We Found Water For The Pond - Hydraulic Ram Pump

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  • If you don’t want to buy all the individual pieces for your own ram pump like we did, you can buy an already assembled pump on Amazon with the link below
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  • @HometownAcres
    @HometownAcres  ปีที่แล้ว +74

    If you don’t want to buy all the individual pieces for your own ram pump like we did, you can buy an already assembled pump on Amazon with the link below
    www.amazon.com/shop/hometownacres

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@GreenAcreHomestead Thanks for the shoutout!

    • @phreak480
      @phreak480 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LandtoHouse i watch both channels and as soon as I saw this video post I thought of your channel and was glad to see your stuff as the amazon link.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@phreak480 Thank you for watching both channels!

    • @william1863
      @william1863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👍✝️✌️😁

    • @Anthony-qt3wm
      @Anthony-qt3wm ปีที่แล้ว

      2 weeks later
      is it full?

  • @wintersplumbing5148
    @wintersplumbing5148 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    Thanks for mentioning us! We are very happy that your pump is working and were more than happy to help you.

    • @troydaigle1260
      @troydaigle1260 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As he said. Your local plumbing supplier is better than. Home depot. 50 people standing around and nobody will help you if they did know anything.

    • @CrezymedJohn
      @CrezymedJohn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      one of the best video explaing the experience of buiding ram pump. Well done!!

    • @cmcdsg
      @cmcdsg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is the ram pump works?

    • @Jim_One-wl4ke
      @Jim_One-wl4ke 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @winter plumbing good job.👍 keep up the good work ❤

  • @steveguzy3021
    @steveguzy3021 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Nice work Adam. To get more water you may want to consider a second ram pump feeding the IBC tote.

    • @JCWren
      @JCWren ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking another 4 or 5 pumps.

    • @firstfreonwarrior
      @firstfreonwarrior ปีที่แล้ว

      My thought too.

    • @steveoutdoors8210
      @steveoutdoors8210 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here.Why not add more pumps?

    • @mrcutter98
      @mrcutter98 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking that I would have run more pipe or a larger pipe through the trench before it was covered up also. That way more pumps could be used to get more water into the pond.

    • @brianseaders
      @brianseaders ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrcutter98 the siphon on that pipe will handle an isain flow rate its going far enough down hill he doesn't need a bigger discharge pipe

  • @resistireland694
    @resistireland694 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video Brother, very informative and straight to the point, thanks for sharing 👍🇮🇪

  • @Iaapwm
    @Iaapwm 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent delivery of info, Much appreciated from Lismore NSW Australia

  • @1amaker
    @1amaker ปีที่แล้ว +160

    You may want to consider a splash rock in the pond, so the constant drip of water doesn’t erode the sidewall.

    • @ameno21
      @ameno21 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Really good point.

    • @sassafrasvalley1939
      @sassafrasvalley1939 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If the pipe extended into the water, and elevated above a splash block or rip-rap bed… erosion could be nearly eliminated.

    • @1amaker
      @1amaker ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sassafrasvalley1939 I thought about the idea of just extending the hose into the water but figured he’d want to monitor the flow

    • @sassafrasvalley1939
      @sassafrasvalley1939 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@1amaker good point… perhaps he could put a clear section of hose just above flood stage?

    • @erikcourtney1834
      @erikcourtney1834 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was about to mention the same thing. Or just extent the hose so that it lays flat on the ground instead of pouring out and falling. I’ve seen this exact scenario with an overflow pipe causing a pond dam to wash out losing all the water. Then costing thousands of dollars to repair. No his isn’t going to effect the dam, but it can still cut a deep hole and channel that could get below the clay layer or hit fractured rock resulting in a leaking pond.

  • @MyClutteredGarage
    @MyClutteredGarage ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love those Ram pumps. Amazing ingenuity. Great job, Adam.

  • @christopherdold2277
    @christopherdold2277 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this well explained video of ram pump. Priceless. With no out of pocket ongoing expense. Thank you.

  • @dannys813
    @dannys813 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your ingenuity is absolutely amazing. I think it's pretty cool too.

  • @greggwilliamson7404
    @greggwilliamson7404 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    When I built my first ram pump (about 20 years ago) I used a small pressurized pump tank with a bladder. It made the pump cycle about three times faster and thus pumped more water.

    • @freedomnmetal
      @freedomnmetal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Show a diagram or working model please sir. What I'd really like to know though is can you turn your existing well into an electric free well thus becoming energy independent

    • @TwiceStruck
      @TwiceStruck 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@freedomnmetal I second that, love to see a diagram

    • @noelburke6224
      @noelburke6224 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@freedomnmetalyou do that with a wind mill set up over the well

  • @SpicerDesignsLLC
    @SpicerDesignsLLC ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I never new that pump existed. Pretty amazing. Great solution for extra water to the pond.

  • @durwoodfoote9607
    @durwoodfoote9607 ปีที่แล้ว

    And you are capturing water that would otherwise be lost down stream. Bravo! I like it. Thanks.

  • @BrianPhillipsRC
    @BrianPhillipsRC 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't wait to see your update. Thanks for sharing about your project. We're learning a lot from your experience, as we're about to dig our own.

  • @JCWren
    @JCWren ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I'm thinking your outlet pipe to the pond could easily handle double it's current flow, maybe a little more. Put 2 or 3 more ram pumps feeding the IBC tote, an overflow pipe that returns water to the creek (basically just dump it out a few feet away), and with the head pressure from the IBC tote, you'd easily be more than doubling your flow, and only for the cost of 2 or 3 more ram pump assemblies. The siphon idea a couple people have mentioned is also intriguing, and pretty easy to test without disassembling much of the current set up at the IBC tote.

    • @sRadio-xg4yr
      @sRadio-xg4yr ปีที่แล้ว

      An inexpensive option and certainly worth a look at adding more pumps. As for the siphoning effect, worth a test but my guess is that it would be detrimental to the operation of the ram pump as it would fight the incoming nonreturn valve.

    • @cmh-re
      @cmh-re ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you require one feed line for every pump, the longer the better, for the hydraulic ram to appen in a controlled way. Also if you add more pumps you require more water, but the stream was already near capacity

    • @pelbagaiinfo4466
      @pelbagaiinfo4466 ปีที่แล้ว

      large ram pump th-cam.com/video/1olasv8bpbE/w-d-xo.html

    • @JosetyKalase
      @JosetyKalase 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good morning I'm really appreciate what you have done to help in such a simple ram pump

  • @isaacw38
    @isaacw38 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is easily my favorite project of yours and love the updates on what you're doing and where that pond is at

  • @fredvizzan2199
    @fredvizzan2199 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job! pretty good explained how this dynamic water column "swing" pump works" Thank you , I enjoyed 🙂

  • @nathanielcook2386
    @nathanielcook2386 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid, love the support for local businesses. 🇺🇲

  • @chrisartman6168
    @chrisartman6168 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Adam, great video. I have a smaller ram pump, 1/2”, I use to irrigate my garden with. I fill a 55 gallon drum that then overflows back to the stream. I use a battery powered automatic ball valve to supply my drip irrigation. Unfortunately my little creek won’t support a larger pump, but it still works. I initially I built a 1” drive/1/2” out pump that works in the spring, but I don’t have enough water flow in the summer to run it. You were correct about the air in your driveline when you started. Also no discharge back pressure will effect it. You can throttle closed on the discharge valve until the line is filled. Then open up the discharge valve. Mine is all plastic accept for the swing check. Also I have my check valves swapped from your positions. I didn’t have to modify the spring check valve to make it work. After four summers, I’ve just have to replace the swing check valve every year. I’ve never checked my flow, but it’s a pencil stream. My issue is that I’m only lifting the water about 10’. So for it to work properly, I have to keep the discharge valve throttled. In my driveline, I put a bucket as a silt trap in addition to the intake screen. I put the water in bucket about 2/3rds of up the side of the bucket. Then tapped off the side of the bucket at the top to feed the pump. If we get heavy rain it usually stops the pump. I just dump the bucket over to empty it. Then just let it refill the bucket, reprime/restart the pump, and it’s off and running. After the initial investment, mine has been pretty cheap to keep going. I just pull it and and pipe for the winter. I drain it and hang it on the shed wall. Also to fasten it in the creek, I drove a tee post in the ground. I then bought large hose clamps and fasted the pump to the tee post. Great video and explanations. I’m glad this works for you. Have a good day!

  • @bobw9710
    @bobw9710 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video Adam! This ram pump technology is absolutely amazing. I learned something new today. Thanks and keep up the great videos.

    • @cmcdsg
      @cmcdsg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is the ram pump works? My land are 50meter higher then the water source.

  • @carolinafirewood
    @carolinafirewood ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm surprised we don't hear more about this kind of ingenuity. Good job.

  • @JasonLeonPike
    @JasonLeonPike ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work. Thanks for including some of that troubleshooting.

  • @TJ-nl4tn
    @TJ-nl4tn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome idea. I have a need to get water from my creek to water animals and for the wood fired hot tub.

  • @sassafrasvalley1939
    @sassafrasvalley1939 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Adam… that’ll work! These pumps always fascinate me… it’s almost like discovering a perpetual motion machine… all of the energy is, gathered, channeled, and converted in that self contained air bubble!!!
    Nicely done bud.

    • @Geekster896
      @Geekster896 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a perpetual motion machine that runs on over unity created by the water hammer effect. But since over unity is impossible as scientists claim, it must be the water pumping gods that are really pumping the water.

    • @sassafrasvalley1939
      @sassafrasvalley1939 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Geekster896 LOL… would that be one of Poseidon’s offsprings??

    • @Geekster896
      @Geekster896 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sassafrasvalley1939 lmao 🤣 it might just be.

  • @user-uj5cb7px6y
    @user-uj5cb7px6y 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are awesome at instructionals, Thanks

  • @MattMuckleroy
    @MattMuckleroy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are really blessed to have a running stream!

  • @bojangles_bonjangles8000
    @bojangles_bonjangles8000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s worth a shot to try! With evaporation and soil percolating it’s going to be interesting. Give us monthly updates!

  • @donbeckham
    @donbeckham ปีที่แล้ว +81

    You mentioned the bottom of the creek is 30' below the bank, and it appears the pond is more than 30' below the bank, and you mentioned you were worried about the pond pipe creating a siphon if you connected it directly to the the discharge pipe. The light should have come on in your head at that moment.
    If the elevation of the pond is lower than the creek bed, simply create a small weir in the creek and siphon the water over the bank. no ram pump needed, and you will increase the flow :)

    • @bradysjoblom
      @bradysjoblom ปีที่แล้ว +10

      There is a limit to how high you can lift water with a siphon which is around 30 feet at sea level and it's reduced a little in higher elevations. If his estimate is right then he would probably have a hard time unless he moved is intake pipe a ways upstream. That being said, I think his flow would only be improved connecting the pipes directly and deleting the plastic tank.

    • @glennknight1599
      @glennknight1599 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even if the siphon didn't work the tank further down the hill would lower the pumps head and increase the flow. I'm sure the siphon would work without the pump the inlet a bit up stream to keep the max lift to below 9.8m.

    • @claypf4795
      @claypf4795 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I was thinking the same thing. Get rid of the ram pump altogether and connect the two pipes together, and add a valve at the pond end. Use one of those inexpensive power tool battery powered pumps at the pond to prime it, then once the pipe is full stop tbe pump and close the valve. Remove the pump, open the valve, and let gravity do the rest.

    • @ryanpenney8349
      @ryanpenney8349 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because you can only lift (pull) water 30 feet with a siphon, and that is "theoretical lift", actual lift is probably lower, but it couldn't hurt to try.

    • @daviddecker9457
      @daviddecker9457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bradysjoblom It's mor like 25 ft.

  • @peterscott7384
    @peterscott7384 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job Adam. Impressive system. Simple and it works. Always best to keep it simple.

  • @airgunner0335
    @airgunner0335 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your time and information it will come in very handy in the future

  • @jda72
    @jda72 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That's cool these things have been around for a long time. My parents bought a farm in so. indiana in the 60's it had a big spring and the neighbor used those pumps to pump up to his house uphill all the way about 300 feet. He called them ramjets and had about 5 or 6 of them they were made of cast iron and had a check valve made of brass. I wish I had one of those old ones just for memories.

  • @oldguyfirewood
    @oldguyfirewood ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve also been fascinated by the ram pump and how it works. I think I first read about it in “Mother Earth News” over 40 years ago! Very nice video Adam. - Dick

  • @donlowe9125
    @donlowe9125 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great deal , I’m glad you found a solution

  • @FrazzledFarmer
    @FrazzledFarmer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We drained our pond in July. It's been quite the journey. We've got like 5 springs running into it, so that even during a drought-like season, our problem was the muck. We syphoned then pumped for weeks as we also cleaned out lily pads, lilies, and tons of mud. We finally got it fixed up enough for us and it's been filling about three weeks. I've been following your journey. Thanks so much for sharing.

    • @timecowx
      @timecowx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a lot of work, but cleaning out a pond like that is so rewarding. Ours would halfway disappear behind cattails and murk. after cleaning it all out and letting it fill again I had to keep reminding myself that we had not made it any bigger, we had just become so used to seeing less of it!

  • @jimconnor8274
    @jimconnor8274 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video Adam. Good old American edgenuity! A metal screen cover on the tote will keep leaves and debris out.

  • @richardross7219
    @richardross7219 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice video. Setting it up so that the outflow pipe is continuous from the pump to the pond should work fine and increase the flow a bit. I don't think that you will get a siphon condition anyway because the flow isn't enough to fill the outflow pipe. My Dad first encountered a hydraulic ram pump in 1929 when he was a kid at Boy Scout camp. He was fascinated by it so then he researched about them. He taught me about them in the 1950s and then I learned again in the 1970s from Mother Earth News Magazine. Adding a little more weight to the overflow check valve should increase the flow. Good Luck, Rick

  • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
    @Waterpoweredtechnologies ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice video, we love to see the increasing awareness of ram pumps!

  • @dereksellars
    @dereksellars ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool idea, that is a lot of water over time. Thanks for the video.

  • @Deutschehordenelite
    @Deutschehordenelite ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pretty awesome, good you figured this out, hope it lasts long! Never heard of something like this before!

  • @tenfeetwanderers774
    @tenfeetwanderers774 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Over time the ram pump can cause cracks in your connections due to the harsh stop/start of the ram. We found that swapping to a bunyip pump (made in Australia) that the water flow was a lot more progressive, and less harsh on the pipe and connectors.

    • @trafferz
      @trafferz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Quiet too. I've been fascinated with this type of technology for years. Thanks for the info.

    • @frosthoe
      @frosthoe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just add an anti hammer /air trap near the end and beginning of the output line. No more pinging.

    • @tenfeetwanderers774
      @tenfeetwanderers774 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frosthoe sure, you could do this. But then it's starting to over complicate a pump that by design is simple. This is the pump that I am referring to. It actually catches the fall before bottoming out, so you don't get that hammer: th-cam.com/users/shortsCLXalUmRikg?feature=share

  • @plokiju8876
    @plokiju8876 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so cool , it’s the first time I hear of such a pump. We can use this back home in the Caribbean.

  • @peteatthefarm4459
    @peteatthefarm4459 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool, wish I had a creek to use this....
    My pond is land locked and only fed by mother nature....
    Thanks for sharing....
    Pete from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @IraDuncan
    @IraDuncan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic ingenuity Adam! I appreciate all the thought you put into making your home more self sufficient, and I didn't even know something like this was an option.
    One of the channels I subscribe to is Life Uncontained and I can't help but think they could be well served (no pun intended) with something like this for their water storage needs in TX.
    1.3GPH for 10,000 gallons of storage could be gamechanging.
    Thanks for all you do and show us, and Godspeed.
    Ira

    • @jasonbroom7147
      @jasonbroom7147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure if they have a creek with enough flowing water?

  • @janvandermerwe4225
    @janvandermerwe4225 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I played around with ram pumps also. In my experience you will get more pressure if you use the flap valve for the waste and the spring check valve on the route to the pressure tank. So swapping the two valves. (with the spring mounted) I got 20m of lift with 1 m of drop in the feedline. Also using metal pipe for the last few meters in your feeding pipe will make a big difference.
    About the siphon, if you put your tank which is now on the highest point, about 5 m lower (this will create a 0.5 bar underpressure), you will have less counterpressure and therefore more flow. It might collapse your pipe though as you create a vacuum in the pipe, also the pipe should end under water in your buffer tank to avoid breaking the vacuum. With all these possible problems maybe not worth the trouble.

  • @Heavensmyhomenow
    @Heavensmyhomenow หลายเดือนก่อน

    You get my Subscription and a thumbs up !! You gave me all the ideas i need to fil my Natural pond from river thats about 80 feet down the hills or moutain

  • @PurpleCollarLife
    @PurpleCollarLife ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Physics - so fun! We always enjoy your high-speed walking edits. Nice project, Adam.

  • @benzie692
    @benzie692 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Super cool system you came up with Adam....never heard of one like that, but definitely going to look into doing the exact same thing on my property. FYI you should be able to get replacement valve components for your IBC tote from the hardware store and that will allow you to avoid another hole in the tank.....just run the line from the bottom valve out to your pond!

  • @RichardCurrie
    @RichardCurrie ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You might be able to improve performance by building a tiny weir at the intake for the rampump to ensure good water availablity. Additionally, as others have said, you can add additional ram pumps to increase flow to the tote.

  • @PineyGroveHomestead
    @PineyGroveHomestead ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's a awesome solution Adam! Looking forward to the update when the pond is full!

  • @matthewkneisler6617
    @matthewkneisler6617 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent. Great information. Thank you for doing the "heavy lifting".

  • @DanKlein_1
    @DanKlein_1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was cool to see. I have heard of a ram pump before but never knew what one was. The video makes all that hard ditch work look easy but that was a LOT of shovel work. One good thing is you know what you did now. If you see you would like to double your output, you could always run a second pump into your IBC. I assume the single line out to the pond would handle twice the volume coming from your IBC.

  • @sweetjesus697
    @sweetjesus697 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    nice work Adam, not sure if you have a need or if your creek runs fast enough but I saw a great video from Marty T channel in new Zealand, he converted a washing machine into a generator to power his house. Looking forward to seeing more on your house build, and the differences in construction methods you guys use up there compared to us.

    • @wideyxyz2271
      @wideyxyz2271 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marty is a top bloke love his videos

  • @inierivalde7545
    @inierivalde7545 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would definitely try this brilliant ideas of yours. Thanks.

  • @AB-C1
    @AB-C1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great project!
    Cheers from London England 👍😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @davesauerzopf6980
    @davesauerzopf6980 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have looked into doing this and would really like to see a breakdown of the parts and the actual build. You are by far, very detailed with your videos, and I am sure many viewers would appreciate it. Great video as always. Thank you.

  • @GrowinAlaska
    @GrowinAlaska ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A simple tee fitting at the top of the hill would negate the need for the tote, as it would break the siphon. Also, try reinstalling the spring in the check valve now that the air is out of the line.

    • @Mm-ik9uq
      @Mm-ik9uq ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree and the siphon will help the pump..

    • @Mm-ik9uq
      @Mm-ik9uq ปีที่แล้ว

      Using a larger pump on the discharge side would help deliver more water..Smaller pump cause friction which requires more pressure to get the same volume. Using a larger pump lowers the required pressure, and help it deliver more with less work..

  • @nadabhutia3465
    @nadabhutia3465 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's awesome ❤ I am gonna try this one.

  • @jroddski5433
    @jroddski5433 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this insightful video!

  • @anthonysmith8981
    @anthonysmith8981 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting ram pump application. It was a good description of the way they work and will certainly be helpful to many. Having said that, I can’t understand why you are not using the siphon effect of the pond being below your creek. The ram pump could prime it and you could connect the two lines at the tank after you have good flow… you wouldn’t hurt the ram pump but the more superior siphon effect would make it unneeded until the next time you need to prime the lines.

    • @WVRetreat
      @WVRetreat ปีที่แล้ว

      Good idea. I would add a bypass around the ram pump so that you could use it to prime the line then bypass it after the water is flowing.

  • @alexkasacous
    @alexkasacous ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Seems like a good way to harvest a little water without negatively impacting the creek. A solar run low flow pump emptying into the IBC tote might also be worth considering. I reckon a couple of years to fill the pond, couple more for fine clay sediment to seal it up, so 5-10 years and you'll have a pond/dam that will be enjoyed for decades or more.

  • @vernroach3413
    @vernroach3413 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very entertaining film and learning experience...thank you.

  • @stevenkas7850
    @stevenkas7850 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God bless you forsuch a wonderful idea. Your ideas will bless many communities Paupa new Guinea

  • @SteelPineTree
    @SteelPineTree ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The only calculation I haven't heard you make is what is the rate of evaporation on the open surface of the pond. I'm guessing it's a lot less than 1.33 gallons per minute generally. On extremely hot sunny windy days I'd love to know the worst amount that does occur. Thank you very much for going to all the trouble and videography of sharing this with all of us!

  • @HarrisonCountyStudio
    @HarrisonCountyStudio ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What is the elevation difference between the creek and the pond?
    If the pond is lower, you may be able to create a syphon. This would eliminate the need for a pump.
    Great video and knowledge shared ✌🏽

    • @MrRickoscar
      @MrRickoscar ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to know the difference also.

    • @FreeFinca
      @FreeFinca ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nine days and still no answer?

    • @MrRickoscar
      @MrRickoscar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FreeFinca I think some ones head is getting a little big with 98,000 subscriber's.

    • @FreeFinca
      @FreeFinca ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrRickoscar Or just so many questions and not enough time.
      All that equipment to play on, I wouldn't be answering questions either 🤣

    • @QUIX4U
      @QUIX4U ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually - the SYPHON effect - will increase the flow of water - such that the pond can still be well above the creek, just as long as there can be NO air entry between the pump (near the creek) and the pond outlet.
      The reason is totally simple.
      A syphon works by having a completely filled (with water in your case) pipeline between the inlet & outlet.
      NOTE: You will still need a way to fill that syphon pipe that's above either the inlet or the outlet.
      Simply tossing a pipe over a hill - with a new pipe full of air - syphons nothing if the pipe isn't filled with water before you attempt to syphone anything
      (you need it filled with water or any air in that pipe will be removing any syphon- effect)
      No pump means the outlet MUST be below the inlet.
      And some means has to be added to allow you to fully fill the outlet (downhill) pipe, as well as most if not all of the inlet pipe
      Adding any pump that (as we can see) can pump anywhere up to a 30 ft head - means that the outlet of the syphon pipe (at the pond) can easily be close to that 30ft = ABOVE the pump itself.
      You can only determine how close, by ensuring all the air is removed from both the inlet & outlet pipes, before testing the tolerances of that system.
      As soon as the pump pipe is connected to a syphon pipe (one running down the hill) any water throughput will increase

  • @lesliechan68
    @lesliechan68 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    These old school science really are needed, and water is such a powerful resource, it can really be incredibly useful, imagine you have a stronger flow of water (maybe use damming), you can make yourself a hydro electric plant, I’ve seen small designs generate 1Kw power 24/7 and it’s free and environmentally friendly.

  • @lolitapmisagal7909
    @lolitapmisagal7909 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you bro. God bless you.

  • @scottieray
    @scottieray ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love projects like this. And local shops are almost always best, even if prices are higher the level of service is worth the price.

  • @robgad2271
    @robgad2271 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ram pumps work fine, but slowly, and there are a few fine points to using them. One is the vent check can have a line running off to the side to keep a puddle out of your work area, but don't run it up hill because it will stop the flow. The filter sock you make is find for a few minutes, but you probably need one about five feet long. The other very helpful info is you should start with a 4" inlet, for the first 10 feet under the creek flow, the first five feet can be drilled and a sock put over the inlet all the way up over all of the holes, this can be held on with a band clamp. Before the 4" pipe elbows up add a 4x3 reducer, run a few feet of 3" then use a 45° elbow not a 90°, because each 90will have a 15% loss of flow. Reduce from the 3 to your supply line fitting and this contraption will give you a stronger flow. Where a lot of rise is needed, the trick is to build a series of thousand gallon ponds or tanks, run out of that into a second ramp pump, etc., until you get to the top. As long as the inlets don't clog or freeze, they will flow flow 24/7 and have little maintenance.

  • @useracount8544
    @useracount8544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool, yes great service in the smaller local suppliers, great job too, and you could use the output in that tank to run a small water wheel to generate power too!

  • @johnspathonis1078
    @johnspathonis1078 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nicely done Adam. The accumulator will get water-logged with time (air disappears by disolving in the water) . To prevent this , fit a 'snifter' valve. It introduces a small amount of air per cycle to keep the accumulator fully charged. Cheers.

  • @JohnnyD23
    @JohnnyD23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good Job man. Hopefully rain and snow can help. Curious with your design, could you make it bigger? Bigger, pvc, wider hose? Time is always a factor. Non the less, awesome work! Liked and subscribed

  • @driedprinterke6988
    @driedprinterke6988 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi @Adam, nice project.. Just a quick question: Could this system be build without the 2 red ball valves in the front and at the end? And also Is there a bike tire in the pressure tank?

  • @cruzc5frc
    @cruzc5frc ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the knowledge and wisdom that makes the technology worth it.

  • @lykaojalao2733
    @lykaojalao2733 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting
    Thank you for showing

  • @DavidSmith-gplus
    @DavidSmith-gplus ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm pretty sure running the ram pump directly into a syphon would work perfectly. In effect you'd then have a self priming syphon - and your flow would be much better (once the air was purged all the way down to the pond). If you don't think it would work... test it. It would take half an hour to temporarily bypass the storage tank to confirm whether it would work as a syphon. All this is assuming the pond is lower than the water source.

    • @jmaus2k
      @jmaus2k ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree. And put the output pipe under the water at the pond, then it wont pull air back in the pipe.

    • @jaseastroboy9240
      @jaseastroboy9240 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just make sure to put a check valve in line to prevent a broken hose down at the ram pump on the pond side causing a reverse siphon where your whole pond gets emptied into the creek. Or as has been suggested just put a tee in at the highest point with a short length of vertical open ended pipe to break the siphon and use a second or third pump to increase the water flow if needed. A reverse siphon event would be very bad and may not be noticed until the pond was emptied or at least emptied down to the level of the submerged pipe.

    • @DavidSmith-gplus
      @DavidSmith-gplus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaseastroboy9240 I'm pretty sure a ram pump is based on a check valve - so an additional one should not be needed. And breaking the syphon is exactly the opposite of what I'm suggesting - as, once the ram pump has primed the syphon, it would be better/quicker than the ram pump. But I'm not a smart man.

    • @jaseastroboy9240
      @jaseastroboy9240 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidSmith-gplus I think i just did a bad job of describing it.
      The check valve suggestion was for the pipe going from the top of the weir down to the pond. It isn't necessary for the operation of the setup, it is just a safety mechanism. If for example the hose from the output of the ram pump was a continuous line up over the weir and down to the pond then if the hose became detached at the output of the ram pump. By storm damage, sun damage, vandalism etc. Then depending on the relative heights you may get a siphon effect from the pond to the creek. The opposite of what is wanted and potentially able to empty the pond into the creek. A check valve could be added to prevent the reversal of the water flow, it would do nothing normally and would only close if the water flow reversed.If the pond is lower than the creek then this would not be an issue.
      If the creek is higher than the pond then a siphon would work better, especially if the pipe was cut into the weir a bit so that the "hump" that the water had to get over was less. I think somebody already mentioned that the excavator could probably cut a trench 10 feet deep from one side of the weir to the other, drop in the hose and then fill the trench back in. Basically the pipe would run through the weir 10 feet below the top of the weir. This should improve the siphon effect and the water flow rate.
      My suggestion of the vertical pipe at the top of the weir was to break the siphon as a way to ensure there was no chance of a reverse siphon effect. Not to improve the flow rate.

    • @DavidSmith-gplus
      @DavidSmith-gplus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaseastroboy9240 TL/DR. Have a great day.

  • @cmh-re
    @cmh-re ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In theory if you manage to make a perfect syphon on the pipe going to the lake, whitout bubbles, it will reduce the head pressure required for the pump and increase flow.
    You can tune your valve frequency by adding weights to it using a junction nut

    • @djdickey
      @djdickey ปีที่แล้ว

      using a second pressure vessel after the apex with a height taller than the apex is what would be needed to maintain the syphon from the ram pump. The ram pump becomes the priming method for the siphon as you know, the second pressure vessel is really an anti air gap vessel. You'll need to put a valve to allow air to escape for priming and then close the valve once the second vessel is full. Probably a good place for a simple air bleed valve so you don't have to maintain manually bleeding it.

  • @OGmanofculture
    @OGmanofculture ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this solution to my problem as well great idea.

  • @Steelhead23
    @Steelhead23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Sir. I love this video!

  • @DIYMyWay
    @DIYMyWay ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Adam! Great project! Ram pumps are amazing and you’ve got me think of an application for one. Thanks for sharing!

  • @williamlarocque2910
    @williamlarocque2910 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cool project! If the pond is lower than the stream, why not just direct siphon?

    • @mandiegarrett1706
      @mandiegarrett1706 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unless I am mistaken, I think he said the creek is lower than his pond, that's why he has to pump water uphill to the tote then from tote he can siphon water to the pond since pond is lower than the tote but not lower than the creek...that's my understanding, please correct me if I am wrong because I am learning. Thank you.

    • @lauriehudson9493
      @lauriehudson9493 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mandiegarrett1706 yes, your right. The creek is lower than the pond.

  • @brucebello2049
    @brucebello2049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great solution Adam, well done!

  • @robertsteen8685
    @robertsteen8685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is exactly what i need, i will be building one very soon. Thank you

  • @pdzh
    @pdzh ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For siphon not to happen, add a standpipe on the hill of delivery pipe, it will allow air to enter the pipe and not create siphon effect.

    • @motnitsua29
      @motnitsua29 ปีที่แล้ว

      but you benefit from the siphon

    • @pdzh
      @pdzh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@motnitsua29 not in ram pump on the delivery side. It requires a pressure to operate

    • @motnitsua29
      @motnitsua29 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pdzh it is the total head that operates teh pump. the siphon still has head pressure.

    • @pdzh
      @pdzh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@motnitsua29 yes, unless it makes a siphon that pulls the pump side too much even for a moment

    • @motnitsua29
      @motnitsua29 ปีที่แล้ว

      Total static head is the difference in elevation between the ram and the creek intake. It's what creates the velocity in the pipe that drives the ram. A siphon doesn't affect the total static head. More important is the diameter of the feed pipe which contributes to friction losses and robs the ram of its energy which it gets from the static head differential.

  • @joesixpack8305
    @joesixpack8305 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Adam, have you considered running a larger ram pump setup or perhaps running a second ram pump in parallel to increase output?

    • @pelbagaiinfo4466
      @pelbagaiinfo4466 ปีที่แล้ว

      large ram pump th-cam.com/video/1olasv8bpbE/w-d-xo.html

  • @dmann1209
    @dmann1209 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome explanation of the science behind the pump. Great content!

  • @losmetalsindustrialrecords5917
    @losmetalsindustrialrecords5917 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow incredible sir, brilliant

  • @hevychevy87
    @hevychevy87 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great job Adam! Those ram pumps are so cool. Take care!

  • @patrioticamerican8355
    @patrioticamerican8355 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can eliminate the vertical check valve by putting another vertical tank like you have Downstream of your swing check valve you could just simply copy that in place of the first vertical check valve that you call the spring check valve you can eliminate that and just put in another bottle on top of it

    • @sanusitunde8266
      @sanusitunde8266 ปีที่แล้ว

      The pressure building inside that first tube will disrupt the neutral pressure neede for the initial water inrush to the system

  • @cjkersh
    @cjkersh ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work, thank you for sharing

  • @eugenebruno1481
    @eugenebruno1481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This got to be the coolest thing I've ever seen. Wow

  • @paulkramer4176
    @paulkramer4176 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looks like you might have the solution there for your ponds water needs, but, as others have said, IF the elevation of the creek is high enough, there is no reason you couldn't or shouldn't just run a pipe directly from the creek. We don't know the elevational differences between the two. Ok, if you have a 30' wall between the two, you still might well get it done with a siphon, if you were able to upstream even a little. Keep it below 30' (10 meters at sea level) and you should be fine. I've dealt with water for many years too. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people try to run a line between two systems and try to keep it "level so that there won't be air blockage. There is NO need to do that. Better for long distance running of water to NOT be "level". Run it DOWN from the source, and UP to the reservoir! then there will be little chance of a air barrier. Also you can put a valve at the bottom to drain the sediment if need be.
    The Ram pump is good, and a good solution if there is not much water. Another solution that many folks don't know about is the "high lifter" water pump. Again, no fuel, no electricity, almost no moving parts. It also uses the water pressure (gravity) to pump. With one of those you trade elevation for some use of water. you can pump using the head you have. If you have 10 foot of head, then you can pump 1/4 of that and (lose the rest into your creek) and you get 40' of head. Or, if you have to go higher, you can pump 1/9 and get 90 feet of head, (9 times the original head) There are advantages to each. There is less wear and tear on the system, and no "ram!" of the water, thus no "noise" (The rams do make a bit of noise that may or not bother you) The high lifters have a very good reputation, but I don't think you can easily build one yourself. Still they cost way less than a well, and they have a very long lifespan. IF you have a lot of water, (say 4 to10 times more than you need someplace) and you have head, then you can get pump water a very long distance with these. I've seen one that pumped the water over 1000 feet and an elevation from the pump of 200 feet. They had a creek with an elevational drop of 40' from where they drew the water to where they pumped it. I think they put the pump in 20 years or more ago and it is still pumping fine....
    I don't have as much water, so I pipe to a holding tank and use a solar pump, (Lorentz) to pump mine up about 180 feet of head. But there are Chinese pumps that cost about 1/5th or less, and sound pretty good too.

  • @FelonyVideos
    @FelonyVideos ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Dude, at least by the video appearance, your pond is way lower than your creekbed. Assuming the creekbank is not more than 30 feet above the creek bottom, a simple siphon should give you 10 times more volume. But, this is still very cool.

    • @vidaalternativa6017
      @vidaalternativa6017 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That's true Adam, try it out, you can make water go uphill throw siphoning.

    • @TakeNoneForTheTeam
      @TakeNoneForTheTeam ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Right. Seems like taking water from current screened intake location to the pond is worth trying if it is higher up.

    • @HarrisonCountyStudio
      @HarrisonCountyStudio ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This is exactly how water utilities supply water. Potable water is pumped into elevated tanks, then gravity will distribute the water thru out the system.

    • @andrewmilsted9361
      @andrewmilsted9361 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      It depends on if the height gain is more than 10 m, if it is, a siphon can't work because you can only suck up water 10 m (in perfect conditions) so the limit is likely to be less.
      You could try from the where the water is being taken from, but you still need to find a way to prime the siphon.

    • @FelonyVideos
      @FelonyVideos ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The ram pump could still be used to start and restart the siphon, if the siphon works at all.
      Just as a side note, there is a process that uses something similar to desalinate water and make it drinkable. When a siphon is higher than 33 feet, a vacuum forms at the top, but it not really a vacuum, it is low pressure water vapor. What condenses on the other side of said vacuum is pure distilled water. It's an almost energy free way of getting drinking water from the dirtiest of sources.
      P.S. Other than sheer stupidity by politicians, there is almost no reason this technique isn't used by most cities. The technology isn't that complicated, and there doesn't even need to be any moving parts.

  • @billkiessel6682
    @billkiessel6682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very interesting! thanks for sharing, love your channel!!

  • @davidedwards3734
    @davidedwards3734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!!! Lots of people in SE Georgia use ram pumps to water their livestock. Have a Safe Day

  • @nickgironda8932
    @nickgironda8932 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Incredible! What about freezing, Adam?

    • @HometownAcres
      @HometownAcres  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I said at the end I will pull it out of the creek during the winter

  • @alansummerscales3376
    @alansummerscales3376 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Remove the ibc and run the pipe all the way, that will reduce your effective head and the ram will pump faster. More water.
    If it siphons and stops the pump then put a valve on the hammer check valve,so once running you can syphon all the way.

  • @joesixpack8305
    @joesixpack8305 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work Adam. Ram pumps are popular among bush people. You can always add a well if it comes down to it. Well worth seeing what this ram does.

  • @Bowdock
    @Bowdock ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for a very useful idea and a very good presentation. Thank you.

  • @sharpshorts
    @sharpshorts ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why not just use a siphon** line? Seems to me that you don't need to use a ram pump...
    Or you could use both to get a greater amount of flow into the pond.
    (the siphon line could use the same discharge line as the ram pump' or a separate (larger diameter?) line could be run to the pond...
    ** The siphon line would need :
    a line from the stream to the pond ... with a line fill port at the top of the bank and two on/off valves in the siphon line.
    IE; place intake valve #1 in the creek (under the creek's water level) and place the discharge valve #2 down the hill (such that it's lower than the creek level intake valve #1) .
    Initially you would need to close both valves then completely fill the section of line between the valves... to get the siphon started, 1st open intake valve #1 and then the discharge valve #2.
    Once the siphon starts, water will continue to flow until the intake line is lifted out of the creek or the creek runs dry...

    • @JoeMalovich
      @JoeMalovich ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Siphons only work reliably up to a certain height, somewhere under 33ft. He says the hill there is about that much so I doubt it would work unless the siphon ran around the bank further down the slope.

    • @sharpshorts
      @sharpshorts ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JoeMalovich You could be right ... I don't know much about siphon properties but -- I've watched a few letsdig18 videos
      (I stayed @ a Holiday Inn last night😁) where he uses a 4" pcv pipe to drain ponds... but perhaps those outlets were less than 30 feet lower than the inlets.

  • @jazzdad52
    @jazzdad52 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Several comments mentioned that the pond “looks” lower than the stream bed, so it could all be done by siphoning. However, if the pond is not lower, a partial siphon effect could still help if the reserve tank is eliminated. If the pipe stays continuous, it will have the effect of seeming to reduce the height that the pump needs to push the water. Once the water reaches the high point, where he put the open tank, it creates an air break. Instead, if the pipe continues unbroken downhill, than every foot that it drops will pull the water at least part way. If it only drops 10 feet, it will reduce the work the pump needs to push the water as though it was pumping 10 feet less to the high point. It will still need to pump to the full height, until the pipe is full, and the water starts to flow down the other side. However, if the downhill pipe doesn’t create a solid column of water, it will allow air to flow back up (from the pond side) and stop the siphon “assist” effect. It might help to use a smaller diameter pipe on the downhill leg to the pond. Depending on the amount of water flowing down, the water needs to block off air returning back up to the high point. Possibly a check valve at the pond end will stop air from going up the pipe, stopping the siphon effect. The reason a true siphon works is that the water on the downside weighs more than the water on the up side. The lower the outlet, the more difference in weight there is. But if air enters from the outlet, it will stop the siphon. If the down doesn’t weigh more than the up, it won’t siphon on its own, but will effectively reduce the pressure the pump needs to create, as though it was only pumping to the height difference to the pond. If it pumps 25’ up, then flows back down 15’, the pump only needs to lift 10’ (after initially filling the 25’ up)

    • @bobhoward9016
      @bobhoward9016 ปีที่แล้ว

      my friend, it's a strange but actual fact that siphoning only works up to a specific pressure. I can't say what that pressure is or if that pressure would apply here. but I suggested this to the hydrology PhD that was installing my well and he says that the negative pressure will pull oxygen out of the water and generate an air pocket which will necessarily negate siphoning effect. I've been pumping water and building off grid water systems for over 30 years and my experience is you are correct, up to around 20-30 lbs negative pressure. good luck 👍

    • @sestun
      @sestun ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem is the ram pump itself need the pressure from the delivery pipe to work. If you siphon the water out (even partially) it will stop working.

    • @WeChallenge
      @WeChallenge ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sestun I disagree, if the ram has to push 30 ft up and siphon effect going down to the pond has a 15 ft drop down, the down pull of the 15 ft on the pond side would zero out 15 ft of the ram side having to be pushed up, leaving the pressure needed to the ram would have reduced load on the output side makingvit work to push the water only as high as the lowest point of the siphon outlet end or a head pressure equal to having it lift water only 15 ft rather than 30. For this to work,, the outlet side of pipe would need to be bled of all air, sealed, and it would have no need for an outlet check valve so long as the end stays submerged in the pond8s needed, so long as the end stays submerged in the pond no air could backtrack into the system causing a continuous reduced load so long as the pond outlet isn't lower than the creek bed it should actually work, and reduce the load needed to push the water the 30 ft elevation.

    • @sestun
      @sestun ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WeChallenge ​ @WeChallenge I think you imagine that ram pump works like an electric or gas pump. The less load on it the better.
      But the ram pump needs the back pressure from the outlet pipe or it will stop working.
      @landtohouse actually has a recent install, when they wanted to lift the water only to a certain height, but then they had to move it much higher or the pump stopped working.

  • @jayham1970
    @jayham1970 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must say that your ram pump probably pumps more water than any ram pump that I have ever seen. 1 gallon in 45 seconds is pretty amazing. Great job. 👍🏅👏👏👏