Behringer Neutron Desktop Semi-Modular - SonicLAB Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- We're looking at Behringer's latest analog synth - the Neutron Analog Semi Modular Desktop synth.
How good can a $300 synth sound?
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Three years later, this little synth is still with me and is a permanent resident in my modular setup.
It just sounds phenomenal and can keep up with synths, which are twice to three times as expensive!
And this demo made me preorder it back then! :D
11:50 "I'm getting a bit lost there"...oh yes.
I had mine delivered to my work, and then took it home at lunch (I live close by). I decided to "just play a couple of notes" and was 45 minutes late coming back to work.
That evening I started playing and ..later...my feet and calf muscles had fallen asleep from me not moving from one position for so long.
- should you choose to purchase one, heed my warning lest you succumb to my fate-
I ordered a second one the next morning.
It will arrive tomorrow.
I will put it next to my first one.
which is
Right beside the two Model D's that I.....needed
🤣
I'm definitely buying this. Almost bought a Bastl Kastle and a Meeblip Anode, then caught myself forgetting how badly I wanted the Neutron.
......I can smell the GAS from here.... 🤣🤣🤣
Got mine recently too! Opened it and felt like a kid on christmas!
When i came back to my senses.... i had been playing around with it for 7 hours.... i absolutely love it!
The fundamental is strong with this one
wow, that bass sound at 8:33 is already amazing with no additional patching! really impressive stuff.
What a GREAT time to be alive and a musician... Love this!
Mark Gardner Makes me fuk:)
Drool factor
I agree, Mark, it just blows my mind what one can do with a little budget and get big sounds.
The patchbay is brilliantly laid out. I buy this for $300 and and a Model D. I can play for weeks and never get bored. If I hate it, it's just $300. If I love it, I can still use the individual pieces through the patch bay. As my setup grows and I need a spare slew rate limiter, oscillator, filter, etc... it's all there. The bang for the buck factor is seriously there. Behringer is really storming into the analog synth market. Glad to see them shaking things up.
I know this comment is old, but you just helped me decide to pull the trigger on this thing.
fakshen1973 So did you get both? Which do you prefer?
I have both. The Model is .... a Model D! The Neutron is a whole other beast. It's easier to prefer the Neutron because it seems to do more, but the Model D has a lot of hidden features that are begging to be discovered too.
Haze Anderson I only have the Neutron but love it so far. I’d like to add the D one day though.
Haze Anderson I'm thinking of getting a Neutron first but in the future a model D. Is it easy to hook both up to one set of studio monitors?
Great review! One of the most GAS-inducing in a long time. And what a cool sounding/looking synth.
Overall I'm actually fairly impressed with Behringers foray into synths, eventhough so far it's been 90% hot air. what they've brought out has a lot going for it. This, however, is the first that doesn't make me think "yes, but...". They're not standing on anyones shoulders, no menu-diving or fans, no "yawn seen before", nothing remotely morally questionable. Just a solid sounding, unique piece of equipment.
No matter how critical one might be, and I'm usually very critical, I struggle to see what's not to like. You may opt for something else, seeing as analogue monosynths is a very crowded and competitive market, even when looking at semi-modular specifically. But I see nothing that should make anyone dismiss this out of hand.
I wonder how well this would fit into an Arturia RackBrute? I think it would make an amazing pair with a MiniBrute2(S), and mounted in a RackBrute - seriously tasty! Sadly more money than I got, but I'd be all over it.
Finally picked one of these up and it's a beast. The amount of sounds you can create with that patchbay are basically limitless.
Amazing sound, sounds like it's going to fry itself any moment now. Those oscillators and filter are so hot, sounds like the oscs have a ton of drift going on as well. Even without the patch bay out would be an amazing synth for the money, add in the patch bay and it seems an absolute steal. Wasn't convinced by the deep mind as thought it relied on effects too much but this looks all synth.
Excellent review as always Nick, woe betide the synth manufacturer who doesn't have a through zero on their pulse width modulation.
What a wonderful time to be alive
RIGHTTT
The catch-cry of the 21st Century Synth renaissance!
Except for the ads interrupting the demo ....
@@KarlGeorges you gotta love the wonderful time to be alive for its adblockers.
In a way, I'm quite envious of young people; my first synth (a Roland SH1000) cost me nearly a year's wages. Seriously.
Semi-modular are extremely exciting synths with mind bending possibilities. As a hardware guy, I was never interested in the massive cabling of modular covering up the controls....BUT.....this right side semi-mod of the Neutron/MiniBrut2/Mothers/ is on my list for next synth with Arturia's eurorack option. Just call me too obsessive with clean cabling, but this will be my highway into modular and all the modulation it can provide.
Wilderness Music I'm in the same boat! Recently got the MB2S and Dreadbox Nyx. Considering Neutron, Behringer Model-D, or Roland SE-02.
Wilderness Music it’s a different voltage but I highly recommend the ms20 as well. A converter will fix all of that.
The Neutron will be welcome to eurorack and semi-modular for so many people. The real complaint from people regarding modular? The price of entry. Case, power, cables, VCAs, osc’s, filters, envelopes, utility modules, FX....I spent about $2000 just getting started.
This sounds great, as does the Boog. Snobs can keep buying 5U, Make Noise and whatnot. This will give a lot of people the opportunity to experience analog modular. Its all good. Great job on this.
Cannot believe how good this sounds-really exceeds expectations!
Now, that's a lot of sound for your pound. I sold my Mother 32 because it made me want to get two more, which I couldn't afford, but for the price of two of those you could get four of these, so that's more justifiable. I like the look and features of it better than what I've seen of the upcoming Crave, I prefer the sound of the Model D, but I just love that patch bay and the stability of the 3340 clone chip.
16:00 Man I can never get enough of that talking filter bit. If you connect the second envelope through Attenuator 2 to the Attenuator 1 CV and let the LFO run through the Attenuator before going into the Freq Mod input you can automate the movement. It's very fiddly to get all the knobs just right, but it's an insane amount of fun.
Will look great beside my Behringer Model D
Gotta say, Behringer is doing wonders in the low cost space, and offering WAY more value than the leading brands. You can tell they are taking it seriously, and looking to unseat some of the big guys. I hope they keep at it and people buy this gear.
THATS what the BIG PLAYERS should do. But they using well known circuits - and pack them in OVERPRICED pieces of plastic.
Uli Behringer brings US that sounds back - and u can pay for it - and dont pay the name ^^
Ill buy every product from Behringer, thats intrested for me - because they sound very nice
@@fellpower Yep, the big guys are in trouble. The new Nord, upwards toward 6K, they are crazy. Roland, Korg, Yamaha better get tier act together. They'll still make great controllers but people are going to be having a second look at paying North of 1K for their "analog" synths or hybrids. I got my Roland FA06 10 years ago, 128 voices and great to program and sounds excellent. Now they guys want double that for 8 -16 voices and then subscribe to a cloud. Nope. Oh, Modal another good alternative.
This makes the sounds I want to hear.
Nick, one of the best reviews on Neutron! Not biased, no fanboy stuff... It's what I like :)
One thing is really cool: you're showing the oscilloscope view. It would be much better to have it for the whole review. The moments when something was changed and it's playing obviously.
A little late to the party, but just ordered myself one of these to add to my setup. Looking forward to having a lot of fun with those LARGE sounds!
Can't tell you how long I've been waiting for this video!!! 100% sold on this synth!
8:09 sounds amazing! Thanks for the great demo, just got mine a couple days ago and it's great!
Aaaand on to my shopping list it goes. I was fairly certain I was going to want one but it really does sound super. I thought it would be nice next to my Dark Energy... But it might actually replace it...
I thought EXACTLY the same :-)
Better than the Dark Energy? Was thinking to get one, a DE that is. Also graving for an Erebus.
12:20 We all have our 'filter faces' -- the face you make while tweaking the filter cutoff and finding sweet spots!
It’s the “wah-wah face” for synth players
Surprise of the decade? Absolutely mindblowing synth from Behringer.
Had mine for about a year now. Amazing machine, incredible modular gateway drug. I actually have learnt stuff on VCV which I've applied to the neutron later. My advice: Pair it with a CV sequencer, so you can use the two oscillators at your will. I use the SQ-1, but for more control the Keystep would probably be better, I just like the analog modular feel of the SQ. It looks like just a synth whatever, but its overdrive and modulable delay give it some rich personality. Oh, and BASS. Lots of it. If you have to buy anything from Behringer, it must be the Neutro. Go back to hating them after you have one. Best value semimodular, period.
I am getting one of these ASAP! I too was looking at the Moog Mother-32 and the Minitaur but this is not only cheaper but does more and sounds freakin great! Great review. Keep up the great work Nick! Though it does not have a sequencer, I could buy the Arturia Keystep Nick is using and still is cheaper than the Mother-32.
Been waiting for Nick to do this review and it's been worth the wait! when you see the price of some single modules this Neutron is STELLA!! ;-)
Seems to sound like a modern Roland System 100/101 (not 100M), certainly capable of Human League sounds including percussion. It is a definite buy for me! I hope Behringer continue to innovate (Analogue Drum machine please!) as well as replicate..
my thoughts exactly, this unit is an early Human League machine
That'd be cool,a behringer take on the 808/909 for £300 would be lovely.
Nicholas Bryant guess they listened haha. Just presented an 808
skeletonmodel yeah they're going kind of crazy at the moment behringer, on my gas list at the mo is there neutron, sh101 and 808 clones, closely followed by their model d clone. Of those most excited by the neutron, semi modular design and sounds dirty as hell. That and omnisphere's 2.5 hardware integration is making for a pretty interesting 2018.
MrClarkio Im in the same boat hahaha
I like the patch bay on the side because if you wish to daisy chain them the patch leads don't get in the way of the controls like they do on a pair of Craves mounted one above the other.
I just bought me the BEST oscillators tor my modular system ! those 3340 clones are TOP ! they sound fantastic through all my other filters !
Sounds great.I guess I will be adding this to my Behri collection ,next to Model D,and DM12 ,now this,later K2 ,Pro 1 and enough.Moving to another shopping sector.
Wow, thats a massive sound, BURG approves! :) good review as always !
Buuuuuuuurg :D
Love your music dude :)
6 years later, I am watching your review Nick. Have to say, you're the best. Always top notch! 👍 Thank you so much for bringing this to us.
Very kind.
Good review! And results far better than I expected. Really nice sounding modular with cool options. With the dual oscillators, LFO and filter you have 4 audio sound sources. What I like very much is the sound and character, as well as the very nice filter which is not your everyday 4-pole transistor ladder. And at an amazing price as well! Serious stuff here.
I have three of these beasts connected makes one hell of a modular synth
blow off sorry troll!
@@Bonn5656
I've just married mine with the Proton ...
I don't know much about analog synthesis, but I learn a lot when I watch your reviews. Well done mate keep them coming.
WOW. What a comprehensive demo - thank you Nick Batt. There is almost nothing to not like about this amazing, flexible machine. Are you imagining the almost endless possibilities just like I am right now? Also, unlike some folks, I actually think it looks really cool and distinctive - not just another black or grey synth. Very impressed by this unit.
Great review Nick! This thing is an absolute monster, especially for $300 - Cant go wrong!!!
Almost bought the mother-32, this does more at 1/2 the price. Moog and Korg aren’t getting my money anytime soon.
im with you looks like this is what the m32 should have been!
Doesn't have a built in sequencer, yet has a sweet bucket brigade delay for those infinite noisescapes.
Price aside, when I hear a Neutron demo that sounds anywhere near as good as the original Mother-32 demo with Bana Haffar and company, I'll be convinced. Until then, I'm going to assume the Mother-32 is a better sounding, more reliable box.
Imo, I think this is a great companion for the m32. Yes I own 2 and at that price, I'll be adding a neutron as well haha.
Dude.... The shitty audio gear company of my childhood/pre modona years is this young adults HOLIDAY SWAGGGG!!! EAT SHIT GEAR SLUTZZZZ!
This thing is actually insane what the hell. It's an analog synth for 300 dollars and it does almost everything
Slew is also traditionally used to make portamento by patching the slew between the sequencer and 1V/O input of the synth, then activate the slew via CV between the notes which you wish to portamento.
Love this synth from the very first moment, such deep analogue sound and almost endless possibilities! it's a steal for its price, fantastic piece of gear, one of my favourites
The sheer multitude of patch routing options and, hardwired options just makes this synth a mist have . eurorack compatibilty and intergration option ?, .....a true bonus in my opinion !!!!
This thing is the tits. Had one for about 2 weeks. I'm listening to a patch I just made with mine. Modulation madness with the s/h into both lfo shape and oscillator shape. It is bat shit crazy. Loving it.
Hey Uli, Give us some more original semi modular synths just like this one and you will be on to a winner for sure. Also don't be shy with the inexpensive tribute synths. I'm looking into one of the model Ds. That sounds very decent from what I've heard.
Love it! Behringer have done an outstanding job. Hoping they bring out something similar in a polyphonic vein.
I really wanna hear more of neutron in duophonic mode
Just got a notifications from Sweetwater earlier today that mine finally shipped out! :D Had to rewatch this in anticipation lol
This is a KILLER synth and Eurorack module. It's got so many utilities and tricks, it's like a mini rack all by itself. So for the cost of a nice module, you can get a complete voice with loads of extras. My only complaint is that there isn't a dedicated clock out, I have to use up an LFO output. But maybe that can be added as an assignable output in a future firmware. It could be the S&H clock out.
I hope they come out with a black faceplate. Great oscilloscope footage, very helpful! Especially since the oscillators do more than the usual switch between the typical 4 waveforms.
www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1222734-behringer-neutron-custom-overlay-showcase.html
I’m (/standing firmly) on the my choice/contemplation of Minibrute 2S and Moog Dfam
NIIIIIICK!!!!! best neutron video so far.
1. lower range of the keyboard was used.... so we can really hear what is going on and, lets face it, it is more fun than bloody bleeps a ultrasounds
2. very few have been using the patch bay so far. and if, not realy with explanation. that makes you superior to other reviews. you not leting out hings yougot no clue about, and i love it
well done and thank you. i was sure i will buy it anyway, but now i will buy two :D
I want One. And I hope UDG Creator would be fast to make some fine hard(foam)case so I may take it anywhere when travelling...good spot to me
Nick is supercool bloke.
Every time I stumble upon one of Sonic LAB reviews, I realise that it is a good example of fine journalism in music tech world.
Yeah, those synched square waves do sound pretty large. Got a D on order so will be playing with that one first!
this should put some fire under moog for real... your "brand" can only take you so far, people want more than repackaged monophonic synths
I think part of the reason Moog charges so much is that their synths are all hand-made.
@@mikeexits question being: how does it being hand made benefit me, the user, in any way with this kind of instrument?
Like I fully get it with things like guitars, violins and pianos, but an electronic instrument? I'd probably *prefer* automated assembly considering how much more precise and reliable it is.
@@thijsschipper6406 you're paying extra for the craftsmanship. Like with anything hand made.
@@disarmsox well sure. My question stands, though. How does craftsmanship of an electronic instrument make it a better instrument? Does it make it more reliable? Sound better? Play better? Or is it just bling, the synth equivalent of chrome rims?
Given how good automated production is nowadays, I'm leaning towards the latter, for the same reason that nobody hand builds computers anymore.
@@thijsschipper6406 it's your preference
Awesome stuff! Can't wait 'til preorders go up in Europe :D It sounds like Godzilla's thunderous trouser trumpets and an amazing review as expected from Nick
The one I'll never sell. It just sounds so rich and "phat" and can do all the freaky stuff. It's very musical indeed. It puts my Model D to shame since I go to the Neutron for bass instead of that already great sounding minimoog clone... It just does bass better, I feel, which seems absurd.
I have to say I prefer the low end of the neutron than the one of the D.
Great review .. the neutron sounds excellent and musical ,, the bottom end is unreal .
Great review! Those oscillators from behringer finally sound good. Still prefer my ms20 desktop over this but I'm just really hoping that behringer gets the continously variable filter going for the Obxa clone. Please please please....
My 1st Sonic LAB that isn't a rerun. 🤗
I've got mine hooked up to the Model D. Next up will be a K2 to replace the MS20 I lent to someone and never got back. The future looks good. The future is Behringer.
The one company that both makes the synths people want, and sells them for a price people can pay.
This, the Novation Circuits Groove and Mono, and the Arturia KeyStep are on my shopping list, ~$1300.
Yeah, thought this would be a must-have for that price. Great review Nick, thanks!
Thanks Nick! Amazing what 300bux gets ya - even if just for additional filter/lfo for an existing set-up. Quite a no-brainer for me personally!
Wow nice, love the brash red design as well and 300 bucks its a no brainer.
This synth Is fanstastic ! Can we talk about that price / value ratio tho ?
the jam at the end is the best sonic demonstration for me.... more of that!
I love it! Bass bass and more bass is my general music theory....cant wait! Thanks Nick!
if its good enough for Nick, then i'm sold
Best Behringer Neutron review on youtube. Thanks Nick! They are going to sell these by the boatload! Hope Uli can keep up, so I can get one before too long.
I've had my neutron for about a month or Two. VERY FUN. no problems with it so far!
Has anyone read or heard why this synth isn't listed yet? Even to pre-order? Everyone knows it's coming, but no one can point to a listing and say "Here's where you can get it...eventually." Beyond that: Great review, as always. Like with most of your Sonic Labs, this one is really making me want to pick one up as soon as it releases.
SEPTEMBER
I can't play the piano, I haven't ever cared for electronic music, and I still want this thing. Badly. Since reading that some Pink Floyd album used an analogue synth for much of its effects, I've been playing the album back and forth all day, enjoying the prospect of widening my musical horizons with the Neutron. Oh, where's my $300 gone?
12:28 Lovely indeed. Aswome review for an awesome synth.
This is going to be "Ace" along side the TEMPEST! Very nice semi modular! Awesome price!
Wow. This sounds amazing. Super flexible oscillators.
Very nicely done. I have one... and am always learning more of what it can do. Helpful info appreciated. ✨
Brlliant review, Nick. Could replace a bunch of modules in my rack and augment a lot of the others. Kinda puts me off bothering to finish my Doepfer DIY synth (80 more solder joints to go...)! Definitely interested in this (and thus knocking my analog poly budget back down to 0 again...)
PWM never goes "thru" zero, as it doesn't invert the polarity at the zero point. It simply goes from 50% to 0% duty cycle (also known as mark space ratio). Thru zero is used for frequency modulation (FM) extending past zero frequency into the negative-frequency. The negative-frequency version of a waveform is simply a time-reversed replica of the original waveform. When a VCO is modulated through zero frequency, the waveform slows down to a stop and then speeds back up in the reverse direction.
The neutron is my favorite synth I’ve ever bought. The patch bay has a lot of potential. I have about 50 videos on my channel about the neutron. 🤓
15:05 "Being boiled" first riff
Hard to beat for 300 bucks 😊
Will become the new companion for my matrixbrute, they do have a lot to share :) and the bbd FX seems better sounding than the one from the matrixbrute!
Wow that sounds massive! But we kind of already knew that thanks to earlier Sonic State vids. I hope you guys do another review where you actually get freaky with the patchbay!
Thanks for sharing this. For the Neutron especially it is good to have videos that show how to bring out what it can do. It is a little more manual than other synths.
This thing is going to sell like hotcakes! I'm definitely getting one. Maybe two.. or three.. four?
Am I the only one that loves the aesthetics? And the sound...
I'm surprised my Sweetwater engineer hasn't cut me off at this point.
At around 3:05 you can see the spectrum of an analog synth and why you can hear it's an analog circuit. The peak frequencies in a mathematical model of basic soundwaves like tri, saw, sqr are are nearly delta pulses with next to no horizontal width. Analog osc are so unstable and have such a low quality (in the physical sense of the word) you have a wide frequency range around the peak. Hence you have much more energy in the output signal esp. in the bass low frequency region. Obviously modern VAs with ACB can simulate that quite good now.
once again... Dr Nick san....brings us the nice goods.....hopefully this thing starts selling by summer of 2019 ?? as usual....behringer style....
Really cool stuff, excellent demo, djinn was different when i played. Massive thumbs up
got one from a disgruntled ex owner from ebay brand spanking new near enough.
loads of fun noises are going to be had out of this synth i know without a doubt.
at the moment just jamming with it till i get the feel for it quirks, into my loops
put it as a foundation noise maker wet cement at this moment but there are interesting
squeak's and squawks that i've dug out of this machine there to be found
Was looking into either the MS20 or the M-32, look like I won't be getting either. This does what I wanted plus more for almost half the price
Have you tried the audio in? I was thinking of getting dedicated Polivoks type filter like Erica Synths' Acidbox or Elta's Polivoks filter clone, but this filter sounds interesting and for the same price it's also an incredible sounding synth. How is it for processing external signals?
Oh and the bucket brigade delay is a sweet perk!
busyak Yeah, that's what I wonder about. With the MIDI clock LFO sync, I could be processing drum loops though that fantastic filter AND using this for the great synth sounds. So glad I got my pre-order in yesterday. I'm excited to try running guitar and bass guitar through this, too.
This synth must be from Manchester, as it has stolen 300 quid from my wallet.
You must be mixing up Manchester with Liverpool. That's where all the scallies are
In Limerick you get stabbed first.
In Limerick you come to a gunfight with a knife lol
Luke Kage - well you say that, have you ever googled "crime rates per UK region", West Yorkshire, Cleveland, Greater Manchester are the top 3. Merseyside is 10!
I suppose you would compare a small place like Rugby with London as well? Manchester has a larger population and is a bigger city. Liverpool doesn't include it's surrounding areas whereas Manchester does hence City of Manchester and Greater Manchester
Throughout the review: yep, this sounds good. With the final, little demo: THIS soouuunds GOOOOOD!
For 300 notes the neutron seems like awesome value, not because it is inexpensive but what it offers sonically for the spondulicks. It reminds me of dreadbox in terms of offering different sounding quality oscillators than the usual average fair. Not all oscillators are created equal! It may fit a modular rack but having extra modular space means I could have the Neutron and buy more modular racks, - not that I have G.A.S. you understand? At this price point I may have to rethink purchasing a bass station II. It goes without saying that I always enjoy your demos, perhaps I need to?
Thanks for sharing! This one might become my first Behringer synth. Although red is really not my color ☺️
Neutron: have it, like it! But (when) will you review the new 2600? I look forward to that!!!
When we can get hold of one. Mr B wont send us one.
Just ordered a Neutron finally! Right now, i have Behringer's D on the bottom row of my Arturia 6U case. It's cool their Model D can fit in a eurorack case but i'm ready to swap it out for the Neutron. It'll sit wonderfully with my other modules. Can't wait to hear it through the Pico DSP reverbs!
Get it yet ?
Oh yes! I was looking for a gnarly modular bass synth and that journey is over now. Nick is absolutely right... This thing produces monster bass! Plus the patch bay has all the right inputs & outputs and begs for modular integration. In other words, i love it. Highly recommended for people that want to start their modular journey or synth enthusiasts that want massive bass.