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Hey Max Tech i wanna buy a MacBook pro 15 2019 but i am confused which option is better! 32 gig of ram or vega 20 I know it’s depend to my usage but I wanna know what do u recommend? 16 gig ram with vega 20 or 32 gig ram with radeon 560x please response as soon as possible Best for you
2:50 - How about we DON’T and go an entire video without being stopped to given an ad for something that a large majority of us viewers will NEVER use at all? Can we have that instead?
Yeah! Every time I use a windows laptop I’m like, «why is the trackpad so small, why is it so hard to press, why does it have those buttons on the bottom etc.» no hate on Windows, just prefer MacBooks much more. The sound and mic quality is amazing too though, and it’s incradible thin too!
Bought a MacBook Pro 2017 few weeks ago. And being a long time windows user I'm never going back. Mac OS just works, it gets yours work done without any problems.
I just bought a 20$ battery for my 2012 MacBook Pro. its night and day and I fell in love with it again. to be fair my trackpad got stuck cause the battery expanded.
Lucky for u. I have had 5-6 iBook/MacBook/MacBook Pro since 2004. The quality dropped since around 2010. They broke once about once every year. Wifi card I/o card, cd rom drive, motherboard, etc. I am not confident buying a Mac without AppleCare at all now due to the expensive repair cost. At least it’s usable in 3 years with AppleCare. Thinking about switching back to PC now because of the price and quality issues.
@@zansterling7379 I like the surface of the Magic Mouse as it has touch input and you can do gestures on it but the ergonomics... I would prefer my Logitech MX Master 2s all the way.
They always prefer gestures in all of their devices. iPhones, iPads and Apple watches have touchscreen, Macs has trackpad, touchbar and mouse(there is a touchpad on the mouse for all the gestures including scrolling except clicking and moving), Apple TV has touchpad on it's remote.
exactly right, even with automatic updating turned off, many updates still install automatically anyways I can't count the amount of 3d prints I've lost due to the damn windows updates installing and stopping my 3d print and forcing me to start the 3d print all over again, then finally switched to using a old Mac mini just for my 3d printer and never again have issues like that
I agree with you . My 2014 MacBook Pro it's still a tank. Works very well. I presented a video to a customer and he was surprised how the sound was so good. I render videos in it, maybe 2 or 3 a week and I feel pain for it. I don't have a computer tower and it does very well.
Dude my Laptop Lenovo L412 was made 10 years ago. And still works perfectly until today. Also still run matlab 2020a with pirated or non pirated. a thing that Macbook is not able to do it.
I own a two year old XPS 15. Before I had several MBP. Not a day goes by that I don’t miss my MBP. It was a financial choice. My dell is a decent laptop by all means. Very repairable/upgradable. The speakers are indeed awful.
I've been watching a few of your videos. You have a lot of talent. Your videos lack the fluff that many other youtubers put in to put it past the 10 minute mark. B-roll is beautiful, your voice isn't annoying and you give recommendations and advice based on your opinions. Purely objective reviews are overrated and basically just spec rehashes. I like how you express your personal taste without demeaning others' opinions as well. New sub.
Silent 1969 He must of have a Hyperdrive which can easily replace all other ports on previous Macs. I have a hyperdrive too with USB-C and it’s more than enough to replace my legacy ports
@@BoRerunn Very productive. Can do everything I need that is photoediting, videoediting, surfing, officework and so on. The small size do that I can take it with me everywhere that I go.
@@silent-739 What do you need your ports for? I have moved most of my things to network or cloud drives. I have a dongle but use it 1-2 times a month or so.
@@MyJayK I have an LG Gram with 12 gigs of ram, 2.5 TB of SSD storage space, a nice I5 processor, 1080p screen, great touchpad, all for $999. Price that out on your Macbook 12. Also mines only 2lbs and battery life is 2 days.
possibilities and worthless updates, my windows laptop is always updating in background and sometimes doesn’t even shuts down without updating. atleast we don’t have these issues with macbooks
@@hyadav1 nobody still accepts that most people buy apple laptops just for show-off, my brothe also bought it and now selling it and lost 20 percent value in it. apple is a lifestyle product right now, rich people use it a lot and that makes lot of people buy it.
chandransh Pandey most people don’t do much with laptops nowadays, just some media consumption and light office work. for that, yeah you can go cheap and buy a 30k windows laptop, change it every couple of years, or you can buy a macbook, use it until it breaks
This video kind of ignores the two major points of contention. No one will disagree that they have better sound, trackpad, good screens and whatnot. If all you do is spreadsheets, word or email, get a Mac. My personal laptop is a MacBook Air and it’s awesome. But my work requires me to have a computer that can run several VMs at the same time while still being able to use it. A MacBook that can do this will cost me anywhere from 3000 to 4000€. I need diskspace and ram, and it’s not like I can open them and add it. Also, running games. The cheapest MacBook with a usable dedicated graphics card will cost you 2500€ at a minimum. Windows laptops with similar gaming performance will be less than half as much. Also, Microsoft Windows laptops have had the possibility of supporting hardware encryption for several years. It was curiously also called t2 and you could buy a laptop with it, if you wanted. Again, I use a Mac. My company actually provides me with a top of the line Mac to work on. But the criticism about the price is not for the lower tier model and not for typing emails. If you plan to do anything else that actually requires horsepower, the price increase is exponential
Tpm has beeen available since 2006 on enterprise grade Windows machines. TPM 2.0 has been manditated from Microsoft since 2013 on all windows laptops because of Windows Hello. Tpm is pretty much found on all windows laptops now. Even low end trash sold at best buy.
I don't know what you do with those VMs. But on my 2016 MacBook Pro base model I can run at least 4 VM without any problems (Windows 10 and Ubuntu on Parallels, Debian on VirtualBox and Docker). But in general I don't think you need more then one, usually you can do whatever you want with only macOS (as Unix like) and Microsoft Windows.
@@SuperSerNiko97 I'm going to assume you run the base 15 inch model (because the 13 inch has 8gb of ram only). Sure. 3000 is not 2700 (the price it was when it came out). I was missing 300 (:. Does it change anything in my point? Also, I need those VMs / docker containers because when I develop an app, there are several dependencies that need to be running. Database, redis, other applications, mocks, etc. It's common.
@@RackaApps correct. You cant use full disk encryption when dual or tripple booting since one OS has to have full control over the OS. Be careful not to have any trade secrets on your machine. If your machine is stolen you will have a big problem with your lawyers.
I’m a MacBook user myself, I own a MacBook Pro 13” 2015 Retina & had my staingate screen replaced 3 times free of cost. Still the new screen shows small signs of the same staingate damage. On top of that, both of my speakers blew after a recent update to macOS Mojave. Honestly I doubt after my experience with this laptop about the overall durability of MacBooks in general.
The care you treat your laptop is very much related to its life. My highschool requires each of us to have a macbook, my roommate and I both got a 2015 15-inch mbp, his broke down over a year ago, while mine is working just fine. Why? He bangs his mbp around, leave it in humid conditions and doesn't treat it carefully in general. Buy a windows laptop and see whether you have get the screen replaced for 3 times free of charge and last half as long as you did with the macbook
With all respect, I would like to say that it’s my first MacBook and I took utmost care of it for your information. Never took it outside my house, never put anything not even a slightest weight on it or put it inside any backpack or briefcase. On top of that I cleaned my MacBook with the provided cleaning cloth almost everyday after use.. Just cause you had a great experience with a company doesn’t mean that someone else in the world can’t have worst experience with the same company. ✌️
@@rexpepper1174 That's good to know. The reason i mentioned care is that although i don't have any staingate damaged mbps, I have seen many others with it. I think it is less of a problem with the display coating than the chasis bending. If the chasis is bent inwards vertically, damage could be more easily caused. Still it is good to know that you have screens replaced free of charge, at least it is the attitude we customers would expect of apple.
It’s your badluck mate...after all i agree that notebook and smartphone was make to be use...not for you took care without use...but i have to say, even a windows laptop cannot last you that long...believe me...i bought the same model you have overthere...use for half a year, and gave it to my sis...and buy a dell laptop...after 3 years...my dell slow down too much that it can barely use to watch video or surfing webs...i have to mention that mine dell use core i7 6700hq vs 250gb samsung evo 850...and macbook 13” 2015 only i5 4000 series...and damn, it is still smooth as a new macbook 12” or macbook air 2018 (one from my cousin, other from my friend)...i don’t like macOS but i have to say macbook is like a premium car...expensive but last long and work as its charm...but who know, someone like i am... don’t like new 2019 ferrari but in love with ford mustang 2012...
I was so happy to have bought AppleCare for my las MacBook, it‘s hard to replace SSD failed after 2 years generated so many misrepairs by Apple that they had to give me a brand new one that had staingate. But the repair held until 2018 when I sold it. I use a ThinkPad again.
I own a 2017 MBA and used to own an Acer Helios 300. Yes the latter has more powerful hardware but after finishing my games I sold it right away and returned to my MBA for everyday use. The overall experience alone, responsiveness, ecosystem, seamless use with ios, watch, apple tv, etc is just unprecedented.
That's very cool and I agree with your points, but nobody can deny that apple asking for 460€ for 24gb of ram or 690€ for a 2tb SSD is incredibly scummy. I think that's the reason most people say that apple products are so expensive, because the base price is pretty good but if you actually want a usable laptop with more ram and SSD storage it can easily go above 3000€.
I'm a Apple Guy here.. lets talk about why people are moving away from APPLE Computers, 2006-2011 GPU Issues that break after 7 years or so, 2016 and up Butterfly Key board issues, 2017 and up Non-Upgradable Hard Drives/SSD, 2013-2015 Screen Coating coming apart after 2 years of use... Non-upgradable RAM.... I'm not a hater trust me I do love apple... but they are really pissing me off lately
That would be the keyboard issues that are totally overblown but still have a free replacement program? Non-upgradeable ram is also a feature of many non-Apple laptops too. The non upgradeable HDD/SDD isn't a huge problem because the vast majority of laptop users *never* upgrade their devices. The problem is the non replaceable drives and the potential loss of data, that's the real big Apple issue.
I'd still temporarily stay away from MacBooks until they introduce the first models with the new "scissors switch" keyboards. There's been way too many issues with the "butterfly switch" keyboards due to its tendency to fail in the presence of even a tiny amount of dirt.
Used to be a Windows user. First tried Macbook air, loved it. Now I have a Macbook Pro, and I love it even more. Never switching back to Windows. Besides, I need a Mac for iOS Development.
You forgot something really important... when you get a new Mac, you only get the operating system and full versions of usable software programs built in or available for download. But you NEVER get shareware, advertisements, bloatware, or teaser software to clog up your hard drive and slow your system down. Another plus is if you install software on your own but decide you want to remove it, Apples operating system doesn’t make you jump though hoops to uninstall it and it doesn’t destroy files or leave unwanted files behind. It simply removes the entire app just by dragging it to the trash. There is an old saying...”You get what you pay for.” I am a tech. I used to be strictly Windows. I was a Windows user since 1992. I honestly thought Macs were a kids computer. Something a student could use but not for real computing. You couldn’t give me an Apple product. In 2008 I bought myself an iPod and was blown away by the build quality, look, feel and for the most part, the sound. It was as the until I learned what made an iPod sound great did I fully appreciate it. In 2009 I bought my first iPhone. I switched from a Palm Treo. That iPhone 3GS was nothing less than amazing. In 2010 I bought myself a MacBook Pro after my Gateway laptop bit the dust. After all, I didn’t really need a real laptop. I had a monster desktop PC that I built that could kick some serious ass. I used the MacBook Pro for less than a month and realized that the Mac was a real computer and my PCs were the toys. Adios, Windows. Hello Apple. In 2013 I was so impressed by Apple that I got out of the PC repair business and went to work for Apple as a Genius in one of their stores. I’ve since retired but you still couldn’t, to this day, give me a PC.
lucus lopez a lot of windows laptops these days also have soldered memory/ssd or thermal throttling. It’s just the name of the game when it comes to thin and light devices, unfortunately. Fortunately, external storage is getting faster and thunderbolt 3 allows for really fast transfer speeds, so at least there are some workarounds.
They fixed the thermal issue, and bending screen which I guess you mean the “flex gate” issue, Soldering parts is not new, not only for Macs either. Windows devices have it too, not all
@@Animegami I think you can say the same thing with Windows laptops with Microsoft precision drivers in their trackpads. you might be able to get used to the trackpads. Anyway, Apple is redesigning their keyboards which is great(at least for those interested in a Macbook).
Another thing that is worth mentioning is all of Apple’s MacBooks have anodized finishes. This is a special treatment that gives the MacBook it’s color and this treatment makes the color last longer and keeps the color from wearing off despite scratches dents, etc. Unfortunately high end Windows laptops don’t do this. Razor, Dell, and other companies just use the stand spray paint finish with a protective clear coat in the factory. This works for a few years, but over time the color fades and scratches and dents will revels the metal/plastic’s true colors.
Great point, and let's face facts: The vast majority of Windows laptops sold are sub-$1,000 or even sub-$500 machines that have a cheap plastic or composite chassis, and are made with low-end Chinese components. They are slapped together at the lowest possible cost, and then users wonder why they have to replace them every couple years !
You now need extra adapters to connect your existing peripherals (like USB3 external disks/flash drives). Apple removed the extra ports and just transferred the cost of these to the consumer, adding an extra $100 to the MacBookPro price as you now have to also pay for an extra multi-adapter. There are also hardware problems: Apple recalls MacBookPros from 2015 due to battery issues, problems with keyboard, problems with the touch-bar, ...
I agree 100% with this video & the other comments. I’ve had 2 MacBook Pros since I switched....IN 2007! I’ve NEVER had a hardware failure, a kernel panic, lost data and I’ve NEVER run system resource-sapping anti-virus SW. Ever. No one could convince me to go back. Can’t wait to get the 15” MBP with 32GB RAM & the Vega 20 video card for editing this summer!
I have a LG Gram and never had any hardware or kernel panic either, cept I paid 175% less than you and have more ram and more storage space and a longer battery life.
The best thing about macbook book pro is that it's last forever without out any drop in performance i had mid 2012 and until day it's work perfectly fine with zero issues
I’m using the best of both worlds. My Thinkpad X1 Carbon runs macOS Mojave beautifully while also having a superior keyboard imo an native USB A ports in addition to the 2 Tunderbolt ports ;) Setting up a Hackintosh is definitely a pain in the ass, but if you like tinkering with electronics it’s definitely a fun and challenging task. I can understand anybody who doesn’t want to bother with this, since you completely undermine this feeling of “It simply works”, that many Mac users love.
Regarding point number 16 Win10 upgrade was free for Win8.1 and Win7 users. Furthermore, Win10 is technically free, you can just download it from MS site without a license and it would run with no problems. It simply locks down some minor settings. Office365 online version is also free. In my opinion, Apples suite that comes free with MacOS is not really comparable with Office (or other similar free and open source alternatives) for any kind of non-casual work. Otherwise, I agree with most of the video :)
Been using a Dell XPS 13 for almost 2 years and you know what I'd have to agree with every point in this video. When I get the chance I'm definitely upgrading to the MacBook Pro. My reasons are mainly for speaker quality. The XPS is so quite compared to the MacBook
I have a base line 2014 Mac book air 11 inch and it still runs REALLY WELL. I can do 2d game development on it no problem as well as light video editing on it.
I switched from Windows to MacOS with 2018 15'' MacBook Pro and in terms of productivity .... man that was the best purchase i ever made. I dont use my computer for gaming however, for that i am using consoles. So i guess gamers are stuck with Windows based products. You forgot to mention iMovie which comes with the system for free and even if it is not classified as professional video editing software, to purchase something resembling it will cost you ....
They do slow down... Try using newer OS on HDD and compare it to Yosemite on HDD. But yea, generally it doesn't slow down and even the newest macOS runs better than Windows 10 on HDD.
@iamdxpe Did you read what I said? Macbooks in 2012 and earlier came with an HDD. After Yosemite, you simply cannot use HDD. What I said is still valid as the OS is requiring better drive.
Used to really dislike Macs because of what everyone around me told me, then i tried one of my mates Macs and the quality and battery life made me really consider one for varsity, and now, i can't use anything else, as an Indie game developer i use a (base model 13" Mac from 2015) and it works really well with Unity😗
I used to be a mac hater until I have started using it, people who hate Macbook haven’t even tried it out. The only downside of having a macbook is that it can’t handle intense gaming
But we don't know really know that yet. Only time will tell and Microsoft would be losing a lot of revenue that they don't have a lot of to gain in other areas.
@@techguypaul they are doing that already. windows, once their cash cow, is only accounting 20% of its revenue. MS is also doing really well on their balance sheet , look at their stock price and market cap!
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And I have s 2010 Sony VAIO laptop that still receives updates. No macbook pro from that year receives updates.
Excellent video. It made me realize that Apple isn't just charging a ton of money just because they want to. It made me look at the little things that aren't able to be listed on spec sheets.
I love Apple and bought one as soon as I could afford one ... I’ve used windows Laptops for approximately 20 years before getting my first MacBook at the beginning of 2020 and I’ve never loved a laptop more 😆😁
I love Apple and generally agree that they provide more than Windows computers. But the iMacs are too limiting. No good for games or flight sim. Don’t allow even simple user upgrades, after 7 to ten years they have to be discarded .... not even the monitor can be salvaged. This adds a lot to the real cost of ownership. Feel my pain .... my iMac has just died after ten years service. A new one has a puny 8GB of RAM and no SSD so it needs to be upgraded before it is even ordered. Come on Apple, get with the times. USD$2,000 for iMac compared to $1,700 for a more powerful Windows machine ..... excluding monitor, keyboard, mouse, trackpad, OS, productivity software, free OS upgrades. Wait! Am I talking myself out of a Windows PC? Not really. As even the iMac Pro at $5,000 doesn’t run XPlane 11 - a Basic Flight simulator.
Just like many high-end products, it is the detail make the product feels so different, even you cannot really tell why it has different sensation, but it's there.
Ahem... No OpenGL (at least none that aren't 9+ years out of date) No Vulkan No Nvidia Support Thermal Throttling Proprietary APIs (metal) Now I will agree with you on the build quality, but MacOS is just so flawed... I ALWAYS find myself dual/tri-booting MacOS, Windows 10, and Ubuntu, BUT WAIT! The T2 Chip doesn't allow the SSD, Trackpad, or Keyboard to be detected from non-"certified" Operating Systems. And let's not forget the lack of actually being able to overclock or even having a BIOS. I actually always have to undervolt by around 500mv just to prevent some thermal throttling and loud ass fans. And then there's the keyboard... No need to say anything further
Metal is fast but who’s actually developing for it? Most games that aren’t overpriced on the AppStore use OpenGL since it’s easier to port between OS’s. Not only that, OpenGL 4.x is so much faster and more dynamic than the 9 year dated OpenGL 2.1. Once Minecraft (the only modern OpenGL application I can use without booting up Win10) updates it’s OpenGL libraries, then I may just wipe the drive and use only Win10
@@Nova-dx8hz Two points: * Macs are NOT gaming machines (even with an eGPU, but esp w/o one) !! Someone who knows as much computer lingo as you should should at *least* know THAT ! 🤔 * The T2 chip can be turned *off* in System Preferences...If you're dual or triple booting with Windows and/or Linux, I would think this would virtually be a necessity...again, Duh ?!
Sharky165 I’m very aware of the lineup of Apple’s hardware and their lack of 3D performance. And while the T2 chip can be “disabled” through apple’s “firmware utility” it still doesn’t disable it entirely, just in EFI and MacOS. I just feel that apple should either A) advertise that their machines are not whatsoever intended for intense or prolonged 3D-accelerated tasks or B) finally implement better hardware and/or at least modern universal APIs to back up their claim of a “pro” lineup of computers
Sharky165 I think it has a Vega 64x max which is equivalent to a 1080, so yes it would be sufficient in my opinion as I have a 1080 ti and it does me wonders. But I just feel metal doesn’t take full advantage of such powerful hardware, at least not yet
I gifted my 2009 MBP, to a friend as a birthday gift. She was ecstatic and it still runs to this day - nearly 10 years later. I’ve had 2 new ones since and considering another real soon, but these things are built like tanks!
Today I bought a 15 inch MBP 2018 base model and most people (including some staff form the store) were terribly jealous, like trying to say why on earth I did spend the money on that freakin' expensive machine. I told them (even if I hadn't to do so) that I took the risk for the sake of productivity and I was more than aware that with that money I could buy a Suzuki Intruder motorcycle here in Colombia, but the computer will help me to make more money and the motorcycle won't. Besides, it was my first Mac upgrade since 9 and half years when I got my MB unibody white that still runs fine today with 4GB RAM, 256GB Ssd and High Sierra.
Alexa That’s a possibility unfortunately, the new keyboards have caused some people grief. Rumour has it, they’re reverting back to the scissor mechanism in future models. At least they’re repairing them under a formal program now.
As every brand they got products that are worth it and some that are a total rip off ( like the 999 dollars stand.). If take samsumg as an example there are a lot of products like cases that are way too expensive for what you are getting. But let's be honest if you have the money and need to buy that monitor you don't really care about an extra 1000 dollars.
My wife has a mid-2014 entry-level 13" macbook pro and it's still running flawlessly... would just need to replace the battery now but it's still there! after personally having such a bad experience with a 2000$ Asus G73 ROG 9 years ago (worked for 6 months and then became unusable because of trackpad failure, screen failure, cooling not working efficiently, even the HDMI video output was out of order!) I will never buy another windows laptop. This year, I am at last ordering the latest Macbook pro 16" and I just can't wait to have it. I know I will not be disappointed. Yes it's very expensive, but it's worth it when you think in a long term way.
Longevity of the Macbooks are awesome. I own a Macbook air 11” 2014. My Mac is still buttery smooth. When I was a windows user, I could get at most 5 years of it’s life and either break it or it’s too slow already.
the t2 chip has one massive flaw: It has had an issue for years where if you plug in an external usb 2.0 audio interface, you will get an audio dropout every time the chip syncs time and date or something like that. The only way around this is to buy an audio interface that uses usb-c 3+ or thunderbolt 3. I have two usb 2.0 audio interfaces so if I were to buy a mac (which I totally want to) I would need to replace my interface. This is a huge issue for any music or audio creators.
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The thing that I like most with macbook is the display, I feel the display doesnt make the eyes tired compare to windows laptop. Not sure why windows laptop can't copy the display quality? However the fact that macbook doesnt use NVIDIA chips have been major pitfall i think for profesional (at least so far).
Dude, a new Windows OS generally only comes out every three or four years, and Windows 10 has been out since 2015. That's because instead of making a new OS every year, they keep updating the current one. And on top of that if you bought Windows 7, you could upgrade to Windows 10 for free. What you are forgetting is that Microsoft runs a different kind of business model than Apple when it comes to this... Loved all of your other points thou. Edit: typo
Windows 10 and MS Office cost a relative fortune if you want to update an older machine now, and Office access is only a one-year license ! Total rip-off for bad software !! 😫
Been an Apple user for 27 years now. Everything I've ever owned sits here in my work room...and everything still works. I've had one laptop replaced (17" PowerBook), spoken to Apple Support less than a dozen times. The cost-to-use ratio is pretty staggering, especially if you had the equivalent in the automobile industry, for example. I'm a writer, probably your 'average Mac user'. I've used Windows computers _only when I've had to_ and the results are not the same. I'm not proselytizing, not wanting to turn this into something airy-fairy, but I doubt I would be the creative I am today were I not on a Mac.
- Awesome Display - Good Speakers - Great build quality - Appealing Ecosystem. Seriously, being able to take a photo on an iPhone, edit on an iPad, then inserting into a Mac for programming seamlessly with iCloud/Airdrop is quite an experience. - Ease of use - Unrivalled trackpad. Even really good ones like those from XPS, Thinkpad & Zenbook don't even come close.
Well MacBook pro 15 experience - after one year (covered within warranty) it just broke apart 😂 had to change motherboard for 700 euros since it just died... It's nice that they also changed keyboard and possibly battery (showing 2 cycles but maybe just bc of the new MB? ) But if I buy something for 3000 euros I'd expect it to last a bit longer than let's say my 6 years old ThinkPad e550 that has almost same specs and I had It brand new for 600 😅
I've been using a 2018 $550 Acer Aspire A515-51G laptop and i really like it. I like how it's still fast and i can customize a lot of stuff. Battery is about 4 hours doing basic stuff, 2 hours gaming. Endurance is fine for me despite the plastic monitor back case. Customer service? Dunno but I heard Acer's sucks. Trackpad is plastic, small but nice and responsive. I love how i can customize taps, swipes. Speakers are probably the same as Dell XPS in this video. Additional thoughts: I love how my laptop has sooo many different types of ports that are useful to me (i dont use USB-C). It has an Nvidia Graphics card which makes gaming on the go nice. I like the keyboard b/c it includes a numberpad. Acer laptops have crappy monitor quality though...
I have bought my first MacBook Pro 2017 in December 2016. Unfortunately had issues with screen coating but after several years got free screen replacement from Apple. I doubt any PC vendor would do that. And the most shocking thing I got my free service in Ural (yes It’s just in the center of Russia). They did replacement in a few days like if I was in USA.
As some one who used to to a windows fanboy, it only took me 10 minutes using Mac to finally make the switch, and now being a professional designer, Owning a Mac is a no brainer. the only time windows beat Mac is in gaming.
@@bigdisme5622 "the only time windows beat Mac is in gaming.". No-one buys a £4k computer just to game on. Oh. Wait... . You want to game, don't buy a Mac. It's that simple.
@@21dazzer Wait, so you pay $4k for a laptop that subjectively 'looks better' and has a better trackpad (apparently) and never mind just using a mouse, which makes that obsolete and runs mac os PepeLaugh oh nono no
As time passes products and development of new products get cheaper to produce the more time has passed. The only major difference is ddr4 and touch ID. I dont agree to keep the price up and not lower it as it gets cheaper to produce. So much up charge.
@@bigdisme5622 That's your opinion, and I respect that. Use the PC you prefer, I don't give a frick. You use Windows and you're happy with that, good for you. I like Mac, why do you mind that?
I've used both. Macbooks are great for watching videos but I find them frustrating to get work done on. I work in IT, programming and database. It's too hard to find Apple applications that are as flexible as I need and don't cost a fortune. Apple is selling less and less but still keeping it's profit margins up by increasing prices. That's a big reason they are so expensive. Yes, they have nice hardware but in most cases equally good hardware can be had on a windows machine and any that can't are worth the extra $$$ paid for Apple's bottom line.
Totally understand you bro. macOS is damn near flawless. I also subscribed to Microsoft Office 365 on my Mac. It's a thing of beauty. Apple knows what they are doing. I'm trapped in the ecosystem lol.
there is a BIG fallacy here. why compare a mbp to a xps 13. there are a lot other brands/models that you could had compared to. at a minimum, compare a mbp to a similiar priced pc notebook like lenovo carbon x1. I suggest you look at this: www.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-6th-Gen/p/22TP2TXX16G the price is very comparable and features are better on the x1. add to that x1 has a slightly bigger screen AND substantially lighter.
Apple doesn’t sponsor reviewers like HP or other companies do. People who praise Apple do it because Apple products are actually worth the praise in their opinion.
I’ve been using Apple since the late 80’s, and that’s what I bought when I went to college...a Quadra 700. Anyway, through work and research etc I’ve used both platforms extensively and have to agree the useful life of a Mac has been a lot longer than PC’s I’ve used. For the most part they just work, and like any company apple has had some lemons too, but with AppleCare you pretty much know you’re going to have a functional machine for at least 3 years no matter what goes wrong. So I just picked up an 8-core MBP and had the option to return once all those rumors of the 16” etc came out, but decided to keep what I had because being rumors and such I wasn’t willing to give up 2-3 months of productivity and chase the “update” dragon... If the update is really compelling I’ll just sell this machine at a reasonable loss and get the new one. But for me being a video editor, going from the 2018 i9 6-core w/ 560X graphics to the 2019 8-core w/ Vega 20 graphics was a very compelling upgrade.
I've never been shocked. I know Dell high end laptops cost almost as much as MacBook Pro. For me, paying more for Mac OS, is the way to go. END of STORY!
I own a macbook pro 2016 w/touch bar and i have never used a mouse again. Performance outclasses any windows laptop i have seen and it has the best vm for windows called parallels. Also it works like a charm with my iPhoneX.
My XPS 13 fans scream even when the CPU temp is just over 50C. And there's coil whine on top of that. The intake vents can be easily blocked by my laps. Text looks super slim on high DPI screens in Windows, which is harder to read.
Look up "how to undervolt laptop cpu" and hopefully that helps a bit with the loud fans :/ Also in windows, there’s an option to scale up the display size in settings.
@@goJesusandStarcraft fonts can be scaled bigger, but they are too slim. That's probably why Apple had to design San Franciso typeface for retina display. And the noise thing, the fans scream even when the temp is not high. I set the fan to silent mode, it gets even louder.
This might be true for the base models but it's a fact that the upgrades on ram and ssd are ridiculously overpriced. I mean +400$ for an extra 16 gigs of ram is laughable.
apple use kids to do support. their genius don't really diagnose user's problem. all they will do is to wipe your drive and start from scratch. if there is problem that involve a 3rd party software they will always blame the other software whether it is apple's problem or not. i can go on and on but what is the point?
@@rohithmekala2608 ha ha ha.. Apple's support model cannot work in this day and age, especially if they want to give quality support. quality support is EXPENSIVE, very expensive. If Apple want to make money, they can't give infinite support for their product. That's what is happening at the Applestore right now. They are hiring kids to do a tech's work. Yes, kids has to start somewhere but not without more training and supervision.
As a Mechanical Engineering Student using a 2011 13 inch MacBook Pro (that's right, it's coming up on 10 years old), I can fully agree with paying more (even double) for a MacBook. My MacBook still runs like butter, and keep in mind I'm using MATLAB and AutoCAD multiple times a week, with occasional video editing.
This is the video I was looking for, something that distills the major features which contribute to the higher price of the Macbook. After seeing this, I would buy a new Macbook if Apple releases one with a reliable keyboard. (Note: I've never owned an Apple computer).
Compare to a Surface Book 2 with its freaking Studio Mode that support Touch sensitive pen, with it’s much powerful discrete graphic, proper ventilation with no throttling issues, I don’t know how Apple can justify their Mac price. Not to mention Surface keyboard, which have a proper keystroke and having no issues like Mac did.
Right - never use the trackpad. A mouse is just a necessity. Windows upgraded to Windows 10 for free and have always done free updates. The free apps are nice for home users but there are plenty of free alternatives for the Windows platform. In fact because of the installed user base there are way more alternatives for free software on Windows. And repair and service? Really? From the company with the most punitive repair policy in the world? Forget it - we can’t repair it - it’s cheaper to buy a new one. Louis Rossman “hold my beer”. They refuse to supply anyone but “authorised” repairers with parts. Get your photos back off that damaged iphone. What - they’re not backed up to iCloud. Impossible. Ipad rehab “hold my beer”. I agree on the used value. Very impressive brand power.
i own XPS 15, when i originally got this i paid $1800 on a brief sale. XPS 15 9575. XPS has the worst speakers of all laptops probably... so speaker test was unfair, basically picking worst vs the benchmark. several other laptops even thin and light have tuned audio by Harman Kardon, Bang and Olufsen, and other tuning groups which do sound much much better than XPS 13/15 and probably only slightly less quality than macbook pro. but if XPS is your benchmark to compare whatever.. ya i agree, audio effing sucks on it. as for mic and camera quality, sorta pointless...? sure nice to have better one but i dont think many people are using mac's or PCs for face to face anymore and that's all moved to cell phones now. as for trackpad, Apple wins here as well. however XPS 13/13 for a while now been using smooth glass trackpads with precision drivers which are comparable to mac's multitouch ability on trackpads i almost 1:1 with a few quirks.. and texture wise personal preference if apple's textured glass or dell's smooth glass is better, i like smooth glass on XPS but thats personal preference i can understand both not a reason i would get or praise apple, just preference.. Mac has better error correcting for touch input and knows better when to ignore erroneous inputs. and they haptic system is nice, and decently convincing but once you know and your playing with it the game is up.. as for T2, sorry that can go kill itself, T2 is cancer to the industry cuz apple is using that to lock people down preventing easy fixes and forcing people into expensive repairs or replacements instead. you can do end to end encryption without the T2 anyway. also i dont think any software is using it for encoding/decoding.. given intel HD graphics and AMD Radeon graphics and i haven't seen any application professionally use it when i tired. this should be a big negative point.. as for displays, used to be a valid point years ago, but not really anymore especially since apple just uses off the shelf displays with a color profile now a days and most suppliers supply other OEMs too. my XPS 15 supports DCI-P3, 4K and touch input, and 500 nits of brightness, matching or beating macbook pro (my GF's 2018 macbook pro touchbar for example it matches that display in brightness and is similar in accuracy actually are both bit off in different points of spectrum) machine out of a single block is more expensive however aluminium is so soft and once you CNC it for mass production its all done without any humans intervention, just spun up and sent through. so not that much more expensive, m0st expensive part will be use of the machine for only this production, but if you own the facility doing that work then doesn't matter... sure maybe strong as well however other better materials than Aluminium that can be used and are used, carbon fiber, titanium, magnesium, other things as well, XPS 13/15 use Carbon fiber and Aluminium and offer much of the same rigidity + most XPS models as well as other high end laptops like LG gram also have a MIL spec rating. my XPS 15 (9575) can survive 160G shock force turned off and 110G shock force turned on.. can survive huge vibrations as well, full RSM value sweeps of i forget the range used, which is intense. as for storage, not a valid reason for its pricing infact apple soldering SSD in means product has a reduced life span now with limited reusability... they buying off the shelf flash memory from same people everyone else has to, speeds are all about the same for most part.. and unlike Mac, i can upgrade my SSD within life of my ownership easily! $200 i can get a 1TB NVMe samsung drive (or $120 for 1TB if i dont mind slightly slower options (2,000MB/Sec vs 2,600MB/sec) .. 2TB is stupidly priced, more then buying 1x 1TB sticks. currently but thats soon to drop thats to new changes and ever dropping price of flash storage again.. thunderbolt 3 argument is kinda pointless too, i have 2 full speed TB3 ports and i haven't really needed more... plus my other USB ports carry full DP signal over as well so not like im missing out on high res and high fps output either. like over 4K at 60fps or 4K at up to 120fps. all the other USB ports are fast enough @ 10+Gb/Sec to handle other tasks..but i actually rather have USB A anyway so i use a hub from one of my ports to 4 way USB A.. and i struggle to saturate that unless im going for raid 0 SSD array over each port. touch bar sucks vs touch screen..period.. thats big reason i picked this XPS 15.. my GF has touch bar model, and neither of us thing touchbar is better than touch screen. i have facial recognition (3D facial scanning + fingerprint reader) as do most laptops now a days come with at least 1 function or both.. so again invalid point, touch ID is pointless point to mak.. software engineering is really a valid reason to charge more.. ya tight integration helps make them optimize things really well that's valid point but that can be all done day 1 and cost no team any time or money after... most of the hardware will be same year after year so small tweaks and tuning thats really it.. dont even speak about second hand market LOL mac's are almost designed to fail, in fact im sure they are, my GF's macbook pro has failing screen, beginning to spotlight while opening it., key KB has 3 broken keys they dont work or double press.. i tested adobe premiere out on my XPS 15 9575 with its 16GB of ram, 4K display, Vega M GL graphics (4GB), and intel HD 630 vs my GF's Macbook pro with quad core i7, 16GB of ram, and Radeon RX560 pro (4GB) and intel HD graphics. and result for same video export was almost identical, on first pass mac one by couple seconds, on second run my xps 15 was far ahead..on 3rd test fairly equal again, similar video, i used 4K 100mbps HEVC video..
When you’re considering a PC or a Mac, you really just have to look at what you’re going to be doing on it. If you want the highest performance for the best value, go PC all the way. if youre gaming, rendering, or writing code (for non ios apps) then go PC. if you’re a content creator, photo/video editor, music producer etc, go for Mac for their software and battery. if you just want a email/web browser skip both and get a thinkpad or a chromebook to save yourself some money.
Windows 10 is The last version of Windows and will be update forever like MacOS ,so no is not like before that if you want new version of Windows you need to pay
Valid points which put things in to perspective. However, as nice as some of those things are, people generally are interested in performance and price first. Look don’t get me wrong, you helped justify my MacBook purchase...
Shaun Halgryn yeah, I agree. I used to fixate on performance until I realized that if I really needed ultimate performance, I’d be a fool to buy a laptop instead of a desktop.
my two cents: you can get much higher quality and spec from a similarly priced Windows laptop than you can from a macbook. if I spend 6k on a laptop you better believe I'm getting a windows machine with double the spec numbers the macbook has.
Hold on, did he say you gotta paid for Windows updates? In 2019 there’s plenty laptops that are comparable to MacBooks that are 3-500$ cheaper, with doubled ssd capacity and intel’s 8-9th gen chips that would work amazing with that fast ssd included. For speeds, you won’t notice difference in boot up or browsing with whichever ssd you choose lol, only when transfer files from one drive to another. All it is. Macs are great but not worth the price tag
AzeRTy Block like what? Those that have a dedicated GPU, those are pricy but most of the time worth the money, for people who plays games, 9/10 those laptops with 120-144hz displays, and still could be cheaper than mac/MacBook Pro
I have read that Apple is going to finally use a normal keyboard. One other issue for me, I kept hitting the giants trackpad by mistake. Normally, I keep a mouse in the bag with my lap which is a superior experience for me. I do think Apple does a much better with keeping data secure. However, I need to see the newer Apple laptop first.
Most of the stuff doesn't matter to a lot of people that use a laptop. I use a Zephyrus laptop, it's small enough with enough hardware to run most of the apps. Windows is very familiar to me and most of the people in the world that has ever used a computer in public places like a library, school, university. Mac OS is almost alien to so many people. I tried using it, not a great experience to learn how it works. The file manager is a major drawback for me along with the native photo viewer. And if I had to buy a Mac book with the similar spec of a windows laptop I would have spent 3 times more money. I bought Zephyrus GU502 with 1 TB optane SSD, i7 9750H, RTX 2060 with a 1080p 144hz screen (100% sRGB), 16 GB RAM @2660Mhz. I would have to spend $3099 (vs $1850) on a mac to get something close to it. Some of the differences in the configuration would be a thinner laptop, better screen, slower RAM, slower GPU, slower screen 60hz vs 144hz and probably the least reliable keyboard. My speakers are good, I don't know how good are the speakers on a MacBook, so I don't comment on that. One should not forget about the thermals in Macbook pro. They run fans at slower speeds and let the CPU to throttle. Unless you are looking for a specific work, a PC will always be (much much) cheaper and probably more reliable. PS: I am not an extensive gamer, I use my laptop for AutoCAD, productivity, Games and lite photoshop in that order. Mac will never give me good value. And I am not the only one who thinks similarly.
My work laptop and my personal laptop are macbook pros, so overall I agree... I just want to say that at the start 🙂Dell xps trackpad is often recognized as just as good. Saw a hackintosh xps where they pointed out that " you likely won't be able to tell the difference "
I think MacBook all the way. A friend of mine just recently purchased a HP & it's beed some time since I worked on one. I was trying to help him set it up what a nightmare compared to Apple.
Nice reminders of important facts. I have both MBP and XPS. I think all the talk about Apple nt being worth it is mostly self inflicted pain as they have not been on top of their game lately. The store experience has gone down, they refreshes have been lack luster and they are not listening to their customers like they use to. I Apple made a surface type 2 in 1 product they would rule. No disputing the quality and the points you make. However those who are willing to pay a premium don't want to feel be hind the curve to do it. Knowing that for your money you got it all, you did not mind the cost. Apple gave up ground in my opinion on its own, PC's are still PC's. Surface products in some cases have 2 generations ago processors, Large Bezels, not the latest screen tech and cost a fortune. They are quality made but offer more future leaning while still serving its customer base. USB C, touch screens, tablets that detach etc. Bottom line is Mac is still worth it but without their mojo much leas so. I hope they get it back so I can feel great again spending more for both the best and the latest!!
You might be right, although for that price I buy a PC, 8K screen monitor, home theater with 3d surround sound, a game console, a HBO full year subscription, a couch, 4 beer packs, chips and coke, 3 hookers and a chinchilla pet.
I used to use a macbook air 2018. Changed to a HP Envy 1TB ssd 32GBram....I had to run back to Mac. I bought a Macbook Pro 2018 after 2 weeks with my HP envy. In MacOs things just works. Best computer i have ever had
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apple is better
2:50 - How about we DON’T and go an entire video without being stopped to given an ad for something that a large majority of us viewers will NEVER use at all? Can we have that instead?
should compare macbook wiht microsoft surface line
Ok i won't lie this changed my view on macs
Efe Onobrakpeya He didnt mention the keyboard that sucks.
@@AliAbidalkareem let's pray the upcoming 16 inched mac fixes that
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@@AliAbidalkareem A defected keyboard is replaced for free for four years.
@@johansterk8968 but the keyboard is still trash
The trackpad accuracy by itself makes it a winner, with or without the force touch.
Mohammed Shafei exactly I went back to windows and the trackpad was so shitty 😩😩😩
Yeah! Every time I use a windows laptop I’m like, «why is the trackpad so small, why is it so hard to press, why does it have those buttons on the bottom etc.» no hate on Windows, just prefer MacBooks much more. The sound and mic quality is amazing too though, and it’s incradible thin too!
Whenever I use a Windows Laptop trackpad it feels like a joke compared to the Macbooks
Yea worth an extra $1500 for the trackpad LOLOLOL
yeah its good but the keyboard is pretty shiti
Bought a MacBook Pro 2017 few weeks ago. And being a long time windows user I'm never going back. Mac OS just works, it gets yours work done without any problems.
For gaming, the laptop is still bad. So if you are a gamer, than dont buy a macbook, but if you not, macbook is very good!
@@tgdxdrakoon7019 Yes, that's well known fact about Macs.
But I said WORK. And obviously gaming doesn't come under work.
@@omkarkulkarni9020 How so? I have both a mac and a pc, and they both work well for general work.
@@CMV314 Yes. The general work is subjective. It's different for me. And for me mac OS is more practical.
Um lies. Hope your keyboard works out for you.
Flexgate, keyboard gate, soldered ram and ssd. Glued in battery. Fuck that.
I’m using a MacBook Air mid 2012 that still work perfectly except the battery now holding way less charge. Excellent experience with it
Same with the 2014 MacBook Air!
Bloatfree laptops 😍
You can easy replace the battery by yourself. Takes about 5 minutes.
I just bought a 20$ battery for my 2012 MacBook Pro. its night and day and I fell in love with it again. to be fair my trackpad got stuck cause the battery expanded.
Lucky for u. I have had 5-6 iBook/MacBook/MacBook Pro since 2004. The quality dropped since around 2010. They broke once about once every year. Wifi card I/o card, cd rom drive, motherboard, etc. I am not confident buying a Mac without AppleCare at all now due to the expensive repair cost. At least it’s usable in 3 years with AppleCare. Thinking about switching back to PC now because of the price and quality issues.
Its really easy to fix the old airs. If you wanna try it, you can replace the battery yourself 🤷🏾♀️
I still dont understand how apple makes such perfect Trackpads and such horendous mice
Their magic mouse is really good.
The way you charge it is very bad
@@iclickedonce1537 it takes like 2 minutes to charge.
@@zansterling7379 I like the surface of the Magic Mouse as it has touch input and you can do gestures on it but the ergonomics... I would prefer my Logitech MX Master 2s all the way.
They always prefer gestures in all of their devices. iPhones, iPads and Apple watches have touchscreen, Macs has trackpad, touchbar and mouse(there is a touchpad on the mouse for all the gestures including scrolling except clicking and moving), Apple TV has touchpad on it's remote.
Its macos lol the ease of use and not having to “installing updates” everytime i turn my computer on
Magnus Nilsen i just prefer mac Os i like windows laptops too but the way my life setup its apple oriented its the best fit for me
exactly right, even with automatic updating turned off, many updates still install automatically anyways
I can't count the amount of 3d prints I've lost due to the damn windows updates installing and stopping my 3d print and forcing me to start the 3d print all over again, then finally switched to using a old Mac mini just for my 3d printer and never again have issues like that
Windows updates are once a month and are after Patch Tuesday. Microsoft now rolls them into a single update package for Windows and one for office.
@@bryanmiller476 you can set group policies to prevent this on Windows 10 Pro
@@lakorai2 well im not about to go waist more money on buying windows 10 pro just for that
Hardcore Windows fan here. This made me change my prespective in macs.
Santiago Restrepo only thing i don’t like about windows is the amount of background updates that happen even after turning automatic updates off
Windows fan sound so weird. I guess I'm a Linux fan then:/
same
@@icecrystal0094 I'm an arch user btw
I agree with you . My 2014 MacBook Pro it's still a tank. Works very well. I presented a video to a customer and he was surprised how the sound was so good. I render videos in it, maybe 2 or 3 a week and I feel pain for it. I don't have a computer tower and it does very well.
Dude my Laptop Lenovo L412 was made 10 years ago. And still works perfectly until today. Also still run matlab 2020a with pirated or non pirated. a thing that Macbook is not able to do it.
I own a two year old XPS 15. Before I had several MBP. Not a day goes by that I don’t miss my MBP. It was a financial choice. My dell is a decent laptop by all means. Very repairable/upgradable. The speakers are indeed awful.
I've been watching a few of your videos. You have a lot of talent. Your videos lack the fluff that many other youtubers put in to put it past the 10 minute mark. B-roll is beautiful, your voice isn't annoying and you give recommendations and advice based on your opinions. Purely objective reviews are overrated and basically just spec rehashes. I like how you express your personal taste without demeaning others' opinions as well. New sub.
Thanks! Much appreciated :) Will try to do the same going forward!
I personally love my 12" MacBook, and will never switch back to a PC. Love the design, ease of use, and never has any issues. Great video gentlemen.
Btw how do you get used to having practically one port that's my question
Silent 1969 He must of have a Hyperdrive which can easily replace all other ports on previous Macs. I have a hyperdrive too with USB-C and it’s more than enough to replace my legacy ports
@@BoRerunn Very productive. Can do everything I need that is photoediting, videoediting, surfing, officework and so on. The small size do that I can take it with me everywhere that I go.
@@silent-739 What do you need your ports for? I have moved most of my things to network or cloud drives. I have a dongle but use it 1-2 times a month or so.
@@MyJayK I have an LG Gram with 12 gigs of ram, 2.5 TB of SSD storage space, a nice I5 processor, 1080p screen, great touchpad, all for $999. Price that out on your Macbook 12. Also mines only 2lbs and battery life is 2 days.
They hold their value . I never had to reinstall os on Mac but in Windows always a driver missing or some bull crap
possibilities and worthless updates, my windows laptop is always updating in background and sometimes doesn’t even shuts down without updating. atleast we don’t have these issues with macbooks
Jean Yves Coffy you can download windows on macbook, but not Mac OS on android laptop
@@jeanyvescoffy8315 I meant you can download windows os on MacBook.
@@hyadav1 nobody still accepts that most people buy apple laptops just for show-off, my brothe also bought it and now selling it and lost 20 percent value in it.
apple is a lifestyle product right now, rich people use it a lot and that makes lot of people buy it.
chandransh Pandey most people don’t do much with laptops nowadays, just some media consumption and light office work.
for that, yeah you can go cheap and buy a 30k windows laptop, change it every couple of years, or you can buy a macbook, use it until it breaks
This video kind of ignores the two major points of contention. No one will disagree that they have better sound, trackpad, good screens and whatnot.
If all you do is spreadsheets, word or email, get a Mac. My personal laptop is a MacBook Air and it’s awesome.
But my work requires me to have a computer that can run several VMs at the same time while still being able to use it. A MacBook that can do this will cost me anywhere from 3000 to 4000€. I need diskspace and ram, and it’s not like I can open them and add it.
Also, running games. The cheapest MacBook with a usable dedicated graphics card will cost you 2500€ at a minimum. Windows laptops with similar gaming performance will be less than half as much.
Also, Microsoft Windows laptops have had the possibility of supporting hardware encryption for several years. It was curiously also called t2 and you could buy a laptop with it, if you wanted.
Again, I use a Mac. My company actually provides me with a top of the line Mac to work on. But the criticism about the price is not for the lower tier model and not for typing emails. If you plan to do anything else that actually requires horsepower, the price increase is exponential
Tpm has beeen available since 2006 on enterprise grade Windows machines.
TPM 2.0 has been manditated from Microsoft since 2013 on all windows laptops because of Windows Hello.
Tpm is pretty much found on all windows laptops now. Even low end trash sold at best buy.
I don't know what you do with those VMs. But on my 2016 MacBook Pro base model I can run at least 4 VM without any problems (Windows 10 and Ubuntu on Parallels, Debian on VirtualBox and Docker).
But in general I don't think you need more then one, usually you can do whatever you want with only macOS (as Unix like) and Microsoft Windows.
@@SuperSerNiko97 I'm going to assume you run the base 15 inch model (because the 13 inch has 8gb of ram only). Sure. 3000 is not 2700 (the price it was when it came out). I was missing 300 (:. Does it change anything in my point?
Also, I need those VMs / docker containers because when I develop an app, there are several dependencies that need to be running. Database, redis, other applications, mocks, etc. It's common.
@@lakorai2 yeah my laptop has that too. But i turned it off because is use other operating systems on it
@@RackaApps correct. You cant use full disk encryption when dual or tripple booting since one OS has to have full control over the OS.
Be careful not to have any trade secrets on your machine. If your machine is stolen you will have a big problem with your lawyers.
I’m a MacBook user myself, I own a MacBook Pro 13” 2015 Retina & had my staingate screen replaced 3 times free of cost. Still the new screen shows small signs of the same staingate damage.
On top of that, both of my speakers blew after a recent update to macOS Mojave. Honestly I doubt after my experience with this laptop about the overall durability of MacBooks in general.
The care you treat your laptop is very much related to its life. My highschool requires each of us to have a macbook, my roommate and I both got a 2015 15-inch mbp, his broke down over a year ago, while mine is working just fine. Why? He bangs his mbp around, leave it in humid conditions and doesn't treat it carefully in general. Buy a windows laptop and see whether you have get the screen replaced for 3 times free of charge and last half as long as you did with the macbook
With all respect, I would like to say that it’s my first MacBook and I took utmost care of it for your information. Never took it outside my house, never put anything not even a slightest weight on it or put it inside any backpack or briefcase. On top of that I cleaned my MacBook with the provided cleaning cloth almost everyday after use..
Just cause you had a great experience with a company doesn’t mean that someone else in the world can’t have worst experience with the same company. ✌️
@@rexpepper1174 That's good to know. The reason i mentioned care is that although i don't have any staingate damaged mbps, I have seen many others with it. I think it is less of a problem with the display coating than the chasis bending. If the chasis is bent inwards vertically, damage could be more easily caused. Still it is good to know that you have screens replaced free of charge, at least it is the attitude we customers would expect of apple.
It’s your badluck mate...after all i agree that notebook and smartphone was make to be use...not for you took care without use...but i have to say, even a windows laptop cannot last you that long...believe me...i bought the same model you have overthere...use for half a year, and gave it to my sis...and buy a dell laptop...after 3 years...my dell slow down too much that it can barely use to watch video or surfing webs...i have to mention that mine dell use core i7 6700hq vs 250gb samsung evo 850...and macbook 13” 2015 only i5 4000 series...and damn, it is still smooth as a new macbook 12” or macbook air 2018 (one from my cousin, other from my friend)...i don’t like macOS but i have to say macbook is like a premium car...expensive but last long and work as its charm...but who know, someone like i am... don’t like new 2019 ferrari but in love with ford mustang 2012...
I was so happy to have bought AppleCare for my las MacBook, it‘s hard to replace SSD failed after 2 years generated so many misrepairs by Apple that they had to give me a brand new one that had staingate. But the repair held until 2018 when I sold it. I use a ThinkPad again.
I own a 2017 MBA and used to own an Acer Helios 300. Yes the latter has more powerful hardware but after finishing my games I sold it right away and returned to my MBA for everyday use.
The overall experience alone, responsiveness, ecosystem, seamless use with ios, watch, apple tv, etc is just unprecedented.
That's very cool and I agree with your points, but nobody can deny that apple asking for 460€ for 24gb of ram or 690€ for a 2tb SSD is incredibly scummy. I think that's the reason most people say that apple products are so expensive, because the base price is pretty good but if you actually want a usable laptop with more ram and SSD storage it can easily go above 3000€.
I'm a Apple Guy here.. lets talk about why people are moving away from APPLE Computers, 2006-2011 GPU Issues that break after 7 years or so, 2016 and up Butterfly Key board issues, 2017 and up Non-Upgradable Hard Drives/SSD, 2013-2015 Screen Coating coming apart after 2 years of use... Non-upgradable RAM....
I'm not a hater trust me I do love apple... but they are really pissing me off lately
I agree..... I'm holding on to my 2104 retina 500gb macbook pro. Everything I head about the 2015-2109 macbooks issures makes me value mine even more.
and 2018 battery recall.
@@meadelaney 2014 models seem to be the best option
That would be the keyboard issues that are totally overblown but still have a free replacement program? Non-upgradeable ram is also a feature of many non-Apple laptops too. The non upgradeable HDD/SDD isn't a huge problem because the vast majority of laptop users *never* upgrade their devices. The problem is the non replaceable drives and the potential loss of data, that's the real big Apple issue.
@@MichaelGGarry that's actually the problem. If a drive fails or the motherboard fails but the drive is fine you can't retrieve any data from it
I'd still temporarily stay away from MacBooks until they introduce the first models with the new "scissors switch" keyboards. There's been way too many issues with the "butterfly switch" keyboards due to its tendency to fail in the presence of even a tiny amount of dirt.
They're fixed now
Used to be a Windows user. First tried Macbook air, loved it. Now I have a Macbook Pro, and I love it even more. Never switching back to Windows. Besides, I need a Mac for iOS Development.
My MacBook Pro 13 inch (2017 model) with no Touch Bar is 3 years old and it’s still functions perfectly!💕
When comparing 2 laptops can you put the prices of them on screen.
You forgot something really important... when you get a new Mac, you only get the operating system and full versions of usable software programs built in or available for download. But you NEVER get shareware, advertisements, bloatware, or teaser software to clog up your hard drive and slow your system down. Another plus is if you install software on your own but decide you want to remove it, Apples operating system doesn’t make you jump though hoops to uninstall it and it doesn’t destroy files or leave unwanted files behind. It simply removes the entire app just by dragging it to the trash. There is an old saying...”You get what you pay for.” I am a tech. I used to be strictly Windows. I was a Windows user since 1992. I honestly thought Macs were a kids computer. Something a student could use but not for real computing. You couldn’t give me an Apple product. In 2008 I bought myself an iPod and was blown away by the build quality, look, feel and for the most part, the sound. It was as the until I learned what made an iPod sound great did I fully appreciate it. In 2009 I bought my first iPhone. I switched from a Palm Treo. That iPhone 3GS was nothing less than amazing. In 2010 I bought myself a MacBook Pro after my Gateway laptop bit the dust. After all, I didn’t really need a real laptop. I had a monster desktop PC that I built that could kick some serious ass. I used the MacBook Pro for less than a month and realized that the Mac was a real computer and my PCs were the toys. Adios, Windows. Hello Apple. In 2013 I was so impressed by Apple that I got out of the PC repair business and went to work for Apple as a Genius in one of their stores. I’ve since retired but you still couldn’t, to this day, give me a PC.
Lets not forget all the other functions like overheating, bad ventilation, soldered in parts, bad keyboard and bending screen
lucus lopez a lot of windows laptops these days also have soldered memory/ssd or thermal throttling. It’s just the name of the game when it comes to thin and light devices, unfortunately.
Fortunately, external storage is getting faster and thunderbolt 3 allows for really fast transfer speeds, so at least there are some workarounds.
They fixed the thermal issue, and bending screen which I guess you mean the “flex gate” issue, Soldering parts is not new, not only for Macs either. Windows devices have it too, not all
The butterfly keyboard isn't bad. its just not the best. u do get used to it eventually
@@Animegami I think you can say the same thing with Windows laptops with Microsoft precision drivers in their trackpads. you might be able to get used to the trackpads.
Anyway, Apple is redesigning their keyboards which is great(at least for those interested in a Macbook).
Another thing that is worth mentioning is all of Apple’s MacBooks have anodized finishes. This is a special treatment that gives the MacBook it’s color and this treatment makes the color last longer and keeps the color from wearing off despite scratches dents, etc. Unfortunately high end Windows laptops don’t do this. Razor, Dell, and other companies just use the stand spray paint finish with a protective clear coat in the factory. This works for a few years, but over time the color fades and scratches and dents will revels the metal/plastic’s true colors.
Great point, and let's face facts: The vast majority of Windows laptops sold are sub-$1,000 or even sub-$500 machines that have a cheap plastic or composite chassis, and are made with low-end Chinese components. They are slapped together at the lowest possible cost, and then users wonder why they have to replace them every couple years !
Sharky165 very true
This might be the first video I saw that is NOT bashing Apple. Sometimes people forget what makes them special
You now need extra adapters to connect your existing peripherals (like USB3 external disks/flash drives). Apple removed the extra ports and just transferred the cost of these to the consumer, adding an extra $100 to the MacBookPro price as you now have to also pay for an extra multi-adapter.
There are also hardware problems: Apple recalls MacBookPros from 2015 due to battery issues, problems with keyboard, problems with the touch-bar, ...
i totally agree with you on his other video he said "stop ! dont buy a macbook yet"
Or you upgrade your cables/peripherals, which is usually cheaper. They're pushing people to the new standard, just like they did originally with USB.
I agree 100% with this video & the other comments. I’ve had 2 MacBook Pros since I switched....IN 2007! I’ve NEVER had a hardware failure, a kernel panic, lost data and I’ve NEVER run system resource-sapping anti-virus SW. Ever.
No one could convince me to go back.
Can’t wait to get the 15” MBP with 32GB RAM & the Vega 20 video card for editing this summer!
I have a LG Gram and never had any hardware or kernel panic either, cept I paid 175% less than you and have more ram and more storage space and a longer battery life.
@@bigdisme5622 Let him be, in blissful ignorance.
I was wondering where you guys went (from your previous video employers)! It's great that you're able to do this on your own!
My 2008 Macbook is still going strong, plan on upgrading finally.
The best thing about macbook book pro is that it's last forever without out any drop in performance i had mid 2012 and until day it's work perfectly fine with zero issues
I’m using the best of both worlds. My Thinkpad X1 Carbon runs macOS Mojave beautifully while also having a superior keyboard imo an native USB A ports in addition to the 2 Tunderbolt ports ;) Setting up a Hackintosh is definitely a pain in the ass, but if you like tinkering with electronics it’s definitely a fun and challenging task. I can understand anybody who doesn’t want to bother with this, since you completely undermine this feeling of “It simply works”, that many Mac users love.
Do you dual boot or run MacOS exclusively?
Regarding point number 16
Win10 upgrade was free for Win8.1 and Win7 users. Furthermore, Win10 is technically free, you can just download it from MS site without a license and it would run with no problems. It simply locks down some minor settings. Office365 online version is also free. In my opinion, Apples suite that comes free with MacOS is not really comparable with Office (or other similar free and open source alternatives) for any kind of non-casual work.
Otherwise, I agree with most of the video :)
Been using a Dell XPS 13 for almost 2 years and you know what I'd have to agree with every point in this video. When I get the chance I'm definitely upgrading to the MacBook Pro. My reasons are mainly for speaker quality. The XPS is so quite compared to the MacBook
Apple pays around 3$ for those speakers in their laptop. If your reason for a Macbook is speakers, you are paying an extra $1500 for them lol.
Yes It's Me not to mention everything else that makes up the laptop lol
Yes It's Me You should check out hp specter and Lenovo yoga, they have awesome speakers. It really is just the XPS that has terrible speakers
MacOS and the trackpad is the killer features, nothing even comes close
krt surface does
surface does but nice try
Have you heard of linux?it is way better in every way possible than mac os
I have a base line 2014 Mac book air 11 inch and it still runs REALLY WELL. I can do 2d game development on it no problem as well as light video editing on it.
I switched from Windows to MacOS with 2018 15'' MacBook Pro and in terms of productivity .... man that was the best purchase i ever made. I dont use my computer for gaming however, for that i am using consoles. So i guess gamers are stuck with Windows based products. You forgot to mention iMovie which comes with the system for free and even if it is not classified as professional video editing software, to purchase something resembling it will cost you ....
Macbooks last longer, never slow down ,and the trackpad is the better than all windows laptops.💯Facts.
They do slow down... Try using newer OS on HDD and compare it to Yosemite on HDD.
But yea, generally it doesn't slow down and even the newest macOS runs better than Windows 10 on HDD.
@iamdxpe
Did you read what I said?
Macbooks in 2012 and earlier came with an HDD. After Yosemite, you simply cannot use HDD. What I said is still valid as the OS is requiring better drive.
They don't slow down my ass!
This video is floored on so many levels, it is transparent to anyone with a little tech knowledge!!! do you even buy what you are are selling here?
Used to really dislike Macs because of what everyone around me told me, then i tried one of my mates Macs and the quality and battery life made me really consider one for varsity, and now, i can't use anything else, as an Indie game developer i use a (base model 13" Mac from 2015) and it works really well with Unity😗
Unity is great😂👍Have fun with your MBP!
I used to be a mac hater until I have started using it, people who hate Macbook haven’t even tried it out. The only downside of having a macbook is that it can’t handle intense gaming
5:01 actually this is not correct anymore because windows 10 is supposed to be the last version of windows
phillip hall that is very true, in fact you can only get native end-to-end encryption for your data on Windows with the Pro version.
But we don't know really know that yet. Only time will tell and Microsoft would be losing a lot of revenue that they don't have a lot of to gain in other areas.
Windows 12, the VR version of windows comes out this year. So it is correct.
@@techguypaul they are doing that already. windows, once their cash cow, is only accounting 20% of its revenue. MS is also doing really well on their balance sheet , look at their stock price and market cap!
And I have s 2010 Sony VAIO laptop that still receives updates. No macbook pro from that year receives updates.
I have a 2014 Mac Pro and it works exactly the same as I brought it. Amazing screen and battery life and quality of the design and track pad.
Excellent video. It made me realize that Apple isn't just charging a ton of money just because they want to. It made me look at the little things that aren't able to be listed on spec sheets.
Agreed, so I sold my Macbook Pro and got a LG Gram, best decision of my life.
Yes it's me wdym
Read my comment above. 😂😂😂
I love Apple and bought one as soon as I could afford one ... I’ve used windows Laptops for approximately 20 years before getting my first MacBook at the beginning of 2020 and I’ve never loved a laptop more 😆😁
I love Apple and generally agree that they provide more than Windows computers.
But the iMacs are too limiting. No good for games or flight sim. Don’t allow even simple user upgrades, after 7 to ten years they have to be discarded .... not even the monitor can be salvaged. This adds a lot to the real cost of ownership.
Feel my pain .... my iMac has just died after ten years service. A new one has a puny 8GB of RAM and no SSD so it needs to be upgraded before it is even ordered. Come on Apple, get with the times.
USD$2,000 for iMac compared to $1,700 for a more powerful Windows machine ..... excluding monitor, keyboard, mouse, trackpad, OS, productivity software, free OS upgrades. Wait! Am I talking myself out of a Windows PC? Not really. As even the iMac Pro at $5,000 doesn’t run XPlane 11 - a Basic Flight simulator.
That is exactly why I will always and continue to buy Windows desktop, but stick with Macbook for laptops so I can get the best of both worlds.
Just like many high-end products, it is the detail make the product feels so different, even you cannot really tell why it has different sensation, but it's there.
Ahem...
No OpenGL (at least none that aren't 9+ years out of date)
No Vulkan
No Nvidia Support
Thermal Throttling
Proprietary APIs (metal)
Now I will agree with you on the build quality, but MacOS is just so flawed... I ALWAYS find myself dual/tri-booting MacOS, Windows 10, and Ubuntu, BUT WAIT!
The T2 Chip doesn't allow the SSD, Trackpad, or Keyboard to be detected from non-"certified" Operating Systems. And let's not forget the lack of actually being able to overclock or even having a BIOS. I actually always have to undervolt by around 500mv just to prevent some thermal throttling and loud ass fans. And then there's the keyboard... No need to say anything further
To be fair Metal is much faster than OpenGL or Vulkan, just wanted to point it out. Not having Nvidia supports sucks hard tho as i hate AMD gpus
Metal is fast but who’s actually developing for it? Most games that aren’t overpriced on the AppStore use OpenGL since it’s easier to port between OS’s. Not only that, OpenGL 4.x is so much faster and more dynamic than the 9 year dated OpenGL 2.1. Once Minecraft (the only modern OpenGL application I can use without booting up Win10) updates it’s OpenGL libraries, then I may just wipe the drive and use only Win10
@@Nova-dx8hz Two points:
* Macs are NOT gaming machines (even with an eGPU, but esp w/o one) !! Someone who knows as much computer lingo as you should should at *least* know THAT ! 🤔
* The T2 chip can be turned *off* in System Preferences...If you're dual or triple booting with Windows and/or Linux, I would think this would virtually be a necessity...again, Duh ?!
Sharky165 I’m very aware of the lineup of Apple’s hardware and their lack of 3D performance. And while the T2 chip can be “disabled” through apple’s “firmware utility” it still doesn’t disable it entirely, just in EFI and MacOS. I just feel that apple should either A) advertise that their machines are not whatsoever intended for intense or prolonged 3D-accelerated tasks or B) finally implement better hardware and/or at least modern universal APIs to back up their claim of a “pro” lineup of computers
Sharky165 I think it has a Vega 64x max which is equivalent to a 1080, so yes it would be sufficient in my opinion as I have a 1080 ti and it does me wonders. But I just feel metal doesn’t take full advantage of such powerful hardware, at least not yet
I gifted my 2009 MBP, to a friend as a birthday gift. She was ecstatic and it still runs to this day - nearly 10 years later. I’ve had 2 new ones since and considering another real soon, but these things are built like tanks!
Today I bought a 15 inch MBP 2018 base model and most people (including some staff form the store) were terribly jealous, like trying to say why on earth I did spend the money on that freakin' expensive machine. I told them (even if I hadn't to do so) that I took the risk for the sake of productivity and I was more than aware that with that money I could buy a Suzuki Intruder motorcycle here in Colombia, but the computer will help me to make more money and the motorcycle won't. Besides, it was my first Mac upgrade since 9 and half years when I got my MB unibody white that still runs fine today with 4GB RAM, 256GB Ssd and High Sierra.
Rafael H. Escobar 1 week later: Keyboard stops working
Rafael H. Escobar True, they really do pay themselves back over time - several times over. Enjoy your purchase, I trust it will bring you many years.
Alexa That’s a possibility unfortunately, the new keyboards have caused some people grief. Rumour has it, they’re reverting back to the scissor mechanism in future models. At least they’re repairing them under a formal program now.
@@MarsorryIckuatuna yeah, I hope so!
And that's why they get to charge $999 for a monitor stand.
As every brand they got products that are worth it and some that are a total rip off ( like the 999 dollars stand.). If take samsumg as an example there are a lot of products like cases that are way too expensive for what you are getting. But let's be honest if you have the money and need to buy that monitor you don't really care about an extra 1000 dollars.
Yeah bcz yall stupid
My wife has a mid-2014 entry-level 13" macbook pro and it's still running flawlessly... would just need to replace the battery now but it's still there! after personally having such a bad experience with a 2000$ Asus G73 ROG 9 years ago (worked for 6 months and then became unusable because of trackpad failure, screen failure, cooling not working efficiently, even the HDMI video output was out of order!) I will never buy another windows laptop. This year, I am at last ordering the latest Macbook pro 16" and I just can't wait to have it. I know I will not be disappointed. Yes it's very expensive, but it's worth it when you think in a long term way.
Those speakers blew my mind 🤯
Longevity of the Macbooks are awesome. I own a Macbook air 11” 2014. My Mac is still buttery smooth. When I was a windows user, I could get at most 5 years of it’s life and either break it or it’s too slow already.
Darwin Cruz Try a new macbook.
Thank u so much u just convinced me back to MacBook Pro from windows
the t2 chip has one massive flaw: It has had an issue for years where if you plug in an external usb 2.0 audio interface, you will get an audio dropout every time the chip syncs time and date or something like that. The only way around this is to buy an audio interface that uses usb-c 3+ or thunderbolt 3. I have two usb 2.0 audio interfaces so if I were to buy a mac (which I totally want to) I would need to replace my interface. This is a huge issue for any music or audio creators.
What is that sick blue liquid wallpaper you guys are using on that MacBook Pro you have in the video?
ascatraz It’s “Creative blue abstract hand-painted background” from stock.adobe.com. It’s one of the many close-up fragments of a larger acrylic painting.
Image ID: 208798965
The thing that I like most with macbook is the display, I feel the display doesnt make the eyes tired compare to windows laptop. Not sure why windows laptop can't copy the display quality? However the fact that macbook doesnt use NVIDIA chips have been major pitfall i think for profesional (at least so far).
Dude, a new Windows OS generally only comes out every three or four years, and Windows 10 has been out since 2015. That's because instead of making a new OS every year, they keep updating the current one. And on top of that if you bought Windows 7, you could upgrade to Windows 10 for free.
What you are forgetting is that Microsoft runs a different kind of business model than Apple when it comes to this...
Loved all of your other points thou.
Edit: typo
It looks like the new strategy for Microsoft is to keep Windows 10 and update it rather than making a new one.
Windows 10 and MS Office cost a relative fortune if you want to update an older machine now, and Office access is only a one-year license ! Total rip-off for bad software !! 😫
Been an Apple user for 27 years now. Everything I've ever owned sits here in my work room...and everything still works. I've had one laptop replaced (17" PowerBook), spoken to Apple Support less than a dozen times. The cost-to-use ratio is pretty staggering, especially if you had the equivalent in the automobile industry, for example. I'm a writer, probably your 'average Mac user'. I've used Windows computers _only when I've had to_ and the results are not the same. I'm not proselytizing, not wanting to turn this into something airy-fairy, but I doubt I would be the creative I am today were I not on a Mac.
Actually the keyboard issue is my concern for not buying it now
wait till 2020
@@rohithmekala2608 Actually wait for the new chassis. If the 2020 model comes out in the same chassis it will 100% have the same keyboard issues.
@@turquoisegreene9625 actually no, the scissor switch magic keyboard mechanism changed everything, no jams or anything and a good keyboard feel
- Awesome Display
- Good Speakers
- Great build quality
- Appealing Ecosystem. Seriously, being able to take a photo on an iPhone, edit on an iPad, then inserting into a Mac for programming seamlessly with iCloud/Airdrop is quite an experience.
- Ease of use
- Unrivalled trackpad. Even really good ones like those from XPS, Thinkpad & Zenbook don't even come close.
Me: Why are you so expensive!?
Apple: Yes
Well MacBook pro 15 experience - after one year (covered within warranty) it just broke apart 😂 had to change motherboard for 700 euros since it just died... It's nice that they also changed keyboard and possibly battery (showing 2 cycles but maybe just bc of the new MB? ) But if I buy something for 3000 euros I'd expect it to last a bit longer than let's say my 6 years old ThinkPad e550 that has almost same specs and I had It brand new for 600 😅
Acer aspire costs half the price of the low end macbooks and have more performance but only if you don’t mind the build quality
Nielsf2704
How’s the battery?
How’s the endurance?
Customer service?
Trackpad?
Speakers?
Nielsf2704 yea I do mind everything no thanks
I've been using a 2018 $550 Acer Aspire A515-51G laptop and i really like it. I like how it's still fast and i can customize a lot of stuff.
Battery is about 4 hours doing basic stuff, 2 hours gaming.
Endurance is fine for me despite the plastic monitor back case.
Customer service? Dunno but I heard Acer's sucks.
Trackpad is plastic, small but nice and responsive. I love how i can customize taps, swipes.
Speakers are probably the same as Dell XPS in this video.
Additional thoughts: I love how my laptop has sooo many different types of ports that are useful to me (i dont use USB-C). It has an Nvidia Graphics card which makes gaming on the go nice. I like the keyboard b/c it includes a numberpad. Acer laptops have crappy monitor quality though...
Justin Zero I’m using I’m $3800 Mac Pro and I love it
I have bought my first MacBook Pro 2017 in December 2016. Unfortunately had issues with screen coating but after several years got free screen replacement from Apple. I doubt any PC vendor would do that. And the most shocking thing I got my free service in Ural (yes It’s just in the center of Russia). They did replacement in a few days like if I was in USA.
As some one who used to to a windows fanboy, it only took me 10 minutes using Mac to finally make the switch,
and now being a professional designer, Owning a Mac is a no brainer. the only time windows beat Mac is in gaming.
Connect an egpu and there goes windows!
Hows fortnite running at 4k resolution, bet its amazing on that Macbook you paid $4000 for?
@@bigdisme5622 "the only time windows beat Mac is in gaming.". No-one buys a £4k computer just to game on. Oh. Wait... . You want to game, don't buy a Mac. It's that simple.
@@rajatverma8692 Yep, just pay an extra $500 for that and laugh while your cpu throttles after a minute of gaming.
@@21dazzer Wait, so you pay $4k for a laptop that subjectively 'looks better' and has a better trackpad (apparently) and never mind just using a mouse, which makes that obsolete and runs mac os PepeLaugh oh nono no
As time passes products and development of new products get cheaper to produce the more time has passed. The only major difference is ddr4 and touch ID. I dont agree to keep the price up and not lower it as it gets cheaper to produce. So much up charge.
I was a long time Windows user, but when I bought a MacBook Pro 2018 I was superimpressed. Never going back! The quality of it is just amazing!
Drop that Macbook from 5 feet, tell me how the quality is of it.
LOL dude dropped a comment then deleted it. You can drop a LG Gram from very high and it will be AOK, macbooks are premium JUNK!
@@bigdisme5622 th-cam.com/video/0qE-kNyvkig/w-d-xo.html
@@bigdisme5622 That's your opinion, and I respect that. Use the PC you prefer, I don't give a frick. You use Windows and you're happy with that, good for you. I like Mac, why do you mind that?
I've used both. Macbooks are great for watching videos but I find them frustrating to get work done on. I work in IT, programming and database. It's too hard to find Apple applications that are as flexible as I need and don't cost a fortune. Apple is selling less and less but still keeping it's profit margins up by increasing prices. That's a big reason they are so expensive. Yes, they have nice hardware but in most cases equally good hardware can be had on a windows machine and any that can't are worth the extra $$$ paid for Apple's bottom line.
I just ordered my first Apple products: the iPad Pro and Mac Mini. I am sick fixing problems on Android, Windows/ Linux ....
Peter Pan Linux is understandable.. but you PAID for windows just to come around annoying forced updates, crashes, driver/ graphical bugs etc. Etc.
Peter Pan Linux is understandable.. but you PAID for windows just to come around annoying forced updates, crashes, driver/ graphical bugs etc. Etc.
Totally understand you bro. macOS is damn near flawless. I also subscribed to Microsoft Office 365 on my Mac. It's a thing of beauty. Apple knows what they are doing. I'm trapped in the ecosystem lol.
there is a BIG fallacy here. why compare a mbp to a xps 13. there are a lot other brands/models that you could had compared to. at a minimum, compare a mbp to a similiar priced pc notebook like lenovo carbon x1. I suggest you look at this: www.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-6th-Gen/p/22TP2TXX16G the price is very comparable and features are better on the x1. add to that x1 has a slightly bigger screen AND substantially lighter.
Excellent video, clear explanation why macbooks are expensive apple should pay you
They did.
Apple doesn’t sponsor reviewers like HP or other companies do. People who praise Apple do it because Apple products are actually worth the praise in their opinion.
I’ve been using Apple since the late 80’s, and that’s what I bought when I went to college...a Quadra 700. Anyway, through work and research etc I’ve used both platforms extensively and have to agree the useful life of a Mac has been a lot longer than PC’s I’ve used. For the most part they just work, and like any company apple has had some lemons too, but with AppleCare you pretty much know you’re going to have a functional machine for at least 3 years no matter what goes wrong. So I just picked up an 8-core MBP and had the option to return once all those rumors of the 16” etc came out, but decided to keep what I had because being rumors and such I wasn’t willing to give up 2-3 months of productivity and chase the “update” dragon... If the update is really compelling I’ll just sell this machine at a reasonable loss and get the new one. But for me being a video editor, going from the 2018 i9 6-core w/ 560X graphics to the 2019 8-core w/ Vega 20 graphics was a very compelling upgrade.
Yea you are 100% wrong.
I've never been shocked. I know Dell high end laptops cost almost as much as MacBook Pro. For me, paying more for Mac OS, is the way to go. END of STORY!
Fred Hall *Opinions!
Alexa Explain His and my opinion please. (:
When you are slow and unproductive in life, Apple is your only choice.
Yes It's Me LOL, I agree as that’s me. (:
I own a macbook pro 2016 w/touch bar and i have never used a mouse again. Performance outclasses any windows laptop i have seen and it has the best vm for windows called parallels. Also it works like a charm with my iPhoneX.
My XPS 13 fans scream even when the CPU temp is just over 50C. And there's coil whine on top of that. The intake vents can be easily blocked by my laps.
Text looks super slim on high DPI screens in Windows, which is harder to read.
Look up "how to undervolt laptop cpu" and hopefully that helps a bit with the loud fans :/
Also in windows, there’s an option to scale up the display size in settings.
@@goJesusandStarcraft fonts can be scaled bigger, but they are too slim. That's probably why Apple had to design San Franciso typeface for retina display.
And the noise thing, the fans scream even when the temp is not high. I set the fan to silent mode, it gets even louder.
This might be true for the base models but it's a fact that the upgrades on ram and ssd are ridiculously overpriced. I mean +400$ for an extra 16 gigs of ram is laughable.
Louis Rossmann would cry when you start telling about customer support
lol
apple use kids to do support. their genius don't really diagnose user's problem. all they will do is to wipe your drive and start from scratch. if there is problem that involve a 3rd party software they will always blame the other software whether it is apple's problem or not. i can go on and on but what is the point?
It might be shitty but it exists
its better than other it companies
@@rohithmekala2608 ha ha ha.. Apple's support model cannot work in this day and age, especially if they want to give quality support. quality support is EXPENSIVE, very expensive. If Apple want to make money, they can't give infinite support for their product. That's what is happening at the Applestore right now. They are hiring kids to do a tech's work. Yes, kids has to start somewhere but not without more training and supervision.
As a Mechanical Engineering Student using a 2011 13 inch MacBook Pro (that's right, it's coming up on 10 years old), I can fully agree with paying more (even double) for a MacBook. My MacBook still runs like butter, and keep in mind I'm using MATLAB and AutoCAD multiple times a week, with occasional video editing.
This is the video I was looking for, something that distills the major features which contribute to the higher price of the Macbook. After seeing this, I would buy a new Macbook if Apple releases one with a reliable keyboard. (Note: I've never owned an Apple computer).
19thHour
I just got my first MacBook Pro last week and it’s even better than I imagined it to be.
Im waiting for new macbooks with new keyboards. For me the new macbook with best battery duration wins
Still think it’s ridiculous to offer a “Pro” machine with 128g of SSD that’s soldered on so you can’t even expand it yourself. That’s just greed.
Compare to a Surface Book 2 with its freaking Studio Mode that support Touch sensitive pen, with it’s much powerful discrete graphic, proper ventilation with no throttling issues, I don’t know how Apple can justify their Mac price. Not to mention Surface keyboard, which have a proper keystroke and having no issues like Mac did.
Right - never use the trackpad. A mouse is just a necessity. Windows upgraded to Windows 10 for free and have always done free updates. The free apps are nice for home users but there are plenty of free alternatives for the Windows platform. In fact because of the installed user base there are way more alternatives for free software on Windows. And repair and service? Really? From the company with the most punitive repair policy in the world? Forget it - we can’t repair it - it’s cheaper to buy a new one. Louis Rossman “hold my beer”. They refuse to supply anyone but “authorised” repairers with parts. Get your photos back off that damaged iphone. What - they’re not backed up to iCloud. Impossible. Ipad rehab “hold my beer”. I agree on the used value. Very impressive brand power.
i own XPS 15, when i originally got this i paid $1800 on a brief sale. XPS 15 9575.
XPS has the worst speakers of all laptops probably... so speaker test was unfair, basically picking worst vs the benchmark. several other laptops even thin and light have tuned audio by Harman Kardon, Bang and Olufsen, and other tuning groups which do sound much much better than XPS 13/15 and probably only slightly less quality than macbook pro. but if XPS is your benchmark to compare whatever.. ya i agree, audio effing sucks on it. as for mic and camera quality, sorta pointless...? sure nice to have better one but i dont think many people are using mac's or PCs for face to face anymore and that's all moved to cell phones now.
as for trackpad, Apple wins here as well. however XPS 13/13 for a while now been using smooth glass trackpads with precision drivers which are comparable to mac's multitouch ability on trackpads i almost 1:1 with a few quirks.. and texture wise personal preference if apple's textured glass or dell's smooth glass is better, i like smooth glass on XPS but thats personal preference i can understand both not a reason i would get or praise apple, just preference.. Mac has better error correcting for touch input and knows better when to ignore erroneous inputs. and they haptic system is nice, and decently convincing but once you know and your playing with it the game is up..
as for T2, sorry that can go kill itself, T2 is cancer to the industry cuz apple is using that to lock people down preventing easy fixes and forcing people into expensive repairs or replacements instead. you can do end to end encryption without the T2 anyway. also i dont think any software is using it for encoding/decoding.. given intel HD graphics and AMD Radeon graphics and i haven't seen any application professionally use it when i tired. this should be a big negative point..
as for displays, used to be a valid point years ago, but not really anymore especially since apple just uses off the shelf displays with a color profile now a days and most suppliers supply other OEMs too. my XPS 15 supports DCI-P3, 4K and touch input, and 500 nits of brightness, matching or beating macbook pro (my GF's 2018 macbook pro touchbar for example it matches that display in brightness and is similar in accuracy actually are both bit off in different points of spectrum)
machine out of a single block is more expensive however aluminium is so soft and once you CNC it for mass production its all done without any humans intervention, just spun up and sent through. so not that much more expensive, m0st expensive part will be use of the machine for only this production, but if you own the facility doing that work then doesn't matter... sure maybe strong as well however other better materials than Aluminium that can be used and are used, carbon fiber, titanium, magnesium, other things as well, XPS 13/15 use Carbon fiber and Aluminium and offer much of the same rigidity + most XPS models as well as other high end laptops like LG gram also have a MIL spec rating. my XPS 15 (9575) can survive 160G shock force turned off and 110G shock force turned on.. can survive huge vibrations as well, full RSM value sweeps of i forget the range used, which is intense.
as for storage, not a valid reason for its pricing infact apple soldering SSD in means product has a reduced life span now with limited reusability... they buying off the shelf flash memory from same people everyone else has to, speeds are all about the same for most part.. and unlike Mac, i can upgrade my SSD within life of my ownership easily! $200 i can get a 1TB NVMe samsung drive (or $120 for 1TB if i dont mind slightly slower options (2,000MB/Sec vs 2,600MB/sec) .. 2TB is stupidly priced, more then buying 1x 1TB sticks. currently but thats soon to drop thats to new changes and ever dropping price of flash storage again..
thunderbolt 3 argument is kinda pointless too, i have 2 full speed TB3 ports and i haven't really needed more... plus my other USB ports carry full DP signal over as well so not like im missing out on high res and high fps output either. like over 4K at 60fps or 4K at up to 120fps. all the other USB ports are fast enough @ 10+Gb/Sec to handle other tasks..but i actually rather have USB A anyway so i use a hub from one of my ports to 4 way USB A.. and i struggle to saturate that unless im going for raid 0 SSD array over each port.
touch bar sucks vs touch screen..period.. thats big reason i picked this XPS 15.. my GF has touch bar model, and neither of us thing touchbar is better than touch screen.
i have facial recognition (3D facial scanning + fingerprint reader) as do most laptops now a days come with at least 1 function or both.. so again invalid point, touch ID is pointless point to mak..
software engineering is really a valid reason to charge more.. ya tight integration helps make them optimize things really well that's valid point but that can be all done day 1 and cost no team any time or money after... most of the hardware will be same year after year so small tweaks and tuning thats really it..
dont even speak about second hand market LOL mac's are almost designed to fail, in fact im sure they are, my GF's macbook pro has failing screen, beginning to spotlight while opening it., key KB has 3 broken keys they dont work or double press..
i tested adobe premiere out on my XPS 15 9575 with its 16GB of ram, 4K display, Vega M GL graphics (4GB), and intel HD 630 vs my GF's Macbook pro with quad core i7, 16GB of ram, and Radeon RX560 pro (4GB) and intel HD graphics. and result for same video export was almost identical, on first pass mac one by couple seconds, on second run my xps 15 was far ahead..on 3rd test fairly equal again, similar video, i used 4K 100mbps HEVC video..
When you’re considering a PC or a Mac, you really just have to look at what you’re going to be doing on it. If you want the highest performance for the best value, go PC all the way. if youre gaming, rendering, or writing code (for non ios apps) then go PC. if you’re a content creator, photo/video editor, music producer etc, go for Mac for their software and battery. if you just want a email/web browser skip both and get a thinkpad or a chromebook to save yourself some money.
Windows 10 is The last version of Windows and will be update forever like MacOS ,so no is not like before that if you want new version of Windows you need to pay
Yeah... I don't thinks so, they say so but nope. As soon as Win 10 does not bring money to Microsoft anymore they will push a new Windows.
Joshi's Animation Studio i Don’t think so every new device still need a new license and people don’t stick forever with their PC’s
Valid points which put things in to perspective. However, as nice as some of those things are, people generally are interested in performance and price first. Look don’t get me wrong, you helped justify my MacBook purchase...
Shaun Halgryn yeah, I agree. I used to fixate on performance until I realized that if I really needed ultimate performance, I’d be a fool to buy a laptop instead of a desktop.
You can get free Windows updates on microsofts website, it's a large file that contains the OS
not really free like you think, cuz without a paid for activation key it becomes useless after about one month
my two cents: you can get much higher quality and spec from a similarly priced Windows laptop than you can from a macbook. if I spend 6k on a laptop you better believe I'm getting a windows machine with double the spec numbers the macbook has.
Hold on, did he say you gotta paid for Windows updates? In 2019 there’s plenty laptops that are comparable to MacBooks that are 3-500$ cheaper, with doubled ssd capacity and intel’s 8-9th gen chips that would work amazing with that fast ssd included. For speeds, you won’t notice difference in boot up or browsing with whichever ssd you choose lol, only when transfer files from one drive to another. All it is. Macs are great but not worth the price tag
Some windows laptops are even more overpriced
AzeRTy Block like what? Those that have a dedicated GPU, those are pricy but most of the time worth the money, for people who plays games, 9/10 those laptops with 120-144hz displays, and still could be cheaper than mac/MacBook Pro
I have read that Apple is going to finally use a normal keyboard. One other issue for me, I kept hitting the giants trackpad by mistake. Normally, I keep a mouse in the bag with my lap which is a superior experience for me. I do think Apple does a much better with keeping data secure. However, I need to see the newer Apple laptop first.
People don't realize how important peak screen brightness really is for overall usability.
im one of them. i use my Windows laptop at like 50% brightness indoors and 75% outdoors so i dont see how important peak screen brightness is
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Lol because we all use our laptops in the blazing sun
@@_Digitalguy That doesn't sound toooooo healthy but you do you.
You’ll become blind for so much artificial light going into your eyes 🙈
Most of the stuff doesn't matter to a lot of people that use a laptop. I use a Zephyrus laptop, it's small enough with enough hardware to run most of the apps. Windows is very familiar to me and most of the people in the world that has ever used a computer in public places like a library, school, university. Mac OS is almost alien to so many people. I tried using it, not a great experience to learn how it works. The file manager is a major drawback for me along with the native photo viewer.
And if I had to buy a Mac book with the similar spec of a windows laptop I would have spent 3 times more money. I bought Zephyrus GU502 with 1 TB optane SSD, i7 9750H, RTX 2060 with a 1080p 144hz screen (100% sRGB), 16 GB RAM @2660Mhz. I would have to spend $3099 (vs $1850) on a mac to get something close to it. Some of the differences in the configuration would be a thinner laptop, better screen, slower RAM, slower GPU, slower screen 60hz vs 144hz and probably the least reliable keyboard. My speakers are good, I don't know how good are the speakers on a MacBook, so I don't comment on that. One should not forget about the thermals in Macbook pro. They run fans at slower speeds and let the CPU to throttle.
Unless you are looking for a specific work, a PC will always be (much much) cheaper and probably more reliable.
PS: I am not an extensive gamer, I use my laptop for AutoCAD, productivity, Games and lite photoshop in that order. Mac will never give me good value. And I am not the only one who thinks similarly.
Loius would disagree
My work laptop and my personal laptop are macbook pros, so overall I agree... I just want to say that at the start 🙂Dell xps trackpad is often recognized as just as good. Saw a hackintosh xps where they pointed out that " you likely won't be able to tell the difference "
I don't agree about the trackpads. I'm a Dell xps owner myself and I really like it, but the MacBook Air I used to own had a much better trackpad.
I think MacBook all the way. A friend of mine just recently purchased a HP & it's beed some time since I worked on one. I was trying to help him set it up what a nightmare compared to Apple.
Nice reminders of important facts. I have both MBP and XPS. I think all the talk about Apple nt being worth it is mostly self inflicted pain as they have not been on top of their game lately. The store experience has gone down, they refreshes have been lack luster and they are not listening to their customers like they use to. I Apple made a surface type 2 in 1 product they would rule. No disputing the quality and the points you make. However those who are willing to pay a premium don't want to feel be hind the curve to do it. Knowing that for your money you got it all, you did not mind the cost. Apple gave up ground in my opinion on its own, PC's are still PC's. Surface products in some cases have 2 generations ago processors, Large Bezels, not the latest screen tech and cost a fortune. They are quality made but offer more future leaning while still serving its customer base. USB C, touch screens, tablets that detach etc. Bottom line is Mac is still worth it but without their mojo much leas so. I hope they get it back so I can feel great again spending more for both the best and the latest!!
I wanted to skip this video but felt I should leave it a little more. Totally worth watching.
You might be right, although for that price I buy a PC, 8K screen monitor, home theater with 3d surround sound, a game console, a HBO full year subscription, a couch, 4 beer packs, chips and coke, 3 hookers and a chinchilla pet.
I used to use a macbook air 2018. Changed to a HP Envy 1TB ssd 32GBram....I had to run back to Mac. I bought a Macbook Pro 2018 after 2 weeks with my HP envy. In MacOs things just works. Best computer i have ever had