3Com PalmPilots were pretty dang neat. The built in mic and speaker, combined with the GSM modem it made a pretty neat not-so-smart-phone. And graffiti script was amazing once you got used to it.
Consoles and handhelds were always at least a decade behind... Have you ever seen triple screen for console? Have you tried the PSVR? It's just toys...
@@michalvalta5231 how is that even relevant also triple screen is absolutely terrible for most games. Only thing it's useful for is racing and simulators. PSVR was decent for when it came out too, and at a fair price. Controllers aside, it's just as good/bad as the Rift CV1.
@@michalvalta5231 every PDA and smartphone when the DS was new had resistive screens too. The DS line just stuck with it way longer. But a lot of cheaper phones even 2-3 years after the iPhone launch still used resistive too.
Colaman112 Apple bought/developed 3D Touch for the IPhone 6s-IPhone X (launch). It’s a feature I loved using, but they’ve cut it from the latest gen. It has multiple levels of pressure that it recognizes and is pretty useful as a “right click” feature. I hadn’t seen it used inside any app that isn’t made by Apple.
@@username4835 I'm not iPhone user, but AFAIK plenty of 3rd party apps have 3d touch functionality. Instagram (post preview in grid) and Telegram X (on iOS it's usual app I believe; message preview in chat list) come to my mind first (again, I didn't had or extensively used any iOS device and still could name two apps, so for sure there's way more). In most apps it's also available/doubled as long press though.
I love these kind of retrospective videos hosted by Linus, I think it really demonstrates his passion for technology more than a video about the latest and greatest hardware in a'lot of cases.
You should make a series of this kinda stuff. "Innovations of the past" Ground breaking technology of today becomes obsolete in just a few years time. Love to see you review old relics from the past.
You know what you should do.. A week in the life of Linus using only (insert year) hardware only. How will he cope trying to do his day to day only using old equipment.
I had the Ipaq, it seemed like it was from 2003 or so. If Microsoft had not bailed on the platform they could have easily beat Apple to the Iphone punch by 3 or 4 years. They just needed to hang in there until data services were more widely supported by the Telcos. The apps were easy to install and there was a fairly robust collection. Imagine how the game would have changed with Apple being the Metoo in the smartphone tech race.
@@ewmegoolies Not at all. Sure most "Pocket PC"s were better than the iPhone 2G, but things took a drastic turn with the iPhone 3G, 3GS, and 4. And those were all things Apple had in the pipeline for a longtime. I've used both platforms, and fiddled with the software, so I'm not just talking bs. The Windows Pocket PC 2002 Windows Mobile 6.5, was quite ancient in the underlying software (CE), and just wasn't conducive to the way modern smartphones (superphones?) are built/used/connected. So for Microsoft to dominate the field, they would have needed to be experimenting with both hardware and software of today: think AWP, Windows10 Pro, Surface Book, HP Elite X3.... but that vision needed to be acquired back in 2007. It wasn't, it took until 2010 for them to see things. By that time you had iOS 4.2 and iPhone 4, or Android 4.0.3 and Samsung NOTE, with both platforms budding off to build a huge ecosystem. It was essentially too little too late. But even worse than Windows Phone, was the effect it had on 2009-2015 competitors, like that of Palm/webOS, Nokia/maemo, Samsung/Bada, Blackberry/QNX and ZTE/FirefoxOS.
So much nostalgia in this video! I learned how to build a ROM in these old pocket PCs! I spent much of my middle school and high school time timing around with devices like these! Thank you so much for the blast from the past!
The snappiness probably makes sense if we believed the rumors that WM was developed using mpx200s as a testbed since wm2002.That device ran 6.5 relatively well given the phone ran at 144 mhz (originally 132 mhz), 32mb ram and 16mb rom that couldnt fully store roms newer than wm2005 and stored some of it in the sd card.
@@SegginsProductions for what they were they were a handy gadget. And it beat carrying around a paper calender, and this was still back before my phone could do much more than play snake. Although my phone after that and when I stopped issuing it was an original Nokia ngage so I don't tend to pick long term winners, but super ahead for its time tech ;D
Oh, I remember these. The nerdy beauty of having your calendar and contacts in your pocket. I loved it! You looked so PRO when you had one, it just felt awesome. One thing I do miss is, and it's not specific to the hardware, but rather the software -- is that when you used it, you were actually using your time wisely, and not just liking random, heavily-edited & filtered photos.
That's only natural. I remember when my ol' Galaxy S2 was "the shit", best of the best, only beaten by the Note. And now it's almost a relic of the past. Funny how I was dreaming of an iPhone back then (and a long time before), while slowly realizing that the new toy is just as good, if not better. Screw the "thinner is always better" manufacturer craze though.
Aside from the customization, my favorite part of old WinMobile and the few PDAs/Phones, was actually their handwriting recognition. It was super accurate and after clicking a text box, you could write anywhere on the screen in order to enter it as text in the box
Even that hp ipaq was considered low end hardware and feature phone quality back in the day when iPhones and Androids were asking for 1ghz CPUs in order for their phone os to run. It wasn't until the HTC HD2 showed the full potential and limitations of windows mobile was when touch based phones was the future of PCs in your Pocket.
@@SoulTouchMusic93 iOS never had that stutter issue unless you have phones with 1GB or less. Also, the reasons being Android and those fancy UI animations. Not to mention, app Devs suck at memory management and will allocate everything.
@@cunnyman Well iPhones are very well optimized, like this device appears to be. Android is basically designed to work on any random hardware config on the market. Every single android phone is different and none of them have their own optimized OS like iPhones do. The reasons you said apply too and are even worse due to lack of optimization.
To be fair, Palm Treo 600 didn't have file explorer either, and Palm OS didn't have browsable file system at that time. I always felt that Apple took inspiration from that.
wireless headphones will change your life. Imagine having one set of headphones that you can seamlessly switch between your iphone, ipads, imac, and watch. it's literally faster than unplugging and plugging a wired jack in and out. and you're completely wirelss so you no more getting tangled or ripping the stupid thing out. any disadvantages to wireless are OBLITERATED by the advantages. it's life changing
@@enshk79 well having headphones that I don't need to change , in my opinion, negates all the benefits of wireless. I'm always forgetting to charge my stuff as is they are just going to be another reason for me to carry giant power banks everywhere also, it takes a grand total of 2 seconds to put headphones away and have them not tangle instead of shoving them in some random pocket.
I LOVE the efficiency of any windows mobile version The fact that this thing still runs that snappy shows it Win8 mobile also ran and still runs awesome on my back up lumia 1020 (in case my phone breaks)
I don't like modern windows mobile OS. It's basically a locked down version of the original windows mobile. I loved the fact that I could use the file explorer to browse windows folders.
Windows phone 8 was based on the same NT kernel that ran Windows 8. It was a departure from the Window Ce kernel that ran Windows Phone 7. The same kernel that Pocket Pc/Windows Mobile was based on.
@@silvy7394 can't verify since I don't have a windows phone anymore, but I am pretty sure that you couldn't enter windows directory or edit registery files
@@frain_breeze1707 No sense. 3DS is plastic and can be scratched with a coin. Vast majority of phones use glass screens, can only be scratched with sand basically.
I still have one of these too, they really were ahead of their time. And toward the end I think they even came out with a few "cell phones" that ran Windows Mobile or CE. These really were great for advanced users allowing us to do things on them that nothing else really could in that compact form factor. Thanks for sharing...
Yeah, there were cell phones that ran Windows Mobile. That's pretty much what smartphones were like pre-Android and iOS. I remember my parents had one of the phones that ran Windows mobile and they had it for a very long time. I still distinctly remember bubble breaker and elements of that UI that Linus showed. I actually found my parent's old Windows Mobile phones in a drawer one of the times I was visiting a while back, so this video brought back some memories!
It's not really does nothing.. Linus just didn't assign anything on that button.. You can custom it for open some app or does some function if you want on tbe setting
Truth. I had an HTC Pro phone back in the day that came with WM 6 that I upgraded to WM 6.5. The interface is much nicer than what he showed. Plus it put the start button on the bottom left, where it belongs.
I had a Windows 5.0 one, used. It was great. I even used exactly the same media player that Linus did, and also Bubbles was amazing, oh and solitaire. No camera though, which was weird even for phones of the era.
I have one of those in my drawer at work, I wrote software for it and we sold it in a big otterbox for industrial use. We switched to trimble products once otterbox stopped selling the boxes and HP stopped selling the iPAQs. That connector has USB and RS-232 pins as well as DC IN. 240×320 (QVGA) resolution. You can mod the cradle with careful soldering to add a serial port pigtail. The great thing about Windows Mobile was that is was a subset of Win32, so you could write a program that used the same program code but different resources, and build it for both Windows Desktop and Windows Mobile, with very little conditional compilation. I did one where I only had to exclude the tooltips from WM and exclude the orientation switch from Desktop.
@@eduardoavila646 I need this question answered... I myself have used devices which only say they support 32gb, 64gb etc.... But have managed to use a card with double the capacity. I suspect that the controller on the card is what gives us this ability.
@@brenj In some cases, if it's anything like laptops/desktops, manufacturers say a device can only support up to X amount of capacity if that's only what a certain storage medium is available up to at that time.
I'm getting old... My dad had several PDAs, and eventually got some with phone capabilities built in(!), so I sometimes played games on them. In my head Windows Mobile was the coolest thing ever! EDIT I played Bubble Breaker ALL. THE. TIME. This is so nostalgic!
Well, I look at this and compare it to my first computer; an i386 with 20Mhz, 2MB of RAM and 110 MB HDD. It ran Microsoft DOS, Windows 3.0, Internet was not a known quantity at the time and it was actually designed to run software from a 1.2 MB 5.25'' floppy disk; the kind that actually was floppy unlike the much smaller and very not floppy 1.44 MB 3.5'' disks.... Boy did I waste a lot of time on that very, very first Sid Meyer's Civilization.
@Conor HTC was actually the ODM for almost all PDA brands, like all HP, Palm, Dell Axim were manufactured by HTC for their respective brands. Even my own HP iPAQ h2200 was made by HTC with codename HTC Greatwall, so I researched quite a bit about the company back in the day even with limited internet we had 15 years ago :D
exactly. i worked for Compaq and then HP when they took over. the ipaqs were branded HTC. mine is the Roadster Hx4700 or 05 or 10 depending on where in the world you were. the Roadster would have been the first smart ph if HP had not decided against it. they have a sim card slot, or a place where it should be . mine is still going strong.
I had the HTC Titan (Sprint Mogul) (2006ish?). It's what got me into hacking my phone, back when we called rom developers 'Chefs'. Before that I had a Dell Axim x3 (2004ish?).
@@emilschurr7533 I had a samsung i780 with windows mobile 6... had a lot of emulators installed on it... I remember playing final fantasy 7 on a psx emulator....
I've had my PC with the start menu in the top left for ... most of the time I've owned a PC. I can't see having it on the side, and I can't stand it being on the bottom (left).
I am astonished that the battery still works. They have a limited life, and both of mine don't hold a charge any more. Once the battery disconnects, it is basically factory reset. If you drop the device or put it in your pocket and cause a momentary disconnect if the battery terminals, same will occur. Another flaw was that it could only hold memory for a few seconds after removing your battery. The backup battery was never meant to hold memory for long because it was so ridiculously small. There was a windows mobile upgrade which used flash storage instead of ram to store stuff, but after upgrading half of your software would not work because of a complete lack of backwards compatibility.
Kappa I remember it not being too bad. The Windows phones from 07-10 were able to write on the screen and convert text - used it all the time. Also the gestures with the pen. I still have my iPaq, 2-windows phones (a Mogul), n something just like the iPaq but I can’t put my finger on what it is. Curious to find it now👍
Yeah the good ol days when tech was clunky, proprietary hardware made replacements a nightmare and support was garbage for the same reason... the good ol days
And they probably didn't come up with the brilliant plan to shove updates to it until it was bogged down an wouldn't boot anymore forcing you to buy a new one. (still don't know how that isn't like the ford dealership coming to your house 2 yr later an pouring sugar in your gas tank but hey what do i know)
Shane Potter having the option to keep using an outdated OS that can't run most apps properly isn't a good option also. If you don't like this whole "upgrading" idea you should stay away from technology.
Yeah, funny, how good ol' Stevie "invented" this when it was literally years old... I also had one of these back than... It was hilarious to watch everyone "discover" that apple "invention"... :D Steve jobs was like the most high profile scammer ever. :D
@@michalvalta5231 ya, Steve Job isn't a inventor. He was a CEO and great marketer. He just signed off on the actual engineers' designs and bought the company that invented the capacitive multi-touch screen.
Back then capacitive touch screens were useless with stylus pens and people who thought they knew technology never considered that they could merge a digitizer with capacitive screens.
@@stoptexting You can't use anything other than WPA2, I know because I have a Note 9 and tried it. Doing it with no password is probably a no-go as well as Linus' phone contains sensitive work data.
@@ArquerO53 You really think it is possible to hack into his phone with hotspot feature and it would happen in 1 hour (max) it would take to test this pocketPC?
@@TheSandowS No, I don't think so. It's not about being super paranoid about that, it's that the other businesses they work with are very stringent about data security in the contracts they have with LMG. Red tape and bureaucracy is a pain, but you risk damaging your professional relationships if you "slip".
Love this video! I actually still have that exact same Pocket PC. I used to store and update Excel spreadsheets on mine. Takes me back. Those devices were ahead of their time.
@@godschild5587 in the English (all variants) the start button is always on the left of the task bar if positioned at the top or bottom of the screen (without 3rd party software).
Love this. I still have my old iMate Jama and the O2 Atoms that I bought for me and my sister. Their batteries are already bloated but if you plugged them in they still worked. I even managed to install Android Froyo on my O2. Really good times.
I know right, I had an iPAQ just like Linus only before HP bought it out. So COMPAQ iPAQ 3630 released in April 2000, though I got mine around 2004 as I preferred to save my $10/wk pocket money for buying gadgets instead of going to movies after school.
Same here. Sony Clie 70 from 2001. Still runs. They were quite innovative. Often thought what might have happened if Sony had put cell phone capability in those. Might have beaten Apple to the punch.
Modern phones: dont last more than 2 days on a single charge Ancient phone: still works after 10 years Linus: "Somehow this lithium-ion battery is still running"
most pda's didnt have cell phones built into them, but the ones that did we called smart phones. the earliest one i can remember was a phone module that would plug in where that flash memory would go, kinda like sliding a gameboy game into the og gameboy but it had a tiny rubber antennae i think that poked out the top, maybe back in 1998-2001 or so
I remember using my dad’s htc gene running windows mobile 6.5. At the time “touch screen” was relatively new and rare. He had messed up the calibration setting somehow and stopped using it. He gave it to me to mess around, I found the right setting and bam! Everyone in school was using Nokia feature phones whereas I was using the “gene”. Made me feel so special.
The phrase you're looking for is "resistive touchscreen". You have two conductive layers separated by a resistive liquad. When you press on the screen the conductive layers complete a circuit.
I still own my HP Ipaq HW6515 and kept it in an otterbox. Still in mint condition, still works, and I have 10 spare batteries for it as well as docking stations and all the other accessories.
Dude. Don't advertise ring. Especially that app! Neighbors by ring gives local law enforcement access to all of your cameras WITHOUT asking you when they do it!
@@eduardoavila646 I'm sorry, but did you just say that as long as im not doing anything illegal that I should be fine forfeiting my fourth ammendment rights and my right to privacy? How about no. Say the cops are called because you're being too loud, your ..wife, we'll say, just happens to be loud in the bedroom. The police treat these as domestic disturbance calls. Given the significant amount that these calls can vary, anything from loud music to domestic violence or worse, they treat them as high priority calls. Standard practice would be to respond to the call as quickly as possible. Now, if you have the ring surveillance system throughout your house, they could simply pull up your cameras without asking and take a peek. On the bright side, the police can see that the disturbance is nothing serious, great for them, on the other hand, they are now watching as you have sex with your wife. This situation is simply the most benign example I could think of, there are many more, including the one where police could abuse this power. Personally, I feel that this sets a dangerous perecedent, one that could lead to far more invasive practices. Even if you are simply having a loud dispute with, let's say this time, same sex partner and, well, the responding officer isn't fond of your 'unconventional family'. Normally charges would not be filed as the officer usually has to be there for a charge of this nature, however, if he just looks at the cameras and sees that you are indeed having an escalating argument, they now have permisssion to enter the premeses, which who knows how this could escalate. It could end up with a citation or it could be nothing; it could also end with one or both of you being arrested or worse.
It's also not pressure sensitive. There aren't levels of pressure that are detected. He's just not pressing it hard enough to activate the touch matrix under the screen
Omg 😍 My dad had one of these around when I was in elementary school (I’m 16 now) and it had GPS. In school we were doing a test where we should go one kilometer and stop whenever we thought we reached it. I was the one who should track the exact distance we moved (because I had GPS). It truly was great and windows mobile was amazing for someone in elementary school.
Dude I started out with a Handspring, then graduated to a Sony Clie. Sony's PDA used their long skinny memory sticks I loved my PDAS they were the best!
I've been like 11-12 years old when with the help of my mom i bought a HP iPaq 214 handheld pc on a lease ( I had to pay from my own pocketmoney every month). I remember being the coolest guy in the school because of this thing. Was such an impressive tech by then. Still have it somewhere in my hometown in a drawer, however not sure if its still alive, but it would be nice to try it on. So much nostalgia.
I went through several Windows Mobile phone-type devices made by HTC, back when no one had heard of them (including me) because they only made devices for other companies/mobile networks etc to brand as their own. Basically the same as this, but with built-in phone functionality. So I have some thoughts to add in case anyone wants to know more about these things: 1:14 It's called a resistive touchscreen, and I used my fingernail most of the time rather than than messing about getting the stylus out whenever I wanted to use my phone. Mine didn't have the built-in fancy flipdown cover though. I once put it in the same pocket as my keys, and it came out with a scratch/gouge in the screen so deep that it was basically no longer functional (as it always thought that part of the screen was being pressed... and they don't support multi-touch). I think I managed to briefly restore some functionality by using some sticky tape on that bit of the screen to try to lift it a bit, but it got replaced on the insurance not long after that. And I think that was when I started using screen protectors. The earlier ones I had also used what they called a "trans-reflective" screen (transmissive + reflective), which I think basically meant there was a reflective layer somewhere between the backlight and the screen itself, and the backlight could be turned completely off while the (LCD) screen was still on. I think the idea was that it would be easier to see in direct sunlight, as well as saving a lot of power, but all I know is that it was almost impossible to use that way in normal lighting (I guess I didn't go out in the sun enough). They ditched that part on the later models though, I think at least partly because it caused a reduction in visible brightness from the backlight/screen quality. 3:55 On another one of my phones, at one point the dock connector decided to break. Like all the pins and the (normally) internal part of the connector totally snapped off the board inside the phone, and came away with the charger. I managed to keep that one going for a bit by very carefully laying near the edge of a table and aligning the pins for it to charge, but then it also had to be replaced by insurance. 5:06 Yeah, Windows Mobile was based on Windows (well technically Windows CE) so it was pretty powerful (or at least not deliberately restricted) in terms of allowing you to do low-level-ish, power-user type things like desktop Windows does (e.g. File Explorer as pointed out at 8:59), but not quite so good on being smooth and user-friendly etc. Just in case anyone's curious, the last version of it was (I think) 6.5. They'd already started rebranding it as "Windows Phone" by that point, but Windows Phone 7 (i.e. the first version of what modern Windows Phones run) was a totally different thing that they designed/built from scratch. It couldn't run any of the same programs etc (I don't think they were called apps in those days). And the first version of it didn't even support copy and paste and other such basic things (it seemed like they were copying the history of iOS a bit too closely), so I switched to Android at that point. 5:15 Assuming your device is anything like mine, that bottom middle button is a sort of OK/enter button, with a D-pad surrounding it. And those buttons aren't assignable, but yeah usually the rest are. It was theoretically possible to use them to navigate everything (apart from keyboard input I guess), i.e. by moving focus between onscreen elements using the D-pad and then pressing them with the middle button, but I think that did depend somewhat on the implementation of each particular app. My devices also had a physical start button which opened the start menu (i.e. the one at the top left) and phone answer/end buttons - and I vaguely seem to remember that the end call button also functioned like a home button if you pressed it when you weren't in a call, sending you back to the "Today" home-screen type thing. 6:43 The calendar (and contacts) were based on (or at least designed to fully sync with) Microsoft Exchange and meant for full-on business users, so yeah, they were pretty full-featured. 11:13 Yeah the earlier devices I had didn't have any flash memory - they used a portion of RAM as storage. So that meant they literally couldn't be turned off - the closest you could get was putting it on flight mode and then just turning off the screen - so those signs/people saying "Turn off all mobile phones" annoyed me. Like, "I LITERALLY CAN'T, OR I'LL LOSE EVERYTHING!" That also happened to me several times though, due to the battery running out when I was nowhere near a (compatible) charger, or just the whole thing crashing particularly spectacularly. It would basically boot up the same as from a factory reset - no contacts, nothing - so not particularly handy when it's your only phone and you're away from home. To be honest being told to turn it off was still pretty annoying on the later ones with flash memory though, cos they could be turned off but then they took at least 5 minutes to boot back up and be usable again. I'm pretty sure mine would lose all data (when the backup battery ran out) a very short time after the battery was removed/completely empty though... like a few hours at most. So I'm confused as to how yours still has all its data after all this time if it wasn't one that used separate flash memory for storage?!
many don't but I have used several that did recognize multiple points. My windows 98 laptop touchpad could to gestures like pinch to zoom, the pioneer radio I put in my car has a resistive touch screen and I can zoom in the map view using pinch instead of buttons too
@@TheJunky228 Your laptop touchpad was capacitive. Capacitive touch isn't a new technology, it was just not frequently used for touchscreens, as it was more expensive to implement transparently. Resistive touchscreens can, by design, only recognize one input at a time, however, it seems like some manufacturers segmented them, so one screen could recognize one input per zone. Maybe that's what's going on with the pioneer radio.
The amazing thing is what "came out of" that effort. Windows Personal Assistant and Phone ran on Windows CE - their realtime embedded OS. Writing and app for it used the standard Visual Studio path with a simple "target" addition. The same app on the desktop made the phone version with the only thing to deal with was the screen capability differences. Way ahead of its time. You use PlatformIO to do that now but this was 1998. This also was the first tablet/touchscreen effort and made way for the Surface. Several companies made the PDA also a phone - below the iPhone, but after the Palm Pilot (Q-Phone) and the Blackberry. What was really special was its Office integration. Outlook on this PDA was connected to your desktop Outlook. Word, Excel, Powerpoint files all "sync'd" the the host when you docked (this was pre-WIFI). Really, had Microsoft embraced the Internet and not fought the momentum, they could have had another dominant play on their hands. They bought the leading cellphone company - Nokia to do so but something just did not jell.
2006 Linus-being paranoid and putting a screen protector on a digital assistor
2019 Linus- drops a 10k$ cpu
I wish that were me some times...
Character development
Screen protectors are snake oil - change my mind
The "you know what that is? Growth." gif in reverse
Wait, you're Italian?
Linus has no qualms and doesn't give a second thought to taking apart a 8k Red camera but the 13 year old palm pilot is where he draws the line...
Not a palm pilot. Palm was crap! :) Compaq/HP iPAQ was king ;)
@@lmaoroflcopter thats what palm lasted longer lol
Sentimental value is priceless
3Com PalmPilots were pretty dang neat. The built in mic and speaker, combined with the GSM modem it made a pretty neat not-so-smart-phone.
And graffiti script was amazing once you got used to it.
its not a palm pilot, its windows mobile, the o.s that android was inspired by in the very beginning
His 13 year old PDA is more responsive than my year old budget phone.
what phone do you have?
@@tanishpatki4711 you beat me. I came to ask the same
Bet it's a budget Nokia. They so trash
The iPad is 10 years old so this is barely vintage.
not as good as my xiaomi mi a1 for $84
“This touch screen is pressure sensitive not capacitive”
*has Nintendo DS flashbacks*
Consoles and handhelds were always at least a decade behind... Have you ever seen triple screen for console? Have you tried the PSVR? It's just toys...
@@michalvalta5231 how is that even relevant
also triple screen is absolutely terrible for most games. Only thing it's useful for is racing and simulators.
PSVR was decent for when it came out too, and at a fair price. Controllers aside, it's just as good/bad as the Rift CV1.
@@michalvalta5231 every PDA and smartphone when the DS was new had resistive screens too. The DS line just stuck with it way longer. But a lot of cheaper phones even 2-3 years after the iPhone launch still used resistive too.
Next vid Linus will show us his 20 years old adult magazine collection from high school.
@GamingTV my thoughts exactly!!!
@DOUD featuring a rare copy of "gentlemen in sandals" highly sort after in the community
@DOUD he has a WIFE
@DOUD Well, to be fair, he's meeting David in the park...
@DOUD he said that he has a WIFE, not just that he is married
My parents still use pressure sensitive touch, when something isn't working on their iPhones.
Don't at least some iPhones actually have some kind of pressure sensitivity sensor? Don't think it's used that much by the software though.
Colaman112 Apple bought/developed 3D Touch for the IPhone 6s-IPhone X (launch). It’s a feature I loved using, but they’ve cut it from the latest gen.
It has multiple levels of pressure that it recognizes and is pretty useful as a “right click” feature. I hadn’t seen it used inside any app that isn’t made by Apple.
@@username4835 I'm not iPhone user, but AFAIK plenty of 3rd party apps have 3d touch functionality. Instagram (post preview in grid) and Telegram X (on iOS it's usual app I believe; message preview in chat list) come to my mind first (again, I didn't had or extensively used any iOS device and still could name two apps, so for sure there's way more). In most apps it's also available/doubled as long press though.
@@username4835 yeah a 6s and up
Is that code for hammer?
A new series we'll be calling "Stuff I found in my attic"
I'd watch it
Which in typical LTT fashion, would probably get one episode. Two at best.
*Shit I found in my attic
@@ianchroniclesyt or he would drop it and break it
A Swarm Of Angry Bees aaaaayyyyyy
I love these kind of retrospective videos hosted by Linus, I think it really demonstrates his passion for technology more than a video about the latest and greatest hardware in a'lot of cases.
You should make a series of this kinda stuff.
"Innovations of the past"
Ground breaking technology of today becomes obsolete in just a few years time.
Love to see you review old relics from the past.
Go check out LGR for old tech reviews!
My galaxy s2 was once one of the best but now just an relic of the past
Check out LGR instead of linus twink tips copying his ideas
Yes please. There are still things I think people would love to know about.
You know what you should do..
A week in the life of Linus using only (insert year) hardware only.
How will he cope trying to do his day to day only using old equipment.
Have Jake do it. Or a young staff
"is that all people need to know?" I don't think we needed to know any of this...
Amazing idea.
Lol yes! One week, Jake only gets a PDA as a mobile. No tablet for cheating!
#linusweek
You know you were here early when the title changed from "Ipaq" to "Pocket pc"
I had the Ipaq, it seemed like it was from 2003 or so. If Microsoft had not bailed on the platform they could have easily beat Apple to the Iphone punch by 3 or 4 years. They just needed to hang in there until data services were more widely supported by the Telcos. The apps were easy to install and there was a fairly robust collection. Imagine how the game would have changed with Apple being the Metoo in the smartphone tech race.
Title cant escape notification squad.
Such a poor name for the time period
Yeah saw that. And he said "Not an iPad"! LOL 🤣
@@ewmegoolies
Not at all.
Sure most "Pocket PC"s were better than the iPhone 2G, but things took a drastic turn with the iPhone 3G, 3GS, and 4. And those were all things Apple had in the pipeline for a longtime.
I've used both platforms, and fiddled with the software, so I'm not just talking bs. The Windows Pocket PC 2002 Windows Mobile 6.5, was quite ancient in the underlying software (CE), and just wasn't conducive to the way modern smartphones (superphones?) are built/used/connected.
So for Microsoft to dominate the field, they would have needed to be experimenting with both hardware and software of today: think AWP, Windows10 Pro, Surface Book, HP Elite X3.... but that vision needed to be acquired back in 2007. It wasn't, it took until 2010 for them to see things. By that time you had iOS 4.2 and iPhone 4, or Android 4.0.3 and Samsung NOTE, with both platforms budding off to build a huge ecosystem. It was essentially too little too late.
But even worse than Windows Phone, was the effect it had on 2009-2015 competitors, like that of Palm/webOS, Nokia/maemo, Samsung/Bada, Blackberry/QNX and ZTE/FirefoxOS.
So much nostalgia in this video! I learned how to build a ROM in these old pocket PCs! I spent much of my middle school and high school time timing around with devices like these! Thank you so much for the blast from the past!
Can we talk about how responsive the iPaq is when jumping back and forth thru apps? Some smartphones arent even that responsive lmao
That is what I was thinking the entire video
The snappiness probably makes sense if we believed the rumors that WM was developed using mpx200s as a testbed since wm2002.That device ran 6.5 relatively well given the phone ran at 144 mhz (originally 132 mhz), 32mb ram and 16mb rom that couldnt fully store roms newer than wm2005 and stored some of it in the sd card.
K
Modern Android and iOS have too much unnecessary crap running on the background, so, that's why.
5:34 start menu! in the top left opposed to the bottom right!
im sorry what?
maybe he meant phone Menu button? it was on bottom right, I still have some touchscreen device from 2010
I think he meant the list of all your android apps
Came here to say that xD
@@supercattelephone the list of all apps is bottom-left for me
I too exclusively use my windows devices looking in a mirror.
Oh god, oh no... Linus is explaining what a PDA was. Dear lord I'm getting old
Same, but now I want to find my 20-year-old Palm V and see whether it still boots
I had a palm pilot I bought used well post what it should of been useful to keep track of appointments and notes.
@@SegginsProductions for what they were they were a handy gadget. And it beat carrying around a paper calender, and this was still back before my phone could do much more than play snake. Although my phone after that and when I stopped issuing it was an original Nokia ngage so I don't tend to pick long term winners, but super ahead for its time tech ;D
i had dial up on my palm, 4g before 4g. still using nokia communicator as well
You not getting old, Linus is getting desperate for videos... simple.
"64 gigs of RAM"
*Flips table and spits drink out*
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Reads on screen correction.
*Slowly rearranges table and mops the spill*
Praveen Rajendran cringe
He did say megabytes earlier in the video, at least
Yeah, didn't catch on first, I thought 'Holy shit, 64gb? How?' Then I realised there was no way.
5:49 64 megs af ram
Oh, I remember these. The nerdy beauty of having your calendar and contacts in your pocket. I loved it! You looked so PRO when you had one, it just felt awesome. One thing I do miss is, and it's not specific to the hardware, but rather the software -- is that when you used it, you were actually using your time wisely, and not just liking random, heavily-edited & filtered photos.
2019: I found my old IPaq in an attic
*2029: I found my old iPhone Xs Max in an attic*
"Can you believe this didn't have 3d hdr?"
2089: I found my old body in the attic.
That's only natural. I remember when my ol' Galaxy S2 was "the shit", best of the best, only beaten by the Note. And now it's almost a relic of the past.
Funny how I was dreaming of an iPhone back then (and a long time before), while slowly realizing that the new toy is just as good, if not better.
Screw the "thinner is always better" manufacturer craze though.
@@elpapa68 2119: *AI robot*
i found my old human slave in the attic
@@djmhyde 3022: Remains of the Singularity. Can't belive I found my previous civilization in my [REDACTED]
The Start menu! But its on top left instead of bottom right. -- Linus
This video was a little cringey at times and felt kind of rushed... mistakes with info and we couldn't even see the screen half the time.
@@FlyboyHelosim Welcome to linus tech tips :)
Maybe he is using Windows Arabic or any other language written right to left their start menu is in bottom right
@@HBPLUS no
@@FlyboyHelosim It probably was rushed. I'd imagine some planned video got an unexpected delay or dropped part or something.
Aside from the customization, my favorite part of old WinMobile and the few PDAs/Phones, was actually their handwriting recognition. It was super accurate and after clicking a text box, you could write anywhere on the screen in order to enter it as text in the box
Anyone know the name of the app used to change system colours?
This device seems responsive af. I mean look at the usual tasks performance. No hiccups at all. Kudos to HP man.
And with 64 MB of ram. Now my phone has 3 gigs and it struggles sometimes. WTF do they use all that memory for?
Even that hp ipaq was considered low end hardware and feature phone quality back in the day when iPhones and Androids were asking for 1ghz CPUs in order for their phone os to run. It wasn't until the HTC HD2 showed the full potential and limitations of windows mobile was when touch based phones was the future of PCs in your Pocket.
if you check back the nokia devices, they were all fairly responsive with crappy cpu and memory thanks to Symbian os
@@SoulTouchMusic93
iOS never had that stutter issue unless you have phones with 1GB or less.
Also, the reasons being Android and those fancy UI animations. Not to mention, app Devs suck at memory management and will allocate everything.
@@cunnyman Well iPhones are very well optimized, like this device appears to be. Android is basically designed to work on any random hardware config on the market. Every single android phone is different and none of them have their own optimized OS like iPhones do. The reasons you said apply too and are even worse due to lack of optimization.
9:03 "still ahead of modern devices" yes i know, you mentioned it had a headphone jack
To be fair, Palm Treo 600 didn't have file explorer either, and Palm OS didn't have browsable file system at that time. I always felt that Apple took inspiration from that.
wireless headphones will change your life. Imagine having one set of headphones that you can seamlessly switch between your iphone, ipads, imac, and watch. it's literally faster than unplugging and plugging a wired jack in and out. and you're completely wirelss so you no more getting tangled or ripping the stupid thing out. any disadvantages to wireless are OBLITERATED by the advantages. it's life changing
@@enshk79 well having headphones that I don't need to change , in my opinion, negates all the benefits of wireless. I'm always forgetting to charge my stuff as is they are just going to be another reason for me to carry giant power banks everywhere also, it takes a grand total of 2 seconds to put headphones away and have them not tangle instead of shoving them in some random pocket.
And it has a working battery. How many 5 year old phones have working batteries... and that thing probably thrashed the battery as well.
@@promc7318 thank you for reminding me to charge my headphones
"My stylus is missing" words of every man with experience
The struggles of using PictoChat with only a finger were very, very real....
@@TrueRetroflection how me and my brother would speak at night when we were supposed to sleep lmao
I've still got my stylus from my nintendo ds lite and 3ds xl. Idk how I managed to do that though:p
Toothpick trick ^^
Only linus watches "media" on the go.
well at least now we know that he used that particular device a lot, back in college... to watch "media".
He ain't the only one. :^)
@@whytho1690 exactly i do too using public transportation
Hey... not ONLY linus. 🥲
I LOVE the efficiency of any windows mobile version
The fact that this thing still runs that snappy shows it
Win8 mobile also ran and still runs awesome on my back up lumia 1020 (in case my phone breaks)
I don't like modern windows mobile OS. It's basically a locked down version of the original windows mobile. I loved the fact that I could use the file explorer to browse windows folders.
@@greenblack6552 Uh...you can still use file explorer to browse windows folders in Mobile 10...
@@silvy7394 yep but mobile is now a dead failed project sadly. I had a lumia 630 and a lumia 640. :-(
Windows phone 8 was based on the same NT kernel that ran Windows 8. It was a departure from the Window Ce kernel that ran Windows Phone 7. The same kernel that Pocket Pc/Windows Mobile was based on.
@@silvy7394 can't verify since I don't have a windows phone anymore, but I am pretty sure that you couldn't enter windows directory or edit registery files
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@@BlitzPSH which minute?
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@@ricardorosas8500 10:37
Linus, about the screen. I think many of us know how those screens work. Or at least how they feel. They're still being sold on the Nintendo 3DS.
Yup and some car touch screens are resistive too.
Also machines in all work environments were people generally wear gloves.
@@frain_breeze1707 No sense. 3DS is plastic and can be scratched with a coin. Vast majority of phones use glass screens, can only be scratched with sand basically.
Andrew R glass is Made of sand
@@startingbark0356 Your brain is made of sand
I still have one of these too, they really were ahead of their time. And toward the end I think they even came out with a few "cell phones" that ran Windows Mobile or CE. These really were great for advanced users allowing us to do things on them that nothing else really could in that compact form factor. Thanks for sharing...
Yeah, there were cell phones that ran Windows Mobile. That's pretty much what smartphones were like pre-Android and iOS. I remember my parents had one of the phones that ran Windows mobile and they had it for a very long time. I still distinctly remember bubble breaker and elements of that UI that Linus showed. I actually found my parent's old Windows Mobile phones in a drawer one of the times I was visiting a while back, so this video brought back some memories!
"Media" I see you are man of culture as well ;)
Geir er bare en av ham ham. O. M noemmmmmmange flere vill nl//komm heisann og takk til alle som herjet avdeling hei
Linus in the 13 years...
"The Galaxy Note 9" i've had in my attic for 13 years...
*note 10
Certainly it would not be a Note 7 if he has a attic 13 years from now :))))
He raided area 51 before everyone and got it early
Except it won't work so it'll be a quick video.
@@Deepspace1insight probably would work better than a xs max 😬
"Start menu! But it's in the top left instead of the bottom right" Wait, what? The start menu is in the bottom right in canada? O.o
No... I live in Canada and it is in the bottom left. I think he simply made a simple mistake.
XDmasterXD I think you may have missed a joke
@@korbenbutterworth3479 I though that he really was wondering. Sorry if I missed the joke.
It should be in bottom left right as per international version ??
Its like this in Arabic 😂
You're right about Bubble Breaker being addictive as I loved playing it on my uncle's PDA. It's fun to see a little callback to this piece of tech.
I have almost that same model!
Ninja edit:
Those screens are transflective! They work in sunlight even with backlight off.
Same as game boy
I have a similar model, if not the same but a different colour. I havent had a charger for it in years
apple: we don’t have space for headphone jack
mobile desktop: hold my button that does nothing
actually funny wtf
It's not really does nothing.. Linus just didn't assign anything on that button.. You can custom it for open some app or does some function if you want on tbe setting
@@krisyannuruha5147 like a bixby button worth having.
@@Deepspace1insight 😂😂😂that burn
im wheezing 💀
Device in thumbnail has Windows Mobile 6.5
Linus' device has WM 5
I feel lied to.
Truth. I had an HTC Pro phone back in the day that came with WM 6 that I upgraded to WM 6.5. The interface is much nicer than what he showed. Plus it put the start button on the bottom left, where it belongs.
@@pv2xeek "back in the day"
I had a Windows 5.0 one, used. It was great. I even used exactly the same media player that Linus did, and also Bubbles was amazing, oh and solitaire. No camera though, which was weird even for phones of the era.
I actually have an old Samsung Code phone, it has Windows Mobile 6.5
WM 7 was when the decline started...although 6.5 was ok for the day and age
I have one of those in my drawer at work, I wrote software for it and we sold it in a big otterbox for industrial use. We switched to trimble products once otterbox stopped selling the boxes and HP stopped selling the iPAQs.
That connector has USB and RS-232 pins as well as DC IN.
240×320 (QVGA) resolution.
You can mod the cradle with careful soldering to add a serial port pigtail.
The great thing about Windows Mobile was that is was a subset of Win32, so you could write a program that used the same program code but different resources, and build it for both Windows Desktop and Windows Mobile, with very little conditional compilation. I did one where I only had to exclude the tooltips from WM and exclude the orientation switch from Desktop.
Linus: puts a screen protector because its worth 500
Also linus: a 6 figure priced camera? Lets open it up shall we
i have that model lol. i use it as a music player with a fat32 formatted 128gb CF card XD still works great :P
lol1 So do I !!!!
Wtf? It recognizes 128gb?
@@eduardoavila646 I need this question answered...
I myself have used devices which only say they support 32gb, 64gb etc.... But have managed to use a card with double the capacity. I suspect that the controller on the card is what gives us this ability.
@@brenj In some cases, if it's anything like laptops/desktops, manufacturers say a device can only support up to X amount of capacity if that's only what a certain storage medium is available up to at that time.
well, i have/had it too, i used it with TomTom gps software :)
hi Linus I'm from the Canadian Best Buy store in which you purchased that device and I'm here to let you know.......we want our charger back!!!!!
Why
And how tf best buy sold those things
Lol
@@Amir-wv8om r/whoosh
@@PatriotJay1776 Also lol
If you only had a device in your pocket you could use for this demo with wireless tethering..
If only...
Linus briefly forgets that hotspots are a thing
Also though about that... Although that thing would have been pretty useless for modern Internet anyway.
Difference after 10 years.
Linus: "From Painter to building the biggest tech channel on TH-cam".
Me: "Switches from WoW to WoW Classic"
worth it
I'm getting old... My dad had several PDAs, and eventually got some with phone capabilities built in(!), so I sometimes played games on them. In my head Windows Mobile was the coolest thing ever!
EDIT
I played Bubble Breaker ALL. THE. TIME. This is so nostalgic!
Well, I look at this and compare it to my first computer; an i386 with 20Mhz, 2MB of RAM and 110 MB HDD. It ran Microsoft DOS, Windows 3.0, Internet was not a known quantity at the time and it was actually designed to run software from a 1.2 MB 5.25'' floppy disk; the kind that actually was floppy unlike the much smaller and very not floppy 1.44 MB 3.5'' disks.... Boy did I waste a lot of time on that very, very first Sid Meyer's Civilization.
I played the ancient version of bubble breaker. It’s called jawbreaker on windows mobile 2003
Age of empires was available and I still have on my Toshiba e800
in 2008-09 one of my friend bought something like this from HTC. Back then HTC was famous for these quality things.
@Conor HTC was actually the ODM for almost all PDA brands, like all HP, Palm, Dell Axim were manufactured by HTC for their respective brands. Even my own HP iPAQ h2200 was made by HTC with codename HTC Greatwall, so I researched quite a bit about the company back in the day even with limited internet we had 15 years ago :D
exactly. i worked for Compaq and then HP when they took over. the ipaqs were branded HTC. mine is the Roadster Hx4700 or 05 or 10 depending on where in the world you were. the Roadster would have been the first smart ph if HP had not decided against it. they have a sim card slot, or a place where it should be . mine is still going strong.
I had the HTC Titan (Sprint Mogul) (2006ish?). It's what got me into hacking my phone, back when we called rom developers 'Chefs'. Before that I had a Dell Axim x3 (2004ish?).
Just opened my cupboard draw and oh my, found my AXIM Dell X30 PDA released in 2004. I agree the game for poping the bubbles was fun :P
There is also an flight simulator you can install on that thing I used to play, I think its called Leo's flight simulator or something like that ;-D
@@emilschurr7533 I had a samsung i780 with windows mobile 6... had a lot of emulators installed on it... I remember playing final fantasy 7 on a psx emulator....
5:35 Linus the type of guy having the start menue on the bottom RiGhT
I've had my PC with the start menu in the top left for ... most of the time I've owned a PC. I can't see having it on the side, and I can't stand it being on the bottom (left).
zakura ayame you’re disgusting!
@@zakuraayame5091 youre disgusting!
The backup battery is just there to maintain memory settings, not actually power it up.
bios battery
@@realcartoongirl so basically a CMOS battery -facepalm-
I am astonished that the battery still works. They have a limited life, and both of mine don't hold a charge any more. Once the battery disconnects, it is basically factory reset. If you drop the device or put it in your pocket and cause a momentary disconnect if the battery terminals, same will occur. Another flaw was that it could only hold memory for a few seconds after removing your battery. The backup battery was never meant to hold memory for long because it was so ridiculously small. There was a windows mobile upgrade which used flash storage instead of ram to store stuff, but after upgrading half of your software would not work because of a complete lack of backwards compatibility.
@@realcartoongirl CMOS battery
@Jake Britton Nowadays batteries go bad, swell up, and break the device they're in.
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me: just closes the video.
Or you can use the SponsorBlock extension.
Yes,you will get away
Robert Jansen R/woooosh
Somebody behind that camera was learning that day how to focus :)
Should have made an open mobile hotspot from your phone
Yea I really want to see the internet experience.
Kappa I remember it not being too bad. The Windows phones from 07-10 were able to write on the screen and convert text - used it all the time. Also the gestures with the pen.
I still have my iPaq, 2-windows phones (a Mogul), n something just like the iPaq but I can’t put my finger on what it is. Curious to find it now👍
Good old days when tech was made to last, not die as soon as its guarantie expires.
But Linus' first handheld died, too. lol
Yeah the good ol days when tech was clunky, proprietary hardware made replacements a nightmare and support was garbage for the same reason... the good ol days
Abe S oh boy. The proprietary battery charger connectors. Every single phone and device had a different one. The "good old days", indeed.
And they probably didn't come up with the brilliant plan to shove updates to it until it was bogged down an wouldn't boot anymore forcing you to buy a new one. (still don't know how that isn't like the ford dealership coming to your house 2 yr later an pouring sugar in your gas tank but hey what do i know)
Shane Potter having the option to keep using an outdated OS that can't run most apps properly isn't a good option also. If you don't like this whole "upgrading" idea you should stay away from technology.
5:35 ummm the windows start button isn't normally in the bottom right.
nice
Linus being linus.
^^
"Has this guy even used windows before?" would legit be an honest question... :/
well he is technically right cuz windows button depends on the system language , in English its bottom left other languages its different
@@ahmadgzail9 What language does he speak? lol...
now, fast forward to steve jobs keynote: "its an ipod, a phone and an internet communicator....."
Yeah, funny, how good ol' Stevie "invented" this when it was literally years old...
I also had one of these back than...
It was hilarious to watch everyone "discover" that apple "invention"... :D
Steve jobs was like the most high profile scammer ever. :D
@@michalvalta5231 ya, Steve Job isn't a inventor. He was a CEO and great marketer. He just signed off on the actual engineers' designs and bought the company that invented the capacitive multi-touch screen.
@@michalvalta5231 Apple never invents new stuff but in makes already existing stuff actually usable.
When I was little I've always wanted one of these! My Dad had one but when I got older I realized how useless it was nowadays.
I had one my dad just threw to me after he got a new phone, it was pretty cool back then, supreme mp3 player.
No you used it wrong, it was pretty awesome. Showing friends videos on the go was awesome! For real!
I actually use one of these right now. Web browsing and youtube playback is still possible.
@Khaffit i play that bubble game too on my father dopod, that one is very addictive game
Linus seemed like the type of person to use an iPaq since the very beginning.
Hearing resistive touch screens explained like they’re VHS tapes make me feel old
Remember those loud tapping noises now from theses things.
Back then capacitive touch screens were useless with stylus pens and people who thought they knew technology never considered that they could merge a digitizer with capacitive screens.
I remember when almost EVERYTHING was a resistive screen besides like the original iPhone and iPod Touch. Capacitive felt so revolutionary.
It has a unique feature modern phones don't have, a file explorer, Android has it since ever or at least after Android Market got introduced
He said some devices
He literally said "most flagship phones" not all
Of course Android has it since the very beginning... I am sure he was refering to the poor Apple plebs... :D
@@michalvalta5231 oh mate apple have had a file Explorer by the name of Ifile before android even took off
@@michalvalta5231 poor disgusting android pleb Apple is so much better than your garbage phone
Why didn't you setup a wireless hotspot to connect to the internet?
I thought this to
@@pingpong1138 he even had the phone in hand
If it were me I'd yank the old router out from the attic too and just quickly set that up if need be
@@elgurideparana2796 I think some devices don't support WPA hotspot, only wpa2, but one without a passcode should work so yah I'm with you
Because it’s rushed crappy video I guess.
Linus Sebastian:
Opens Red Camera worth thousands of dollars
Doesn't open 10 year old PDA because "it's sentimental"
At least he shows you that here are some things money can't buy. Sentimental Value > Monetary Value.
Should've used the wifi hotspot feature from your Note 9
That feature is only compatible with WPA2 as well, making it incompatible.
@@ArquerO53 you can change that or remove the password making it possible every device use it
@@stoptexting You can't use anything other than WPA2, I know because I have a Note 9 and tried it. Doing it with no password is probably a no-go as well as Linus' phone contains sensitive work data.
@@ArquerO53 You really think it is possible to hack into his phone with hotspot feature and it would happen in 1 hour (max) it would take to test this pocketPC?
@@TheSandowS No, I don't think so. It's not about being super paranoid about that, it's that the other businesses they work with are very stringent about data security in the contracts they have with LMG. Red tape and bureaucracy is a pain, but you risk damaging your professional relationships if you "slip".
Love this video! I actually still have that exact same Pocket PC. I used to store and update Excel spreadsheets on mine. Takes me back. Those devices were ahead of their time.
"the start button is in the top left instead of the bottom right"
What version of windows have you been using all these years Linus?
But you know, I bet there's an option for that.
You can make the bar onto the side of the computer screen instead of the bottom.
The Hebrew version. Writing is right to left and everything else is also backwards. Including the "Start" button.
You can change the location of toolbar.
@@godschild5587 in the English (all variants) the start button is always on the left of the task bar if positioned at the top or bottom of the screen (without 3rd party software).
Hair still hasn't changed from the time you got it untill now...
You'll wish you had his hairline in 10 years. maybe.
nobody cares how many likes you ve gotten now or before, they dont mean anything
You destroyed with you like hype edit... you destroyed it!
Camera focus is ALL OVER THE PLACE except the screen itself.
Love this. I still have my old iMate Jama and the O2 Atoms that I bought for me and my sister. Their batteries are already bloated but if you plugged them in they still worked. I even managed to install Android Froyo on my O2. Really good times.
I had a palmpilot in 2001
I used pencils when I lost styluses
I also had a pocket PC cell phone in 2004.
So, I got my first PDA more than 18 years ago
I know right, I had an iPAQ just like Linus only before HP bought it out.
So COMPAQ iPAQ 3630 released in April 2000, though I got mine around 2004 as I preferred to save my $10/wk pocket money for buying gadgets instead of going to movies after school.
@@MotoCat91 I miss my iPaq 3670 with CF Card Jacket. Great device series made by Compaq, created by HTC.
Palm Pilot with monochrome screen and a whole new alphabet to learn how to write.
And the cradle used serial. Yup, I'm that old...
Same here. Sony Clie 70 from 2001. Still runs. They were quite innovative. Often thought what might have happened if Sony had put cell phone capability in those. Might have beaten Apple to the punch.
A headphone jack, you say? Those are getting hard to find!
Like Galaxy Note10
like the iPhone 7
chinese made phones still have m and alot of them perform really well
no you can still find them in wires
Sadly
HP engineer: "remember that guys, its the last product we sold that actually worked"
G K damn only hurts because it’s true
It all makes sense now.
Linus "Media" Group ;-)
#LinusSexTips
They changed the title. Previously, it was "My ANCIENT "Pocket PC" Retro Review"
yea
Is anyone really surprised that Linus was and probably still is “that guy”?
He was impressed that I had him sign an LG V20, so no, I would not be.
Modern phones: dont last more than 2 days on a single charge
Ancient phone: still works after 10 years
Linus: "Somehow this lithium-ion battery is still running"
Pda*
That thing is probably drawing significantly less power than a modern smartphone.
Technically IMO phones today are more PDA than phone.
most pda's didnt have cell phones built into them, but the ones that did we called smart phones. the earliest one i can remember was a phone module that would plug in where that flash memory would go, kinda like sliding a gameboy game into the og gameboy but it had a tiny rubber antennae i think that poked out the top, maybe back in 1998-2001 or so
I remember using my dad’s htc gene running windows mobile 6.5. At the time “touch screen” was relatively new and rare.
He had messed up the calibration setting somehow and stopped using it. He gave it to me to mess around, I found the right setting and bam! Everyone in school was using Nokia feature phones whereas I was using the “gene”. Made me feel so special.
You should upgrade it to Windows Mobile 6.
Yay I can finally watch por-
I can finally watch pork on the go
Trust me, I did _that_. Poor experience... :/
Deku! You
@@user-mc5xr9ku6x Hey!
Be better of making a flip-book
Welcome back to Porkin' Across the USA with Jim Haggarty, today making a special detour to Canada
I found one in good conditions in the electronics trash. Man that thing is awesome!
I have a Compaq iPAQ btw
The phrase you're looking for is "resistive touchscreen". You have two conductive layers separated by a resistive liquad. When you press on the screen the conductive layers complete a circuit.
makes me happy that they brought back the hadphone jack and the sd card reader for the note 11
I can't tell but is this a joke?
@@user-tm3fz7qx3s it is, he's basically saying this is a note
@@KidTonyGaming OH! Thanks! This is funny.
Damn I loved bubble breaker on my IPAQ Voice Messenger
Can we take a moment to appreciate the amazing job LTT team has done on the studio?
Production value is so high on this channel!
Production value is high, yet dumb mistakes are made.
@@MKDC-5 good times.
I still own my HP Ipaq HW6515 and kept it in an otterbox. Still in mint condition, still works, and I have 10 spare batteries for it as well as docking stations and all the other accessories.
Dude. Don't advertise ring. Especially that app! Neighbors by ring gives local law enforcement access to all of your cameras WITHOUT asking you when they do it!
I'm sure it's in the print somewhere. That is interesting though... glad to know
@@noahlail4018 I'm sure it is, however, the police don't need to ask you first before using them
I mean if you dont do any doggy or suspicious thing i dont think you should worry about it anyway
@@eduardoavila646 I'm sorry, but did you just say that as long as im not doing anything illegal that I should be fine forfeiting my fourth ammendment rights and my right to privacy? How about no. Say the cops are called because you're being too loud, your ..wife, we'll say, just happens to be loud in the bedroom. The police treat these as domestic disturbance calls. Given the significant amount that these calls can vary, anything from loud music to domestic violence or worse, they treat them as high priority calls. Standard practice would be to respond to the call as quickly as possible. Now, if you have the ring surveillance system throughout your house, they could simply pull up your cameras without asking and take a peek. On the bright side, the police can see that the disturbance is nothing serious, great for them, on the other hand, they are now watching as you have sex with your wife. This situation is simply the most benign example I could think of, there are many more, including the one where police could abuse this power. Personally, I feel that this sets a dangerous perecedent, one that could lead to far more invasive practices. Even if you are simply having a loud dispute with, let's say this time, same sex partner and, well, the responding officer isn't fond of your 'unconventional family'. Normally charges would not be filed as the officer usually has to be there for a charge of this nature, however, if he just looks at the cameras and sees that you are indeed having an escalating argument, they now have permisssion to enter the premeses, which who knows how this could escalate. It could end up with a citation or it could be nothing; it could also end with one or both of you being arrested or worse.
Bubblebreaker ... sweet memories :D
It was really addictive^^
I think da best game ever
Lost hours and hours to that damn game!
That first statement rings incredibly true Linus
Cool little Pocket PC.
"Ring...Snitching on neighbors since 2019"
It's called resistive touch, Linus. You failed to teach that.
bruh its a furry
It's also not pressure sensitive. There aren't levels of pressure that are detected. He's just not pressing it hard enough to activate the touch matrix under the screen
Nintendo Touchscreens intensifies
its called resistive touch because it mainly resist your touches
hell back then the waicomm ones were amazing optic sensors
I'm guessing the "media" Linus is talking about is the same "media" for which I'll be buying a VR headset
* Wink Wink
wow need to use dongle for charging while data transfer...
futuristic.
Omg 😍 My dad had one of these around when I was in elementary school (I’m 16 now) and it had GPS. In school we were doing a test where we should go one kilometer and stop whenever we thought we reached it. I was the one who should track the exact distance we moved (because I had GPS). It truly was great and windows mobile was amazing for someone in elementary school.
3:34
"It is SOOOO THICC"
-Linus, 2019
@mshesh16 ikr
> Windows Mobile
> Ancient
(stares at Dell Axim x51v, then stares at Palm m125)
Shall I send you my Palm m125 to review?
oh baby. i found an x51v at work. played bubble breaker on it. shit was cash
I owned an x51v in high school; I saved up for quite a while to afford it. For the time, it really was an amazing device.
Oh,my,Axim - now, that's ring a bell !!!!
I had an x51v with GPS. I loved the Aluminum Case I had for it.
Axim X3i. Posted about it already, so I won't repeat everything. Loved this thing for several years, back in its day.
Dude I started out with a Handspring, then graduated to a Sony Clie. Sony's PDA used their long skinny memory sticks I loved my PDAS they were the best!
I've been like 11-12 years old when with the help of my mom i bought a HP iPaq 214 handheld pc on a lease ( I had to pay from my own pocketmoney every month). I remember being the coolest guy in the school because of this thing. Was such an impressive tech by then. Still have it somewhere in my hometown in a drawer, however not sure if its still alive, but it would be nice to try it on. So much nostalgia.
Remember reading books on my father old PDA in early 2000's.
My first ebook was on a Sony Clie PEG-SJ22 PDA...in 2001!
I think I used a Handspring Visor as my first eReader. I know I read "War of the Worlds" on it
Remember reading books?
I just found my Dell Axim x30 last weekend as well. I remember everyone at work having these ipaqs as well
Dont give apple ideas for a name for a bag IBAQ.
I('ll be)BAQ
Coming soon: IRAQ
I went through several Windows Mobile phone-type devices made by HTC, back when no one had heard of them (including me) because they only made devices for other companies/mobile networks etc to brand as their own. Basically the same as this, but with built-in phone functionality. So I have some thoughts to add in case anyone wants to know more about these things:
1:14 It's called a resistive touchscreen, and I used my fingernail most of the time rather than than messing about getting the stylus out whenever I wanted to use my phone. Mine didn't have the built-in fancy flipdown cover though. I once put it in the same pocket as my keys, and it came out with a scratch/gouge in the screen so deep that it was basically no longer functional (as it always thought that part of the screen was being pressed... and they don't support multi-touch). I think I managed to briefly restore some functionality by using some sticky tape on that bit of the screen to try to lift it a bit, but it got replaced on the insurance not long after that. And I think that was when I started using screen protectors.
The earlier ones I had also used what they called a "trans-reflective" screen (transmissive + reflective), which I think basically meant there was a reflective layer somewhere between the backlight and the screen itself, and the backlight could be turned completely off while the (LCD) screen was still on. I think the idea was that it would be easier to see in direct sunlight, as well as saving a lot of power, but all I know is that it was almost impossible to use that way in normal lighting (I guess I didn't go out in the sun enough). They ditched that part on the later models though, I think at least partly because it caused a reduction in visible brightness from the backlight/screen quality.
3:55 On another one of my phones, at one point the dock connector decided to break. Like all the pins and the (normally) internal part of the connector totally snapped off the board inside the phone, and came away with the charger. I managed to keep that one going for a bit by very carefully laying near the edge of a table and aligning the pins for it to charge, but then it also had to be replaced by insurance.
5:06 Yeah, Windows Mobile was based on Windows (well technically Windows CE) so it was pretty powerful (or at least not deliberately restricted) in terms of allowing you to do low-level-ish, power-user type things like desktop Windows does (e.g. File Explorer as pointed out at 8:59), but not quite so good on being smooth and user-friendly etc. Just in case anyone's curious, the last version of it was (I think) 6.5. They'd already started rebranding it as "Windows Phone" by that point, but Windows Phone 7 (i.e. the first version of what modern Windows Phones run) was a totally different thing that they designed/built from scratch. It couldn't run any of the same programs etc (I don't think they were called apps in those days). And the first version of it didn't even support copy and paste and other such basic things (it seemed like they were copying the history of iOS a bit too closely), so I switched to Android at that point.
5:15 Assuming your device is anything like mine, that bottom middle button is a sort of OK/enter button, with a D-pad surrounding it. And those buttons aren't assignable, but yeah usually the rest are. It was theoretically possible to use them to navigate everything (apart from keyboard input I guess), i.e. by moving focus between onscreen elements using the D-pad and then pressing them with the middle button, but I think that did depend somewhat on the implementation of each particular app. My devices also had a physical start button which opened the start menu (i.e. the one at the top left) and phone answer/end buttons - and I vaguely seem to remember that the end call button also functioned like a home button if you pressed it when you weren't in a call, sending you back to the "Today" home-screen type thing.
6:43 The calendar (and contacts) were based on (or at least designed to fully sync with) Microsoft Exchange and meant for full-on business users, so yeah, they were pretty full-featured.
11:13 Yeah the earlier devices I had didn't have any flash memory - they used a portion of RAM as storage. So that meant they literally couldn't be turned off - the closest you could get was putting it on flight mode and then just turning off the screen - so those signs/people saying "Turn off all mobile phones" annoyed me. Like, "I LITERALLY CAN'T, OR I'LL LOSE EVERYTHING!"
That also happened to me several times though, due to the battery running out when I was nowhere near a (compatible) charger, or just the whole thing crashing particularly spectacularly. It would basically boot up the same as from a factory reset - no contacts, nothing - so not particularly handy when it's your only phone and you're away from home. To be honest being told to turn it off was still pretty annoying on the later ones with flash memory though, cos they could be turned off but then they took at least 5 minutes to boot back up and be usable again.
I'm pretty sure mine would lose all data (when the backup battery ran out) a very short time after the battery was removed/completely empty though... like a few hours at most. So I'm confused as to how yours still has all its data after all this time if it wasn't one that used separate flash memory for storage?!
Resistive touchscreens are just old 3d touch.
Why we goin back in time?
Resistive touchscreens aren't pressure sensitive.
@@jincyquones They are, actually. But they can't recognize multiple touch-points, which made them obsolete for most modern applications.
many don't but I have used several that did recognize multiple points. My windows 98 laptop touchpad could to gestures like pinch to zoom, the pioneer radio I put in my car has a resistive touch screen and I can zoom in the map view using pinch instead of buttons too
@@TheJunky228 Your laptop touchpad was capacitive. Capacitive touch isn't a new technology, it was just not frequently used for touchscreens, as it was more expensive to implement transparently. Resistive touchscreens can, by design, only recognize one input at a time, however, it seems like some manufacturers segmented them, so one screen could recognize one input per zone. Maybe that's what's going on with the pioneer radio.
Mr. V it was a joke but ok fredo
5:35 instead of bottom RIGHT? Where are you from? Is that Canadian thing to have Start Menu on bottom RIGHT side?
another thing this thing has that modern devices don't, Headphone jack
*cough* Note 10 *cough*
Ipaq >>> note 10
disgusting Notes 1O
The amazing thing is what "came out of" that effort. Windows Personal Assistant and Phone ran on Windows CE - their realtime embedded OS. Writing and app for it used the standard Visual Studio path with a simple "target" addition. The same app on the desktop made the phone version with the only thing to deal with was the screen capability differences. Way ahead of its time. You use PlatformIO to do that now but this was 1998. This also was the first tablet/touchscreen effort and made way for the Surface. Several companies made the PDA also a phone - below the iPhone, but after the Palm Pilot (Q-Phone) and the Blackberry. What was really special was its Office integration. Outlook on this PDA was connected to your desktop Outlook. Word, Excel, Powerpoint files all "sync'd" the the host when you docked (this was pre-WIFI). Really, had Microsoft embraced the Internet and not fought the momentum, they could have had another dominant play on their hands. They bought the leading cellphone company - Nokia to do so but something just did not jell.