Computer Science vs Cyber Security Degree (2022)
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- Computer Science vs Cyber Security Degree
Which one should I get?
Should I do a bootcamp?
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you mentioned needing 4 years of experience at 5:58 . what if I got my bachelor's in 2 years? 🤔
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If you're intending to go into cyber security/IT/Tech get your bachelors in computer science so you're not pigeon holed into just cyber security and its niches. With a BS in Comp Sci. you can get a job in all areas that encompass computer science, with cyber security being a subset of that. It would be harder for a cyber security degree to allow you to deviate from that subset. If you want to specialize in cyber security, get a masters degree after getting experience at cyber security job.
Thank you🙏🏻🙏🏻
+1
so u dont agree wth him?
Nah, all companies want are experience and certificates. You don't even have to go for any degrees if you are planning to get a job in tech. If you want to rank up in the hiearchy however, you need a bachelors at least. You would be surprised how many people work as a programmer having some sort of arts degree. Lol.
But it also depends on your capabilities as a student
I was really bad at C++ and math during my Comp Sci degree so I switched to Cyber
I'm a senior for my BSc in Cybersecurity and we had classes in both python and c#. Even with an advanced c# course. I agree with what Ryan here is saying. I already get emails every day with job offers and I haven't even updated my resume in a few years. lol
How did they find your resume?
Thank you so much for this video man! I’ve leaned more towards Cyber security but also was wondering if I should go for CS instead. I just got out of the military and I’m starting my first year of college this Spring at UTSA whose known for having the #1 Cyber Security program in the country! I’m so stoked to get started.
Congrats buddy, that's great, let me know how it goes
Whatever your situation is just know you are already ahead of the pack ! I ruined my opportunity for the military but thankfully this is America and the opportunities are endless !
Toaster??
@@duckl637 Can you kindly explain to me how you ruined your opportunity to join the military?
@@davejoe4692 that can literally be anything.
Hey so I’m considering adding a cybersecurity certification or a Bachelors in cybersecurity to my background and I am wrapping up my masters in criminal justice: homeland security in May. I’m curious to hear your opinion regarding this avenue, would it be worth tacking that on seeing as many new crimes, and the security of critical infrastructures are primarily through the web now and are evolving into such. Let me know your thoughts if at all possible. Thank you.
(My goals are to work to combat human trafficking, terrorism, or in an intelligence field)
WOW! I learned to code and obtained an associates for full stack dev and it was insane but a great set of skills, now going into obtaining my cybersecurity bachelors VERY happy to find this video made a few months ago and what you stated is so true about cyber. I started coding 2 years ago and CS was popular and now cyber seems to be where its at. Thanks for the video!!!
CS you can apply to a lot more career paths including cyber. If you want to really get the best of both, find a solid CS bachelors program and pursue a masters in Cybersecurity. You learn the fundamentals of computers in a decent CS program. Also don’t forget about a few good security certifications on the side.
Wdym by certifications?
This is the best idea
Just came across the comment. CS is the best idea for someone who wants options. But not so much for someone who wants to specialize and grow in the Cyber Security Field.
My advice: BSc in CS + CISSP if blue team and/or OSCP if red team. Flexibility with CS so you can pivot into a dev role if you want, but use top certs to target cyber roles.
Would you recommend getting a 2 year certificate or associates degree
Finally someone knows what he's talking about between CyberSecurity vs. CS degree. Thank you for an awesome video!
Guys what best ??
Computer science then master Cyber security .
Or
Cyber security then master Cyber security.
What is your choice??
And what you think petter?
I really wished I'd seen this video sooner I did a Cyber Security BootCamp and it was extremely hard, went from 40 students to 10. Majority of the students who actually understood the material already had experience using the software tools and knowledge of the commands they had to use. Way too much information to grasp at a fast pace. I ended up dropping the class.
Thanks for this comment
Holy Cow!! It’s that hard
I’m in a cybersecurity bootcamp through a local community college. It’s so much information. They break it into two semesters where I go. Even then I still feel like it’s too fast to be able to comprehend. Almost finished with the first semester
Crash course is always the best
I know it has been about a year since you posted this but I wanted to thank you.
I am coming up on finishing my second year of a CS degree and have quickly realized the subject matter doesn't really interest me too much and have recently decided to redirect to Cyber Security. I'd definitely say part of me was a little worried how this would play out but I also am actively coding on the side via my own personal projects and self paced courses on Udemy.
It might just all work out!
Hey, I’m noticing the same thing I’m a first year CIT major thinking of transferring to CS but I noticed the material is not that interesting to me. I want to get a profession in cyber but I’m not sure if I should transfer into CS or Cyber. Any tips?
I want to get into cybersecurity field but should I go for bachelors in cybersecurity or computer science? and then obviously masters in cybersecurity.
It depends on your goals, I suppose.
My end goal is to run my own cyber security based company so I'll focus on a dual degree in economics and computer science but still apply for software engineering and computer science (gen). Since, the university I plan to do my Master's in requires a, "Bachelor’s degree or equivalent in Computer Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Software Engineering, or Computer Science." then it doesn't matter if I take a bachelor in such.
With that said, I might end up taking for my dad's business so it's also something I can fall back on.
So, what are your goals? What do you're universities offer for an undergrad and what are requirements for a Master's?
Anyways, take my opinion with a grain of salt, I am not a professional (lol).
I am a 1st year bachelor of cybersecurity student, but found myself much more passionate about maths and coding compared to pen testing. THe only subject I am really interested in cybersecurity is cryptography because its maths heavy. I was thinking about transfer to computer science or software engineering previously, but after watched you video, I decided to give myself one more semester in the cybersecurity course
How has the extra semester impacted your thought process? Would love an update! As I’m considering changing my degree. 😊
He's probably dead
@@cookedpotato yes he got hacked and out of shame he eliminated himself.
@@noedits5543 lol imagine being a Cyber security graduate and you got hacked Soo fast 💀💀
I think your right, he couldn't take the shame
@@cookedpotato he was joking
Love that this popped up. I’ve been interested in both. I took a cyber security club back in high school (cyber patriot) and that’s what got my interested. I am in the process of getting a cyber security certificate and only need one more course , while I was also just taking courses for a Computer science degree. I think I may put my focus into cyber security
How are you liking cyber security?
@@ImAshleeS Im enjoying it. The classes I have taken so far have included virtual environments via Packet tracer. I liked setting up routers switches, firewalls etc. Waiting on the classes to process to receive my certificate for it now.
@@micaiahreese that’s super cool! Thank you for replying back.
not sure about the pros for a cybersecurity degree. the demand for cybersecurity professionals is specifically for those with a lot of experience like senior professionals, not juniors with bachelors, because it's just the nature of the job. lots of companies don't want some script kiddie being entrusted with their security (exaggeration but...) and there's a lack of job opportunities for juniors.
A caveat to getting a cybersecurity degree: a lot of the cybersecurity degrees do not teach you crap. When I see a candidate with a cybersecurity degree instead of certifications, I am instantly more weary and skeptical of their knowledge. I give them a chance, it just turns out the majority of them lack fundamental knowledge. This is just because cybersecurity degrees are relatively new and a lot of variation between the degrees; some will be too theoretical whereas some will be too hands-on.
Additionally, cybersecurity itself is not an entry-level field. There are entry-level cybersecurity jobs, but most entry-level cybersecurity jobs are mid-level IT jobs. The experience and knowledge gained in the previous IT job lays the fundamental knowledge required in cybersecurity.
On the other hand, computer science degrees have been around for a while and most are relatively well-developed and most will have very little variation with the core subjects. Also, computer science degrees allow for more job security as they are less specialized than cybersecurity.
Your words are going to stay in my mind for many upcoming years.👌👍
I know a Walmart cashier with 5 security certs. Doubt he can ever run a SOC or he would choose another career. Certs are studying a book and being a good test taker that you will forget the next morning.
You can pass an exam for Security certs, however you need at least 5 years hands on experience to be able to actually qualify as a CISSP or CISM.
This here is exactly why I switched to computer science despite all of the advanced mathematics it requires. Computer science degrees are very versatile and widely respected, whereas Cyber Security degrees are new and may not be respected or teach the true fundamentals
What about a BSc in Computer Science and then doing MSc in Information Security?
Did you mean to say to major in Cyber Security with coding on the side @ 7:00?
I'm 42 years old and am a successful aircraft maintanence technician. I currently make a little over 100k a year. I have no degree only a certificate through the FAA which I learned to get in 18 months. Cyber security intrigues me. Would it be worth it for me to go into cyber security? Since I'm making over 100k right now?
Enjoyed the video. Unfortunetly I was very unwell with covid back in Jan 2021 and still recovering now a year later. I maybe loosing my job down to capability/I'll health. Being unwell can open your eyes to try something new that I may not off before falling ill because you just get 'comfortable' in your job. I've been advised I can take free courses to learn new skills or better your skills and I'm thinking of computering route. You also gain a qualification and certificate at the end. Cyber security or coding is interesting me. I currently have no qualifications or haven't studied these before but I'm interested. At the age of 32 am I to late?
Taking some courses and studying appeals to me and would feel a good use of my time whilst recovering.
Would be interested in your thoughts.
I've also just subscribed 😀 👍
Never too late, just start your journey and it'll be alright. You probably already started it by now so, good luck
The college I’m looking to transfer has the option to do cyber security with a minor in computer science I think I might want to do that
Thanks a lot for your detailed knowledge, I m acknowledge by your information, thanks a lot again ❤️❤️
If I get a MS in Data Science and get a Cybersecurity certificate, how likely would I be able to land a job in Cybersecurity? I'm not particularly good at coding (like, the complicated coding). I'm already admitted to the program so it's kind of too late to back out now. Wish I have known about Cybersecurity degree sooner
I am not very tech-wise or have any experience with coding. I find cybersecurity interesting because I like to understand the vulnerability of the tech world. For right now I'm starting my major with computer science but I find it quite challenging. Should I switch my major to cybersecurity, or should I find a more easier path?
Thanks for the video! My bachelors has nothing to do with computer science…is getting a masters of computer science something that’s achievable? I’ve really interested but it’s seems kinda intimidating
I think you misspoke at end. No biggie. Believe you meant bachelors in Cyber Security with coding on side. Points well taken. Thank you.
What about the boot camp at Georgia Tech? It’s ranked top 8 boot camps because of the one on one training and community environment that you get after completing the boot camp?
what if I take bachelor in computer science and continue master in cyber security ?
Just turned in my resume for a big orange store yesterday. I'm nervous so I'm watching all I can LOL
Appreciate the video. I’m going to Woz U boot camp for cyber security and it’s 33 weeks. Mainly because I’m a veteran and my education benefits are paying for it. I know you’re against boot camps in most situations.
Most situations, but there's always an exception to the rule. I would see what kind of people have graduated Woz U and what they are doing
What happened after the boot camp?
Thank you for the video... I am just going to start my undergraduate this year but was very confused between cs and cbs , but now I have a plus point towards cyber security 🤗🙃😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Younger and less sure about career? Get a degree in computer science. Further into career and sure you want to be in infosec? Go with the cyber degree. After a number of years experience it will not matter.
Boot camp and unbranded carts are like cheap attendance awards and will do little to help you get a job. .
Great information to have in back pocket! Thanks for sharing! 😀
Thank you. How do you figure out the talent vs interest scale ?
You need to also use self-honesty to figure out what how interested you are in something, scale of 1-10, an easy way is that you genuinely like to learn the subject. You read books, listen to podcasts, love to learn the subject. That should tell you the how much you are interested.
@@RyanCrandall thank you
Thank you for the insights! Very helpful! Do you recommend CCNA or Network+ along with the degree in cyber security? Thanks!
you can do a roadmap, first take the ccna (its a better option than taking the Network+), then take the linux+ in order to get a good understandind of how it works, and then the security+. Before the security+ you have to choose other certifications according to what you are going to specialize.
@@gustavoortizvasquez6442 Awesome! Thank you!
I did a bootcamp, applied to several thousand jobs, can't tell you how many emails I received about higher qualified candidates.
Hey thank you for the educational video, ive got 1 year left from graduation of computer science bachelor and ive been thinking about getting into cyber security masters since im passionate about it, would you say its worth taking masters for cyber security or do i just take another route? What would you prefer ive been considering for awhile but i need a non bias answer. Thank you again
It's worth a Masters in Cyber Security, but I would recommend trying to find work beforehand and have a cyber security side gig/job/internship while doing it
Hello Ryan. I have no experience in Cyber but believe it be the way forward with regards to warfare. I'm looking into studying a MS in Cybersecurity. The particular program's track is in Policy, however. Is this still a good option with good benefits?
Or if you know people, that’s your key into getting a coding or cybersecurity job. It’s very challenging due to these fields being saturated
At 7:00 you said, “I would get a degree in computer science and learn coding on the side.” Did you mean get a degree in Cyber Security? I’m confused because you just said the opposite prior to that.
Hey , i was doing my computer science bachelor degree . I am in 2nd year right now but i am going to leave it and change my bachelor's into cyber security.would that be okay? And how will I gain experience as in cyber security ?
I’m in the same situation as you. Not sure if it’s worth changing or if I should just stick with it
@@Mlobb7 i think it might be , because computer science even though teaches the computer core but it doesn't provide much technical and future skills as a cyber security engineer .
Hello brother ❤️
I'm from Morocco i was looking to do computer science bachelor but now i will do cyber security in university of Arizona online because in Morocco we don't have that here so do u recommend it to me to do cyber security at university of Arizona sir ?
I bet his wife has shoes all over the house...and he can't say ANYTHING about it. LOOL
I’m a non IT major (business) how can I get into cybersecurity?
I know this is 11months old. Praying you see this. I am currently working on both MIS and Cybersecurity degree. Along with a coding bootcamp (hopefully soon) I'm curious have I potentially messed up by not going CS?
That's awesome 👌 thanks for such an informative video😊
Ryan, thank you for the explanation. The way you instated, I am paraphrasing here "looking at today you're making more money as a software/computer science, looking in the next 2-5 year". I was a little insecure of the idea I'll be regretting the desicion on majoring in Cyber Security.
Don't 'regret' your decision, just start focusing on the now and making a gameplan for how you want to direct yourself :)
Hey Ryan Im gonna finish my bachelors in computer science next year, and i plan on doing masters in cyber security after that. Not sure if its the right decision, stuck between USA,CANADA and AUSTRALIA. Drop a recommendation of the country and the uni's if possible. Cheers🍺
Hi pro am from somalia am in first year in university am want to learn a networking and cybersecurity after that .plz tell me my decision is right or wrong 🙏
This is DA video, my husband graduated from Cyber Security BS and I am working on my Computer Science Software Engineer BS. This is the fight in my house XDDD we joke around a lot but thank you about the informative video. Much Love from 2 nerds.
thank you! i am going through a career transition and I am now looking into these career paths.
You misspoke at the end and said "computer science" rather than the intended cyber security.
Want to clarify a point with a Masters in Comp Sci, not sure how it isn't worth it, all of the professionals I have talked to through the national labs have said otherwise. Maybe it is different in the private sector but I wouldn't think it'd be.
hey do you recommend a associate degree in computer science or cybersecurity since im trying to decided which one will get me a job faster and overall which one is more worth it and which one has more job oppourtunities .
also if its possible to switch from cybersecurity to computer science.
Most computer science jobs require bachelors while cyber security is associate degree
Hi! Thank you for this great information. I am currently doing BS in computer technology. But I am thinking about changing it to either Data science or Cybersecurity!! What would you prefer, if it was for you? Thank you again
Oooh that's a good questions. Both are going to do well, so I would start taking maybe both classes and see which one you naturally gravitate towards
I went for a BA in Mathematics. Now, after 20 years working in computer infrastructure and support, I'm doing an MSc in Cyber Security. Looking forward to see where it takes me.
What are you doing 4 months later?
@@unholy7324 Still doing the MSc - another 18 months to go. I'm on a Software Security module at the moment - doing a bit of a crash course in C and Assembly to test out vulnerabilities like buffer overflows and format string vulnerabilities. Quite challenging fitting it in around work but it is interesting.
@@ralph17p head down keep going! After 1.5 years of teaching myself networking, pentesting, and python I received an email scheduling my first interview today. If my knuckle dragging ass can do it....
Does that still matter after 20 years of work experience? Thought a BSc or MSc only matter when you first get a job.
Did you have to earn a bachelor in cybersecurity before earning your master's?
Thank you for telling me that I am on the right path. 2nd year student in CS at a technical collage. I will have an AS degree in a few more months. I'm here to see what route to take. I'm not the best problem solver so I was looking into the Cyber Security field. I have no clue about how they differ.
Hey man im doing the exact same thing. I go to a trade school and in a few months I graduate. How is it looking for you man whats the update on your situation
Hello I’m not going to university as I don’t believe it’s the right route for me., I wanted to do a boot camp on cybersecurity or softwares engineering. However in the video you said that you don’t believe that boot camps are as good as people think and etc. What do you suggest I do and which should I pick out the two, or should I just not do a boot camp and go university.
Do you recommend a cybersecurity associate’s degree ?
thank you!!! this is the video i was looking for!, i was debating between CS and Security, but didnt know whch one to learn first, i had heard that it was a good idea to become a computer scientist first (because of the knowledge you get on computers since you learn how they work form the inside out) and then learn about cyber security but i guess is not such a bad idea to go straight into cyber security? and then if im really interested i guess go for CS or something else? thank you so so much!!!
Happy to help buddy!
Hey ryan, so I am 16 and really interested in cyber security. what do you think which is better for cyber security, computer science deegre or cyber security degree?
4:22 cybersecurity is my first priority and also i love coding but i am not comfortable with deep maths that are teach by the uni in computer science degree because it gives a lot of pressure to students ..... i learn deep maths with coding side by side rather than in uni.
how do you feel about a CS bachelours with a minor in cyber?
Thanks bro, this video is very helpful for me to make a choice for my degree!💻
Legit answered all the questions I was struggling with!! thank you man!!
You're welcome
This was perfect and exactly what I was wondering thank you so much from someone trying to make a career change in my 30s
I am almost 2 semesters from completing my Bachelors's in Computer Science...is still good for me to get into Cyber Security with this degree?? and are there any tools I need to be able to get into the field after graduation like internships? Certificates?
Yes, definitely start researching internships right away if your only 2 semesters. I also recommend starting the journey of looking at the Sec+ certification
Im going to go to a CC with a cybersecurity program, started learning coding already. I definitely want to transfer to a 4 year college afterwards
I am doing bachelors degree in Computer information science which is very similar to computer science degree, am I on the right track or should I change my major?
Both are good Fields. Computer Information Science is going to cover the hardware aspects a lot more than a compsci degree, its more hardware rather than coding
Looking for help here. Can I go for a computer science major and cybersecurity minor? Does that make sense?
I’m starting my first year in January. I’m right now enrolled as computer science. But as I move toward my 3rd and 4th year, that’s what I had in mind. It’d be nice to get some feedback and advice!
Bro this is my same situation but rn am in 12th only I'll be applying for 2025intake byt still confused eith what should i choose as a major and minor i like to go for cybersecurity actually what's your choice or should I major in CS and minor in Security?
These are all good questions. I would recommend personally the Cyber Security Major with the computer science minor. However, if that doesn't float your boat then definitely get the minor as a minimum. It depends on what your program provides as well as the level of depth that they can give you
So here’s somewhat of what I had in mind. My reason for having cybersecurity under my belt was for future proof purposes for when securing a job. I thought/think maybe having cybersecurity under my belt would/could help with pay (also having that knowledge won’t hurt.) my goal is to work as a software engineer. Just to throw out there, Here at my college at HCC In Tampa, the cybersecurity and CS classes only have minor differences. I’m assuming transferring over to the university upon completion of 2nd year is where you’ll see big changes in the two?
Kind of almost want to change to cybersecurity for my first two years then go major in CS and minor in cybersecurity. Again Software Engineer is the goal after the 4 years
Thank you for your reply btw! Please continue to share your thoughts and advice
Oh and cryptography is something I’m also interested in for the future since I’ve been trading for about 6years now. I know that’s definitely going to be a part of our not so far future
Computer Science
Cybersecurity
AI
Cryptography
They all seem like they tie in well together. I could be wrong.
Woah. So I’m just finding out that there is a tech recession going on 🙁 I’m not going to back down now but this does sound concerning. Well hopefully 4 years from now things are different.
AI seems to be big 🫤
@@izaigacet9437 I am currently studying in 12th so i need to choose which path I am going for right now and start to plan am from India and planning to Study abroad but am confused within taking the courses. But cybersecurity is more futuristic I think because there is a need for cybersecurity everywhere and many things are happening through cyber
Question, not to get too deep in this, but at 47 and a lifelong computer nerd, always up on the latest tech and such, and used to code in python many years go. Hell, I still run and eat healthy, it's good for the brain. I just started a 2 year tech college for a degree in web design/front-end development and currently, I'm teaching myself HTML. css and java script before I even get to those parts of the college course. If I know my stuff, and I have a good website resume, will ageism be a thing still, or nowadays will a company only care about what I can do.
Anybody can find things they don’t like about anyone, just be marketable and optimistic, doors will open if you have the willpowers
One of the coming trends is that for programmers to have admin level access to corporate computers they must have a Cyber Security certification. The certification is a breeze for those that understand computers at a technical level the way software engineers do. Get the engineering degree and the rest is a piece of cake.
What is your say now with Ai like chat gpt coming out???
which math is easyer because m not that good in maths and i wanna chose sth
Hi Ryan, I am a psychology major considering going to school for cybersecurity. My major has given me the skills to observe objectively and take a path towards discovery and implementation. However, I want to take this further and incorporate tools into my work to prepare myself for a degree in cybersecurity, do you have any foundational recommendations I can do on my own? I recall you suggesting coding as something that is resourceful for such field. Thank you for any help you may offer.
Hi Brittany, I have a degree in Psychology too and I am on my way finishing my MS in IT: Cybersecurity. You are right about coding. I studied SQL and Python on my own before and when I took my coding classes, the prior coding knowledge helped me pass that class. Also, if pen testing is something you want to go into, I would study computer networks and ethical hacking. I am also reading books and reviewers for Network+ and Security+ for certification. It is very challenging if you are coming from a non-tech background but I would say if you really want to switch careers, it is very doable and it requires perseverance and hard work. Good luck!
Hi Ryan
Great content, I really admire you.
Do you recomment doing a bachelors degree in cyber security and then to go for the masters ? Or it is better to do a comp sc. bachelors and than the cyber sec. masters ??
Hi Tamas, I appreciate it!
I recommend doing a Bachelors Degree in Cyber Security at the minimum. I think I'll make a video explaining my view though on the masters, etc.
Hello!
I am also interested is cybersec and am starting my bachelor's this year,
Can you name some good colleges for Cybersec masters.
Currently about to get my AS for CS. Just started getting a bigger interest in cyber. Worried i wasted two years of schooling now
It's never a waste, and there's always time to pivot :)
I have a bachelors and masters in business but looking at as associate degree in cybersecurity at our community college. What are your thoughts on just doing a 2 year degree in cyber security?
That sounds like a great combination. 2 year degree is better than just a bootcamp, and with a MBA that sounds like a good mix. Sounds like a good plan, try to get an internship or entry level at a Cyber company though :)
Hi Ryan Crandall, Thank you for explaining everything crystal clear.
I am almost 50 and I am in school now for a Bachelors in Cybersecurity. With my background as a 30 year Paramedic and Volunteer Firefighter and 20 years as a police officer then throw in the past 6 years as a death investigator I have wondered if it was the right decision
Just came across this video and it cleread my mind. Am 41 years and starting my BSc.Cyber Security in 2 days. I hope to make it to Master's
Holy shit, absolutely amazing video from someone with experience, thank you very much!
I'm glad it helped :)
Dropped out of college my freshman year, and I'm looking to go back, but I am absolutely horrible at problem solving and solving rubix cubes. Should I even enter the industry in the first place?
Good points. I went somewhat a different route. All my mentors that are currently at the top or upper median of this industry highly recommended CS over cyber. Because everything is going automation and someone has to write all of that. Particularly when you consider the normalization of remote work. Coders with focus and knowledge in cybersec are going to be in higher demand than ever.
I'm sorry maybe I'm just confused but above you said that your mentors recommended CS over cyber than you said that someone with cyber knowledge and coding is going to be in more demand???
@@waliullah3286 I was explaining that cs practitioners that can develop and maintain cyber security infrastructure are in demand because many of the enterprise functions in the cyber security space are being automated by engineers who can design scripts and applications to replace people doing it. Most ticket issues that cannot be immediately solved at the application level are already escalated to engineers anyway. So, approaching infrastructure as code from a cs background is far easier and likely more valuable long term than climbing the purist cyber security hierarchy and discovering you have to go back and learn to code anyway.
It’s like achieving journeyman as a race car driver and then finding out that in order to graduate into masterclass rank you need to know how to build the engine that drives the car.
Ultimately it depends on how far you want to go, some people are happy being mid level. My mentor had to go back and learn to code later in his career and lamented not doing it earlier in college.
@@alonzodavis3987 thanks for the explanation, I'm currently an As level student in a 3rd world country who originally was planning on becoming a doctor but can't due to expenses, so now have decided to go into the computer science field out of which cybersecurity seemed most interesting (from the outside atleast) and futureproof (especially where I'm from) and also considering that i hate algebra was leaning towards a bs in cyber over a bsCS but who knows, I'll keep on researching as I have some time in hand and make a decision
Your answer really make sense and to the point to me. All the elaboration really resonate with my thinking as well. Really help me to clarify some decisions i am making.🙏🏻🙏🏻
So I would need bachelors in computer science and concentration in cyber security is a good route? That is what I am doing right now.
That sounds like a great route!
One thing you said that I want to emphasize is do what you like to do! I'm going to college online, so this especially applies to me. I tried cybersecurity and didn't like it (even though I have sec+ for my job). I switched to computer science because I know coding is what I love to do.
You said BS in cybersec and then learn to code on the side. What about BS in CS and study cybersec on the side for certs (Sec+, CISSP etc). What are your thoughts on that? I am in gov contracting and they love those certs.
BS in CS is also a very good option. It is more generalized and that's beneficial to a lot of jobs for new grads. Contrary to some beliefs, jobs aren't looking for people that can already do X things. They are looking for people who are quick to learn and will have a short period of time between acquiring role-specific tasks and executing those tasks well. Especially in the tech sector they are also looking for people who can think "how can we automate this or make this simpler?" which isn't something you can really just teach in school.
School is good for building foundational understandings to make it easier to navigate through and reason a problem. So having something that showcases "I know how to interpret software, modify software, or create custom software solutions (e.g. scripts)" will be very sought after. As for certifications, if government contractors like that and that's your sphere of work, then go for it.
For career shifter, do you recommend a 4 year bachelor's degree in Cybersecurity or a Master's degree?
Obviously a master, or certificates if you already have bachelor’s degree
Great video!!! I’m back in school taking classes for my masters of computer science. My bachelors was in economics. I'm trying to decide on if I should do a concentration in big data management or cybersecurity. What do you think is the better choice? Income and job market differences between these two? Btw, I like your heels
You economics background will help you later in life when you have money to invest. Cybersecurity is a management field. To initially build your initial nest egg you need a technical field. Engineering is where it starts.
LOST, Need Advice. Im currently 2nd year Cyber Sec. 2 more years to go. I don't know where to start with looking for jobs. Currently I have no FORMAL WORK experience in IT or Cyber; I work a manual labor job.
So getting a masters degree in cyber security would give me a huge bump?
What exactly do you mean by "computer science"? Algorithms and data structures? Software design? Programming? etc.
I've recently decided to go back to school for a career change to cybersecurity. I was wondering if you think it matters which school someone goes to. For example, if I got a degree from VT or Syracuse vs a St Bonaventure or Kennesaw State. The biggest difference I see (besides name recognition) is the length of the classes (7 weeks vs full semester). I was curious what your thoughts are since you're a hiring manager.
From my experience in the real world. Where you chose to go to college doesn’t really matter. All that matters is that you finish and get that degree. So it’s best to find the cheapest college for the program your wanting to take, because you don’t want to borrow more in student loans then you’ll be making your first years on the job.
The only thing that matters is that your school is accredited and likely to remain that way. I would not go to one that doesn't offer an engineering path also. When the internet was originally developed physical security was assumed and just getting things to work was the main objective. No thought was placed on security as it was developed to be completely private for engineers to use only. Once the engineers get the bugs worked out of the internet protocols there will be much less need for cybersecurity. Get an engineering degree if you are planning long term.
Thank you sir, but i have a qst, what's the difference between information security and cyber security?
BS in Information Technology Cyber Security & the University offering MBA after that basically for free. Made the President’s list 4.00 GPA about to again this term. I love hearing Geeks Speak Any Recommendations Thanks
As someone in IT I see both worlds am going to Go back and get a bachelor's degree and its gonna be Computer science or Computer networking and not Cyber security.
And this is because at work(fortune 500) it feels like the Networking People are so much more needed Because they tend to double as security as well forex ample with doing things like building a vpn Tunnel and configuring a firewall.
whereas cyber security it feels like Tools are incorporating good security components and forcing good security practices unto the users which means that the Cyber security Hype will die down than go up.
And with COMP sci you get to create the Tools that all the other IT fields use
so I would rank them like this and you can always learn all to be honest.
1 Networking
2 computer science
3 cyber security
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I have degree (bachelor )of police academy of Europe Union country . I work in this job from 2010.
I have a level 2 degree on software development.
I have done a course - diploma ( with 33 ECVET ) in IT and cyber security ( from VELLUM)
Is it a good idea to take a master on cyber security ? I want to go to work at U.K. police .
Do they need people in this job?
Will they recognise my degrees and certificates?
My problem is I’m in my 40s now. I was in the IT Field for over 15 years then switched careers back in 2015 after being let go from the company I was with then. I needed a job and a change so I got into Residential Construction Management since I was doing flips on the side during my time working as a Sys Admin. I currently make $100K a year as a Construction Manager but I can’t even seem to get a desktop support role now. I can’t stomach going back to school in my 40s just to make less than what I’m making now. Any advise….
Could you get a cyber security job as a computer science graduate
Yes you could, if you position yourself correctly
Please how to get free tuition for one of these universities in Illinois ?! Which ones?? My daughter has early graduation from her high school in illinois… And she wants to do about Computer with high salary and she confused….Any advice 🙏🏻 thank you,
I have a BS in Cybersecurity. I'm about to finish my Masters in the same. I've been watching a lot of videos, reading a lot of articles, and talking to IT personnel who have been bashing getting a degree. They all talk about certifications/certifications/certifications. It's been very discouraging. What are your thoughts?
I'd be interested in an answer to this too!
Sir is it good to do bs in cyber security then master in cyber security or bachelor is enough?
@@syedfaheemulhassan6521 Honestly, If you want to be a manager or CISO, then yes. Get those degrees and a CISSP.
If you want to do anything like ethical hacking, incident repaonse, or auditing then I would recommend getting a bachelor's in computer science and minor in Cybersecurity (with cyber certs while also learning html, Java, or python).
Or skip masters degree and get 2 bachelor's degrees: cyber and computer science.
I am behind the curve learning how to code two yrs after graduation.