My wife and I designed and built our handicap accessible house just under 4000 sq ft 6 years ago. We did 90 percent ourselves it took us 2 years to build. We did our homework. We used fiberglass casement windows as we are in a windy area. Almet Stone coated metal roofing with plywood roof decking with gortex underlayment. We had an awesome foam installer who sprayed our house with closed cell foam underneath our roof decking and all exterior walls. Creating an airtight well insulated home. The closed cell foam added strength to our 2 x 6 and truss floor joist home. We used cases of liquid nail with nails and 3in deck screws to ensure strength and quality. We have forced air a/c and gas heating with a whole house air exchanger. Basement outerwalls are 10 in block fully poured and coated with fiberglass enforced tar, we added insulation using 4in x 4ft x 8ft ES foam and back filled with 2b Gravel with French Drains around the 24in footers. Bubblewrap underlayment for concrete floors. We installed Everlast solid vinyl siding to the exterior. We had plaster coating to all interior walls. After six years, not even one Crack in any of the walls or even a door that needed adjustment. Overkill, maybe, but no regrets for doing more than the minimum. We paid for two years of builder's insurance with no regrets. Sound proof, energy efficient, low maintenance, and handicap accessible home, which took more time and cost more, but loving it every day. We still say we can't believe this is our house.
The key to any good build isn't in the upgraded cosmetics. It's all behind the walls and ceilings. Stuff you can't see. Most folks don't understand that. They think the stone countertops, and 5K appliances are the real investment. It's not in those changable finishes. That's all glamour and awe. Its in the weatherproofing, electrical, plumbing, and structure itself. Without sound construction the rest is wasted money. Thanks for reminding us of that.
My father in law is a contractor. He wouldn’t even start a talk about doing an addition if we weren’t willing to spray foam. We recently built a large home that he oversaw. He wouldn’t let us use a builder unless they let us spray foam, use Marvin windows, and allow him to be project manager. Thankfully the builder was awesome to work with and allowed us to do anything we wanted.
Are you using E 84 Foam for FR? it contains borates that would stop termites. Make sure your Pest guy does your wood treatments before the Foam, Boracare is the best protection against decay and termites - protect the wood and your home forever before the foam.
I did spray foam under the roof decks of an ICF home. So far so good, but finding good spray foam contractors is REALLY tough... My first guy did a decent job, though a bit more messy than I was expecting. He was totally booked when it came time to spray the main roof deck so I went with a local contractor that was VERY new. I ended up troubleshooting his rig because it would not spray well. We got it working better after a tip change to the gun, but the final product looks very rough. I had them spray a bit more just to be sure that I got enough coverage and insulation, but it was disappointing to say the least. Shared your channel with them in hopes that they improve for future customers...
Sorry to hear that. Maybe in time things will get better as more are inspired to pull up their socks. Alas many should not be in this business, it gives the illusion of being easy; it takes real men to get this done.
Sadly, spray foam costs double or triple other options and in your vicinity you may have only one or two companies doing the application and these are relatively new firms because there are just no guys around who can honor warranty work - and the guys who are here are three weeks out and cancel on you the day of application. It's so specialized and so expensive the commercial developer just can't be bothered by it.
Yeah dude I agree. People need to learn more about spray foam. You don’t have to do your walls and ceiling if you can’t budget for that. But use it where it matters. Under your basement slab, around the rim boards ect.
I live in the south and have an older house. My house has ridge vents and side draft exits, do this stay? I heard the house needs to breathe? Also, can I leave in my lower blown in insulation?
This has worked well, subs are way up. I will get paid, and have new viewers on the videos that go into great detail about all the things the whiners are complaining about.
@@SprayJones all due respect to everyone. That said... The devil's in the details! Heard that alot growing up. Ya don't know what you don't know --- until you know it. What I'm saying is I had no freaking idea about 90 percent of what you're talking about being important things untill I found your channel, literally last night. So I kinda thought I had it figured out. WRONG! Heads swimming with over 10 hours of your video content. Now it's processing time n re-evaluation Tiny home is in the near future for myself and my son. 1 last huraaaa for me that has to last his lifetime. Off the grid, so every Watt counts. He's super allergic, thanks covids, so super sealed able to withstand our desert heat n constant wind....I've so much more to learn from you n others. Keep preaching brother, your knowledge is our blessing. Blessings abundant Sir! Crawford out 🙏🔥⚒️🧙🏼♂️
I've watched 1000's of video on stuff I am looking into for my new home! Basement ICF walls, SUPERIOR Walls, spray foam, metal joists, poured slab using ICF decking or steel decking, electrical smart panels, PEX plumbing, tile flooring, radiant floor heating systems, LED lighting, IoT for security systems, smart home wiring, steel buildings, bandonions, rock wool insulation, windows, doors, ODH(on demand heaters) solar panel system, battery backup and many more topics. Looking and watching videos are free!!!!
I would say away from spray foaming the attic plywood because your roof may develop a leak over time and you will never know it because the foam will absorb the water and rot out sections of your roof
Hey Mike! Could you comment on these northern climate possible wall variations: 1) Exterior 2" rigid directly installed onto 2"×4" studs followed with 2" spray 2lb closed cell foam application in cavity. 2) 2"×4" osb exterior wall with 1" 2lb closed foam followed by 2.5" of .5lb open cell foam to gill the cavity.. Thanks!
Cool channel! Interesring info! Ty. Im in Alberta, BURRR yes. So I can spray foam my new galvanized shed? Wow I need 2 watch all ur vids! Where are u located ?
We start breaking ground in September to build our barndo on a slab foundation in KY. We are using zip osb on roof and siding. I was doing some research on what type of spray foam to use against osb, we have decided to use open cell spray foam on roof deck and walls because it will be going directly on osb. Still deciding if we need to use foam board insulation under slab though. Your thoughts on this.
We spray foam under slabs with closed cell. I have video for "in contact with ground." There is no issue with closed cell against OSB. We do that all the time where we are.
@@armandoyourpersonaljeweler7558 Cost, physical properties, structural support, moisture movement in / out. Yes there are a lot of differences. Like towing a trailer with a big block gas engine or a diesel.
Ok great info although the builder had to study for and pay for a license and they are building day in day out they choose to be a builder and I feel I give the builder my house plan they should know what's best for the house that being built. If I need to do my home work and learn all the in's and out's of building then what's the point of hiring out other then my time 🤷♂️
They have to study and pay for a license. Ok what do they study? What products and processes are included? How long did the they study? How many fail the exam? Who will remove their license? Under what conditions?
In Arkansas to get a contractors license you have to pass an exam, which is open book. The book is called "NASCLA Contractors Guide to Business, :Law, and project management." Plus you have to have 3 people youve done small projects for. I personally dont think you should ever hire someone not licensed, but not everyone licensed is qualified to build either.
Quick question for ya. I have a 14x32 lofted barn cabin with soffit vents and a ridge vent. If I go with spray foam,should all of those vents be sprayed over with the foam to make the entire ceiling area air tight? I think the answer is yes, but would love to get your opinion please. Thanks.
Yes. Please watch the 4 part series on non-vented roofs. That question is so basic and means you need to learn about the process you are endeavoring to do.
I have gape under floor . It could be at least 2feet down. Because of this our front sitting room is very cold in winter. There is big air flow in here. I am thinking to fill this gap with foam spray rather than concrete. What will be your advise?
You need to open the floor up from the top down. Then you can see properly to know where to place SPF to solve the issue. Otherwise you are working in the dark and foam is costly to just fill endlessly.
@@SprayJones whats the difference in all the BASF walltites or spraytites? I promise no contractors around here know the difference! wish you would come south and I'd have you spray a 30 set job.
Guy talks for 10 minutes about the virtues and necessity of getting educated about spray foam and does no educating. I guess it's a good hook for the channel? 😂
Yes it is. There is too much to talk about in 10 mins anyhow. If I had talked you'd bitch about how long it was or that I missed something. Watch some more vids...
MattR gets a shoutout! MichaelSJ: what is the closed cell application standard that can be incorporated into a contract? Your videos always show such a smooth, even application of apparently properly prepared product and substrate with strong adhesion to adjoining wood members. So what standard details that quality? Need it in writing to avoid sun nightmare.
The suppliers have written documents that each SPF installer then submits to their local jurisdictions for approval. From there it is installed as submitted.
@@SprayJones link? Yes, it did burn like napalm. Perhaps not your brand? 4-5 years ago I watched a $6m cellar burn down, started from welding sparks, didn't take long at all.
@@orisisseibert3507 Go watch my video on us burning the SPF. It is in the health and safety play list. Data? Go look at Huntsman or BASF tech data they all pass the S102 corner wall fire endurance test which is pass / fail and one of the toughest in the industry.
@Spray Jones This is exactly what i wanted to see. It has been a good 5 years since i have seen spray foam products, and the codes required intumescent paint; on all red iron before foam, and all foam after application. Note: the foam was yellow, not purple. (I have seen lumber coated purple for fire ratings. ) To me, this is your golden advertising nugget! Thanks th-cam.com/video/2ZBa1ijiHwY/w-d-xo.html
They dont mention it because it’s very expensive has to go in 1 “ at a time 1st” is r7 2nd” is r8 so 2inches is R15. Cost is a major factor Do your homework
As an architect, I never specify toxic materials. There are some great natural products for insulation that don't require a hazmat suit to install, and provide a much better interior air quality than spray foam
Hey architect. It's time to refresh your knowledge about spray foam and possibly a host of other systems in the building industry. You dont want to rely on old knowledge in an indudtry that is constantly changing.
As a customer, if a builder isn't up to date with current products then why the hell would I hire him to do a job for me? Yeah I get it, I should do some research. But in the end, building homes isn't my profession. That's what builders are for. Keep up with the times or get left behind. Fight me.
I like your thoughts, you'd find the hiring pool for builders to be slim pickings based on that criteria. That is what I am trying to wise people up on.
What a pathetic excuse. Contractors don't have time to stay educated in current technology. A contractor has a responsibility, a requirement to stay current it's part of the job. If the customer needs to be better educated in every aspect of the conversation of the property, why does the customer need the contractor? Just hire some day labor.
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My wife and I designed and built our handicap accessible house just under 4000 sq ft 6 years ago. We did 90 percent ourselves it took us 2 years to build. We did our homework. We used fiberglass casement windows as we are in a windy area. Almet Stone coated metal roofing with plywood roof decking with gortex underlayment. We had an awesome foam installer who sprayed our house with closed cell foam underneath our roof decking and all exterior walls. Creating an airtight well insulated home. The closed cell foam added strength to our 2 x 6 and truss floor joist home. We used cases of liquid nail with nails and 3in deck screws to ensure strength and quality. We have forced air a/c and gas heating with a whole house air exchanger. Basement outerwalls are 10 in block fully poured and coated with fiberglass enforced tar, we added insulation using 4in x 4ft x 8ft ES foam and back filled with 2b Gravel with French Drains around the 24in footers. Bubblewrap underlayment for concrete floors. We installed Everlast solid vinyl siding to the exterior. We had plaster coating to all interior walls. After six years, not even one Crack in any of the walls or even a door that needed adjustment. Overkill, maybe, but no regrets for doing more than the minimum. We paid for two years of builder's insurance with no regrets. Sound proof, energy efficient, low maintenance, and handicap accessible home, which took more time and cost more, but loving it every day. We still say we can't believe this is our house.
This is what I am talking about. Congrats.
Wow...that sounds great!
The key to any good build isn't in the upgraded cosmetics. It's all behind the walls and ceilings. Stuff you can't see. Most folks don't understand that. They think the stone countertops, and 5K appliances are the real investment. It's not in those changable finishes. That's all glamour and awe. Its in the weatherproofing, electrical, plumbing, and structure itself. Without sound construction the rest is wasted money. Thanks for reminding us of that.
My father in law is a contractor. He wouldn’t even start a talk about doing an addition if we weren’t willing to spray foam. We recently built a large home that he oversaw. He wouldn’t let us use a builder unless they let us spray foam, use Marvin windows, and allow him to be project manager. Thankfully the builder was awesome to work with and allowed us to do anything we wanted.
Great feedback.
Are you using E 84 Foam for FR? it contains borates that would stop termites. Make sure your Pest guy does your wood treatments before the Foam, Boracare is the best protection against decay and termites - protect the wood and your home forever before the foam.
I did spray foam under the roof decks of an ICF home. So far so good, but finding good spray foam contractors is REALLY tough... My first guy did a decent job, though a bit more messy than I was expecting. He was totally booked when it came time to spray the main roof deck so I went with a local contractor that was VERY new. I ended up troubleshooting his rig because it would not spray well. We got it working better after a tip change to the gun, but the final product looks very rough. I had them spray a bit more just to be sure that I got enough coverage and insulation, but it was disappointing to say the least. Shared your channel with them in hopes that they improve for future customers...
Sorry to hear that. Maybe in time things will get better as more are inspired to pull up their socks. Alas many should not be in this business, it gives the illusion of being easy; it takes real men to get this done.
Sadly, spray foam costs double or triple other options and in your vicinity you may have only one or two companies doing the application and these are relatively new firms because there are just no guys around who can honor warranty work - and the guys who are here are three weeks out and cancel on you the day of application. It's so specialized and so expensive the commercial developer just can't be bothered by it.
Yeah dude I agree. People need to learn more about spray foam. You don’t have to do your walls and ceiling if you can’t budget for that. But use it where it matters. Under your basement slab, around the rim boards ect.
I live in the south and have an older house. My house has ridge vents and side draft exits, do this stay? I heard the house needs to breathe? Also, can I leave in my lower blown in insulation?
This is how to expand 10 second talk into 10 minutes
This has worked well, subs are way up. I will get paid, and have new viewers on the videos that go into great detail about all the things the whiners are complaining about.
Well said - my thoughts exactly.
I mean - 'well said' to Koosha Rez.
@@SprayJones all due respect to everyone. That said...
The devil's in the details! Heard that alot growing up.
Ya don't know what you don't know --- until you know it.
What I'm saying is I had no freaking idea about 90 percent of what you're talking about being important things untill I found your channel, literally last night.
So I kinda thought I had it figured out. WRONG! Heads swimming with over 10 hours of your video content. Now it's processing time n re-evaluation
Tiny home is in the near future for myself and my son. 1 last huraaaa for me that has to last his lifetime. Off the grid, so every Watt counts. He's super allergic, thanks covids, so super sealed able to withstand our desert heat n constant wind....I've so much more to learn from you n others. Keep preaching brother, your knowledge is our blessing.
Blessings abundant Sir! Crawford out 🙏🔥⚒️🧙🏼♂️
New subscriber after this one!
I got a crawl space that makes my floor very cold in the winter.
120 year old house with a rock foundation.
Check out my playlist "in contact with ground" there are CS videos in there.
Thanks Mike!
What’s the point being made here?
More great content and explanation of your process and product
I've watched 1000's of video on stuff I am looking into for my new home! Basement ICF walls, SUPERIOR Walls, spray foam, metal joists, poured slab using ICF decking or steel decking, electrical smart panels, PEX plumbing, tile flooring, radiant floor heating systems, LED lighting, IoT for security systems, smart home wiring, steel buildings, bandonions, rock wool insulation, windows, doors, ODH(on demand heaters) solar panel system, battery backup and many more topics. Looking and watching videos are free!!!!
As always great video, thanks.
Thanks for watching!
I would say away from spray foaming the attic plywood because your roof may develop a leak over time and you will never know it because the foam will absorb the water and rot out sections of your roof
Go watch my 4 part series on roofs. The first two videos set up the answer to you comment.
What should you use? Hard Styrofoam?
Hey Mike!
Could you comment on these northern climate possible wall variations:
1) Exterior 2" rigid directly installed onto 2"×4" studs followed with 2" spray 2lb closed cell foam application in cavity.
2) 2"×4" osb exterior wall with 1" 2lb closed foam followed by 2.5" of .5lb open cell foam to gill the cavity..
Thanks!
Number 1 is better
An educated homeowner is a builders worst nightmare. The builder fights you tooth and nail even though you are the one paying for what you want.
Cool channel! Interesring info! Ty. Im in Alberta, BURRR yes. So I can spray foam my new galvanized shed? Wow I need 2 watch all ur vids! Where are u located ?
We start breaking ground in September to build our barndo on a slab foundation in KY. We are using zip osb on roof and siding. I was doing some research on what type of spray foam to use against osb, we have decided to use open cell spray foam on roof deck and walls because it will be going directly on osb. Still deciding if we need to use foam board insulation under slab though. Your thoughts on this.
We spray foam under slabs with closed cell. I have video for "in contact with ground."
There is no issue with closed cell against OSB. We do that all the time where we are.
@@SprayJones is there really a big difference between doing open and close to sell against OSB?
@@armandoyourpersonaljeweler7558 Cost, physical properties, structural support, moisture movement in / out. Yes there are a lot of differences.
Like towing a trailer with a big block gas engine or a diesel.
Ok great info although the builder had to study for and pay for a license and they are building day in day out they choose to be a builder and I feel I give the builder my house plan they should know what's best for the house that being built. If I need to do my home work and learn all the in's and out's of building then what's the point of hiring out other then my time 🤷♂️
They have to study and pay for a license. Ok what do they study? What products and processes are included? How long did the they study? How many fail the exam? Who will remove their license? Under what conditions?
In Arkansas to get a contractors license you have to pass an exam, which is open book. The book is called "NASCLA Contractors Guide to Business, :Law, and project management." Plus you have to have 3 people youve done small projects for. I personally dont think you should ever hire someone not licensed, but not everyone licensed is qualified to build either.
Quick question for ya.
I have a 14x32 lofted barn cabin with soffit vents and a ridge vent. If I go with spray foam,should all of those vents be sprayed over with the foam to make the entire ceiling area air tight? I think the answer is yes, but would love to get your opinion please. Thanks.
Yes. Please watch the 4 part series on non-vented roofs. That question is so basic and means you need to learn about the process you are endeavoring to do.
Would you have any advice for using froth pac or did spray kits I have a bush cabin and wanting to spray it
Yikes. So many things can go wrong with that. They aren't meant to spray big jobs with.
@@SprayJones I should have said the cabin is only 200 square feet
I have gape under floor . It could be at least 2feet down. Because of this our front sitting room is very cold in winter. There is big air flow in here. I am thinking to fill this gap with foam spray rather than concrete. What will be your advise?
You need to open the floor up from the top down. Then you can see properly to know where to place SPF to solve the issue.
Otherwise you are working in the dark and foam is costly to just fill endlessly.
Wait a minute I watched the whole thing and you didn't give any advice at all other than research
Go watch all the other vids on the channel.
@@SprayJones nah, I am good, one click bait headline, that didn't deliver is enough for me.
What’s the best r rated closed cell spray foam ? I want the best rated one and I’m wondered if it’s much cheaper to do yourself with proper gear
Get a pro to install.
@@SprayJones whats the difference in all the BASF walltites or spraytites? I promise no contractors around here know the difference! wish you would come south and I'd have you spray a 30 set job.
Guy talks for 10 minutes about the virtues and necessity of getting educated about spray foam and does no educating. I guess it's a good hook for the channel? 😂
Yes it is. There is too much to talk about in 10 mins anyhow. If I had talked you'd bitch about how long it was or that I missed something. Watch some more vids...
MattR gets a shoutout!
MichaelSJ: what is the closed cell application standard that can be incorporated into a contract? Your videos always show such a smooth, even application of apparently properly prepared product and substrate with strong adhesion to adjoining wood members. So what standard details that quality? Need it in writing to avoid sun nightmare.
The suppliers have written documents that each SPF installer then submits to their local jurisdictions for approval. From there it is installed as submitted.
10 min wasted
What exactly do you wish you builder would have told you ?
Pick a subject, walls, roofs, concrete, in ground, under-slab. My channel is dedicated to answering these topics.
Some insurance companies won't insure if one's roof has spray foam on it.🤷🏿
Think that’s just in 🇬🇧 uk
Does it still burn like nepalm?
Never did. Go watch my video where we burn it.
@@SprayJones link? Yes, it did burn like napalm. Perhaps not your brand? 4-5 years ago I watched a $6m cellar burn down, started from welding sparks, didn't take long at all.
@@orisisseibert3507 Go watch my video on us burning the SPF. It is in the health and safety play list.
Data? Go look at Huntsman or BASF tech data they all pass the S102 corner wall fire endurance test which is pass / fail and one of the toughest in the industry.
@Spray Jones
This is exactly what i wanted to see. It has been a good 5 years since i have seen spray foam products, and the codes required intumescent paint; on all red iron before foam, and all foam after application. Note: the foam was yellow, not purple. (I have seen lumber coated purple for fire ratings. )
To me, this is your golden advertising nugget!
Thanks
th-cam.com/video/2ZBa1ijiHwY/w-d-xo.html
Great content as always
The customers always right, even if he's dead wrong, he's paying for it.
The builder who left the job forgot this.
Idiots will drag you into their world of hurt. Walking away is necessary.
Lol at how many building types you said. Holy.
I'm just going to use Bondor panels for my house, exterior walls, roof and interior walls too.
This ain't the Bondor channel....
Well said Sir! thanks for the free education
Builders don't know krap
Waste of a vid. Good thing for fast fwrd
They dont mention it because it’s very expensive has to go in 1 “ at a time 1st” is r7 2nd” is r8 so 2inches is R15. Cost is a major factor
Do your homework
You need to watch more videos on "how much foam do I need." Or any others what I go into get details. SPF 101 is great play list.
this video is very talky. wish he could just do bullet points about best uses of spray foam, pros and cons ...
Check out the playlists on my channel. Lots of condensed info there to be found.
Same thoughts~~~
Most builders by far are clueless and don’t keep up with technology.
As an architect, I never specify toxic materials. There are some great natural products for insulation that don't require a hazmat suit to install, and provide a much better interior air quality than spray foam
As an architect..... as an architect..... as an architect..... as an architect.....as an architect.... as an architect.....
Hempcrete
The recyclability of spray foam does concern me. A lot easier to recycle glass or rock products, or even sheets of foam insulation.
Hey architect. It's time to refresh your knowledge about spray foam and possibly a host of other systems in the building industry. You dont want to rely on old knowledge in an indudtry that is constantly changing.
@Spray Jones I was a builder for 15 years before getting my degree in architecture. Maybe that will help or maybe it won't.
Honestly, too much talking and non-essential details. Just get to the point.
It's really a shame when you get a Contractor who does not know about the materials he/she is using.
I'm new to the channel. LOVE what you're doing.
Thanks. Welcome.
As a customer, if a builder isn't up to date with current products then why the hell would I hire him to do a job for me?
Yeah I get it, I should do some research. But in the end, building homes isn't my profession. That's what builders are for.
Keep up with the times or get left behind.
Fight me.
I like your thoughts, you'd find the hiring pool for builders to be slim pickings based on that criteria. That is what I am trying to wise people up on.
been a carpenter for over 20 years. don't do it people. spray foam is no good
Typical. That's all you got to say....?
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
I didn't get anything out of this video.
That's because you are weak minded and not looking. My whole channel is resource about SPF.
Bla bla bla~~~~~~~
Way too much talk. I can’t sit through this. Get to the damn point!
Too much tik tok. You are weak.
What a pathetic excuse. Contractors don't have time to stay educated in current technology. A contractor has a responsibility, a requirement to stay current it's part of the job.
If the customer needs to be better educated in every aspect of the conversation of the property, why does the customer need the contractor? Just hire some day labor.
A lot of talk with no help and no conclusion
A call to learn more. This whole channel is about subjects pertaining to SPF, check out more videos...
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Please tell me why I just wasted my time listening to this ?
Because they were out of Bud light and you had time to kill.