He ruined his own life by being subconsciously proud of being the only one able to have kids and then rubbing it in his sister’s face until he sandpapered his own face off. Great job for throwing away your once-awesome relationship, dude.
I have heard a similar story on Reddit with the older brother being in love with the sister. When confronted he revealed the truth saying he was the only one that could give her children. 🤮 OP and her husband had to get a restraining order against him which he broke resulting in them moving and not telling anyone where they went since family + friends defended him even after his sweet home Alabama confession since he’s ‘mentally ill’ and needs his sister’s support. Load of BS if ya ask me.
My guess is this dudes a misogynist that’s uncomfortable around women. OPs pregnancy issue was leaving him uncomfortable, so he kept harassing her so she’d stop talking about it. He was hoping she gave up so he could say he told her so, but when she finally convinced, he saw that all his negative remarks would be viewed as cruelty instead of “advice”, so he panicked and kept digging himself a bigger hole.
Sounds like brother liked the attention he was getting for being the only one who was able to have kids easily with his wife. The fact he said OP was hogging the attention proves that and the way he kept trying to get them to stop trying. He wanted his kids to be the only kids so he could get the attention.
7:35 stories like this are wild because OP brother can bully her about whatever his issue was and OP is expected to just take it for the sake of “family” with family like that who needs enemies
Staying away from stress is best for a pregnant woman, and he's making it hard on her, which is insane. He's jealous of other peoples kids like they're gonna take away his kids' spotlight.
Did Jake have some kind of accident 7 or 8 yrs ago? With head trauma? Because that's what it feels like. His emotional, judgemental and logic brain centers seem to have been scrambled. His personality has flipped. Or there could be a tumor of some sort pressing into his personality .
Jake sounds like he's on drugs acting the way he does. They were supportive of each other until OP had fertility issues? Its not even that he's not being sympathetic or understanding. He's been out right cruel.
OP and Alex don’t want to get into legal proceedings, but I think them getting a Restraining Order against Jake will be enough of a statement in regards to custody
Your priority should be to protect yourself and your baby. It sounds like you need to go no contact with all your family that can't understand your need to stop the drama and stress.
Just my speculation based on what I’m hearing in the story…it’s too bad there isn’t anything from Jake’s side: Jake was his little sister’s hero at one time. Jake seems to have started acting outright aggressively toward lil sis OP after marrying and having kids with Sarah. The aggression toward lil sis OP and even Emma as he’s having more kids. It continues and (unexpectedly to OP) gets worse when OP is “coincidentally” gets outed on her pregnancy by mom. Emma admits to OP she got some of the same from Jake on exactly the same issue. Aggression toward pregnancy/fertility stuff. Sarah comes in at the very end to pseudo apologize and tries to recruit OP when she wants to divorce. Conclusion: OP is in a very tough spot as she may have to help Jake, the same person who hurt her for years. Jake appears to have two main issues that turned him from OP’s hero to OP’s tornenter/abuser: 1) Jake somehow developed an incorrect mentality that he needs to be the iron man tough guy in front of family women. Thus he never thinks he needs therapy. On this Jake TAH and he needs therapy BAD. Alcohol doesn’t have a PHD, MD or anything else. And he needs therapy for whatever traumatized him and “wild guess” here but it has something to do with his wife’s childbirthing issue. I have a feeling he keeps having kids because he keeps hoping to fix his previous trauma with do-overs, which of course is horrible. I think OP needs to do everything she can, with Alex, to get Jake help. She can offer him eventually as he shows improvement some supervised time with Lily. It seems like he’s separated from his kids and newborn so instead he wants to spend time with OP’s instead. Also, I would dig a LOT deeper on the situation with Sarah. She doesn’t seem 100% at all.
This story sounds almost unbelievable, but it really highlights the complexity of family relationships and how some people can excuse unacceptable behavior by blaming it on mental health issues. It's sad that OP and her husband had to move away just to protect themselves, but sometimes personal safety has to come first. It's quite disturbing to see family and friends defending such behavior under the misguided notion of "family love" or misplaced sympathy.
Yep she's definitely selfish for *checks notes* getting pregnant and being happy about it 🙄 he's just mad that now he won't be the "special" kid that had given the family grandkids. OP doesn't need to do anything she doesn't want; and i don't blame her for not wanting anything to do with her hateful brother. If telling the truth 'turns people against' you, maybe you shouldn't do/say the things you're doing. ETA: i love how he asks people for help in saving his marriage instead of listening to his wife and working with her to fix it. I hope OP can reconnect with her SiL and niblings.
The only person that needs to get over himself and apologize is Jake. Your parents, uncle and sister need to wake up and realize exactly what Jake is: an overbearing, egotistical, pompous jerk!
To all pregnant ladies on a similar situation, jeez, prioritize yourself and the baby, stay away fro what you deemed toxic temporarily ot permanently, dont overthink things until you give birth. As for the brother, he needs to change first before thinking fixing things with his wife, go to rehab.😮
You’re absolutely right! Prioritizing the well-being of both the mother and baby during such a sensitive time is crucial. It’s important to set boundaries with toxic relationships, especially when stress can have a negative impact on pregnancy. As for the brother, seeking help and working on personal issues like addiction is indeed essential before trying to rebuild relationships. It’s a tough situation, but focusing on mental health and healing is key for everyone involved. Thanks for sharing your thoughtful advice!
Attention people if you live in the US and fear that someone is a danger to themselves or others please contact the police and have them Baker acted so they can get the help they desperately need
She's a graphic designer. If she was such a hotshot back in her time. Pretty sure she can find jobs to work from home and bring home the bacon herself. Because if you get divorced, you still have to pay all your bills by yourself. Alimony and child support can only goes so far. 😒 Zoe go get a Job 🙄 Never spread someone so thin that they can't handle it. And they fail because you chose not to help them.
I think he has postpartum depression. 1 in 10 men experience postpartum depression compared to 1 in 7 women Women usually see peak symptoms around months two to three while men usually peak later in the first year Men tend to show more anger and risk-taking behaviors while women tend to display crying, hopelessness, loss of interest and guilt
Ah yes 😌 poor jake 😔 having 4 kids just to rub it on his sister's face. And then call her selfish because she finally got pregnant. Then always being the "poor victim". Honestly seems like a narcissist :/
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Regardless what he has done, showing up drunk to see your newborn is unacceptable.🤨
Real
Nothing is ever Jakes fault . Everything is someone elses fault or people ganging up on him.
At this point he won't learn and he will not change.
Very true... he sounds like a complete narcissist
He ruined his own life by being subconsciously proud of being the only one able to have kids and then rubbing it in his sister’s face until he sandpapered his own face off. Great job for throwing away your once-awesome relationship, dude.
What is Jake's problem... he's got FOUR kids and he's accusing his sister being SELFISH???!!
IMO? Jake is an A$$.
Even some men can be delusional AF. 😮😊
I have heard a similar story on Reddit with the older brother being in love with the sister. When confronted he revealed the truth saying he was the only one that could give her children. 🤮 OP and her husband had to get a restraining order against him which he broke resulting in them moving and not telling anyone where they went since family + friends defended him even after his sweet home Alabama confession since he’s ‘mentally ill’ and needs his sister’s support. Load of BS if ya ask me.
. . . . . I need a shower after reading that "Flowers in the Attic" ick....and mind bleach...
My day is officially ruined...
I was getting the same vibe from this story. I kept waiting for Op to say something like that.
The next time he shows up drunk and disorderly, have him thrown in jail. He won't get help on his own.
My guess is this dudes a misogynist that’s uncomfortable around women.
OPs pregnancy issue was leaving him uncomfortable, so he kept harassing her so she’d stop talking about it.
He was hoping she gave up so he could say he told her so, but when she finally convinced, he saw that all his negative remarks would be viewed as cruelty instead of “advice”, so he panicked and kept digging himself a bigger hole.
I don’t think he is but he totally acts like one…but his insensitivity-to-outright aggression seems to be very specific.
Sounds like brother liked the attention he was getting for being the only one who was able to have kids easily with his wife. The fact he said OP was hogging the attention proves that and the way he kept trying to get them to stop trying. He wanted his kids to be the only kids so he could get the attention.
7:35 stories like this are wild because OP brother can bully her about whatever his issue was and OP is expected to just take it for the sake of “family” with family like that who needs enemies
Staying away from stress is best for a pregnant woman, and he's making it hard on her, which is insane. He's jealous of other peoples kids like they're gonna take away his kids' spotlight.
Yeah, Jake didn't change ........he just stopped hiding who he really was
And apparently, his true self is an attention seeking narcissist
Is it jealous of your life or if he's in love with you or your husband?
No Jack feels that ONLY he is allowed to have children in the family.
Did Jake have some kind of accident 7 or 8 yrs ago? With head trauma? Because that's what it feels like. His emotional, judgemental and logic brain centers seem to have been scrambled. His personality has flipped. Or there could be a tumor of some sort pressing into his personality .
It seems odd that people feel the need to “announce “ that they are going NC with someone. Doesn’t that just perpetuate the drama?
Making sure everyone knows so they don’t reveal stuff and give locations
Jake sounds like he's on drugs acting the way he does. They were supportive of each other until OP had fertility issues? Its not even that he's not being sympathetic or understanding. He's been out right cruel.
Main character syndrome
I think he is mad he isnt Lilys father.
she didnt steal their thunder that their soon to be 4 child she didnt annouce it mother just get it annouce it it their 4 kid thunder already gone
Why the f*ck does hw think you're selfish for having a baby. He sounds weird
It takes the attention away from his crotch goblins. How dare she.
OP and Alex don’t want to get into legal proceedings, but I think them getting a Restraining Order against Jake will be enough of a statement in regards to custody
Brother is a narcissist. And what is with all these relatives telling OP that "family comes first" like her baby isn't family!?!
Honestly it is not Sarah’s fault it is Jake’s
Your priority should be to protect yourself and your baby. It sounds like you need to go no contact with all your family that can't understand your need to stop the drama and stress.
Just my speculation based on what I’m hearing in the story…it’s too bad there isn’t anything from Jake’s side:
Jake was his little sister’s hero at one time.
Jake seems to have started acting outright aggressively toward lil sis OP after marrying and having kids with Sarah.
The aggression toward lil sis OP and even Emma as he’s having more kids.
It continues and (unexpectedly to OP) gets worse when OP is “coincidentally” gets outed on her pregnancy by mom.
Emma admits to OP she got some of the same from Jake on exactly the same issue. Aggression toward pregnancy/fertility stuff.
Sarah comes in at the very end to pseudo apologize and tries to recruit OP when she wants to divorce.
Conclusion: OP is in a very tough spot as she may have to help Jake, the same person who hurt her for years.
Jake appears to have two main issues that turned him from OP’s hero to OP’s tornenter/abuser:
1) Jake somehow developed an incorrect mentality that he needs to be the iron man tough guy in front of family women. Thus he never thinks he needs therapy. On this Jake TAH and he needs therapy BAD. Alcohol doesn’t have a PHD, MD or anything else.
And he needs therapy for whatever traumatized him and “wild guess” here but it has something to do with his wife’s childbirthing issue. I have a feeling he keeps having kids because he keeps hoping to fix his previous trauma with do-overs, which of course is horrible.
I think OP needs to do everything she can, with Alex, to get Jake help. She can offer him eventually as he shows improvement some supervised time with Lily. It seems like he’s separated from his kids and newborn so instead he wants to spend time with OP’s instead.
Also, I would dig a LOT deeper on the situation with Sarah. She doesn’t seem 100% at all.
This story sounds almost unbelievable, but it really highlights the complexity of family relationships and how some people can excuse unacceptable behavior by blaming it on mental health issues. It's sad that OP and her husband had to move away just to protect themselves, but sometimes personal safety has to come first. It's quite disturbing to see family and friends defending such behavior under the misguided notion of "family love" or misplaced sympathy.
Yep she's definitely selfish for *checks notes* getting pregnant and being happy about it 🙄 he's just mad that now he won't be the "special" kid that had given the family grandkids.
OP doesn't need to do anything she doesn't want; and i don't blame her for not wanting anything to do with her hateful brother. If telling the truth 'turns people against' you, maybe you shouldn't do/say the things you're doing.
ETA: i love how he asks people for help in saving his marriage instead of listening to his wife and working with her to fix it.
I hope OP can reconnect with her SiL and niblings.
I enjoy the story but the movements of the background makes me feel like i have vertigo😢
The only person that needs to get over himself and apologize is Jake. Your parents, uncle and sister need to wake up and realize exactly what Jake is: an overbearing, egotistical, pompous jerk!
To all pregnant ladies on a similar situation, jeez, prioritize yourself and the baby, stay away fro what you deemed toxic temporarily ot permanently, dont overthink things until you give birth. As for the brother, he needs to change first before thinking fixing things with his wife, go to rehab.😮
If anyone push for things, just tell them you will revisit the issues after the birth.
You’re absolutely right! Prioritizing the well-being of both the mother and baby during such a sensitive time is crucial. It’s important to set boundaries with toxic relationships, especially when stress can have a negative impact on pregnancy. As for the brother, seeking help and working on personal issues like addiction is indeed essential before trying to rebuild relationships. It’s a tough situation, but focusing on mental health and healing is key for everyone involved. Thanks for sharing your thoughtful advice!
get restraining order/move houses/get door cam!
Attention people if you live in the US and fear that someone is a danger to themselves or others please contact the police and have them Baker acted so they can get the help they desperately need
I know people will hate this, but if the family didn't put so much "worth" in having kids this would never happen
She’s trying to get pregnant but continues to drink wine??
There's a man named Alex in every story
What is it, another Alabama story?
Don't think so, he was a dick to the cousin that also had problems with pregnancy, so there's something else going on
Jake was a jealous pri CK. But there has to be more to his insecurities besides jealousy
She's a graphic designer. If she was such a hotshot back in her time.
Pretty sure she can find jobs to work from home and bring home the bacon herself.
Because if you get divorced, you still have to pay all your bills by yourself.
Alimony and child support can only goes so far.
😒 Zoe go get a Job 🙄
Never spread someone so thin that they can't handle it. And they fail because you chose not to help them.
I think he has postpartum depression.
1 in 10 men experience postpartum depression compared to 1 in 7 women
Women usually see peak symptoms around months two to three while men usually peak later in the first year
Men tend to show more anger and risk-taking behaviors while women tend to display crying, hopelessness, loss of interest and guilt
tf is wrong with jake
*So Jake is human garbage at the end of the day.*
Please make more opdays
Nta
Ah yes 😌 poor jake 😔 having 4 kids just to rub it on his sister's face. And then call her selfish because she finally got pregnant. Then always being the "poor victim". Honestly seems like a narcissist :/