Is a Porsche 911 Carrera S a BETTER used sports car to buy than a C8 Corvette?
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- The 911 is onr of the most iconic sports cars from Porsche. On the outside of the 2017 Carrera S you will discover optional wheels, dual-outlet exhaust & active rear spoiler. On the inside is a full leather interior. Powering the 911 is a 3.0L twin-turbo flat-6.
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There's a reason why the 911 is a timeless design. You just can't argue with the philosophy of "If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it." Joe, it is just so much fun watching you with such a joyous smile on your face as you're putting this one through its "on throttle" paces. Like with Steve McQueen, this one is beyond cool.
Man that’s so nice of you to say.
Utterly agree, mate
Maybe Charlie Harper wouldn't have picked on his brother Alan if he bought a 911 instead of the Boxter! 😁
Yes, it retains its froggy 🐸 looks which we all love…
Porsche is hands down best engineered car. They’re pricey but you get what you pay for plus they hold their value
The best engineered car? Boxster 6 mounted over the rear axle? That’s the pinnacle of engineering to you lol?
@@salimrandallClearly you’ve never driven one lol
Facts 💯
@@salimrandallI have owned many Corvette’s including a C8. No comparison with a Porsche 911 regarding build quality and overall feel. The price differential is well worth it.
@@trevorphillips3922 Wrong. I just think they're stupid. Google my name in NYC i'm not poor lol stupid.
Hell yes
911s are legendary...
even a base version
Great spec. Porsche is driving perfection. The C8 is a great sports car, the 911 is in a different league.
Porsche is pure craftsmanship inside and out
My 1st Porsche in 2020 was a 911 991.2 Carrera S and I absolutely LOVED that car! I traded it in a year later for a 911 991.2 Turbo S that I had tuned by Pacific German in So. Cal. with a GIAC Stage 1 Tune, Soul X-Pipe, CSF Intercoolers and BMC High Flow Air Filter for an extra 60 'ish HP and 50 'ish Ft Lb TQ. Most of the time I can't get past quarter throttle on city streets. It's a blast and my favorite car that I've ever owned from muscle cars to C6 Corvette GS. I've wanted this car since I was a boy and I'm 53 years old. It's a timeless time machine that makes me feel young again no matter if I'm staring at it's beautiful lines in the garage or tearing it up on the streets! Great review!
Actually, The reason why Porsche models are called Carrera is due to the Carrera Panamericana that took place in Mexico in the 50s and 60s, where Porsche won multiple times.
It is also for this reason that the Porsche Panamera receives its name
I own the C8 so you already know which one I picked, but wow that car looks so fun to drive. Great review. The German Shepherd hair reference had me busting.,
Corvette is an ICON.
Porsche is a LEGEND.
You make the call. 🤔
That is such a tough choice
An icon for retirees...
@@AmericanBusinessman422
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The red on this one looks really good as well. It's a great spec as well.
You have very good taste
@@RaitisRides I think a red interior and some carbon fiber whould make it look 10 times better as well.
@@Brian_Eugene_Lee very true. The blue they have also looks amazing as well
@@Brian_Eugene_Lee very true. That's the one I whould get myself.
@Reaperguy67 I'm not a fan of carbon fiber, honestly. The thing I missed the most in the configuration of this unit is the rear wiper. Not a big deal, but this is a "must have" to any 911 coupé.
Just traded my beloved C8 in for a 992 4S.
Have had C7 and C8s, tired of waiting for my ZO6 allocation, so switched teams.
I wish I’d done it sooner! OMG!! Such precision, no plastic squeaks. Mechanically superior.
like trading in a good piece of art for a great piece of art, that you can hear and FEEL.
Lost a lil flash to gain a bunch of class. The refinement is a different level. They both do the same, but in a different way.
Chevys Vette is a great value especially used, will depreciate quick too. (Still a Chevy) cheap maintenance.
I may still get the ZO6 or better, but the prestigious 911 is way better daily driver that gets the respect without shouting.
The Porsche 911 Carrera S IS "THE TRUE ULTIMATE APOSTLE TO THE SUPER CARS and you know you've made it in life when you're driving a Porsche 900 Series car even if it's used.
I’m so glad that I could share it with this one
@@RaitisRides You know that! Viva Porsche! Viva Raiti's Rides! After you should shout, "Viva!" to show pride!
It's used as soon as you buy it.
@@ricardobooker1704 Yes
What a great review on such an amazing car. Not gonna lie, you had me rolling with the German Twinkies comment 😂
ABSOLUTELY!!! Porsche there is no substitute 🤣🤣🤣
I like the way you think!
Alan Harper should have got this instead of the Boxter! 😂
Thought you were going to pull over to have a cigarette ! 😂😂😂
Hilarious & awesome video bro !
You are freaking awesome!
I personally have driven this Porsche in the video it came from our crown store in TN and shipped down to the land rover in FL. It was my first time driving a Porsche and I must say I was in love and specially in the sport + mode!
The 911 is a testament to balance and precision over mad hps. The C8 is insane hps over surgical precision. ☯️ 911 all day for me and it has a back seat.
This is by far the best car review channel on youtube hands down, and my favorite!
Would love to see the new 2024 automatic toyota supra❤
You are the best! I will get that together for you
💙 for automatic, PDK, DCT, & paddles.
Both cars are awesome. My holy grail car is the Acura NSX.
Porsche all day for me.
Good call!
The C8 looks like a frikin spaceship compared to the 911.
The interior is just as special on the C8 too.
And apparently, the C8 Z06 is a better driver’s car than the GT3 (savagegeese).
I’m keeping my manual GT3. But GM have definitely moved the game on
I've owned my 996 now for 14 years and had NO issues with the much maligned IMS bearing.Awesome cars,even in base Carrera version
I spent the value of the car on fixing my bore scoring issue (997.1).
I never liked Porsche, but here's something for me to admire: I love the shift!
In 4 or 5 years the resale value of the 911 will definitely outshine the C8
Everything except the idle sound goes to the 911😊
@@thetruthspeaker1978bro really just said the Porsche sounds better than a Corvette
@@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 oh..I forgot his opinion was final
I prefer the Porsche and it’s true they hold their value extraordinarily well, but C8 values have held strong since they came out. A 500 hp mid engined sports car is not gonna drop below $65-70k anytime soon, just check autotrader. Used examples of the C8 often go for more than brand new ones.
@@jakes5530 The C8 is built here. Of course the Porsche will, because there will be more C8s
Just me...I'm having a senior moment with flashbacks of my old RED Opel GT! No matter how hard I tried 99.9 miles an hour. lol I'm digging this Upgrade! I can feel the grip from my living room chair....I'll check out the colors and then close out my dating apps for this baby!// I'd take this over a Vett. Those Vetts look like a floating living room to me and this puppy is a little wild slot car made for the fun factor.
I saw a drag race between a Corvette c8 Stingray, and a 911 Carrera entry level. The corvette had a better start since it has more horsepower, but it didn't matter!! The Porsche caught up to it easily, despite having 100hp less than the Corvette. That is just insane!!!
Porsche all day lol. I would take the C7 zo6 tho over both
I have a 2022 911 PDK (base) and while it is quick and that is all I want when I purchased it new in 2022 I am now looking at the S/GTS. I can not take a C8 off the line or pass it in a 1/2 mile race. My neighbor has a C8 Z51 coupe and I know first hand. Fit and Finish is better on my Porsche over the Corvette C8. I am looking at trading in the base 911 for a 911 S or GTS. We all ready know the value is in the C8 over the 911.
For performance the C8 is the way to go but fit and finish and attention detail is lacking and hence the reason I went with Porsche. I also have a BMW F90 M5 when I need to take the family out and it is a force to reckon with. The M5 is comfortable and fits 4 adults with no issue. I drive the M5 more then the 911.
The Corvette had to let off. Stock vs stock the C8 is way faster in both the 0-60 and 1/4 mile.
@@anthonykiedis1765 claim speed on the vette the 2.9 Chevy says it can do, good luck getting it
@@anthonykiedis1765 the Porsche same numbers launch after launch
The older i get, the more i love 911s. Good i bought a 997s manual this week 😄
My dream car Joe, thank you for another amazing video. My best to you and yours and many more great years to come. Thanks again for the great videos and content.
Corvette will always be the better value, but Porsche will always get you more respect.
I like the way that you did that
Best comment ever about this topic!
Corvette vs Porsche are you kidding? The European cars are always better in everyway
I disagree. this is faster, and the build quality is second to none.
I disagree. this is faster, and the build quality is second to none.
6:10 One thing I would never leave out of my specs on a brand new 911: the rear wipers.
I'd go for the Burmeister sound system/speakers
C8 all the way!!!
Sure Porsche is Porsche, especially 911... but reliability, price tag, etc. - C8 wins big!
I appreciate your vote
My favorite car, my favorite car review channel.
Thanks David I appreciate you saying that!
Very different feel vs C8. Right now a 2017 carrera s goes for the same as a new well speced C8. With 5 years warranty!!!!!
Porsche is a great car. The maintenance is expensive. I am still a corvette guy.
Out of all Porsche videos you did, you never done a 991.2 gt3. My dream car.😉
Do a guards red 991.2 gt3
Hi Joe, please"unzonk" the front center vent. It's not fake, it's like that by design. It has all the venting it needs from the side vents. Cars need to run at a certain temperature and more venting is not better.
Then it shouldn't look like a vent
@@AmericanBusinessman422 I guess you didn't get the memo...the engine is in the rear, hence there is no need for an 'open' vent front and center. It's a closed vent by design.
I don't know how Joe doesn't get pulled over on those twisted bends
Nice video keep up the good work my brother
Nah, if you want to go fast you either call Corvette or McLaren. Or BMW's M-department for cars also really suited for the road as well. If you want deafening road noise you call Volkswagen Group's Porsche department and see if they still sell something which isn't electric or an SUV or sold to flippers only.
I just purchased a 2014 Turbo S. Love it.
That is fantastic! Congrats my friend.
I think Porsche should hire you to do their marketing videos. True Porschephile. Sold me on it.
Balanced : Porsche does shake their cars down at a world famous race track
without even watching the video, YES! Yes it is!
Porsche for me. Carrera S is all you really need out of a 911. Although I would rather have that amazing 7 speed manual.
Wow. There is no substitute. How has Joe never been stopped by the police for speeding?
I've wondered the same thing myself
Both are great options, everything depends on the budget.
I agree with that Omar. Depends what can afford. I would get a Turbo S. I really like the looks of that car.
Yep, totally agree. GT3 all day every day if money is just a number to you.
@@mxtv1258turbo S is almost double a carrera s and 3 times a new C8
If you get one with the Top Off. make sure your not getting a Top Off even if your in an area known for having Top’s Off on the beach.
Such an incredible car and its only the carrera S trim! Imagine the turbo or turbo s!
Turbo S is too fast to be enjoyable on US public roads. It’ll do 0-120 mph faster than most cars do 0-60. I drove a 2012 991 S and even that was almost too fast for the road, you had to really rev it out to get the most of it, but it had very tall gears so you’d be hitting 80 mph in second gear if you actually revved it out. Maybe this 992 with the turbo is better, but at least that was the case for the naturally aspirated 991. A base 992 carrera with all the performance and handling options is the sweet spot.
@@jakes5530yep, for me Base Carrera is plenty fast on public road.
@@jml9550 Exactly...my Golf R will land me in jail.
@@rgp8038 my boring Lexus ES350 will get me in jail as well ?
Same design again. I don’t see anyone complaining about Porsche not changing design like they complain when Nissan keep the GTR and Zs with same design for years.
Beautiful car though.
That's very true. In fact the design of all Porsche cars hardly changed
If you want an all rounder yes, if you want something that keeps up with actual super cars in all ways then no.
Hey! What about cream pies?? Is the cream still busting out every where?? 🤣🤣🤣
James Dean's famous last words @18:00....
Only Porsche would charge to have a headlight washer nozzle paint to match!
Corvette has a place in my heart,but when it comes to Porsches,no matter if it's a base Cayman,there's no substitution in both day to day driving and also racing around a track
As a Porsche owner I will obviously continue to own the porches over any car, superior machine hands down.
Now my perfect car!
I knew you were a Porsche guy.
The perfect car for under 100,000
I've been thinking of selling both my E92 M3 and F87 M2 for one of these because I've always wanted a 911 but afraid I'd regret it 😢
You will. It's not worth trading 2 incredible cars for one.
@@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 yep, I think maybe if it were for a GT3 or 4RS it would be worth it but not for anything less 😁
$94K! This 2017 Porsch is holding its value. My only zonk on this beauty is the PDK. I'd prefer the traditional "right number of pedals" transmission. As for food, nobody would be eating in this car. Besides if we're talking Brats and sauerkraut, you need a beer to with em! No drinking and driving! 😊 Brats, sauerkraut, and a couple of Shiner Bocks, sounds good right now.
I used to prefer manual too, but now I prefer PDK. If you know, you know.
Porsche prices have ballooned to annoying levels. Some blame the Covid bump, but man it’s annoying. I’d kill for a $60-65k 991.2 for real!
if I can find a low mileage 992 for $80k I buy one tomorrow, in cash. 😊
@jml9550 good luck bro, I bought my 997.2 for $70k lol
@@DesertDemons yeah every 2-3 YO 992 is $100k+, I may need to Uber at night to make more money :)
Even been old car beats the corvette interior design!! Dont have long thing at middle with cheap buttons were u dont know with one to press😂😂😂,,that Porsche interior is stunning!,
This car should have been used in the new Rolling Stones "Angry" video, instead of the Mercedes SL!
You are so very right about that
Vin Diesel and Joe Raiti in “Fast and Furious 13 On Throttle, Zonk’d!” In theaters Christmas 2023!
Rims : Like the design. But black would show brake dust less and red calipers show more
With all the iterations of the 911, which one is the best model and spec? Some say the GTS is the sweet spot but what options should go on it?
That is spot on the money Toby
Love love love 911s so much, man I got to get one!!! I've been preparing my long-suffering wife for that possibility and she's come to accept our upcoming poverty. Outstanding review with the love guys!!!
How can you drive so fast on the roads of gateway without being ticketed by the local police? Did you tell them to clear the streets for your video runs?
Both are great cars. if money is no object, Porsche all day every. C8 is a heck of a car at its price point.
I guess this really is new. It looks pretty retro for something released in 2023. The lights for example.
It's a pre-owned 2017 being sold at the local Land Rover-Jaguar dealer.
@@MisterMikeTexas oh
People want to over do it with the gtrs porsches, but this Carrera S is one of the nices porsches I've ever seen
That pdk joke was killer 👍🏼
Looks like you need a towel after that drive, Joe! And I don't mean for the sweat.
Yes, the carbon ceramic brakes aren't necessary. Only if you track it regularly do you need them.
I'd opt for the Porsche, but that "Howdy Officer" shade of red and erect tail fin would get me pulled over more often than not.
The Carrera S is very nice, but you can get 2 C8 Corvettes for the price of a new 911CS.
And I'm NOT buying a 6 year old German car with no factory warranty.
Exactly
Good price, good mileage, very high option car, except full leather interior. It would be on my list if I was looking and if I didn't have a 2017 C2S convertable.
Very few daily drive their 911. At least at the dealership I've seem most used 911 are very low mileage. Speaking to many owners at Porsche events it's not their daily driver. I've not seen many 911's that have 160k to 200k . Those having that many miles require the motor to be pulled more than once to maintain it. Most that I've seen are re-built at 100k and it's because of the design of the flat six. It's a great car but it's expensive to maintain "properly" and most don't maintain them properly.
This is the case with 996 and 997s... for 991 and 991.2.. we will see!
The answer is and always will be a 911. I drove both and the Carrera S is a just a better car.
The answer is yes, Joe 😁
Now we are taking Tom!
I really want a 911...but that damn lottery never breaks my way. Yes, I'd take a 911 over a C8
I know how you feel
I was about to comment on the lane-switch; but I'll save it, as you said 😆
I just sold my 2022 C8 Z51 3LT mag ride for a 2020 911 Carrera . The Porsche is so awesome and is a better car in every way . My wife was pissed at first , but now admits - she like the 911 better . I have been converted .
I really liked your C8 Corvette.
By the way you know my 5 year old nephew loves your 911.
Without haven’t finished reading the name of this video. Sure thing is Porsche !)
Gotta have the towel for this joe!
For the price, Porsche needs to upgrade the dash and console material. That black, pebbled dash looks like something you find in an economy car. Still a beautiful design though.
That 5 gauge dash is iconic 911 design. Along with sport chrono in the dash. You can option leather or arcantara dash.
Interesting video, since I'm actually cross shopping used 2018 911 4s with the corvette e-ray. Awd and ceramic brakes are a must. I'm also gonna lift the vehicle about 2 inches and whereas there are several options with porsche (elephant racing, JCW) there is no option for the corvette as far as I know
Joe, you gotta elaborate, what type of filling is in the German twinkie? :D
Porsche all dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Color is amazing. It does seem a little dated on the tech side. What model year is this again?
Take a guess
@@RaitisRidesI'll guess because I watched your video.. 2017!?? right 😂😂😂
@@RaitisRidesYeah I was wondering if this was released in 2023? It does look a bit dated. Have I been living under a rock?
@RaitisRides Ummmmm..........I'll say based on the size of the infotainment screen........maybe 2018? Sorry Joe I don't mean to look ignorant 🫣
I'd trade some technology to save those 200 lbs weight gain of the new 992.
Don't forget the mustard on the Octoberfest bratwurst
Oh heck heck yeah!
Since the Porsche comes in manual, the choice seems obvious. Also the smoother 911 design tops Corvette for me.
I’d say the Jeep Wrangler has been just as evolutionary, for even longer.
My ordinary dream car I want to buy one Joe.
I mean at the same price this is not even a close choice like not even close. The Porsche is better in every single way.
I like the way you think!
The size of your eyes says it all. LOL
Have you noticed the mustang is going the route of the 911. It’s been the same since 2005. Just evolved
LC 500 has entered the chat
If bug guts are on a Porsche, they're a $1000 option. Very nice cars though
The 991.2 Carrera and Carrera S were still narrow body (NB). You needed to go Carrera 4/4S, Turbo/Turbo S or GT3RS/GT2RS for the wide body. With 992 they are all wide body. Also 991.2 Carrera S PDK weighs 3300 lbs not 3000.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and perspective on this one.
Joe and Lori and Steve and keep up the good work and I love the video 👍