Depends on your field. Smart employers want to make sure that you know what you are doing. Most college degrees show that you have wasted a lot of your time and money on the subjects that have zero correlation to your career. Certifications show that you know what you are doing and show that you decided not to waste time or money.
If you’re wasting time in school then your money will be wasted. If your locked in and focused It only makes sense that you’re highly skilled in the field you studied.
I find that companies like certifications. Especially due to companies needing certified people to meet a partnership requirement. AWS and CCNA for instance. A job with AWS could land someone a a very handsome job and get this.... practically zero debt. Does anyone know how much a masters degree in computer science from a decent school would set someone back?
Congrats on the Security+! I got mine right after I finished my Masters, got the GIAC Certified Incident Handler through work about a year ago and am studying for the CASP (hoping to get it before I start my PhD work).
I can tell you that a degree is largely a waste of money, you won’t learn any CS until your 4th year and even the classes don’t teach much. Can buy the same book for a fraction of the cost. College is only good for meeting people as companies often recruit out of universities in there area. I did certification got a sponsor and security clearance all without a worthless degree. Go to college if you want to be a lawyer, doctor, or engineer. You literally leave with no experience it’s only a measure of perseverance. Follow the college model and you’ll be broke for the remainder of your life and dependent upon a job you hate just to live while you pay off your debt until you actually start making money. Keep that 200k+ to invest in yourself or business ideas. Colleges spend all their money on their over bloated administration staff which increase by 50% in recent times and not recruiting great professors that actually care. You’re literally better off going to a company you really want to work at then go there everyday, persistence is the key they’re going to say no a lot but keep coming back they’ll respect you and it shows more than a resume ever will on your character and tenacity to get a job. You can also go to your neighbors particularly a wealthy one and ask to chat and if they could help you find a job. Works every time in fact the job I got I showed up to everyday to talk to the boss and was met with a hard No each time but I kept coming back. On the last day i went in again and asked the same thing as all previous times and this time she said “you know what wait here” before I know it I’m in his office. I slide him my resume as he l finished looking it over he says “you’ve been showing up here everyday to talk to me and I’m running a 20 million dollar company” pause of silence. “I like that shit” got the job. Coolest thing that ever happened to me
Question if someone were to go with gaining certification or maybe a tech degree from say a community college would they realistically be able to find a decent job?
@@stephenadair8356 A degree can come later. And there are schools that will accredit you based upon your certifications and experience. That means less time getting your degree.
@@Clarence_Stinson it can which is why i said certs for getting in. You would be surprised how many of us in my cyber engineering classes have no certs and only do school 12 credit hours with no job. Pretty concerning considering its a private school and the tuition is insane.
@@Clarence_Stinson a+ , network +, sec+ certs. I start cyber engineering degree on tuaday . But looking at jobs its preatty easy to land $25+ an hour with a network or sec +. Im just doing full time school cause im on the GI bill and i make more being full time working part time then part time school and full time work.
Hey Grant I´m a marketing and market research degree student in Spain and I just discovered this incredible cybersecurity world. I would like to major in something related to cybersecurity if I had the chance. How could I start studying and learning on my own the fundamentals to obtain, maybe, one day that certification? Great content by the way I´m hooked on your videos!
Hi Jose! I would say take a look at free training platforms or even just looking up TH-cam crash courses on the fundamentals of I.T., networking, and cybersecurity. I am releasing a program actually tomorrow which teaches you the fundamentals of I.T., programming, and Linux. But by all means I am not trying to "self-promo". You can take a look at the course concepts if you would like and Google them if you want to as well!
Great video! Im studying electrical and electronic engineering (BEng) and I don't enjoy my class because I thought it was going to be something that I may enjoy, but after some months of really thinking about it, I want to do an online course for either Cyber Security or Software engineering, for half a year for a certification and then go on towards apprenticeships. I really wanna know if this is the best approach? From the UK by the way.
protectyaneck__ didn't like it. wasn't the type of environment that i was hoping for. a lot of things contributed to it so can't really point out specific things. bottom line: i'm not opposed to going back, probably not for the same thing but if something lines up i'll definitely go after it
Thank you so much for this because I am currently in undergrad for cyber security and I’ve been conflicted if I needed the certifications on top of my degree. From my understand it’s that they are one in the same yea? Or do you think that even after completing my degree I should still pursue the certifications?
hello sir I am 19 yrs old I am in commerce field after some month in commerce, I started i completed all my course like ceh ,chfi, ecsa , currently, I am doing lpt-licensed-penetration-tester and advanced l-penetration-tester by ec council is it good and value in society I am afraid bcuz i am commerce guy will my value in this field I have done n+, ciscp - certification information security consultancy, professional so it like can u give some advice how i start my bug bounty what things should i learn more to goo to red team
there is a 2 year cyber security plan/course im thinking about taking it will get me an Associates in cyber security but it seems like it is all online. Are online classes any good? I never tried online classes. Will i learn? What should i expect and should i spend money on it? ty
@@rkb3991 Hey, i decided to study c++ and entered a program for a bachelors in computer science instead. and its going great. a lot to learn and im not even at the half of it.
Hey Grant, I am a current student at John A. Logan pursing a major in cyber security & computer forensics. I plan to transfer over to SEMO for my bachelors degree in cyber security. Hearing out from many people I’ve heard that certifications are absolutely necessary in this field to get a job, but I personally wanted to ask you that based on the video if someone just gets a degree in cyber security and no certifications, do they still get good job opportunities?
I would recommend the OSCP over the CEH. The CEH, at least from the United States perspective, holds less value as the answers are "online" (Don't quote me on that - but they are more memorization-base). Whereas the OSCP is all about hands-on. I would recommend the OSCP over the CEH any day. If you already have the CEH, then that's great, but consider other options before the CEH.
I recently passed my CEH certification. It was not easy it was 125 questions. It will teach you the basics of hacking. I had a really fun time learning it. I learned a lot by doing hands on training with my kali linux virtualbox.
ysg 804 bro , do you actually have to just pass the test? Or it will differ if you answer 70 right questions and another one answered 80 an such things?
Hi I am your fan from Asia. I am still learning English. Maybe you have presented in this video, but I didn't get the message. my question is that could a person work as an engineer especially cybersecurity without a CD college degree?
I am currently in grade 12 trying to get to CS at university. What can I do after a bachelors/masters to become an cybersecurity expert/ethical hacker?
iTechGaming I highly recommend you not to go for a college degree, instead you could like do a full year of programming, 2nd full year of Networking, 3rd of the Security specifics and 4th of the actual in depth specific niche you’d like to pursue in CyberSec like Network or Web Or AppSec and trust me by the end, you’d be UNSTOPPABLE. Opt for a college Degree and there goes the 4 years doing just the basics or everything!
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Certs will get you in the door for a job. The degree will enhance your career growth and earnings potential.
Notails well said my friend!
Yeah I see that. Very true
Yes
So this means i will never be able to earn as much as someone with a degree... bruh
@@aty4282 Over generalized statement. The degree is simply a big factor in earnings potential. It is not the only factor.
Depends on your field. Smart employers want to make sure that you know what you are doing. Most college degrees show that you have wasted a lot of your time and money on the subjects that have zero correlation to your career. Certifications show that you know what you are doing and show that you decided not to waste time or money.
Very true
If you’re wasting time in school then your money will be wasted. If your locked in and focused It only makes sense that you’re highly skilled in the field you studied.
Wil Thomas, it means that your P&L will be used as a toilet paper by a banker. Until proven otherwise.
@@slime6all484 u can easily get distracted in school
@@Prachka1 bankers need school also so ur point is pointless
I find that companies like certifications. Especially due to companies needing certified people to meet a partnership requirement. AWS and CCNA for instance. A job with AWS could land someone a a very handsome job and get this.... practically zero debt. Does anyone know how much a masters degree in computer science from a decent school would set someone back?
Very true I may consider doing the cert route and continue to increase my vocabulary, faster typing skills, and reading. :)
Like 70k
Congrats on the Security+! I got mine right after I finished my Masters, got the GIAC Certified Incident Handler through work about a year ago and am studying for the CASP (hoping to get it before I start my PhD work).
I can tell you that a degree is largely a waste of money, you won’t learn any CS until your 4th year and even the classes don’t teach much. Can buy the same book for a fraction of the cost. College is only good for meeting people as companies often recruit out of universities in there area. I did certification got a sponsor and security clearance all without a worthless degree. Go to college if you want to be a lawyer, doctor, or engineer. You literally leave with no experience it’s only a measure of perseverance. Follow the college model and you’ll be broke for the remainder of your life and dependent upon a job you hate just to live while you pay off your debt until you actually start making money. Keep that 200k+ to invest in yourself or business ideas. Colleges spend all their money on their over bloated administration staff which increase by 50% in recent times and not recruiting great professors that actually care. You’re literally better off going to a company you really want to work at then go there everyday, persistence is the key they’re going to say no a lot but keep coming back they’ll respect you and it shows more than a resume ever will on your character and tenacity to get a job. You can also go to your neighbors particularly a wealthy one and ask to chat and if they could help you find a job. Works every time in fact the job I got I showed up to everyday to talk to the boss and was met with a hard No each time but I kept coming back. On the last day i went in again and asked the same thing as all previous times and this time she said “you know what wait here” before I know it I’m in his office. I slide him my resume as he l finished looking it over he says “you’ve been showing up here everyday to talk to me and I’m running a 20 million dollar company” pause of silence. “I like that shit” got the job. Coolest thing that ever happened to me
Starts at 4:20
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.... thought i was the only one hearing it
Question if someone were to go with gaining certification or maybe a tech degree from say a community college would they realistically be able to find a decent job?
I wish to know as well
Starting jobs with a certification makes good money
I really like how you present your videos,it's somewhat satisfying.Good music and helpful contents.
Thank you!
What about undergrad certificate in I.T? 10-18 credits worth and most can be transferred into degrees.
Certification > degree 100% of the time
For getting in yes, moving up no
@@stephenadair8356 A degree can come later. And there are schools that will accredit you based upon your certifications and experience. That means less time getting your degree.
@@Clarence_Stinson it can which is why i said certs for getting in. You would be surprised how many of us in my cyber engineering classes have no certs and only do school 12 credit hours with no job. Pretty concerning considering its a private school and the tuition is insane.
@@stephenadair8356 What cyber security classes do you have? Are they're online?
@@Clarence_Stinson a+ , network +, sec+ certs. I start cyber engineering degree on tuaday . But looking at jobs its preatty easy to land $25+ an hour with a network or sec +. Im just doing full time school cause im on the GI bill and i make more being full time working part time then part time school and full time work.
Is getting an online degree in cyber security just as fine as a college one?
Gael Solache I am doing an online cyber security degree as well from my local state college. Many degrees are online now so it should be fine.
Ash Brown if you don’t mind me asking which are you doing
Hell yeah it is
Congratulations bro thanks for your knowledge
Anytime :-) - Thanks for the kind regards!
Congratz man I am studying for my 220-901 I hope to take it before the end of the month
Good luck! I wish you the best! Keep studying!
Editing is getting better! Thanks for the video!
definitely, noticed that too
Great vid. You put out such great content that it is hard for me to believe your channel is not bigger.
what are the top 5 cyber security certs?
I really want to know as well! Especially for someone works in the maritime sector and would like to be specified in maritime cyber security!
What about a cybersecurity certificate in college?
you're a legend
Hey Grant I´m a marketing and market research degree student in Spain and I just discovered this incredible cybersecurity world. I would like to major in something related to cybersecurity if I had the chance. How could I start studying and learning on my own the fundamentals to obtain, maybe, one day that certification?
Great content by the way I´m hooked on your videos!
Hi Jose! I would say take a look at free training platforms or even just looking up TH-cam crash courses on the fundamentals of I.T., networking, and cybersecurity.
I am releasing a program actually tomorrow which teaches you the fundamentals of I.T., programming, and Linux. But by all means I am not trying to "self-promo". You can take a look at the course concepts if you would like and Google them if you want to as well!
Great video!
Im studying electrical and electronic engineering (BEng) and I don't enjoy my class because I thought it was going to be something that I may enjoy, but after some months of really thinking about it,
I want to do an online course for either Cyber Security or Software engineering, for half a year for a certification and then go on towards apprenticeships.
I really wanna know if this is the best approach?
From the UK by the way.
I’ve also got the same issue…would please let me know what you find out, thanks.
I am in the same situation as you right now down to the last detail, what did you end up doing?
@@JsWorldRJ I am now studying software engineering BSc, currently a 1st year student at the university
@@rokasgaraimas9295 Wow a very quick reply considering you left this comment nearly a year ago lol. Thank you!
man make a video on
your computer setup
Yes. Plsssssss
In the making, trust me, I know this is a big request!
@@collinsinfosec I am being waiting for this for months do it as fast as you can
Hmm interesting. Btw, congrats 🎊.. I’m soon to be a college dropout and honestly, I can’t even be upset about it
RayMysteryo what made you dropout?
protectyaneck__ didn't like it. wasn't the type of environment that i was hoping for. a lot of things contributed to it so can't really point out specific things. bottom line: i'm not opposed to going back, probably not for the same thing but if something lines up i'll definitely go after it
dropped out college makes u take uneccesary classes
Thank you so much for this because I am currently in undergrad for cyber security and I’ve been conflicted if I needed the certifications on top of my degree. From my understand it’s that they are one in the same yea? Or do you think that even after completing my degree I should still pursue the certifications?
did you find the answer to this question?
Is cybersecurity more on the IT sode or computer science side?
hello sir I am 19 yrs old I am in commerce field after some month in commerce, I started i completed all my course like ceh ,chfi, ecsa , currently, I am doing lpt-licensed-penetration-tester and advanced l-penetration-tester by ec council is it good and value in society I am afraid bcuz i am commerce guy will my value in this field I have done n+, ciscp - certification information security consultancy, professional so it like can u give some advice how i start my bug bounty
what things should i learn more to goo to red team
Which college dgree you are doing
He said Cyber Security
there is a 2 year cyber security plan/course im thinking about taking it will get me an Associates in cyber security but it seems like it is all online. Are online classes any good? I never tried online classes. Will i learn? What should i expect and should i spend money on it? ty
How was it
@@rkb3991 Hey, i decided to study c++ and entered a program for a bachelors in computer science instead. and its going great. a lot to learn and im not even at the half of it.
@@Destroymaster100 how is c++
@@Destroymaster100 hey man I wanted to know did you have to take other classes or are you just focusing on coding ?
Which University from you?
Southeast Missouri State University!
Actually, I also a computer science student i was thinking i want to do ms in cybersecurity is it good for in future can i get a job
@@collinsinfosec which university did u actually wished to study at??
What is the name of your back bag?
Because my big bag has some new shoe with big things
Wenger Synergy Backpack, Gray (GA-7305-14F00)! Copied right from Amazon.
@@collinsinfosec thanks bro
Congrats Collins!
great , I like your video informative.
Hey Grant, I am a current student at John A. Logan pursing a major in cyber security & computer forensics. I plan to transfer over to SEMO for my bachelors degree in cyber security. Hearing out from many people I’ve heard that certifications are absolutely necessary in this field to get a job, but I personally wanted to ask you that based on the video if someone just gets a degree in cyber security and no certifications, do they still get good job opportunities?
How did ya score?
Very close to failing haha! 771
Nice! All good though man, that thing was hard and a pass is a pass. I recently passed with a 775 so basically got the same lol
Congrats guys
That is a small bed.
What's your view on C|EH ?
I would recommend the OSCP over the CEH. The CEH, at least from the United States perspective, holds less value as the answers are "online" (Don't quote me on that - but they are more memorization-base). Whereas the OSCP is all about hands-on. I would recommend the OSCP over the CEH any day. If you already have the CEH, then that's great, but consider other options before the CEH.
I recently passed my CEH certification. It was not easy it was 125 questions. It will teach you the basics of hacking. I had a really fun time learning it. I learned a lot by doing hands on training with my kali linux virtualbox.
ysg 804 bro , do you actually have to just pass the test? Or it will differ if you answer 70 right questions and another one answered 80 an such things?
I can wait my college holidays for Easter
Why is that?
Hi I am your fan from Asia. I am still learning English. Maybe you have presented in this video, but I didn't get the message. my question is that could a person work as an engineer especially cybersecurity without a CD college degree?
It's cs not CD
I am currently in grade 12 trying to get to CS at university. What can I do after a bachelors/masters to become an cybersecurity expert/ethical hacker?
iTechGaming I highly recommend you not to go for a college degree, instead you could like do a full year of programming, 2nd full year of Networking, 3rd of the Security specifics and 4th of the actual in depth specific niche you’d like to pursue in CyberSec like Network or Web Or AppSec and trust me by the end, you’d be UNSTOPPABLE. Opt for a college Degree and there goes the 4 years doing just the basics or everything!
@@satyamgothi5090 can you elaborate more on this?
@@satyamgothi5090 Hi,
Can you elaborate more..
I am in also 12 grade.
Can you guide me?
De Boo Da
Hello bro, why you use the windows and why not to use kali linux for security??
You couldn’t see it but he’s running his Linux OS in virtual box
He is dumb bro :(
Asmr grant edition
2:45
Get all of that for free in the Army hooah
Army keeps your certs
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😂It's going on the "end of the year cringe compilation" stay tuned