Home-made Hydraulic Ram Pump
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That is not a cabinet full of nuts, bolts and tools but instead is a cabinet full of memories that will last forever. Cherish it always.
My Grandad was cut from the same cloth. He was a Fire Chief from the late 50's till 1968, and had a killer shop in the basement, and all kinds of spares and old parts from when the USA used to make quality things people wanted. What a great environment to grow up around!
The first ram pump video is what brought me to this channel. Best instructions on ram pumps on youtube that I've found
I just took apart my ram pump because the brass swing checks were too floppy. Came here to do some more research, so it is funny to find you going thru the same sequence!
Cody, just a thought from an old retired pipe fitter. When ever installing a pressure gauge, whether for air, water, or steam, we always installed the gauge vertically using a Pig Tail. The Pig Tail traps air between the gauge and source lessening gauge contamination. and hammering. when your pump cycles. Love your videos, many thanks.
SmokymntnEd
Snubbers work better and take up less space.
Being an Okie myself and having saved every washer and nut and spring I came across over the last 60 years I could have told you your Grand Dad was an Okie just because he saved every piece of stuff he ever had. I think to people from Oklahoma its an art.
I enjoy your videos and have actually learned from them although I have been living the way you and your Family does for the last 40 years. Keep up the good work because you are helping a lot of people whether they will admit it or not.
Remember to keep God at the fore front in your life and every thing you do, never forget to ask his blessing on you and your family and you will be truly blessed.
The check valves you are using here are designed for horizontal use . Replace the one with a vertical check valve Designed to open vertically. You can get one from your local well driller or pump supply house .
1 solid year of constant running before service is really impressive.
my grandfather was also a mechanic and i so treasure his tools and hardware boxes he left me very handy
My dad and the guy he purchased his current home from several years ago both each had a nice collection of the exact same types of fasteners and whatnot. Our garage is more like a barn, and it's completely packed full of anything related to manual labor. I find that even though we may have a bunch of a certain part we need, often times we still need to go buy it, as it has become difficult to actually find anything here anymore.
Here's a tip from a plumber, swing checks can be installed vertically but is not advised, especially with frequent opening closing. I suggest a spring check. Added cost but will last longer with less chance of failure.
i miss my grandfather -he has been gone for four years now -he left me a lot of old tools too...
I really enjoy watching your Ram Pump videos. Great hands on learning/teaching experience. One piece of info that I would love to have, on parts that you do have to purchase, is add in there a word on how much, for example, a new check valve costs. If its a part you are replacing every year, you could buy 5-10 at a time and set them back for future rebuilds.
Looking to build one of these in Kyrgyzstan. Great to see a good example that I can try and replicate with parts made here. Thanks.
Interesting video Cody and some great improvements to your ram pump.
I love your grandads parts cabinet. What a great birthday present, not even considering the monetary value but the sentimental value would be immeasurable.
This seems the most simple and direct configuration for Wear Maintenance of the 'only two moving parts', the Gate Check Valves. Just put a Union Coupler at either end of the two valves assembly, so that the Valves section can be swapped out when required due to wear.
That birthday gift is priceless.
Great video... brilliant idea to feel up your garden water tank...
very cool....especially the heirloom fittings
Nick Wilson
Heirloom fittiings?
I'm going to look for one. I have been thinking about trying a spring check for the waste valve.
Amazing pick up getting your grand dads steel parts collection. I have acquired 2 generations worth of metal working tools but no metarials! :D
You spoke of rebuilding your check valves. I would drill out the worn pivots for the pin and install teflon bushings. They could be easily changed out in the future.
jfulton v
Now I know ho fix the one on my place - Awesome. Thanks so much!
What a wonderful birthday present. A gold mine of useful items! Great video. I always find so so so much information here. Thanks.
My dad had 'bolt bins' like that and one day it dawned on him that everything that was left in those jars were the leftovers that he never needed, all the useful stuff was long gone so he got rid of the rest. :D
I seen another video where a man used a PVC check valve (has a stainless spring and o-rings). He cut it open after 4 years of use and seen hardly any wear. On your next rebuild you may want to try a PVC check valve. Another option you can experiment with is a stainless steel check valve.
Jen Tronics: Thanks, I was wondering if higher quality check valves were available and apparently they are. Modern composite materials should be much quieter and last longer than brass.
I'd love to have that cabinet! nice treasure :)
Great grandfather ❤
Cody I used to be the boy who swept the floor in the mast building shop at Columbia yachts in the early 70s.Id sweep all the misc stainless steel fittings up off the floor every night,Id put them in a large old wooden chest in the corner to hold them for eternity. Well when Columbia closed dad got to keep that chest full of stainless steel nuts bolts and small fittings. He had the parts, he'd say there has to be just one more in there ,keep lookin. lol,
Really thought that it was going to last longer. Nice parts bin.
From rough calculations we can find that the valve has be shut about 15M times last year, it's done its job ;)
My dad gave me a cabinet full of fasteners and such, I call it the gold mine.
awesome video - best I've watched on this topic. :)
Yes this is a great idea.
That cabinet looks like it from and old library used to hold the old dewey decimal cards.
My old man is the same he saves all the brass fittings etc I do the same it is handy to have that stuff.
If the waste gate valve you used wore out in a year,maybe the one used for 100 years is a better way to go.i know these are off the shelf that makes it a quick build but htese pump have run for 20 years or more with out repair.How bout an update since the rebuild.great video as with all of them you do.I am a person who can fix most things myself but learn something knew each time I come to your channel
On your gauge, take about 2' of 3/8" copper tubing and make 2 loops in it and connect to gauge. it will help to dampen the shock.
Great video! Would it be possible to get more pressure if you installed an open ended length of pipe to the first check valve..possibly a 6" piece or more?
I can see you did a good repair job and the modifications are a plus also, especially with the relocation of the shut off valve. What do you do in the winter time? Place an insulated box over this assembly or remove it?
That cabinet made think, “Wow that’s just like both my grandpas, my dad, and I do.” All 4 of us being Okies. And then you said he was from Oklahoma. 😂 Made my day!
Thank you.
thats invaluable in my wold!
That's so Awesome!
your granddad was a genius , i managed to get a similar box from a closed down shop , it has been totally invaluable since
good job
Lol the AWESOME BOX OF GOODIES for a person like me.
Cody, I'd love to see a video of you building the missing drawer for that cabinet.
The "missing" drawer stood over at the table
Cody,i have a spring gravity feed to my house. Has been working great since 1977. But i have an electric pump at the house to increase the pressure, plus pressure tank. Not sure how a ram pump works? Would it increase my pressure? Where should i put it, at the spring? 150 yards from the spring and 20' lower at the house? My electric pump is struggling. have never ran? Or run out of spring water, but the pressure is about half of what it was 20 years ago. Any help would be appreciated. May god continue too bless you and yours.
Hi sir , thank u for sharing I really really love your work.Can u plz make one for me ?l have to lift up the water from the river to the top of the hill.How much is it going? Thank u sir!
use K&S Model-making tubing to re-bush it. Use the heavy wall version. Then you can re bush as required. Choose a size that fits a brazing rod slightly larger than the pin size in it. You can then easily replace bushing and pin.
I can relate to the history of your grandad passing those parts to you. My dad did the same.
I wonder if folks have noticed that small plumbing parts, brass especially in faucets, etc. are mostly made in China. I find myself replacing those parts as often as after just a year of service where the originals were American made and lasted 30 years! Some parts I get right from the plumbing store leak right from the beginning. Maybe the QC is crap but there are no American comparable components.
That's pretty cool I always wondered if there was some way of pumping water without using electricity, gasoline, or anything that requires a motor of some type. Just wish the land here wasn't flat so there was some flowing water. lol
A weight on the valve to let the water in the supply pipe gain more speed before it closes will give you more output pressure, if you need it. A ram pump gets its power from the momentum of the water.
Qual é a distância que tá jogando e a altura e vazão é grande?
Obrigado amigo e parabéns pelo projeto.
Is there an advantage to using flapper checks as opposed to ball checks?
Would it be practical to replace all the iron with high grade brass or stainless because of the rust scale. Also the pins replaced with hardened stainless to extend the rebuild for years. It would be more expensive but worth it
Do the check valves have to be close together or can they be spaced apart? Will it increase the amount or will it hinder the pump?
Watched this one today too. (May 14, 2019)
I wonder if you can order a new flapper and PIN for those check valves
Greetings from Oklahoma, I just wanted to know what you used your ram pump for? I'm planning on building one, but I wouldn't know what to do with it!
I like when the tube to metal plastic is to situated or fixed on the surface on the wall dont like to vmontirovana because when the big pressure it can be tech' or water kaplya and this easy to remontirovat and service
Did wranglerstar check the water noodle in the PVC pipe? I know those noodles absorb water and disintegrate (being in a chlorine pool) after several months, anyways. I thought that'd be the first piece of scheduled maintenance when I saw the original ram pump vid :)
Are the new check valves higher quality? Would be nice to know of a source for check valves that can put up with the abuse of a ram pump
Two little pieces of brass or copper pipe as bushings to fix the warren holes or even one piece across from one to the other.
10:54 that video give me the fizz
How does the ram pump in the winter? will it freeze up at all I live in SE ohio. Thanks
Chuck
They do make rebuild kits for check valves.
Thanks
Looks like a cabinet out of an old library that may of housed the Dewey decimal system cards
What creates the squirting, is it the pumping action or the gravity?
In my experience it would be wise to replace both check valves ,if one is worn the other is probably on the way out as well. The other check valve will definitely give out before the new check valve because of the excess ware .in my opinion I would replace both either with a rebuild or totally replace the entire valves . I am an old steam engineer retired and I still love to dabble in the trade .
Nice explanatiom
I think if you use a stainless steal pin instead of a brass pin you will get less wear. For the same reason in a vehicle transmission you never mesh like gears (materials). Less wear from one metal to the other regardless of how hard or soft. Something to look at.
Try using a silent check valve which doesn't have the swing valve flapping around and wearing as much.
Remove the large side cap. That is access for swing check disc. To be removed/installed. The small side cap is for swing pin. These pcs. Are available on internet. Just need to know the make and size of check valve.
i find something oddly relaxing about the sound of the check valve
love hardware,,,, don't like going to the hardware store, love to keep stocked up at auctions and garage sales, thanks to grandpa's
Has anyone tested which configuration works best?:
The waste valve before the delivery valve as shown in the video.
The waste valve after the delivery valve.
Easily over $100 worth of little brass fittings! Thanks, Granddad!
Question, what impact on the water hammer energy does the drive pipe diameter make? Does having a shutoff valve (constriction) in the drive line reduce efficiency?
replace the brass pin for a stainless steel pin for the check valve maybe?
What happens to the lost water ,, that goes out of the 1st check valve? Is there any way of storing that water?
pumping it from a stream or pond, the water would drain back in it. The water isn't lost. It only runs at about 10% efficiency
We can fix a pipe to bucket on the upper glow of valve.
Is it possible too use 1/4 turn ball valves in a system like this?
Any way to make this work pulling water from a pond? i was thinking about digging a hole to put the valve in, how deep is the problem?
when I was a kid I have seen ram pumps running , noisy, What is the water source , creek , how far up hill you pumping.
I don't know why not. I'd catch the water in a basin below the waste valve and pipe from there.
Depression survivors are the best to learn from, as long as they still have their wits.
Yes I'm sure it would last a bit longer.
Is there a higher quality check valve available that will wear better?
when u get it balanced to 10-15psi how much height can u pump water with a setup like this?
Hi sir...can I use this ram pump to draw water from deep well??
Cody I'm so sorry about your grandad he seemed like a man i would like to meet.
just build my ram pump but it delivers water at the rate of one gallon in 3 minutes and becomes slower after 12 hours and the air cylinder is filled with water-how can a fix it
Very in need of your expertise, how can i reach you? Thanks
Yes Engineer775 is a great resource.
The wrench is this is universal like a modern to work with the tube: plastic, metal,and metal- plastics for fittings connect but to another items or details want to need another. Translate: цей засіб тобто гайковий ключ універсальний та сучасний для роботи з трубами: пластмасою металеві метало -пластикових труб для фітингового з'єднання але для інших робіт потрібен інший ще потужніший чи потрібний для потрібної роботи
I wonder if the fittings are safe for use in California 😒
I want same like this
i use spring type check valves all the time, and they do wear less !!!
The ending made me super thirsty. I had to get some water