2021 KTM 1290 Super Adventure | Is It Really That Good?? 🤔
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- I've been riding the new 2021 KTM 1290 Super Adventure for the last week. This bike seems to get rave reviews so I had to try one for myself. Does it really warrant all the hype??
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Funny that people talking about the look, like its not good, I absolutely adore the look of any new bigger KTM
A very personal subjective thing.
Looks.
Innit.
Me?
Hate the things to look at intensely, along with 90% of modern bikes, could never own one just from the looks.
However, i appreciate the tech involved, and that outstanding lump of an engine.
Possibly the best v twin engine in existence... for a long time now...
I love the look of it too - massive improvement on the old one and lets be honest the GS isn't exactly a conventional beauty!
I like the bike for it's price but think it's ugly, color scheme and plastics. The GS looks like a raptor bird in flight but I don't like the price and BMW maintenance and repair is expensive.
do you see the front part of the bike?) new headlight is so fuck*** ugly
@@TIB1973 thats just the beak isn't it?
The more reviews of this bike I see the more it’s growing on me. I have a 17 plate GT and was waiting to see what the new one is going to be like, but this is tempting, it’s just the 19inch front wheel. Cracking review video
Same here. That 19" wheel limits the street sporty rubber for me. Otherwise, about perfect!
No one ever seems to mention the torque! 106lb at 6k revs for the GS 1250. Makes a big difference on the road. A gushing review and I want a ride on the KTM! Hopefully get one soon. Great review.
It's BIG and Orange...and it gets lots of looks. I let a friend take a short ride on my 1290 SAS recently. They ride sports bikes (ZX10). They were properly blown away. It looks like a massive beast, but the balance is so good you can hoon around on it at ridiculous velocity.
Awesome review , really looking forward to the GT review
First review iv seen of this bike that actually shows what the tft and digital functionality is like. Everyone else just glossed over it. More of this please, latest tech is what keeps a lot of us interested in bikes.
Thanks Kamran, it's a great part of the bike so thought I better cover it 👍
At first looks aren't so appealing but after you show us all it's features it starts to look really nice. I could live with it.
For me it's the best bike of 2021!
Yup you could be right Sku 👍
Great review, watched it twice. Seriously considering changing my 1250 for one.
Horse-looks and ballbag fuel tanks.... I’m sold! Ahahahah! Brilliant. 😂🤣👍
I would love to see a Ktm 890 Gt with all that tech.
Got a 2016 1290 Superduke GT which I bought new, rode the 2020 SDR last year and can't wait for the 2022 GT with the amazing new engine. Rode a Multistrada V4 recently and it left me completely underwhelmed.
Yes it isBest adventure bike in the world just received mine can’t believe how good it is
KTM has great bikes, the best thing about my 1190 is that is light and very malleable, especially in urban areas, however, don't expect the same quality of materials of BMW or a Honda, KTM was the only bike I have owned that gets rusty with time even if they are kept in garages, but if you don't mind you that all the rest is very good.
A really thorough review and summed up very well Mr Chops ! 2021 has given us some excellent bikes and euro 5 bike's electronics really do help you now, smoother engine, seamless rider aids etc I do like the KTM's graphics to show you what you're altering, dead easy.
I’ve had the SA-R 1290 past 4 years … wouldn’t say agricultural at all. In fact, always impressed as to how it can hold a fixed speed by throttle position. And fast … Jesus !
Never had dive problems.
Only criticism - it’s never liked neutral.
Overall 9.5/10.
I’m sure this new one is an improvement, but previous one, ludicrously good (with a bigger TFT by the looks of it.)
So if strapped for cash, pick up used previous model - I absolutely guarantee you will not be disappointed … and save £££.
Oh man, I wish the folks at Triumph are watching this and take a good look at how the menus should be :D I really like the fact that you can customize what is shown on the display, I wish my Speed Triple had that too
Does make me smile review includes how much food you can fit under the seat .....
Great review as ever
Haha thanks 👍😆
Just going to pick up my new 2022 Super Adventure S. I have a 1290 Superduke R and a BMW R1200 GSA. This bike Melds the two into an all purpose bike. Nice slice of hooligan power and the comfort of an adventure bike. Selling both to get my new bike.
Wow great collection 👏
Hope the GT and R get all this tech, will give some great options and alternatives to suit every rider 👍
I'll be taken one of those out mr chops, great review 👍
A really thorough review and summed up very well Mr Chops, many thanks, best regards from Catalonia!
I'd never own one but I'd pcp one for the length of the warranty. These machines are expensive to fix.Nice bike mind.
The bike looks so odd it stands out, it doesn’t look boring.
I agree about the dust bin trying to be an end can, the Tuono had the same problem, but the dealers did deals and I bought mine new (from Wheels) with an akra can thrown in.
What’ are the seat heights available Chopsie, we’re not all strapping 6ft + like yourself.
Great video, now tell KTM to give a no cost Akra up grade if requested and watch this semi rise to the occasion !
Wow......another Chops video review. The KTM 1290 super scrotum adventure! Time for a coffee and biscuits and my day is complete.
Great work Chops 👍😊
Only a mother could love it
I've got a long face and do like the review you gave because the bicycle looks just like me it's something to do with genetics my dad was a horse and at bedtime for some reason unknown to me my wife calls me horseman which reminds me I must go to asda today and buy some pyjamas.
As always choperoo I was glued to the screen soaking up your review what a fantastic bike and all that excellence £16,000.00 good value for the full package especially as you say for a one bike person.
Keep them coming your doing a great job say hello to the G-man and Mavis.
Haha made me chuckle Colin
I picked mine up last Friday. Sunday I took it out for a four hour ride on the Spanish twisties and autopisa. At this point I'm delighted with the bike. It seems to do everything well. If I have any complaint it's only that the engine tends to rattle a bit at lower speeds.
Great bike, too big for me but the real issue that can’t be tested on Journo reviews is long term reliability, only time will...
If you play your cards right, there'll be some good deals to be had on low mileage previous models over the next few months.
Never buy a new KTM, wait 10 months and get 4k off a pre reg.
Great video Mr Chops, had me in stitches in parts. Totally agree with you. I felt the same on my ride.
Haha thanks matey 👍
Always cool too see different opinions. I have the new 1250 GSA and I just tried the new super adventure for a week to finally see what bike is better in my opinion. I did ride sportbikes before cbr1000 s1000r and s1000rr. And I’m 32 so I was surprised about the GSA. Cuz I haven’t changed my riding stile. It’s just more comfortable.
The week with the ktm was fun. But I would never change my GSA for the KTM. I had a couple of electronic fails with the bike. So I had to stop turn off the bike and start it up again. The quality is no way near BMW and I think the BMW looks better.
The KTM has more adjustable riding modes but I don’t really think it’s needed. The ones the GSA has are good. The KTMs power is a bit better but I do not miss power when I ride the GSA. It has really good torque. And I think the BMW is easier to handle/ride.
The KTM can make the ride harder so it feels a bit more sporty and the quick shifter down is better. It is a good bike but I think the BMW is better. And in Norway where I’m from. If you spec up the KTM it’s 3300 euros more then the 1250GSA.
But some don’t like the looks of the GSA or the image of being a old mans bike. But for me it’s the perfect bike.
SAS wins with excitement/engagement fact compared to the GS, and I've had bikes from both brands over the years.
Sounds like a brilliant bike, but if I were going for a new adventure bike, I'd probably choose a GS; The GS is still quick enough, looks better, probably more reliable and you cant beat the bmw dealer network.
Your points are very good but many will want to be different and buy a 1290 because its not a GS
That’s why I bought my gs - it’s proven and it looks just beautiful!
@@arvisgri7491 in the eye of the beholder I suppose
@@brucecutts8841 really is a preference I suppose. I also like the 2021 1290 SAR, but the old one just didn’t appeal to me. Plus resale of bmw is much higher, so that’s a benefit as well.
The only downside that i don’t like about the Gs is the old tractor gearbox. It should be improved for better shift feel, as it’s very agricultural.
Appreciate your views,thks a mill.Cheers.
Would like to buy this beast now , but there's two reasons holding me back. The price is still to high for my wallet and the second is that I'm a bit concerned when reading people having issues with relatively new KTM bikes. I don't expect KTM beeing reliable like japanese brands but when you pay 20000 € for a new bike, you don't want headache in short amount of time.
After 40 years with Honda and Yamaha, I switched to KTM because the quality of the Japanese bikes had deteriorated considerably. My KTM 1290 SAS has been running for 20,000 kilometers in 3 years without any problems. My friend's 1300 GS has already had its 4th recall within 10 months. So: try it out!
Hoping KTM builds all the new Superduke upgrades with these electronics into the next Superduke GT and THAT will be my next bike.
I like the cruise control on my 1290 SAS. Use it frequently on dual carriageways. Forget adaptive cruise control. Slowing down all the time - would drive me nuts.
I love everything about the KTM Adventure bike.cant wait to get one.cheers from Australia
Top bike
Top review
Bloody hell! There goes my dream retirement bike down the gurgler. Bye bye BMW GSA, hello KTM SAS. Brilliant review as usual brother, but I will name and blame you when my wife berates me for wasting money on a BMW T-shirt!! Ah well, I can always use a good rag in the garage.G'day from Oz brother.
Great review chopsy also that’s a Lulvy jacket
Looking forward to looking the multistrada review, keep it coming
i loved this video. i have 390, this is my dream monster. thanks for the video🖐
Arh am I going to have to chop my old version in ? 🤔 nice vid chops 👍
Thanks Chops for the nice review as always
I would like to see how the seating position and overall comfort compares to the new Multistrada
Take care
Marcelo
SDR gets raves reviews
SAS gets raves reviews
GT ... it better be as good as I'm ready to upgrade my current GT. All the signs are good!
Yes very excited for the GT! Should be cracking I think 👍
G'day Mr Chops. Great video, great bike. To much information, i'm lost.
Haha, I said it was a quick overview 😆
Had the 1190 Adventure a few years ago. Even this was a blast. That engine had brilliant power and torque and was still fine on fuel consumption. It was real sporty to drive... And even this had heated seats and stuff. Only miss points were the e suspension.. It was too low in damping with full load / real sport drive. And the windscreen noises were so annoying... Had a lot of experiments to do... Ad the end a small mra spoiler lip was the solution :). Drove over 3000km through Europe with my wife with the 1190. Good times. Cruise control would be a nice add on on nearly every bike.. BTW chops : when will you test the royal Enfield 650 twins :)?
Can't see past the fact it's BMW money with dirt bike treatment at the dealer
Fantastic review as always, chopsy! I'm in the US so it might be different but isn't a GS gonna run you at least 3 to 5k USD more? I'll take the SAS every time...
Yes top spec GS is about £18.5 so more expensive 👍
Another cracking review. Probably to tall for a shorty like me. A little disappointed we didnt have a yeeeeeee ha today. Keep um come LC.
Haha leaving those for Bruce! 😆
Great review Chops.
With the anti dive fork system, what if you hit a bump when braking hard?
Nothing, still plenty of travel there to absorb it. Just make the preload firm 👍
Great review Chopsy. Would love this bike, but KTM need to grow their dealer network before I buy another one of their bikes.
That really is a face only a mother could love!
Great review. Like you I'm not ready for an adventure bike but you can't help but appreciate the tech. Stand out moment, pun intended, "It's got a semi on.....& so have I!" Worthy of a genuine lol!
Haha thanks buddy 😄👍
Great looking bike. fantastic review as always Mr Chops
Hooray Chops!!!!! something thats better than a GS now thats not gonna go down well! Even Bruce liked it alot
Just change the tyres and it would be loads better??
Great video👍👍
Yes tyre change would give you more confidence in the corners, it's been cold of course and couple of times it's slipped or stepped out on me. Little warning signs to slow down haha 😄
Cracking bit of kit, but like you, I’m not ready to give up on the more sports orientated side of things. Once I’m 60, then maybe👴🏼👍🏽...
Great vid as always Mr chops
That bike is top notch as you showed,all that tech will keep you entertained for hours.
Not my cup of tea yet but maybe in a few years lol 😆
All the best to you buddy 👍
Thanks Michael 👍
All that tech and the horn still sounds like a Vespa.😂
hi Chops! another great video! it seems like you enjoyed this more than the tuono and sdr. I demoed new gt, and new tuono factory. both of them did't meet my expectations. tuono is not an option anymore until they put new block in it. gt is another story, it was like lacking power comparing to older sas I demoed 2 years ago. now eagerly waiting the new sas for demo. I just want the fan factor. I hope to not disappoint with the handling
Great vid mr chops love all the tec :)
Great bike, I'll consider it in about 4 years when it's available on the used market. lol Right now I'm shopping some older 1290 Super Adventures instead. My wallet can only go so far.
Superb bike and review thankyou Mr Chops 👍
Thanks Paul 👍
Superb video 👌
IMO when any product is called "another product beater" then probably it's not. Only when the product stands out as in its own specs area it would be a success.
Great review~ how was the 1290s heat management? Did it throw a lot of heat to your legs. It seems that most modern bikes with their huge catalytic converters are causing a lot of heat problems & they way around it is to put a full exhaust system that deletes the cat. Arrow seems to be the leader in KTM exhausts along with Akrapovic
From what I remember no problems at all with heat. 👍
I haven't watched the vid yet. Anyway I already have ordered the bike (owned the previous model). I can tell you, I have been waiting for your review. Now, I'm ready to enjoy the watch.
Hehe enjoy 😉
Just got myself a 2017 Super Adventure - it's absolutely bonkers.
Just got myself a 23 Super Adventure, it's still absolutely bonkers.
I had one for one year and did not really enjoyed it…
It‘s a blast to ride with a great performance but for me it was to much tech…
I didnt like the TFT Screen and all of the tech which helps you with riding.
I changed it for a BMW R nineT and the feeling of a heritage „metal“ bike instead of a techno plastic bomber (like the KTM) is much more satisfiying for me.
Yeah, the BMW is slower and not as agile. The engine is not as powerful and efficent.
But it‘s looks and the feeling of such a reduced bike is much enjoyable for me…
So yeah, better is not always better ;-)
Great review matey 👏🏻
Thanks buddy 👍
I really want the radar cruise on my next bike and think I will wait for the new SDR GT as you said. R1250GS has 136HP and 143nm of torque
Yeah thought it might be a bit more powerful than that. But also fair bit heavier 👍
@@LambChopRides Your comment about the weight made me look it up lol. SAS 220KGS Dry/ R1250GS 249KGS Wet so would work out pretty much the same? Can't compare the GSA to this really. I am surprised BMW haven't added radar cruise to the GS/GSA yet
OK I stand corrected 👍 yeah I think next year it will for sure
Interesting that all the extra features are Built in to the bike and that a code unlocks them.
There’s a concern the the industry in general may eventually have these as an ongoing subscription, say X pounds or dollars a month to keep them active. BMW in the US is apparently doing this with heated seats in some of its cars.
Hope this malaise doesn’t infect the motorcycle world.
my heart said buy it but my wallet said no 😭🏍️
Yes happens alot that! More or less every bike I ride!
@@LambChopRides just keep giving us content atleast we can dream on riding those beast chopsy! 😁
Will do 😁
@@LambChopRides Difference is you actually follow through and end up buying it! lol. You must be getting better because you still don't have a SDR!
“And so have I”…. Classic
you make me fall in love with every bike chops! The future is finally here with proper working electronics!
Hello Chopsy
Nice review as always 💪 I am about to swap my 2018 SAS for the 2021 model and your findings have been very helpful!
I also like the motorjacket you are wearing in this video
Could you inform be about this garment?
Thx and greetings from the 🇳🇱 👋
It's an Ogio Flight Vest 👍
Great review! Re the KTM needing sportier tyres, Dunlop make the SportSmart TT in a 19 inch front. With a set of those on I imagine this would be a proper tool on twisty roads or even the track.
Thanks Nick, yes if I bought one I would probably swap the tyres soon as.. Dunlop would be a good option 👍
You are such a good reviewer
Thanks Kevin 👍 😊
Another great review, Chops!!! Im simply torn between this and the 1250 gsa.....my only hesitation is shaft vs chain. Thoughts???
Nice review chopsy, that is one clever bike. Love the electronics package. Looks good even though that exhaust is a bit bulky. I am still in two minds about ktm. Are they more reliable nowadays?
I've had 3 KTM now and never had any issues! Greg has a 890 R for 1 year, not 1 issue.. my experience is positive
@@LambChopRides nice, I’ve been looking at a CBR650R but I always look at the KTM 790 or 890 and think shall I ha ha
The gearbox failed on my 2018 1290 SAS after 400 miles so the engine was replaced under warranty. The keyless ignition can be tempremental (sometimes the bike doesn't detect the fob so I can't start the engine & occasionally the fuel filler cap will not release). In Europe, KTM offer a 4 year warranty but we only get 2 years in the UK. In the light of all this, I cannot recommend KTM reliability-wise.
Top review Mr Chop. 👌I'm pretty sure that the last multistrada had a 17 front wheel ?
No it used to, moved to a 19!
Thank you for posting. Enjoyed your review. I am somewhat amazed how quickly KTM keeps updating their model range. I also believe, the KTM and the BMW are targeting a different demographic within the adventure community. So to say BMW-GS is better than KTM-1290 or vice versa is not fair to either brand. They both serve their targeted audience very well. Now I am looking forward to your Multistrada review.
Just wondering...if all the settings are already there in the softwear ,is there a way to unlock them yourself with a little computer skill instead of paying for what already is yours in the first place .
Great review ....as always.👍
Nice one chop's good test 😎👍
Nice bike, looks wise?
Front end.........Praying Mantis?!
Ball bags? Exhaust can?Looks OK to me.
Personally, I prefer the looks to the SD.
Bit pricey and high tech for me, but awesome bike.
Great review, as always.
Ride safe and have fun.
Grumps.
The electronics are crazy
Amazing review ❤️❤️
hi chops nice review as always just watched both of the sas reviews this and earlier bike i rode the newer one last week as nobody seems to have a gt to try and loved it apart from the windblast on my lid did you get any blast as your the same sort of build as me .may be the next bike if i can sort a remedy
thanks terry
Awesome watch 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
An amazing motorcycle but all the adventurers that weigh 250+ with fuel are not really suitable for off-road riding but for highway -and there I prefer the 1290 GT. If only KTM would supply a normal set of suitcases it would be the perfect motorcycle, for me.
I thought the Menu on my Sony camera was too complex...🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Have you ridden a r1250gs with akrapovic headers? That setup is a beast, it has power all around the rpms!
It’s now May... I cannot believe I am asking this (again 😀)... where are the cylinder heads and what is happening with the supermotard Chops?
Haha on thier way... I've decided the project will wait until the autumn now anyway as have no room during the summer with the loan bikes 😒
That multistrada is going to have to be perfect and come with free maccy d's to be that 😂
Looks fantastic! Have you reviewed that sweet AGV adventure style helmet? I normally wear Shoei for a more narrow oval head.
"It's got a semi on, and so have I". That statement alone made go to KTM and buy one.
Haha 😆👍
Cracking review Chops. Tempted to have a test....it’d have to be good to swap me 1250 in for though. Shame there’s no shaft drive on it, that’s a big thing for GS’ers.
Yea shaft drive is brilliant if its an all weather mile muncher I agree 👍
I know you go to Barnstormers BMW, I found out yesterday my friend Eddie passed away, I bought my first bike with him in 2010, and my current bike in 2015, I was gutted to here he is no longer with us. He was at Farrington for years and lately at Maidenhead. just gutted.
Great review chops I like the bike still lots money for me .thanks from danny