My beloved Bertie, the chief tester, passed away two weeks ago, a month before his 18th birthday. I am devastated; he was the most wonderful, loving, gorgeous, funny and gentle companion you could ever ask for. His beautiful twin brother Percy is still very sick, and his grieving is heartbreaking. He hasn't meowed since Bertie died and was, until then, the loudest, most vocal cat I've ever known. All the cats got sick from an E.Coli outbreak in their urine. Because of this, they shed the feline herpes virus. It's been a terrible time, and the vet bills have been utterly crippling. Some very kind people set up a GoFundMe to help me cover the bills to date and the ones to come. If you can help at all, I would be eternally grateful. Thank you. gofund.me/1991562c
I am so sorry for your loss. I lost my cat last year in July from cancer and I have five other ones they really miss him, I really appreciate what you’ve done because both my mom and I are not buying a robot litter thing, I can’t help financially because we’re very poor but if you take a teaspoon of vinegar, or 1/4 of a vitamin C pill crushed up into their cat food, wet cat food and give them a spray of propolis throat spray, it will help him to fight the virus themselves. My cat muffin has tooth problems, and usually when cats have tooth problems, they stop eating, but I got the stuff for her and her appetite came right back but it specifically so her immune system can fight back if my cats have a UTI or infection a teaspoon of vinegar in there, canned food always makes them feel better or the vitamin C
There’s a guy called veterinary secrets on TH-cam and I have thoroughly researched him and like done my due diligence because my cats mean the world to me even though I’m kind of poor, he has been very helpful. He has his own book and I checked as to why he had his license removed, and he kept basically speaking out about companiesthat were costing people so much money and the animals weren’t getting help. He’s something to look into for future reference.
Last last comment, I would speak to your vet and ask them about using this along with non-alcoholic, witch hazel As I’m guessing if it’s herpes It probably affects their skin it’s very skin soothing to cats
My jaw dropped when you tried it for the first time and it INSTANTLY crushed the plush. No hesitation, no safety release, nothing. This should be illegal.
This is illegal. A product should be safe by design. But there is just no supervision on these kind of machines. Same goes for clothing, electric vehicles,. A lot of shit is being sold without any safety standards.
The issue is it isn’t illegal since all the cheap clone machines are made in china which has no laws about protecting pets or manufacturing cat guillotines. No idea why they can’t ban their importation to the US.
@@Pacman009 I suspect they are illegal to sell as Amazon does, but the government is unlikely to take note; they're far too busy making sure no yellow multimeters or blackcurrants make it through.
I mean, it should be, and it probably is. Except not where they actually make them, and the dropshippers who sell this don't care, since they're scammers and thus just evil in the first place, and neither do the places that host their shops (we're mostly talking Amazon, really) since they're amoral moneygrubbers who have their "we're not actually the sellers" as a legal fig leaf. Not much to be done except maybe make this a scandal so that it breaks through the by-design malaise around regulating big business and gets actually regulated like "no, Amazon, you're actually responsible for the things you sell".
What accountability would you expect from these Chinese companies and from Ali Express or even Amazon? They have no problem selling you something toxic or deadly.
@@hansmikesen6355 It should not be a requirement to do extensive research on every single physical good you buy to make sure they aren't deadly in shockingly inept and negligent ways that are not readily apparent. Why in the world would you ever defend this sort of thing? Get a grip.
@@hansmikesen6355 I can't imagine my sister or old mother with zero engineering skills to do research about machine safety and design. They would look at all these amazing hitech magic pictures with sensors and stuff, see many reviews, see hundred of 5 stars, no negative, read positive reviews that are on top and say, people like it, it must be good.
This genuinely made me cry. I lost my kitty last year from a piece of furniture that her head got caught in. The lady describing how she woke up and had to search for her brought me back to that feeling of dread. It is so so tragic to lose pets to accidents. It was almost a year ago and I still have nightmares and panics attacks over it especially when I can’t find my current kitty for a few minutes.
I’m so sorry for your loss. A similar incident happened to my in-law’s cat…a recliner. Unfortunately, the cat was killed. That was a horrible accident. These litter box deaths are no accident. Completely tragic that this company is still selling this death trap. Wishing you safe, happy & healthy days ahead. Oh, I cried too. 😢
I told my boyfriend he has to promise me that every time he runs the dryer, he will close the door, THEN go and make sure he makes eye contact with both of my cats to ensure they are not in the dryer, before he runs it, because I knew a family who killed a cat by accident that way. It hurts me to even think about.
@@Velereonics I’m so sorry. That happened to a friend’s cat. They had a dryer that was built into the wall in the master bedroom & the cat jumped in to lay on the warm blankets. She fell asleep underneath one of the blankets but they were still damp, so her teenage son turned the dryer back on, not knowing that Snowball was in there. It was so tragic.
That horrified me, too. Why would you ever make a machine like this that had a powerful enough motor than a full grown man would have difficulty freeing his hand from it, knowing cats would be interacting with it daily?
Even more worrying. What if you have a toddler. There's no chance a baby could remove their hand by themself and not getting serious injury if not broken hand/finger.
@@PixieoftheWood thats the scariest part. knowing that it could happen to any cat that uses this litterbox ANYTIME. Im just praying the people who use this litterbox find this video before something happens to their babies and immediately throw it out :(
As a software developer, I have something to add. Even if they fixed it with the firmware update, that is not sufficient. I have seen several prior bugs in software be reintroduced by a seemingly unrelated change. And I doubt this company has a good quality control system to mitigate this. There is a very high chance that a future firmware update could make this machine deadly again. My stance is, no self cleaning litter machine is safe if it has the mechanical potential to kill a cat, no matter the firmware shipped or provided.
Absolutely, there should be physical mechanisms to prevent it from using enough force to hold anything in place. Either a mechanism that completely disables the motor and or something that allows the rotating pieces to spin freely (that a cat would then push away from and be freed). A simple software update does not get rid of the fact that these need to be recalled and replaced
Even just a slip clutch would've helped here, made it so if any sort of resistance was on the motor output it'd have a physical slip instead of needing software to detect this and stop itself. But even then, I'd never trust a system designed in this way, as slip clutches can fail too.
@@ultimatums1QA is supposed to be a separate person’s job from the software developer. That way if the developer is bad it is caught and bad software doesn’t go out and the dev can be let go.
The footage of the cat getting caught in the machine was terrifying, you can easily imagine how the death is slow and incredibly painful. Amazon selling these i'm not surprised.
Amztoy needs to be held accountable, and be fined a appropriate amount. Millions, or maybe even every last penny they have so they go bankrupt. And do the same with every other brand selling the same kind of litterbox
That poor woman who settled... she thought she would be saving anyone else from having to go through this again, and instead she was silenced and the box is still being sold.
It's time for people to realize their lives are trivial, compared to the profit corporations can get. She couldn't win when there is a ridiculous instruction like "Don't use it unsupervised".
It's not just being sold, it's probably being sold by the same people. Drop-shippers can change their names easily, and some even have multiple names so they can cover searches with their products. That's why, when you put in a search for something on Amazon, a bunch of weirdly named companies show up, all with the exact same photos of the exact same product.
@@suzanneglover3146 agreed, I guess maybe we'll all just need to continue putting pressure on Amazon that this style of robot cat litter machine must be tested by a consumer safety agency before sale, or not be listed at all. In the meantime just get on the reviews and tell others of the dangers. If Amazon takes them down we deliver to this TH-cam person for follow-up.
I sent the video to several o my local news stations and animal welfare facilities to hopefully gain momentum in spreading awareness of this dangerous machine
@@Schneewittchen1310 Not enough. Most cat owners are likely not going to be watching youtube videos, rather looking at the news. This NEEDS to be picked up by a major news outlet, this is outrageous.
This was one of the hardest things to watch but I felt I had to to continue to give it the boost in visibility it deserves and I’m commenting for the same reason. I’m absolutely bawling. This video will save lives.
Damn, even the stuffed-animal test is horrific. Mochi and Charlie deserved so much better from the designers of this machine and shame on everybody who let this get into the hands of consumers!
ngl i thought the stuffed animal test was both funny and horrific because the sound of the machine being stuck sounded like the stuffed animal was screaming
@@wellIhavenothingbettertodo theyre spread across a lot of different companies which come and go, finding the source of the machine is likely very difficult, and theyre likely not based in america and suing companies from other countries rarely results in winning the lawsuit due to differing laws in diffierent countries, especially countries with few animal cruelty laws like china, where the machines likely come from.
@@OneManFiveCats I'm not seeing it here on youtube, it's mostly on instagram, where I never seen a litter box ad before, and now I'm getting temu ads for this model of the video.
@@OneManFiveCats Yeah, sadly, that’s how the algorithms work when logging your user data. Most of the advertisements people will get after watching this will be for the cheap knockoff models because your devices heard the word affordable, litter robot, a bunch of brand names, and other related things pointing to the dangerous knockoff a good few times. Google (the parent company of TH-cam) profiles you and collects data from everything you do. Whether you get ads for the real litter robot or not can be highly dependent on what they’ve profiled you as based on your searches, answers to surveys, and usage data. If they’ve decided you’re likely lower income, they’ll market the cheaper knockoffs more because they know you’ll be less hesitant about the price; they may try the real one but are far less likely to push it as hard as the cheap alternatives. They don’t care what they’re advertising; as long as they’re making money, they could care less if it kills your pet. It’s just awful. Edit: grammar
That's not even a litterbox at that point. That's a HORRIFIC mousetrap for cats. That company needs to be shut down and all sales must be tracked and returned ASAP.
@@anneelk9066 If they're talking about the metal ones that snap shut, they are. The close with so much force the mouse dies instantly from having its neck broken
I watched your videos before buying an automatic litterbox, and man am I glad I did. One thing that really stuck with me was "Get one where your cat can never be in danger", like a rotating one where the exit never gets covered. This really helped me choose a litterbox that is safe and I can trust my cats with. I honestly can't imagine finding my cat dead stuck in the litterbox, I'd never forgive myself... That's like letting your kid play with a loaded gun... I also really don't respect the choice of those people to remove their review for some money... I'd much rather warn everybody out there than have a few extra bucks. Money won't bring your beloved cat back, but your review may help save other cats. Hell, I would've spammed Amazon customer support that any litterbox like this should be banned, I'd be calling the news, things like this can't stand... Thank you for informing people what's safe and what isn't. After this, I hope you'll never give a litterbox that doesn't keep the opening completely clear at all times a passing rate (not sure if you did or not). Sensors clearly are not an acceptable way of keeping cats safe. Edit: God, the horror of having your kid call you that your cat is stuck in that machine...
She thought they were taking it off their store, which is why she accepted the settlement. If they were the actual producer of the litter box, having the entire product removed would be way more efficient in making sure nobody buys these than putting up an Amazon review.
It’s also worth noting that not everyone has the ability to spearhead stuff like this. Lawsuits are expensive, they’re unlikely to recover their costs. Even if they do, it won’t bring back their cat, but boy will every moment of dealing with it bring memories of your cat back, along with that moment. If it gets as far as depositions, you’ll be up against lawyers who will spend a full day making you feel like the worst person they’ve ever met (and they are lawyers, who know other lawyers!) because breaking you down until you misspeak can give them a point to work on to toss the case out (“even the plaintiff agrees that they were too irresponsible to have done ‘x’, and that the manufacturer could not have foreseen ‘y’”). Sometimes you just need to put this sort of thing behind you. And it’s totally fair for them to not know how whitelabel wholesale markets work, nor does it matter, the company could swear to never make another one ever, hand the ownership of the company over, re-incorporate and still turn around and go right back to it 19 minutes later and there isn’t anything you can do. There’s no shame in not trying to be the person that saves the world.
As a disabled person, I am seriously considering an automatic litter box. This is VERY important information. I've been wary of automatic litter boxes due to the concern it could be unsafe.
Just make sure you save up and get a safe one! This fella's channel has very thorough reviews that should help you pick. Please don't let terrible companies tarnish what is an incredible accessibility tool for cat owners.
I've found a lot of idiots will claim that cats will be safe from various dangers because they have a good sense of "self preservation", I always tell them "then you've clearly never owned many, if any, cats. Or if you have, you weren't paying any attention."
My sister's cat burned his tummy fur because he walked over a candle despite the fact he had just made a face right before when he realized the little light was hot, that fecker knew and still walked over it. I even had the candle up where he doesn't go and he went out of his way to get up on the counter to check it out once lit.. These fur balls only use their brain cells to frustrate humans, not to keep themselves alive.
And what about elderly or disabled cats? A cat can feel unsafe and still not be able to protect themselves or escape a dangerous situation. My friend has a cat with cerebellar hypoplasia (wobbly cat syndrome) that can't maintain balance and has tremors and uncontrolled muscle movements. By that logic, he should have just not safety-proofed his home for that cat and let her die in a stupid, preventable accident because apparently she has magic cat spidey senses! That's such a load of crap.
@@starofgalaxies reminds me of that one gif where a dog and a cat got into a disagreement next to a candle, dog backed off when he saw the cat's tail catch fire, cat stopped and stared at its tail for a few seconds before running away from the candle [thankfully, cat moved fast enough to whip the flames off its tail but still]
As a software developer, i can share the same expert opinion that some others have shared: Software is not an acceptable safety measure. The hardware should be inherently safe; because sensors will degrade over time to the point that the software cannot reliably perform safety functions. If safety is preconditioned on correctly behaving software, you've already lost. Do not ever trust software, and especially not with actual real lives! If you have one of these machines, you should update it to the most safe software available just in case, followed by THROWING IT OUT AND NEVER USING IT AGAIN. You absolutely cannot trust that this machine is nonlethal after that update, even if it feels safer at first glance!
As a software developer; I cosign this 100% You don't implement safety in software. You can augment existing safety measures; but the fact that the physical design of the machine is dangerous means the machine is dangerous. Full stop
There are ways to make safety-critical software, but it is an extremely involved and expensive process that no consumer products company would ever endure. Hardware safeties are much simpler and are "open-source" by nature so they can be validated externally by users and reviewers.
@@adrianahlz1895 Honestly? Given that the alternative is human-operated vehicles, which are not shown to be significantly safer, I do think that question is entirely different. The logical conclusion of my previous stance and the fact that humans are at least equally dangerous is that we should never make self-driving cars, and also get rid of human-operated cars too. I do think this would be a good future, provided those resources can be invested in e.g. public transit. Banning cars works for me. If we must have cars, then I do think unsupervised self-driving cars would be quite scary. The current state where they require constant human supervision is acceptable; because ultimately that software is not safety critical or advertised as such. The human can override it at any time, and the human is responsible for ensuring the safety of everyone on the road, including themselves and their passengers. That being said, I would never dare to write code for an actual autonomous vehicle that will be on public roads; for one I don't have relevant experience for that field (so basically your question boils down to asking some catgirl her politics) and for two I should not be trusted in writing code that has the potential to end lives. no skilled software developer wants to do that, so it takes a truly special mind to write safe code. or sometimes, a truly careless author to write lethal code. most are neither. Fully unsupervised self-driving cars are scary, and maybe they'll never come. To be clear, I do think banning cars is the best output of this equation, but I don't think a future without cars on the road is foreseeable. In that case, both humans and software sucks. The next best thing is to just get software that sucks less than humans. This judgement is borrowed from CGP Grey, who basically states that yes, autonomous vehicles will still be dangerous and cause injury to people, they won't be perfect, of course not. But they don't *need* to be perfect because they're not competing against perfection. Humans are very dangerous and if self-driving cars can be shown to be reliably safer than humans within a significant margin, then I do think it would be beneficial to phase out human drivers entirely, eventually. Watch his video for some more thoughts on this, which has significantly influenced my opinions on self-driving cars.
Not only does it kill your cat, it also makes these creepy screeching noises. It's straight out of a horror movie about rouge machines. If anyone saw this happening they would be traumatized for life.
I'm willing to bet that creepy screeching noise is the gears of the motor grinding whilst it tries to force the door shut. Instead of...y'know...the pinch sensor doing its job and telling the motor to reverse.
The creepiest part is, during the orange plush test towards the beginning, the screeching sound before becoming more mechanical sounds kind of like a cat crying.
That photo with the bloody paw/claw marks made me sick to my stomach. I would be absolutely hysterical to find something like this had happened to my furry family members - I'm tearing up just thinking about it. Thank you for bringing this to people's attention, and thank you to those who have shared their horror stories, so that the danger of these products can be brought to light.
I was gagging as I watched his stuffy cat model for essentially decapitated by the test version. It’s the kind of reason I’m squicky about buying ANY of them (even the reliable ones).
That photo really broke my heart. It drives home how truly awful that cat's last moments were. Even more horrifying, imagine if a toddler tossed a toy in there, and then put their head in to get it out. How can these things even exist?
More people need to be seeing this video. It is genuinely terrifying that a grown man, prepared for this machine to pinch his hand, struggled that much to free himself. What if someone’s child got stuck? Those cats never even had a chance to free themselves and I have no clue how those parents explained to their two year old what happened.
This is why I shared this video to Facebook and LinkedIn - the only social networks I use: because I think everyone needs to see this video! As you say, it's not unsafe just for cats, it's unsafe for kids and adults too!🤦🏻♀️ Absolutely horrible product and whoever created it should end up in jail! 😡
@@theothertonydutch that’s an extremely inappropriate comment. That “harsh lesson” killed three different peoples pets and traumatized at least four humans, one of them being a child. You are downplaying how a two year old had to walk in on her beloved cat.
I think we have another safety hazard in this one. Humans. Can you imagine if a child had stuck their hand in there? If a full grown man, aware of what it does, could barely free himself. What chance does a child have? And heaven forbid the child stuck their head in there. If the parent didn't know how to rip it apart in seconds. These need to be REMOVED from sale!!
You're so right. This man's hand was literally getting crushed in that machine. My sis has a young one and they constantly stick their fingers into holes. This product would absolutely be a danger to them...
Exactly. I have three very young children and I know babies and toddlers are especially super curious and can get themselves into a situation in a matter of moments. I really hope anyone with children stays away from products like these.
Even a full grown person could get their head caught and their neck crushed in that ( not sure why an adult would need to do that, but people are weird)
I have a dog - fairly large at 50 lbs - who likes to steal from cat boxes and I can't even imagine how gutted I'd be if he got caught in this death trap. They're a danger to ALL pets, small children, unsuspecting adults...
I hope this gets subtitled in Chinese and other languages in Asia. Because I can see it being distributed in the small street stores there without people thinking about what they’re actually selling
i completely agree, as a chinese person myself this type and style of branding is what you see littered all over online markets. i really hope this gets spread there too as i'd bet money its being sold in china if not more so than here
@@OneManFiveCats that’s awesome. I’m glad they’re coming. I feel like if this went viral in China it would put more pressure on aliexpress and other companies to remove this design
@@yfllll Wait, can Chinese people even access TH-cam? I was under the impression there was some Chinese knockoff TH-cam. You know, because... Westerners talk about certain things China's government has done that they don't like. I guess Hong Kong and Taiwan might still be able to see it though.
This makes me SO UPSET. I couldn't imagine how devastated I'd be if my beloved cat, who's literally everything to me, was hurt or worse by a litterbox I purchased. This is a nightmare. I hope these owners get justice!
The only justice they can hope for is that these things are removed from sale so no other cat has to be lost. I also hope it sends to a message to these manufacturers to make sure future designs are safe.
@@OneManFiveCatslol I doubt these Chinese companies care. They'll just redesign the shell and vomit out the same product under Ehfhehvhwjvu or another brand name.
@antikommunistischaktion the country should ban the design. Or put an embargo on sales of these types of designs, if they're not going to hold the sellers liable for killing pets.
it is actually made by a Chinese company and for some weird reason they put an address on the Amztoy website I dont no if it is of a random address or if it is the company's address.
Not a cat owner but watched the whole video. Thank you for getting this message out there. I can’t imagine how horrifying it would be and I have no words for the companies that would put these on the market. Makes you wonder how the product recall process might be failing us as consumers. So instead I’ll save my words for the intro where you said some people say owning a self-cleaning litter box is lazy. What a crazy thing to say. Our lives are improved all the time by inventions and new approaches. If someone told me that I could spend 15 minutes cleaning a litter box OR this machine will do it for you and you can take that 15 minutes and sit on a comfy chair with a book, a cup of tea, and a cat curled up in your lap I know what I would pick every time. Time is our major non-renewable resource and unless those critics are taking their clothes out to a local stream to wash them by hand, they can just keep their thoughts on the value I place on my time to themselves. In fact, if they do take their clothes to the stream, I probably have a few questions for them instead 🙄
Recently, A cat feeder purchased by my father had clasped down on one of our kittens paws and my whole family had struggled to free her paw from the machine as she cried out in pain. Yes, my cat is alright. We'd been able to tear the machine apart in order to rescue her and she showed minimal damages other than a sore paw that caused limping for 2 days. I'm saddened that these kinds of off brand devices can even go so far as to unintentionally kill pets. I really wish that everyone who has this product disposes/returns it because these stories are heartbreaking. I still remember how I felt during that moment and I only hope that others get the relief I had when our kitten was safe.
Why is that possible in the first place? Either make the mechanism weak enough to not do damage, or make sure no paws can get stuck in them. Im so sorry your cat got hurt. Makes me angry that these things arent tested enough to find bugs like this. give him a good health pat :3
Same... I got a Peewee litter box, and the closest I get to automation is having my roomba clean up the bathroom floor after I've switched out the pellets.
My brothers cat passed by the same machine. (TW).He was an orange Persian,and 2 months old. His name was cheddar. When my brother found him,I was at his house. His body was on the floor,and his head was crushed inside. I thank you for spreading awareness about this.❤️
The fact they are only really available in the US is also another huge red flag. Anything only available in one market, ESPECIALLY the american market cannot be good. The amount of potentially dangerous products from over there is honestly terrifying
I lost a cat to a coyote years ago because I assumed it was safe to install "cat door " for my beloved Suki. Today, many years later, the horror of seeing her eviscerated body haunts me. I cannot even imagine finding my cat dead in a machine designed to make their life better. You have done an invaluable service to the cat owner community.
A self cleaning machine does everything BUT make their life better. A little more comfort of course, but personally my cats couldnt care less about a dirty litter box : they'd do it somewhere else anyway if it really bothers them. Also my fearful ahh cat would be terrified if the place he just pooped in started moving and making noises but i guess that's a me problem. Plus inspecting cat feces can help prevending deadly diseases.
That must've been so incredibly horrible, I can't even begin to imagine how difficult that was for you. Sending extra prayers/good vibes to your sweet Suki in kitty heaven.
Man I know how you feel. My cat got hit by a car, and seeing your buddy in that position, covered in bI00d is something I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy. So to buy a product like this, and to have a cat die in such a way in the comfort of YOUR own home, is just pure evil.
I'm so sorry for your experience, that's beyond tragic. I do want to say that you shouldn't blame coyotes, the predation pattern sounds much more like a mustelid like a weasel, or possibly a different small predator like a raccoon. People are quick to blame coyotes when there are tons of different predators out there
Was your cat killed outside or inside your home? If it was outside, that's on you for letting your cat go outside unsupervised. If it was inside, then again... why was your cat allowed outside unsupervised in the first place?
I just tried to find this video here, because I stumbled over it on reddit r/eddit and it wasn't easy to find by only the title alone. I guess something about the TH-cam algorithm and words like "kill" or deadly"? :/ It worked when I typed the name of the TH-cam channel as well.
Please reach out to @LouisRossmann as he has been tackling Amazon's bad behavior about dangerous goods. The more eyes on this, the safer we and our pets can be.
Some thoughts from someone who works in the sensor-embedded industry: 1. It is completely and utterly insane to even require a firmware update at all for the machine to be safe - I don't want to berate you for suggesting this is a fix, but to be absolutely clear: safety can never, ever be delegated to demanding people perform a firmware update, especially for the mass market. If you buy, IT SHOULD BE SAFE AT THE MOMENT OF BEING BOUGHT. Having firmware update capability can never, EVER excuse a product being actually dangerous. Strong MCAS vibes. 2. Safety-critical sensors should employ POSITIVE sanity controls. That is, the machine should CONSTANTLY CHECK itself for correct sensor behavior, and if at any point the sensing suite does not report appropriately, the machine should consider itself BROKEN AND STOP operating entirely until it is repaired. Yes, this does mean the machine will more easily stop working and enrage the user, but this is only if your sensor suite is garbage to begin with, in which case you should not be selling at all. 3. Sensors are microelectromechanical devices that can fail (this should almost never happen to good ones, but god knows what these companies are using). They should be used AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE for safety purposes, the REST OF THE DESIGN SHOULD BE INHERENTLY SAFE in every other possible way. You're not making an Abrams tank whose operators may as well be blown to bits by enemy missile fire, you're making a household objects used by the general consumer.
It’s what I said when after I updated the firmware, had I waste my time now it worked? I said no because it was shipped to me like this and to everyone else. Even right now, all those machines sitting in Amazon warehouses will not have the new firmware. With so many people who don’t use apps and with no warning that they need to update it, I had not wasted my time. Plus the physical design of it with that plastic fixed oval opening that closes off is beyond stupid if sensors do fail. There’s no physical or mechanical fail safe which there needs to be. That Popur waste bin lid cannot be opened by hand without breaking the motor. As soon as it closes the motor locks down. To open it you have to hold down the cycle button I believe. I don’t understand why the motor needs to lock down. It should be able to move backwards physically if a cat got in there and needed to lift it to get out. It’s just a bad design. When the Litter Robot 3 and 4 have sensor faults they stop working. The LR3 is notorious for pinch detectors failing generally due to corrosion from the fumes of urine clumps in the waste drawer. They should be made of a better material for sure, but they are only $6 to replace and will take a novice about 20 minutes to do with the instructional video from Whisker to do it. What’s utter madness is I’ve seen so many posts from people annoyed about it keep happening that they tape over the contacts to bypass them so the machine will work again, but without the pinch detectors. Utter madness. At least the pressure the motor exerts is low enough if a cat got caught in the waste drawer opening then wouldn’t get hurt and they should be able to free themselves. I tested the LR4 with the far superior pinch detectors disabled using my fist. It just felt like a light press and then it stopped, so I just removed my hand.
@@OneManFiveCats The thing about the LR3 (and possibly the 4) is that there is an additional safety already built in - the weight sensor. They made the weight sensor overly complicated (a poor design of variable pressure sensor) rather than the LR2 which had a foolproof on/off weight switch. If the weight sensor is tripped, then the unit should never even be running in the first place to NEED the pinch sensors. They ALSO added (stupidly) a continual resistance check against the "bonnet" light board - through those VERY dodgy side connectors. I have NINE of these LR3 units, and have disabled the pinch connectors AND taken that bonnet nonsense and put it entirely in the base. Why? Because intermittent trash connections should NOT be the source of "safety" if that is the goal! Make it sensitive enough (with a PROPER on/off idiot proof switch) that KNOWS when anything is onboard, and just never activate the motor then or stop it the instant the load changes. Yeah that makes it need a bit of an adjustable pressure spring, but that is WAY better than the existing VPS type they are using now.
@@OneManFiveCats I have 2 popurs and both waste bins (cardboard) can be very easily opened by hand...did not know it was an issue that they clamp shut for (most?) people? Had no idea.
I will say that Whisker's Litter Robot does follow these principles. Even as an owner if it's annoying every time there's a sensor issue the device doesn't function. But the alternative is worse, as seen by these knock off products
My stomach turned as many times as there are grains of sand while watching this. It's absolutely horrifying how they delete reviews about people's DEAD CATS that died because of their unsafe design.
Same, started sobbing seeing that stuffed animal get stuck in the machine, knowing a real, poor animal got stuck just like that. Even the hand test. Horrifying and so upsetting knowing a cat went through such a death
This is horrific. I'm a new cat owner, and I was more than happy to keep a litterbox for my girl so that she could live a long happy safe indoor life but nothing will ever make me more thankful to scoop it by hand every single day than this. Those poor beautiful angels. What a nightmare, for them and those that loved them.
One that is probably just a Chinese contractor that have no history in designing a pet product and is only in it to make a quick buck. For all we know that could've been an existing washing machine motor.
Doubt they actually had 500 horsepower. Could've been confused with a torque measurement (which would still be extremely high) or just a spelling error (highly likely if it was the seller saying that). I watched through most of the video, skimmed the rest, then re-skimmed looking for this number. Where is it in the video?
@@AttacMage i was being hyperbolic. I thought it would've been obvious given the fact that 500hp is enough to accelerate a couple ton car to 60mph in about 3 seconds. My point was that there was absolutely no reason to use a motor/gear reduction such that the litter box could also double as a guillotine.
Defected sensor or generic profit? This is a guillotine with human errors! I'm still having my litter house and shovel for almost 14 years, though I admit I DO want one of these for conveniences. Always do my research like this before purchasing. Thank you for bringing this up.
Wow, this is infuriating - cheaply made, mass-produced garbage that kills cats being sold under a bunch of different brands? Sketchy as hell; I'm glad somebody is doing due diligence, and reporting on this.
not to mention this preys on inexperienced or stressed cat owners who dont know what to look for and only go for something in their budget. If my baby didn't like her traditional box OR if i was injured again and couldnt clean after her..its a heartbreaking thought.
i didnt expect this to make me SOB but the idea of those cats having such a horrible death, and the thought of finding my babies that way... it's horrific. RIP to those sweet cats
Seeing that plushie get trapped and imagining it being a real cat made my heart drop and my stomach turn. Absolutely horrible, what an awful thing to happen to those poor cats and their owners. People need to know about this!
I watched it with my cat, and reminded him how good he’s got it. I’ve had a number of automatic units over the years, but never trusted anything that rotated on the Y-axis, so I guess we got lucky. Give yours an extra hug?
Thank you for sharing our sweet mochis story! Thank you for letting others know the dangers of certain litter boxes and what to look for. I had no idea what took look out for until unfortunately it was too late. Praying this reaches who it needs to! ❤❤❤
Amazon has become a cesspool of garbage products from China/Ali Express resellers. They usually have nonsensical names, or blatantly copy established products. It's race to the bottom for both pricing and quality. Fake reviews, or reviews that make no sense, on top of a loophole allowing items to be sold piggybacking an old inactive product with high rating. Please, look over what you're buying. If something happens to you, or your beloved pet, you'll be trying to sue Amazon, a company worth 1,798 trillion dollars, which is another way of saying you will be locked in court forever against lawyers costing thousands per hour and you will most likely lose. Or avoid buying from Amazon altogether, if you can help it.
I have the Amztoy litter box you showed in this video. THANK YOU! I called Amazon today and got a full refund. Will be disposing of this garbage and replacing it with a regular litter box.
I am so happy to hear this. Good riddance to it! Take a look at the Furrytail one I’ve linked in the description. It’s the best budget one you can get and it’s incredibly safe!
@@juleylikespandasThey have an option on their help page to get a phone call. I explained this video and how the listings even removed. Since it’s too large and I don’t have the box, they said to toss it out. Outside the return window too! The lady I talked to had cats so she was very understanding.
The fact that this man has spent his money, done research, and tested it with his own hands, to spread awareness of this machine. Oh how i wanted to cry when his hand was trapped, that itself proved that cats wouldn’t survive. Thank you so much for spreading awareness, I myself, have a cat, and I now will spread to other people about this “litter box”. I thank you very much of spreading this message to everyone and demonstrating of the risks of what could happen. Including that in my country there is also a big possibility of this also this existing. I just really really want to thank you since, I am a 9 year old girl with a grey persian cat that I really care about, and with this, my mother could’ve easily gotten this “litter box” of because our cat uses a traditional litter box which is very stinky. My cat is only 9 months and I would really be dreadful to hear if my cat died inside this hell-made monster “litter box”. ❤❤
Traditional cat box(es) should NOT be “stinky”if large enough, and if two are used (one for urine, and one for feces) with the appropriate amount of litter in them, and scooped 1 time a day.
This product should be blacklisted everywhere! This is horrifying! I was almost brought to tears just watching you test it on the plush! I cannot believe people have had to deal with the sight of their dead pet- a member of their family- being killed by one of these things.
Selling these is just CRIMINAL!!! What the hell were the designers thinking? ALL of them and the sellers should be held accountable. PURE CRIMINAL!!!!!!!
It's ridiculous that something with such a fatal design flaw can just keep being produced and sold even once it starts killing cats. The fact that it's a generic design being sold on several retail sites is horrifying. There is no accountability from the manufacturers, amazon just deletes the listing and puts another one up with a different name. Imagine if this were something geared toward human babies. Its bad enough that cats are being killed by these things, but it also proves amazon and other sites selling these things are willing to host a product that is dangerous and faulty.
@@an8thdimensionalbeing142 It also is a danger to kids. Children are naturally curious and below a certain age would certainly not think anything of sticking their hands or even head into the litter box opening.
This is absolutely horrifying, I dont know how they didn't realize this would result in a cat being hanged. Rest in peace to Charlie and Mochi, they'll be missed by their owners and everyone who came here to see this video.
This is worse than them not realizing. The fact that they intentionally delete comments on their videos talking about it means that they are aware of the danger and don't care
@@asdcdweadasd thats the truth here, they probably didnt. Saw there was a market for these, scrambled together some trash and shipped it off. Thats all there is to it sadly. Nowadays you really have to do a lot of research for stuff like this to make sure you dont buy a death machine
The test with the stuffed animal broke my heart. The continued closing and screeching noises… my heart breaks for the cats and owners who have fallen victim to these machines. Thank you for sharing this information.
This isn’t a litter box, that thing could be marketed as an automatic cat euthanasia machine! I was wondering why would anyone let that design get past the drawing board, then I remembered “oh yeah, China”…. 😒
@@davemccage7918 i agree that the machine's design is criminal & shouldn't have been passed, but why do you guys dislike china so much? my grandparents are immigrants from china & they hear comments like yours all the time. i just want to get where you guys are coming from :)
@@terikumo No one is saying bad things about Chinese people. We are discussing how China the country is associated with terribly designed and dangerous products due to the government of China the country refusing to regulate their industries. The CCP has repeatedly and definitively made it clear that they have no interest in making sure their industries consider the safety and health of foreign countries, they only focus on how much wealth can be extracted. If a US or EU country makes a dangerous product and sells it to a Chinese customer, that customer will have legal recourse in the country of origin. If a US or EU customer buys a Chinese product, the CCP will tell the customer to get bent if damages are suffered.
@@terikumoChinese people aren't the problem, Chinese standards are. It's not on the people, but on the government that refuses to implement safety measures and quality checks in favor of easy money... Chinese civilians are just as much a victim if not more, because even their homes and workplaces are built substandard and without safety mechanisms.
Great video. It's sad how a "small settlement" can change a review from being "killed my cat" to "Good machine" on amazon. The man with the litterbox robot videos with the best production values on the internet is now also a consumer advocate that used his own funds to purchase and test an unsafe one to get the word out! Bravo!
I understand why they accepted the settlement-- it's very hard if not impossible to sue some Chinese mystery company for anything. Whatever amount they got, it was probably the only way the victims could get any settlement at all. As Five Cats Man showed, he couldn't even return his deadly machine for a refund.
@@stellarobado4269 Also keep in mind that even if it weren't a foreign company, cats are regarded as property in many parts of the world, definitely the US, so the damages that you'd be able to recover aren't typically that much. Certainly not enough to change the way that the company is operating or to get them to make changes to the design. What's particularly bad about this is that it's not that hard to test to see what sort of pressure is being applied by the door on anything that gets trapped in there. Idiots have been using carrots to demonstrate what happens with the Tesla Cybertruck closes on them.
Why is money more important than helping other people (and saving other cat lives?). There’s NO excuse for accepting money in exchange for removing information that can help other people. I have zero sympathy for that woman, and all the sympathy in the world for her poor deceased cat.
I'm not a very emotional person. Not many things give me strong reactions. This video, however, was deeply, deeply distressing-and it should be. There should be no world where we are comfortable with such deep-rooted greed and deliberate negligence that it takes innocent lives. Thank you for making this video.
I cannot believe it. I started thinking about buying an automatic litter box one week ago. I never thought that it can be so dangerouse for cats when buying the wrong one. THANKS FOR SHARING.
Literally watched this and sobbed when I saw the stuffed cat...its head stuck inside, its body hanging from the machine...legit had to grab my cats and hold them...I thank god that I am able to care for my cats and have gotten them a litter robot 3....this breaks my heart..so fucking much, thank you so much for bringing awareness to this! Every cat owner NEEDS to see this!!!! I've shared it with all my cat owner friends!!!
from around 5:00 to 5:50. chapter is called "first test". I didn't think it would affect me this bad because it's just a stuffy, but it did. The sound it makes a well, I'm crying. there are multiple clips like this in the video, but that one was the worst
My heart is breaking for that poor woman. I truly hope that she and every other pet owner that has lost their pet due to corporate negligence takes legal action and gets justice for their poor babies :(
Here from Penguinz0’s video. Thank you so much for making this video and bringing awareness to pet owners. It’s devastating that a product like this is being sold to well-meaning cat owners. I appreciate the insight ❤
It absolutely breaks my heart to think about how terrifying that sweet kittys last moments were, and the clear bloody struggle on the bottom of the litter box makes me literally cry. NO cat should ever have to be killed like this in their own home, by something meant to improve their life, by something meant to comfort them, by something that is meant to be safe. Sweet kitty died alone, confused, scared, and painfully. I hope this sweet angel is having the best time in kitty heaven with lots of food, fun toys, and cozy beds.
Those poor, poor babies. Absolutely horrifying that these companies are already paying people to be silent about their death contraption. Thank you for spreading awareness of this.
@@marcodarko6941 💯 And not just her trauma, her 2 year-old also saw the gruesome scene. I wouldn't be surprised if she needed therapy after that, seriously speaking
They wouldn't have paid me off. Ask Australian Quarantine about the gamma irradiated imported Canadian food that paralysed my cat and 100 or so others back in 2009.
Cleaning my cat's litter boxes gives me valuable insights into their general health and well being. Poops too dry or runny, strong smelling concentrated urine... Stuff like that.
I don't normally comment very often, but this NEEDS to be pushed by the algorithm. As a cat owner, I could never even imagine losing my cats in such a horrific way. My heart goes out to all the people who lost their cats to this
Commenting to hopefully boost this comment. 100%, I couldnt even imagine that happening to one of my cats. Im not a queasy person, but I actually felt sick when it was demonstrated. Thats a good thing though, cause more people need to be aware of this, and people SHOULD feel uncomfortable about it. Its completely horrific that there are no regulations or accountability. At the very least hoping to share this around for awareness, and in the best scenario, preventing people from getting these
Well, I dont have a cat, I havent seen any videos about cats, and this video was in my feed, definetly the algorithm is working. I am going to shared this video to my friends who owns a cat or want a cat. I hope this will help save many lives.
I had two beautiful cats and 1 dog. They all had long happy lives, especially my baby pheobe, she was 25. She died 5 years ago now, and only just the other day did I begin to think I could commit to having a cat again because to this day my heart is broken. I’ve started doing research on all the best toys and gadgets and everything for my future cat, and had my eye on the litter robot 4 myself, but tbh after seeing this, I’m not sure I have the bravery to have any kind of litter robot now. This video brought me to tears and it’s absolutely heartbreaking that this is even a thing. Even if the litter box 4 is the best, are any of them truly 100% safe, as a non self cleaning one would be? I guess not. It makes me think I don’t even want to take the risk. Thank you so much for making this video and I pray these companies go bankrupt and get what’s coming to them
Absolutely disgusting. And the fact that these companies were just refunding or paying off the people who had their cats killed…. No amount of money can bring your loved pets back due to gross negligence 😢 glad you’re bringing light to this and that some of these listings have been removed
5:20 really freaked me out, I said out aloud “that’s DISGUSTING” A creepy noise, killing your cat while it is trapped in that position and being unable to breath is absolutely terrifying and EVIL Thankyou for making this video man, let’s boost this video!
@@partysuviusI’m actually so grateful to see this video and want to cry typing this. I almost bought this exact design about a month ago, didn’t have the extra cash due to bills so I said I would wait. Boy am I glad I waited because my Cat would be gone.
Hello. Brand new subscriber here! Just want to thank you for all of your research and informative videos on automatic litter boxes! I started my search recently and ended up on your site. After all of your reviews and then stating that you use the Litter Robot 4 for your babies, my decision was made and I just ordered one for my babies! I also have five, but can only afford one box for now so I’ll have to keep a couple traditional boxes handy. Hopefully they’ll Al choose the Litter Robot and I won’t have to scoop as much (preferably not at all!) in the future. 😊 Thanks again! And I made sure to put you as the reason for purchasing when it asked during my checkout! Hopefully that helps you somehow! Thank you again! Much appreciated!
Pretty disgusting that they are simply rebranded and continue to sell them. For anyone who wants to take some form of action, you can use the link in the description to access the amazon links and use the "Report an issue with this product" button and declare it unsafe. The button is found under the description on the product page. Unsure how effective this is, but the more reports then the more likely the products will be looked at. Thanks for the video and spreading awareness!
They don't care about our pets. All they care about is money and profit. Nowadays barely anyone really cares about pet/human heath. This is so sick. We should drag them to court for this terrible machine. That's not a litter box that'sliterally a guillotine. If a person can't even give 5 minutes front 24 HOURS of a day to take care of their cats, they shouldn't have one.
There’s literally thousands of “brands” like this on Amazon. They buy generic crap, slap an auto generated brand name on it, and sell it until the listing goes down for one reason or another, rinse and repeat.
@@BrietheCattIt’s hard to stop drop shipped garbage, but we should still try. I wish there was a more effective way of doing it. Amazon should require areal human being to review products put up so someone can’t just relist/rebrand dangerous products.
These sorts of experiences would be horribly traumatic for the children who discovered their beloved kitties dead in this way. I’m almost in tears just thinking about it!
Oh my good that poor daughter, the horror she must have felt trying to save her little kitten. That’s so sickening, I can only imagine the sheer panic she felt as she called her mum
Thank you so much for making this video. I just wrote an email to our national consumer protection organisation here in Germany, where I explained to them the points you make in your video. I also included a link to this video so that they can see, for themselves, how dangerous those products are. So again, thank you so much for this video, I hope it will lead to our consumer protection organisation issuing a warning to customers in Germany and thus saving the lives of our furry friends.
I've been thinking about buying my cat an auto litterbox for a while now. The thought that I could have unknowingly ordered one of these and would have gotten my baby killed had I not watched this video, absolutely terrifies me. A very scary thought. Thank you for what you're doing, and I'll definitely be back to watch more of your videos so I can decide on a good one to buy for him!
@@Komyromy remember when looking at reviews you can’t trust them. As this video shows people will change there review to say it’s a good product if you offer them a small amount of money, even if it did squish there cat to death
Thank you for making this. I was upset with my older litter robot not working and throwing errors and thought of replacing it with a cheaper model. I was brought to tears hearing the stories of those poor families. Litter robots only for us
I'm not a cat owner but a lot of my friends and coworkers have cats so I'm commenting for the algorithm. This video is important and it should be spread and seen by as many cat owners (and their friends) as possible.
When the machine clamped up on that plushie, that noise was terrible! I can't imagine that being the last thing a living being had to hear. Poor babies, I'm so glad this video is spreading out
This is so disturbing and awful. I can't believe this death trap is allowed to be sold. I have 2 cats but don't like self-cleaning litterboxes. I work from home and am fine cleaning the litterbox myself several times a day. After watching this, I would not let my cats anywhere near any self-cleaning litterboxes, even if they are supposed to be safe. Something can always go wrong and they also just look very uncomfortable for cats to use the bathroom in.
This is awful. I can't believe someone would design a litterbox this way! It's essentially a guillotine. Thank you for this informative video... it was horrific to watch, but SO important to be aware of. I feel sick. My heart aches for the families who lost their beloved kitties to this death trap of a machine.
You don't even need sensors, A spring loaded clutch plate or pulley would do the job. Granted, it can be difficult to engineer something that's going to protect against a small cat getting stuck, but it's not really that hard or expensive. They clearly didn't even bother to test this as it's one of the easier eventualities to test for.
Even better they could have designed it not to have an opening which gets closed during the cleaning cycle. That way there’s nothing to trap the cat under any circumstances
@@molybdomancer195The most recent version of the Litter Robot actually has no door at all, it just rotates on one axis. My family owns one and we actually don’t smell anything even after the cat’s used it. It also moves fairly slow, meaning it doesn’t kick up litter dust. Personally, I’d just get one without a door. A door means more sensors and more places for safety controls to fail.
One idea I had to try and make it safer; a bigger opening, pieces that pop off if something gets stuck as a just in case, and a MANUAL door. Like, on hinges. To start the cleaning cycle, just CLOSE THE DOOR MANUALLY. If no cats OR children/other animals or parts were detected, the door would lock and start the process. If something WAS detected, the machine would beep for a few minutes (loudly so that people can hear it and get whatever’s in there out) and NOT start the cleaning process until whatever was in there is removed. I feel like that could greatly reduce the risk of cats getting caught in the door because it had motors that were too powerful, because there would be NO MOTORS in the door itself except for the lock, and in the box to clean it, and even then, those are WEAK motors.
I just started shopping for an affordable automatic litterbox, and I'm so glad youtube suggested this video to me. The model I had decided to buy isn't exactly the same as these, but it does rotate on the same axis and the interior can become completely enclosed. I can't imagine finding one of my cats in that situation. I feel so bad for Carli and her kitty.
Shame on any company that does not do their due diligence around safety features. Thanks for bringing awareness about these dodgy machines. I would be devastated if my cat met an early life due to company greed and shady practices.
The company does not care about the animals it hurt. Just like in game development. Companies do not test anymore, they release the product and test it on the consumers who buy it. It there are no problems it passed the test. If it didn't and animals die or get hurt? Oops. The executives probably make mean jokes about it.
What gets me is that there are several ways this sort of thing could be avoided. The cheapest being to use nylon gears engineered to place a limit on how much force can be applied to the mechanism. The neck is always going to be kind of delicate, but weaker gears would probably do the job. This is also a situation where using a flywheel to drive it or adding a sensor to indicate that the door has come into contact with something would do the job as well. I'm sure there are a bunch of other ways of doing this, but this sort of thing is why engineers generally get certified before practicing in many parts of the world. This was completely foreseeable and completely avoidable.
@@SmallSpoonBrigadethere's multiple ways past that too. First, don't have a solid ring for the entrance, next, monitor the draw on the motors. If it spikes, make it back off and stop. This kind of sensing technology has been in garage doors for many years. It's unexcusable that this was pushed to market with that kind of flaw.
I don't even use self-cleaning litter boxes, but decided to watch this out of curiosity since I have 4 cats. I'm literally in tears right now! This breaks my heart so much to imagine the pain and fear these cats went through. These companies are disgusting!
Just thinking about if my family ever gets this, (which they WONT because ill tell them to not buy any of these machines) then seeing my cat just dead from the machine, I just CANT think of it! It makes me so sad!
I have 2 cats, never thought about buying an automatic litter box, and I don’t plan on watching this video. I just can’t bring myself to it, the thought of people talking about THEIR kitties being horribly killed by a machine, no, I just can’t… but I would like the video and comment to feed the algorithm; more cat people NEED to know about this… I know is tedious, kinda time consuming and sometimes gross to clean the litter box, but I take scoop poop and urine balls for a million years than seeing (or find) my babies being decapitated or crushed to death ( as comments mention) without any posible way of helping them…. NO, JUST NO, I hope the poor cat tutors of this babies find solace and just THANK THEM for sharing this devastating stories to shed light on this topic for the sake of saving other kitties lives and spare the owners of experiencing such a traumatic experience…l how horrible 😞
The test with the banana made me feel sick, the way it took multiple “pushes” for it to even actually break it fully. The thought of a cats neck stuck there, first being crushed, then snapped, and only after, what, 15-30 minutes, being fully killed, that is, if they dont bleed out by then? Disgusting. I wish could say i cant believe these people, but this is the exact thing i expect from companies. Never believe that a company, no matter how well-reviewed, only has your best interest at heart. Of course, some products are genuinely good and fully succeed at the task, but in the end, it’s just because being good is profitable. Thank you for making this, praying no more babies are lost to this disgusting machine, that they arent produced anymore, and that Mochi can at least be a martyr and not just a tragedy in vain. Sending all the love to her mama, she’s so strong for sharing so quickly, even with how obviously hard it was for her to make that video, and so soon after it happened, it’s incredibly noble to want it out there asap so as many cats can be spared as possible.
I know right the TikTok ladys poor cat must have been in so much pain no cat should ever go through it makes me sick that the people making these things knows its killing cats but stills sells them its truly awfull
That is terrifying! My heart breaks for the loss of these innocent cats lives…needlessly. Unreal. I’ve always been afraid to get a robot litter box for my cat. Do your research when purchasing. That’s all I can say. Thank you for doing this investigation & posting your findings. Hopefully, you saved even one innocent cat’s life. 🐾❤️🐾
Had my hands over my mouth... I wanted to cry. Seeing it continue to close until GRINDING its mechanisms loudly at the resistance was f***ing horrifying )':
@@christinacody8653 And thankfully penguinz0/Charlie covered this video today so it has reached an even wider audience, the news will continue to hopefully spread 🙏
This is such a fantastic PSA! I’m disabled and on a limited income, so the idea of a cheaper automatic litter box is, on the surface, quite appealing. Your research into this has possibly saved the lives of my cats, and me from the years of heartbreak I know I would suffer if one of my angels were to be harmed in such a contraption. Thank you so much for your work!!
This!^^ these kinds of things prey in people in bad places already, who are lower income, disabled, or older, and want to give their cats a cleaner litter box, which only causes more devistation (not saying that ppl who are doing well dont love their animals, but often someone's pet might be the only good thing in their life). This video is informational and explanitory in a way that not many actual psas manage!
He has many videos reviewing good automatic litter boxes, you should check them out! If possible I'd suggest saving for an highly reliable one even if it's expensive, I'm sure it'd be worth it.
Jesus Christ. I was already sick enough, but the test with the plush cat brought tears to my eyes. What a horrifically harrowing ten seconds. I genuinely don’t think I can watch the rest of this video, but I wanted to comment for the algorithm and leave it to play in full with my earbuds out. Thank you - this video could save lives.
Same, I always leave these videos in advance because I don't have the strength to finish it. Charlie's video and even some other content creators' videos too. I only clicked on it to help with the algorithm and let the video runs the first few minutes while I look at the comment.
As someone with ADHD to the point of forgetting to eat, I’ve always wanted a self cleaning litter for my cats. I love them dearly and I don’t want my mental state to dictate their cleanliness, they deserve a clean litter box. I’m so thankful for videos like these and so many others showcasing this horrible company. This needs to stop! We need safe, vet approved machines that won’t decapitate our cats 😭 I would never buy from cheap sites like temu or aliexpress, they’re always dump quality and they break so easily, sometimes even creating plastic shards that can harm animals. Utterly disgusting. I urge everyone to avoid these sites altogether, they’re a waste of money
Speaking as a person with adhd who experiences the same struggles, I do recommend getting the litter robot from whisker themselves. I put my 2023 tax refund toward one, and it has completely changed my life for the better. I have a litter robot 4 and use the official whisker app to track weights and use times. I know people with both the 3 and the 4. None of us have ever had any issues, though occasionally the machine gets dusty, or I have to reach in with a scoop to dislodge stubborn clumps. Sometimes, the trash liner gets inflated by trapped air and the sensor reads the drawer as fuller than it actually is. But otherwise, it has completely solved the problems I was having with cat boxes. ADHD, asthma, sensory issues, fibromyalgia, depression... These things would make it difficult for me to keep the box clean for my cats. Nowadays, I will catch my cats going into the bathroom, seeing it's cycling, and patiently waiting for their turn. My one cat (who was extremely skittish for over a month by its presence) will see it has been used (but not cycled yet) and choose to leave and return later to use it when it's clean. It's worth it to get the real deal. Don't settle for a cheap knockoff like these.
@@ixeliema that was indeed my plan, once I actually manage to get a job (still a college student). These things are expensive but so worth it, i really hope I can afford it soon 😊
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My beloved Bertie, the chief tester, passed away two weeks ago, a month before his 18th birthday. I am devastated; he was the most wonderful, loving, gorgeous, funny and gentle companion you could ever ask for.
His beautiful twin brother Percy is still very sick, and his grieving is heartbreaking. He hasn't meowed since Bertie died and was, until then, the loudest, most vocal cat I've ever known.
All the cats got sick from an E.Coli outbreak in their urine. Because of this, they shed the feline herpes virus. It's been a terrible time, and the vet bills have been utterly crippling.
Some very kind people set up a GoFundMe to help me cover the bills to date and the ones to come. If you can help at all, I would be eternally grateful. Thank you. gofund.me/1991562c
I would reach out to Charlie if you can, since he made a video on this one he might be willing to broadcast your go fund me like he did Karl jobst’s
I am so sorry for your loss. I lost my cat last year in July from cancer and I have five other ones they really miss him, I really appreciate what you’ve done because both my mom and I are not buying a robot litter thing, I can’t help financially because we’re very poor but if you take a teaspoon of vinegar, or 1/4 of a vitamin C pill crushed up into their cat food, wet cat food and give them a spray of propolis throat spray, it will help him to fight the virus themselves. My cat muffin has tooth problems, and usually when cats have tooth problems, they stop eating, but I got the stuff for her and her appetite came right back but it specifically so her immune system can fight back if my cats have a UTI or infection a teaspoon of vinegar in there, canned food always makes them feel better or the vitamin C
There’s a guy called veterinary secrets on TH-cam and I have thoroughly researched him and like done my due diligence because my cats mean the world to me even though I’m kind of poor, he has been very helpful. He has his own book and I checked as to why he had his license removed, and he kept basically speaking out about companiesthat were costing people so much money and the animals weren’t getting help. He’s something to look into for future reference.
Last last comment, I would speak to your vet and ask them about using this along with non-alcoholic, witch hazel As I’m guessing if it’s herpes It probably affects their skin it’s very skin soothing to cats
My jaw dropped when you tried it for the first time and it INSTANTLY crushed the plush. No hesitation, no safety release, nothing. This should be illegal.
This is illegal. A product should be safe by design. But there is just no supervision on these kind of machines. Same goes for clothing, electric vehicles,. A lot of shit is being sold without any safety standards.
The issue is it isn’t illegal since all the cheap clone machines are made in china which has no laws about protecting pets or manufacturing cat guillotines. No idea why they can’t ban their importation to the US.
@@Pacman009 I suspect they are illegal to sell as Amazon does, but the government is unlikely to take note; they're far too busy making sure no yellow multimeters or blackcurrants make it through.
i teared up when i saw that. it makes me shudder. poor kitties.
I mean, it should be, and it probably is. Except not where they actually make them, and the dropshippers who sell this don't care, since they're scammers and thus just evil in the first place, and neither do the places that host their shops (we're mostly talking Amazon, really) since they're amoral moneygrubbers who have their "we're not actually the sellers" as a legal fig leaf. Not much to be done except maybe make this a scandal so that it breaks through the by-design malaise around regulating big business and gets actually regulated like "no, Amazon, you're actually responsible for the things you sell".
No amount of software updates will ever fix a machine designed like a guillotine...
It's flawed by design.
Or the 200 newton motor that's gearboxed
@@Ardeact seriously why the fuck do they put something so overpowered in there
@@bazooka712 Something tells me the design was intentional
@@Ardeactme too😢. No offense I kind of looks like an among us character 😂 it might’ve Been an imposter🤣🤣
As a product designer, I am so unbelievably angry. They made a literal guillotine for cats. The amount of criminal negligence here is indescribable.
What accountability would you expect from these Chinese companies and from Ali Express or even Amazon? They have no problem selling you something toxic or deadly.
@@hansmikesen6355 It should not be a requirement to do extensive research on every single physical good you buy to make sure they aren't deadly in shockingly inept and negligent ways that are not readily apparent. Why in the world would you ever defend this sort of thing? Get a grip.
y’all hiring ? legitimate question since it’s tough out here for IDers even with years of product design and development experience
@@hansmikesen6355 I can't imagine my sister or old mother with zero engineering skills to do research about machine safety and design. They would look at all these amazing hitech magic pictures with sensors and stuff, see many reviews, see hundred of 5 stars, no negative, read positive reviews that are on top and say, people like it, it must be good.
Product designer here too. I hate everything about this from an ergonomic to build quality standpoint. It's atrocious.
This genuinely made me cry. I lost my kitty last year from a piece of furniture that her head got caught in. The lady describing how she woke up and had to search for her brought me back to that feeling of dread. It is so so tragic to lose pets to accidents. It was almost a year ago and I still have nightmares and panics attacks over it especially when I can’t find my current kitty for a few minutes.
I am so sorry that happened to you and your little baby. I hope you can continue to heal ❤
I’m so sorry for your loss. A similar incident happened to my in-law’s cat…a recliner. Unfortunately, the cat was killed. That was a horrible accident. These litter box deaths are no accident. Completely tragic that this company is still selling this death trap. Wishing you safe, happy & healthy days ahead. Oh, I cried too. 😢
@@jenniferquackenbush7458 thank you so much, wishing happy and peaceful days for you too 🤍🤍🤍
I told my boyfriend he has to promise me that every time he runs the dryer, he will close the door, THEN go and make sure he makes eye contact with both of my cats to ensure they are not in the dryer, before he runs it, because I knew a family who killed a cat by accident that way. It hurts me to even think about.
@@Velereonics I’m so sorry. That happened to a friend’s cat. They had a dryer that was built into the wall in the master bedroom & the cat jumped in to lay on the warm blankets. She fell asleep underneath one of the blankets but they were still damp, so her teenage son turned the dryer back on, not knowing that Snowball was in there. It was so tragic.
the fact that you had to FREE yourself with your other hand. knowing cats wouldn't be able to if they got caught makes me wanna cry.
They never had a chance. It's absolutely horrifying. Silencing owners who've lost cats to these machines is disgusting.
That horrified me, too. Why would you ever make a machine like this that had a powerful enough motor than a full grown man would have difficulty freeing his hand from it, knowing cats would be interacting with it daily?
Even more worrying. What if you have a toddler.
There's no chance a baby could remove their hand by themself and not getting serious injury if not broken hand/finger.
@@PixieoftheWood thats the scariest part. knowing that it could happen to any cat that uses this litterbox ANYTIME. Im just praying the people who use this litterbox find this video before something happens to their babies and immediately throw it out :(
@@PixieoftheWood It's China, that's what they do.
That photo with the blood is horrific. They could never pay me enough to take that down.
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take the money, take it down then wait a day and put it back up, mentioning the company paid to take it down.
well it was with promise to remove the product. not everyone understands how amazon works
What's even more horrific to me is the fact that his review was somehow altered? How is that even possible on amazon?
As a software developer, I have something to add. Even if they fixed it with the firmware update, that is not sufficient.
I have seen several prior bugs in software be reintroduced by a seemingly unrelated change. And I doubt this company has a good quality control system to mitigate this.
There is a very high chance that a future firmware update could make this machine deadly again.
My stance is, no self cleaning litter machine is safe if it has the mechanical potential to kill a cat, no matter the firmware shipped or provided.
Absolutely, there should be physical mechanisms to prevent it from using enough force to hold anything in place. Either a mechanism that completely disables the motor and or something that allows the rotating pieces to spin freely (that a cat would then push away from and be freed). A simple software update does not get rid of the fact that these need to be recalled and replaced
Even just a slip clutch would've helped here, made it so if any sort of resistance was on the motor output it'd have a physical slip instead of needing software to detect this and stop itself. But even then, I'd never trust a system designed in this way, as slip clutches can fail too.
This is amazing insight. Do you mind if I use your quote in an educational blog post or email to inform my cat-loving audience?
Software developers are lazy, no QA, ship it out, let customers be the test subjects.
@@ultimatums1QA is supposed to be a separate person’s job from the software developer. That way if the developer is bad it is caught and bad software doesn’t go out and the dev can be let go.
The footage of the cat getting caught in the machine was terrifying, you can easily imagine how the death is slow and incredibly painful. Amazon selling these i'm not surprised.
Amztoy needs to be held accountable, and be fined a appropriate amount. Millions, or maybe even every last penny they have so they go bankrupt. And do the same with every other brand selling the same kind of litterbox
That poor woman who settled... she thought she would be saving anyone else from having to go through this again, and instead she was silenced and the box is still being sold.
Well her message did get out in this video, so it's not a complete loss. Thank you for this information.
It's time for people to realize their lives are trivial, compared to the profit corporations can get.
She couldn't win when there is a ridiculous instruction like "Don't use it unsupervised".
Yeah that's probably the saddest part. Can't stop the machine from churning...
It's not just being sold, it's probably being sold by the same people. Drop-shippers can change their names easily, and some even have multiple names so they can cover searches with their products. That's why, when you put in a search for something on Amazon, a bunch of weirdly named companies show up, all with the exact same photos of the exact same product.
@@suzanneglover3146 agreed, I guess maybe we'll all just need to continue putting pressure on Amazon that this style of robot cat litter machine must be tested by a consumer safety agency before sale, or not be listed at all. In the meantime just get on the reviews and tell others of the dangers. If Amazon takes them down we deliver to this TH-cam person for follow-up.
This needs to be picked up by mainstream news outlets.
I sent the video to several o my local news stations and animal welfare facilities to hopefully gain momentum in spreading awareness of this dangerous machine
Asmon picked it up. 😂
Indeed! Penguinz0 made a video about it! That will reach many people.
@@Schneewittchen1310 Not enough. Most cat owners are likely not going to be watching youtube videos, rather looking at the news. This NEEDS to be picked up by a major news outlet, this is outrageous.
@ganjish_ Have they gave you any responses about that? I hope hey will actually raise awareness of this.
I don't have a cat, I'm not planning on having a cat either. But I'm commenting for the algorithm. It's important that people know about this.
Thank you
Absolutely. I’m unlikely to own a cat myself, but I’m utterly heartbroken hearing these stories.
Same
Awww YoUre So NoBlE AnD SeLfLeSs! If OnLy ThE ReSt Of ThE InTeRnEt WaS ThIs WhOlEsOmE!!!!
same here
bad and dangerous designs need to be shown
in the end also a toddler could climb in there..
This was one of the hardest things to watch but I felt I had to to continue to give it the boost in visibility it deserves and I’m commenting for the same reason. I’m absolutely bawling. This video will save lives.
Damn, even the stuffed-animal test is horrific. Mochi and Charlie deserved so much better from the designers of this machine and shame on everybody who let this get into the hands of consumers!
Holy shit, the hand test!
ngl i thought the stuffed animal test was both funny and horrific because the sound of the machine being stuck sounded like the stuffed animal was screaming
It is genuinely disgusting the harm that these 'products' (death machines) can do.
I don't understand why these people aren't suing them
@@wellIhavenothingbettertodo theyre spread across a lot of different companies which come and go, finding the source of the machine is likely very difficult, and theyre likely not based in america and suing companies from other countries rarely results in winning the lawsuit due to differing laws in diffierent countries, especially countries with few animal cruelty laws like china, where the machines likely come from.
I hate how internet algorithms work, because after watching this video now I'm seeing ads for these exact kind of litter boxes.
But you aren’t. You are seeing ads for Litter Robots aren’t you? Those are the complete opposite to these hideous piece on junk.
@@OneManFiveCats I'm not seeing it here on youtube, it's mostly on instagram, where I never seen a litter box ad before, and now I'm getting temu ads for this model of the video.
@@SatanSupimpa seriously? That’s so bad.
@@OneManFiveCats Yeah, sadly, that’s how the algorithms work when logging your user data. Most of the advertisements people will get after watching this will be for the cheap knockoff models because your devices heard the word affordable, litter robot, a bunch of brand names, and other related things pointing to the dangerous knockoff a good few times. Google (the parent company of TH-cam) profiles you and collects data from everything you do. Whether you get ads for the real litter robot or not can be highly dependent on what they’ve profiled you as based on your searches, answers to surveys, and usage data. If they’ve decided you’re likely lower income, they’ll market the cheaper knockoffs more because they know you’ll be less hesitant about the price; they may try the real one but are far less likely to push it as hard as the cheap alternatives. They don’t care what they’re advertising; as long as they’re making money, they could care less if it kills your pet. It’s just awful.
Edit: grammar
That's why I turn off targeted advertising everywhere I can.
That's not even a litterbox at that point. That's a HORRIFIC mousetrap for cats. That company needs to be shut down and all sales must be tracked and returned ASAP.
ngl a mousetrap is more humane then this, at least thats quick ;-;
They are from China, hard to track it down unless sue the Amazon instead.
@@sweeleongng333Animal abuse laws there are basically nonexistent, too
@@cosmicandy4620 mousetraps aren't quick
@@anneelk9066 If they're talking about the metal ones that snap shut, they are. The close with so much force the mouse dies instantly from having its neck broken
I watched your videos before buying an automatic litterbox, and man am I glad I did. One thing that really stuck with me was "Get one where your cat can never be in danger", like a rotating one where the exit never gets covered. This really helped me choose a litterbox that is safe and I can trust my cats with. I honestly can't imagine finding my cat dead stuck in the litterbox, I'd never forgive myself... That's like letting your kid play with a loaded gun... I also really don't respect the choice of those people to remove their review for some money... I'd much rather warn everybody out there than have a few extra bucks. Money won't bring your beloved cat back, but your review may help save other cats. Hell, I would've spammed Amazon customer support that any litterbox like this should be banned, I'd be calling the news, things like this can't stand...
Thank you for informing people what's safe and what isn't. After this, I hope you'll never give a litterbox that doesn't keep the opening completely clear at all times a passing rate (not sure if you did or not). Sensors clearly are not an acceptable way of keeping cats safe.
Edit: God, the horror of having your kid call you that your cat is stuck in that machine...
She thought they were taking it off their store, which is why she accepted the settlement. If they were the actual producer of the litter box, having the entire product removed would be way more efficient in making sure nobody buys these than putting up an Amazon review.
It is possible they could have been sued for defamation or something. They could never have the resources to win that case
It’s also worth noting that not everyone has the ability to spearhead stuff like this. Lawsuits are expensive, they’re unlikely to recover their costs. Even if they do, it won’t bring back their cat, but boy will every moment of dealing with it bring memories of your cat back, along with that moment. If it gets as far as depositions, you’ll be up against lawyers who will spend a full day making you feel like the worst person they’ve ever met (and they are lawyers, who know other lawyers!) because breaking you down until you misspeak can give them a point to work on to toss the case out (“even the plaintiff agrees that they were too irresponsible to have done ‘x’, and that the manufacturer could not have foreseen ‘y’”).
Sometimes you just need to put this sort of thing behind you.
And it’s totally fair for them to not know how whitelabel wholesale markets work, nor does it matter, the company could swear to never make another one ever, hand the ownership of the company over, re-incorporate and still turn around and go right back to it 19 minutes later and there isn’t anything you can do.
There’s no shame in not trying to be the person that saves the world.
As a disabled person, I am seriously considering an automatic litter box. This is VERY important information. I've been wary of automatic litter boxes due to the concern it could be unsafe.
Don’t be put off by them. The vast majority are incredibly safe.
Just make sure you save up and get a safe one! This fella's channel has very thorough reviews that should help you pick. Please don't let terrible companies tarnish what is an incredible accessibility tool for cat owners.
There should be one where you get a button to make it clean idk if they exist but it's a better idea
My cat uses a litter robot from the official litter robot brand and it’s been very safe for him
Maybe try removing the door (or having someone remove it for you).
I've found a lot of idiots will claim that cats will be safe from various dangers because they have a good sense of "self preservation", I always tell them "then you've clearly never owned many, if any, cats. Or if you have, you weren't paying any attention."
My sister's cat burned his tummy fur because he walked over a candle despite the fact he had just made a face right before when he realized the little light was hot, that fecker knew and still walked over it. I even had the candle up where he doesn't go and he went out of his way to get up on the counter to check it out once lit.. These fur balls only use their brain cells to frustrate humans, not to keep themselves alive.
And what about elderly or disabled cats? A cat can feel unsafe and still not be able to protect themselves or escape a dangerous situation. My friend has a cat with cerebellar hypoplasia (wobbly cat syndrome) that can't maintain balance and has tremors and uncontrolled muscle movements. By that logic, he should have just not safety-proofed his home for that cat and let her die in a stupid, preventable accident because apparently she has magic cat spidey senses! That's such a load of crap.
Yep. Assume cats are toddlers who can and will get into every nook and cranny in your house and plan accordingly.
Cats are like toddlers, always trying to find interesting ways to hurt/kill/maim themselves
@@starofgalaxies reminds me of that one gif where a dog and a cat got into a disagreement next to a candle, dog backed off when he saw the cat's tail catch fire, cat stopped and stared at its tail for a few seconds before running away from the candle [thankfully, cat moved fast enough to whip the flames off its tail but still]
As a software developer, i can share the same expert opinion that some others have shared: Software is not an acceptable safety measure. The hardware should be inherently safe; because sensors will degrade over time to the point that the software cannot reliably perform safety functions. If safety is preconditioned on correctly behaving software, you've already lost. Do not ever trust software, and especially not with actual real lives!
If you have one of these machines, you should update it to the most safe software available just in case, followed by THROWING IT OUT AND NEVER USING IT AGAIN. You absolutely cannot trust that this machine is nonlethal after that update, even if it feels safer at first glance!
As a software developer; I cosign this 100%
You don't implement safety in software. You can augment existing safety measures; but the fact that the physical design of the machine is dangerous means the machine is dangerous. Full stop
If anyone needs proof you never trust software as the sole safety feature, just look into the Therac-25 incidents.
What is your opinion on self diving cars?
There are ways to make safety-critical software, but it is an extremely involved and expensive process that no consumer products company would ever endure. Hardware safeties are much simpler and are "open-source" by nature so they can be validated externally by users and reviewers.
@@adrianahlz1895 Honestly? Given that the alternative is human-operated vehicles, which are not shown to be significantly safer, I do think that question is entirely different.
The logical conclusion of my previous stance and the fact that humans are at least equally dangerous is that we should never make self-driving cars, and also get rid of human-operated cars too. I do think this would be a good future, provided those resources can be invested in e.g. public transit. Banning cars works for me.
If we must have cars, then I do think unsupervised self-driving cars would be quite scary. The current state where they require constant human supervision is acceptable; because ultimately that software is not safety critical or advertised as such. The human can override it at any time, and the human is responsible for ensuring the safety of everyone on the road, including themselves and their passengers. That being said, I would never dare to write code for an actual autonomous vehicle that will be on public roads; for one I don't have relevant experience for that field (so basically your question boils down to asking some catgirl her politics) and for two I should not be trusted in writing code that has the potential to end lives. no skilled software developer wants to do that, so it takes a truly special mind to write safe code. or sometimes, a truly careless author to write lethal code. most are neither.
Fully unsupervised self-driving cars are scary, and maybe they'll never come. To be clear, I do think banning cars is the best output of this equation, but I don't think a future without cars on the road is foreseeable. In that case, both humans and software sucks. The next best thing is to just get software that sucks less than humans. This judgement is borrowed from CGP Grey, who basically states that yes, autonomous vehicles will still be dangerous and cause injury to people, they won't be perfect, of course not. But they don't *need* to be perfect because they're not competing against perfection. Humans are very dangerous and if self-driving cars can be shown to be reliably safer than humans within a significant margin, then I do think it would be beneficial to phase out human drivers entirely, eventually. Watch his video for some more thoughts on this, which has significantly influenced my opinions on self-driving cars.
Please keep educating people on this. I'm absolutely appalled and can't imagine how this could get through to buyers.
Not only does it kill your cat, it also makes these creepy screeching noises. It's straight out of a horror movie about rouge machines. If anyone saw this happening they would be traumatized for life.
'rouge' machines?
@@Calc_UlatorAre you asking for examples or questioning the spelling?
I'm willing to bet that creepy screeching noise is the gears of the motor grinding whilst it tries to force the door shut. Instead of...y'know...the pinch sensor doing its job and telling the motor to reverse.
@@Roadent1241 Questioning the spelling, I'd assume. Because the spelling is incorrect, unless this person wanted to make a pun
The creepiest part is, during the orange plush test towards the beginning, the screeching sound before becoming more mechanical sounds kind of like a cat crying.
That photo with the bloody paw/claw marks made me sick to my stomach. I would be absolutely hysterical to find something like this had happened to my furry family members - I'm tearing up just thinking about it.
Thank you for bringing this to people's attention, and thank you to those who have shared their horror stories, so that the danger of these products can be brought to light.
I was gagging as I watched his stuffy cat model for essentially decapitated by the test version. It’s the kind of reason I’m squicky about buying ANY of them (even the reliable ones).
@@christinacody8653 Yes It's not so hard to clean it by hand, only if you have 5 or more cats you can think about this damn machines
That photo really broke my heart. It drives home how truly awful that cat's last moments were. Even more horrifying, imagine if a toddler tossed a toy in there, and then put their head in to get it out. How can these things even exist?
Discovering the bloody claw marks must that been absolutely devastating, not to mention the visualising of their last moments.
time stamp?
More people need to be seeing this video. It is genuinely terrifying that a grown man, prepared for this machine to pinch his hand, struggled that much to free himself. What if someone’s child got stuck? Those cats never even had a chance to free themselves and I have no clue how those parents explained to their two year old what happened.
This is why I shared this video to Facebook and LinkedIn - the only social networks I use: because I think everyone needs to see this video! As you say, it's not unsafe just for cats, it's unsafe for kids and adults too!🤦🏻♀️ Absolutely horrible product and whoever created it should end up in jail! 😡
Seeing a deceased cat can be just as traumatizing as seeing an injured human child.
This needs to be ON THE NEWS.
Harsh lesson about cost and quality.
@@theothertonydutch that’s an extremely inappropriate comment. That “harsh lesson” killed three different peoples pets and traumatized at least four humans, one of them being a child. You are downplaying how a two year old had to walk in on her beloved cat.
Whoever decided to sell these machines despite the danger deserves to experience what the dead cats had to experience. Absolutely disgusting.
I think we have another safety hazard in this one. Humans. Can you imagine if a child had stuck their hand in there? If a full grown man, aware of what it does, could barely free himself. What chance does a child have? And heaven forbid the child stuck their head in there. If the parent didn't know how to rip it apart in seconds. These need to be REMOVED from sale!!
You're so right. This man's hand was literally getting crushed in that machine. My sis has a young one and they constantly stick their fingers into holes. This product would absolutely be a danger to them...
Scary. So scary
Exactly. I have three very young children and I know babies and toddlers are especially super curious and can get themselves into a situation in a matter of moments. I really hope anyone with children stays away from products like these.
Even a full grown person could get their head caught and their neck crushed in that ( not sure why an adult would need to do that, but people are weird)
I have a dog - fairly large at 50 lbs - who likes to steal from cat boxes and I can't even imagine how gutted I'd be if he got caught in this death trap. They're a danger to ALL pets, small children, unsuspecting adults...
I hope this gets subtitled in Chinese and other languages in Asia. Because I can see it being distributed in the small street stores there without people thinking about what they’re actually selling
i completely agree, as a chinese person myself this type and style of branding is what you see littered all over online markets. i really hope this gets spread there too as i'd bet money its being sold in china if not more so than here
I put on Chinese subs etc earlier today but the timings were off so I am redoing them.
@@OneManFiveCats that’s awesome. I’m glad they’re coming. I feel like if this went viral in China it would put more pressure on aliexpress and other companies to remove this design
@@yfllll Wait, can Chinese people even access TH-cam? I was under the impression there was some Chinese knockoff TH-cam. You know, because... Westerners talk about certain things China's government has done that they don't like.
I guess Hong Kong and Taiwan might still be able to see it though.
@@yfllllExcept TH-cam is blocked in China.
This makes me SO UPSET. I couldn't imagine how devastated I'd be if my beloved cat, who's literally everything to me, was hurt or worse by a litterbox I purchased. This is a nightmare. I hope these owners get justice!
The only justice they can hope for is that these things are removed from sale so no other cat has to be lost. I also hope it sends to a message to these manufacturers to make sure future designs are safe.
@@OneManFiveCatslol I doubt these Chinese companies care. They'll just redesign the shell and vomit out the same product under Ehfhehvhwjvu or another brand name.
@antikommunistischaktion the country should ban the design. Or put an embargo on sales of these types of designs, if they're not going to hold the sellers liable for killing pets.
it is actually made by a Chinese company and for some weird reason they put an address on the Amztoy website I dont no if it is of a random address or if it is the company's address.
We need a John Wick
Not a cat owner but watched the whole video. Thank you for getting this message out there. I can’t imagine how horrifying it would be and I have no words for the companies that would put these on the market. Makes you wonder how the product recall process might be failing us as consumers.
So instead I’ll save my words for the intro where you said some people say owning a self-cleaning litter box is lazy. What a crazy thing to say. Our lives are improved all the time by inventions and new approaches. If someone told me that I could spend 15 minutes cleaning a litter box OR this machine will do it for you and you can take that 15 minutes and sit on a comfy chair with a book, a cup of tea, and a cat curled up in your lap I know what I would pick every time. Time is our major non-renewable resource and unless those critics are taking their clothes out to a local stream to wash them by hand, they can just keep their thoughts on the value I place on my time to themselves. In fact, if they do take their clothes to the stream, I probably have a few questions for them instead 🙄
Recently, A cat feeder purchased by my father had clasped down on one of our kittens paws and my whole family had struggled to free her paw from the machine as she cried out in pain. Yes, my cat is alright. We'd been able to tear the machine apart in order to rescue her and she showed minimal damages other than a sore paw that caused limping for 2 days. I'm saddened that these kinds of off brand devices can even go so far as to unintentionally kill pets. I really wish that everyone who has this product disposes/returns it because these stories are heartbreaking. I still remember how I felt during that moment and I only hope that others get the relief I had when our kitten was safe.
Tell us which one it was!
I'm so glad your kitty is OK. Hope she's having all the pets/cuddles.
Why is that possible in the first place?
Either make the mechanism weak enough to not do damage, or make sure no paws can get stuck in them.
Im so sorry your cat got hurt. Makes me angry that these things arent tested enough to find bugs like this.
give him a good health pat :3
I have a generic cat feeder from amazon, but it seems rather safe by design, what was yours?
what kind of feeder ? its incredibly important to share so it doesnt happen for others
just told my cat through tears that i’m never complaining about having to clean his litterbox again
My sweet boy has two boxes and I vow to never groan about cleaning them again. What horror, I couldn't even imagine.
Sameee, I would just count it (cleaning the litter box) as squat work out session 🙈
Sorry Garfield Sorry Garfield Sorry Garfield 😥😭😭😭
Same... I got a Peewee litter box, and the closest I get to automation is having my roomba clean up the bathroom floor after I've switched out the pellets.
Same id rather do the tedious task of cleaning a litter box than have my baby dead
My brothers cat passed by the same machine. (TW).He was an orange Persian,and 2 months old. His name was cheddar. When my brother found him,I was at his house. His body was on the floor,and his head was crushed inside. I thank you for spreading awareness about this.❤️
I don't know what I'd do if I saw something like that. How awful. Poor kitty.
Rest in peace Cheddar ❤️
that is horrific. I feel so bad for cheddar and your brother. God, I want to start sobbing aggressively.
I hope cheddar is in a better place.
2 months? Damn. Rest in peace cheddar
that's absolutely heartbreaking. I'm so so sorry.
The fact they are only really available in the US is also another huge red flag. Anything only available in one market, ESPECIALLY the american market cannot be good.
The amount of potentially dangerous products from over there is honestly terrifying
I lost a cat to a coyote years ago because I assumed it was safe to install "cat door " for my beloved Suki. Today, many years later, the horror of seeing her eviscerated body haunts me. I cannot even imagine finding my cat dead in a machine designed to make their life better. You have done an invaluable service to the cat owner community.
A self cleaning machine does everything BUT make their life better. A little more comfort of course, but personally my cats couldnt care less about a dirty litter box : they'd do it somewhere else anyway if it really bothers them. Also my fearful ahh cat would be terrified if the place he just pooped in started moving and making noises but i guess that's a me problem. Plus inspecting cat feces can help prevending deadly diseases.
That must've been so incredibly horrible, I can't even begin to imagine how difficult that was for you. Sending extra prayers/good vibes to your sweet Suki in kitty heaven.
Man I know how you feel. My cat got hit by a car, and seeing your buddy in that position, covered in bI00d is something I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy. So to buy a product like this, and to have a cat die in such a way in the comfort of YOUR own home, is just pure evil.
I'm so sorry for your experience, that's beyond tragic. I do want to say that you shouldn't blame coyotes, the predation pattern sounds much more like a mustelid like a weasel, or possibly a different small predator like a raccoon. People are quick to blame coyotes when there are tons of different predators out there
Was your cat killed outside or inside your home? If it was outside, that's on you for letting your cat go outside unsupervised. If it was inside, then again... why was your cat allowed outside unsupervised in the first place?
Thank you, please do not allow anyone or company to bully this from being removed.
Oh I won’t.
I have already reported some of these items on Amazon.
I just tried to find this video here, because I stumbled over it on reddit r/eddit and it wasn't easy to find by only the title alone.
I guess something about the TH-cam algorithm and words like "kill" or deadly"? :/
It worked when I typed the name of the TH-cam channel as well.
Please reach out to @LouisRossmann as he has been tackling Amazon's bad behavior about dangerous goods.
The more eyes on this, the safer we and our pets can be.
I don't share much on fb but I shared this.
Some thoughts from someone who works in the sensor-embedded industry:
1. It is completely and utterly insane to even require a firmware update at all for the machine to be safe - I don't want to berate you for suggesting this is a fix, but to be absolutely clear: safety can never, ever be delegated to demanding people perform a firmware update, especially for the mass market. If you buy, IT SHOULD BE SAFE AT THE MOMENT OF BEING BOUGHT. Having firmware update capability can never, EVER excuse a product being actually dangerous. Strong MCAS vibes.
2. Safety-critical sensors should employ POSITIVE sanity controls. That is, the machine should CONSTANTLY CHECK itself for correct sensor behavior, and if at any point the sensing suite does not report appropriately, the machine should consider itself BROKEN AND STOP operating entirely until it is repaired. Yes, this does mean the machine will more easily stop working and enrage the user, but this is only if your sensor suite is garbage to begin with, in which case you should not be selling at all.
3. Sensors are microelectromechanical devices that can fail (this should almost never happen to good ones, but god knows what these companies are using). They should be used AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE for safety purposes, the REST OF THE DESIGN SHOULD BE INHERENTLY SAFE in every other possible way. You're not making an Abrams tank whose operators may as well be blown to bits by enemy missile fire, you're making a household objects used by the general consumer.
It’s what I said when after I updated the firmware, had I waste my time now it worked? I said no because it was shipped to me like this and to everyone else. Even right now, all those machines sitting in Amazon warehouses will not have the new firmware. With so many people who don’t use apps and with no warning that they need to update it, I had not wasted my time. Plus the physical design of it with that plastic fixed oval opening that closes off is beyond stupid if sensors do fail. There’s no physical or mechanical fail safe which there needs to be. That Popur waste bin lid cannot be opened by hand without breaking the motor. As soon as it closes the motor locks down. To open it you have to hold down the cycle button I believe. I don’t understand why the motor needs to lock down. It should be able to move backwards physically if a cat got in there and needed to lift it to get out. It’s just a bad design.
When the Litter Robot 3 and 4 have sensor faults they stop working. The LR3 is notorious for pinch detectors failing generally due to corrosion from the fumes of urine clumps in the waste drawer. They should be made of a better material for sure, but they are only $6 to replace and will take a novice about 20 minutes to do with the instructional video from Whisker to do it.
What’s utter madness is I’ve seen so many posts from people annoyed about it keep happening that they tape over the contacts to bypass them so the machine will work again, but without the pinch detectors. Utter madness. At least the pressure the motor exerts is low enough if a cat got caught in the waste drawer opening then wouldn’t get hurt and they should be able to free themselves.
I tested the LR4 with the far superior pinch detectors disabled using my fist. It just felt like a light press and then it stopped, so I just removed my hand.
@@OneManFiveCats The thing about the LR3 (and possibly the 4) is that there is an additional safety already built in - the weight sensor. They made the weight sensor overly complicated (a poor design of variable pressure sensor) rather than the LR2 which had a foolproof on/off weight switch. If the weight sensor is tripped, then the unit should never even be running in the first place to NEED the pinch sensors. They ALSO added (stupidly) a continual resistance check against the "bonnet" light board - through those VERY dodgy side connectors.
I have NINE of these LR3 units, and have disabled the pinch connectors AND taken that bonnet nonsense and put it entirely in the base. Why? Because intermittent trash connections should NOT be the source of "safety" if that is the goal! Make it sensitive enough (with a PROPER on/off idiot proof switch) that KNOWS when anything is onboard, and just never activate the motor then or stop it the instant the load changes. Yeah that makes it need a bit of an adjustable pressure spring, but that is WAY better than the existing VPS type they are using now.
@@OneManFiveCats I have 2 popurs and both waste bins (cardboard) can be very easily opened by hand...did not know it was an issue that they clamp shut for (most?) people? Had no idea.
@@SakuraPomeranian how old are your Popurs?
I will say that Whisker's Litter Robot does follow these principles. Even as an owner if it's annoying every time there's a sensor issue the device doesn't function. But the alternative is worse, as seen by these knock off products
My stomach turned as many times as there are grains of sand while watching this. It's absolutely horrifying how they delete reviews about people's DEAD CATS that died because of their unsafe design.
The stuffed animal tests literally made me sick and start crying. This is truly horrific, my God.
I almost stopped watching there, it was so wrenching to see.
I agree. Absolutely chilling.
Same, then I genuinely panicked when his hand got stuck as well... this is damn terrifying
Same, started sobbing seeing that stuffed animal get stuck in the machine, knowing a real, poor animal got stuck just like that. Even the hand test. Horrifying and so upsetting knowing a cat went through such a death
I cried a bit more even after the video has ended… It’s giving me trauma…
This is horrific. I'm a new cat owner, and I was more than happy to keep a litterbox for my girl so that she could live a long happy safe indoor life but nothing will ever make me more thankful to scoop it by hand every single day than this.
Those poor beautiful angels. What a nightmare, for them and those that loved them.
.. your girl??
@@Chris_Sheridan cats can be girls, yes.
@@Chris_Sheridan ever heard of love
@@Chris_Sheridan She is a girlcat and she is my girl the way any proud father might talk about he and his wife's girl at home
@@Starryeyyed67 .. the marketing of cat litter boxes that function like guillotines - is not out of love! It's negligence.
What kind of a sadist designs a litter robot with a 500 horsepower motor?!
One that is probably just a Chinese contractor that have no history in designing a pet product and is only in it to make a quick buck. For all we know that could've been an existing washing machine motor.
IDK how much HP is needed but having scraped some tough kitty kookies from litter pans by hand, it feels like a lot sometimes
@@stellarobado4269 probably not much. The Space Needle uses a 1.5 HP motor to spin the entire restaurant.
Doubt they actually had 500 horsepower. Could've been confused with a torque measurement (which would still be extremely high) or just a spelling error (highly likely if it was the seller saying that).
I watched through most of the video, skimmed the rest, then re-skimmed looking for this number. Where is it in the video?
@@AttacMage i was being hyperbolic. I thought it would've been obvious given the fact that 500hp is enough to accelerate a couple ton car to 60mph in about 3 seconds. My point was that there was absolutely no reason to use a motor/gear reduction such that the litter box could also double as a guillotine.
Defected sensor or generic profit? This is a guillotine with human errors!
I'm still having my litter house and shovel for almost 14 years, though I admit I DO want one of these for conveniences. Always do my research like this before purchasing. Thank you for bringing this up.
Wow, this is infuriating - cheaply made, mass-produced garbage that kills cats being sold under a bunch of different brands? Sketchy as hell; I'm glad somebody is doing due diligence, and reporting on this.
not to mention this preys on inexperienced or stressed cat owners who dont know what to look for and only go for something in their budget. If my baby didn't like her traditional box OR if i was injured again and couldnt clean after her..its a heartbreaking thought.
i didnt expect this to make me SOB but the idea of those cats having such a horrible death, and the thought of finding my babies that way... it's horrific. RIP to those sweet cats
As someone who just got a cat, this video traumatized me
yeah...
Seeing that plushie get trapped and imagining it being a real cat made my heart drop and my stomach turn. Absolutely horrible, what an awful thing to happen to those poor cats and their owners. People need to know about this!
😂
Thank you for sharing. Had to stop watching at 5:34 when you rescued the plush cat from the machine. Leaving my computer right now to hug my two cats
I watched it with my cat, and reminded him how good he’s got it. I’ve had a number of automatic units over the years, but never trusted anything that rotated on the Y-axis, so I guess we got lucky. Give yours an extra hug?
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Thank you for sharing our sweet mochis story! Thank you for letting others know the dangers of certain litter boxes and what to look for. I had no idea what took look out for until unfortunately it was too late. Praying this reaches who it needs to! ❤❤❤
mochi's story will save countless others ❤
RIP Mochi.
I'm sorry for your loss :(
Amazon has become a cesspool of garbage products from China/Ali Express resellers. They usually have nonsensical names, or blatantly copy established products. It's race to the bottom for both pricing and quality. Fake reviews, or reviews that make no sense, on top of a loophole allowing items to be sold piggybacking an old inactive product with high rating.
Please, look over what you're buying. If something happens to you, or your beloved pet, you'll be trying to sue Amazon, a company worth 1,798 trillion dollars, which is another way of saying you will be locked in court forever against lawyers costing thousands per hour and you will most likely lose. Or avoid buying from Amazon altogether, if you can help it.
I am so sorry for your loss. May mochi rest in peace.
I have the Amztoy litter box you showed in this video. THANK YOU! I called Amazon today and got a full refund. Will be disposing of this garbage and replacing it with a regular litter box.
I am so happy to hear this. Good riddance to it! Take a look at the Furrytail one I’ve linked in the description. It’s the best budget one you can get and it’s incredibly safe!
I have the same Amztoy litterbox 😢 can you tell me how you were able to contact Amazon?
@juleylikespandas throw it!
@@juleylikespandas You go through the help agent on their website and eventually it gives up and asks you to speak to someone. It's a pain in the ass.
@@juleylikespandasThey have an option on their help page to get a phone call. I explained this video and how the listings even removed. Since it’s too large and I don’t have the box, they said to toss it out. Outside the return window too! The lady I talked to had cats so she was very understanding.
The fact that this man has spent his money, done research, and tested it with his own hands, to spread awareness of this machine. Oh how i wanted to cry when his hand was trapped, that itself proved that cats wouldn’t survive. Thank you so much for spreading awareness, I myself, have a cat, and I now will spread to other people about this “litter box”. I thank you very much of spreading this message to everyone and demonstrating of the risks of what could happen. Including that in my country there is also a big possibility of this also this existing. I just really really want to thank you since, I am a 9 year old girl with a grey persian cat that I really care about, and with this, my mother could’ve easily gotten this “litter box” of because our cat uses a traditional litter box which is very stinky. My cat is only 9 months and I would really be dreadful to hear if my cat died inside this hell-made monster “litter box”. ❤❤
i hope your cat is healthy and safe
Thank you very much.
Traditional cat box(es) should NOT be “stinky”if large enough, and if two are used (one for urine, and one for feces) with the appropriate amount of litter in them, and scooped 1 time a day.
@@shawnaweesner3759 I don't understand your comment. Who are you replying to?
@@OneManFiveCats The girl from the original comment mentioned her traditional litterbox smells. Stated in the 7th to 8th row.
This product should be blacklisted everywhere! This is horrifying! I was almost brought to tears just watching you test it on the plush! I cannot believe people have had to deal with the sight of their dead pet- a member of their family- being killed by one of these things.
Selling these is just CRIMINAL!!! What the hell were the designers thinking? ALL of them and the sellers should be held accountable. PURE CRIMINAL!!!!!!!
It's ridiculous that something with such a fatal design flaw can just keep being produced and sold even once it starts killing cats. The fact that it's a generic design being sold on several retail sites is horrifying. There is no accountability from the manufacturers, amazon just deletes the listing and puts another one up with a different name. Imagine if this were something geared toward human babies. Its bad enough that cats are being killed by these things, but it also proves amazon and other sites selling these things are willing to host a product that is dangerous and faulty.
@@an8thdimensionalbeing142 It also is a danger to kids. Children are naturally curious and below a certain age would certainly not think anything of sticking their hands or even head into the litter box opening.
UTTP is criminal too.
It's kind of our fault too we create a demand for Chinese crap because we love cheap stuff and now the market is infested with the damn things
Accountable? This is garbage from China - nobody will be held accountable.
This is absolutely horrifying, I dont know how they didn't realize this would result in a cat being hanged. Rest in peace to Charlie and Mochi, they'll be missed by their owners and everyone who came here to see this video.
This is worse than them not realizing. The fact that they intentionally delete comments on their videos talking about it means that they are aware of the danger and don't care
I think, by hanging they meant that the head was, decapitated
I don’t think they cared
@@asdcdweadasd thats the truth here, they probably didnt.
Saw there was a market for these, scrambled together some trash and shipped it off.
Thats all there is to it sadly. Nowadays you really have to do a lot of research for stuff like this to make sure you dont buy a death machine
They don't care. Typically Chinese, making money is more important then morality or ethics.
bro risked his hand to tell us about how dangerous that piece of machine is, thanks a million.
This is absolutely disgusting negligence by whoever made this.
The test with the stuffed animal broke my heart. The continued closing and screeching noises… my heart breaks for the cats and owners who have fallen victim to these machines. Thank you for sharing this information.
This isn’t a litter box, that thing could be marketed as an automatic cat euthanasia machine! I was wondering why would anyone let that design get past the drawing board, then I remembered “oh yeah, China”…. 😒
@@davemccage7918 i agree that the machine's design is criminal & shouldn't have been passed, but why do you guys dislike china so much? my grandparents are immigrants from china & they hear comments like yours all the time. i just want to get where you guys are coming from :)
@@terikumo No one is saying bad things about Chinese people. We are discussing how China the country is associated with terribly designed and dangerous products due to the government of China the country refusing to regulate their industries. The CCP has repeatedly and definitively made it clear that they have no interest in making sure their industries consider the safety and health of foreign countries, they only focus on how much wealth can be extracted. If a US or EU country makes a dangerous product and sells it to a Chinese customer, that customer will have legal recourse in the country of origin. If a US or EU customer buys a Chinese product, the CCP will tell the customer to get bent if damages are suffered.
@@terikumoChinese people aren't the problem, Chinese standards are. It's not on the people, but on the government that refuses to implement safety measures and quality checks in favor of easy money... Chinese civilians are just as much a victim if not more, because even their homes and workplaces are built substandard and without safety mechanisms.
Great video. It's sad how a "small settlement" can change a review from being "killed my cat" to "Good machine" on amazon.
The man with the litterbox robot videos with the best production values on the internet is now also a consumer advocate that used his own funds to purchase and test an unsafe one to get the word out! Bravo!
Thank you 😊
I understand why they accepted the settlement-- it's very hard if not impossible to sue some Chinese mystery company for anything. Whatever amount they got, it was probably the only way the victims could get any settlement at all. As Five Cats Man showed, he couldn't even return his deadly machine for a refund.
@@stellarobado4269 “five cats man” 🙃. You can call me “man” or Philip. Either is fine!
@@stellarobado4269 Also keep in mind that even if it weren't a foreign company, cats are regarded as property in many parts of the world, definitely the US, so the damages that you'd be able to recover aren't typically that much. Certainly not enough to change the way that the company is operating or to get them to make changes to the design. What's particularly bad about this is that it's not that hard to test to see what sort of pressure is being applied by the door on anything that gets trapped in there. Idiots have been using carrots to demonstrate what happens with the Tesla Cybertruck closes on them.
Why is money more important than helping other people (and saving other cat lives?). There’s NO excuse for accepting money in exchange for removing information that can help other people. I have zero sympathy for that woman, and all the sympathy in the world for her poor deceased cat.
I'm not a very emotional person. Not many things give me strong reactions. This video, however, was deeply, deeply distressing-and it should be. There should be no world where we are comfortable with such deep-rooted greed and deliberate negligence that it takes innocent lives. Thank you for making this video.
I can do relate to what you are saying. It's hard to make me cry over a TH-cam video. This one really got to me. Absolutely inexcusable.
Hopefully everyone becomes vegan then
@@Anom990 non sequitur
I cannot believe it. I started thinking about buying an automatic litter box one week ago. I never thought that it can be so dangerouse for cats when buying the wrong one. THANKS FOR SHARING.
Thank you so much.
@@OneManFiveCatsim sorry about this..
stay safe❤
That 3 mouth old kitten that was rescued into a loving home, just shattered my heart 😢
That could have been my cat! She just turned 1 year old too! 😡💢😡
yeah...
Literally watched this and sobbed when I saw the stuffed cat...its head stuck inside, its body hanging from the machine...legit had to grab my cats and hold them...I thank god that I am able to care for my cats and have gotten them a litter robot 3....this breaks my heart..so fucking much, thank you so much for bringing awareness to this! Every cat owner NEEDS to see this!!!! I've shared it with all my cat owner friends!!!
Indeed. From that point on I was in full anxiety attack. Poor cats, poor humans...
Can you tell the minute for trigger warnings?
from around 5:00 to 5:50. chapter is called "first test". I didn't think it would affect me this bad because it's just a stuffy, but it did. The sound it makes a well, I'm crying. there are multiple clips like this in the video, but that one was the worst
if you're still using a "robot" to clean the litter box you haven't learned shit tbh
if you can't fucking find the time to clean your own cat's litter box don't fucking have a cat
hearing people describe what happened to their cats is so gut wrenching, i dont think i could continue living if i found my cat like that
My heart is breaking for that poor woman. I truly hope that she and every other pet owner that has lost their pet due to corporate negligence takes legal action and gets justice for their poor babies :(
Here from Penguinz0’s video. Thank you so much for making this video and bringing awareness to pet owners. It’s devastating that a product like this is being sold to well-meaning cat owners. I appreciate the insight ❤
Me too
Me three
Me four 😢
Came here just to upvote the video and hope to god this going viral will save more cats.
The Litter Box Situation is Insane
It absolutely breaks my heart to think about how terrifying that sweet kittys last moments were, and the clear bloody struggle on the bottom of the litter box makes me literally cry. NO cat should ever have to be killed like this in their own home, by something meant to improve their life, by something meant to comfort them, by something that is meant to be safe. Sweet kitty died alone, confused, scared, and painfully. I hope this sweet angel is having the best time in kitty heaven with lots of food, fun toys, and cozy beds.
yeah.
😭 💔
Those poor, poor babies. Absolutely horrifying that these companies are already paying people to be silent about their death contraption. Thank you for spreading awareness of this.
companies having blood on their hands is very old concept it never goes away
I wouldn't say sht. I would take them straight to court for the trauma alone.
@@marcodarko6941 💯 And not just her trauma, her 2 year-old also saw the gruesome scene. I wouldn't be surprised if she needed therapy after that, seriously speaking
yeah!
They wouldn't have paid me off. Ask Australian Quarantine about the gamma irradiated imported Canadian food that paralysed my cat and 100 or so others back in 2009.
Cleaning my cat's litter boxes gives me valuable insights into their general health and well being. Poops too dry or runny, strong smelling concentrated urine... Stuff like that.
I don't normally comment very often, but this NEEDS to be pushed by the algorithm. As a cat owner, I could never even imagine losing my cats in such a horrific way. My heart goes out to all the people who lost their cats to this
Algorhytm pushing is working. I don't have cats and never looked into litter boxes, and still got recommended this vid. Good work!
Commenting to hopefully boost this comment. 100%, I couldnt even imagine that happening to one of my cats. Im not a queasy person, but I actually felt sick when it was demonstrated. Thats a good thing though, cause more people need to be aware of this, and people SHOULD feel uncomfortable about it. Its completely horrific that there are no regulations or accountability. At the very least hoping to share this around for awareness, and in the best scenario, preventing people from getting these
commenting for the same, absolutely sickening.
@@zoe-aliceSame
I cried so hard. Those kitties didn't deserve to get their little lives cut so short. I really hope this reaches more people.
reputation is dead, market is automated. ads for products for nobody forever
This needs to be higher in the algorithm. Any cat owner thinking about buying a self-cleaning litter box should see this.
Well, I dont have a cat, I havent seen any videos about cats, and this video was in my feed, definetly the algorithm is working. I am going to shared this video to my friends who owns a cat or want a cat. I hope this will help save many lives.
I had two beautiful cats and 1 dog. They all had long happy lives, especially my baby pheobe, she was 25. She died 5 years ago now, and only just the other day did I begin to think I could commit to having a cat again because to this day my heart is broken. I’ve started doing research on all the best toys and gadgets and everything for my future cat, and had my eye on the litter robot 4 myself, but tbh after seeing this, I’m not sure I have the bravery to have any kind of litter robot now. This video brought me to tears and it’s absolutely heartbreaking that this is even a thing. Even if the litter box 4 is the best, are any of them truly 100% safe, as a non self cleaning one would be? I guess not. It makes me think I don’t even want to take the risk. Thank you so much for making this video and I pray these companies go bankrupt and get what’s coming to them
Absolutely disgusting. And the fact that these companies were just refunding or paying off the people who had their cats killed…. No amount of money can bring your loved pets back due to gross negligence 😢 glad you’re bringing light to this and that some of these listings have been removed
And the trauma of finding your cat decapitated? Awful
This is sickening, the manufacturers should be jailed for selling this
@Alfred-Neuman
fuck you for saying this that's so insensitive
@@Alfred-Neumanwtf?
It's likely a stolen design, produced by a random factory in China, under a ghost name. Unfortunately nothing will happen.
5:20 really freaked me out, I said out aloud “that’s DISGUSTING”
A creepy noise, killing your cat while it is trapped in that position and being unable to breath is absolutely terrifying and EVIL
Thankyou for making this video man, let’s boost this video!
yep, that noise is the engine going full power even though it's encountering resistance
beyond stupid
It’s a killing machine and i hate whoever made the damned thing
@@partysuviusI’m actually so grateful to see this video and want to cry typing this. I almost bought this exact design about a month ago, didn’t have the extra cash due to bills so I said I would wait. Boy am I glad I waited because my Cat would be gone.
Hello. Brand new subscriber here! Just want to thank you for all of your research and informative videos on automatic litter boxes! I started my search recently and ended up on your site. After all of your reviews and then stating that you use the Litter Robot 4 for your babies, my decision was made and I just ordered one for my babies! I also have five, but can only afford one box for now so I’ll have to keep a couple traditional boxes handy. Hopefully they’ll Al choose the Litter Robot and I won’t have to scoop as much (preferably not at all!) in the future. 😊 Thanks again! And I made sure to put you as the reason for purchasing when it asked during my checkout! Hopefully that helps you somehow! Thank you again! Much appreciated!
Pretty disgusting that they are simply rebranded and continue to sell them.
For anyone who wants to take some form of action, you can use the link in the description to access the amazon links and use the "Report an issue with this product" button and declare it unsafe. The button is found under the description on the product page. Unsure how effective this is, but the more reports then the more likely the products will be looked at.
Thanks for the video and spreading awareness!
Yeah they rebranded it on amazon and ebay. It’s now called “Lpettog Self Cleaning Cat Litter Box”
They don't care about our pets. All they care about is money and profit. Nowadays barely anyone really cares about pet/human heath. This is so sick. We should drag them to court for this terrible machine. That's not a litter box that'sliterally a guillotine. If a person can't even give 5 minutes front 24 HOURS of a day to take care of their cats, they shouldn't have one.
There’s literally thousands of “brands” like this on Amazon. They buy generic crap, slap an auto generated brand name on it, and sell it until the listing goes down for one reason or another, rinse and repeat.
@@BrietheCattIt’s hard to stop drop shipped garbage, but we should still try. I wish there was a more effective way of doing it. Amazon should require areal human being to review products put up so someone can’t just relist/rebrand dangerous products.
Tears came to my eyes in the first 5 seconds. Could not watch the rest. Came here through penguinz0's video. Thank you for your work.
Thank you very much. 😔
These sorts of experiences would be horribly traumatic for the children who discovered their beloved kitties dead in this way. I’m almost in tears just thinking about it!
Me too 😢
it's one hell life lesson about the cycle of life at least
I’m hoping it’s not one of her daughter’s earliest long term memories..I’m just hoping she didn’t realize what was going on idek
@@ember9361its not a cycle of life there was no natural selection it was just put into a death trap
@@stop08it thankfully i dont think her daughter actually saw mochi, just knows that she passed, but i cant imagine how horrific it must be..
Oh my good that poor daughter, the horror she must have felt trying to save her little kitten. That’s so sickening, I can only imagine the sheer panic she felt as she called her mum
Thank you so much for making this video. I just wrote an email to our national consumer protection organisation here in Germany, where I explained to them the points you make in your video. I also included a link to this video so that they can see, for themselves, how dangerous those products are. So again, thank you so much for this video, I hope it will lead to our consumer protection organisation issuing a warning to customers in Germany and thus saving the lives of our furry friends.
I wish us North Americans had a national consumer protection organization as reliable and contactable as your.
Haben wir eigentlich sowas wie REACH (für chemie) auch für elektrische Geräte?
@@conny.rapp.tattooidk
Thanks for this PSA. Poor families losing their loved pets like this... I cried
just the stuffy garfield getting caught in it was upsetting viewing
@@nezuminora9528 yes, totally
I did too. Many hugs to you!
It nearly did make me cry, I got two cats at home and crist this is just. Depressing
Same. Just imagining that is heartbreaking.
I've been thinking about buying my cat an auto litterbox for a while now. The thought that I could have unknowingly ordered one of these and would have gotten my baby killed had I not watched this video, absolutely terrifies me. A very scary thought.
Thank you for what you're doing, and I'll definitely be back to watch more of your videos so I can decide on a good one to buy for him!
@@Komyromy remember when looking at reviews you can’t trust them. As this video shows people will change there review to say it’s a good product if you offer them a small amount of money, even if it did squish there cat to death
The Litter Robot is a game changer. If the price scares you off, they have refurbished ones offered on their site and offer payment plans too!
And with multiple clones of this product, it can be hard to find an actual well designed and SAFE one.
There’s reviews for actual good ones on this channel
Thank you for making this. I was upset with my older litter robot not working and throwing errors and thought of replacing it with a cheaper model. I was brought to tears hearing the stories of those poor families. Litter robots only for us
I'm not a cat owner but a lot of my friends and coworkers have cats so I'm commenting for the algorithm. This video is important and it should be spread and seen by as many cat owners (and their friends) as possible.
You should link them the video yourself, not wait for them to possibly see it some day. Commenting is also a plus, but not enough.
@@rusalkacrnkovic8024 Commenting helps the algorithm reach people that I don't know.
Thank u for spreading this awareness to your friends and coworkers who owns cats. They need to know too
They’re switching names, deleting comments/reviews. Thank you for the deep dive, and exposing these scammers.
The comment wasn't deleted by them. The comment contained an email, so TH-cam's automated system deletes the comment as soon as it's posted.
When the machine clamped up on that plushie, that noise was terrible! I can't imagine that being the last thing a living being had to hear. Poor babies, I'm so glad this video is spreading out
This is so disturbing and awful. I can't believe this death trap is allowed to be sold. I have 2 cats but don't like self-cleaning litterboxes. I work from home and am fine cleaning the litterbox myself several times a day. After watching this, I would not let my cats anywhere near any self-cleaning litterboxes, even if they are supposed to be safe. Something can always go wrong and they also just look very uncomfortable for cats to use the bathroom in.
A design like this should be totally scrapped. There's no update that can make this fully safe.
The update is cutting the front in two. I'm not saying that you should do it, unless you already have one of those machines and want to use it.
It's already been updated. I found several on Aliexpress that look very similar, but it now rotates on the X axis leaving the opening, open.
@@taylorlightfoot you've just found different clones.
This is awful. I can't believe someone would design a litterbox this way! It's essentially a guillotine. Thank you for this informative video... it was horrific to watch, but SO important to be aware of. I feel sick. My heart aches for the families who lost their beloved kitties to this death trap of a machine.
Bottom line, if it's not safe to have around a toddler, then it's not safe to have around a cat.
It's literally just a guillotine, but somehow even less humane.
The basic design is bad. Like you say, the way it rotates means there is always a way to trap cats. Relying on sensors is second best at most.
You don't even need sensors, A spring loaded clutch plate or pulley would do the job. Granted, it can be difficult to engineer something that's going to protect against a small cat getting stuck, but it's not really that hard or expensive. They clearly didn't even bother to test this as it's one of the easier eventualities to test for.
Even better they could have designed it not to have an opening which gets closed during the cleaning cycle. That way there’s nothing to trap the cat under any circumstances
@@molybdomancer195The most recent version of the Litter Robot actually has no door at all, it just rotates on one axis. My family owns one and we actually don’t smell anything even after the cat’s used it. It also moves fairly slow, meaning it doesn’t kick up litter dust.
Personally, I’d just get one without a door. A door means more sensors and more places for safety controls to fail.
One idea I had to try and make it safer; a bigger opening, pieces that pop off if something gets stuck as a just in case, and a MANUAL door. Like, on hinges. To start the cleaning cycle, just CLOSE THE DOOR MANUALLY. If no cats OR children/other animals or parts were detected, the door would lock and start the process. If something WAS detected, the machine would beep for a few minutes (loudly so that people can hear it and get whatever’s in there out) and NOT start the cleaning process until whatever was in there is removed. I feel like that could greatly reduce the risk of cats getting caught in the door because it had motors that were too powerful, because there would be NO MOTORS in the door itself except for the lock, and in the box to clean it, and even then, those are WEAK motors.
I just started shopping for an affordable automatic litterbox, and I'm so glad youtube suggested this video to me. The model I had decided to buy isn't exactly the same as these, but it does rotate on the same axis and the interior can become completely enclosed. I can't imagine finding one of my cats in that situation. I feel so bad for Carli and her kitty.
@@AbicusBananicus which machine?
Shame on any company that does not do their due diligence around safety features. Thanks for bringing awareness about these dodgy machines. I would be devastated if my cat met an early life due to company greed and shady practices.
The company does not care about the animals it hurt. Just like in game development. Companies do not test anymore, they release the product and test it on the consumers who buy it. It there are no problems it passed the test. If it didn't and animals die or get hurt? Oops. The executives probably make mean jokes about it.
Temu are selling these now too
What gets me is that there are several ways this sort of thing could be avoided. The cheapest being to use nylon gears engineered to place a limit on how much force can be applied to the mechanism. The neck is always going to be kind of delicate, but weaker gears would probably do the job. This is also a situation where using a flywheel to drive it or adding a sensor to indicate that the door has come into contact with something would do the job as well.
I'm sure there are a bunch of other ways of doing this, but this sort of thing is why engineers generally get certified before practicing in many parts of the world. This was completely foreseeable and completely avoidable.
@@SmallSpoonBrigadethere's multiple ways past that too. First, don't have a solid ring for the entrance, next, monitor the draw on the motors. If it spikes, make it back off and stop. This kind of sensing technology has been in garage doors for many years. It's unexcusable that this was pushed to market with that kind of flaw.
china is pretty behind on animal cruelty laws. or realizing that animals are sentient.
I don't even use self-cleaning litter boxes, but decided to watch this out of curiosity since I have 4 cats. I'm literally in tears right now! This breaks my heart so much to imagine the pain and fear these cats went through. These companies are disgusting!
Just thinking about if my family ever gets this, (which they WONT because ill tell them to not buy any of these machines) then seeing my cat just dead from the machine, I just CANT think of it! It makes me so sad!
I have 2 cats, never thought about buying an automatic litter box, and I don’t plan on watching this video. I just can’t bring myself to it, the thought of people talking about THEIR kitties being horribly killed by a machine, no, I just can’t… but I would like the video and comment to feed the algorithm; more cat people NEED to know about this… I know is tedious, kinda time consuming and sometimes gross to clean the litter box, but I take scoop poop and urine balls for a million years than seeing (or find) my babies being decapitated or crushed to death ( as comments mention) without any posible way of helping them…. NO, JUST NO, I hope the poor cat tutors of this babies find solace and just THANK THEM for sharing this devastating stories to shed light on this topic for the sake of saving other kitties lives and spare the owners of experiencing such a traumatic experience…l how horrible 😞
I have 1 adult male cat and 2 kittens, I never thought of buying any those machines..
The test with the banana made me feel sick, the way it took multiple “pushes” for it to even actually break it fully. The thought of a cats neck stuck there, first being crushed, then snapped, and only after, what, 15-30 minutes, being fully killed, that is, if they dont bleed out by then? Disgusting. I wish could say i cant believe these people, but this is the exact thing i expect from companies. Never believe that a company, no matter how well-reviewed, only has your best interest at heart. Of course, some products are genuinely good and fully succeed at the task, but in the end, it’s just because being good is profitable. Thank you for making this, praying no more babies are lost to this disgusting machine, that they arent produced anymore, and that Mochi can at least be a martyr and not just a tragedy in vain. Sending all the love to her mama, she’s so strong for sharing so quickly, even with how obviously hard it was for her to make that video, and so soon after it happened, it’s incredibly noble to want it out there asap so as many cats can be spared as possible.
I know right the TikTok ladys poor cat
must have been in so much pain no cat should ever go through it makes me sick that the people making these things knows its killing cats but stills sells them its truly awfull
That is terrifying! My heart breaks for the loss of these innocent cats lives…needlessly. Unreal. I’ve always been afraid to get a robot litter box for my cat. Do your research when purchasing. That’s all I can say. Thank you for doing this investigation & posting your findings. Hopefully, you saved even one innocent cat’s life. 🐾❤️🐾
i just cried at mochis story. finding your baby in that state must’ve been so scary for her family.
5:34 that’s so terrifying and horrendous. I’d lose my mind if I found any cat like that.
just imagining what any poor kitty would be feeling in that moment makes me so so sad and furious!!!!
I started crying omg.
This would literally make my blood run cold before frantic trying to save the cat
You said it! I don’t even own a pet, but this brought tears to my eyes!😢
I was in tears just seeing the stuffed toy stuck!
Same. Was gagging over the imagery. Glad he is informing the public on this.
Same 😭
Had my hands over my mouth... I wanted to cry. Seeing it continue to close until GRINDING its mechanisms loudly at the resistance was f***ing horrifying )':
@@christinacody8653 And thankfully penguinz0/Charlie covered this video today so it has reached an even wider audience, the news will continue to hopefully spread 🙏
This is absolutely disturbing. Thank you for doing this, people need this information.
This is such a fantastic PSA! I’m disabled and on a limited income, so the idea of a cheaper automatic litter box is, on the surface, quite appealing. Your research into this has possibly saved the lives of my cats, and me from the years of heartbreak I know I would suffer if one of my angels were to be harmed in such a contraption. Thank you so much for your work!!
This!^^ these kinds of things prey in people in bad places already, who are lower income, disabled, or older, and want to give their cats a cleaner litter box, which only causes more devistation (not saying that ppl who are doing well dont love their animals, but often someone's pet might be the only good thing in their life). This video is informational and explanitory in a way that not many actual psas manage!
He has many videos reviewing good automatic litter boxes, you should check them out! If possible I'd suggest saving for an highly reliable one even if it's expensive, I'm sure it'd be worth it.
Jesus Christ. I was already sick enough, but the test with the plush cat brought tears to my eyes. What a horrifically harrowing ten seconds. I genuinely don’t think I can watch the rest of this video, but I wanted to comment for the algorithm and leave it to play in full with my earbuds out. Thank you - this video could save lives.
Same, I always leave these videos in advance because I don't have the strength to finish it. Charlie's video and even some other content creators' videos too. I only clicked on it to help with the algorithm and let the video runs the first few minutes while I look at the comment.
As someone with ADHD to the point of forgetting to eat, I’ve always wanted a self cleaning litter for my cats. I love them dearly and I don’t want my mental state to dictate their cleanliness, they deserve a clean litter box. I’m so thankful for videos like these and so many others showcasing this horrible company. This needs to stop! We need safe, vet approved machines that won’t decapitate our cats 😭 I would never buy from cheap sites like temu or aliexpress, they’re always dump quality and they break so easily, sometimes even creating plastic shards that can harm animals. Utterly disgusting. I urge everyone to avoid these sites altogether, they’re a waste of money
Thank you for commenting this
Speaking as a person with adhd who experiences the same struggles, I do recommend getting the litter robot from whisker themselves. I put my 2023 tax refund toward one, and it has completely changed my life for the better. I have a litter robot 4 and use the official whisker app to track weights and use times. I know people with both the 3 and the 4. None of us have ever had any issues, though occasionally the machine gets dusty, or I have to reach in with a scoop to dislodge stubborn clumps. Sometimes, the trash liner gets inflated by trapped air and the sensor reads the drawer as fuller than it actually is. But otherwise, it has completely solved the problems I was having with cat boxes. ADHD, asthma, sensory issues, fibromyalgia, depression... These things would make it difficult for me to keep the box clean for my cats. Nowadays, I will catch my cats going into the bathroom, seeing it's cycling, and patiently waiting for their turn. My one cat (who was extremely skittish for over a month by its presence) will see it has been used (but not cycled yet) and choose to leave and return later to use it when it's clean. It's worth it to get the real deal. Don't settle for a cheap knockoff like these.
@@ixeliema that was indeed my plan, once I actually manage to get a job (still a college student). These things are expensive but so worth it, i really hope I can afford it soon 😊
blame the ADHD for being lazy!
If your ADHD is so severe that you forget to eat, I hope there are other people that can take care of your cats properly