same opinions. Honesty is not really valued on TH-cam or in the social media world in general, it's more important to be funny and upbeat all the time and make sure you never express an opinion that is out of line with the current dogma, or if you're going to make any kind of a statement you have to make sure to crack a lot of jokes around it so that you can redirect any criticism that comes your way by saying you weren't serious.
The other side of this of course is that most of the people criticizing you on here probably can't play or read a note of music, and most of the big music TH-camrs don't have the balls to put their own music out there or express any original opinions.
You‘re getting more diplomatic as time goes by ;)
I‘m so glad everyone‘s got different tastes, nothing wrong with that.
A lot of the guys whose style I don‘t like are innovators, so they get their points from me for that and all the other players they‘ve influenced.
Personally, I don‘t get the Clapton and Santana adoration - yet - though they‘re still highly listenable and musical to my ears.
The first video was genius because it's pure low IQ clickbait. He probably made a thousand dollars on it. And to be fair, he was spot on about most of those guys and in a way that was kind ditsy for lack of a better word. Very few people are really good at the guitar and also at the same time really rich and famous for doing so. It's an insanely hard instrument to play because you can do so much on it, so the bar is high, and secondly, people have bad taste, and most people are put off by greatness (it's kind of alienating I guess).
Do a video of who you think are the top 10 greatest guitar players.
I enjoyed the original video more, as I felt it was more "in the moment" and what you really felt. This one feels (to me anyway) more like an apology, which you don't have or need to give to us. Your opinions and/or feelings are just as valid as ours, if not more so, being that you are a guitarist yourself. I, on the other hand, am not. I do have 3 guitars and I fiddle with them now and again but I suck and my short, stubby fingers were not made for narrow necks. Anyway... I loved that video and I did provide a comment or two. Still a bit curious why you felt the need to post this one, excepting the possibility that it might garner high views like that one did. Yes, I love a good rant, and I rant about musicians, singers, et al., all the time myself. And yes, sometimes a friend, acquaintance or co-worker will share some info (whether I want it or not) as to why I should have a less steadfast opinion. "Listen to this, watch this...". I get that all the time. Then again, I'm sort of known (in my circles) for my sarcasm and extreme criticality of certain musicians, actors, etc. Please consider sticking to your guns, regardless of what we (your viewers, friends, family, whatever) have to say. There will ALWAYS be people that disagree with you, and it will get worse as you gain notoriety. So, in my humble opinion, it was your honesty and off-the-cuff starkness that brought in all those views on that episode. No need to apologize, regardless of what sources may have influenced you to "dilute" or "enhance" your original post. I disagreed (in the other video) on the inclusion of Zappa, but I still loved the show. Keep it going!!!
Facts
@@zombert6937 ?
Tony Y. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Spot on.
Zombert is agreeing with you. They are saying everything you said is a fact and the way they also feel.
Its different when literally everyone is saying you're wrong. Simple as that.
Zappa was a genius, a good guitarist but a brilliant composer and visionary!
Love a lot of Zappa music. I’d say he was a brilliant leader. He hired and surrounded himself with incredible talent. Hot Rats, amazing album. Some other stuff seemed less musical and more geared towards entertainment or trying to get across a message.
To be honest a top 10 underrated guitarist list would be more interesting.
I also don't understand why people like Keith Richards, Jack White, or Kirk Hammett are on that list because nobody rates them highly. Saying Marty Friedman was overrated would make more sense because he's actually highly rated by most (to be clear, Friedman is absolutely not overrated).
You want some actually interesting overrated picks? Look no further than the old school boomer rock guitarists. Hendrix, Santana, Clapton, Page, etc. Take Page for example; anybody who's at least a little bit talented who practices hard, practises smart and practises consistently for approx. 8 months can master anything in the Zeppelin discography if they want.
Now let's look at the young Swedish guitar phenom, 19 years old, releases his first album about 4 years after Zeppelin's last; Yngwie Malmsteen. Someone practising the same way for 8 months would be nowhere close to being able to attempt his songs. There's not much time separating Page and Malmsteen, yet one is light years ahead and remains incredibly challenging to this day. You could make the same case for Van Halen, whose musicianship still endures after all these years unlike all those other boomer guitarists, despite being close in terms of era.
The boomer rockers were great then, and are still great songwriters. Great sources of inspiration? Sure. But great guitar players now? Nah.
I can't understand how anyone can listen to "The Sleep" by Pantera and not think Dimebag was amazing and had exceptional skill and tone. As for Vai, not huge on most of his 80's solo work, but I adore Alien Love Secrets.
I agree on the tone aspect, while I LOVE Dimes playing and he's a super influential guitar player on me his tone imo is hot garbage. It fits the overall sound of Pantera very well, but as a standalone tone I would never even attempt to attain it. As far as metal tones go, I'd rather have Mustaines Rust era rhythm tone or that killer Mesa Boogie tone Mark Morton and Willie Adler had in Ashes era LOG
@@Anthony-nk4ky LOL, Lamb of God, alright dude.
@@FretLevelMidnight it’s just a preference man, nobody made me the decider of what constitutes good tone
@@Anthony-nk4ky What kind of self-respecting guitar player judges another guitar player by their personal choice of guitar tone?
@@kremasag6612 I don’t judge another guitar player based on tone choice. Like I said, I love Dimes playing. I don’t like his tone. Doesn’t stop me from listening to and learning his songs
If you dont like listening to "non stop" Vai Shred Just listen to his whitesnake albums or dlr stuff. I cant listen to instrumental shred stuff either but I love those vai era albums. Amazing riffs and licks but still has a song structure and catchy choruses
Vais playing for king crimson now cause fripp gave him a blessing from belew
What can you say about Alan Holdsworth, Shawn Lane, Jeff Beck, & Guthrie Govan? You should make a video of the best electric guitarists that you admire & respect...
Sounds like an apology video 😂 it’s all good man! It’s your opinion. Just be careful making videos attacking other guitarists. People are going retaliate.
Dimebag overrated??? Cemetery gates, Walk, cowboys from hell, great southern treadkill, floods just to name a few of many some of the best riffs and solos. nobody has come close to being that original and that gifted far from overrated
Yup.. the dude doesn't know shitttttt!
Pantera was a good metal band DD wasn’t close to a great guitarist he just redid what others have done and covered it up with effects.
@@slowburnritual3055 you're making shit up. Blah blah blah.
@@kmh0073 but being from Arlington and around Pantera before they were known. I know a little something
@@slowburnritual3055 that doesn't mean anything you goofy person. I'm from Texas too and have listened to Pantera from the beginning. You don't have any extra knowledge that life long listers cant recognize. All it takes is your ears. Theres not a metal guitarist around that has ever produced anything comparable to Dime. He was an original.
Check out Zakk’s stuff in Ozzmosis. Beautiful phrasing man. Ozzmosis (in my opinion) is Ozzy’s most underrated album. His two notes per string runs are crazy in general. As far as is heavy use of pinch harmonics, you can thank Ozzy for that. He told him to sound that way in the middle of Zakk’s debut album, No Rest For the Wicked. If you want flack, do what you did last time. If not maybe throw in your input as far as seeing why people like them as well. End on a positive note. I like Alex Lifeson too, but not many say he’s overrated, so that was safe territory for you. I’m actually surprised you didn’t drop David Gilmore’s name. But then again, I don’t think many believe he’s overrated. Your opinion is your opinion and there’s nothing wrong with that. But maybe don’t just shit allover someone next time. I have this issue with plenty of music myself. BUT my amazing father said “When you don’t like someone’s music, find out why, and then find what you like about them.” Learning never stops if you know what’s good for you. The moment you say I’ve learned it all and you’re as good as it gets, congratulations, you have fulfilled your prophecy that you have nothing left to learn and you instantly stop progressing. Another one my father gave me was “It’s about the journey, not the destination”. You can learn something from anyone, even someone that’s never played music before they pick up their instrument for the first time. Every musician in the world has their influences. With the exact of Keith Richards, not a single one of these guys are up there talking about they’re the best there is or ever will be. So if you want to talk about people being overrated, maybe talk about the cocky guys that think they’re better than everyone (cough cough Richards). I think that would be a more honest approach in my opinion.
I disagree about Keef. He's a rythm guitar player mostly and for that he's arguably the best that ever was. He is praised for his creativity and unique style, not for his shredding skills or whatever. He wrote some of the most iconic riffs ever. That's something you cannot say about most of the others in this list.
He’s junk
@@Haydean06 probably the greatest riff writer in rock and roll history, but sure he’s junk 🤨
@@orbituary No, that title belongs to Iommi. The only thing special about Keith Richards is he uses different tunings.
@@Haydean06 Keith Richards has wrote far more successful, influential, well-known songs than Iommi lmao what are you talking about
@@orbituary Who cares? His playing still sucks.
I don’t think Zappa is overrated, he can improvise a great 7 minute guitar solo live without repeating licks or any of it. I don’t think Kirk should be in the list because 1) he’s actually good, 2) honestly no one ever praised Kirk for anything, internet is filled with people trolling him all the time.
Kurt was unique in his style but not a great guitarist at all.
I would agree with you if you had switched the points. But the moment you said #1, Your #2 became a lie.
Kirk is very basic, not a bad guitarist, just average, but the problem is that mainstream audiences do overrate guys like him and Slash.
For metalheads and music lovers in general, yeah we know he is not really standout, but mainstream audiences are bigger hence that overrating effect does ring true in this case.
I know I'm quite biased in this field but there are things that I still can't comprehend in Zappa's music
No way you call dimbag Darell overrated he is an amazing guitarist. He didn't become famous just because he was overrated. he worked his ass hard to be where he is today. Please respect the legend. Thank you.
Agree on Steve Vai. And I'd raise you with Yngwie Malmsteen. Both technically brilliant, probably unmatched, but their writing is....not good.
@@metamizol1606 That's a strange metric to judge someone's ability to judge poor music writing. I'm a prolific reader, and I know a crap book when I read one. I also know a crap film when I watch one; I'm not a writer or a director either.
But their writing is not what he is judging them on. Amazing musicians are not always good songwriters.
@@NmpK24 Yeah. Musicianship is a pretty broad umbrella to categorize things under. Cue the obligatory teenager with dictator profile picture thinking he knows better than others.
Good comeback video. The Keith comment threw me off last time the most because he is rhythm. But you cleared it up by saying he’s cool and wrote some off the best riffs and right you are. You can get tired of some of the guitarists that were on your list for sure but some where and are some pretty good and some great guitarist. I favor some of the more song writing guitarist with tasty licks and great song writing. I would say Guthrie Goven is one of the best guitarist today but he needs a singer songwriter or he will just stay around with the same material. That’s not a good thing. But opinions are like you know what and everyone has them lol. Being technically great is not good enough because it’s not music or has any staying power. They sound like practicing. Take Comfortably Numb as an example, very well written song, has great two solos in it and everyone remembers it. You can for sure play it more than once and many many have.
Hey, Nick, it is funny how at one moment in time we're not into a specific player but as time goes on we wind up actually digging that person's playing a whole lot more. I think it's safe to say it's all part of this wild ride we're on called life a s a guitarist/musician :) Keep rockin' the good roll!
It's totally a wild ride. Back and forth, but it's all good. It keeps things interesting and it's never boring :) Rck on, Brian!
@@irishRocker1 whatsamatta? Did you owe Dimebag money when he died and you're kissing his estate's ass?
@@OneGuitarist you forgot to add: Yngwie malmsteen
Zappa’s song, Apostrophe totally hits it out of the park. Try to guess who the bass player is.
Stuart Sutcliffe?
@@heyhonpuds , Jack Bruce.
I promise not to come in your mouth by Frank Zappa. I love it!
Read the info on Wikipedia about jack bruce controversy. Interesting.
I remember the original vid. We argued a bit about Kirk, lol! Steve Vai and I still just don’t connect, although I respect the hell outta him. Cool that you revisited your old vid with fresh ears (and eyes)!
Haha, I remember! These guys are all good. I always like listening to new new music, and picking up things along the way. Keeps things interesting :)
People can change their opinions, especially when presented with new “evidence”. I didn’t think your original video was extremely genuine anyways, it seemed like you were just throwing out what you didn’t care for about each guitarist you mentioned, with some humorous quips here and there. It seems you definitely dug deeper on those you mentioned, and at least were able to see what others loved so much about them, even if it’s not your thing.
Most overrated guitar player list and Ted Nugent is nowhere to be found?
For shame.
I never really hear anyone talk about Ted Nugent when it comes to best guitarists ever.
lol 😂
I’ve never heard anyone say, he’s an elite guitar player. Just a good guitar player with some good tunes.
@@aaronstarr8179 - Yeah Nugent has written some killer riffs.
My d friend drums with him at the detroit new years shows. he said he was a wasted talent
You mentioned STP and yeah those are some good muscians especially the guitar work. Great variety. Yeah man Dime Bag Darrelle was really good and im glad you said what you said about him. Reiterating your point and acknowledging his talent. Zakk is pretty dope too. He has a band Pride and Glory and his solo stuff too which is like southern rock which you may find interesting I think. F Metallica and especially Hammett. I like that you made the original video in the first place. Definitely got an interesting dialogue going. Keep it up.
To be honest, I liked the previous video more even I totally disagree with all the names in it. This one sounds conservative and feels that you are trying to protect something or someone.
I have some points and questions. It would be really nice if you consider reading them and maybe answering them.
1. How come you were rating all these people without knowing their work? As you mentioned several times, you have known these guys better thanks to friends and people who introduced you to more interesting works of them since the previous video.
2. How come your Pantera fan friend never talked with you about cemetery gates when it was one of their most popular songs and most aired?
3. About Steve Vai and his complex music. Just because something isn't pleasant to your ears or you can not constantly listen to, doesn't mean it is Overrated. It just you don't like it.
4. This is somehow related to the previous one. I don't believe that there is any reason to rate anyone in music or any type of entertainment (even the cheapest and cheesiest productions). It is just a matter of personal preferences and taste! You may like it and will listen to it, otherwise millions of other bands/artists are out there waiting to be discovered and probably more joy and fun bringing for you with listening to their music.
Anyway, I like your videos because it is always cool to have different opinions and also dare to talk about your opinions! Thumbs up to that! 🍺
The list still sucks lol
this list is underrated
can you imagine what life would be like it people could tell you what food to like? holy shit, I would starve to death
People do do that and you're fine my guy. No need to piss yourself over this vid lol.
I feel the same about Vai, amazing guitarist but I can’t listen to the guitar gymnastics for too long
I love Zakk's playing all throughout his Pride & Glory album.
The Book of Shadows albums are also great
That Pride & Glory album is the best thing Zakk's done imo. Shame it only lasted for one album.
@@SuperStrik9
I cannot disagree. 👍
Zakk is a filter... ppl that doesn't put attention on details don't understand him... this guy said that all solos sounds the same on the first album with ozzy but on the same note on that very first album with ozzy Zakk plays a southern rock style solo on I don't wann change the world which is completely different from the other solos like no more tears and SOS.. He just doesn't understand the guys he is naming.... and this video is living proof.. as soonest he started putting attention to Dimebag he realize how stupid was to put the great dime on the previous list, and that's how it is with almost every guitar player on the list... Kirk Hammett writes memorable solos he is a great writer his riffs and solos are well known world wylde.. that's also what makes Slash good, and Keith Richard's is a blues player so is about the feeling.
Guys just doesn't know them well
Tone aside..whats amazing about DD is that he can play a super interesting and memorable solo without rhythm guitars backing him up. Not many can do that. I'll come back to this comment with examples.
No guitarist sounded like Zappa. His oeuvre was weird, complex, eclectic, dADaesque, often puerile, sometimes inspired, sometimes god-awful, but as a guitarist, I'll take his playing on "Hot Rats", still my favorite Zappa album, still one of my favorite albums, period; I enjoy his solos (and songs) as much now as I did in 1969. On "Hot Rats", he (mostly) took a vacation from his ubiquitous out-of-left-field finger-in-your-eye goofball stuff and, musically, played it straight up.
These videos are entertaining to me. I couldn’t disagree more with some (dime) but i think it’s fun to watch. 🤙🏼
Completely agree about Tom Morello and Bonamassa. Was really weirded out past couple years when Bonamass was plastered all over the place. Hammett, IMO, doesn't get the credit he deserves, maybe not technically but definitely when it comes to influence and being a legend. He's heavily influenced by Hendrix, hence the wah and the blues fusion. Zappa and Vai are linked, as you already know. It took me a lifetime to "get it" with Zappa, but it just clicked one day - guy was a genius. If you dig one you'll likely dig the other. With Vai, his best album, IMO, is Flex-Able...which happens to have the most Zappa influence, ha! Keith is Keith, dude is a legend. What sounds "simple" to most people, especially guitar players, is not - the guy is a song writing genius and I doubt most could pull off what he does with ease. Jack White...I have never heard of anyone who considers him a great guitar player? Slash agree. But what he accomplished at the age he accomplished it is just mind blowing. I think you should be more impressed with whoever produced/engineered that album Vs his skill, lol. Zakk, agree.
I did this a few years ago, and of course your opinions change over time. I appreciate Joe more now. Tom's done some interesting music as well. I've always liked Kirk, and he seems like a super cool guy. I love the rock/blues style but I think it seemed like an odd fit for a speed metal band, but that's also what made them sound like "Metallica".
I do like some Zappa stuff for sure, I just can't listen to it for long and I have to be in a mood for it. At times it seems he did things "odd" just as a gratuitous way to be "odd". Joe's Garage is great, no doubt. Vai's also great, and I wore out more than a few of his cassettes back in the day. But he's another I need to be in a mood for, and that's not often.
Keith is great, simple but great. He fits the band very well which is what the goal is anyway. And I've always loved The Stones. Slash ia great in the studio but it bugged me that he could never pull it off live for a long time, so that makes it less impressive. He's changed and gotten more consistent over the years, which is good to see.
Thanks for the thoughts, man! Good stuff! Part of the reason I did this a few years back was to be proven wrong and learn more about these guys, which did happen and kind of what I hoped for! All good stuff. :)
@@OneGuitarist Just wanted to add that I would include Jim Root (Slipknot) on the list of overrated guitarists. I totally do not get the praise he gets but maybe I'm missing something.
@@OneGuitarist yeah I love Bonamassa. He takes it to the next level when he plays live which I find refreshing. But i'm just a bedroom player and it's funny how there are those players who are technically GREAT, but I just can't listen to them. Vai, Malmsteen, etc... my old guitar instructor would call them guitar "athletes" lol. I respect Clapton but can't listen to him all day. Prob only two guitarist I could listen to all day and that is Gilmour and Knopfler :) peace
@@johnlstubbs3173 Yep, totally get you there. And we all go back and forth: you get burned out on this, start listening to that, go back to older things, etc. Keeps things interesting :). Have a great day, John!
It was (original clip) and is just someone's opinion. Worth as much as everyone else. I do not understand why so much hatred (original clip). It should be just the opposite, it's always great fun to hear other people's honest opinions about famous guitarists. Especially with a little more argument as in this clip.
We are all aware that it's possible to find (thank you TH-cam) if not thousands of anonymous players who are much better than "all these great" famous players (regardless of the instrument). Most musicians from these similar lists have themselves acknowledged and accepted it a long time ago ... Why don't you, all haters?
Jack White is the only one I agree with you on. The other ones just make no sense whatsoever. You might want to try to expand your palette a bit more.
Frank had a specialized style of playing a different solo on every show he made, that does probably mean he did not hone his skills to record the tightest albums. But never the less an admirable skill that few outside jazz dedicates to.
But I understand other people have different opinions then me, I have no technical music understanding I just feel it. Hell I even have to much add to hold a beat for more then 4 seconds anyway so, yeah....
I don't know why you got so many dislikes on both videos. I haven't seen you outright hate on any of them. You praise every single player and you just give valid reasons on why you think there overrated as a whole. Most probably just saw overrated and seen a guitar player they loved and took it to heart. Good video 👍
Thanks! And I also wondered why so many people got offended like I said I hate these guys or they suck. I like them all, well most :).
@@OneGuitarist It's fanboy culture lol. I used to be like these idiots once... I grew up though. Sadly some people don't grow out of this mind set.
That's how some folks are though sadly... "If you don't like what I like exactly how I like it then FUCK YOU" is how they act. Completely childish...
dimebags thing was he introduced unorthodox, weird single note riffs to mainstream metal. weird bendy notes, single string riffs going up and down the fret board. the intro to Revolution my name is WEIRD if you think about it. the tone IS uhm...interesting lol! not a fan and alot bad bands took that tone
“I had Dime on my overrated list despite not really being exposed to Pantera except for b-sides and obscure songs. I also I didn’t like the lyrics, and held that against him too. Then I pulled my head out and actually listened and realized he’s pretty good.”
FTFY, DA
I love your Pantera history. Your friend was the Pantera hipster friend who loved songs that weren't the popular songs that the posers liked. Haha!! Great update. Thanks man.
I agree with 80% of your list which surprised me. I could probably think of better candidates than Bonamassa and Slash but hey, it's subjective and all in good fun right? I'll definitely be checking out more from your channel.
off topic, and feel free to roast me for what might be a stupid question. Eddie's Brown Sound and I guess subsequent tones.......to do his stupid fast right hand picking, where he comes up at the strings from below and pivots with his wrist.....he must be using a light / thin pick because there is no way to get pick flex out of a 1mm Jim Dunlop or Medium Fender, right....? But then how to get a monster tone with a flimsy pick; is that just simply tons of gain in the amp?
I agree that in order to be overrated, you first have to be super popular. Another way to say it might be whatever works.
you have Dimebag and Kirk on here as overrated you kidding me they are 2 of the very best RIP DIMEBAG i am just glad you didn't put Eddie Van Halen or Jim or Mick from SLIPKNOT or James from Metallica on this list but DIMEBAG AND KIRK that's a joke but it's your choice who to like but they are not overrated much respect to you as I am a metal and Slipknot fan 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
This is such a interesting subject. Especially among people who can’t take anyone disagreeing with them.
It's funny because I also did an Underrated one, and that didn't get nearly the views that this one got. Interesting to see which one was far more popular.
@@OneGuitarist That does not come as a surprise to anyone.
Pretty cool video try out Pride and Glory. It's Zakk Wylde before BLS.
I’ll check it out for sure. Are there any BLS songs you’d recommend? I’ve liked most of what I’ve heard.
But how is Steve Vai overrated? He is extremely creative and influential.
he said he didnt even listen to pantera and said dimebag was overrated... Steve Vai is not overrated at all, one of the best guitarists
Thanks OG. Most of the millions aspiring guitarists/musicians out there, no matter how highly skilled/talented, are lucky to even get to peek over that wall toward the level success of most of these named have gotten to. Even for the musicians or bands I don't personally care for, I kind of have to respect their success, I think, even if I believe it was only (or partly) them being in the right place at the right time. I haven't watched a lot of your posts, but I have to think you been around long enough this mission impossible music biz to generally feel that way, too. No?
There not over rated. Those guys can write hooks and real songs. It’s not just mindless shredding. That’s what counts to me. There all exceptional in there own way and there styles of playing fit there genre. If you can write timeless pieces of music you can’t even be rated on a scale it’s just iconic. If you wanna study individual technique each excels in what they do and what counts is it fits the music perfectly.
Being a great songwriter is separate from being a great guitar player. Being a great guitar player requires great mastery over the instrument, as well as great musicality.
“Overrated” is not the same as “I don’t like.”
On that list, I love Keith Richards and Frank Zappa. The others I haven't heard or don't care for. Barney Kessel is my favourite guitarist if I had to pick one.
(But I respect all musical talent - just don't like metal or neo-prog.)
Sounds like you're backing off every opinion you voiced before.
Hey since I'm one of your first comments I have a question for you : I wanna buy the Gretsch G230T and takeout the filtertron "humbucker" pickups and replace them with zak wyldes EMG 81/85 PUs I'm new to the guitar scene yet I realize the gretsch wouldn't be a typical guitar to have those kind of pickups in them but thats exactly why I wanna do it so what do you think? And furthermore know anyone that will install them?
It cracks me up the way people pile onto the comments not realising that in doing so it confirms the success of your business model, as in 'generate heat marketing'.
So who is the guitarist not ‘overrated’ for you? And if you don’t mind can you play one of their songs and please choose the hard one so I can be agree with your own opinion ...
Wowww you started with a small channel and now ur channel is so small and underrated
I mean, Morello is about far more than riffs or anything like that. He's a composer from the top of the headstock to the vibration of the air waves going into your eardrums. Anything between those two points is fair game for Morello.
I agreed with you on everything from the previous video, I disagree only on Dime because I believe he had an incredible technique and creativity as well as a huge sound ... I saw him in Italy in the early nineties and I was impressed by his ability to control sound and technical mastery. He inserted both colours and elements of jazz chords, his riffs were a mixture of all this, he surprised you with this ability to put unexpected things in a genre like metal. For me he's a metal school leader and not only this
Dime has some psychotic picking techniques too. Go check out Slaughtered. The chuggy riff at the end is super crazy picking. There is also a crazy ass groove riff in This Love. It seems like you’re taking your approach differently now. Good job man. 👍
WAIT!! you telling me...YOU NEVER HEARD CEMETERY GATES WHEN YOU MADE THAT LAST VIDEO?????
WHERE WERE YOU??? UNDER A ROCK???
As of today.. 500k views... 30k thumb downs, only 5k thumbs up. WOW! I get what you're saying. There's just so many factors, though. From the standpoint of the players, the fact we are even talking about them is significant. Secondly, this concept of "value" is obviously subjective. Do you think Bach was overrated? Was Van Gogh overrated? They were supremely underrated in their time, for sure... only to be discovered after their death. If Vai tires your ear, would you stand to hear Chopin for more than 5 minutes? Overall, good follow-up vid!
Prob should've just done a top 10 that you love the most. This way it doesn't come off like you're just dismissing some legitimate guitar legends
It's difficult not to get triggered when these ratings come out. But I get it.I also don't mean to trigger anyone with my opinions(we all know what they're worth) I would have discussions/arguments with fellow guitarists about Hendrix , I love a few concert songs from Hendrix but most of his live music sounds to me like he stopped practicing. Dont get me wrong , I've heard versions live of Stone Free that were beyond incredible and to this day still give me goose bumps. But I always look for consistancy , technique and sparks of brilliance. Roy Clark would be a perfect example. Another would be Robin Trower. IMO his studio albums can be a bit boring but his live stuff is to die for.
The stuff vai did with for was good , check out the skyscraper album
With dlr , Dave Lee Roth . Sorry I blame the beer 😂
Every guitar player is unique in their own way. Every individual has their personal expression translated though own sounds!
I just don't see the point in talking crap about music. It's all so subjective and people get very emotionally attached to their favorites, so that's why you're getting a lot of pushback.
I always had a lot more respect for musicians who could appreciate the positive things about players and styles they weren't necessarily fans of, as soon as they start sounding bitter it kinda kills the vibe for me. Music is love, unlike other topics like politics, just move on if you don't like it, there's no reason to bring all this negativity into it.
Q: How many guitars players do you need for changing a light bulb ??
A: At least 10, One to change the light bulb and 9 to say that they can do that better .
I thought I’d shit on your list, but it was pretty accurate. Either player from Metallica would be a good addition.
Who are some current favorites of yours? Anything fun you’re working on?
I think the problem with doing these videos is that people become so completely offended and enraged while forgetting or not really understanding the premise of the video. One person's opinion is just that "Their Opinion". If anyone else has such a great opinion, make your own channel and do your own videos. It's not the end of the world to listen to someone else's opinion, you won't be physically or psychologically injured by it. You may disagree but it's not necessary to berate someone for their own personal opinion. Would any of you want to be abused or berated for your personal opinions?????
I think the main problem is that making a video like that gives a lot of people the feeling that the creator tries to present a very subjective topic as something factual. Stuff like that isn't really well suited for youtube because posting a video here will always be a monologue without really creating a discussion despite having the comments. Really subjective topics like this one that should lead to a discussion of opinions are better suited for stuff like reddit or forums in general.
You sound insane, I can agree on a few of the players, but some of these dudes are the best ever
Totally respect your opinions on all of these guitarists dude. I will say, for what it's worth, I saw Slash at the Norva in Norfolk VA some years ago and his chops and overall playing were absolutely killer! Without his past gallon of Vodka a day habit he can definitely play his own stuff live now 😆. Cheers man; rock on!
Slash is absolutely incredible live now. His work with Myles Kennedy is top notch IMO. His live solos are fantastic.
Have a drink everytime he says, "cool guy".
Man... you gotta change your perspective on what a good musician actually is. There is no one better than Keith Richards at laying down the perfect guitar part for a song. He's written probably 50 of the greatest riffs of all time and co wrote some of the best music in rock n roll history. So what if his fingers don't move like Jeff beck... a true musicians greatest tool is their mind, not their fingers. Richards was a genius, and if you ask me, he was far under rated and often only celebrated for his drug taking abilities and not his incredible musical gift.
Watched your original video. You were pretty spot one. I will agree Jack White is the absolute worst. The only thing I disagree with is Zappa. I guess its a preference thing but when I heard Hot Rats I was blown away with his solos especially on Overnight Sensation. 9 out of 10 is not bad sir
Dude, just, what the fuck.
Alice in chains over Pantera? What the fuckkkkk
First list was spot on, don’t back pedal now , stick to your guns
To call Slash overrated with reference to his Appetite period means you haven't listened much to the recent stuff with myles Kennedy and the conspirators. Musicality and technicality has improved at least ten-fold. Beneath the Savage Sun ... a favorite of mine. Enjoy it
Well. I get what your doing. But you haven't mentioned Knopfler, Chuck Berry, Zz top (Gibbons?) Muddy Waters. Simply bcoz they aren't overrated. Lenny Kravitz? Van Halen.
So who are your top ten guitar players in the world? P.S. my most overrated guitar player is the Edge in U2.
Most overrated is Eric Clapton.
Best compliment - never a wasted note. I heard this in describing George Harrison.
Too many guys want to dominate with technical riffs but it’s nothing more than wasted notes.
Leave it to the guy with a famous composer's profile picture to comment about "wasted notes".
Never moved past Passion and Warfare with Vai...
I like the conversation of subjective discussion. Interesting list!
I’m thinking your first video on the subject was what you really felt.
Seems as though he got enough hate to suddenly change his mind but also never really changed his mind lol
Malmsteen offered a quote that I felt was on the money, as pertains to Steve Vai. This was in a magazine interview, and I’ve paraphrased it here:
“Steve is an incredible talent as a musician. His ability as a guitar player is amazing. His playing isn’t very melodic, so I don’t enjoy a lot of his music.”
The only great White Stripes album is White Blood Cells. Learning how to play those songs makes you a competent guitar player and a better songwriter. A great place for relative newbies to start and build their skills to a certain level.