What I love about your channel is that you'll talk about the most obscure black metal bands, but also gush over a Staind album. You like what you like, metal elitists be damned, and I applaud it sir 👏
Follow the leader is garbage, as a kid, I loved it but listening to it again. It’s so corny, all in the family?? Wtf,? Only good song is probably it’s on and got the life, but it was a total shift in direction for korn, they lost that rawness in favour for over production, I feel deftones had the best 3rd album, it projected them into the career they have now and was the beginning of them separating from the nu metal pack
I would love to see you continue this series, sort of like a course through Nu-Metal history from Success to fall, to underground, back to some Success again!
S: Follow the leader, White pony, Break the cycle, Chocolate starfish A: The feeding, Subliminal verses, Dark days, M3, Shadow zone, *Divided we fall B: Lost and found, The mourning after, Blackout, Steal this album, Statement, Self destructive pattern C: Ten thousand fists, Someone in control, Minutes to midnight, The dead and dreaming, Blue sky research D: Animosity, Getting away with murder, Chimaira, Punk statik paranoia, Group therapy, Back into your system F: Tonight the stars revolt, Three, Until the end, Educated horses, *Full circle
Sevendust Animosity was hands down a classic without doubt...A Perfect Circles Mer de Noms, Colds Year of the Spider, and Seethers Disclaimer deserve spots. Note that I don't imply APC was nu-metal by any means...they were just highly worth mentioning in that period.
@aylictal Yeah I got a little carried away with including them on the list. I was thinking more of my noted rock albums of that period in general, because yeah they absolutely positively are not nu-metal.
Mer de Noms and 13th Step both were gorgeous examples of a proggy art-rock style, one that I believed felt highly fresh in a time period around 1999-05. Porcupine Tree would be my other favorite of the style, but yeah they're not nu-metal, but all the while worth mentioning.
The reason why that third Orgy sucked so bad was because both original guitar players (Ryan Shuck and Amir Derakh) had left. Those guys formed a better band called "Julien-K" and actually had a side project with Chester Bennington called "Dead By Sunrise".
Break The Cycle probably the only thing crabby uncle Aaron's attitude still hasn't fucked with as it has surprisingly aged better than it has any right to
Great video man love that you put Limp Bizkit ahead of Slipknot while I personally put vol 3 as S tier I’m sick of seeing reviewers just say limp bizkit (snort In derision and scoff) F no explanation needed. I just feel people think it’s what your SUPPOSED to think
I agree. From a songwriting standpoint there's a reason why they blew up. There are plenty of cringe bands that never made it big because they didn't have the talent.
@@MetalTrenches totally agree man! That’s what I always tell people when the topic comes up they had to do something right cause people still listen to them today.
@@MetalTrenches Fred Durst has all of the makings of a memorable frontman, but he is an objectively terrible vocalist. He is the band's greatest asset commercially and their worst asset artistically. The rest of the band is top notch, though.
Maaann I was really hoping to finally see some Nothingface being spotlighted. Their 3rd album 'Violence' was such a nu-metal staple in high-school, and not ashamed to say still is. Lol. Top 5 favorite bands. Unfortunately never see many channels talking about them.
Dude that was literally every album I carried in my cd case in my car during high school. Like band for band. I wish you had Cold-Year of the spider though.
The Bands that have a strong 1st Album: Spineshank, 40 Below Summer, Drowning Pool, Audioslave, 10 Years, Slipknot, ill Nino, Mudvayne The Bands that have a strong 2nd Album: Dope, Coal Chamber, Powerman 5000, Staind, Papa Roach, Cold, Rob Zombie, Orgy, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Red, Stone Sour, Avenged Sevenfold, Tool The Bands that have a strong 3rd Album: Crossfade, Nonpoint, Seether, Taproot, Disturbed, Dry Kill Logic, Godsmack, NIN, Rammstein, Deftones, Sevendust The Bands that have a strong 4rth Album: Three Days Grace, P.O.D., Static X, Marilyn Manson, Alter Bridge, Korn, Breaking Benjamin, Chevelle, Mushroom Head, System of a Down
@@J.PC.Designs Hybrid Theory is amazing, but I gravitate to Meteora more. Meteora's filler tracks have slowly grown on me, and after I finish listening to Meteora I get this feeling of happiness/satisfaction/enlightenment that I don't get from when listening to Hybrid. I like the run time of Meteora its short/impactful/ and to the point. Lateralus definitely has better compositions. Songs like The Grudge/Schism/ Parabol & Parabola/ Lateralus is what got me interested in tool in the first place. Lateralus has extremely high points, but I love Aenima. I see Aenima as tool just jamming out as a band not trying to fit in with what was going on at the time. You could hear through the music that they had fun making this record. Steal This Album I truly love, every album is spectacular. Steal This Album for me feels unfinished. And when I think of System, Mezmerize's sound/production/ and even their look is what I immediately think of. Breaking Benjamin has been pretty consistent throughout their career. We are Not Alone & Phobia are great records, but there are two songs that I skip from both those records. Dear Agony is a record I could listen to without skipping any tracks.
I was honestly expecting you'd put staind on d tier, but i smiled when i saw where you placed it. I am glad there are people who also love that album, its extremely overlooked, i was going through a pretty nasty breakup some time ago and this was my getgo album with shun's michael in reign ep, it just resonated with my soul. And like you said, there is a reason why it was as popular as it was back in the early 2000s, its just so unique and depressing even for a mainstream record but its still quite mainstream. Good video tho! Altho i disagree with the vol 3 placing.
@@MetalTrenches yup i have to agree with you, starting with their 2003 album (forgot how it was called) it just wasnt the same, felt like forced depression rather than genuine like btc/dysfunction era. They still made some pretty good songs tho, but btc is their best
prepare for long boi comment with a lot of opinions and some hot takes I think Follow The Leader is a bit overrated. It has legendary songs like Got The Life and Freak on a Leash, but the bad songs are terrible and I end up hitting the skip button a lot. But the good songs are S Tier individually. To paraphrase Jeff Winger from Community, Limp Bizkit to me is like Paul Rudd. I see the appeal and I wouldn’t want to take that away from anyone, but I’m also not first in line for it. That being said, Wes Borland is a very talented guitarist and most of the hits are really great, like Break Stuff, Nookie, Re-Areanged, Rollin, Full Nelson, Counterfeit, etc. but I just don’t care much for the deep cuts and I can’t stand about half of their catalog. Vol. 3 is my second favorite Slipknot album behind Iowa, but my rating changes frequently. I love how diverse it is, with songs I can take to the gym, release my anger to, and everything in between. But it just doesn’t have the same intensity that made Iowa a masterpiece, which is why I rank it slightly lower. Minutes To Midnight is a sad one. Some of my favorite Linkin Park songs are on it, but the great songs only make the experience worse because they’re just reminders of what could’ve been, how this new sound could’ve worked. Most of it is just pop rock garbage with the occasional real LP song, but that doesn’t save the experience at all. Given Up genuinely might be LP’s worst song, or at least a close second to Sharp Edges. I used to be a huge Powerman 5000 fan, but then I just grew out of it. Still fun to revisit though from time to time, and not the worst nü metal out there. White Pony is the Deftones album that brought them into my top 5 favorite bands of all time, metal or otherwise. I waited a while to listen to it when I was binging their discography, and then at a time when I was going through some personal struggles with mental health and relationships, I gave it a listen in a dark room with noise canceling headphones, and… oh wow. The atmosphere, the creepy aesthetic, the riffs, the vocals, everything just clicked at that time. An absolute masterpiece. If I had to choose a second favorite Deftones album, it’s probably close between Saturday Night Wrist and Koi No Yokan. And maybe Around The Fur as well. And Diamond Eyes… idk man, they’re all just so good and my ranking changes every time I listen to one. White Pony is the only one that’s stayed at the top.
Taproot is so underrated if you go to Plead The 5th is going back to there roots I feel you would enjoy that love videos like this can you do one for metalcore that be interesting to see.
Personally I love The Mourning After. It's got some of my favorite songs on it. I also honestly love a lot of Trapt's music, but it's hard to listen to because of the singer's horrid personality. As for Minutes To Midnight, Getting Away With Murder, and Ten Thousand Fists, I don't really think they're nu metal albums. I love all three of them, but I can definitely understand why some people may not like them as much because of the shift in direction. TTF is just metal to me, GAWM is a catchy hard rock album, and MTM is a pop rock album. Vol 3 is different, but it's still solid to my ears. I don't love it as much as their self titled, but it's better than everything that Slipknot made afterwards. Glad you showed Break The Cycle the love it deserves. I have a hard time listening to it because of Aaron Lewis, but with separation of art and artist, that album is fantastic.
Yeah the further we get in the more dubious the nu metal label becomes, but it still makes for interesting relistens regardless. And yes, BTS is still gold even if Aaron is a moron.
@The goat from Iowa I like a few songs here and there, but albums as a whole I think aren't as great as their earlier stuff. Just my opinion obviously, and I still got a lot of respect for the band. Saw them live in 2015 and it's still one of my favorite shows I've been to. Had a blast
I personally wouldn't classify Chimairas self titled as nu metal, infact I think the band purposefully veered out of the nu metal style of there debut album, I really wish they didn't call it quits when they did
@@MetalTrenches Yeah personally my favourite was impossibility of reason, interestingly enough though Rob there guitarist cites the self titled as there best work. On his youtube they occasionally still jam together and appear on his channel via interviews etc, so there is hope that one day there might get back together, personally I think the band were kind of ruined by roadrunners lack of promotion and then obviously dropping to smaller labels after resurrection I feel they heads weren't completely in it or in a good space, fingers crossed they can get back to making music one day
Dark Days is fun and catchy!! (So is the fourth album, Rivals!) And... A Thousand Suns might be my favorite Linkin Park album? 😬🤷♂ It's probably their most thematically complete & righteous (and "Robot Boy" is such a chill jam...) I hope you do a fourth-album tier list, 'cause I really do think there's at least *some* gold in them there hills... EDIT: Haha, I'm obviously new here... Solid Rivals placement, and I'd bump up ATS at least one! 👍
Only 2 albums on here I still own/listen to occasionally are Chimaira and Soulfly. In both cases, I think this was the album in which they turned the corner for me. Was never the biggest Deftones or Korn fan...
I would put Disturbed at S mostly for the nostalgia but i also love David's vocals on the slow melodic bits. I can see why you wouldn't like it, though.
A deluxe edition just came out with two previously unreleased songs (the first one is really mid but the second one is awesome), what I believe is an early version of Given Up (don’t quote me on that) and a remix of What I’ve Done.
There are definitely a ton more bands/albums that could be on this list, but it's a good one, nonetheless. I'm a bit surprised no Seether, Adema, Drowning Pool, Ill Nino, and Cold, though! I don't know if you'd consider Godsmack or POD (I don't think of them as nu-metal, but some people do). Still, fun list. : )
Excellent list, I grew up listening to Break the Cycle. I wouldn’t call myself a Staind fan either. As you said, that album has an extremely depressing atmosphere that I like about it especially hearing it now as an adult. Can’t say I like what comes after or even before it at that matter.
I didn’t want to just ride the wave on his death, but I do already have a TBDM tier list and several melodeath lists out and coming that he is mentioned in
mildly controversial, but fear factory was a big part of the nu metal era, any particular reason they have been left off? too industrial is the obvious point and i kinda agree but...if ya adding rob zombie and orgy...
The only nu metal album they had was Digimortal, which I could have easily put on here but it slipped my mind. None of their other albums are nu metal. It's more thrash-inspired industrial metal. Rob Zombie and Orgy ride the line much closer for a number of reasons but I agree the same argument can be made.
@@MetalTrenches fair enough...may as well add diabolus in musica by slayer too, was hoping to see some obscure bands like OUT, one minute silence and superheist on these lists but ya cant have it all...still in awe of these nu metal vids in general...great job.
Chimaria' self titled album is amazing. They turned a little more progressive and groove metal in the album. I dont consider them numetal to be honest.
I love that you put Hed P.E. in there. Very underrated band of the nu-metal era. And Spineshank's Self-Destructive Pattern... Solid album front to back!
Only stuff that I really listened to a lot was deftones korn and sevendust albums and a lot. I liked Blackout when it first came out for a bit and then they literary died after that. Chimaira is not nu metal after pass out haha! Groove.The rest I can’t really comment on since I didn’t care for any of those bands anymore. I hated chocolate starfish so much and slipknot’s vol 3.
I read that Shadow Zone was the result of label pressure to become more radio friendly. I like the songs but the production on the album just doesn't sound like static x
I posted a comment on you;re last nu metal ranking video concerning mushroomheads ranking but lets be fair those first three album were not as good as XIII
Great list, I feel like we have similar music tastes. American Headcharge, Seven Dust, Nonpoint, Saliva and Hed PE to s. Spine Shank and Soulfly to B. Slipknot, Stained and Dope to C.
@@JohnWayne-vf5bs They are pretty good. I liked Chapters of Misery back in the day but haven't really gotten into anything new from them. The Hardcore bands I love are Thy Art is Murder , Malevolence, Abhorrent Decimation, The Last Ten Seconds Of Life and old Fit for an Autopsy up until the great collapse album.
I like mtm,but I don't know why it is in the nu metal 3rd albums,even though it's not really a nu metal album yeah it has some rapping here and there , but I think some of the softer tracks and slow tracks are some of the best that's just my opinion tho,and by the way in my personal opinion meteora is LPs best album.
Yeah, and Disturbed stops being nu metal after The Sickness (and that one BARELY counts). Linkin Park was never nu metal, despite it's strong influence on their first two albums. They had a far more mainstream, pop-influenced sound even from the beginning.
the first show i ever went to was ozzfest 2004 and i was a slipknot obsessed 14 year so subliminal verses is intensely nostalgic for me, but oddly enough i agree its b-tier, the melodic stuff doesn't have the same impact as the first 2 albums
I would say that it's probably not worth doing a fourth albums tier list for nu metal. I enjoy the content but I think most nu metal bands at this point either are putting out crap records or have moved on to not playing nu metal anymore. Hell some of the records on this list aren't even nu metal: Linkin Park, Deftones, Disturbed (all records I love). I'll watch if you make it, I just think their wouldn't be much to talk about.
Wow lol. So this might be the video we differ the most on so far. I was huge into NuMetal, but I'm a few years older so that might be why, but... Coal Chamber is a d teir band regardless of the album if that. Both the Slipknot and and Sevendust albums are FAR superior. The Limp Bizkit album was a big dropoff from the first two also. C teir for that one. Death knell for me. Also I think we know record sales don't mean shit as far as quality goes. Papa Roach is just straight trash even from the first album. Staind is pretty damn bad too. Almost entirely butt rock after Dysfunction. American Head Charge is another band that's embarrassing altogether. But hey White Pony is one of the greatest albums ever made so we got that! Lol. 4th albums is probably a stretch. Only a few bands even had decent releases and I think they'd be obvious, but what do I know. I jumped ship before you on most of these. I wouldn't include Rob Zombie at all, but he fell off after the second album anyway.
KoRn has a lot of badass albums. But their debut and Issues are by far my favorite, too. I'd give Follow the Leader an A. It's got some skippable tracks for sure, but the good is gold. I like Saliva's back into your system. Pretty fun album. I forgot it was their third. I'd give it a B. Limp Bizkit's CSatHFL is a lot like Follow the Leader, in my opinion. Some of it's great, some of it sucks. I'd give it a B. Their sophomore album would get a solid S from me, though. So freaking good. Disturb's 10k Fists would get a C, maybe a D from me. I LOVE their debut album, but this was a little lackluster to me. I agree, too radio friendly. Papa Roach's Getting Away with Murder is alright, but nothing comes close to Infest. Infest would get an S, Getting Away with Murder would get a C from me. I like their heavy, aggressive stuff. Linkin Park's Minutes to Midnight would garner a C from me. Hybrid Theory was one of the first albums I ever had (alongside Incubus' Make Yourself) and was a staple of my childhood. With nostalgia, it gets an S. Meteora gets an A. But this one, I like it, but not THAT much. Mudvayne, I totally agree with you. Probably a D. Mushroomhead's all over the place for me. Haha I can enjoy a little of Orgy's Punk Static Paranoia, but I definitely wouldn't say it's good. Probably a D. The first couple of times I listened to Taproot's Blue Sky Research, I found it kinda lackluster and would've given it a C. But, the more I listened to it, the more I grew to appreciate it. I actually love the album and honestly, I'd probably give it a solid A. I LOOOOVE American Head Charge's The Feeding. I discovered it around six years ago and was blown away. I'd give it an S for sure. I haven't listened to Trapt's Someone in Control in many years, but I do remember liking it. I'd probably give it a C, maybe a B, but I don't remember. White Pony is another album I grew up with and it has a special place in my soul. I'd give it an S without question and I agree, it's probably the best on this entire list. I know a ton of these bands and albums, but not all of them. Thanks for adding to my list of material to check out! :)
I remember I bought VOL 3 and then returned it because I thought I bought a censored copy from best buy lol but no. I don't like how his vocals sound and some of those songs are really awful to me. That's the only one I'd rand super different. Maybe D because I do like maybe 3 songs on there
I can see where people may have felt that way at the time, but they nailed it so well with the first two, that I'm not sure how much further they could have taken it. It integrates pretty seamlessly into their original sound on the best tracks on their subsequent releases, so I actually think the album aged quite well, in retrospect.
One band you didn't list, which really fits into the nu metal genre, especially their 3rd album...they fit in, toured with lots of these listed and were just badass. Fear Factory - Obsolete
S: Mudvayne, Disturbed, Limp Bizkit B: Korn, System of a Down, Sevendust, Soulfly C: Deftones, Hed Pe, Linkin Park D: Kittie, Slipknot, Chimaira, Powerman 5000, Rob Zombie, Staind D-: 40 Below Summer, Static X, Nonpoint, Coal Chamber, Mushroomhead F: Dope, Taproot, Papa Roach, Saliva, Trapt, Orgy 4th albums it’s up to you I don’t want to put you through more pain lol. This list was REALLY ROUGH lmao.
By fourth albums, nü metal kinda fell off. Linkin Park, Slipknot, Deftones, Sevendust, Disturbed and Soulfly all changed their sound, System of a Down and Limp Bizkit fell off hard, the guy from TRAPT became the guy from TRAPT, and everyone else faded out of relevancy. It’s only now that nü metal is starting to make a comeback with new bands taking the spotlight, which I’m stoked about.
I would be interested to see a 4th and 5th album tier list. At that point we are in a strange spot in those band’s career, nu-metal was far gone. I’m sure most of the records sucked lol, would make for an entertaining video imo!
I'd say coal chamber is the definition of so bad it's good, definitely lyrically. I honestly love all three of their albums from their original run even though Dez is guilty of crimes against the English language.
I don’t normally go into these wanting to start an argument, but putting Staind in S but 40 Below in F? There’s no way that is right. No offense. I feel we see eye to eye on a lot of things, almost like we grew up together. But I loved that 40 Below record and for someone who gushes over Invitation…I was really shocked. Side note: where is Ill Nino on these lists?
A lot of what is coming out now has strong nu metal influence, such as Tallah and Slaughter to Prevail, so I think it has found its place again, to an extent.
I doubt anyone would put Vol.3 in S tier unless that was like their first Slipknot album. Voice is bad compared to first two albums, production is weird...sounds so muffled...and this was a rick rubin production so not sure what happened there. IOWA was so brutal and polished to fuck brutality and Vol3 sounds like random b sides.
Yo you can’t have White Pony on here lol First off it’s hardly a nu metal album, secondly, as you pointed out, everyone else’s 3rd album can’t even compete lol
I’m always amazed at how shocked people are to discover that others have a different opinion than their own. Also that Mudvayne album sucks HARD imo. Gimme LD50 or nothing
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Nu metal doesn't get an s tier
What I love about your channel is that you'll talk about the most obscure black metal bands, but also gush over a Staind album. You like what you like, metal elitists be damned, and I applaud it sir 👏
We love what we love. Boxes are boring. 🤘🏻
I'm glad he's honest about his likes, but come on, you like trash like Hollywood undead but bash limp? Jeez.
@@lifeunderthestarstvlimp Bizkit is the worst band of all time
@@MetalTrenches Wise words
Follow the leader is garbage, as a kid, I loved it but listening to it again. It’s so corny, all in the family?? Wtf,? Only good song is probably it’s on and got the life, but it was a total shift in direction for korn, they lost that rawness in favour for over production,
I feel deftones had the best 3rd album, it projected them into the career they have now and was the beginning of them separating from the nu metal pack
I would love to see you continue this series, sort of like a course through Nu-Metal history from Success to fall, to underground, back to some Success again!
Well lucky for you I've already recorded 4th albums.
@@MetalTrenches Awesome!
S: Follow the leader, White pony, Break the cycle, Chocolate starfish
A: The feeding, Subliminal verses, Dark days, M3, Shadow zone, *Divided we fall
B: Lost and found, The mourning after, Blackout, Steal this album, Statement, Self destructive pattern
C: Ten thousand fists, Someone in control, Minutes to midnight, The dead and dreaming, Blue sky research
D: Animosity, Getting away with murder, Chimaira, Punk statik paranoia, Group therapy, Back into your system
F: Tonight the stars revolt, Three, Until the end, Educated horses, *Full circle
"The Mourning After" is their best album for me
Sevendust Animosity was hands down a classic without doubt...A Perfect Circles Mer de Noms, Colds Year of the Spider, and Seethers Disclaimer deserve spots. Note that I don't imply APC was nu-metal by any means...they were just highly worth mentioning in that period.
Yep big Sevendust fan here Animosity is without a doubt their Magnum Opus
APC should not ever be in a nu metal category period. They're alternative or prog rock at best.
@aylictal Yeah I got a little carried away with including them on the list. I was thinking more of my noted rock albums of that period in general, because yeah they absolutely positively are not nu-metal.
Mer de Noms and 13th Step both were gorgeous examples of a proggy art-rock style, one that I believed felt highly fresh in a time period around 1999-05. Porcupine Tree would be my other favorite of the style, but yeah they're not nu-metal, but all the while worth mentioning.
@@adamfowler350 if you're into those bands have a listen to karnivool or mars volta. they're similar.
The reason why that third Orgy sucked so bad was because both original guitar players (Ryan Shuck and Amir Derakh) had left. Those guys formed a better band called "Julien-K" and actually had a side project with Chester Bennington called "Dead By Sunrise".
Did not know this. Just another reason I love doing the channel: you learn new things.
Thing is it didn't though
Break The Cycle probably the only thing crabby uncle Aaron's attitude still hasn't fucked with as it has surprisingly aged better than it has any right to
In nu metal, I, somewhat, see the third albums of any nu metal band being either underrated or a make - or - break type of album.
Totally
great list dude =)
Break The Cycle and Dysfunction are two of the most depressing albums I've ever heard in my life and I've heard my fair share of depressing music
Great video man love that you put Limp Bizkit ahead of Slipknot while I personally put vol 3 as S tier I’m sick of seeing reviewers just say limp bizkit (snort In derision and scoff) F no explanation needed. I just feel people think it’s what your SUPPOSED to think
I agree. From a songwriting standpoint there's a reason why they blew up. There are plenty of cringe bands that never made it big because they didn't have the talent.
@@MetalTrenches totally agree man! That’s what I always tell people when the topic comes up they had to do something right cause people still listen to them today.
@@MetalTrenches Fred Durst has all of the makings of a memorable frontman, but he is an objectively terrible vocalist. He is the band's greatest asset commercially and their worst asset artistically. The rest of the band is top notch, though.
Maaann I was really hoping to finally see some Nothingface being spotlighted. Their 3rd album 'Violence' was such a nu-metal staple in high-school, and not ashamed to say still is. Lol. Top 5 favorite bands. Unfortunately never see many channels talking about them.
Nothingface should have been conquering the world during the Nu Metal era.
@@Cwin-ny6bp I agree 100%
Dude that was literally every album I carried in my cd case in my car during high school. Like band for band. I wish you had Cold-Year of the spider though.
The Bands that have a strong 1st Album: Spineshank, 40 Below Summer, Drowning Pool, Audioslave, 10 Years, Slipknot, ill Nino, Mudvayne
The Bands that have a strong 2nd Album: Dope, Coal Chamber, Powerman 5000, Staind, Papa Roach, Cold, Rob Zombie, Orgy, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Red, Stone Sour, Avenged Sevenfold, Tool
The Bands that have a strong 3rd Album: Crossfade, Nonpoint, Seether, Taproot, Disturbed, Dry Kill Logic, Godsmack, NIN, Rammstein, Deftones, Sevendust
The Bands that have a strong 4rth Album: Three Days Grace, P.O.D., Static X, Marilyn Manson, Alter Bridge, Korn, Breaking Benjamin, Chevelle, Mushroom Head, System of a Down
Do you mean the very FIRST 10 years album or their first major label? The very beginning had a different lead vocalist
@@samg1803 Into the Half Moon is a fun record for me.
@@J.PC.Designs Agreed Phobia is amazing
@@J.PC.Designs Hybrid Theory is amazing, but I gravitate to Meteora more. Meteora's filler tracks have slowly grown on me, and after I finish listening to Meteora I get this feeling of happiness/satisfaction/enlightenment that I don't get from when listening to Hybrid. I like the run time of Meteora its short/impactful/ and to the point.
Lateralus definitely has better compositions. Songs like The Grudge/Schism/ Parabol & Parabola/ Lateralus is what got me interested in tool in the first place. Lateralus has extremely high points, but I love Aenima. I see Aenima as tool just jamming out as a band not trying to fit in with what was going on at the time. You could hear through the music that they had fun making this record.
Steal This Album I truly love, every album is spectacular. Steal This Album for me feels unfinished. And when I think of System, Mezmerize's sound/production/ and even their look is what I immediately think of.
Breaking Benjamin has been pretty consistent throughout their career. We are Not Alone & Phobia are great records, but there are two songs that I skip from both those records. Dear Agony is a record I could listen to without skipping any tracks.
@@amjreptx1 you're like the one person that I've seen on here in the past seven years that shared their thoughts on that record so mad respect
Man, this tier list just proves that when you're ripe, you'll bleed out of control.
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Great Video. Thank you. This helps me a lot👍
Enjoy exploring!
And now I've got Getting Away with Murder stuck in my head. Great. Thanks, dude. LOL.
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BIG TRUCK!
I was honestly expecting you'd put staind on d tier, but i smiled when i saw where you placed it. I am glad there are people who also love that album, its extremely overlooked, i was going through a pretty nasty breakup some time ago and this was my getgo album with shun's michael in reign ep, it just resonated with my soul. And like you said, there is a reason why it was as popular as it was back in the early 2000s, its just so unique and depressing even for a mainstream record but its still quite mainstream. Good video tho! Altho i disagree with the vol 3 placing.
Still holds up. Haters be damned. I hate every album after this but BTC has a special place in my heart.
@@MetalTrenches yup i have to agree with you, starting with their 2003 album (forgot how it was called) it just wasnt the same, felt like forced depression rather than genuine like btc/dysfunction era. They still made some pretty good songs tho, but btc is their best
prepare for long boi comment with a lot of opinions and some hot takes
I think Follow The Leader is a bit overrated. It has legendary songs like Got The Life and Freak on a Leash, but the bad songs are terrible and I end up hitting the skip button a lot. But the good songs are S Tier individually.
To paraphrase Jeff Winger from Community, Limp Bizkit to me is like Paul Rudd. I see the appeal and I wouldn’t want to take that away from anyone, but I’m also not first in line for it. That being said, Wes Borland is a very talented guitarist and most of the hits are really great, like Break Stuff, Nookie, Re-Areanged, Rollin, Full Nelson, Counterfeit, etc. but I just don’t care much for the deep cuts and I can’t stand about half of their catalog.
Vol. 3 is my second favorite Slipknot album behind Iowa, but my rating changes frequently. I love how diverse it is, with songs I can take to the gym, release my anger to, and everything in between. But it just doesn’t have the same intensity that made Iowa a masterpiece, which is why I rank it slightly lower.
Minutes To Midnight is a sad one. Some of my favorite Linkin Park songs are on it, but the great songs only make the experience worse because they’re just reminders of what could’ve been, how this new sound could’ve worked. Most of it is just pop rock garbage with the occasional real LP song, but that doesn’t save the experience at all. Given Up genuinely might be LP’s worst song, or at least a close second to Sharp Edges.
I used to be a huge Powerman 5000 fan, but then I just grew out of it. Still fun to revisit though from time to time, and not the worst nü metal out there.
White Pony is the Deftones album that brought them into my top 5 favorite bands of all time, metal or otherwise. I waited a while to listen to it when I was binging their discography, and then at a time when I was going through some personal struggles with mental health and relationships, I gave it a listen in a dark room with noise canceling headphones, and… oh wow. The atmosphere, the creepy aesthetic, the riffs, the vocals, everything just clicked at that time. An absolute masterpiece. If I had to choose a second favorite Deftones album, it’s probably close between Saturday Night Wrist and Koi No Yokan. And maybe Around The Fur as well. And Diamond Eyes… idk man, they’re all just so good and my ranking changes every time I listen to one. White Pony is the only one that’s stayed at the top.
White Pony is definitely leagues above everything else here.
Taproot is so underrated if you go to Plead The 5th is going back to there roots I feel you would enjoy that love videos like this can you do one for metalcore that be interesting to see.
I did a metalcore debut albums and I feel like no one saw it
Personally I love The Mourning After. It's got some of my favorite songs on it. I also honestly love a lot of Trapt's music, but it's hard to listen to because of the singer's horrid personality.
As for Minutes To Midnight, Getting Away With Murder, and Ten Thousand Fists, I don't really think they're nu metal albums. I love all three of them, but I can definitely understand why some people may not like them as much because of the shift in direction. TTF is just metal to me, GAWM is a catchy hard rock album, and MTM is a pop rock album.
Vol 3 is different, but it's still solid to my ears. I don't love it as much as their self titled, but it's better than everything that Slipknot made afterwards.
Glad you showed Break The Cycle the love it deserves. I have a hard time listening to it because of Aaron Lewis, but with separation of art and artist, that album is fantastic.
Yeah the further we get in the more dubious the nu metal label becomes, but it still makes for interesting relistens regardless. And yes, BTS is still gold even if Aaron is a moron.
@The goat from Iowa I like a few songs here and there, but albums as a whole I think aren't as great as their earlier stuff. Just my opinion obviously, and I still got a lot of respect for the band. Saw them live in 2015 and it's still one of my favorite shows I've been to. Had a blast
good list 👍
I personally wouldn't classify Chimairas self titled as nu metal, infact I think the band purposefully veered out of the nu metal style of there debut album, I really wish they didn't call it quits when they did
The next album KILLS
@@MetalTrenches Yeah personally my favourite was impossibility of reason, interestingly enough though Rob there guitarist cites the self titled as there best work. On his youtube they occasionally still jam together and appear on his channel via interviews etc, so there is hope that one day there might get back together, personally I think the band were kind of ruined by roadrunners lack of promotion and then obviously dropping to smaller labels after resurrection I feel they heads weren't completely in it or in a good space, fingers crossed they can get back to making music one day
I wouldn't really considered Chimaira's self-titled nu metal that record was NWOAHM or Metalcore at best with groove and thrash mixed.
Pretty much 99% agree with this list. I love kittie so I would have put that around c tier myself but that's splitting hairs haha. Good stuff!!
Dark Days is fun and catchy!! (So is the fourth album, Rivals!)
And... A Thousand Suns might be my favorite Linkin Park album? 😬🤷♂ It's probably their most thematically complete & righteous (and "Robot Boy" is such a chill jam...)
I hope you do a fourth-album tier list, 'cause I really do think there's at least *some* gold in them there hills...
EDIT: Haha, I'm obviously new here... Solid Rivals placement, and I'd bump up ATS at least one! 👍
Only 2 albums on here I still own/listen to occasionally are Chimaira and Soulfly. In both cases, I think this was the album in which they turned the corner for me. Was never the biggest Deftones or Korn fan...
I would put Disturbed at S mostly for the nostalgia but i also love David's vocals on the slow melodic bits. I can see why you wouldn't like it, though.
So their is a MTM remix that just came out this week and I'm curious if some of these mixes do it for you or not!
A deluxe edition just came out with two previously unreleased songs (the first one is really mid but the second one is awesome), what I believe is an early version of Given Up (don’t quote me on that) and a remix of What I’ve Done.
@@thedogfromraditude5449 umm thanks and I liked both tracks
There are definitely a ton more bands/albums that could be on this list, but it's a good one, nonetheless.
I'm a bit surprised no Seether, Adema, Drowning Pool, Ill Nino, and Cold, though! I don't know if you'd consider Godsmack or POD (I don't think of them as nu-metal, but some people do). Still, fun list. : )
Man I fkn LOVED American Head Charge growing up. Couldn't get enough
Mostly agree overall... Apart from Punk Statik Paranoia. Album is killer, there is no bad Orgy album.
Excellent list, I grew up listening to Break the Cycle. I wouldn’t call myself a Staind fan either. As you said, that album has an extremely depressing atmosphere that I like about it especially hearing it now as an adult. Can’t say I like what comes after or even before it at that matter.
Do you think you will make a video on anything relating to Trevor? Like a tier list or review of something.
I didn’t want to just ride the wave on his death, but I do already have a TBDM tier list and several melodeath lists out and coming that he is mentioned in
mildly controversial, but fear factory was a big part of the nu metal era, any particular reason they have been left off? too industrial is the obvious point and i kinda agree but...if ya adding rob zombie and orgy...
The only nu metal album they had was Digimortal, which I could have easily put on here but it slipped my mind. None of their other albums are nu metal. It's more thrash-inspired industrial metal. Rob Zombie and Orgy ride the line much closer for a number of reasons but I agree the same argument can be made.
@@MetalTrenches fair enough...may as well add diabolus in musica by slayer too, was hoping to see some obscure bands like OUT, one minute silence and superheist on these lists but ya cant have it all...still in awe of these nu metal vids in general...great job.
Chimaria' self titled album is amazing. They turned a little more progressive and groove metal in the album. I dont consider them numetal to be honest.
Yeah me too
I love that you put Hed P.E. in there. Very underrated band of the nu-metal era. And Spineshank's Self-Destructive Pattern... Solid album front to back!
Only stuff that I really listened to a lot was deftones korn and sevendust albums and a lot. I liked Blackout when it first came out for a bit and then they literary died after that. Chimaira is not nu metal after pass out haha! Groove.The rest I can’t really comment on since I didn’t care for any of those bands anymore. I hated chocolate starfish so much and slipknot’s vol 3.
I read that Shadow Zone was the result of label pressure to become more radio friendly. I like the songs but the production on the album just doesn't sound like static x
GET OUTTA MY ROWBOAT!
Dark Days is my favorite Coal Chamber record of their early records. But their newest I think is the best
We'll get to that one...
I posted a comment on you;re last nu metal ranking video concerning mushroomheads ranking but lets be fair those first three album were not as good as XIII
I think the one thing that everyone can agree on is that Trapt is trash.
Truly in a tier of their own... and not in a good way.
The most entertaining thing about them is their singer's Twitter account, which is like watching a car crash.
Great list, I feel like we have similar music tastes. American Headcharge, Seven Dust, Nonpoint, Saliva and Hed PE to s. Spine Shank and Soulfly to B. Slipknot, Stained and Dope to C.
Are you into slaughter to prevail
@@JohnWayne-vf5bs They are pretty good. I liked Chapters of Misery back in the day but haven't really gotten into anything new from them. The Hardcore bands I love are Thy Art is Murder , Malevolence, Abhorrent Decimation, The Last Ten Seconds Of Life and old Fit for an Autopsy up until the great collapse album.
Slipknot is S
I like mtm,but I don't know why it is in the nu metal 3rd albums,even though it's not really a nu metal album yeah it has some rapping here and there , but I think some of the softer tracks and slow tracks are some of the best that's just my opinion tho,and by the way in my personal opinion meteora is LPs best album.
Yeah, and Disturbed stops being nu metal after The Sickness (and that one BARELY counts).
Linkin Park was never nu metal, despite it's strong influence on their first two albums. They had a far more mainstream, pop-influenced sound even from the beginning.
10:26-11:02 I LOVE THAT LINKIN PARK ALBUM!
the first show i ever went to was ozzfest 2004 and i was a slipknot obsessed 14 year so subliminal verses is intensely nostalgic for me, but oddly enough i agree its b-tier, the melodic stuff doesn't have the same impact as the first 2 albums
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Flaw in any of the rankings, Idk........maybe they're more unknown than I've imagined them to be.
This Staind album is more post-grunge than nu metal but yeah, it’s great
I would say that it's probably not worth doing a fourth albums tier list for nu metal. I enjoy the content but I think most nu metal bands at this point either are putting out crap records or have moved on to not playing nu metal anymore. Hell some of the records on this list aren't even nu metal: Linkin Park, Deftones, Disturbed (all records I love). I'll watch if you make it, I just think their wouldn't be much to talk about.
I actually already recorded it and there were some surprise gems. Won't be up for a while.
I kinda of shocked you put OV&V at F tier to me Dry Kill Logic blended that Nu Metal and Metalcore which sounded really good in my opinion.
i'd move Kittie to B tier, but Mudvayne goes to S; Lost and Found is the only album i own by them and it's amazing.
You need LD 50. Easily Mudvayne's best album.
@@MetalTrenches i've heard it. aside from "Dig" i don't...uh...dig it, but i can respect that you like it. your channel is great, by the way.
Would love to see a 4th Nu-Metal albums RANKED video! I'm a huge fan of the genre.
Already recorded... Let's gooooooo
@@MetalTrenches lmao
Skinlab, nothingface had solid 3rd albums, to bad Reveille didnt do a 3rd, they did create Genuflect which had a solid debut
I was big on skinlab 3rd album era in high school.
Nothingface has no bad records very solid band back in the day
HOT TAKE 🚨
Honestly, I’ve never thought of or considered Trapt to be nu metal. They were always more like Nickelback to me. 😂
I mean Headstrong has all of the hallmarks of nu metal, but they definitely ride the line.
Of course White Pony duh
Wow lol. So this might be the video we differ the most on so far. I was huge into NuMetal, but I'm a few years older so that might be why, but... Coal Chamber is a d teir band regardless of the album if that. Both the Slipknot and and Sevendust albums are FAR superior. The Limp Bizkit album was a big dropoff from the first two also. C teir for that one. Death knell for me. Also I think we know record sales don't mean shit as far as quality goes. Papa Roach is just straight trash even from the first album. Staind is pretty damn bad too. Almost entirely butt rock after Dysfunction. American Head Charge is another band that's embarrassing altogether. But hey White Pony is one of the greatest albums ever made so we got that! Lol. 4th albums is probably a stretch. Only a few bands even had decent releases and I think they'd be obvious, but what do I know. I jumped ship before you on most of these. I wouldn't include Rob Zombie at all, but he fell off after the second album anyway.
KoRn has a lot of badass albums. But their debut and Issues are by far my favorite, too. I'd give Follow the Leader an A. It's got some skippable tracks for sure, but the good is gold.
I like Saliva's back into your system. Pretty fun album. I forgot it was their third. I'd give it a B.
Limp Bizkit's CSatHFL is a lot like Follow the Leader, in my opinion. Some of it's great, some of it sucks. I'd give it a B. Their sophomore album would get a solid S from me, though. So freaking good.
Disturb's 10k Fists would get a C, maybe a D from me. I LOVE their debut album, but this was a little lackluster to me. I agree, too radio friendly.
Papa Roach's Getting Away with Murder is alright, but nothing comes close to Infest. Infest would get an S, Getting Away with Murder would get a C from me. I like their heavy, aggressive stuff.
Linkin Park's Minutes to Midnight would garner a C from me. Hybrid Theory was one of the first albums I ever had (alongside Incubus' Make Yourself) and was a staple of my childhood. With nostalgia, it gets an S. Meteora gets an A. But this one, I like it, but not THAT much.
Mudvayne, I totally agree with you. Probably a D.
Mushroomhead's all over the place for me. Haha
I can enjoy a little of Orgy's Punk Static Paranoia, but I definitely wouldn't say it's good. Probably a D.
The first couple of times I listened to Taproot's Blue Sky Research, I found it kinda lackluster and would've given it a C. But, the more I listened to it, the more I grew to appreciate it. I actually love the album and honestly, I'd probably give it a solid A.
I LOOOOVE American Head Charge's The Feeding. I discovered it around six years ago and was blown away. I'd give it an S for sure.
I haven't listened to Trapt's Someone in Control in many years, but I do remember liking it. I'd probably give it a C, maybe a B, but I don't remember.
White Pony is another album I grew up with and it has a special place in my soul. I'd give it an S without question and I agree, it's probably the best on this entire list.
I know a ton of these bands and albums, but not all of them. Thanks for adding to my list of material to check out! :)
I was supposed to see American head charge with mudvayne, but Brian oddison was found dead in the bus in the Venues parking lot
Very sad
Coal Chamber Dark Days is underrated. The cover of Rowboat and Beckoned are solid
OTep's third album was her best
I keep forgetting about them.
I remember I bought VOL 3 and then returned it because I thought I bought a censored copy from best buy lol but no. I don't like how his vocals sound and some of those songs are really awful to me. That's the only one I'd rand super different. Maybe D because I do like maybe 3 songs on there
It just wasn't the same.
I can see where people may have felt that way at the time, but they nailed it so well with the first two, that I'm not sure how much further they could have taken it. It integrates pretty seamlessly into their original sound on the best tracks on their subsequent releases, so I actually think the album aged quite well, in retrospect.
One band you didn't list, which really fits into the nu metal genre, especially their 3rd album...they fit in, toured with lots of these listed and were just badass. Fear Factory - Obsolete
The only FF album I consider nu metal is Digimortal
Disturbed " Ten Thousand Fists " was their 3rd album a hit album from 2005 and yes was Nu Metal
Even if Static-X were aiming at Korn (which I never thought of), they did it better. Easy S tier of me.
This series is lit
More to come
S: Mudvayne, Disturbed, Limp Bizkit
B: Korn, System of a Down, Sevendust, Soulfly
C: Deftones, Hed Pe, Linkin Park
D: Kittie, Slipknot, Chimaira, Powerman 5000, Rob Zombie, Staind
D-: 40 Below Summer, Static X, Nonpoint, Coal Chamber, Mushroomhead
F: Dope, Taproot, Papa Roach, Saliva, Trapt, Orgy
4th albums it’s up to you I don’t want to put you through more pain lol. This list was REALLY ROUGH lmao.
By fourth albums, nü metal kinda fell off. Linkin Park, Slipknot, Deftones, Sevendust, Disturbed and Soulfly all changed their sound, System of a Down and Limp Bizkit fell off hard, the guy from TRAPT became the guy from TRAPT, and everyone else faded out of relevancy. It’s only now that nü metal is starting to make a comeback with new bands taking the spotlight, which I’m stoked about.
You high
@@MetalTrenches don’t kill me lmao but I was tempted to put White Pony at D tier, I do not like that album
@@thedogfromraditude5449 Deftones Sevendust and Soulfly fourth records are Amazing
@@TCsInspiredVlogs I agree, and I’m not denying that, I’m just saying those bands weren’t nü metal anymore.
Machine head the burning red
Highly disagree with the Chimera placing
The Papa Roach album that you didn't mention as their debut is called old friends from Young years.
In Flames best album they ever released was their third album. Cries that you didn't include it here.
They aren’t even remotely nu metal though
Where's Chevelle?? I think tha they have more impact than Dope and Trapt... Good tier list. Loved LB being on S tier
I would be interested to see a 4th and 5th album tier list. At that point we are in a strange spot in those band’s career, nu-metal was far gone. I’m sure most of the records sucked lol, would make for an entertaining video imo!
I'd say coal chamber is the definition of so bad it's good, definitely lyrically. I honestly love all three of their albums from their original run even though Dez is guilty of crimes against the English language.
lmao
Controversial opinion : I don’t get deftones
I would have put chimaera in s tier. That album slaps I think. Nothing remains is a better song than any song on all those other albums
The next album is WAY better imo
Yes Nothing Remains, Save Ourselves, Inside The Horror (which is my favorite Chimaira song), Salvation, and Lazarus that whole album is killer.
Я сразу стал мотать до момента с Корн, но ты взял и впихнули их первыми👌👍
Cold?
I don’t normally go into these wanting to start an argument, but putting Staind in S but 40 Below in F? There’s no way that is right. No offense. I feel we see eye to eye on a lot of things, almost like we grew up together. But I loved that 40 Below record and for someone who gushes over Invitation…I was really shocked.
Side note: where is Ill Nino on these lists?
"famous monster" is my favorite song by saliva
I'd have probably put everything in S -Tier in A and then put Deftones in an S++ or something
Limp bizkit an S oh wow!
I think too many bands jumped in the nu metal band weapon like Machine Head and Fear Factory. And even Slayer.
Primer 555 had some good songs
To be honest I would have but the volume 3 on s tier but I see why you put it at b tier
Dez. 4life🤘.. anyway new
EXCRUCIATE 666 dropped
I love soulfly 3 era maybe its showing my age😂.
The next album fucking SLAPS.
@@MetalTrenches yes new album in summer also.
I find alot of the numetal bands died after their 2nd album. Nu metal kinda came and went quickly once metalcore came into the scene.
A lot of what is coming out now has strong nu metal influence, such as Tallah and Slaughter to Prevail, so I think it has found its place again, to an extent.
@@crazydud3380 ya I think the kids call it Nu-metalcore now. 90s numetal had some cool stuff.
I doubt anyone would put Vol.3 in S tier unless that was like their first Slipknot album. Voice is bad compared to first two albums, production is weird...sounds so muffled...and this was a rick rubin production so not sure what happened there. IOWA was so brutal and polished to fuck brutality and Vol3 sounds like random b sides.
Some people LOVE that album, but I agree that it tends to be younger fans
‘Lost & Found’ deserves to be higher !
No. But respect.
I'm curious where you would rank Chevelle's "This Type of Thinking (Could Do Us In)" considering it was their last nu metal adjacent record
One of my lesser albums from them. It just misses the bar. I definitely prefer Wonder What's Next and Sci Fi Crimes
@@MetalTrenches its actually *probably* my favorite album just before sci-fi crimes imo, but I respect our deviation in opinions.
Dude Chevelles wonder what's next
Yo you can’t have White Pony on here lol First off it’s hardly a nu metal album, secondly, as you pointed out, everyone else’s 3rd album can’t even compete lol
my biggest problem with White Pony is just the really really bad production and the lack of a decent bass.
The feds got him he did not just put follow the leader in s
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White Pony is miles away bc it's........
Not nu-metal.
@mamagroots Although I disagree...
Slipknot's 3rd album is IOWA.
MateFeedKillRepeat is not part of their full length discography. It’s a demo. Why do you think they called it “Volume 3”?
@@MetalTrenches I've never heard of a demo being 8 tracks and 51 minutes long. ;P
Transmission Infrared is my favorite from 40 Below Summer.
😅 I never liked white pony was super boring to listen to just my opinion lost and found is a better album to me i enjoy
Good series since nu metal arguably most successful subgenre and most recent so almost everybody knows these bands
Always a fun one
Kinda making a comeback very odd but i love nu metal got into it in middle school.
Limp Bizkit in S tier and Subliminal verses in B tier? Oh hell naw
Mudvayne in D tier LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL you wild
I’m always amazed at how shocked people are to discover that others have a different opinion than their own. Also that Mudvayne album sucks HARD imo. Gimme LD50 or nothing