Interview with former SS-Sturmbannführer Eberhard Heder - Reflections
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- Eberhard Heder (1918-2017) joined the Waffen-SS in 1937. He took part in the annexation of the Sudetenland (1938), the Anschluss of Austria (1938), the occupation of the Netherlands and saw severe battle on the Eastern Front from June 22, 1941 until the end of the war in 1945.
Please note that this video is uploaded for historical and educational purposes only. This video has nothing to do with politics or glorification. If you leave a comment, please be respectful. English subtitles available.
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Fascinating interview. Is there more? This officer actually commanded the group my Father was in near Warsaw in those terrible battles in autumn 1944.
Good info, can you talk more about your father? The name isn't neccesary of course. Regards.
@@L30x My Father was called Anton Hrycyszyn and I wrote about his experiences in my book, which you can find on amazon kindle. It's called 'God Save Me From My Friends', biography of a Ukrainian Exile. Tells of his time in the war and in SS Viking. etc
@@Mike-mm4mx I will be ordering the book.
What happened to your father after the war??
My Mother escaped Krakow as Russians approached. She was placed on a train of Army Nurses by German Soldiers going back to Germany..
Very captivating interview, and his memories are still very clear of his youth.
A great piece of history this document now is. At least it is out there. I enjoyed listening to your two videos of him and his older-school, more mumbly and fragmented German. I was able to improve my German even more without subtitles, because he really makes you listen and is already captivating. And now no more dislikes shown from the haters. Amen. Ruhe gut, Soldat. Egal was.
You might be interested in this interview as well.
th-cam.com/video/uBv48mxkN0Y/w-d-xo.html
I think the take home message here is that many men had their lives ruined simply because of having been members of the SS branch, regardless of their motivations for joining, or the lack of any criminal behavior during the war. Simply because a man was in the SS does not mean that he killed Jews, or had ANY responsibility for killing them. I know an SS Panzer Tank commander personally, who spent the entire length of the war in a remote location, no where near capturing or gassing innocent people. He was just as shocked and aghast as everyone else to discover what had happened when he returned to Germany after the war. He echoed this man's words verbatim, that simply by being associated with his branch for a few years as a young man, the entire rest of his life had been ruined, even having been disowned by his daughter and never being allowed to see his grandchildren. This, despite having joined ten full years prior to any mention of war, and having done so for purely patriotic reasons (to stop communism from taking over Germany) and as a means to eat. Tragically, the disowning by their children is a sickening, but common story in Germany to many of these old men, who were only young men, boys in some cases, at the time of the war and their ashamed children have judged them guilty by association. One must understand that the level of shame and self-reproach in Germany after the war was "off the scale" and enough to result in children disowning parents, even if it was undeserved. It is entirely inaccurate and unjust to pronounce a man guilty of war crimes, simply because of the uniform he wore. The courts of law have acknowledged this fact.
These people are scum. The allies should have handed them over to the Russians for a one way trip to Siberia to atone for their murderous sins
@@saulgood2366 communists are on the same if not worse level of scum and destruction
@@rosebudthekingofthorns1241 Why do I get the feeling you would have been one of the first to enlist….
@@Joe_Peroni lot of 14 88 clowns here trying to defend child murderers
@@Joe_Peroni said the idiot
I don't know about you guys, but I could see English subtitles at the bottom. Perhaps you can try enabling the same at your end from the settings. Thank you for the upload Stijn, it would be useful from History point of view to hear about their point of view as well. Keep it up.
You have to click German subtitles in order to see english subtitles. Weird, but it works.
Although it is only six hours, as a person who studied linguistics and translation at university, and who worked in it professionally, I understand how long it would have taken to do the transcript. I had difficulty at times understanding what the gentleman was saying. I think you did a very good job on this one.
Thank you for posting this. I have been studying WWII from the German perspective since I was an exchange student in the early 80s'. There are still stories to tell. Not every German was evil.
Pretty stupid comment, only someone utterly brainwashed would think "every German was evil". Do you never stop to question the mainstreams and the narratives you are fed or do you just usually follow the herd? The vast majority of Germans were good, decent people. A few ideological zealots twisted and manipulated minds.
@@distantthunder12ck55 I am only repeating some of the things that have been said to me when others found out I was studying from the German perspective. Try not to be cruel. Those are the kind of comments I try to make. If you interpreted otherwise, sorry.
@@distantthunder12ck55 …sure not all were evil but when you consider the “fruit” of the third riche it’s pretty obvious that they were an evil generation
@@distantthunder12ck55 Namely Zionists...to this day.
@@theyangview1898 You can't even spell Reich correctly. Fuck Off...now you've made me swear.
A good read is "Grandma's Attic by Shane Dietrich". Classified as historical fiction but the story is not that different from this man's.
Fiction as most WW2 movies that come out of Hollywood...
To enable the English subtitles just touch (click) on the three dots, that look like periods, stacked one on top of another, in the upper, right hand corner of one’s screen. There one is able to select and enable the subtitles.
I'm watching this on my phone and sorry to say, I got no dots lol... unfortunately!
Would love to know what he had to say!
Walter,
My apologies, I found the dots. Thank you!!
Thank you for teaching me about the 3 dots in the upper right hand corner
Thank you for teaching me about the 3 dots
a total bad video ... why cut it short ?... these were not bad guys , they was just solders
The Wehrmacht, yes. The SS were generally something more than "just soldiers". It can be argued that the ones who signed up for the SS before things like the Nuremburg Laws and Kristallnacht might be able to say they didn't want or have a part in persecution of people by the Nazis. Joining the SS after, say, 1941 it's a lot harder to argue that they didn't know what they were to do.
Krieg ist eine Plage, die Zeit von 1930 bis 1939 finde ich spannender
Play this video when the history documentaries talk about "Hitlers brutal invasion of Austria".
It needs subtitles!!!
He could have been telling me how to trim a hedge for all I know!
Having said that it is good to get first hand accounts before old age takes them!!
Keep Straight.
Nothing worse than a sloping hedge.
You can enable subtitles for this video.
@@Zoydian hi. Thanks for letting me know.
Probably more balls than most men on the planet. salute to you Sir.
Quite interesting. I hope you upload the whole interview. It would be nice. And all the best to Herr Heder and best of health.
Yes best of health to the SS Nazi
Interesting. As a SS-Major Heder was on various places where bad things happened, most of the time in his vicinity. My guess was he closed his eyes and lived to be 99 years old to rethink and rewrite his personal past. In Poland and the SU, many terrible things happened. KZ's are just a very small part of that. The random killings, burning villages, Einsatztruppen, it all is so much different than a cheering Austrian crowd during the 'Anschluss'.
They should have stayed in Austria and we would all have different discussions.
You hit the nail on the head.
is that your personal experience of the war, or his? It's a 6 minute interview only. He was in Austria, the Sudetenland, Netherlands and then the Eastern front. Nowhere does it indicate he was in Poland or was a member of the Einsatzgruppen...
@@odessa5631 You are very naive if you think that only bad things happened in Poland + when members of the Einsatzgruppen where nearby. Look up the Commisahrbefehl - or the killing of 13 000 jews in Tarnopol where members of the Wiking division where involved.
2 digit IQ comment.....🥴
@@odessa5631 It's called selective memory. It's in his rank SS-Sturmbannführer. Also in the fact that he was in the SS before and throughout the war. Conscripts didn't become SS. He was all about it.
Now he is back with his comrades on the field of honour, a salute for Sturmbannfuhrer is in order.
Foei Stijn zoveel waarheid in een paar minuten.
Interesting. My landlord was in Austria when the Germans marched in. He said it was the best dau of his life. He did say there was a housing market crash though in Vienna. He said that the Swiss were there, buying up whole streets of houses.
Sigma Male Swiss
@@sjsabattis Somehow the Swiss knew that no matter what happens in the war, they will be making a ton of money. They were right. In the Ikea cafeteria the Swiss and the Swedes were congratulating each other. Kind of similar demonyms, actually.
Sssh...
No need to speak about that. History does not remember.
Very similar to the Chinese buying up lots of property/institutions around the world, during a supposed pandemic.
@@herrakaarme The gold from the teeth of those murdered in death camps went to Sweden in the form of gold bars. In return Sweden supplied the munitions which enabled Germany to prolong the war. Switzerland, haven for portable looted assets, spent 30 years blocking survivors from claiming their property. There was a partial reckoning in the 1990s, when US courts threatened to exclude Swiss banks from North America unless the Swiss made good on the WW2 claims.
English subtitles are enabled if you enable the German subtitles.
Of course not taking about the places where the receipt of them was the opposite.
My grand father was a forced labourer for the Germans in East Berlin, he rarely spoke about the war, but if he did he always mentioned the few 'good things'.
He never spoke about the many more numerous 'bad things'. By ignoring them he didn't have to relive them in his head.
Since Mr. Heder was admitted to the Bundeswehr after the war and reached the rank of colonel, he personally was cleared of any war crimes.
It just means he avoided retaliation.
The pressure to root out former nazis in the 60’s in West Germany was quite high, so I suspect he was thoroughly investigated.
@@villehilden3339 He was an SSman, which makes him a war criminal.
Someone in the comments mentioned that he was a punisher during Warsaw uprising, which makes him a triple criminal.
The US is well known for employing nazis and other scum to work against Russia, so hypocritical German legal system could be easily manipulated.
Collectively yes, SS was declared a criminal organization after the war. Individually however, everyone´s innocent until proven otherwise.
What I am interested in is what Divisions of the SS, his regiments and battalions, and what years of service he spent in them? The fact that this information isn't forthcoming is a huge tell. British, Commonwealth, and US servicemen are quite proud and will first tell you what units and the Theaters of War they served in. The lack of intellectual curiosity is astounding.
Yeah - he isn't volunteering that information. Wonder why?
@@dhrichardson5798 I find often what’s NOT said that is most telling when people talk.
And when people tell lies they often will tell a long story around the lie but never quickly deny the actual lie.
Because this is a small except from a longer interview where he has already covered this question?
Good point. May be cultural
Eberhard Heder was born on 30th June 1918. He entered SS-Pionier-Bataillon Dresden on 1st November 1937. As a junior officer he trained with the SS-Standarten "Germania" and "Dresden". In 1939 he followed the Junker School Braunschweig and was a Company commander in 1940. With the "Wiking" Division he was deployed to the Eastfront. In 1943 he joined the SS-Panzer-Pionier-Bataillon 5. After this he was the company commander of the Panzer Division "Wiking" and later retured to SS-Panzer Pioneer Battalion 5 as its commander.
After the Second World War he served with the Bundeswehr from March 1st, 1960 until September 30th, 1976 and finally reached the rank of Oberst.
There are *english subtitles* , please enable them.
He should write a book!
May God keep him in his glory along with all German heroes and their beloved Fuhrer
@@lrc9304🤡
Where can I find an interview with Max Wünsche;please?
Wo wurde gesagt das er ein Sturmbannführer war?
Ein Sturmbannführer saß nicht am MG.
eurowarrior, respect
It’s ironic that he looks like a dead ringer for an aged Kirk Douglas
Heder och Tack!
Brave soldier!!
Much respect for this warrior and his comrades!
soldier of a criminal organization
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@@tomtomate3126 tell that to any American soldier....
@@lrc9304 Ok - what is your point?
I respect how he can see what he represented was wrong, even if he thought differently at the time
It must be very difficult
......ein tolles Interview........bitte dringend engl. Untertitel 👍
Subtitles would be nice.
Really touches my heart...
Its ashame that the actions of the few condemn the rest for eternity.
solders only obey ... i would and so would you
@@martinspalding374 Absolutely, the job of a soldier is to follow orders. The vast majority were just that "soldiers" no different to today. Melbourne, Australia
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I'm glad you weren't prosecuting at Nuremberg. Following orders is not a valid defence to committing war crimes.
@@conor3361 of course it is you numpty, what use is a soldier that dosent follow orders ,in today's army maybe but not back then facepalm
@@martys5495 my Dad knew someone in FFL..a Brit..ex Para who joined them..he left after he refused to fire on Algerians fleeing a village in 1961.
Is there any chance that author will do eng subtitles?
Eng subs work fine on my phone
@@TransAmDrifter oh my, did not even check it. Thanks.
Interesting.
Can’t understand a word he says
Turn on subtitles
Click on German subtitles and you get English subtitles for this video
I have his signature with a COA for saleif anyone is interested!
Where are his comments and description of combat on the russian front? What war crimes did he see or participate in? Surely there is more to the story than this small clip....
I am not a holocaust denier in any way. It was quite simply the greatest crime ever perpetrated by mankind. Realize however that not all who fought for Germany were involved with the holocaust in any way. Like everyone else most Germans only learned of it at the end of the war. Since that time there is a constant great effort to paint guilt on all who were on the German side. PAY ATTENTION HERE~ To give credit where credit is due- these brave men kept the Soviets out of the heart of Europe and saved the west. In September of 1939 Stalin had the Red Army already in position and poised to strike first.
Did he talk about the atrocities he/they committed?
diese Scheiße sollte hängen
I think he was in the SS-VT.
The joke is that the place is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed" which is clever in itself and quite funny to those with a mature sense of humour but what's really just hilarious about it is that if you look closely at the front of this store, Sneed's Feed & Seed, you can see a line that reads "Formerly Chuck's". Now, this might go over the average viewer's head as this, THIS, is peak comedy. I doubt anything will ever be as funny as the joke about Sneed's Feed & Seed. Are you ready for this one? So, like I said, the place is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed" and this sign says "Formerly Chuck's", which means that when Chuck owned the place, well, I don't have to tell you...
Eh?
Where the Waffen SS major is being interviewed is a US feed store?
I had no subtitles!
There’s two sides to every story if not multiple sides just as in World War II. It wasn’t as clear cut as people think it was.
you don't know what people think
Sturmbanfuher is that a major or oberst?
Major
Thank you.i know the SS had a different name for their ranks
It's all online. Wikipedia amongst countless others. Full info on each of the divisions. Especially the bad boys: the 1st, 2nd and 3rd SS Panzer Divisions. The information goes on endlessly. That's the fun part about history: You never run out of material. Get tired of WWII? Read about Alexander The Great. Good times.
@@MegaMkmiller Bad Boys? Best soldiers ever, wish we had some of them today.
@@MegaMkmiller
Bad boys?
Zu kurz, viel zu kurz
"Too short, much too short."
WOW BACK THEN PEOPLE WER SOOO STUPID AS TO TREAT THESE BUMS AS SOME KINDA HERO? THAT GROUP WOULD GO TO SM TOWNS N TAKE EVERYTHING FOR THEMSELVES LEAVIN PATHS OF RUINS
These Nazi SS officers were like dogs, what they couldn't take with them they ruined the rest so no one else could have it.
Sorry I don't understand German ,no subtitles
Try pushing "cc", top right of screen.
He said he enjoyed killing women and babies...
English please
Peccato che non capisco niente..
First hand witness !
That‘s the truth !
English subs pls……
So he confesses he along with many others committed crimes. What has he done personally to try to make those and the family of those that he committed those crimes against? He should live a life of shame and guilt. There's no excuse!
4:31 this is so important - he still could not reconcile his own idealism at the time with the crimes that were committed. This is the evil of the way Hitler manipulated people to give themselves over to an insanity and the most heinous and incredible mistreatments of human beings.
Right..the manipulation of policies and ideals that actually worked. Who woulda thought that people could be results motivated?
@@ammalvonnostrand8661 Not much different from the manipulation of the American media , BLM, Antifa and the socialist democrat party.
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Well, he was told also tales and he couldn't put anything against it because he had to take the words of the victors who wrote the history some buy into it others do not because they had contraire experiences that did not match the tales told to the masses!
Here's one such experience: th-cam.com/video/uBv48mxkN0Y/w-d-xo.html
i hope he's not implying that they were war crimes only because Germany was defeated
From about 1939 on in Germany vast majority joined the Nazi party out if self preservation
Not an excuse just a reality
My father a WWII combat vet met many many Germans who despised Hitler
My father actually liked and respected the German civilians he met better than the French.
Especially the respect part.
F.... your father
@@lrc9304 wow..drôle...you are a mighty keyboard warrior, bach🏴
the crimes but in top that we lost the war.....
Hitker killed even German jewish men, who had been urgently needed as soldiers in the German army. Therefore he had too few soldiers against the much bigger arnies of his enemies. Hitler killed German jewish scientists, who could help to developp new and better weapons. Hitler preferred stupid and criminal "Arians". Therefore he dismissed kiritical and prudent generals like Erwin von Manstein, Rundsted, Rommel and Guderian and preferred idiots and criminals like Keitel, Jodel, Schörner, Busch, etc, who were unable.
Das kreig ist vorbei und weile wir kennen es nicht vergeßen, bitte laßen uns das haß nicht beseßen. Gute mensch sei gut, schlecht sei schlecht.
The war is past and while we cannot forget it, please do not be possessed by hate. Good people are good, bad are bad.
Geben Sie ein Interview über das Vernichtungslager.
Ich frage mich, ob er es auch bereut
Bereuen kann dieser ehemalige Nazi-SS-Mann Hitlers Mordlager nur, wenn er von ihnen wusste, selbst beim Reichssicherheitahauptamt, SD, Gestapo oder gar in einem KZ tätig war. Wenn er nur einer Kampfeinheit der sogenannten "Waffen-SS" angehörte" und dort nur gegen feindliche Armeen kämpfte, ist er dazu nicht unbedingt in der Lage. Er selbst bezeichnete die Verfolgung und Ermordung der Juden in dem Video als "Verbrechen".
I wonder how many atrocities he was involved in?
Sturmbannführer und dan mgschütze?
He is talking about 1938. He ended the war as a Sturmbannführer
Und wann gibt euch Dolf persönlich ein Interview ? 🤦♂️💩🤦♂️
Halts Maul, du friss umsonst. Bist es nicht wert, unter diesem Interview ein Kommentar zu hinterlassen
There is something chilling looking at this man sitting there talking. knowing he has probably seen, and caused, more suffering than most men on earth.
Lol you watch too many movies,little girl....
Nie wieder Krieg
sehr gut pz div Wiking.
Yeah Idk wtf he’s saying.
Erschreckend !
Für linksgrünversiffte Gretajünger ganz bestimmt. Das soll auch so sein.
@@czechhockeyfan4403 Feige Socke, wenn Du nur mit Beschimpfungen reagieren kannst.Nur Versager haben so eine Reaktion nötig.Aber auch wenn sie kurzfristig Macht haben, werden sie nicht auf Dauer bestehen oder sich selbst vernichten, wie sich gezeigt hat.
@@anetiedmann5674 Wunschkonzert der linksgrünversifften Öko-Mafia. Lächerlich.
@@anetiedmann5674 Ihr linksversifften Weicheier hättet euch damals schon am ersten Tag Eure Öko-Bio-Windeln vollgeschissen vor Angst, Ihr Chinaschnupfen-Panikkasperl
@@anetiedmann5674 Und gleich für Antworten sperren, das passt zu Euch, ihr linksversifften Windelscheißer.
I hate being a spoilsport, but I wouldn't mind finding out why Hitler and his mob had such a dislike of Jews and others to the degree that they murdered so many?
Maybe because Hitler learned from Karl Marx and Communism , He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx , Lenin & STALIN were RACISTs & HATED JEWS too .
@@motorrebell antisemitism was back then normal in every country in Europe, the US and the SU. Hitler took it over from Vienna when he was a young men. It was more or less the "zeitgeist" back then - just in Nazigermany and the SU it was more extreme.
@@motorrebell
I was wondering, I think there was a time when most religions forbids the lending of money and even gambling, except the Jewish religion. The problems with borrowing money is you have to pay it back and many a war was caused when the gambling monarchy couldn't afford to repay the loans. I understand that one way they settled was to give the lender preferential sales of the prisoners of war who were sold off as slaves. There's records of certain Arabs and at least one Jew who traded in such things.
@@GrumpySam_AUT Yes indeed , So many things happened in the time period between ww1 & ww 2 and its easily overlooked especially due to the World economy crisis , Revolution and civil War in the Soviet union by Lenin & Stalin ( Famines & Mass executions ), in Italy by Mussolini - And the Civil war by Communists with Franco in Spain , Faschism & Communism was a huge problem during the time .
@@davidtanslow3584 Oh yes CORRUPTION is a MAJOR problem thats never mentioned too .
German school books still tell a different story.
what story?
Interesting. I would think he would be in prison for crimes against humanity though?
Using that logic, if Germany had won the war every member of the USA 8th Air Force would have been guilty of crimes against humanity. We demonize all Germans at our own peril. In my lifetime the US government has untaken many actions which I have not approved, but soldiers, sailors and airman have recourse but to follow orders in wartime.
When you are young, in your 20s, you think your leaders know best and are upright. As you grow older, you find out that is not true more often than not. Leaders of nations have the highest responsibility for making wise decisions but many fail profoundly and all of us need to never forget and strive to keep idiots out of power. In the US we have an example of this right now. FJB.
@@vermaxusa So, how about the victims of the Holocoust? Did the 8th Air Force do anything like that?
@@peterecos634 I don't understand the context of your question but both were crimes against humanity....the Holocaust in the millions and allied bombings in the hundreds of thousands. But the 18 y/o tail gunner on a B-17 has much less responsibility than a senior commander like Bomber Harris, who deliberately knew the extent of civilian damage when planning the raids.
@@couchwarrior2449 There were less than 65k dead at Hiroshima and less than 40k dead at Nagasaki. Not hundreds of thousands like you say. Besides, the alternative to ending the war would have been a land invasion of Japan. Care to guess what the American casualty rates would have been?
One wonders how the German military with its centuries long traditions could have been taken in by Hitler and Naziism. Not just with its crazy racial theories but its notion of an Aryan "Master" race. And supposedly a God fearing Christian country nonetheless. Many Jews fought in WW1 on the German side. I knew one. He was my neighbor on Long Island - Leo Cahn. A Jewish WW1 veteran whose whole family in Germany and his wife's whole family too wiped out in the Holocaust. The Germans will bear that guilt forever. And should bear that guilt forever.
Collective guilt? That is exactly the thing that the Jews are blamed for thousands of years (the collective guilt for the death of Jesus), you are playing the same trumpet as the Nazis. Every human should take responsibility that such crimes will never happen again first step to this is to get rid of nationalism and racism of any kind!
@@bildkistl The "Blood Libel" of collective Jewish guilt was an invention of the Pagan Romans who spawned the religion of Roman Catholicism and its offspring "Protest" Roman Catholicism under German Martin Luther. Crucifixion was the Roman method of execution for sedition, any challenge to Roman authority. The Jewish method of execution was stoning. Jesus was crucified and therefore killed by Romans NOT Jews. And the history of Roman Catholicism since Nicea in the fourth century has given us: blood libels against the Jews, Crusades, inquisitions and burnings to the stake, the enslavement and decimation of indigenous peoples in Africa and the Americas, Pogroms in Russia and uthe Holocaust itself. Hitler, Himmler and most of the Nazi leadership were Roman Catholics. The worst were the allies of the Nazis, the Croatian Ustasha in the Balkans. They with the Bosnian Muslims and perpetrated the worst atrocities of WW2. Even the German SS were shocked. Know your history.
@@clarkewi Antisemitism has it's roots in the Anti-Judaism it wouldn't had happened without it, so you are riding the same horse of discrimination as the Nazis did!
@@bildkistl It would be an evil error to try and conflate antisemitism with Naziism. They are mutually exclusive. To condemn Nazi's and everything they stood for is a virtuous and Godly act.
@@clarkewi well I condemn both and I don't need a god to do so!
The name is so german ngl
Zionistscum
YES...ITS DUMKOFF
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There was atrocities on all sides, but killing innocent civilians is repulsive. A lot of dictators have ruled since and the result is no different. History is not a good teacher. The same happened with the Romans, Persians and Greeks. Thanks be to God they lost the war, for our sakes, but at what terrible cost to human lives. Will it happen again ? Don't hear any negative responses.
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If the Nazis had not started a world war, there would have been NO atrocities, and so they ALL belong to the Fascists.
The difference is that Nazis brought atrocities to the next level. What they did in Eastern front to civilians would make sick Romans, Persians and Greeks all together. SS bastards were the worst of the worst. I would hang this SS mothefucker a long time ago....
@@victorrumyantsev3718 Это потому что ты наслушался советской пропаганды)) на войне все средства хороши! в той войне, не были хороших или плохих, преступления совершали все.. только в одной стоне об этом говорят а в другой замалчивают.. не буду показывать пальцем)
То делали НКВД с пленными польской офицерами, не хочешь поведать? как вывели зверства на новый уровень? а что произошло с поляками которые попали в советские лагеря смерти? тебе этот уровень жестокости не интересен? а занимались они каннибализмом, чтобы как то выжить, ну это им не помогло..
Великобританскими воздушными силами и США 13-15 февраля 1945 года, в результате бомбардировок Дрездена около четверти промышленных предприятий города и около половины остальных зданий (городская инфраструктура и жилые дома) было уничтожено или серьёзно повреждено. По оценкам количества погибших в официальных немецких отчётах времён войны до 275 тысяч. гражданского населения. С военной точки зрения их следует классифицировать как военные преступления. Лейпциг 140 тысяч за несколько дней,
и таких преступлений полно со всех сторон..
@@Online-Trading- while I would call the Dresden bombing a war crime its important to note that the death toll was overexaggerated by a lot. Newspapers spoke about 200 000 dead while it was actually 20 000, Goebbels (IIRC) saw this as an opportunity to antagonize England and its bombing efforts to the world
@@benco41 Allein die Dresden hat damals 630.000 Einwohner, ca. 80% der Stadt, 80.000 Wohnungen, 12.000 Gebäude wurden zerstört und nur 20.000 Einwohner starben ??? Glaubst du daran? :-) ww2 Das sind die größten Lüge, die ich je gehört habe und die größte Verarschung von alle Seiten.
How amazing the people who welcomed them, cheered the Nazis on, wound up raped, pillaged, and butchered en masse' for Nazi war crime payback. Hard to shed any tears for them. Too bad more Nazis weren't killed is all I can say. After what they unleashed on Europe, it is no wonder there was little sympathy to be found when it crumbled into the dustbin of history. He's lucky he survived. He has great remorse, he has grown in this life after seen many horrible things.
You are impressed with Deutsche of the Ostreich welcoming the Deutsche of the Reich? How about people from across the Atlantic whose families mostly came from the British Isles or Southern Europe being welcomed as liberators by the Dutch from the scourge by the Deutsche, oh yes the soldiers British Commonwealth were treated as liberators as well. English is a Germanic language and the English speaking world paid the price in blood for the liberation of most of Germanic Europe. Ironic how things have gotten so out of place.
Perhaps this germanic brother war could have been avoided had the british not been so stubborn about Danzig, which in the end fell under the communist terror regardless
@@KrokLP The only difference from the Anglo-Saxon view point is that the Fascists or in reality genocidal NAZI's were Germans, the Communists were Russians, and the Germans are a much more dangerous people. Otherwise from the classical liberal viewpoint of Western Civilization is that NAZI's, Fascists, and Communists were all totalitarians and not a dimes worth of a difference between them. If your people don't come from Scandanavia, BeNeLux, France, or the United Kingdom and it's colonies you don't get it. I am of Scottish and Irish descent whose family has been living in America since 1704, our first recorded live birth in this country.
@@KrokLP We also won the war and funded, supplied, and equipped the Soviet Union in WWII. A little known secret that is highly publicized at the same time. Did you know that fact? The real question if you did not know that the West maintained the East in WWII is why? No intellectual curiosity. It is the most well documented human conflict in history and you could care less about the truth. Good for you.
@@morganhale3434 What are you on about?
@@KrokLP NAZI's are NAZI's. Who cares why a psychopath is a psychopath.