2022 Honda Civic FE RS vs Mazda 3 Sedan - Japanese Flame Wars
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2024
- There's a C-segment clash for the crown of best sedan.
Honda Civic RS vs Mazda 3 Sedan - which one is for you?
Jim compares both and shares his findings!
And shoutout to Sam for kindly letting us borrow his beloved Mazda 3!
0:00 Intro
2:13 Exterior
2:53 Interior
6:03 Nitpicks
8:11 Easter eggs
8:40 Mazda 3 interior
9:13 Features in both cars
9:50 Driving the Mazda 3
13:55 Driving the Civic RS
22:16 Conclusion
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Carlist pls give this dude a raise, this dude gave such a splendid comparison especially with his accent
Thank you kindly Jonathan, we'll definitely note this down for Jim come time for his appraisal.
For real
Setuju, good job man.
What does the accent have to do with anything?
@@rexie8569 Good accent means attracting more views from outside world. More views = more profit
Absolutely great review. Thank you.
I've seen lots of Civic FE vs Mazda 3 comparison reviews, but this is one of the most fascinating so far. Love the delivery, love how the reviewer highlights little aspects that other reviewers might only touch on, love how it's made easily accessible for both everyday commuters and those who are more passionate about driving. This is A-plus content.
Excellent review and comparison! Subscribing now!
Those hump you call center tunnel are actually the passageway for exhaust system. Also help improve structural rigidity. It is not meant to use for propshaft of RWD/4WD only.
last 2 weeks, i've tested both cars...and as a person who love driving, my deposit money goes to mazda 3... just love the dynamics,driving feels, premium exterior n interior.. it might be not too generous for the space, but it sufficient enough for single person like me..
if only bermaz can bring the mazda3 2.5 turbo..fuhhh.. i think,im gonna buy that too...
Salam Mr. Zak, boleh share which branch that has the test drive readily avail?
There is no 2.5 turbo RHD unfortunately 😅
Ini macam bagus. Try sendiri and make your decision because only you can determine what is a winner for you and what is a dealbreaker!
Enjoy your new Mazda 3 Zaki!
I totally agree with you.
Mazda 3 2.5 turbo AWD is just icing on the cake, would definitely place a booking for that but sadly, we won't get it.
Bro if got 2.5t I am buying it tomorrow itself 🥹
Subscribed. Love this reviewer.
I rarely post comments but this time I must make an exception. Really brilliant review. Totally nailed it. All the relevant info and impressions delivered in a very engaging and clear manner. Keep it up bro.👍👍
seriously thanks for the kind words! 🙏🙏
Pls do more review about other cars, I like Jim slang and honesty, keep it up! Subscribed!
More to come!
This is purely great review, thanks
I used to own Civic FC TCP. Currently a proud owner of the Mazda 3 Liftback 2.0. Test drove a Civic FE before and agree with Jim. All points on both cars are spot-on 👍
M3 for life bro 👍👍
the liftback/hatch is real sweet. our pick as well over the sedan 👍
Excellent review n comparison. Having owned 7 different Honda models n three of them civics, u got me thinking of trying out the Mazda 3 now😂
I go for Mazda 3.
Very clear review. Thank you
Good review.. thank you
Excellent review
Well done carlist for hiring this dude.
Excellent high standard review. Let me try to explain bulk center tunnel. Its the core strength for entire structure rigidity similar to building beam.
One thing about the Honda cars this review forgot to mention. All Honda cars assembled in Malaysia will show rattling sound in the cabin just after few months.
Because of this guy, subscribed!
we appreciate it!
Nitpick 4 i'm with you on that. Honda Malaysia doesn't even have Qi wireless charging as an optional accessory but HRV does and HRV doesn't even have wireless Carplay, pretty weird options from Honda Malaysia.
Civic is CKD and Mazda 3 is CBU but Mazda 3 has premium quality and better specs than Civic
who is this man, dude splendid job u done ! pls give him a raise !
In Australia, we have the 2.5L engine from the Mazda6 on the upspec versions of the Mazda3 (even in the previous generation from 2014 onwards). I think that would’ve helped it compare more favourably to the 1.5 Turbo in the Civic.
I know you mentioned the 2.5 Turbo AWD model that is North Am exclusive, due to being LHD specific, but I see no reason why they couldn’t bring the standard 2.5 RHD model to M’sia like they do for Aus.
On the flip side, we don’t get the Civic sedan in an affordable trim level here as there’s only one very expensive trim. But I guess they’re playing to each market, I know Honda was always wildly popular in Malaysia growing up there, as is Mazda in Australia over the past decade.
I’m own Honda Civic FC 1.5 Turbo TCP before change to Mazda 3 2.0 High Plus. In Term Of Handling, Interior & Design Mazda 3 Win. Just The Space Mazda 3 lost. Overall Mazda 3 Is A Good Car & Feels Premium
mazda3 have acc?
@@radhi2610 yes Mazda 3 got ACC
I think that easter egg tray in the middle with that laser-etched or high-resolution molded pattern of the original Civic, from the looks of it, allows you to put a piece of paper above it and go over it with a pencil to lift the pattern onto the paper, and cut it out to make a fold-up little car. Pretty cute touch..
Current Mazda's sedans are my dream cars. The fact that they stubbornly stick to 6-speed torque converter auto trans is a very good decision since they can withstand more high-spirited driving compared to CVTs.
But better than using honda cvt. Honda cvt got issues and more costlier to repair than mazda auto gearbox
@@juck2263 Yup. Transmissions with physical gears + torque converter like 4-speed, 5-speed, 6-speed and 8-speed gearboxes can withstand more pressure and friction from high-speed driving.
@@juck2263 Honda CVTs are excellent, probably only beaten by Toyota's on reliability.
Honda cvt is the worst reliability than mazda skyactiv drive. Toyota CVT or subaru Lineartronic CVT is also better than honda cvt
@@zackzack6715 you don't know what you're talking about if you think Subaru CVT is better. Subaru's literally had recalls and many problems on their CVTs. Also, did you read? I said Toyota CVTs are better than Honda's. Also, Skyactiv isn't true CVT.
Owned the FC and now using the M3 LB. Really worth every extra premium it bargains. If only Bermaz brings 2.5 with a CKD/CBU thailand price T_T
Mazda has perfected the 3 aesthetically and functionally
This is the first Honda car that really excites me as a Mazda fan boy
Love his efforts, his accent, please give him better mic or make his voice louder
give this dude a raise!
I prefer the looks of the Honda Covic FE RS but I can't ignore the superior drive quality of the Mazda 3.
Did you check the tire pressure on that rs?
I think some people called it uninterupted line for that big airvent...you know just to make it flawless design like others does in their car
jim is so macho, definitely a car guy 🎉🎉
Awesome review. Only thing i hate now is that I'm leaning towards mazda 3 😮. Mannn whatchu on mann😅
Last year i was looking for a new car and i was about to buy the C180 benz, then browsing on you tube and I've seen this Japanese car was compared with continental cars. I was astonished with its beauty, design and the interiors elegance, so I ended buying the mazda 3 Premium sedan and been a proud owner ever since, btw, i used to be a civic fan boy.
nice! the mazda is an older car by now but it still surprises us how much it punches above its weight. its design, build, handling should be a wake up call to premium brands
2020 facelifted Civic TCP variants come with 18” rims fitted with Michelin PS4, in which owners dont really need to go out and replace them.
mazda 3 for driving pleasure but the civic has the better package for day to day commute. as an owner of the last gen mazda 3 im happy that i choose it over the fc.btw spot on review and this fella deserved a channel on his own if there isnt any pay raise.
But civic got no blind spot monitor but come with poor resolution lanewatch camera, and no rear cross traffic alert and no camera parking system. This new civic also now no full digital meter and temperature gauge that downgrades from Civic ketam. Honda quality is also declining. Ketam is also looks more nicer than this copycat civic
@@northgirl9733 mehh all those gadget were fancy alright as an assist but not a deal breaker. If you love driving youll love the mazda. But i still think overall package the civic has it better. Better space, better accessories and a smooth ride which 70% of driving just involve driving to and from. The ketam looks to ah beng to me, the latest is just about all right with old cues of the 80s-90s civic.
Those gadget thinking is not good while saying civic has better package, so you can enjoy but proven that civic has less equipped specs than mazda 3
Need to comment the NVH as well. The Melaka made not known with NVH, cut cost for sound insulation material?
Mazda is definitely a driver’s car. Handling is good and very fun to drive ! The interior feel so premium, in fact more premium than some continental and luxury cars
yea, everything you mentioned is correct, but you have to spend more 20k on it🤣
Yea…at least mazda has better quality with spare parts also there and also come with blind spot monitor. Unlike honda, no blind spot monitor but poor honda quality and spare parts for honda also difficult to get
Mazda is no longer can be compared with honda. Mazda is going for markets that people who are only willing to buy near-luxury cars. But not as expensive as Lexus and the 3 Germans..
If I’m single, I would have gone with Mazda 3 HB. But since I’m a father of 2, Civic FE all the way. It just ranks higher in the Fun/Comfort matrix for me personally. But no denying that Mazda is hella fun to drive. Maybe one day I’ll get a miata as a weekender if I’m lucky.
I just had a newborn baby and currently im driving myvi. Straight away it makes me to buy a new car. My first choice is civic because of quite big space for the boot and rear seat but after watched and read all the comment it makes me rethinking back my choice 😅. If i would to choose mazda 3 is it sufficient enough in term of boot space and the comfortness ?
i stayed for the entire video bcs of the guy. well explained.
Is that Mazda 3 the top spec during Vs with top spec civic?
hello! newbie here. in terms of spareparts and fuel consumption, which one will consume more bucks?
Depend on ur driving in term of FC, i myself owner mzda3 BP, the FC average in town around 10-12km/1L but even better with I-stop activate in town,
On highway depending if u just chilling driving 90-125km, FC around 15-17km/1L, i even tested before when i was outstation kedah to KL in full tank with 25% town drive n 75% highway, i get around 732km for single full tank RON95.
This guy is damn good comparing the 2 cars. One of the best local car reviewers, if not the best🫡🫡🫡
Well done!
Like this dude's no nonsense straight talk, and nitpicks
Thank you!
The honda civic interior horizontal dash "grill work" reminds me of the chrome strip in about the same location in the 1957 Chevy. Why did Maza make the top of the dash with so many different elvations, so to clean it requires more than a simple swipe of a wrist.
the grill looks cheap for me
I will go for Mazda 3.... got 5 yrs free service some more. Handling best.
Wished we had more CKD options for C segments, like from Nissan, Mitsubishi and Subaru so the market wouldn't just be filled up with just Civics and the Corrolla is overall lacking especially in the sporty department
Enough Honda fanboy
Sadly the C segment sedan category is a dying breed, many would opt for SUV instead.
There’s options out there. just that Malaysian only buy Honda and Toyota.
same here. we miss the ford focus and peugeot 308 especially.
@@heanluen Having some Koreans and Americans would be great
That Mazda is beautiful! 🔥✌🏻🔥
agreed. for everything below high-end exotica, Mazda has GOATED good looks
6:15 It is to increase the chassis rigidity.
Please compare the back seats for both Mazda 3 vs. Civic RS. As a family man rear passenger seats is quite important.
Mazda 3 rear passenger not specious as civic
Rear seat space for mazda 3 is actually okay. Just the civic too mengada2, the rear seat is almost the segment D size.
If you prioritize spacious interior, you can pretty much skip Mazda as a whole because Honda and Toyota are way more spacious, especially Honda.
dont consider Mazda 3 if you want space.. it is a driver's car not a passenger's car
@@msj4934 right civic too much big i think civic can enter D segment for that size of car
I personally prefer the exterior of the Mazda 3 but can't get over how tight the cabin feels.
the space were good for the actual c segment..honda just spoilt it..go compare current fe with eg or ek..current fe or fc size almost identical to d segment accord..why do we have different segment if it same dang thing..doesnt make sense 😅
If u compare 8th and 9th gen Civic, they are no better than Mazda 3. Just that suddenly 10th gen Civic became huge and spacious similar to D segment.
@@nickwong2525 bs. 8th gen 9th gen civic can fit 3 adults in the back.
@@charlesdegaulle2928 I said more spacious, not how many people the car can fit. Even a B segment can fit 3 people behind, whether it is comfortable and spacious or not, it's a different matter. Learn to read properly before calling BS.
Beauty is pain they say😙. Beauty on the outside but not spacious inside. Deff not a prblm if u like pretty car.
I wonder if Civic e hev is better than the Madza 3...
Do we race when we have two beasts side by side ?
This guy accent is no joke,good reviews
Was waiting for him to say "water".
wa-TER or wa-DER or wa-DAR. place your bets haha
@@cheesiangwong3303 wo' oh'
The Mazda looks so much better! 🥰
Any mazda 3 group?
Nice honest review bro..agree with all you said..but this is Malaysia laa..nothing can beat honda..ahaha
Ye ke Pazli?
Ya².. can agree more with pazli. 😅
honda ckd ~ melaka.. just H tegak 😂.. just win roadtax murah sbb cc1.5.. poket💰 masing².. x perlu terase dgn komen² org lain.. enjoy saja 👍
Ya its true.. Klu ada Honda, amoi byk suka.. Amoi x tau ka mazda tu lbh mahal, cbu, lbh premium and quality.. Honda still behind Mazda for overall..
Which one has better lighting when traveling at night?
Mazda3 ,Honda Civic
Mazda 3 has adaptive headlights + auto highbeam. At night, the headlights follows the steering input while taking corners.
Exterior looks ugly. Front like Audi and behind like Hyundai. No temperature meter too. Mazda 3 is better
I'll take the Mazda everyday all day
Obviously you love the Mazda 3 saloon Jim😂 I do too but I will buy the civic V spec. More for the value and fantastic resale price. I’ve owned 3 generation of civics n now contemplating the 4th and have never been disappointed. So I must be the middle ground people 😂😂😂
买车在乎二手价格的话建议你不要买车
@@faramurnisitibinti2414 Tku. Maybe it’s time I look out for what I want instead now that the family are all grown up😀
Focus on resale price is a poor man mentality, if you can’t afford in the first place just buy 1 segment lower then
Please shoot with tele zooms! 👀 🙏🏼
"So please, please, please
Let me, let me, let me
Let me get what I want
This time..."
- The Smiths
Mazda 3🔥
Why not compare mazda 3 with corolla altis?
Mazda 3 has ACC with Stop & Go?
If i'm not mistaken, yes Mazda 3 has ACC with stop & go. The facelifted version or called Ignite Edition even has 360 camera and front cross traffic alert as well.
Mazda 3 got the sexy classy looks eventhough it is just a facelift not a new model
Selagi aftersales Honda tak improve, selagi tu dah taknak Honda
definately go to mazda 3
Damn bro dude got that Top Gear accent
powaaaaah! 🤣
You know that painful feeling when you're about to buy the Civic... but you go test drive Mazda 3... when you come back to buying the Civic, you know something is truly missing out there...
Omg exactly what I feel, so what did you decide on ? I’m leaning towards the Mazda 3 now
@@christophermullen7539 just put my down payment on Mazda 3 👌👌the facelift ver will ONLY have a square-shape head light and 10 inch infotainment with RM10k extra so…
honda is always going to be the better choice on paper for at least north america. But Mazdas, man after I drove one I never went back. I feel like they really wanted to make a coupe, because the backseat is barely useable
Mazda ,
Design 1st,practicality maybe 3rd after the engine n driving.. 😂
Nice and well reviewed. Will save money or sell able body to buy the Mazda. Civic is just too bland now.
The gap is too big in terms of CAR Refinement, quality and Class.. The Mazda was clearly meant to be rivals of the Germans.
But we all know the Civic will sell more due to the Logo💩
Mazda target audience is niche.. They keep ignoring the space problem..
Mazda buyers are those that can't afford conti..but still want to distinct themselves from typical japanese brand..lol
#seewhobutthurt
German's famous car reviewer once said that mzda is japanese bmw or bmw of japan😙
@@troll3497Ouch! 😂
We get 1.5 naturally aspirated Mazda 3 in Singapore...no 2.0 offered . . . . kenna smoke easily by Hyundai Avante 1.6 all the time.
sad but true. in malaysia can't get the 2.5 turbo awd mazda 3. but everything here gets smoked by myvis anyway
@@carlist_my AHAHAHA amen
Dua2 best...tapi sy pilih mazda 3..nmpk lebih cool
Isn’t the road noise and noise insulation in general in the civic is a bit worse than the Mazda ?
Yes correct.
You didn’t mention which car has more body roll
definitely Civic.
Civic, test drove both. Mazda 3 is more composed and slightly stiffer.
@@nickwong2525 I think is due the G vectoring exclusive to Mazda cars that Civic doesn’t have
@@nchmusic99 That definitely does contribute to the better body control.
@@nickwong2525 yeap because in my Honda City 2021 , it has lots of body roll for a small car , so I expect civic to be more or less the same
Tutup mata can say Mazda is always better than Civic la. If compare everything, Mazda still the best. With that price, I will vote for Mazda still. If Civic with 120K, I will opt in for it. It’s all abt the price at the end of the day.
Civic looks more like korean kpop, while Mazda 3 looks like Italian bella😌, you choose….😁
Kalau mampu, mazda 3. Civic ni kereta org kebanyakan. Bersepah kt jalan. Mazda ni premium
Bila bersepqh sparepart muroh and senang caru
Mazda boleh claim spare part cepat daripada honda. Perlu tunggu untuk honda panjang untuk dapat spare parts daripada mazda dan p1
@@zackzack6715 mazda claimn cepat? honda claimn steering box set, satu minggu je. mazda boleh?
I need to drive Then, kenapa banyak honda owner komplen tentang spare part delivery teruk daripada Mazda
@@northgirl9733 sparepart delivery jarang org komplen about honda. sparepart and stockist honda sangat banyak. siap ada standalone kedai honda parts macam hingan autoparts, jyunsei, capital.
mazda spareparts macamana?
Got my civic rs in the end of march, until today, i’m satisfied 😊
mazda only give u the feel, push to limit FE handle much much much better LOL
by seeing this video. it makes me want to buy the Mazda even more. to me being a big car enthusiast power is not my only concern. if we want power, just add in turbo on the Mazda like the 2L turbo that other markets have. Power is not my biggest concern because im not racing everyone on the road and honestly car enthusiast dont need tons of power. im not a racer nor do i want to race everybody, rather having fun is more important from a driver's car just like the MX5. so honestly engaging drive and fun is more important than power especially in this segment. Id rather put my money on the Mazda 3 and if it comes to the point i do need more power, just tune it, add a turbo in it. if i want even more. drop the 2.5 T engine in it. if it fits in other market, it will fit in Malaysian market. just as the same reason Mazda 3 has a transmission tunnel when it not a RWD, because America market has the AWD version. So the 2.5L T engine will fit. id rather have engaging and fun. Thank you Carlist and furthermore pls give this guy a raise. he is good. and very eloquent in the language. love the professionalism.
The Mazda3 made us smile more readily, more of the time, often at lower speeds. Who can put a price on that? :)
Bro, the skyactiv is a high comp engine, adding a turbo with a tune on it is a big nono to the engine, unless u going big touching the internals. Then it shud be fine 😅
I just got my mazda cx3 (used),done karak genting run.. its 110% satisfaction.. the pickup is strong, (cx3 use shorter gesr ratio).. and the FC is like myvi 1.5 when u want it to..
Which of the following makes Mazda 3 better handling compared to Civic FE?
- Weight distribution
- Centre of mass height
- Centre of mass
- Roll angular inertia
- Yaw and pitch angular inertia (polar moment)
- Suspension
- Spring rate
- Suspension travel
- Tires and wheels
- Track and wheelbase
- Unsprung weight
- Aerodynamics
- Delivery of power to the wheels and brakes
- Steering
- Electronic stability control
- Static alignment of the wheels
- Rigidity of the frame
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_handling)
Mazda reliable jugak…..specs baik dri Civic
I used to own the Civic 1.5 TC-P and recently test drove the new Civic RS. My personal opinion is that the newer Civic RS doesn’t excite me enough compared to the previous model in terms of interior and exterior (handling is slightly better in the new RS). If I were to buy the Civic RS, I’m paying “more” for “less”.
Not worth it. U got same engine. Same features. If u own tcp facelift. Same sensing. More good at lane watch camera comparing to fe rs. The camera has lower quality’s.
Huh? The 1.5 TC-P interior is more exciting than the new RS? That's too far fatched.
Yeah Civic RS spec is actually backward from Civic 1.5 TC-P
Bro, you didn't mention about Corolla Altis which is the cheapest C segment right now. I know it is oldest but the handling is top notch with TNGA platform and double wishbone suspension.
You're right the Altis also belongs in this segment but like you also rightly said it's the oldest and doesn't feel as premium as both the new Civic or Mazda 3.
@@carlist_my Altis still the most comfortable and suitable for family as the Civic seating position too low and the seat still very thin for rear seat. Center tunnel very tall cannot fit 3 adults. Btw Civic still lacking from Altis on features like rear cross traffic alert, 360 camera, dual a/c, rear blinds, auto wiper etc. Built quality still not improved much.
@@anandsamy5194 only dual a/c, 360 camera & BSM not available in this FE. The rest feature is there. But if you compare civic FE & FC facelift TC-P, you will notice FE have some downgrade like no dual a/c, not fully digital meter cluster and smaller boot space.
too bad altis is underpowered. waste time to compare with civic and m3.
@@ranceng6560 its not underpowered until difficult to overtake or climb Genting, typical Malaysian as usual concern only HP or turbo. Altis made for family who need comfort drive for long distance and peace of mind with low fuel consumption. Logically people drive most of the time on city no need speed all the time.
Because conti doesnt use CVT, thats why i dont want a civic..😅
As far as CVTs go, the one in the Civic is really good
Made in Japan CKD/Thailand vs Made in Malaysia🤔
Honda is asking too much for the latest iteration of the Civic. Yet buyers are snapping them up like hot cakes. Remember, when the buying stops, so will be the overcharging!
Sunroof! What for? Display 9in! For what?
British assent nice
Imma go for Honda and Civic all the time
Honda…no blind spot monitor but poor honda quality and honda spare parts also difficult to get
Nama yg sama aje keluar komen negative honda kat sini....