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The fact that the new Ninja 500 is only a few hundred dollars higher than the old 2006 Ninja 500's MSRP is an accomplishment in itself.
Kawasaki Heavy Industries 💪 economy of scale and they pass the saving on to youuuuuuu!
Yeah, it’s easily the best entry-level sport bike bargain on the market.
Less power than the 500r had; I suppose the gains will be in weight, frame geometry, suspension and overall tech (fuel injection and electronics) and design improvements.
@@jaredanderson7494it’s a beginner bike
You don’t need that much power on a bike like that
I picked one of these up this past Friday and it’s a fantastic bike.
451cc sooo, NOT a 500? Hate how manufacturers are doing this now, just call it what it is, a 450
They are loosing sales to cfmoto and their 450SS so this is a sad attempt to over badge what is essentially the same bike. Pathetic attempt
@@bfarm44aprilia rs457 dominates the 400 from every aspect on paper i think this is what actually raised the bar
My ninja 400 brings me alot of joy. It is an exceptional machine!!!! Just because its not THAT fast doesnt make it bad its by design!!! @serbbrb_7891
when i say raiser the bar, i mean n400 was the bike to even set the standard to begin with, so no its not a slow or a non-exceptional machine. The rs457 is just better (except for reliability obviously) and i vouch for that not even having driven one. The firing order of the engine alone speaks volumes in this comparison.
The rs457 doesn't dominate on every aspect.
The rs457 is lighter and cheaper - that's about it. The 400 produces more power, and has higher reliability and build quality. Not to mention dealer support, aftermarket parts, etc. @@serbbrb_7891
I love the late 80s and early 90s color schemes.
Yeah that's a mid-late 90's color scheme right there.
I absolutely love the retro 40 year colour scheme. So many modern Kawasakis look awesome in the old retro colours and not the new KRT colours.
The SE upgrades are nice. Should be standard on bikes now a days. That 40th anniversary would be my choice if I was in the market though. Great color scheme
I have so much fun on track with my current Ninja 400 (heavily modified). I would definitely consider replacing it with the 500 if I happen to bin the thing in a corner. I've tracked a few larger displacement bikes over the years, but the 400 is so light in the corners, larger motors are only beneficial on the straights. If the 500 has the same handling characteristics, its a winner. Aftermarket suspension only improves an already capable platform. I wonder if all my race bits from my 400 would fit on the 500?
I would believe they would. The chassis is the same, to my knowledge, the fairings are just slightly different from what I can tell
Not worth it
My first race bike was an EX500 / Ninja 500. Funny how things are going from the 250 to 300 to 400 and now back to 500! There was nothing too powerful about my EX500 and made it a great first track bike. It's all about the corner speed.
The EX was a park bench! The GS, Bandit & Hawk were awesome!
I had a 1985 Kawasaki ZL900 eliminator. It was a great bike and looked like a muscle cruiser. Nothing like what Kawasaki is calling the eliminator
Kawsaki made a smaller displacement eliminator then, too.
US bikes are rated 51hp, and likely will see bigger gains when modded than previous 'baby Ninjas'. This engine has been sandbagged more than other generations to comply with emissions and European LAMS (or whatchyamacallit) 'beginner' HP regs. Most new bikes have terribly restrictive exhausts and factory computer tunes that open the throttle a fraction of your actual throttle input. 100% throttle opening is often as low as 60%, so a substantial power increase is already built into the engine, even BEFORE tuning the poor air/fuel ratio, timing, etc! Interestingly, this bigger engine also gets better fuel mileage than the 400, which is often the case with torquier engines and slightly more relaxed gearing. I know MPG doesn't excite anyone but me, but that's a strong point of this class of bike, and I'm engineer-minded. The p3ck3r-measure "500" isn't the most exciting upgrade to Baby Ninja (I LIKE small sportbikes), but I think it represents a better value if you don't get stupid with options. 😉
the 40th anniversary livery across the whole lineup looks so much better than the regular christmas color kawasaki racing graphics. they should just make those the standard IMO
I have a 2019 N400 that I use for solo touring. Not enough changes here to compel an upgrade. But Kawi is definitely keeping the N500 competitive, especially the SE. I agree with the folks saying that it should be called a 450 instead of a 500.
I wanted the Ninja 500 after I get off my Ninja 300. Wanted it for city primarily and an occasional tour. How is the 400 long distance? I don't love the high rev's for really long distances, the 400 do ok with that?
@@mannybrar7501 The N400 works great for solo long distance --I have earned an Iron Butt on it and make several week-long trips a year. I have some mods for travel: Scottoiler, heated grips, touring windshield, throttle boss, and waterproof luggage. I also have a slightly more cushioned seat. My previous bike was a 2007 Ninja 650R; the N400 is lighter and the only performance difference is that I occasionally have to drop a gear passing where the 650 could do a 6th gear roll-on.
My crystal ball says this and the Eliminator are testing grounds for the engine to make a future KLR450 to compete with the new Himalayan and CFMOTO 450 ADV bikes (or at least one can hope).
If they make a 450 KLR and add a 6th gear im all in! It would be a blast! I love my 22’KLR but the single thumper is a dog with 5 gears. Goes anywhere you point it though.
It would honestly still weigh ~430lbs or more. At that point an extra ~30lbs isn't a big deal when you can get 33% more torque much lower in the rev range.
I really don't forsee them making a KLR with a twin cylinder engine. I would be a very different machine than a KLR.
I'm gonna end up getting the SE non KRT, I think it looks so nice in the Red, it comes with ABS which I think is huge as a new rider. And the SE is only about $500 more than the non SE so why not
Called the dealer to get my deposit in on mine
Same here, Dropped a deposit on mine like 2 days ago@@dlhursey
Just put my deposit for 1. Hope the dealer markup isn't much
@@kingofseraphs mine came out to around 7400, I put down 500 as a deposit and I own 6900. thats my dealer tho
So what is a small displacement motor cycle again?
Jesus that looks amazing!
I got a versys 300. it has plenty of power for what u need it for
I need help. I cany decide. Aprilia rs457, Ninja 500 SE, CFmoto 450SS...
What has the better tft display? What has the best tech?
I like things with cool tech.
Who has the best software..
So if I get the SE edition do O still need to add them on in check out?
Aprilia has the best technology and display, don’t get cfmoto it’s Chinese and very heavy
Does the 40th anniversary edition come with all the SE upgrades? Or is that just a color scheme change?
The 40th seems to be listed as an SE, so it comes with all the goodies. I think it'd be quite disappointing if the cooler (subjective) anniversary edition didn't come as an SE.
🤩 suits me perfectly
As a first bike would the ninja 400 be just fine or because of the price should I just go for the 500 ? I’ve seen many vids abt the 400 but with how new the 500 is there’s none about it so I don’t know how they handle
Search for a used N400 and you'll be amazed and satisfied. I paid 4300 USD - used 2018 with 4400 odo - and I'm selling my Honda 800 Interceptor/keeping the 400. I have no desire to trade-up for the 500. I like the 500 too btw. I rode a 1000r naked for 6 years too.
All Kawa has to do now is make the Ninja 700 or 750. Keep the same price point and catch up to the new Suzuki 8r, the r7 and possibly the 660. I'd like to see that happen
the ninja 650 is the equivalent to the r7? 2 cylinder 600 even tho the r7 is better and then they already have the zx6r, i don’t see how they would have a market for a 700 when they already have 650 n 636
@@wkrb0nk109 its the same difference as the 400 going to 500. I never said the 650 was better. I'm saying that Kawa needs to improve the 650 bike to match and beat the others. The R7, R8 etc. the 660. And the 636 is a totally different animal than the twin bike category. So yeah some more ponies and torque can definitely create a Ninja 700. It's eventually going to happen
ninjas are so mid
Bring back the 250. Bigger isn’t always better
i think the slightly updated look of the 500 is better than the outgoing 400
So, the 300 class grew to 400cc and is now approaching 500. I don't get it, I purposely sought out an lightweight supersport bike and found one in the KTM rc390. If I wanted a mid-sized bike I could have easily found one of those. I've been riding for nearly 40 years and I've rode big bikes, I'm having more fun than I have had in years with my little sport bike.
yeah people are buying bikes for looks and numbers nothing to do with what they use or need
How does it compare to the CF Moto 450 SS?
On the Kawasaki website it says power is 51hp at 10,000 rpm. Torque 31.7 @ 7500 rpm.
I want that 40 anniversary one so bad
Can’t find one anywhere in DFW😢
I had a 2001 GPz 500 twin also called a Ninja in some countries - that chucked out 60 bhp - whats all the fuss about?
23 years of technological advancements probably resulted in more than a few differences.
im thinking of getting the 500 as my first bike, ive road some other dirt bikes around 250cc and this seems like a more relevant power curve for me that ill get more value. Do you guys think if i get tthe 500 first i wont want to upgrade as quick as if i got the 400? i feel if i get the 400 ill just want to feel faster eventually
or honestly do i just go 650
it depends on your riding ability and comfort. i started last summer on a 2023 ninja 400 and sold it in the fall, because i wanted more power. however, i’ll say that i rode that bike aggressively and really pushed it to its limit every time i took it out. i’m not recommending you or anyone ride like this, but if that’s the kind of rider you are, then maybe you’d consider the 500 for a bit more power. you’re not going to get significantly more power from that bike, but it would probably be noticeable if you’ve rode a 400. i would never recommend anyone start on a 600, because realistically, it’s too power for the streets and you probably won’t get the most out of a bike like that. so, either a 400 or 500 would be good to start out on. depending on your comfort and how much you’re willing to spend.
It literally says 51 hp on Kawasaki's website.
I'm wondering if get a flash tune will give it a considerable bump in power. I'm sure somebody will do that.
yes it should, it will come underwhelming when first released because Kawasaki is having to meet EU standards.. BOOOOOO
I have the special edition, pretty cool!
Aprilia 457 or ninja 500 what should i go for?? I am confused
Im in the same boat. I am in between choosing one of these bikes
Weird that they're getting rid of the 400 so soon. I wasn't expecting it to stick around as long as the 250 but that was kind of quick.
Regulation standards were choking Kawi - first in India - then Kawi went full kamikaze across the board. The 500 is a respectable change re price and the bhp can be increased with aftermarket tweaks etc.. Plus Kawi had to keep up with the competition i.e. 450s... I'm keeping my N400.
This might be my first bike 😍
That's awesome. Go for it and have fun.
used ninja 400
Where I live (Canada), the licensing is more expensive for motorcycles over 400cc, so the 399cc of the Ninja 400 makes it way more interesting for us. So I really hope Kawasaki will continue to offer the N400 here.
Where is this? In Manitoba it's 499 CC's, not 399.
I would go base with abs . The anniversary one is sweet❤
Only a fool wouldn’t get the se
There is a reason that 80% of used bikes on the marker are these 300 type bikes. I bought a Suzuki GS 500 new in 04. Full farring 500 cc bike. Aside from the ninja it was the first one like that. I would pop that clutch and ride wheelies for days. But i did grow out of it very fast. Seriously in like a month I was ashamed to be riding a 500.
Great. Just too bad it is not a NinjaZX-5RR. I am waiting for a KTM RC399 or how about an RC499 ...or What ever happened to the RC8 ?
I still like my r3. Cant argue got it for 5500 otd. I went to look at the ninja 500 and amd they want 7k otd lol
I am a value shopper, and options get pricey for such a cheap bike. That being said, Ninjas are supposed to be 'Team Green'! I'd have to go with the cheapest proper-colored one, the non-ABS KRT edition @$5,499.
US bikes are rated 51hp, and likely will see bigger gains when modded than previous 'baby Ninjas'. This engine has been sandbagged more than other generations to comply with emissions and European LAMS (or whatchyamacallit) 'beginner' HP regs. Most new bikes have terribly restrictive exhausts and factory computer tunes that open the throttle a fraction of your actual throttle input. 100% throttle opening is often as low as 60%, so a substantial power increase is already built into the engine, even BEFORE tuning the poor air/fuel ratio, timing, etc! Interestingly, this bigger engine also gets better fuel mileage than the 400, which is often the case with torquier engines and slightly more relaxed gearing. I know MPG doesn't excite anyone but me, but that's a strong point of this class of bike, and I'm engineer-minded. The p3ck3r-measure "500" isn't the most exciting upgrade to Baby Ninja (I LIKE small sportbikes), but I think it represents a better value if you don't get stupid with options.😉
Sweet retro colors from the 90’s!
To little for me however
Torn between this and the Aprilia RS 457, now that this one has more hp for a lot less dollar, plus i'm getting impatient and if I see this on the showroom first, im not waiting
can anyone tell me price of the base model in Canadian $ after taxes and everything
You’re probably looking at like 8-9k
@@mrpib272 ok after taxes and everything except insurance 9-10k ?
We need an episode on tfl as a whole. I grew up watching fldetours
Top speed?
The price difference is just ridiculous in EU.. 6600 euros for the base model and 7100 for SE, there's not non-ABS version tho 🙆♂
the n400 dash is iconic. I don't really like the flat boring look on the 500 and 500se.
I wish they would’ve done upside down forks.
Wow i had a gpz 500 with 60 hp and 176 kg dry weight and that was 25 odd years ago, reliable , comfy economical . What the heck is going on. John 3:16
Crippling fuel emissions rules/ laws.
Standard sport bikes are making a comeback. Just in 2024: Ninja 500, Suzuki GSX-8R and Triumph Daytona 660. Did I miss any?
Aprilia RS 457
Honda CBR650R
@@visualwarp9707 Aprilia 660 RS is a few years old now which belongs on this list as well. Ninja 650 along with CBR500R and CBR650R have kept faired standard bike type alive for awhile. There is a rumor that Honda might release faired version of CB750 Hornet as well.
CFMOTO 450ss
Site says 51 horsepower 31.7 torque
Link?
KAWASAKI USA website. The numbers dont mean alot, as its torquier at lower RPMs and throughout the rev range- until it gets 'sandbagged' at higher RPMs. A tune and full exhaust should really wake this one up, due to the gubment shackles placed on the 451cc, 'er "500" engine!
I got 50 hp on my 400 with an akropovic slip on and have hit 132 on my bike not GPS though so say 125 😅 all true too
Wish the white color came in the se version…😢
Just put in the down-payment for my 500 SE
now just waiting for them to actually make it to the US
Don't care about the bike either way, but nice to see you again Mister. Missed you
Still 450sr the King of speed in twin cylinder category 50hp vs 45Hp numbers don't lie
Tell Roman to come off some money and let you run the heat
500... they should have called it a 450. its a pretty big jump to round that up to 500.
When can a 451 be a 500? In 2024 of course😊.
We live in a time where a person can be called whatever they wish, just because that's how they feel.
Maybe this bike "Feels" like it's a 500?
6500 for a 450 ehhh but I like it tho it’s a throwback far as color scheme
Sad that it is not a real 500 class bike. They just added a moped to the almost 400. I will wait till KTM'S 590 comes next year.
keep waiting for next big thing lol
gotta love the false advertising in the bike market...lets just round everything up in the name no matter what
Ninja 450, the name is misleading af
It’s a 450 so they should either call it a 450 or make it 500cc. They are loosing sales to the CFMoto 450SS and it shows with this pathetic attempt to offer more. Make it a true 500 or badge it properly instead of lying
My Ninja 400 is bad ass! Kawasaki did wrong by making the 500. I’m going to 600 after the 400 not 500 🤦🏻♂️
I'll just swap motors on my 400
Pls why ninja400 costs 7400$ in korea(((( great bike just too expensive
If the badge is a lie i doubt the rest. Should be a very cheap bike as is just a skimmed old twin. Shame they dont let the engineers have a look at it, no better than a 90's bike
The badge is not a lie. The badge does not say Ninja 500cc. Did you even watch the video. It's not the "old twin". Its an improved motor.
Why dont they make a ninja 900?
They used to but dropped it, they still make Z900s fun machines
Actualy, I really think that the ZX4R/Ninja400 front & headlights are better looking than the Ninja 500 ! The headlight's shape of the Ninja 500 feels weird..
So if you have a 400, instead of selling it and buying this, it's much cheaper to just flash the ECU and get much better performance than this 500 cough cough 450 for just $250.
The ninja 500 isnt an upgrade. Its a downgrade. It has basically the same HP and torque as the 400, but weights a good bit more and doesnt rev nearly as high. Doesnt sound like an upgrade to me
"Weighs a good bit more" Seven pounds more you mean. A gallon of milk weighs more than that.
NEXT: NINJA ZX 500-RR
Skinny tyres that you can barely get other brands of tyre, if it's anything like the four hundered your right heel catches the exhaust with normal sized feet. The seat is uncomfortable, the ergonomics are cramped, and telescopic forks on a new bike.. Small fuel tank, and not good fuel economy for how small and light it is. All in all it's complete 💩 with a different face on it. Just get a Suzuki GSXS-8S, and reduce the power in it to suit your license and raise the power in it when you aquire a higher power licence.. Better brakes, suspension etc etc all round for road riding..
Sooo I can just buy the stroker kit they are effectively making for a fraction of what this “new” bike cost… 👍 leftover’23 ninjas here I come 😂
without an inverted front fork I think Kawa is becoming lazy
There is no reason to upgrade for just 52cc
I’ll pass, not worth trading in my 400 for a 451cc. Kawasaki should have made it a true 500cc. Bike looks nearly identical to the 400, with the same motor and more tech and weight. I would rather have the zx6r.
Just $1000 more gets you a Aprilia RS 457
but reliability and after market sales is in question and the color scheme is not everyone. Also Nina SE version comes with lot more features which you would have to add in aprilia so its a bit expensive. The pricing for aprilia is going to kill their sales in USA.
But why would you bother?
Why are they still doing those god awful budget forks?
not a worse motor for a sportbike than a parallel twin, boring and hate the sound, they are all doing it now.
I'm skeptical. The 400 was an almost perfect balance of weight, power and torque. Along with a pretty low center of gravity. Will the added weight take away from the #1 beginner bike?
Bro its 7 pounds 😂 yea that will totally ruin the balance!!!!!
Why so much arse in the air and not a full 500, Kawasaki flatters to deceive.
When a kawasaki ninja 500 costs over $5k usd its a no brainer to buy something like a triumph street triple 765 base model at under $10k. Its not just on the spec sheet its a far superior bike, the motor is a peach, it s handling is amazing as are the fit, finish, power and brakes and itsva well proven engine used in different specs from tiger 800 to daytona 675 to speed triple 675, 765 and moto 2 daytona engine producing reliably around 140bhp.Alan Sanders took a tiger 800 round the world putting on over 50K miles on the clock and in the real world we all want a good machine and when its a model up there with the best triple engines out there but far cheaper than MV agusta and outhandling yamaha MT09 thats saying something. I had an old 900 daytona and it was so torquey for its time and economical and reliable too and keep the revs under 5000 and fuel economy was really good at around 50mpg. Ive had vfr hondas and 600 fazer yammies but they seemed soul less next to the triumph but the yamaha was so reliable, easy to work on unlike honda with regulator rectifiers giving big problems 3 packed up by 20000 miles until i put in a mosfet unit made by electrex which is brilliant and worth the extra. Trouble is that you cant tell which bike will be reliable when youre working nights and doing london to near Brighton and back every night in winter. That proved to me the fazer was great and i did nearly 40K miles on it and it never missed a beat or gave electrical problems and only a suzuki v strom or triumph grophy or tiger would tempt me for 100+ mile per day work commute on motorway and dual carriageway riding.
For sure the kawasaki would be good basic transport and i rode a 300cc twin to work that gave great mpg and was faster than it shouldve been. Im an ex despatch rider so i look at bikes from a different perspective to people who ride weekends in the dry. Id say japanese inline fours take some beating especially the old honda cb, kawasaki z and especially suzuki GS850g, 550 and 750 although the gs1000 was a great bike, in town mine did under 30mpg but you knew those lumps were good for 50000 miles before touching it and all mine did over 50K miles and 2 of them did 100K miles and were easy to work on. Fantastic everyday bikes. The more basic they are the best they are in my book as no electrical gremlins like some more modern bikes. Thats one reason why id stay clear of most italian and ktm. AJP however out of Portugal seem to be a great, practical bike with a smart policy of giving sizes of things like o rings and seals and bearings so you just can fit japanese NTN, kyoto bearings with the number given so you know the diameter id and od, thickness and spec. Great idea well done to AJP
disappointed 😆😆
So just to be clear... Ninja 250, 300, 400, 500, 600, 650, 1000, with plenty of short lived runs for sizes in between I'm sure...
... I'm just looking for a 270 degree crank shaft for the Eliminator...
it doessnt feel like an improvement on the 400 platform at all I actually hate the bike and the all digital dash etc.... this is just kawasaki being kawasaki keeping busy unlike suzuki but you know I dont think its a real gift to the market or anything
but if you compare it to the ninja 300 you can see the raw engineering improvements
Ive got a 300 I just couldnt imagine ever needing using or wanting a "ninja 500"
Ninja "500" weighs same as Ninja 300. But with nearly 20 HP more! Could be interesting.
@keithjones9773 it's all interesting! But the math between the 300 and 500 is more exciting
I think the 400 standalone has the most exciting math because it's the top of its class and even smaller performance adjustments equal a bigger % increase so I think it's a much more exciting platform
This is going to be pure garbage. Heavier than the Ninja 400 and not that much more power and torque.
It's not really a new bike, the ninja 500 has been around since the 80s. It's just a new model year.
But is it the same motor as the old 500s? That is the question
The 80s Gen N500 am sure put out more power & torque the this newer gen ninja & it was an actual 500cc not a 451cc calling itself a 500. Just saying manufacturers really get me when they do this 🙄...
no its a totally new bike just the same name LOL bro whaaaaat are you smoking
you know a name is just a name right?
this is a ninja 400 upgrade... its a totaly differnt bike totally differnet engine and everything xDDD omgggg Im dying LOL
Hard pass
I'm probably gonna go with the Anniversary edition but replace that big ass windscreen right away.