Jordan Peterson ~ Why Can't You Let Go Of An Unfair Treatment?
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- Jordan Peterson ~ Why Can't You Let Go Of An Unfair Treatment?
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clean environment and plumbing !! nize suggestion dude !! 4:10
5:40 It is in the interest of Conservative parties wanting to be re-elected, for the masses to be underfed. Very interesting fact.
Orbanist Nazi State Media: You have met Viktor Orban, who is also often maligned by certain media outlets. Do you think what you could have read about him reflects reality?
JBPeterson: Possibly, I can't say for certain. I know that one of the things your PM is trying to do is reinstitute the metaphysical foundations of Hungarian culture. He might be lucky and succeed.
Another the guest of Führer Orban in the Nazi eagle nest, the Führer-Castle of Buda, Father Jim Blount: I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your prime minister. Another name for Jesus is Viktor.
Thank you!
your welcome dearest Getcherd-woman@@getchertified
Orbanist Antisemitic Racist Nazi State Media: You have met Viktor Orbán, who is also often maligned by certain media outlets. Do you think what you could have read about him reflects reality?
Old White Misogynist Person:
"my message to the Hungarians: Do not rebel against your leader! Your leader is trying to restore the metaphysical foundation of the 1000 years old Hungarian empire
I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your PM. Another name for Jesus is Viktor"
So the reason why you can’t let go of an unfair treatment is because you feel disgusted with yourself for not doing something about it. I had to watch the video a few times to get it
Wow, thanks, I forgot what the video was about by the end
Thanks for clearing that up. I screenshot your summary too to remember the lesson.
Yes!
Beatriz Villacorta thankyou. is true.
I think this is where I’m at. I need to forgive myself for being an ignorant kid & I also need to forgive my parents for their ignorance & not protecting me.
We instinctively know that it is our anger at allowing ourselves to be treated badly that burns inside. But we need to hear this to fully understand.
We have to forgive ourselves for lacking 20:20 vision. For not knowing what we know today.
Even when I stood up to my coworker I still felt the rage inside for a while. Maybe it resolved quicker though and there was the added feeling of vindication and feeling proud of myself.
I do not think it is a one size fits all answer. The injustice can come at such a young age that it is inconceivable to be upset at yourself. But you can be angry at the monsters who hurt you.
@@suras8984That's a good point. I've felt similar where I've stood up to injustice, but injustice is still injustice at the end of the day. I was angry for a week or two, but I got over it. Someone who doesn't stand up for themselves sufficiently enough could be troubled for longer however.
No. You make recepients of abuse to be responsible for their abusers' actions. How mad it is
This man is a hero. He will be well forever because of his contribution to society. Eternal peace my friend.
I feel like he and I could have a never ending conversation. From sociology to philosophy, political to spiritual, the depth and range of topics would just keep evolving indefinitely.
Such a brilliant mind.
Jay Chapman. Yes, I would like a conversation with him also, but I fear I haven’t got any where near his
intellect unfortunately.
@@gailcrowe727 oh absolutely. I am pretty intelligent but the opportunity to enjoy conversation with someone more knowledgeable, experienced, and brilliant is the whole allure for me. I doubt very seriously that he would benefit whatsoever from the conversation. However I would immensely. Lol
@@jaychapman2045great minds benefit even from the mind of a fool or a child
@@greenjupiter very true and wise statement.
@@greenjupiter True, but only when that person is actually interested in learning and not challenging you just for the sake of it, or to stay right.
Get well soon Dr. Jordan Peterson. I am praying for you and your family.
The second part of this video makes me think of the political effects on a public constantly menaced with fears of disease outbreaks.
I believe this is true, but why would you think that public and speaker belong to different groups?
As in, who's doing the fearmongering? They're the same, as they both contribute to the gestalt and influence each other, but there's consolidation on the Big Media end in most countries, just due to infrastructure and licensing. This is lessening as platforms emerge to collate public perspectives, which is demonstrating that the two zeitgeists have value differences. Hope that came across better.
@@marcus8710 Again, this is true, yet media works on rating money... It is as you say a complex system as every democratic republic.
MSM is like a bad trip for conservatives.
Decorated Kobold I know EXACTLY what you mean , but the brainwashing continues unchallenged , so many believe all they see on tv and msm
We all experience unfair treatment, it may take sometime, but let go and live your life. You lose if you don't let go.
Quote from the new Tylor, the Creator album: "I don't know what's harder, letting go or just being okay with it."
100% true,
you can let go, right after inflicting consequences on the wrong doer!
@@foome36 Well i don't think just being okay with it is the antidote.
If you don't let go then its still in your mind. If its still in your mind then your view is affected by it.
We need Professor Peterson now more than ever in the US
I hope he comes back soon. Such a brilliant and nice man. Get well soon Mr. Peterson.
I swear these videos keep coming at the perfect time. I was literally just pissed off at how somebody reacted (disgusted) to something I did and this answered everything. I was not pissed off at the person but at myself for not responding how I would've liked. It clicked so perfectly and this isn't the first time that one of his videos have done this.
That is so interesting! I’m learning so much from you Professor Peterson.
I have become hugely self aware and less agreeable( thereby less resentful ). I have also become way more courageous since I started watching your videos . Stay strong 💪
Love his humor here, seems so lively and invigorated.
It’s hard to let go if it’s still going on. It’s most insidious if there’s gaslighting that it’s not going on and you should “heal” because it’s “ over” when in reality it’s not
Young people- because they are innocent- clamor for justice. Those of us who have more years/experience, while we understand the importance of justice, also tend to look for understanding and forgiveness... 🙂
We love you! You’re a genius! 😇🤍🥰
Treat people in the way they treated you that's for me is a definition of the fairness
I understand my brother. But when we act like them. We lose, my brother.
Respect yourself for the tolerance you’ve shown and get them out of your life.
When an unjust thing happens to me and I can't defend myself, I'm upset because of the injustice of it. It's out of balance and as long as that balance is not restored I can't let go of the unfair treatment. I don't feel shame or disgust of myself for not doing something about it. Sometimes you are in a dependent relation where you cannot act against your own interests, but have to take the abuse.
It's like a personal hell😢
You do feel shame and disgust for yourself if you realize that somehow you allowed the abuse to happen.
For example if you saw tons of red flags, but decided to ignore them, or found excuses for the person.
Most of the time, we do allow the bullshit that happens in our lives by ourselves.
@@kristinaR Yeah, it's always our own fault, isn't it?
@@franek_izerski I don't know if this was meant to be sarcastic or not, but I get it.
No one chooses where to be born, so it's not always, but if you end up having the same problem with different people, you might not be ethically wrong, but you for sure have at least made some choices that led you to the same situation again.
Sometimes the problem might just be not standing up for yourself, sometimes it's the people that WE choose, sometimes it's both, sometimes it's something else.
I came to that conclusion by my own issues. You do you!
There are times that one is a double-bind and they choose to try to minimize the damage.
It is interesting that human sense of justice is influenced significantly by a bitter drink. It reminds me of Jesus on the cross when he was offered a bitter drink. Yet, He stayed there. I never considered the bitter drink as intensifying His suffering.
I didnt understand what gaslighting was until 1.5 years after my parents metred that out to me for that entire time. I'm disgusted at myself for not knowing and being so confused and then letting them do that to me for what ended up being 2.5 years before I walked away because it was so confusing. I feel so stupid that I didnt know what was happening.
Living in California I am developing a consistant feeling of utter discust.
Yea I'm with you
Yeah. I agree. I'm probably going to end up being a hermit. It's easier to do so these days.
Same here. In texas. I plan to leave the country soon
@@rorytennes8576 Where are you going to go? Most countries are socialist now.
I'm not even in California but I understand what you mean! P.S. I'm not sure how I came to this video either! but the utter disgust comment you made is how I feel about London. I'm London born and raised.
I am torn between two parts of myself , one that yearns for connection and one that seeks fairness ,I have let someone close to me walk over me for fear that I would loose the connection , I remained silent to keep the peace , but to every decision there is a price , the anger that I suppressed turned into hours of overthinking and daydreaming about the things I should Have said and things that I would say if I ever stumble upon similar situations
Get well soon doc.
My sister is helping me with royalties, i am very grateful and happy for her, I love my brother and my sister.
Great content! Misleading Title. Should rename it to something that deals with disgust or the immune system.
Jordan ..the man who knows everything ..
Thank you for educating Humans about psyche energy 🙏🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
I can understand why this presentation is voted amongst Prof. Peterson's best. The mention of ways in which even judges can be influenced in their decision-making just by way of an unpleasant courtroom environment or how hungry they are is very powerful. How about the impact that a certain courtroom environment may have on a defense attorney and whether or not he or she is hungry (or ill) during summing up before a jury? Or how about a rumor which negatively changes his or her attitude towards his or her client? Human factors. Yep. There sure are plenty of ways to negatively influence people in all walks of life, including but not limited to, those engaged in various court duties.
So the take away is always set boundaries and speak up after repeated bad behavior. If you dont you will regret it later when you gain some more self respect. Happened to me, had somebody disrepsect me for years as a teen and never did anything, now as an adult i make sure to set boundaries when ever i get the urge. I do wish i could go back but im moving on more these days
Anyone noticed how much He was smiling and how... Unburdend he came along Back then? Glad His fire kept burning though😅
Makes sense to me, justice and cleanliness are both forms of order and speak to how we think the would should be, in contrast to how it is.
I had some terrible teachers in my school that treated me and some other kids especially unfairily and honestly sometimes I wish I didn't care so much aboit being expelled and just told them what I thought about them. Now I just hope that I encounter them and get to tell them to go off themselves because as far as I'm concerned that would be best for the world. And when I really think about it I understand why I thought I shouldn't have stood up for myself, however I can't let go of it feeling so wrong... Now I believe I will try to stand up for what I believe in, no matter who against. If I must I will leave my home and live on the streets in order to live my values maybe that would be best.
We all feel unfaired treated sometimes.... Life is not fair but you can try to equalize it if you choose. At least not fight against the equalizer. I feel often my life is deeply unfair, wrongly judged, treated, mistewarded, not were I am because of others dont realized my talents and potential. Its a very naturally human state when your gap between what you do and what you have potential to achieve differs very much. And its ok to feel that way. Feelings, thoughts happens automatically. To say you can not feel this feelings, all those bad feelings is just like denying you water, sleep or food. Just allow you to feel this feelings, all bad feelings but not get you along that destructive train. Be the observer, life, thoughts, feelings has its own life, independendent of you. You are not in control. Trying to take control of it just makes you more controlled by it. Ok... Its there but its not me. I choose my actions more wise than falling into such traps
I gotta say that at the 2:30 mark, the discussion about parole before lunch. lol. Makes sense to me. That seems similar to buying a car that was manufactured on a Friday, or having fragile care packages received at the end of the day. Or perhaps those situations may depend more onto particular variables common to a job-routine's attention span.
Maybe when you get forced to eat a specific thing as a kid, something you really do Not want to eat and thus beeing disgusted by it your whole life. Maybe it's just YOU being disgusted by YOURSELF for not standing up and not eating it.
As the youngest of 5 kids, I was always accused of being the ‘bad guy’ when I raised objections around the family and that treatment led to becoming estranged siblings. I snicker at companies that trumpet their “culture and values”- Be ready to get screwed by anyone at any time at their pleasure, to suit their need. It’s how they do it that matters. And, to not take it personally means you’re not a person! It’s the lessons we learn from these experiences that are valuable. Pick up your toys and go play with someone else. That’s my advice at the end of the day.
He makes perfect sense and sentences
The phrase hangry kept popping into my mind
I have just been in court. I felt I let myself down by responding when I shouldn't have done. I was a woman who would not be silenced. Other people did not react in the way I did- but I had to defend myself. Maybe I'm far more conservative than I thought!
For those who think the title is click bait Peterson explains it here 3:05 , non western view 3:48 , then he goes back to comparing why we dont let go because we focus on cleanliness. correct me if im wrong but he then adds in the judge story because whether we actually leg go of unfair treatment is "if we are hungry or not" and your levels of disgust...
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A better worded title could be
"Why can't you stop holding a grudge over unfair treatment"
It’s the same thing lol?
@@SunGodNika-ws9zu I know it's the same thing
It's the same thing worded differently
that was my point. I was offering a different choice of words
Stop being a dick 👎🏽
@@SunGodNika-ws9zu not really, I came under the impression that an abused can't leave an abuser.
Humility is a virtue for a reason, not a weakness. Meekness is a fruit of humility... power under control. But charity is the source of both. Charity sublimates these negative encounters and experiences, and turns them to the advantage of everyone. Therefore, be careful who you see and how you see. "The eye is the lamp of the lamp of the body."
Walk away, stand up for yourself 😊
Because we are smart and because they shall not repeat it. There is no explanation to that. Do not tire yourself
I think this is 100% true
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Lógico.
Cómo no se va a enfermar teniendo esos conocimientos...
Los conocimientos, no sólo hay que tenerlos.
A veces son una carga, y hay que saber llevarla...
Watching these old recordings of Peterson - I do wonder if any of His students at that time in that room realise that they had the privilege of experiencing the lectures of one of the greats.....
Well, I learnt one thing.
Make sure my stomach is full so I stay in a good mood
I suffered some kind of breakdown/ptsd eight years ago
(I have recuperated somewhat but still suffer consequences)
and have since noticed that when I am stressed for some reason
(not ordinary press for time), I temporarily get "germophobia".
The insight into this helps a bit.
(Although I would not dream of NOT washing my hands
when I come home, before I eat and (of b-y course) after going to the loo.)
While they are interesting, the findings that JBP talks about,
I wonder how disgust augmentation from emotion, hunger etc works
with the fact that people tend to become more conservative with age.
Does disgust sensitivities increase with age, too?
Also, I would very much like to see the evidence for cleanliness being the difference
between "honour cultures" (dishonourable shame-cultures) and Western cultures.
"Honour culture" and clan culture is often explained by the absence of a central power.
Agreed, a couple of centuries ago, extramarital sex was punishable by death
in many Western cultures (although the culprits were rarely executed), and shameful
- but we hardly led more cleanly lives here than they did in the Orient in those days.
(Rather less cleanly lives, as we did not have turkish baths.)
And I have still not heard of a single person in the Western culture
that killed a daughter/granddaughter/sister for "honour" reasons.
And certainly not anyone whose actions were condoned by others.
(Wives and their lovers, yes, as Carlo Gesualdo did.)
even my dog expresses and knows a sense of injustice. get well soon please jordan.
I wonder if there good professor would like to revise his thoughts about political conservatives and their relationship to pathogen avoidance in the light of current (COVID19) events.
David Apeji as a conservative myself, I think that Conservatism doesn’t make you less inclined to avoid pathogens in this case. It makes you less likely to believe that an overreaching government is capable of keeping you safe from the pathogens. And I would rather risk getting sick and be able to feed my family than stay safe and starve or be evicted from my home. So I have a high amount of disgust for a mayor that thinks that he can keep me safe and prevent me from getting a virus by keeping me hostage in my own home while my life slowly falls apart.
@@lizzyjeanne well said.
@lizzyjeanne Yep. It's all about preference for small government and a love for individual liberty. This is the confounding factor here.
Thank you.
Disgust is strong 💪
I am absolutely not surprised disgust is a response to injustice, but it's not my response to an injustice that has disgusted me, it's the politician's, I can't even look at his picture without feeling sick.
Take care doc. Sending you good thoughts and love from Singapore. Jeanne
I find shame in my cowardice, to address an (intoxicated) event of a male colleague, to firstly, be unable to trust him (again, though tolerate the specter for many a year), and then not intervening when he did it again against another person, whom I was related, for my fear of the economic consequences to the company that I had ownership in.
I was a coward and I live with this constantly.
I am aware of this at least on three occasions which changed life trajectories remarkably, (for the worse, I fear), of three individuals, myself included.
After a Decade, I still cannot get over the unfair treatment, but more so, that I chose to be impotent, fearing a deleterious outcome (economically) for myself; self-preservation of the narcissist. ;-(
We changed travel policy "covertly/quietly" , so that no other staff member found themselves (male, though previously not an issue), with this person especially while intoxicated.
Every night I force myself into a trance, to not be "yelling" (vocalizing) and rerunning my shame through my mind.
I hold no Malice. I believe he was just lonely for male "friends", and this was his way of showing male' friend affection, but it did not go down well.
We respond different because we have dealt with those same teansgression
My enemies don't like being disliked by me and just can't let go of their insane obsession with me and MY life!!!! They harass,stalk and slander me and demand me to not have any say or defend myself!!!! Only they matter!!! Mf's i had enough of their petty attacks
Thinking about this while Covid rages while I am in a conservative stratified society in Latin America with a large indigenous population. I am very glad the first case was a returning local from a trip to Spain rather than the USA. SEveral cases have been from air passengers traveling from Spain. STilI feel,after curfew and social, distancing is over I will need to be cautious where I go due to,potential stranger danger reactions from locals. EVen though Americans have not been many either the virus still I know some people look at tourists askance here.
Right. Im 52 yrsold and like you Mr. Peterson, born in canada and raised to abide by law, right from wrong and do unto others......etc
Consequence, if not morals is enough for most to follow, so when mistreatment, abuse, cruelty is ignored and perpateators dont face consequencws as me and my chikdren did,utpisses me tf off and a road trip to bat his knee caps still aint iffthe table. I highly recommend we take matters into our own hands since the governing authority profits and pleasures from the ripple affect and profound psychological trauma and damage of psychopaths and patriarchy.
This is also known as having the last word, feels good, but the respondent has another ‘last word’. It’s great when you do get the right line, at the right time. Ever try blowing a raspberry, in less serious moments. I was married to a narcissist and I could never get my point over. He could follow me to keep his point going. He died in 2020, I guess I got the last word. I’m a Roman Catholic indoctrinated woman and guilt comes easily to me, although I’m learning to be kinder to myself. I like when JP’s humor comes out.
This sounds like Jonathan Haidt's work where he cites Kohlberg is that correct?
So basically our political orientation is influenced by earthly desires or the life-state of hunger among other lower life-states or worlds such as hell (rage), animality, and anger (perversion) in the buddhist cosmology. There is a book written by Fyodor Dostoevsky called Hunger too. I see similarities between the writings of Daisaku Ikeda and Jordan Peterson's.
I can an have let go of unfair treatment at almost every job I have ever had. What I find more difficult to overlook is when others are being treated unfairly or having their legal rights violated!
So, sneak some good smelling scent, like cookies, into court.
Cookies? Not if the judge is also hungry...!
The safety guards might find it peculiar you arrive in the court room pockets full of cookies. Worth a try!
Christian teachings tell us to turn the other cheek and receive another blow. To do this we have to understand that the moral failure is that of the perpetrators, and not ours.
2:20
Correlation is not causation
The real number might not be 70%. The real number might be 1 or 2 percent.
But lawyers who note the advantage, and schedule their court meetings after lunch, are more likely to be good lawyers.
And good lawyers are more likely to be granted parole for their clients.
Perhaps good lawyers are roughly 70% more likely to win their parole cases? :) :)
Just an example, I’m sure there’s many possible explanations
Agree. Another possible factor: they try the more difficult cases in the morning, when everybody's fresh and to get the hardest work out of the way.
Jordan, for all his merits and good advice, is often weak when it comes to the interpretation of numbers.
@@paperEATER101There have been numerous studies linking hunger to lower willpower. When your willpower is low you tend to make the decision that is easy or quick. If you're a judge you'll probably be disgusted with perpetrator so you act upon that instead of using logic in your decision and say to hell with them. This hunger thing doesn't only relate to judges, but everywhere. Trying to get a loan? Go the bank after lunch. Want a raise? Talk to your boss after they eat. Buying a new car and trying to haggle price, after lunch. I was an actor and it was pretty much written in stone that if you auditioned before lunch or toward the end of the day that you were never going to get the part.
Is the idea of a upper and lower peak - i.e. a hierarchy - akin to a theological notion of "higher" being closer to heaven, that is where the good is and where the resources are aplenty? As opposed to being "lower", where all the decay falls and where the snakes are, and where ultimately our bodies end up: in the ground ?
Brilliant channel!
I'm disgusted with the Iowa Democratic Party and how they are being morally reprehensible by the way they are disseminating their caucus results
Huh lol. It's run by Democrats, what'd you expect?
Serenity Prayer.
I cant forgive myself for a horrible mistake, which led to so much fonancial trouble, that i am a burden to my family, i am in so much pain because of it. I am angry at my ex for walking out on me when i am needed him most, the divorce make him financial independent, he and his wife enjoy life, while i am dependant on my family to survive. I see daily how my friends are going on vacations, have a good medical aid, while i am stuck what i got. Life is not fair, i know, but must it be this hard? I asked the Lord to forgive me, every morning, but my i pay everyday of my life for making the wrong decisions of accepting my package. Yes, i am looking to the cross, but my circumstances stay the same. How do i go on?
The hungry judge analogy is in Russian novel “The Master and Margarita” where Pontus Pilate imposes harshest sentence on Jesus because he has a headache that day
The compulsion to shower is peculiar to canabanoid hyper emises
These video are ageing well
The title of this clip is misleading. This vid had little to do with the subject of feelings regarding unfair past treatment...
Very interesting!
Give him a sandwitch before your hearing
If i lose 200 at the casino. I can live with that. If someone steal 20 from me. I'll be pissed!
You’ll find it deeply rooted in the wanting of approval
Certain PTSD there is nothing really you can do about it keeping your mind occupied with task is the only thing I know to do about it
I regret the fights I didn’t have not the ones I did have .
If my brain worked as much as his i would.need tranquilizers too
Dito for me too.
But for those who don't know, a lot of his anxiety (and thus need for anxiety meds) was caused by his beloved wife being diagnosed with terminal inoperable cancer
Insightful
I see it now 👍👍
Interesting that threats to bodily health correlating with tolerance of authoritarianism explains both the submission of both Russian and American conservative groups to authoritarians
I was like, throwing the dart back
I hope these videos are monetized because you can use that to get a camera with better picture quality. Great information but it feels like I'm watching videos from the 90's most of the time
Because you think of what might have been.
Letting go of unfair treatment is delusion, and no matter how hopeful you are, its just a surefire way of ensuring its continuation.
Someone had me work in their business 100 hr a week for 9 months in promise I'll receive shares. I was kicked out.. I feel intensely and I can't do a single good thing. I can't sue.. I can't go beat him up.. or steal.. it's just so hard. I feel so pathetic and used.
I just feel they not worth my time. If i buy bad product. If I can get refund. I will stand up. Otherwise I don't want fight and just get apologies. As I mature I find out apologies worth nothing 😅
Vezi ca Anathema pica din cer
Nu s evenimente de rautate evil intre oameni ci cele pe care nu le poti controla
core that takes place with discrimination and racism, and they'll never let you live it down
Jak dlouho budu muset poslouchat kecy tý policajty tady?! :D
i was treated badly for years in school due to not having a tribe and being different i could forgive them becauese i understood that it was my work that led to their attacks on me,i forgave myself because no one dares to attack me again,
I wonder if the resent move to conservatism in Australia is a direct result of the greater emphasis on cleanliness due Covid-19
If your boss is the jerk and i am poor should i defend myself? Its hard man sometimes life itself is unfair.