@@bug4099 Right. I don't care how many boxes fit in it, or little Easter egg surprises the car has. Insight into the thought process behind the decisions and compromises is far more interesting to me.
Hats off to porsche for sticking with a rear mounted engine, and continuing to offer a manual transmission option on their cars. Their persistence to build pure driving cars will keep customers coming back
....because Porsche is one of the very few manufacturers that are remaining driving feel, car engagement and feedback despite total engineering and ultimate technical sophistication. That’s for most other manufacturers obviously impossible, or at least very difficult to deliver! I guess that’s why....
The shoppe segment of this channel really gave me a completely new appreciation for cars and is easily the best thing about this channel, besides the two great hosts that is.
+1! I know very little about cars, at least mechanically speaking, but this channel allowed me to start to appreciate the differences in engineering choices between companies. It's also super interesting to see how different companies choose to spend their money on the different parts of a car!
I tend to watch pure talk videos while having a meal. Those are more difficult to sit through without having something else to do. This is more active watchíng. (Although I got a bit weary on a spiritual level upon witnessing this easily funded engineering project for a select few.)
Never made a comment in all my years of watching the TH-cam. Hope it helps the algorithm, can't believe you aren't over a million subs, so much better than anything else....?? Best car channel ever, keep up the excellent work Mark!
So many cars with limited appeal to the masses. My local hospital Doctor's parking garage is filled with Porsches, but most people can't afford these toys.
Porsche can pretty much publicly brag about their tuning because no other brand can justify spending that much on a low-volume car without the boardroom investors shutting them down. It's amazing what Porsche achieved here without being forced by the current car market.
I went to the Porsche website and the technical stats didn't load on my new browser, only on IE11. Probably all that cookie, data tracking, surveillance crap I am not letting through on my current one. - Also inconsistent presentation. For some but not all models I had to scroll all the way to the bottom to find technical specs and those didn't mention max engine RPM. Crappy web design is analogous to orange peel skin. It's abundant in all price classes. And it's sad because a couple years ago the Porsche website stood out to me for not making issues but working fine eben with total cookie blocking and everything. Which is a side topic: The more marketing gathers analytical data about customers, the less they promote expertise to understand them naturally. It cripples human traits.
Thank you for what you do and making these videos possible. Since this video directly influenced my decision to get a 992 this is the least I can give thanks with.
Best Savagegees video ever? What a technical, comprehensive, and enthusiastic review. This must have been a ton of work and it shows. Thanks for doing it!
Red has become such a boring color through overuse in every market segment. I commend Audi for being able to find a tone of it that still excites and expresses what red was always supposed to be instead of a shadow of its former self. Red has become the silver for people who intellectualize passion.
This is by far the best Porsche 992 review i have seen on TH-cam! The amount of details and informations that are put in this video are just next level!
As a mechanical engineering student, I can only say thank you for this review. Those 20 minutes in the shoppe were so interesting and the information given is just detailed enough to captivate someone like me (I paused on every slide) without going too far to be understood by nearly everybody. Also, you've given me a 911 obsession! Wow, that car is impressive! I had the chance to drive a 2018 911 turbo, but it is now my dream to drive (and maybe own someday) a manual 911 like this one. You guys are awesome, I can't believe this video is free. Stay safe and keep making those awesome reviews!
@@artagain8977 Like the orange peel paint. I once had self-fitted V4A-80 bolts on my Corolla E9 exhaust connections and header shield. Just out of spite for this crap.
Guys you surpassed your benchmark Mazda 3 video with this, well done. Having all the tech data and videos from the manufacturer cut in with your own footage and commentary is seamless and suits your presenting style. Very enjoyable. As for the car, I do love it but to me it looks like it has a lot of stuff that could go wrong. It's definitely digital.
I am also SO THANKFUL that Porsche stayed honest and does not “pipe in “ fake engine noises like BMW !! As a 30 year BMW owner in the 80’s and 90’s ( I owned a wonderful gray market 1985 M535i never should of sold it ! ) I find their move sacrilege!!
This is my first time commenting on this channel, although I’ve been watching for quite a while now. The technical part was just perfect. The driving impressions were so clear and Mark and Jack’s enthusiasm is contagious. Makes me want to go to the nearest Porsche dealer just to see this car!
Savagegeese is my favourite TH-cam automotive review channel because of the superb detail they go through. I love geeking out to the technical details, especially one my dream car. Thank you for this. Never ever apologize for what you do. It's awesome! That's why I'm here. That's why we're here.
I've never been a Porsche fanboy but this review has given me better appreciation of the 911 and the technical details that make it so good. Great review.
I mean, if you researched it's Motorsports pedigree you would've appreciated a long time ago....... There's no other vehicle as dominated and race successful as the 911......... From beating prototypes in endurance racing to cars with double the power in IMSA/Trans Am.........
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo Oh I know some of their racing pedigree. What I don't like is how much they look alike from year to year. You need 5 to 10 years to notice a difference. This review showed some of the changes made under the skin which was a lot and apparently all added up major improvements. The only Porsche that impressed me a lot was the 918 and that was years ago.
@@rynomite_ I think I know why they do it and its a good reason. The problem is over the years the roads have a lot of them and unless you're a fan boy its hard to tell the difference year over year. They loose their "specialness". They're at a point now where I don't think their fans would allow significant changes. There is less incentive to trade up for a newer model. It allows them to put more money in the rest of the car and most of the time it works (except the move to all turbos.) I think the Taycan looks a lot better and is still a Porsche. Whoever thought a Porsche should sound like a Subaru was wrong. Hey, I'm not a marketing expert its only an opinion.
Over 3 years later and I still keep coming back to this video. Either that means I'm destined to own a well used 911 when I'm in my late 60's and all my bones are shot to shit, or you guys have really made something special here. I can't deal with that intro. It's just perfect.
This review sold me the car. I ended up purchasing a new 2021 911 Carrera S in Australia a year ago. My only criticism is that the sound is reduced due to the OPF's in Australia/UK. I think the US version does sound better, you do get to hear more of the flax six sound. Otherwise its been the perfect daily driver's car.
Guys, your reviews are on a different dimension, compared to everyone else on TH-cam. Congrats on the amazing content and the no-bs, no-nonsense delivery!!
My takeaway from these last two videos is that the 992 would be lighter than the (add lightness company) Lotus Evora GT, if it did away with the sound deadening, tech, stereo, ect to match the Evora GT. The 992 is such an engineering marvel. I do love that unlike the Corvette, you can still get a manual transmission on the 992. This was a fantastic break down of everything on the 992. This video produced a newfound respect for the 992 I wouldn't have otherwise had. Such a great job on this fellas
In 2013, I brought my 2012 991 Carrera into the Porsche Dealer for an annual tuneup and oil change. I was loaned a 997 Carrera S. After driving the S for the day and then picking up my 991, the comparison just blew me away. The newest generation was so much better than the previous generation that my Carrera standard was so much better than the S in every area. Apparently 8 years of evolution in the S, makes the latest generation so much more car than the earlier generation that the two are almost not comparable. It is so much better. An interior that is special and still has switches and the electronics that control the car make it an amazing experience and in control in all cases, even during the rain. The 991 was so much car that I'm in no hurry to part with my old NA 3.4 liter standard Carrera. For those who don't have a Porsche but always wanted one, the S version of this latest car (or a GTS version) is the one to have, unless you have to have a super car. Then you'll have to pony up the money to afford the GT3. AF
I was lucky enough to drive my neighbors 992 carrera s cabriolet with the sport exhaust and pdk and the only thing i can say is holy shit. The noises that car makes combined with how insanely fast it feels was such an insane experience, without a doubt the best car i have ever driven.
Incredible car. I rented one out for a weekend and feel in love with it. Lived with it and rode it around and definitely going to pick one up within 2 years.
This my favorite auto channel on TH-cam! I love the mix of humor technical review and driver impressions! As for the Porsche I was never much of a fan boy until I had the pleasure of driving a GT2 at one of these driving experiences. I was all excited to drive a Lamborghini and a Ferrari (which I really didn't fit in as I am a little over 6' 3") and enjoyed those cars but one of the instructors talked me in to driving the Porches GT2 and OMG I fell in love with that car that I paid for 2 more sessions! I felt the most comfortable in the Porsche and had the fastest laps that just kept getting better and better. Thank you guys for the great content and keep them coming!
What a great review. Probably the most comprehensive 992 review I've seen anywhere. Love the engineering details you guys covered. About the only issue I had is the comment about trial braking and how all 911's are good at it. That's totally false. I have a 997.1 C2 and my number one complaint about the handling is how you CANNOT trail brake the car. Lots of Google searches will you show that for the 997, Porsche decided they would not allow the car to rotate under braking -- even if you turn off TC and PSM. So even if you turn off PSM it's never fully off and you can't get the car to rotate, unless you purposely upset the car to the point where PSM can't correct for you. As an experienced driver who was able to consistently trail brake a Lotus Elise through corners around all kinds of race tracks, I can't do it in my 997. And it's super frustrating. Other than that little personal trigger, it was a great video.
This channel is simply outstanding. Writing, presentation, aesthetics, audio, cinematography everything is bang on. Appreciate the Hi-Fi emphasis in car reviews, I have never seen any other reviewers posting waterfall graphs in their car reviews 😂😂😂
Just automatically put money into a Vanguard index fund every week and in 20 years you'll have it. People always want instant gratification that's why you see so many suckers who make $40k a year driving $50k trucks.
I'm so impressed with this car I think I want to disassemble one and look at and get to know it and then put it back together with extreme care. I've never been so impressed with the engineering of a car in my life! This is the kind of engineering and attention to detail that the other German car manufacturers have lost. I'm 71 and I'd drive one of these with the manual gear box and love every minute of it.
i LOVE all the throwbacks to the 930, hell even the side mirrors look like a modernized version of the old ones, and the no-nonsense interior and great driving position is a masterpiece. Truly an amazing car.
This is not a normal car.... The 911 has been a league ahead ever since I first saw them racing at Brands Hatch in the late 60s and 70s... Loved it then, Really Love it now.😍
My missus and I bought an LC500 a couple seasons back. The lease is up this coming spring, and this is our next car. Can't wait, the enthusiasm in this review is exactly how I felt when I drove the 992 S.
I enjoy watching car reviews on a very regular basis. This is THE best technical review by people that understand what they are talking about that I have ever seen. Gentlemen, thank you for your time in presenting this most comprehensive review.
I want to thank you guys for what you do. You two are the gold standard to me for when I want to see an automotive review. Absolutely love your layout for reviews, including the technical part - really sets you apart. The Porsche 911 is the car that I aspire to have one day; don't know if it will ever happen, but one can dream. I currently drive a BMW M240i, which I'll keep forever if I don't have the financial means for the 911 - but my God, the 911, from its incremental changes/improvements from generation to generation, to its build quality, legacy and performance that is unmatched. Rarely is Mark so uncritical of/so smitten by a car! The absolute joy both of you felt during the driving portion was obvious!
I know I keep saying this. Best car review show on TH-cam. It's more than a review show. When you guys do episodes like this is a tech history extravaganza!
Mr. Goose, I have been your subscriber since 2 years ago and in one of your videos, my comment got the most likes was the "getting trick into the wrong cars" the fine print series. This Porsche 911 992 generation review was so good yet very heavy! I have to pause to really understand the technical topic that you explained twice. I let my friend who is in mechanical engineering in Uni. He let his professor knows and it now becomes an informal discussion material for his class! Thank you for your quality content!
This was one of the best 2021 911 Porsche reviews I’ve seen yet. Excellent! Thank you! Keep it up! Give us more! Love the comedy also. Historians. LOL!
Nope, Porsche 911’s come apart very easily and rebuild very quickly and easily and are well built and engineered. Servicing is very easy. Just remove the under panels, bumper skins and lights as required... all come off very easily and refit as easily with no adjustments or complications
So I have a ND2 miata and I rented a 991 Carrera for the weekend. After driving the Porsche I realize just how good the miata is around corners and how nice it is to drive a car that weighs around 2400 pounds versus the 4000 pounds for the Porsche. However, what would make the miata perfect is more power to have better exit speed from corners. Also the Porsche is kind of pedestrian feeling. It’s comfortable and not that exciting. It’s like an everyday sports car that you can do ordinary things in. I’m not really saying that as a compliment. For 120,000 dollars you want something very exciting. Basically when I’m driving the Carrera I feel like I’m driving something to look pretty in. It’s for the people outside and not for me.
...you guys did become one of my favourite channels! Great mix of information, still delivered with The Driver in mind, based on a good fundament of knowledge and inside. Congratulations 👏
Long time viewer (and subscriber) here. Just want to say I notice and appreciate the quality of the production that goes into every one of your videos. Every shot is perfectly exposed and composed. I like your videos for numerous other reasons (the humor, the technical depth, the unvarnished opinions) but just want to give a shout out to the eye candy quality of your videos. It’s noticed and appreciated.
This channel is incredible. They do reviews better than virtually every everyone else on TH-cam. In fact, they're even better than channels that have millions of dollars/euros etc. funding them. Cheers.
In general you are very, very impressed with the sheer level of detail engineering in the 992, but one of you inadvertently sums it up by saying “all that power! ... What are you going to do with it?” You might as well have said all that grip, braking, handling too. You don’t say it in so many words but you are describing a technical masterpiece, but with the overarching caveat of “What are you going to do with it?”
As an ex-Porsche owner, it sums up my current view of Porsche precisely!
Really like your reviews guys - you cover cars the way they should be done. I recently took delivery of a 2021 991 S with all RWS, PDCC and PASM and you have hit the review spot on and accurately. Strong work. And as a 991.1 owner doing the upgrade to the 992, you are right on the money as to how this new platform blows away the prior generation.
Guys, you are the best at really unpacking any car you review to its core, from its basic building blocks to what makes it work, then giving your honest impressions of the car after driving it. So much better than all the ho-hum reviews on the net. Keep up the good work. And, oh yeah, the 992 911 is simply magnificent, thanks to Porsche for their persistent R&D that somehow keeps making this iconic car better with each iteration.
I’m a total novice and I drove this car on track at PECATL. It’s unreal how good of a driver this car makes you. I was able to drive at 100% without fear of my life.
Thanks guys, as always, brilliant insight into some interesting technical aspects in great detail. When you review cars, I more often than not end up wanting to buy one...
Hi everyone hope you're all well and staying safe during these uncertain times were on lock down in the UK again and I've just watched this brilliant review I took delivery of my 992 4s last year and I've got to say it's the best piece of kit I've ever driven the grip and handling is fantastic even in the wet weather and we have our share in the uk the finish of the interior and quality is the best I've had in a car for years people are moaning about the gear selector but let's face it put it in drive press the M button and take off begins you only touch it again to reverse the only problem is the outer gauges are terrible to see I think Porsche designer's didn't think that out very good apart from that I've no complaints and it's definitely got more than 450 horses under it they've put a 2s on a dyno hear and it done 475 bhp just think of a re map and exhaust charge what you could get out of it PDK or manual PDK for me plus just imagine how much a clutch replacement would be ? Thanks again for a good review keep them coming kind regards
@@shreyasshekhar4851 Yep, exactly. And not just that. When it needs oil, brakes, and other consumables it just gets to be out of reach for all but the retired and very wealthy. Maybe in a few years we will see these two successful enough to afford something like a Cayman R or 911 GT3
Porsche is more reliable than any Japanese car brand. In fact, it's been the MOST reliable car brand in the world for 2 years in a row globally, topping Lexus on 2nd place. And before that, it was always in top 3. And it's not even reliability, it's DURABILITY that puts Porsche in a totally different league. They can take abuse over years and still drive and feel like brand new, while Japanese cars tend to rattle themselves to pieces. People need to realize the difference between DURABILITY and RELIABILITY. Two different terms, and European cars tend to get shat on for reliability (mostly due to terrible servicing in USA) , but their durability is ignored. And they're WITHOUT ANY QUESTION the most durable in the world, with Porsche coming on top of that heap most likely.
Incredibly thorough and interesting review of the Porsche Carrera S 992. You guys made complex engineering simple to understand and appreciate. Great job! Thanks.
I've driven the 992 at two launch events and multiple times since - so I can confirm your findings. It is without a doubt one of the most brilliant sports cars in existence. But in its concept, it no longer represents the philosophy of the 911. It's gotten too digital, too automated, too "softcore", too big and too heavy. It's not that thoughtfully reduced, focused car anymore that old 911s used to be. It just lacks character.
Amazing technical presentation and so close to my driving feelings, I could add that lighting system is so good even without PDLS it is wide and the defined area is so accurate. Honestly the driving feedback this 992 gives is incredible, I thought that it may barely égale my x 981/gt4 but it over passes in terms of accurate steering feel and sharpness, the breaking despite being smaller diameter are so consistent and progressively powerful, not taking about the engine that is I bet more around 470 bhp. Porsche made this 992 so addictive to drive, my advice : never try one on a well known road you will feel upset by other car until you can get one.
I feel like I should live-blog the 20 minute tech section. 13:42 Where are sensors for rain sensing wipers and would they overrule the wheel-well wetness sensors ? Trust Porsche to design for the scenario where it stopped raining but you still have a wet road, but no other traffic, so there is no wet spray to trigger the windshield wiper sensors.
A great job guys thank you ! I own a pristine Silver ( 55k miles) 997 coupe 6 speed stick sunroof Porsche sport seats and exhaust. It runs better than new ! I have been struggling about buying a new one . One thing that really irritates me as you mentioned is the poor design of the instrument cluster and no manual option unless you order the new T or S . I also prefer a non turbo car and have read that there will possibly be a mid year refresh with a 4 liter non turbo engine and a better dashboard. I may keep my 997 if I buy a new one I love it that much she even has a name “ Shotsy “ 😊
The sound symposer are great and the third one in my case that I use is called the sunroof that emplyfies that sound even more. I use it till 90 mpg or 140 kmh.
Ok, I want one. I hope in 5 years I'll be healthy enough and financially able to drive/own one. I own a 997.2 Carrera S now and I'm willing to give it up for this new one!
There are no issues with the gauge cluster, it’s the same it has always been. You want to see the speed and tach, for temp and oil pressure - it will tell you if there is an issue, it is 2021.
One of the best videos I have seen on the 992. Brilliant! You also got a great spec, it made open the configurator. That said, at two points in the video (last one at 29:55) you mention "Volkswagen Audi Group", assuming this is your interpretation of VAG; I want to warn you that is not correct. It stands for Volkswagen AG = Volkswagen AktienGesellschaft. The international name of VAG is simply Volkswagen Group.
Technical talk is the best. Don't shorten it.
Agreed. It's easily the best part of the reviews, which are already better than any other auto reviews
Agreed! We want detailed car reviews like this not crappy ads of the cars what 99% of youtubers do.
Agreed. I just began watching these reviews and technical talk is a huge highlight!
Agreed. It’s what makes this channel so great.
@@bug4099 Right. I don't care how many boxes fit in it, or little Easter egg surprises the car has. Insight into the thought process behind the decisions and compromises is far more interesting to me.
Hats off to porsche for sticking with a rear mounted engine, and continuing to offer a manual transmission option on their cars. Their persistence to build pure driving cars will keep customers coming back
Seems like SUVs are now lol
@@DV-ou1yu SUVs made them continue producing and investing in 911's, so im not complaining at all.
@@AOTanoos22 And on top of that, the Cayenne and Macan are solid automobiles, so I have no complaints either.
Only a causal believes modern Porsche cars are pure driver's cars.
There's an unprecedented age wealth gap today and that's why the few people who are not buying an age-appropriate SUV want old school.
Porsche: The *only* car manufacturer that can go overboard on electronics and technical sophistication and STILL impress Mark.
I personally tend to think that Mark's more impressed by the amount of tech and engineering that goes into a car,rather than the car itself.
@@blairbrown4812 well he has an it Background
....because Porsche is one of the very few manufacturers that are remaining driving feel, car engagement and feedback despite total engineering and ultimate technical sophistication. That’s for most other manufacturers obviously impossible, or at least very difficult to deliver! I guess that’s why....
it's not about what the tech is or how much there is of it, its about how you use it
Watch what Lamborghini do with the Huracan replacement. But of course, that's the same company.
The shoppe segment of this channel really gave me a completely new appreciation for cars and is easily the best thing about this channel, besides the two great hosts that is.
+1! I know very little about cars, at least mechanically speaking, but this channel allowed me to start to appreciate the differences in engineering choices between companies. It's also super interesting to see how different companies choose to spend their money on the different parts of a car!
i love the shoppe segment and thought it was really good to see when the gr86/brz came out
5:40: "this is gonna be a long technical segment"
me with my dinner ready: "I AM READY"
I hope you had bratwurst and grilled potatoes
I tend to watch pure talk videos while having a meal. Those are more difficult to sit through without having something else to do. This is more active watchíng. (Although I got a bit weary on a spiritual level upon witnessing this easily funded engineering project for a select few.)
@@mrle0719 I had to make do with a hot dog sausage pack on discount at a local supermarket. Ain't much, but honest meal.
The only appropriate way to watch the tech segment is to eat 10 steaks and drink 20 beers before the segment ends
@@thedeadpoet000 dis is da way
Never made a comment in all my years of watching the TH-cam. Hope it helps the algorithm, can't believe you aren't over a million subs, so much better than anything else....?? Best car channel ever, keep up the excellent work Mark!
So many cars with limited appeal to the masses. My local hospital Doctor's parking garage is filled with Porsches, but most people can't afford these toys.
Buy a used one or FD RX-7
@@fzr1000981 oh, a friend from another channel's comment section :) great minds think alike:))
honestly i'm just really impressed all of this technical data was available to the public. absolutely loved this mr. goose, keep up the great work
Porsche can pretty much publicly brag about their tuning because no other brand can justify spending that much on a low-volume car without the boardroom investors shutting them down. It's amazing what Porsche achieved here without being forced by the current car market.
I’m impressed with their matching Patagonia blouses.
I went to the Porsche website and the technical stats didn't load on my new browser, only on IE11. Probably all that cookie, data tracking, surveillance crap I am not letting through on my current one. - Also inconsistent presentation. For some but not all models I had to scroll all the way to the bottom to find technical specs and those didn't mention max engine RPM.
Crappy web design is analogous to orange peel skin. It's abundant in all price classes.
And it's sad because a couple years ago the Porsche website stood out to me for not making issues but working fine eben with total cookie blocking and everything.
Which is a side topic: The more marketing gathers analytical data about customers, the less they promote expertise to understand them naturally. It cripples human traits.
It's hardly a secret... you can get a shop manual for ~$20 that will give you hundreds of pages of detailed info on each of the things described.
Thank you for what you do and making these videos possible. Since this video directly influenced my decision to get a 992 this is the least I can give thanks with.
Best Savagegees video ever? What a technical, comprehensive, and enthusiastic review. This must have been a ton of work and it shows. Thanks for doing it!
Guards Red 911 with a manual? I'm sold.
Only thing missing is black fuchs wheels
@@Randomusername2001 Can't go wrong!
This really was a solid spec
Red has become such a boring color through overuse in every market segment.
I commend Audi for being able to find a tone of it that still excites and expresses what red was always supposed to be instead of a shadow of its former self.
Red has become the silver for people who intellectualize passion.
amen
These cars are becoming so technologically advanced that every rich person will finally be a good driver without trying. Yes, I'm jealous.
pretty sure some rich guy that goes to the track all year round will out drive you any day.
@Bronze XV70 Not with that attitude my guy!
@@hby7768 ikr, the rich guys have the time and money to afford the track days, it ain't cheap
@@hby7768 eh...most rich guys park their stuff in a garage then occasionally pull out their sports car to drive slow.
@The Pug That Jumped Over The Moon lets say, hypothetically,....
This is by far the best Porsche 992 review i have seen on TH-cam! The amount of details and informations that are put in this video are just next level!
As a mechanical engineering student, I can only say thank you for this review. Those 20 minutes in the shoppe were so interesting and the information given is just detailed enough to captivate someone like me (I paused on every slide) without going too far to be understood by nearly everybody. Also, you've given me a 911 obsession! Wow, that car is impressive! I had the chance to drive a 2018 911 turbo, but it is now my dream to drive (and maybe own someday) a manual 911 like this one. You guys are awesome, I can't believe this video is free. Stay safe and keep making those awesome reviews!
I love how porsche has a constant technical improvement on all aspects of their cars except the exhaust bolts
Seriously right! 500 mile car and those bolts look like shit.
So nothing has changed in 50 years then...
They still like to leak oil after all these years, too.
Retro design, retro bolts
@@artagain8977 Like the orange peel paint.
I once had self-fitted V4A-80 bolts on my Corolla E9 exhaust connections and header shield. Just out of spite for this crap.
Mechanical Engineer checking in. This was easily the best car review I’ve ever watched. So good, thank you.
You guys are a big part of the reason MotorTrend knows they need to change their business model
Too bad Jason Camisa left
So true
And this folks is why Porsche is 40k more than a C8
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right on
The C8 isn't finished yet.
@@JAnx01 Neither is the 911. We still have to wait for the Turbo and Turbo S stateside. The GTS, GT3, and GT3RS are yet to be announced.
@@sidpandya6827 That wasn't my point. The base 911 already feels like a finished product. The C8 platform needs a few more years of fine-tunning.
It's amazing how much better Jack has gotten. He's really turned it into a two person gig and his laugh makes snicker every time.
Ive been daily driving a 2020 Carrera S for the past two weeks - everyday Super Car. Grins and giggles. A lot of fun.
Guys you surpassed your benchmark Mazda 3 video with this, well done. Having all the tech data and videos from the manufacturer cut in with your own footage and commentary is seamless and suits your presenting style. Very enjoyable. As for the car, I do love it but to me it looks like it has a lot of stuff that could go wrong. It's definitely digital.
15:42 - I've never seen/heard a laugh stop that quick in a sincere moment.
lol
😂 good catch
Creepy
At 0.75x speed it becomes normal.
Jack does this in a lot of videos, it's really bizarre hahaha!
I am also SO THANKFUL that Porsche stayed honest and does not “pipe in “ fake engine noises like BMW !! As a 30 year BMW owner in the 80’s and 90’s ( I owned a wonderful gray market 1985 M535i never should of sold it ! ) I find their move sacrilege!!
Best car critique in TH-cam! Love the tech segmnts! Precise, spontaneous and honest! Kudos Mark and Jack!
This video convinced me to buy a 992 Carrera S, 9 months of absolutely joyous driving later I can say it was a great decision. Thanks gentleman!
This is my first time commenting on this channel, although I’ve been watching for quite a while now. The technical part was just perfect. The driving impressions were so clear and Mark and Jack’s enthusiasm is contagious. Makes me want to go to the nearest Porsche dealer just to see this car!
Savagegeese is my favourite TH-cam automotive review channel because of the superb detail they go through. I love geeking out to the technical details, especially one my dream car. Thank you for this. Never ever apologize for what you do. It's awesome! That's why I'm here. That's why we're here.
"20 minute shoppe segment" - This is why I am here
I've never been a Porsche fanboy but this review has given me better appreciation of the 911 and the technical details that make it so good. Great review.
I mean, if you researched it's Motorsports pedigree you would've appreciated a long time ago....... There's no other vehicle as dominated and race successful as the 911......... From beating prototypes in endurance racing to cars with double the power in IMSA/Trans Am.........
Too bad they’re pulling the factory IMSA program. 😭
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo Oh I know some of their racing pedigree. What I don't like is how much they look alike from year to year. You need 5 to 10 years to notice a difference. This review showed some of the changes made under the skin which was a lot and apparently all added up major improvements. The only Porsche that impressed me a lot was the 918 and that was years ago.
@@rynomite_ I think I know why they do it and its a good reason. The problem is over the years the roads have a lot of them and unless you're a fan boy its hard to tell the difference year over year. They loose their "specialness". They're at a point now where I don't think their fans would allow significant changes. There is less incentive to trade up for a newer model. It allows them to put more money in the rest of the car and most of the time it works (except the move to all turbos.) I think the Taycan looks a lot better and is still a Porsche. Whoever thought a Porsche should sound like a Subaru was wrong. Hey, I'm not a marketing expert its only an opinion.
Over 3 years later and I still keep coming back to this video. Either that means I'm destined to own a well used 911 when I'm in my late 60's and all my bones are shot to shit, or you guys have really made something special here. I can't deal with that intro. It's just perfect.
This review sold me the car. I ended up purchasing a new 2021 911 Carrera S in Australia a year ago. My only criticism is that the sound is reduced due to the OPF's in Australia/UK. I think the US version does sound better, you do get to hear more of the flax six sound. Otherwise its been the perfect daily driver's car.
No one holds their hands that high on the steering 😂 what a silly whine to have. Great video though, superb review of an incredible car.
How in the hell does (do) Savage Geese not have 2 million subscribers? Consistently the best automotive content. Keep it up guys.
I can’t wait the day those two are going to go through the GT3’s.
I've never seen someone talk about tactile feel of interior controls and I love it. Details matter.
Guys, your reviews are on a different dimension, compared to everyone else on TH-cam. Congrats on the amazing content and the no-bs, no-nonsense delivery!!
My takeaway from these last two videos is that the 992 would be lighter than the (add lightness company) Lotus Evora GT, if it did away with the sound deadening, tech, stereo, ect to match the Evora GT. The 992 is such an engineering marvel. I do love that unlike the Corvette, you can still get a manual transmission on the 992. This was a fantastic break down of everything on the 992. This video produced a newfound respect for the 992 I wouldn't have otherwise had. Such a great job on this fellas
In 2013, I brought my 2012 991 Carrera into the Porsche Dealer for an annual tuneup and oil change. I was loaned a 997 Carrera S. After driving the S for the day and then picking up my 991, the comparison just blew me away. The newest generation was so much better than the previous generation that my Carrera standard was so much better than the S in every area. Apparently 8 years of evolution in the S, makes the latest generation so much more car than the earlier generation that the two are almost not comparable. It is so much better. An interior that is special and still has switches and the electronics that control the car make it an amazing experience and in control in all cases, even during the rain. The 991 was so much car that I'm in no hurry to part with my old NA 3.4 liter standard Carrera. For those who don't have a Porsche but always wanted one, the S version of this latest car (or a GTS version) is the one to have, unless you have to have a super car. Then you'll have to pony up the money to afford the GT3. AF
I was lucky enough to drive my neighbors 992 carrera s cabriolet with the sport exhaust and pdk and the only thing i can say is holy shit. The noises that car makes combined with how insanely fast it feels was such an insane experience, without a doubt the best car i have ever driven.
I’ve watched nearly ever 992 911 video on TH-cam. As always, I learned more in this video than every other one combined. Bravo Mark and Jack.
Incredible car. I rented one out for a weekend and feel in love with it. Lived with it and rode it around and definitely going to pick one up within 2 years.
This my favorite auto channel on TH-cam! I love the mix of humor technical review and driver impressions!
As for the Porsche I was never much of a fan boy until I had the pleasure of driving a GT2 at one of these driving experiences. I was all excited to drive a Lamborghini and a Ferrari (which I really didn't fit in as I am a little over 6' 3") and enjoyed those cars but one of the instructors talked me in to driving the Porches GT2 and OMG I fell in love with that car that I paid for 2 more sessions! I felt the most comfortable in the Porsche and had the fastest laps that just kept getting better and better.
Thank you guys for the great content and keep them coming!
Best review on the 992 I’ve ever seen.love the tech talk, and then you drive it like it was meant to be driven. Subscribed.
The MOST BEAUTIFUL car on the road IMHO...The lines are so PURE & FLAWLESS! Hatts off to Porsche for this 991 911: they nailed it!
What a great review. Probably the most comprehensive 992 review I've seen anywhere. Love the engineering details you guys covered.
About the only issue I had is the comment about trial braking and how all 911's are good at it. That's totally false. I have a 997.1 C2 and my number one complaint about the handling is how you CANNOT trail brake the car. Lots of Google searches will you show that for the 997, Porsche decided they would not allow the car to rotate under braking -- even if you turn off TC and PSM. So even if you turn off PSM it's never fully off and you can't get the car to rotate, unless you purposely upset the car to the point where PSM can't correct for you. As an experienced driver who was able to consistently trail brake a Lotus Elise through corners around all kinds of race tracks, I can't do it in my 997. And it's super frustrating.
Other than that little personal trigger, it was a great video.
I am about take delivery of my new 2024 911 S Guards Red after 17 months on an allocation list. Thanks for this video.
This channel is simply outstanding. Writing, presentation, aesthetics, audio, cinematography everything is bang on. Appreciate the Hi-Fi emphasis in car reviews, I have never seen any other reviewers posting waterfall graphs in their car reviews 😂😂😂
Just placed my order - a lifelong dream fulfilled and thanks to you both.
Cars such as this are the reasons I buy lottery tickets.
I buy one a week. If it’s meant to be then I’ll get it.
You're better off working hard, save that lottery money to actually buy the car haha
Just automatically put money into a Vanguard index fund every week and in 20 years you'll have it. People always want instant gratification that's why you see so many suckers who make $40k a year driving $50k trucks.
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. $2 a week is nothing. It’s fun to play.
1 in 14 million your chances of winning on Lottery good luck lol
I'm so impressed with this car I think I want to disassemble one and look at and get to know it and then put it back together with extreme care.
I've never been so impressed with the engineering of a car in my life!
This is the kind of engineering and attention to detail that the other German car manufacturers have lost.
I'm 71 and I'd drive one of these with the manual gear box and love every minute of it.
i LOVE all the throwbacks to the 930, hell even the side mirrors look like a modernized version of the old ones, and the no-nonsense interior and great driving position is a masterpiece.
Truly an amazing car.
Love the shoppe tech segment. You guys find more material than I can even search and find on net. Excellent job.
This is not a normal car.... The 911 has been a league ahead ever since I first saw them racing at Brands Hatch in the late 60s and 70s... Loved it then, Really Love it now.😍
My missus and I bought an LC500 a couple seasons back. The lease is up this coming spring, and this is our next car. Can't wait, the enthusiasm in this review is exactly how I felt when I drove the 992 S.
What most people don’t understand is that Porsche’s engines sing a song.
I enjoy watching car reviews on a very regular basis. This is THE best technical review by people that understand what they are talking about that I have ever seen. Gentlemen, thank you for your time in presenting this most comprehensive review.
Jack really puts some work in on the technical side!
I want to thank you guys for what you do. You two are the gold standard to me for when I want to see an automotive review. Absolutely love your layout for reviews, including the technical part - really sets you apart. The Porsche 911 is the car that I aspire to have one day; don't know if it will ever happen, but one can dream. I currently drive a BMW M240i, which I'll keep forever if I don't have the financial means for the 911 - but my God, the 911, from its incremental changes/improvements from generation to generation, to its build quality, legacy and performance that is unmatched. Rarely is Mark so uncritical of/so smitten by a car! The absolute joy both of you felt during the driving portion was obvious!
interior quality got worse compared to the 991.2 actually
Best reviews a person could ever watch. Thanks for the time and effort you guys put into this.
I know I keep saying this. Best car review show on TH-cam. It's more than a review show. When you guys do episodes like this is a tech history extravaganza!
Great deep dive. When you barely hear Mark complain about the interior, you know it's a winner. You guys should do a "how'd we spec it" series.
One of the best clips on Porsche.
Porsche makes the best cars in the world period. They've stuck to their roots and haven't abandoned them like, cough...cough... BMW.
Mr. Goose, I have been your subscriber since 2 years ago and in one of your videos, my comment got the most likes was the "getting trick into the wrong cars" the fine print series.
This Porsche 911 992 generation review was so good yet very heavy! I have to pause to really understand the technical topic that you explained twice. I let my friend who is in mechanical engineering in Uni. He let his professor knows and it now becomes an informal discussion material for his class!
Thank you for your quality content!
This was one of the best 2021 911 Porsche reviews I’ve seen yet. Excellent! Thank you! Keep it up! Give us more! Love the comedy also. Historians. LOL!
I love the technical talk, you guys are the best, thank you!
Only 423k subs? this channel is so Underated!!! Love your content!!
My favorite testers for technical analysis and deep driving feedback. Great job.
The maintenance must be sort of complicated!
Nope, Porsche 911’s come apart very easily and rebuild very quickly and easily and are well built and engineered. Servicing is very easy.
Just remove the under panels, bumper skins and lights as required... all come off very easily and refit as easily with no adjustments or complications
@@jamest5149 no
the first step for a lot of things is to drop the engine and transmission
@@jamest5149 this isn't the 90s
@@CP-vg4vy I was about to reply to your comment questioning why you disagree but then I saw your pfp and knew you weren’t being serious.
So I have a ND2 miata and I rented a 991 Carrera for the weekend. After driving the Porsche I realize just how good the miata is around corners and how nice it is to drive a car that weighs around 2400 pounds versus the 4000 pounds for the Porsche. However, what would make the miata perfect is more power to have better exit speed from corners. Also the Porsche is kind of pedestrian feeling. It’s comfortable and not that exciting. It’s like an everyday sports car that you can do ordinary things in. I’m not really saying that as a compliment. For 120,000 dollars you want something very exciting. Basically when I’m driving the Carrera I feel like I’m driving something to look pretty in. It’s for the people outside and not for me.
...you guys did become one of my favourite channels! Great mix of information, still delivered with The Driver in mind, based on a good fundament of knowledge and inside. Congratulations 👏
Long time viewer (and subscriber) here. Just want to say I notice and appreciate the quality of the production that goes into every one of your videos. Every shot is perfectly exposed and composed. I like your videos for numerous other reasons (the humor, the technical depth, the unvarnished opinions) but just want to give a shout out to the eye candy quality of your videos. It’s noticed and appreciated.
This is the very first of Your videos I have ever seen and something's telling me that it's not the last one 💪.
Fair Play!
This channel is incredible. They do reviews better than virtually every everyone else on TH-cam. In fact, they're even better than channels that have millions of dollars/euros etc. funding them. Cheers.
I regularly watch and re-watch a lot of their videos. The production value and knowledge is great. Check out their other videos!
Hands down the most comprehensive review of a 911 you can find. Top top work guys.
These two dudes are just awesome! Absolutely love all the detail and their style in presenting.
In general you are very, very impressed with the sheer level of detail engineering in the 992, but one of you inadvertently sums it up by saying “all that power! ... What are you going to do with it?” You might as well have said all that grip, braking, handling too. You don’t say it in so many words but you are describing a technical masterpiece, but with the overarching caveat of “What are you going to do with it?”
As an ex-Porsche owner, it sums up my current view of Porsche precisely!
I've watched this review 4 times and something tells me, I will watch it more. I didn't like the 992 until that review!
Really like your reviews guys - you cover cars the way they should be done. I recently took delivery of a 2021 991 S with all RWS, PDCC and PASM and you have hit the review spot on and accurately. Strong work. And as a 991.1 owner doing the upgrade to the 992, you are right on the money as to how this new platform blows away the prior generation.
I was impressed by the review instead of the car. It is thorough and clear at the same time. SAVAGEgeese's 2020 best Review
Guys, you are the best at really unpacking any car you review to its core, from its basic building blocks to what makes it work, then giving your honest impressions of the car after driving it. So much better than all the ho-hum reviews on the net. Keep up the good work. And, oh yeah, the 992 911 is simply magnificent, thanks to Porsche for their persistent R&D that somehow keeps making this iconic car better with each iteration.
Slowly all this great technology trickles down and hopefully soon I can get aftermarket adaptive shocks for my golf gti mk7
This stuff trickles down to the masses like rich old people's pee.
check out the tech on the new mk8 golf R. it's happening right now.
I’m a total novice and I drove this car on track at PECATL. It’s unreal how good of a driver this car makes you. I was able to drive at 100% without fear of my life.
Thanks guys, as always, brilliant insight into some interesting technical aspects in great detail. When you review cars, I more often than not end up wanting to buy one...
Hi everyone hope you're all well and staying safe during these uncertain times were on lock down in the UK again and I've just watched this brilliant review I took delivery of my 992 4s last year and I've got to say it's the best piece of kit I've ever driven the grip and handling is fantastic even in the wet weather and we have our share in the uk the finish of the interior and quality is the best I've had in a car for years people are moaning about the gear selector but let's face it put it in drive press the M button and take off begins you only touch it again to reverse the only problem is the outer gauges are terrible to see I think Porsche designer's didn't think that out very good apart from that I've no complaints and it's definitely got more than 450 horses under it they've put a 2s on a dyno hear and it done 475 bhp just think of a re map and exhaust charge what you could get out of it PDK or manual PDK for me plus just imagine how much a clutch replacement would be ? Thanks again for a good review keep them coming kind regards
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Don't remove the in depth technical segments, it's one of the reasons I subscribed to this channel.
I just love how timeless the look for 911s are. It's too bad I prefer boring Japanese reliability :(
for us, mortals, japanese reliability is the best we can have :)
Porsche's tend to be pretty reliable actually. It's too bad they cost so much to fix.
Yeah totally agree with you, but the 911 is considered to be the most reliable car from Germany. But when it breaks it costs a lot
@@shreyasshekhar4851 Yep, exactly. And not just that. When it needs oil, brakes, and other consumables it just gets to be out of reach for all but the retired and very wealthy. Maybe in a few years we will see these two successful enough to afford something like a Cayman R or 911 GT3
Porsche is more reliable than any Japanese car brand. In fact, it's been the MOST reliable car brand in the world for 2 years in a row globally, topping Lexus on 2nd place. And before that, it was always in top 3. And it's not even reliability, it's DURABILITY that puts Porsche in a totally different league. They can take abuse over years and still drive and feel like brand new, while Japanese cars tend to rattle themselves to pieces. People need to realize the difference between DURABILITY and RELIABILITY. Two different terms, and European cars tend to get shat on for reliability (mostly due to terrible servicing in USA) , but their durability is ignored. And they're WITHOUT ANY QUESTION the most durable in the world, with Porsche coming on top of that heap most likely.
Incredibly thorough and interesting review of the Porsche Carrera S 992. You guys made complex engineering simple to understand and appreciate. Great job! Thanks.
That right turn with the power lines on the left should be named the savage elbow, i swear i see it in almost all of their driving footage
I've driven the 992 at two launch events and multiple times since - so I can confirm your findings.
It is without a doubt one of the most brilliant sports cars in existence. But in its concept, it no longer represents the philosophy of the 911. It's gotten too digital, too automated, too "softcore", too big and too heavy. It's not that thoughtfully reduced, focused car anymore that old 911s used to be. It just lacks character.
when jack singapore sprinkles porsche knowledge all over your face
Amazing technical presentation and so close to my driving feelings, I could add that lighting system is so good even without PDLS it is wide and the defined area is so accurate. Honestly the driving feedback this 992 gives is incredible, I thought that it may barely égale my x 981/gt4 but it over passes in terms of accurate steering feel and sharpness, the breaking despite being smaller diameter are so consistent and progressively powerful, not taking about the engine that is I bet more around 470 bhp. Porsche made this 992 so addictive to drive, my advice : never try one on a well known road you will feel upset by other car until you can get one.
I feel like I should live-blog the 20 minute tech section. 13:42 Where are sensors for rain sensing wipers and would they overrule the wheel-well wetness sensors ?
Trust Porsche to design for the scenario where it stopped raining but you still have a wet road, but no other traffic, so there is no wet spray to trigger the windshield wiper sensors.
rain sensor is a LED based system in the windshield. its complete separate from the other system
@@benjaminkessler8169 Correct, in most vehicles it’s tucked into the housing where the rear view mirror is adhered to the windshield
A great job guys thank you ! I own a pristine Silver ( 55k miles) 997 coupe 6 speed stick sunroof Porsche sport seats and exhaust. It runs better than new ! I have been struggling about buying a new one . One thing that really irritates me as you mentioned is the poor design of the instrument cluster and no manual option unless you order the new T or S . I also prefer a non turbo car and have read that there will possibly be a mid year refresh with a 4 liter non turbo engine and a better dashboard. I may keep my 997 if I buy a new one I love it that much she even has a name “ Shotsy “ 😊
savagegeese coming at us with the sauce🤣 now where is the adult's version where I can hear the joke that was edited out?
I really wanna know why they had to bleep the whole sentence...
@@dannypitassy probably some karen gets their panties in a twist and these guys loose money for it.
Lip reading... I think he said "their (germans) version of humor is to invade Poland" idk... just a guess
@@7sins979 - I hate loose money.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH me too ;3
The sound symposer are great and the third one in my case that I use is called the sunroof that emplyfies that sound even more. I use it till 90 mpg or 140 kmh.
17:23 "Is to invade Poland" 😂😂
nice catch
Probably.
Jak sie masz?
😂 nice catch
😂😂 thanks for answering the question I didn’t even need to ask 🤣🤣
Ok, I want one. I hope in 5 years I'll be healthy enough and financially able to drive/own one. I own a 997.2 Carrera S now and I'm willing to give it up for this new one!
Your technical prowess is turning me on...
Is that your Porsche in the pfp sir?
@@chinadashauthority65 yes
There are no issues with the gauge cluster, it’s the same it has always been. You want to see the speed and tach, for temp and oil pressure - it will tell you if there is an issue, it is 2021.
One of the best videos I have seen on the 992. Brilliant! You also got a great spec, it made open the configurator.
That said, at two points in the video (last one at 29:55) you mention "Volkswagen Audi Group", assuming this is your interpretation of VAG; I want to warn you that is not correct. It stands for Volkswagen AG = Volkswagen AktienGesellschaft. The international name of VAG is simply Volkswagen Group.
“AG” is denoting the legal entity type... So “AG” in Germany is similar to “Inc.” in US terms.