Learn To Skate A Pool - Part 2 of 2
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Learn the basics of skateboarding a pool. Explains the proper techniques for carving a pool and reaching tile. Created by Eric Muss-Barnes, who brought you the FREE "Learn To Ride A Skateboard" DVD. This is the second video in a 2-part series. - กีฬา
@Patrick Harmon - Frontside is usually harder for everyone. Doesn't matter if you're goofy or regular, frontside is scarier because your back is to the ground. Falling backwards is obviously a lot scarier than falling forward. The trick to frontside carves is speed. Get going fast as hell. Once you're flying around at mach 10, there's no way you'll fall, because the centripetal force makes you stick to the wall.
I find frontside a lot easier, well, more exciting I guess as it's got a better feel on reentry
It's a nice video, liked seeing how you progressed and achieved your goals.
To launch out, obviously you need a lot of speed first. Once you can fly at the exiting transition really fast, approach it at a slight angle, as if you were getting ready to do a backside kickturn. You need to do it at a slight angle, so the board doesn't hit your butt. Ride straight up past the coping and plant your lead foot on the ground. At the same time, the board will shoot up beside you and you grab it. Don't worry - you'll often miss the grab when you're learning. Just keep practicing!
Setups are about personal preference. For pool boards, I like decks about 9" to 10" wide, a 15" to 16" wheelbase, Tracker 161 or Independent 169 trucks, 1/2" soft riser pads, wheels that are 60mm to 65mm and about 97a to 100a in durometer. Don't underestimate bearing quality either - fast bearings are vital. Any of the Bones Ceramics are good. For conventional bearings, Bones Super Swiss 6 are my favorites. I know this isn't a video, but I hope this reply helps! Have fun skating!
Nice work. I haven't been on a board in almost 16 years and last week I just got the bug to buy one. Already landing some flip tricks but forgot the feeling when your board is overhanging the coping. Can't wait to drop in again. Just want to say thanks because guys like you inspire people like me to push the limit. Nice work with your documenting and great to see your dedication.
Thank you! I'm always stoked to get some positive feedback. Good idea to start your friend on the basics. My first drop-ins were on about a 3-foot bank and then a 4-foot mini-ramp. But I never dropped in on vert until I learned pools. Now I can't get enough! Thanks again for the reply. Keep skating! Keep having fun!
Go look at other videos on my channel. You may like "Skateboarding Pools - Relearning Frontside Carves"
Thanks! That was the whole point - to document my progression and start with just learning to drop in, all the way up to reaching tile. Hope you get the chance to skate pools someday! It's just as fun as it looks!
Thanks for making these videos. I've been getting back into skating bowls and these are really helpful.
@Xediion - I love every kind of skateboarding. Street. Pools. Skateparks. Downhill. Longboarding. I do all of it, but I mainly ride pools and transitions.
Not only have I ridden a McGill, but I've ridden Mike's. Skated with him on a movie set a couple days back in the early 90s. I love all the 80s pool decks. Remember that guys like McGill were still inventing a lot of modern pool and ramp tricks on those boards. So, yes, they work great.
@RaymondHinton - Absolutely. I also wanted to show people that it takes long time. I was already a decent bowl/ramp skater and it still took months to learn to carve a pool properly. My hope was this would encourage people to not give up if they are progressing very slowly.
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.
The Cove is at Olympic and 14th in Santa Monica. Have fun!
your videos are awesome! i skated my whole life but stopped in my late 20's early 30's. i started again a few years ago and love just cruising and skating the bowl. your videos are super helpful and inspiring to me. glad to see other "older dudes" (haha) still skating the bowls too! thanks man!
Thank you. I appreciate the compliments. As for finding a time when a pool isn't crowded, remember every skatepark is different. Most skateparks are going to have days and times when it is more crowded compared to others. Just go to your park as much as you can and find out when the crowds tend to be the smallest. Best wishes and have fun!
You progressed on a good schedule. You did great. I started riding in the mid 70's and it took me around 3 to 4 months of steady riding on a wooden 1/2 pipe (20 feet long by 12 wide) to hit vert. Naturally we started to go a foot or 2 above vert, then we extended the vert another 2 feet. I see other posts mentioning the old school board. I ended up riding a board reffered to as a "Pig" 13" wide by 31" long. Tracker trucks with logan park riders. Used to glue 80 grit discs to it for grip tape.
@aren840 - Thanks. Glad you like it. Yes, eventually I will make more. It may be a few months before I do it, but I have some ideas I'm playing with. In the meantime, I have other clips at SkateboardingCalifornia.
@NewComer299 - Personal preference. You can use whatever you want. Pool board. Popsicle stick. Longboard. Whatever you like best. I like pool/vert boards the most because they have a wider width and a longer wheelbase than popsicle sticks so they are a bit easier to control.
@sk8librarian - Thanks! That's always flattering when someone with a lot of knowledge can learn something from what I'm sharing.
@cristhian2188 - Thanks. Just keep at it. Like anything else in skating, it takes a lot of dedication to get good at it. But once you learn, it's SO much fun!
Thanks. I explain kneeslides in the Learn To Ride A Skateboard videos in the chapter on skateparks.
Great vid(s)! I just hit tile at the vans combi today. Learning how to pump and carve has been a challenge for me, but practice and taking my time has been paying off.
Good point! You're right. I may need to create something like that. Thanks for pointing that out...
@justin0599 - I built it myself. It's a Vision Aggressor II with silver Tracker SixTracks that I painted. The paint was actually fluorescent pink, but, yeah, they look more orange.
Great video dude. Love the pics from Skateboarder Mag at the beginning. I owned all those mags back in the day. Skated my first pool at Thunderbowl in Va Beach back in 1979, then Apple Skatepark in Ohio and one of the best parks ever for pools Cherry Hill Skatepark. Going from wooden halfpipes to pools was very intimidating for me back in the day. Your vids wil help lots of kids. Nice work. My town now has a world class skatepark but my knees and feet are long worn out getting old sucks.
@mcxznbv - Thanks. I'm glad it helped. Like I say in the video, just stick with it. You'll get there. Sounds like you're doing really well on your kickturns. Just make your turns shorter (instead of doing a full 180 degrees turn, do 160 degrees so you come down at a slight angle, then do 140, then 100 and so on) and soon you'll be carving.
man i loved this video, im subscribing right now loved the explanations and for me the whole video was perfect thanks for putting that up
good for you man, love the commitment!
Sweet vid. I'm just getting in to skating bowls, and I know what you mean: you just get obsessed with it. It's good to see the learning curve. You really just have to be happy with every little bit of progress, even if it's just carving a little higher or something seemingly insignificant like that.
Thank you very much. Good luck on those ollies!
Top 3 tips for frontside carves:
1. Lead with your shoulders. If you turn your legs first and your upper-body keeps facing the wrong direction, you'll end up in big trouble. Turn the upper body first.
2. Go fast. If you go too slow, you will fall. When you go fast, centripetal force (or is it "centrifugal" - I always confuse the two?) will keep you on the wall.
3. Bend your knees. If you keep your legs too stiff, you'll never make the turn. You gotta flow.
Eric, thank's for sharing this!
To save your hips - - You will love the "POC Hip VPD 2.0 Shorts". I have slammed my hips pretty bad a few times. Now I use them every time I skate ramps or pools. They are awesome.
Very cool man...... thanks for all your hard work!!!
You're inspiring and humble. Well done. Will be showing his to my six-year-old as an example of how to be a cool guy. Thanks.
Man I loved this vid. Love your self-analysis and almost-scientific, determined approach to what you do... Keep up the good shit man.
@cheese293 - That is all your preference too. Good rule-of-thumb is to make your trucks as loose as possible WITHOUT getting speed wobbles. So, start with them super-loose and just keep tightenng them a little more, and a little more, until your speed-wobbles go away. Be smart too - don't have your kingpin nut half falling off your kingpin either. If you can't get the trucks loose enough without keeping a safe amount of thread on the kingpin, buy softer bushings. Good luck and have fun!
@XLyricsmakerX - Always. I skate every day and ride skateparks about 3 or 4 days a week.
@mcloughnog - Soft or hard wheels is personal preference. I tend to ride about 97a in pools. That is my favorite. Most people like Bones SPF wheels, which are a lot harder - closer to 100a or 101a. Some folks go down to 95a and are happy with that. All depends on what works best for you.
@adam4965 - Jay Adams was one of the first pool skaters. He rode pools on his ZFlex. As for the weight of decks, that depends - they come in many different shapes and sizes and materials.
@SuperMafia16 - You're welcome. And thanks for the compliments. Never try to drop-in before you are ready. That's how people get hurt. Just take your time and be patient with yourself. Start small and work your way up higher. You'll learn it. Just give yourself time.
Thanks for the tip. This video is 4 years old. I've had some hip protection for quite some time now.
@NathanAsani - Mainly a Vision Aggressor II with Tracker 161 trucks, and OJIII 60mm 97a wheels.
Very very insightful video. Thanks a lot.
@sasukelgty - Funny you should ask. I've done berts on banks and flat ground, but never even tried in a pool. I should work on that!
@iamSplaz - I like pool boards a lot. The Vision deck is great. 16"+ wheelbases and 10" wide feels far more comfortable to me than the little 8.5" wide 15" wheelbase popsicle sticks. It's all a matter of preference though. Try different decks and ride whatever you are comfortable with.
@youlosez - The free DVD actually does have 2 sections on the proper "tuck and roll" for falling on flat ground and it explains how to do a kneeslide when skating ramps/bowls/pools. Don't be afraid of getting hurt though. Everyone falls. Everyone gets hurt. That's just part of skateboarding.
@TheDownhillsurfer - Quality pool/street decks always have some concave.
Nice skating. This video show a lot of good stuff. I just switch my wheels up to some 56mm spitfire and want to start skating pool, bowl stuff. Thanks for the upload on this video.
Gooood ! The skatepark is good also.
@DJQuips - That's cool. No need to apologize. I didn't take it as an insult. Yeah, I'm still working on getting some more skills. Thanks for the compliments.
For elbow and knee pads, I personally like ProTec DropIn pads. I have also heard very good things about Smith Scabs and ProDesigned.
For wristguards, I use ProDesigned. When it comes to helmets, the Bell Faction or the POC Receptor+ are really good.
Hope that helps!
Thanks for this video man, im really hyped to learn pool now
@cbp4425ify - Awesome. Glad to hear that!
05:40 on, best pump and all the hard work pays off.
awesome stuff. I bought a pool board and so i need to make some time!
Board types are really up to the individual. I don't tend to ride popsicle sticks or 80's boards very much lately. My favorite types of boards these days are big pool decks such as things from Deckcrafters or Pool King or Five Points Skates. You may want to check my other channel and the video on "Why is wheelbase important on skateboards"
I like decks with a 16" to 17" wheelbase and most popsicle sticks are too small for that. Although, one of my favorite decks is a popsicle stick that is unusually large - the 35" version of the "Yoface" by Bustin. I'd also look into Deckcrafters and Pool King. Those are some of my favorite decks.
thanks for the video man, helped me a lot
@LearnToSkateboard thank you!!
That's so sick dude, keep shredding.
Yes. Longer wheelbase helps too.
Nice! The Captions are working! I love it.
I know they are not perfect, but I think I did a pretty good job.
Thx for implementing.
@Xediion - I still skate every single day. Pools about 3 or 4 days a week.
i like that one part where you drop in on rob zombie where it says "devil on your back, i will never die" then you drop in. so sick, i wish i was committed to skating a bowl but i love the street section of parks more.
@rushreef - Thanks for the compliment. No, I have never tried surfing. But I think skaters who surf have much better style in their skateboarding. They just flow a lot better. So, I'm flattered that you thought I was a surfer!
@BadIdeas101 - I got the Vision Aggressor II at SoCalSkateshop.
@cheese293 - Board preferences are TOTALLY up to the individual. I have a LOT of boards (20+) and the boards I enjoy the most on vert are the modern pool boards - not as big as 80s decks, but a lot larger than popsicle-stick street decks. Something like many of the Santa Monica Airlines boards are great. 8.5" to 10" and a 15.5" to 16" wheelbase, I really like. Check out my other site - SkateboardingCalifornia - to see some board review videos.
very nformative, you are very good, to bad we dont have nice outside skateboard park here near montreal like yours
hey dude thats sick and i love your Vision deck
Your videos are cool! Thanks ; )
Johnny Cool, Montréal, Canada
awesome video man
@glencowcow - Correct. Front trucks stay on the whole time. If your front trucks ever leave the cement, then you are technically doing a "kickturn" and not a true "carve". When you truly carve, it's all flow.
yeah don't have too many bowls to skate here in wisconsin. closest is an hour drive, but is currently filled with snow. good to hear some wheels on concrete as I wait for the thaw. will try out some of the tips
@SuperMafia16 - You back up as far as you can and just push. Just like starting from the bottom of a halfpipe or a miniramp. Depending upon the size of the pool, you should be able to get 2 or 3 good pushes and get your back foot on the board before you reach the opposite wall. Then you just pump it like normal.
Best video ever!!
"Bones Swiss 6" are my favorites.
@tubeaddict718 - That was "Dragula" by Rob Zombie.
@DeBaroGBP - Well, I dig all the local SoCal board makers like "Santa Monica Airlines" and "Deckcrafters" and "Skater Made" and "Pool King" to name a few. They all make great stuff. If you're looking to purchase online, check out places like "SocalSkateshop" or "SkatesOnHaight" - they have some nice pool decks. Check out my "What are the parts of a skateboard?" video if you need specifics on parts. I prefer boards 9" to 10" wide with long wheelbases, 60mm to 65mm wheels and fast bearings.
Great video man, The pools are that what I want to start after 15years of skateboarding on the streets and about 5 years break of that.
I can see on your video it isn't gonna be easy like I supposed.
Thanks for advices and keep skating, cuz it's great thong. :)
@dellmonkeyy - That board is my Vision Aggressor II. You can see a video review and all the specs of that board by watching video "CIEyVwy_EtY"
wow thanks im actually learning how to skate pools now and this helped!
@DeBaroGBP - You don't need risers. I usually use 1/2". Lots of skaters don't use them at all.
@fatsacks70 - Interesting idea. I've never heard of anyone doing that. Although, the "best line" really never needs to be that precise, so I don't think it would be necessary. Just knowing the route (and which order to hit which pocket and hip) is all that matters.
@JGottshalk9 - Vision Aggressor II with OJIII wheels - 60mm 97a.
right on man! Got me wanting to hit up the bigger pool tommrow.
thanks to you i learned to skate pool in 2 days, thanks man!
Hey your videos was really helpful. thanks! :)
Duuude! This video is sick!
Dude. Awesome.
@airwalkia - Seismic trucks are fantastic on longboards, but I prefer traditional trucks on shortboards.
Glad you enjoyed it. As for California Girls Skateboards, it's very easy to understand. I love skateboarding. I love girls. I love California. So, I put all three together. :)
I have lived my entire life in Santa Monica area and only been on a skateboard maybe 6 times....crazy, especially since I use to see the original Z-Boys in Santa Monica and I was the same age...this video gave me some great tips.
Info Only...I was into MOTOCROSS
@sasukelgty - Pool in Long Beach? I don't know of one in Long Beach. You could always check out SoCalSkateparks and see what parks are there.
@sasukelgty There was (and still is) a 70's bowl where I grew up in New Zealand which was setup perfectly for bert slides. The only problem tho, it was the fastest way to wear through your wheels. Me and my friends (who all surfed) used to compete for the longest slide.
Still working on that. Plan to post new videos once I can do something worth showing.
great vids man im going thru the same progress and getting better
and i see a 2 faces in tho pool
@1996XxchrisxX - You have the basic idea. Check 7:31 in the video. Remember, it takes a LOT of practice. So, just because you understand the technique doesn't mean that you will be able to do it right away. Keep working at it. In time, you'll figure out the proper timing for getting the most speed.
I love your videos, bro!
Is it easy to find a time when the skate park pools aren't crowded? In costa mesa it seems like there's always a line for the pool, so I'm a little bit intimidated to learn...screw up and and it's back to the end of the line!
Absolutely amazing thank you for such an informative video. a quick question about your setup obviously you go pretty fast in pools and wobbles are bound to happen I have my back truck tighter than my front would that be an issue with a pool? how tight or loose are your trucks.
@SuperMafia16 - I couldn't drop in when I started. I just climbed in an began from the bottom. Start that way if you're scared to drop in. You can learn the drop in later.
such a sweet board. i got a ripsaw with some peralta bones wheels