@@ContractHacker Do you think getting a Cyber Security Specialist certificate is good? My college offers it. I was thinking of getting into IT work 1st and get more experience with computers. I wasn't exposed to computers until I was reaching my junior to senior year of high school.
@@ContractHacker Hi. Can you make a video for obtaining certificates for one year? And what are the qualifications to enroll on a certification class? Like, does it require a Bachelors Degree? Or I can enroll directly to certification classes? I am really interested about cyber security and someday I want to be a cyber security engineer. I don’t know where to start. There’s a course in our country (Philippines) where they offer BS in Cyber Security for four years, but I was confused when you started talking about the one year certification. Can you tell me or us more about the certifications and how to obtain one? And qualifications as well. Thank you.
Your camera is so good and the fact you look straight into the camera without blinking.... several times I’m thinking if I’m watching an AI or human talk 😂
Congrats on the degree! Majoring for a BS in Cybersecurity, too. Yes, the benefits of college is the networking and learning the fundamentals that will help me on my certifications. Cheers!
@@ankitbasnet837 idk about other counteries, but it's probably the same. In poland you need maths, because this is basically the subject they teach for first year, you probably need a really basic science knowledge
Boiled down, certifications give a measure of how well you know how the sausage is made at the powershell, config t, or sudo level. A bachelors gives you some insight into the management of the resources under your purview. A master's gives you a much broader scope of how IT fits into the success of the business overall, specifically the value of IT as a profit center and revenue generator, maybe even a leader in their critical infrastructure sector. It is the transition from the IT get it done folks to senior management and articulating the justification for IT budgets for the resources to have the super-smart IT folks, software, etc
My counselor uses this saying when describing Cyber Security degrees. "Your knowledge will be a mile long but only an inch deep." You tend to learn about a lot of things but you aren't exactly proficient at any of those things. So I would agree that once you find the direction you want to go that you start working on certifications.
Hi, I am just starting to do my research about cyber security and I agree with you. I would like to start on obtaining certifications. However, I would like to know how? and if that requires me to have a bachelor's degree if I am going to pursue one year of certification? Any insights or ideas will be highly appreciated. Thank you.
@@ej-ns3ve i am in the same boat as you,trying to find an online associates degree for cyber security but i also hear alot about certificates etc,i get a bit confused and dont know where to start in the IT field,i am really interested in cyber security and i heard system adminstrator is also a good path to take.
@@SolidGeddoe if you would like, we can join forces together to figure it out. I am really into cyber security field. Maybe we can help each other figure it out. Two minds are better than one. 😀 Please let me know if you’re interested.
@@ej-ns3ve Not sure what state youre in but i was looking around online and a counselor in california told me about a college called Rio Hondo college,he said theres alot of programs and associates degree in IT cyber security that can be completed online,i might enroll into that college.
College route point #3 is where I’m slacking with self study route. Starting from scratch learning the sections to build a study book, but networking is key. PBS Crash Course - Computer Science & intellectual property are awesome with great visuals to learn basics. Ted talk is great to pick up lingo and new Key Words as well as a personable responses. (Great picture and audio quality, Video point structure 💯 straight to the points👍🏼)
Great video. I am currently in a college with a 4.0 GPA, just got my Security +, still planning to attain my Network + and A+ as a personal goal. The Cert I will attain after these is the CCNA and onward to the OSCP. I personally think the more knowledgeable to networking you become the easier Cybersecurity becomes as identifying what is typical and non typical activity traversing a network becomes more second nature. I know this is not the only aspect however, I felt it is a position that will provide some of the most useful experience fresh out of college going into a cyber security role.
@@elchinmammadov624 The security+ is higher in the tier system of CompTIA, however many employers view the credentials differently. A+ shows competency in Hardware & Software, Security + shows competency regarding basic security concepts such as the CIA Triad, or the Encryption Algorithms. If you were to be an employer looking for someone to maintain servers etc. you would most likely desire an A+ over a Security+. If you are an organization maintaining data for companies through cloud services, you would be more likely to want someone with Security+ and either Net+/A. The government is big regarding the Security + as it is attached as a requirement for clearance jobs.
@@darnellg8599 your getting the certs while attending school? I start my cybersecurity degree in sept as a junior. Should I try and bang out these certs after a few semesters?
@@TeShady I have tackled 3 certifications now. I got my CompTIA Network +, CompTIA Security +, and my CCNA. My security plus got me a contract job working for the government making good money. I would highly recommend you studying for a certification while in school. Remember though, each cert correlates to different roles in IT. Make sure to stack certs wisely. I would recommend personally starting at Security + as it is the cert that leads to work most immediately of the entry level certifications with CompTIA.
@@omairtech6711 You are missing the right literature. If you need help with anything you cant just ask a prof or phd. You have no other students you can work with. I mean if I would mention all reasons I could write an acedemic work about it because the list is so long
Self studying is a skill, for real. Some people need deadlines and a "higher authority" to continue chasing technical skills, similar to learning how to play instruments.
Hey Colin, I really love your knowledge on the industry. I chose to go back to college and work on my Associate Degree in Cybersecurity while obtaining my certifications as well. That my University offers to Cybersecurity students to take and pass. Then do some internship closer to my graduation date. After I graduate I was planning on working in the industry. Then go back to school to get my Bachelor's degree a few months after I graduate. The reason for that being is I want to work for the government and I have to have a 4 year degree. Also I feel like with my Associate degree and certifications I will get paid more starting off at entry level.
Good choice this is what I did, Paid nothing for my associates and got a job, and went back to get my bachelor's while having already certifications and getting the job experience. Finished and was able to get many job offers.
@@jeffersoncruz59 I’m trying to find resources on like videos on whether the CC route is worth it. Besides it being less expensive, I want to make sure its a good choice. Just fyi I don’t really have much of a background in IT.
Just take the easiest Computer Science related degree you can get and focus on doing CTF's. Even more interesting is to focus on AI because AI based anomoly detection is the future of blue team
I have been in the cyber security for almost 15 years , You can absolutely get into the field without a degree in cyber security but make sure you get a degree. A computer science degree with security certifications will get you into the career a couple years After you start. The one thing that most people don’t tell you is without a degree, they will pay you dramatically less than a person who has a degree even if you are better then them. The knowledge can be the same no matter if you go the certification route but the money will not
It is also very hard to get a cyber security job out of college Unless you get a job at a big company and even when I land in my first job, it took me 2 to 3 years to get into the cyber security field, even with a masters degree in cyber security
@@1jmorrison I think it depends, you can easily get a job as a SOC analyst if you work at a big company of gov org they will Prob pay some certs for you
Absolutely great I am software engineer. I taught myself two years ago. Right now, I teaching cyber security for fun beside my full time job as software engineer Thanks Your video is amazing
I love how he talked about the pros and cons first and then related it to his own experience. Most people will just tell us what they go through and not explain both ends of the spectrum.
I really like this channel! Small Tips: 1- Add a master volume control, so that your voice's volume will be consistent for the whole video. 2- Make the video transitions bit smoother. its a little bit of work but once you get it it will be fast easy after a couple of videos. Good luck buddy! Keep up the good work!
How come you think you will regret it ? I thought with computer science / cyber security etc and those degrees in the IT field you can make a lot financially ?
I believe cyber security employers would want candidates to have a degree in the near future. The same thing happened with the programming job title. Back then you could have gotten a job just with certificates and proof of knowledge. Now it's very difficult to get into programming without a computer science degree.
I really want to do a day in the life style.. Unfortunately I have to respect the privacy of my employer and our clients. I still do want to share some basic information of what I do as a consultant on a daily basis, but I will need to find a better way to present that info while respecting my employer.
Thank you so much for the information. I'm considering taking a master's degree in this field, it's just 1 year so I think there is not much loss (except maybe money).
@TH-cam Deleted my Other Account for Mean Comments yeah I've already said that. And bit scared from your name for my comment :/ (See it in all reply comments of that comment)
I really appreciate this video and the time you gave to make it. I’m thinking for my children who are getting a computer engineering degree to get a certificate to go with it. Our UNiversity offers it but our community college offers stuff super cheap
You don't wanna do Comp Sci. It has a lot of math. It is very stressful. You learn how computers work inside and out, problem-solving, programming. I was lowkey depressed for that 1 year. Unless you don't mind the challenges of math and other theory-based classes. That's why I switched back to CyberSecurity.
@@amalcandraw depends on the schools program that you attend but Cybersecurity majors doesn’t require high levels of math like computer science majors do
I'm a computer science student with an interest in Cyber Security. I think what I'm going to do is to put security in practice with my current software dev activities. Example I do django apps and I should practice defensive programming. This is the only path i know in my case.
You would not have had this opportunity at all if you hadn’t went to pen state to begin with. Especially since penstate actually makes sure that students have an internship before they graduate. Career fairs at penstate are really good as well, a lot of fortune 100 representatives usually go there. If you actually look at the stats of EY employees, you’ll notice that quite a lot of them are penstate grads.
Hey Aman, thanks for your comment. I am well aware of Penn State's reputation and that is a major factor why I chose to go there! As I said in the video, I'm very thankful I graduated from there. I do agree that this opens a lot of doors but I would have to disagree that I would not have had the opportunity at all if I hadn't went there. I am a firm believer that if you work hard enough no doors are closed. That said, it is absolutely a more difficult route. I don't want to come across as if I am saying that I "didn't need college" or anything like that. In this video I was attempting to present both sides and basically tell people that college isn't the only option.
I went to psu for security and risk analysis, dropped out because I was completely failing info science and technology...I was drinking a lot. Definitely didn’t help. That was 7 years ago. I’m 31 years old now, ready to go back and major in cyber security. I don’t feel confident but I no longer party. Married with 3 kids now
you got this man, I used to drink a ton and I'm currently an electrician. But I haven't drank in almost two years now and want to pursue a different career. And cyber security looks to be it, good luck on your future!
Great video. The idea of the video is awesome. Only complaint, which was a deal breaker for me, is the audio quality. When there is a pause in speech the next sentence starts out screaming at me, and for this reason, I could only watch half the video. I would try more of your content but it's scary how loud it gets lol
Hey Colin, this video gives me a good insight of what's better for me. I've always wanted to be a Cyber Security Expert/ a Penetration Tester and and wanted to pursue CybSec degree in a University. I had a short amount of time deciding which Uni I should attend, and I chose Arizona State University Computer Science (Cyber Security) Degree Program. I've tried discovering lots of universities, but I had a hard time choosing one that focuses more in Cyber Security, rather than Computer Science. Long story short, I chose the ASU's Comp Sci (CyberSec), and I'm now struggling with a lot of Math and Comp Sci lessons that I don't think necessary. Yes, I know that Cyber Security also needs programming, but I feel like this degree is 90% on Computer Science, and as I read the road map, I've realized that I will get the Cyber Sec Part at the end of the program, they don't even specify what classes are on it, I'm starting to think that this is a course regarding creating a secure environment with programming, rather than penetration testing. I'm kind struggling a lot, because they teach a lot of programming stuffs that I can't understand (Im currently at Java 2 -- GUI and OOP). I hope I can still get the job I want as a Penetration Tester.
Hi, I understand what you going through but trust me.... it’s all for the better. All that math and comp science BS will come in handy when you land a job. Just hang in there and thug it through !
After watching these types of videos I have come to the conclusion that I will be doing both. I understand that I am not a self study person I need the traditional school route. I prefer to go to college and get my certifications on the side.
That's what I am doing. My college offers certs prep classes too. It is towards the end of my degree but they are only two credit classes. I think I have the choice to choose between two of them. I am thinking security + and one more. Security + was based on recommendation.
At 18 you are probably not mature enough to be trusted with cyber security. Even at 19. In college you learn to be an adult which includes working with others who ARE NOT in any computer science field. Also, having exposure to things like art, music, theater, literature and other humanities helps you be a more well rounded person. I've worked my whole life in computers but my college degree was not in science. I am NEVER bored, and I'm an active member of my community. Yes, I've taken computer courses at my local community college (including security ones) but my art history classes make going to Museums and Galleries more fun.
I know for sure that location also matters, for instance the DMV (DC Maryland Virginia), an area that has tons of tech, cyber, federal companies. Trying to break into the security world in this area without a degree is pretty challenging because of the competition.
there's also cybersecurity boot programs that have a duration of 1 year or less were you meet various professors and get to gain connections with people in the field for a fraction of the price and time as compared to getting a bachelors degree in the field
Thanks for the video, great info. I never finished college & am considering getting a degree on this major. However, I am considering going the certificate route. Can you maybe do a video or provide a list of certifications you’d recommend to get done?
I would recommend starting with the network+ and the security+. These will establish a strong foundation and will set you up for more advanced certifications later on. After those two you will need to consider what career path you want so you can choose the most specific cert for that area. I have a whole area devoted to certifications on my blog! I recently just wrote a guide on the 7 best beginner certifications that you will find helpful! cybercareerschool.com/category/blogs/certifications/
Could have used a breakdown of the WGU method and comparing it to a traditional university program. With WGU you can get the certs while you work entry level, then transfer them in as credit toward your degree. You might get your BA cyber in a year depending on what you transfer in, and for less than 10k.
I am taking 3rd year diploma from college in Business Information System. My focus is on Info Sec, so I am gonna approach the non-traditional way. Hope I can get there soon.
@@KingKongHitDaBong It's BSc comes under computer science degree. As I am studying it part time, it looks like you work with both programming and business mixed. So it's helpful.
I am embarking into Cybersecurity after 15 years of owning my own business. I’m in an Introduction to Cybersecurity course at NC State University which leads into a full 10 month program. As an older person I appreciate your take on degree vs. no degree. I hear it’s possible to make it in this industry with a good solid foundation of knowledge and a couple important certifications. Thanks for putting out these You Tube videos. I’ve enjoyed following you.
@@AmaraSoGolden Hi Thanks for asking. I loved the introductory course! Now I am trying to coordinate my schedule so I can have plenty of time to focus on the full program (10 months). I am also researching what position really appeals to me, so I can start working towards it, rather than trying to do it all and not have a focus. Where are you in this Cybersecurity industry?
@Janice Williams thanks for replying. I’m actually looking at the same 10 month program at NC. I have to previous I.T experience so I’m looking to take the December intro course. Do you know anyone who went the boot camp route and found a job. I don’t see many people speak about that.
@@AmaraSoGolden oh I am so excited for you. You will do great since you have IT experience. I too asked that question of who got work after the program and they only sited the same example in the literature about one man who had absolutely no experience but after hard work through the program now works as head of the department in a medical institution (not sure if it’s a hospital or not) I would be very curious what they tell you when you ask that question. Let me know.
@Janice Williams right cause that’s the deciding factor for me. But I just spoke to admission like a minute ago and registered for it. I hope I gain a lot from it.
Third option, a lot of people miss Its the 2 year associates degrees at community colleges. Its a mix of the 2 you mentioned. Community college associates IT degrees (There is some I've seen that are like systems administrator+ cyber security etc community colleges usually have multiple IT degree paths including ones that transfer over to university level IT degee) are honestly probably the best way to get into IT, bachelors is I'd say the second best, self study certs isn't a good way to go anymore... maybe 5-10 years ago it was, but it's not now. Community college, many of those IT degrees there will set you up with the ability to get 6-8 certs in the 2 years you'll be there, ntm in your final year a lot of them have a co-op/internship class that will count as like 3 credits plus you get paid and work experience before you graduate 2 birds with one stone, where they literally set you up with an internship, make sure the community college has one of those classes if it doesn't, meh. So 2 year community college, 6-8 certs, final year Co-op/internship...its a great way to get into the industry imo. I'm gonna be honest, i don't think IT at the bachelor's level is worth it for most people, if you are gonna go technology bachelor's degree, I'd say CS, EE, or Computer Engineering. I really don't see IT, cyber security, information technology, Computer information systems, degrees at the bachelor's of level are worth as much as CS, CPE, or EE.
Just in general glad you mentioned it, general education courses are so dumb and a huge time waster , it’s just a way for them to pump out more money out of you , like honestly without gen electives that’s like a good 1.5 + years shaved off whatever course you are taking or more if you didn’t get the credit . Only a select view doe make sense but still has nothing to do with what your taking🤦🏽♂️🙄
Hey Colin ! I’m really deciding on doing cyber security or computer science as a whole but feel more interested in cyber security ! Any thoughts on this path ? I don’t mind doing cyber security As a job ! Just curious with job opportunities within have a computer science degree
Hey Kevin, when deciding between comp sci and cyber security I would say the biggest factor is the maturity and reputation of the cyber security program you are looking at. If it is a very reputable cyber security program that will go a long way! I would just advise you to understand the security program at the school before committing to it. I have a in-depth blog post comparing the two degrees! cybercareerschool.com/cyber-security-vs-computer-science-degree/ Many schools have a "cyber security program" but it will really just be a mix between multiple degree programs within their Information Technology College. If you are really into the technical aspects of the field you cannot go wrong with a comp sci degree, this will open many doors for you and allow you to learn harder cyber security concepts later on. If you are considering this route I must advise you that this will be much more work, you need to make sure that you are getting involved with security projects and clubs on the side. Hopefully this helps! It's a very hard choice between the two but it really comes down to your specific interests and path!
Great vlog! Really helped me understand the importance of experience and skills over degree. I have recently taken up a CEH course at EC Council University out of passion and interest but now I am clueless on what course to take next to have a career in cyber security. Could you help me decode this? Thanks!
You have to do your own due diligence. Research, research, research. Talk to pros who are in the field you want to be a part of. Get the real dirt. Then make your own decision. And own it.
Going to college for a 4 years degree on IT is a waste of time and money, it’s easier to go for certificates so you’ll learn specific skills that you need, abs not filler classes that college ask you to take you to get your money. Cybersecurity is a hot field right now and you’ll get a job super easy.
I'm prior military and work for an IT company in their Cyber Security dept. Cyber Security is such a broad field. The more I look it seems like a lot of people are trying to switch careers and work in Cyber because of the nice salaries. I get it and understand but I would advise people to follow their real interests because Cyber isn't necessarily fast paced and exciting all the time. The other thing to note, to me it isn't all that important to rush out and get a Cyber Security degree. In my department we've had web developers, coders, database experts. A large number of people in my dept don't have college degrees, and if they have a degree it isn't Cyber or even IT related (But they do have experience in the field). Degrees are more necessary for government jobs but not necessarily for contracting jobs with private sector companies. Even with government jobs I think more importance is placed on showing the completion of higher level education than the actual major. We have the requirement to have particular certifications due to supporting certain contracts. Their is a manager in my company who has about 5 managers under him. His degrees are not even IT related and some of the managers under him have no degree at all.
Are you familiar with the Vet Tec Program through the VA for disabled veterans? I hate not working full time as a DV and really want to get into something that I can do physically. I was military intelligence in the Army and held a TSsci clearance. You think it would be worth taking their courses through Intellectual Point. I can't seem to find any info on the program other than their own propaganda.
Thoughts on the military route? Currently I'm getting a certificate from a bootcamp backed by my local uni (UCF), and after that I'm planning on going full time 4 years in the military, specifically for cyber security. Is this a viable option to get 4 years of industry experience, and how would it look on my job resume?
hell yes do it, because realistically no company is going to hire you just based off of you having certificates/ a bachelor's. If you go in and serve for four years while applying your knowledge in cybersecurity, your chances of getting hired by a reputable company increase tremendously. You must go through background checks and such to work for these companies, they have to trust you, military will look excellent on your resume, wishing you luck
@hawks2025 My plan as of right now is: during winter break, learn as much as I can about network, security, and how to ethically hack and code on Python. Then go to the Air Force recruiter, take the ASVAB and score high enough for Cyber Security (around that field). Then, hope that I get the job. Were about to go to war with China, pretty sure the military would like more bodies in cyber security.
I really like your stand, very neutral. It may come out as rude but for some reason you start explaining something and in the middle you start adding points to your speech with a different tone so my attention goes there. But please don't take it as plain insult, I really liked your video. Cheers!
Hey Colin I got a question im just starting out I love your video this really was eye opening and helped me walk away with a good perspective. Would you recommend getting a computer science degree with a concentration in cybersecurity? Im a father of two and im restarting my life and my education in a manner of speaking. I want to go into this industry the right way. But I dont know how or where to start off. Im gonna go to school but I want to make sure I don't waist my own time in the process.
Hi Colin, thanks for this insightful video. Could I get your perspective on doing a Masters in Cyber Security? I studied an unrelated degree (accountancy) and am thinking of spending 2 years to do part-time masters (not as long as a bachelor's). I am already in the cyber security industry at the entry level. Would I be better off going for the certification route? Thanks in advance! Also, I'm thinking of doing either CRISC or CISM. Are you able to recommend which to do first?
more than 90 percent of employers looking for people who hold a bachelor degree in the relevant field. Especially in the UK. now I do not know the situ in the US but I reckon a bachelors degree open up much more opp.
Coming from hvac and construction, covid lung got me so I'm looking for a career that doesn't have as much wear and tear on my body, I Love hvac but cybersecurity seems to be calling my name, service and repairs while learning this will be interesting
Would you recommend majoring in a computer science degree or cyber security degree? I don’t want to be limited to only Cyber security with the degree but at the same time it’s also the career I’m most interested in?
Interesting take, definitely found this video to be helpful. Recently, through my community college I was accepted into an IT apprenticeship at a bank. It includes free tuition for the rest of my associates degree. There's the promise of a job offer after the completion of the apprenticeship and I am considering going for my bachelors. The time commitment is huge. I've seen a lot of IT people complete their degrees mid career....just to check that box. That's I might do. Cool video, thanks!
Colin, if I already have a BS in National Security should I get a second Bachelors degree in Cyber or just get my certifications only at SANS institute? TIA!
You have a degree. That box is checked. Get your certs and make some money. Don't waste money on another degree. Alot of employers just want to see that you have one.
Currently going to school for information systems. Was thinking of continuing that while getting cyber security certs on the side. Do you think that is a decent way to go? I worry about limiting myself by just getting a cyber security degree.
Well as a Finn, the education is free.. So the cost is only if I need to apply study leave from work. And in Finland you can get at least 2 years of study leave in every 5 years time. I'm now studying Bachelor's degree and working 60% of the time.
i'm considering going this route to, i'm currently a federal employee so hope that helps, I also have an associates in Computer Information Tech that I hope to transfer a few credits toward the B.S. I also live in Augusta, GA which is said to be the Cybersecurity capital of the world so hope that also gives me an advantage, now my hurdles are my budget and time since I work full time living pay check to pay check.
I’m 39 and planning on doing an online school next year. The college I’m looking at has a BS in information technology with a minor in cyber security. They also have a BS in cyber security. I don’t know which route I should go with.
Information technology is a broader subject which cybersecurity is under. If I were you, I'll go with the former because it will let you be well grounded on a wider range of topics in the IT industry and will also prepare you for a wider range of opportunities.
Self Study here from genesis transitioned through various roles eventually into Info Sec (Enjoyed the journey, still have plenty to learn. easily spend a life time continuing to learn),... still went the college route so not having a degree doesn't preclude me from moving into leadership positions down the road.
I have a bachelors in business and I’m enrolled in a cyber security bachelors program as a transfer student. They’re letting me apply all my gen ed credits from my first degree so I only have to take the degree specific courses. This will allow me to get a second bachelors in Cybersecurity in only about 3 semesters. I’d recommend this to anyone with a completed undergrad.
Had to skip the money portion cuz I’m gettin that TA!!! But overall great video, I think I will start with getting as associates in IT before fully committing to the cyber security route. Who knows I may develop a love for coding. But I’m more interested in setting up the networks, running the lines, and getting the equipment up and running and maintaining said equipment.
You're idea is spot on. That is exactly what my counselor told me. If you want to get your feet wet, get an IT associates. From there he sais to then go for a bachelors in the another field, or do the same thing.
@@jonitalia5596 IT associates seems to broad is that a good degree? I get this vibe that a CS degree is superior and the rest aren't as good especially when it comes to the salary range.
I agree with the uselessness of Geology and such in degrees. Each state has a board that tries to decide what will make us all "well-rounded" after we graduate. My solution is to look into Associate degrees. You learn the nuts and bolts of a degree subject without all the fluff classes. You are in and out with a degree, which is more useful without the 3rd- and 4th-year management classes. If you want to be a manager, then transfer that degree to a 4-year program.
Thanks for the video. The degree I am perusing right now is in Computer Information Systems. My school does offer a specific Cybersecurity degree, but the CIS degree here offers four concentrations, and Cybersecurity is one of them. I’m really considering on doing it.
Want more? Check out an educational blog I'm currently building over at cybercareerschool.com/blog/
thanks bro
Thanks for checking out the video!
Which camera is used
@@ContractHacker Do you think getting a Cyber Security Specialist certificate is good? My college offers it. I was thinking of getting into IT work 1st and get more experience with computers. I wasn't exposed to computers until I was reaching my junior to senior year of high school.
@@ContractHacker Hi. Can you make a video for obtaining certificates for one year? And what are the qualifications to enroll on a certification class? Like, does it require a Bachelors Degree? Or I can enroll directly to certification classes? I am really interested about cyber security and someday I want to be a cyber security engineer. I don’t know where to start. There’s a course in our country (Philippines) where they offer BS in Cyber Security for four years, but I was confused when you started talking about the one year certification. Can you tell me or us more about the certifications and how to obtain one? And qualifications as well.
Thank you.
Love how this guy doesnt give us a whole bunch of nonsense at the beginning THANK YOU
Curiously. Almost all videos I skip the first 4 minutes
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Gd I know what you mean as there's a lot of click baiters out there that just want your veiws
Your camera is so good and the fact you look straight into the camera without blinking.... several times I’m thinking if I’m watching an AI or human talk 😂
Hahahaha
AI has really improved
Have you seen the ceo of Bitcoin speak in an interview? 😂😂
Most ethical hackers don't blink when they're talking 😂
Dude's head is moving but his eyes arent.. staring straight into my soul
Congrats on the degree! Majoring for a BS in Cybersecurity, too. Yes, the benefits of college is the networking and learning the fundamentals that will help me on my certifications. Cheers!
What year are you in?
What if you have no previous computer skills ? Plz help
Does cyber security require science background?
@@ankitbasnet837 idk about other counteries, but it's probably the same.
In poland you need maths, because this is basically the subject they teach for first year, you probably need a really basic science knowledge
could you share your experience? Was it worth getting a degree and is it paying off
Boiled down, certifications give a measure of how well you know how the sausage is made at the powershell, config t, or sudo level. A bachelors gives you some insight into the management of the resources under your purview. A master's gives you a much broader scope of how IT fits into the success of the business overall, specifically the value of IT as a profit center and revenue generator, maybe even a leader in their critical infrastructure sector. It is the transition from the IT get it done folks to senior management and articulating the justification for IT budgets for the resources to have the super-smart IT folks, software, etc
My counselor uses this saying when describing Cyber Security degrees. "Your knowledge will be a mile long but only an inch deep." You tend to learn about a lot of things but you aren't exactly proficient at any of those things. So I would agree that once you find the direction you want to go that you start working on certifications.
Hi, I am just starting to do my research about cyber security and I agree with you. I would like to start on obtaining certifications. However, I would like to know how? and if that requires me to have a bachelor's degree if I am going to pursue one year of certification? Any insights or ideas will be highly appreciated. Thank you.
@@ej-ns3ve i am in the same boat as you,trying to find an online associates degree for cyber security but i also hear alot about certificates etc,i get a bit confused and dont know where to start in the IT field,i am really interested in cyber security and i heard system adminstrator is also a good path to take.
@@SolidGeddoe if you would like, we can join forces together to figure it out. I am really into cyber security field. Maybe we can help each other figure it out. Two minds are better than one. 😀 Please let me know if you’re interested.
@@ej-ns3ve Not sure what state youre in but i was looking around online and a counselor in california told me about a college called Rio Hondo college,he said theres alot of programs and associates degree in IT cyber security that can be completed online,i might enroll into that college.
@@SolidGeddoe Thanks for the info. I’ll look into it.
As soon as I saw you didn't have an introduction slide with a jingle I liked the video.
College route point #3 is where I’m slacking with self study route. Starting from scratch learning the sections to build a study book, but networking is key. PBS Crash Course - Computer Science & intellectual property are awesome with great visuals to learn basics. Ted talk is great to pick up lingo and new Key Words as well as a personable responses. (Great picture and audio quality, Video point structure 💯 straight to the points👍🏼)
I did computer science degree, you didnt miss out on anything. You could catch up in a year and learn the most during internships as well
Great video. I am currently in a college with a 4.0 GPA, just got my Security +, still planning to attain my Network + and A+ as a personal goal. The Cert I will attain after these is the CCNA and onward to the OSCP. I personally think the more knowledgeable to networking you become the easier Cybersecurity becomes as identifying what is typical and non typical activity traversing a network becomes more second nature. I know this is not the only aspect however, I felt it is a position that will provide some of the most useful experience fresh out of college going into a cyber security role.
why would you get A+ if you have Sec+?
@@elchinmammadov624 The security+ is higher in the tier system of CompTIA, however many employers view the credentials differently. A+ shows competency in Hardware & Software, Security + shows competency regarding basic security concepts such as the CIA Triad, or the Encryption Algorithms. If you were to be an employer looking for someone to maintain servers etc. you would most likely desire an A+ over a Security+. If you are an organization maintaining data for companies through cloud services, you would be more likely to want someone with Security+ and either Net+/A. The government is big regarding the Security + as it is attached as a requirement for clearance jobs.
Update: Got my Network+
@@darnellg8599 your getting the certs while attending school? I start my cybersecurity degree in sept as a junior. Should I try and bang out these certs after a few semesters?
@@TeShady I have tackled 3 certifications now. I got my CompTIA Network +, CompTIA Security +, and my CCNA. My security plus got me a contract job working for the government making good money. I would highly recommend you studying for a certification while in school. Remember though, each cert correlates to different roles in IT. Make sure to stack certs wisely. I would recommend personally starting at Security + as it is the cert that leads to work most immediately of the entry level certifications with CompTIA.
Self study is actually really hard to achieve.
I failed self study
It's really hard too indicate your own mistakes
Why precisely?
@@omairtech6711 You are missing the right literature. If you need help with anything you cant just ask a prof or phd. You have no other students you can work with. I mean if I would mention all reasons I could write an acedemic work about it because the list is so long
@CarCio Designs no one said it was impossible to be self taught, you are one of the fortunate ones that was able to learn yourself!
Self studying is a skill, for real. Some people need deadlines and a "higher authority" to continue chasing technical skills, similar to learning how to play instruments.
Hey Colin, I really love your knowledge on the industry. I chose to go back to college and work on my Associate Degree in Cybersecurity while obtaining my certifications as well. That my University offers to Cybersecurity students to take and pass. Then do some internship closer to my graduation date. After I graduate I was planning on working in the industry. Then go back to school to get my Bachelor's degree a few months after I graduate. The reason for that being is I want to work for the government and I have to have a 4 year degree. Also I feel like with my Associate degree and certifications I will get paid more starting off at entry level.
Good choice this is what I did, Paid nothing for my associates and got a job, and went back to get my bachelor's while having already certifications and getting the job experience. Finished and was able to get many job offers.
@@jeffersoncruz59 I’m trying to find resources on like videos on whether the CC route is worth it. Besides it being less expensive, I want to make sure its a good choice. Just fyi I don’t really have much of a background in IT.
@Jay Gaming that’s what I want to do as well but i don’t know if a associates in cyber security will really put me out there
any updates?
Im starting a BS in cyber security and feel like computer science would be better, and watching this video backed it up 100%
At the end of the day, both of these paths will get you to a great career. Pursue whichever is most interesting for you!
Just take the easiest Computer Science related degree you can get and focus on doing CTF's. Even more interesting is to focus on AI because AI based anomoly detection is the future of blue team
I have been in the cyber security for almost 15 years , You can absolutely get into the field without a degree in cyber security but make sure you get a degree. A computer science degree with security certifications will get you into the career a couple years After you start. The one thing that most people don’t tell you is without a degree, they will pay you dramatically less than a person who has a degree even if you are better then them.
The knowledge can be the same no matter if you go the certification route but the money will not
It is also very hard to get a cyber security job out of college Unless you get a job at a big company and even when I land in my first job, it took me 2 to 3 years to get into the cyber security field, even with a masters degree in cyber security
@@1jmorrison I think it depends, you can easily get a job as a SOC analyst if you work at a big company of gov org they will Prob pay some certs for you
Very helpful! Thanks Colin. I like that you're a real person, with regular zits and a pink rock lamp.
I'm barely going to enroll into college and this helped me find the right path I wanted. Thank you!
Absolutely great
I am software engineer.
I taught myself two years ago.
Right now, I teaching cyber security for fun beside my full time job as software engineer
Thanks
Your video is amazing
I love how he talked about the pros and cons first and then related it to his own experience. Most people will just tell us what they go through and not explain both ends of the spectrum.
Great information here. I chose the college route and will definitely move forward quickly with getting my certs as well.
I love when the start of a section blasts my eardrums out
I really like this channel! Small Tips:
1- Add a master volume control, so that your voice's volume will be consistent for the whole video.
2- Make the video transitions bit smoother. its a little bit of work but once you get it it will be fast easy after a couple of videos.
Good luck buddy! Keep up the good work!
Bachelors degree in CS with 0 experience and I’m still starting my masters in CS next month. I’m sure I’ll regret it later but I’m having fun learning
I think you're either too young or have rich parents.
@@qzqx3047 Every word you just said was wrong. Lol
@@jlgspaz13 why not get some work experience before you go for your grad school? That’s what I would do.
@@qzqx3047 because it's his life, not yours
How come you think you will regret it ? I thought with computer science / cyber security etc and those degrees in the IT field you can make a lot financially ?
Thanks Colin. This is actually helpful. I was in dilemma on choosing computer science vs cybersecurity.
Which one have you chosen?
Honestly the only video that really helped me thanks!
Thank you for the information and video, great job! Good luck in your current Indevors. 👍
I believe cyber security employers would want candidates to have a degree in the near future. The same thing happened with the programming job title. Back then you could have gotten a job just with certificates and proof of knowledge. Now it's very difficult to get into programming without a computer science degree.
Can you do a video of a day and life as a cyber security consultant
I really want to do a day in the life style.. Unfortunately I have to respect the privacy of my employer and our clients. I still do want to share some basic information of what I do as a consultant on a daily basis, but I will need to find a better way to present that info while respecting my employer.
@@ContractHacker please do so if you have time later on :)
@@ContractHacker please please if you can. thx
Thanks for the awesome vids dude!
Thank you so much for the information. I'm considering taking a master's degree in this field, it's just 1 year so I think there is not much loss (except maybe money).
do you mind me asking where? I'm looking into getting a masters too but the school I'm looking ats program is 2 years
If your in California, csusb has a really good program and offers scholarships for cyber security students.. especially at masters level
@@dennisthemenice8476 i just got accepted into the cyber security masters program. It’s nice to know it has a reputation lol
Awesome camera :)
Fucking microphone
Which camera? :)
@TH-cam Deleted my Other Account for Mean Comments yeah I've already said that. And bit scared from your name for my comment :/
(See it in all reply comments of that comment)
This helps me think about it from a different pov! Thankyou soo much, greetings from India!
I really appreciate this video and the time you gave to make it. I’m thinking for my children who are getting a computer engineering degree to get a certificate to go with it. Our UNiversity offers it but our community college offers stuff super cheap
You don't wanna do Comp Sci. It has a lot of math. It is very stressful. You learn how computers work inside and out, problem-solving, programming. I was lowkey depressed for that 1 year. Unless you don't mind the challenges of math and other theory-based classes. That's why I switched back to CyberSecurity.
feel you
Is there math in cybersecurity?
@@amalcandraw depends on the schools program that you attend but Cybersecurity majors doesn’t require high levels of math like computer science majors do
I'm a computer science student with an interest in Cyber Security. I think what I'm going to do is to put security in practice with my current software dev activities. Example I do django apps and I should practice defensive programming. This is the only path i know in my case.
Being in a class room and hearing a professor rattle off acronym’s 😂😂 I felt that pain
You would not have had this opportunity at all if you hadn’t went to pen state to begin with. Especially since penstate actually makes sure that students have an internship before they graduate. Career fairs at penstate are really good as well, a lot of fortune 100 representatives usually go there. If you actually look at the stats of EY employees, you’ll notice that quite a lot of them are penstate grads.
Tbh big 4 are probably the biggest employer of penstate grads for their Technology Advisory departments.
Hey Aman, thanks for your comment. I am well aware of Penn State's reputation and that is a major factor why I chose to go there! As I said in the video, I'm very thankful I graduated from there. I do agree that this opens a lot of doors but I would have to disagree that I would not have had the opportunity at all if I hadn't went there. I am a firm believer that if you work hard enough no doors are closed. That said, it is absolutely a more difficult route.
I don't want to come across as if I am saying that I "didn't need college" or anything like that. In this video I was attempting to present both sides and basically tell people that college isn't the only option.
@@ContractHacker oh no!!! I’m sorry if I came off rude! Yes everyone can definitely get anywhere they want to just takes more hard work.
Happy for you. I am in the process of doing the same. Thanks for the motivation.
I went to psu for security and risk analysis, dropped out because I was completely failing info science and technology...I was drinking a lot. Definitely didn’t help. That was 7 years ago. I’m 31 years old now, ready to go back and major in cyber security. I don’t feel confident but I no longer party. Married with 3 kids now
you got this man, I used to drink a ton and I'm currently an electrician. But I haven't drank in almost two years now and want to pursue a different career. And cyber security looks to be it, good luck on your future!
You’re still very young, go for it
Great video. The idea of the video is awesome. Only complaint, which was a deal breaker for me, is the audio quality. When there is a pause in speech the next sentence starts out screaming at me, and for this reason, I could only watch half the video. I would try more of your content but it's scary how loud it gets lol
Hey Colin, this video gives me a good insight of what's better for me. I've always wanted to be a Cyber Security Expert/ a Penetration Tester and and wanted to pursue CybSec degree in a University. I had a short amount of time deciding which Uni I should attend, and I chose Arizona State University Computer Science (Cyber Security) Degree Program. I've tried discovering lots of universities, but I had a hard time choosing one that focuses more in Cyber Security, rather than Computer Science. Long story short, I chose the ASU's Comp Sci (CyberSec), and I'm now struggling with a lot of Math and Comp Sci lessons that I don't think necessary. Yes, I know that Cyber Security also needs programming, but I feel like this degree is 90% on Computer Science, and as I read the road map, I've realized that I will get the Cyber Sec Part at the end of the program, they don't even specify what classes are on it, I'm starting to think that this is a course regarding creating a secure environment with programming, rather than penetration testing. I'm kind struggling a lot, because they teach a lot of programming stuffs that I can't understand (Im currently at Java 2 -- GUI and OOP). I hope I can still get the job I want as a Penetration Tester.
Hi, I understand what you going through but trust me.... it’s all for the better. All that math and comp science BS will come in handy when you land a job. Just hang in there and thug it through !
Hello, if you see this can you talk about how things turned out? for better or worst after a year
After watching these types of videos I have come to the conclusion that I will be doing both. I understand that I am not a self study person I need the traditional school route. I prefer to go to college and get my certifications on the side.
That's what I am doing. My college offers certs prep classes too. It is towards the end of my degree but they are only two credit classes. I think I have the choice to choose between two of them. I am thinking security + and one more. Security + was based on recommendation.
At 18 you are probably not mature enough to be trusted with cyber security. Even at 19. In college you learn to be an adult which includes working with others who ARE NOT in any computer science field. Also, having exposure to things like art, music, theater, literature and other humanities helps you be a more well rounded person. I've worked my whole life in computers but my college degree was not in science. I am NEVER bored, and I'm an active member of my community. Yes, I've taken computer courses at my local community college (including security ones) but my art history classes make going to Museums and Galleries more fun.
I know for sure that location also matters, for instance the DMV (DC Maryland Virginia), an area that has tons of tech, cyber, federal companies. Trying to break into the security world in this area without a degree is pretty challenging because of the competition.
Military service is a good work around in areas like that
there's also cybersecurity boot programs that have a duration of 1 year or less were you meet various professors and get to gain connections with people in the field for a fraction of the price and time as compared to getting a bachelors degree in the field
How would you do that?
@@sebastianrios2076 look up universities in your area that carry the Cybersecurity program and ask about it
@@Nicolevalladaresd alr thanks man. I'll call a bunch of places and I'll prob just ask you if I have any other questions
@@sebastianrios2076 have you done it? And how use full are those boot camps/classes
Thanks for the video, great info. I never finished college & am considering getting a degree on this major. However, I am considering going the certificate route. Can you maybe do a video or provide a list of certifications you’d recommend to get done?
I would recommend starting with the network+ and the security+. These will establish a strong foundation and will set you up for more advanced certifications later on. After those two you will need to consider what career path you want so you can choose the most specific cert for that area.
I have a whole area devoted to certifications on my blog! I recently just wrote a guide on the 7 best beginner certifications that you will find helpful!
cybercareerschool.com/category/blogs/certifications/
Colin Kelly Thanks for responding!! Great, let me check those out!
@@rinavelli have you started?
@@MalumFashEntertainment nope. not yet. i’m currently in the process of moving. once i’m settled & get a new laptop, i will!
Great content Colin!
Could have used a breakdown of the WGU method and comparing it to a traditional university program. With WGU you can get the certs while you work entry level, then transfer them in as credit toward your degree. You might get your BA cyber in a year depending on what you transfer in, and for less than 10k.
What is the WGU/ WGU method?
@@taviowoods6272 Western governor University
"Rattling off acronyms," I feel you.
I am taking 3rd year diploma from college in Business Information System. My focus is on Info Sec, so I am gonna approach the non-traditional way. Hope I can get there soon.
what exactly is Business Information Systems? is it similar to management information systems, also is it more business or tech heavy?
@@KingKongHitDaBong It's BSc comes under computer science degree. As I am studying it part time, it looks like you work with both programming and business mixed. So it's helpful.
This is very important but having a college degree is prestigious too
No its not.....
@@drkdrive facts
I am embarking into Cybersecurity after 15 years of owning my own business. I’m in an Introduction to Cybersecurity course at NC State University which leads into a full 10 month program. As an older person I appreciate your take on degree vs. no degree. I hear it’s possible to make it in this industry with a good solid foundation of knowledge and a couple important certifications. Thanks for putting out these You Tube videos. I’ve enjoyed following you.
How did the introduction course go @janice?
@@AmaraSoGolden Hi Thanks for asking. I loved the introductory course! Now I am trying to coordinate my schedule so I can have plenty of time to focus on the full program (10 months). I am also researching what position really appeals to me, so I can start working towards it, rather than trying to do it all and not have a focus. Where are you in this Cybersecurity industry?
@Janice Williams thanks for replying. I’m actually looking at the same 10 month program at NC. I have to previous I.T experience so I’m looking to take the December intro course. Do you know anyone who went the boot camp route and found a job. I don’t see many people speak about that.
@@AmaraSoGolden oh I am so excited for you. You will do great since you have IT experience. I too asked that question of who got work after the program and they only sited the same example in the literature about one man who had absolutely no experience but after hard work through the program now works as head of the department in a medical institution (not sure if it’s a hospital or not) I would be very curious what they tell you when you ask that question. Let me know.
@Janice Williams right cause that’s the deciding factor for me. But I just spoke to admission like a minute ago and registered for it. I hope I gain a lot from it.
Third option, a lot of people miss Its the 2 year associates degrees at community colleges. Its a mix of the 2 you mentioned. Community college associates IT degrees (There is some I've seen that are like systems administrator+ cyber security etc community colleges usually have multiple IT degree paths including ones that transfer over to university level IT degee) are honestly probably the best way to get into IT, bachelors is I'd say the second best, self study certs isn't a good way to go anymore... maybe 5-10 years ago it was, but it's not now. Community college, many of those IT degrees there will set you up with the ability to get 6-8 certs in the 2 years you'll be there, ntm in your final year a lot of them have a co-op/internship class that will count as like 3 credits plus you get paid and work experience before you graduate 2 birds with one stone, where they literally set you up with an internship, make sure the community college has one of those classes if it doesn't, meh. So 2 year community college, 6-8 certs, final year Co-op/internship...its a great way to get into the industry imo. I'm gonna be honest, i don't think IT at the bachelor's level is worth it for most people, if you are gonna go technology bachelor's degree, I'd say CS, EE, or Computer Engineering. I really don't see IT, cyber security, information technology, Computer information systems, degrees at the bachelor's of level are worth as much as CS, CPE, or EE.
Great video currently going both routes getting certifications first then college to study computer science!
Just in general glad you mentioned it, general education courses are so dumb and a huge time waster , it’s just a way for them to pump out more money out of you , like honestly without gen electives that’s like a good 1.5 + years shaved off whatever course you are taking or more if you didn’t get the credit . Only a select view doe make sense but still has nothing to do with what your taking🤦🏽♂️🙄
Bad at acronyms too.. also feel the same toward the corps as you do college … I don’t regret it but wow what a wild ride … 3 yrs to go
Awesome video man!
Starting ComputerNetworking/Cybersecurity in an NJ college and I plan on transferring to Penn State!
That's what I thought that's y I went straight ahead in doing a CS degree
Thank man this really helps alot 👍💯
Thank you for this video
Hey Colin ! I’m really deciding on doing cyber security or computer science as a whole but feel more interested in cyber security ! Any thoughts on this path ? I don’t mind doing cyber security As a job ! Just curious with job opportunities within have a computer science degree
Hey Kevin, when deciding between comp sci and cyber security I would say the biggest factor is the maturity and reputation of the cyber security program you are looking at. If it is a very reputable cyber security program that will go a long way! I would just advise you to understand the security program at the school before committing to it.
I have a in-depth blog post comparing the two degrees! cybercareerschool.com/cyber-security-vs-computer-science-degree/
Many schools have a "cyber security program" but it will really just be a mix between multiple degree programs within their Information Technology College.
If you are really into the technical aspects of the field you cannot go wrong with a comp sci degree, this will open many doors for you and allow you to learn harder cyber security concepts later on. If you are considering this route I must advise you that this will be much more work, you need to make sure that you are getting involved with security projects and clubs on the side.
Hopefully this helps! It's a very hard choice between the two but it really comes down to your specific interests and path!
@@ContractHacker What do you think about UTSA’s cyber security program?
Currently about to get registered for an associate's degree in cyber security
I experienced this with programming. Great stuff👍🏼
Great vlog! Really helped me understand the importance of experience and skills over degree. I have recently taken up a CEH course at EC Council University out of passion and interest but now I am clueless on what course to take next to have a career in cyber security. Could you help me decode this? Thanks!
Invest in bootcamps
Ejpt cpent oscp
thanks for making this video. its really helpful
Hello Colin what are your thoughts in WGU cyber security degree ?
I just applied today I heard recommendations (western govern university)?
Loved this..1year is enough that's great
You have to do your own due diligence. Research, research, research. Talk to pros who are in the field you want to be a part of. Get the real dirt. Then make your own decision. And own it.
Going to college for a 4 years degree on IT is a waste of time and money, it’s easier to go for certificates so you’ll learn specific skills that you need, abs not filler classes that college ask you to take you to get your money.
Cybersecurity is a hot field right now and you’ll get a job super easy.
What about 2 year programs offered at community colleges?
I'm prior military and work for an IT company in their Cyber Security dept. Cyber Security is such a broad field. The more I look it seems like a lot of people are trying to switch careers and work in Cyber because of the nice salaries. I get it and understand but I would advise people to follow their real interests because Cyber isn't necessarily fast paced and exciting all the time. The other thing to note, to me it isn't all that important to rush out and get a Cyber Security degree. In my department we've had web developers, coders, database experts. A large number of people in my dept don't have college degrees, and if they have a degree it isn't Cyber or even IT related (But they do have experience in the field). Degrees are more necessary for government jobs but not necessarily for contracting jobs with private sector companies. Even with government jobs I think more importance is placed on showing the completion of higher level education than the actual major. We have the requirement to have particular certifications due to supporting certain contracts. Their is a manager in my company who has about 5 managers under him. His degrees are not even IT related and some of the managers under him have no degree at all.
Are you familiar with the Vet Tec Program through the VA for disabled veterans? I hate not working full time as a DV and really want to get into something that I can do physically. I was military intelligence in the Army and held a TSsci clearance. You think it would be worth taking their courses through Intellectual Point. I can't seem to find any info on the program other than their own propaganda.
Thoughts on the military route? Currently I'm getting a certificate from a bootcamp backed by my local uni (UCF), and after that I'm planning on going full time 4 years in the military, specifically for cyber security. Is this a viable option to get 4 years of industry experience, and how would it look on my job resume?
hell yes do it, because realistically no company is going to hire you just based off of you having certificates/ a bachelor's. If you go in and serve for four years while applying your knowledge in cybersecurity, your chances of getting hired by a reputable company increase tremendously. You must go through background checks and such to work for these companies, they have to trust you, military will look excellent on your resume, wishing you luck
@hawks2025 My plan as of right now is: during winter break, learn as much as I can about network, security, and how to ethically hack and code on Python. Then go to the Air Force recruiter, take the ASVAB and score high enough for Cyber Security (around that field). Then, hope that I get the job. Were about to go to war with China, pretty sure the military would like more bodies in cyber security.
Yes
You’d be sweeping the mp until 1800 til ur 1sausage tells u to fck off, please don’t
I really like your stand, very neutral. It may come out as rude but for some reason you start explaining something and in the middle you start adding points to your speech with a different tone so my attention goes there. But please don't take it as plain insult, I really liked your video. Cheers!
Never knew antoine griezmann did a cyber security degree
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
Hey Colin I got a question im just starting out I love your video this really was eye opening and helped me walk away with a good perspective. Would you recommend getting a computer science degree with a concentration in cybersecurity? Im a father of two and im restarting my life and my education in a manner of speaking. I want to go into this industry the right way. But I dont know how or where to start off. Im gonna go to school but I want to make sure I don't waist my own time in the process.
Hi Colin, thanks for this insightful video. Could I get your perspective on doing a Masters in Cyber Security? I studied an unrelated degree (accountancy) and am thinking of spending 2 years to do part-time masters (not as long as a bachelor's). I am already in the cyber security industry at the entry level. Would I be better off going for the certification route? Thanks in advance!
Also, I'm thinking of doing either CRISC or CISM. Are you able to recommend which to do first?
Hi I'm interested in going to non-traditional way for cyber-security, for person that's just starting now would be most prudent way to begin?
check out Network Chuck on youtube, he talks extensively about self learning
Solid video mate!
more than 90 percent of employers looking for people who hold a bachelor degree in the relevant field. Especially in the UK.
now I do not know the situ in the US but I reckon a bachelors degree open up much more opp.
Great Content Man!
Coming from hvac and construction, covid lung got me so I'm looking for a career that doesn't have as much wear and tear on my body, I Love hvac but cybersecurity seems to be calling my name, service and repairs while learning this will be interesting
Im planning on trying to learn as much as i csn before i go get my bachelors in cybersecurity i wanna be working while im in school tbh
Would you recommend majoring in a computer science degree or cyber security degree? I don’t want to be limited to only Cyber security with the degree but at the same time it’s also the career I’m most interested in?
If you ever get the answer to this lmk, im in the same boat as you.
@@Oneandonly_24 likewise
Interesting take, definitely found this video to be helpful.
Recently, through my community college I was accepted into an IT apprenticeship at a bank. It includes free tuition for the rest of my associates degree. There's the promise of a job offer after the completion of the apprenticeship and I am considering going for my bachelors.
The time commitment is huge. I've seen a lot of IT people complete their degrees mid career....just to check that box. That's I might do. Cool video, thanks!
Colin, if I already have a BS in National Security should I get a second Bachelors degree in Cyber or just get my certifications only at SANS institute? TIA!
Dude go for certifications. Stop throwing money to college institutions. Watch video, pay for some resources online.
You have a degree. That box is checked. Get your certs and make some money. Don't waste money on another degree. Alot of employers just want to see that you have one.
You did not waste my time, thank you!
Currently going to school for information systems. Was thinking of continuing that while getting cyber security certs on the side. Do you think that is a decent way to go? I worry about limiting myself by just getting a cyber security degree.
Hi, 1 year later, did you end up deciding on what to do? I was thinking the same exact thing. How did it go for you?
hello can you answer above comment
Hello I am a senior in highschool and was also interested in Information systems and also getting cybersecurity certs. Pls answer
Thank you very much for information
Well as a Finn, the education is free.. So the cost is only if I need to apply study leave from work. And in Finland you can get at least 2 years of study leave in every 5 years time. I'm now studying Bachelor's degree and working 60% of the time.
Thats dope
Bachelors in computer Science or cybersecurity?
If more Americans knew you had things such as “study leave” we might not be so angry and stupid
i'm considering going this route to, i'm currently a federal employee so hope that helps, I also have an associates in Computer Information Tech that I hope to transfer a few credits toward the B.S. I also live in Augusta, GA which is said to be the Cybersecurity capital of the world so hope that also gives me an advantage, now my hurdles are my budget and time since I work full time living pay check to pay check.
Hi there, im not doing to hot in college, would most federal jobs not worry about that and still train me to accomplish my end goals?
@@Karss depot on the job, my job don’t require any degrees
@@Denspion ah ok
I’m 39 and planning on doing an online school next year. The college I’m looking at has a BS in information technology with a minor in cyber security. They also have a BS in cyber security. I don’t know which route I should go with.
Same man! I’m 33 and looked into BS in Information Technologies, but my brother is going for Cyber Security and now I don’t know which to shoot for.
Information technology is a broader subject which cybersecurity is under. If I were you, I'll go with the former because it will let you be well grounded on a wider range of topics in the IT industry and will also prepare you for a wider range of opportunities.
Self Study here from genesis transitioned through various roles eventually into Info Sec (Enjoyed the journey, still have plenty to learn. easily spend a life time continuing to learn),... still went the college route so not having a degree doesn't preclude me from moving into leadership positions down the road.
I have a bachelors in business and I’m enrolled in a cyber security bachelors program as a transfer student. They’re letting me apply all my gen ed credits from my first degree so I only have to take the degree specific courses. This will allow me to get a second bachelors in Cybersecurity in only about 3 semesters. I’d recommend this to anyone with a completed undergrad.
How did you do that ?
I am at UMGC now and I have a minor for Cyber and a major for Systems Management in IT. Does this sound like a good match? Thanks. Great video thanks.
Had to skip the money portion cuz I’m gettin that TA!!! But overall great video, I think I will start with getting as associates in IT before fully committing to the cyber security route. Who knows I may develop a love for coding. But I’m more interested in setting up the networks, running the lines, and getting the equipment up and running and maintaining said equipment.
You're idea is spot on. That is exactly what my counselor told me. If you want to get your feet wet, get an IT associates. From there he sais to then go for a bachelors in the another field, or do the same thing.
@@jonitalia5596 IT associates seems to broad is that a good degree? I get this vibe that a CS degree is superior and the rest aren't as good especially when it comes to the salary range.
Hey Collin ! What do you think about bootcamps ? ASU has a 6 month cyber security boot camp I was looking into
Have you done the Bootcamp and if you did has it been a good start?
I agree with the uselessness of Geology and such in degrees. Each state has a board that tries to decide what will make us all "well-rounded" after we graduate. My solution is to look into Associate degrees. You learn the nuts and bolts of a degree subject without all the fluff classes. You are in and out with a degree, which is more useful without the 3rd- and 4th-year management classes. If you want to be a manager, then transfer that degree to a 4-year program.
Thanks for the video. The degree I am perusing right now is in Computer Information Systems. My school does offer a specific Cybersecurity degree, but the CIS degree here offers four concentrations, and Cybersecurity is one of them. I’m really considering on doing it.
If you did go the certification route do you think the pay would be the same as a college degree or even close?
Can you do a video on the courses you took and is coding necessary for cyber?
do you think a associates degree could get you anywhere?
Thank you for the info.