Small Boat Owners Guide To Buying A Boat | The Fish Locker
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- Buying a boat can be a fantastic experience, or a minefield. I have been asked quite a few times by followers and subscribers, what goes into owning a boat and when buying your first boat, what are some things I should know. Here are some of the different things that you should consider when looking at getting a boat. The costs, the kit, the uses and my own opinions from my experience. I hope this helps.
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This boy talks pure sense LISTEN ALL .
David Hughes - 😬 My wife may disagree. 😆
@@TheFishLocker you missed fishing licence fees or dont they apply for private small boats ?
Anthony Magowan clown
I thought I could't afford a boat... now i Know i can't. thanks for ruining my dreams at 2 AM
Princess Llama - Aww. Sorry 😔 But like I say, if you really want it you will make it work. 👍🏻🎣🐟🛥
Well, you might wanna consider buying a kayak (yes, seriously)
@@asfdestroyer where as not a terrible idea i don't have storage for one. (yes i did look into it, but it's not practical for me. at least not the now)
@@princessllama2663 There are very nice inflatable kayaks. I use one for recreation and can do 30-40km in a whole day on the sea. I keep it in the trunk of my car
Princess Llama there are now a range of inflatable kayaks that are surprisingly good! I have seen up close the inflatable sail boards and they are rock solid. Just a thought.
I don't think there's a video that exists where the person talks more sense than this guy.
Thanks for the honest and simple description.
Brilliant video.
I just hope that the video helps people to avoid any expensive mistakes. 😊👍🏻
Great video John, I used to have an Orkney 520 brilliant boats. I agreed with the boss (wife) that we wanted to go a little bigger she wanted a head on-board rather than a bucket. I now have a Merry Fisher 625 so just a little larger than the Orkney 520 but the costs go up exponentially. Engine services from my 30hp Mercury to my 115hp Honda have gone from £250 to £500, I now moor on a pontoon for ease of use versus launching each time via the slip. Annual charges at the marina have gone from £1700 to £3800. Daily fuel has gone from £25 to £50 average. I also bought a trailer for maintenance and to tow down to Mylor which was £2300 2nd hand and then another £500 to service it up once bought. My recommendation is to stay on a trailer for costs and maintenance and stay around the 18ft mark for best cost to fun ratio. Bigger boats are really nice but they do cost a lot more.
Mark Adams - That is a fantastic comment mate with loads of great info for anyone reading. I think I will possibly go up to a. 19ft boat but that’s my lot. 🛥👍🏻😉
@@TheFishLocker John, what would you buy if looking to pay 10k tops for the whole set-up. I think that’s roughly what your set up is? Orkney 520 or something else?
I like this guy. Honest, open and transparent. Seems like a good guy with good intentions. Subscribed. 👍🏻
- Thank you very much Neil and welcome to our channel. I hope that you enjoy the rest of our content and if you have any questions - leave us a comment and I'll try to get back to you. 😄
You’re welcome. And thank you.
I have owned boats. (Too old for it now) Listen to this young man, what he says is realistic and makes good sense, especially about co-ownership which is a good idea so long as you are prepared to be flexible. Best done with a group of people who already know each other. Listen to what he says about maintenance because if you don't keep up with it you will end up with a wreck within a few years. The boat lives in an hostile, salt environment and has to have money spent on it each year to protect it and its motor. This guy is a natural and should be on mainstream TV. Bravo.
- Thank you very much Gerald. I am glad that you agree with my opinions and honesty assessment. Take care and have a great day. 😊
"touch wood" and he knocks his head...lol what a humble lad, love this channel
- Thank you, we are simply sharing what we know and love doing mate. 😊
Hidden cost, the wine the Mrs consumes and the cleaning of the portaloo when she won't hang her arse off the side! 🤣
wesley chidgey - 😆🤣👍🏻🛥
Cheers John, kids crying... haha just kidding. This vid is 2 weeks too late, not that it would have made a difference - I'm the happiest broke man on this planet. Money doesn't buy happiness but it will buy you a boat and that's the same thing really. Tight lines 🎣
Anthony Kennedy - I absolutely agree with you. Owning a boat has brought us such joy and has given us such incredible memories. Well worth the money. If you really want something you find a way to make it work. 😊👍🏻🛥💙
Been having mixed feelings about buying a boat. And you’ve just swayed me.... I’ll stick to £25 a go fishing trips from my local harbour!
Thank you for all the time and effort you put in to educating everyone. Your a top man 👍
that sounds like a bargain tbh
Princess Llama - I agree. I cannot remember the last time a charter trip cost me £25. 😆🎣
Dave Phillips - Glad I could help Dave. 👍🏻😉🛥🎣
Damn that is a great price!
@@otroflores91 In San Francisco area it's more than $100 for one trip. £25 is literally a steal. Although a charter boat give you less flexibilities though. e.g. If you are done and want to come back earlier. Too bad.
I am looking around for a small fishing boat with an outboard here in Spain, roughly 5 meters semi cabin like yours. I want to go fishing here, though I have next to no experience. This video, and some others on your channel around small boat buying and ownership have been extremely helpful. Thank you so much!
I am glad to hear that. Good luck with the boat buy
This really is a must watch video if you are looking to get a small boat. All the information I needed . Much appreciated...
Fish Fish - It was my pleasure mate, if it helps folks out then it was worth doing. If you have any groups or friends who you think would benefit from this, please share it on. I’d really appreciate it 😉👍🏻🛥🎣
This was absolutely first class information. Really, really appreciated.🙏
- I am glad that you think so. I hope it helps folks out. 👍
Great vid, total sense. As a Yachty with aspirations to eventually owning a sailing yacht in my retirement. I totally agree with all you've said. Many friends that have owned vessels have said that the happiest day of their life is when they take ownership of said boat and the second happiest is when they have sold it. if you take your purchase price end divide by 4 you'll have your yearly running cost.
Steven Norbury - I haven’t heard that Steve, but when thinking about it. That 1/4 estimate is not far off. Great comment. 👍🏻🛥
i bought a 15ft boat with a running 2 stroke engine. 2 weeks ago, the starbord, port lights are brand new got them for free since they followed with the boat., lantern i got for free, the only thing i paid for was the new paint, ancher, rope, and some boat cleaner, there is no fee to let your boat out at the marina here, i already have first aid kit, and a fire estingusher, i only use it in the lakes here to fish. the boat cost me 1709 pounds including a good trailer. and i have just bought 175 pounds worth of items. so it really depends on person to person, but i really like your opinion it helps people understand that owning a boat is not cheap, and i have a boat saving fund of another 2000 pounds just for emergency if i need new parts or anything. so money wise its planned out, and i love taking my dad and brother out fishing every chance i get, its really worth it the memories i get is priceless. and im the same as you i want my kids to grow up with boats and make a good memory with them, when it comes to fishing and the ocean. in my personal opinion if you have the money and the time i would say buy a boat, you will not regret it, but dont buy a to big of a boat.
It is very sensible to have an "emergency money" fund when boat owning as you never know when things may go wrong. 👍🏻
I've been looking into buying a boat when I retire soon and have read and watched everything I've been able to find on the subject. This has contained more useful information than all of the rest put together. I was once told that a boat is a hole in the water surrounded by wood into which you throw money. Thanks for the sound, practical and unvarnished advice. Great channel btw. Top job all round.
mynature - I am very pleased to hear that the video was helpful and informative for you. That is why I made it. If you have any other questions you can think of that I didn’t answer, just give me a comment. Tight lines. 😉👍🏻🛥🎣
Certainly puts the armchair dreams into true perspective. Very informative, much appreciated.
sako 375 - No problem mate, any time. 👍🏻🎣🛥
Thanks John. I got the boat bug a couple of years ago and decided to start with a sib. Works great for me as I live in the city and am lucky to get my van parked. Takes half an hour to get form the van to the water. All 12v from a boat battery to a trolling motor that's ideal to get offshore.
Tommy Harvie - Thats brilliant Tommy, if it works for you and gets you where you want to go that perfect. 👍🏻🎣🛥
glad i found your channel john.you do some great stuff,please keep it up.i've had a couple of boats in the past,nothing special,but would like to do it again.well pleased with the info you have supplied here.
david oldman - Thats great to hear David. I’m very pleased to hear you’re enjoying the content and tight lines mate. 😊👍🏻🎣🐟
A great honest video. Anyone thinking of buying a boat should watch this.
Nick Cahill - Thankyou Nick, hopefully it helps folks out. 😉👍🏻🛥
I have a warrior 175, I would say a day on the water is going to cost £50 that's fuel, a few pasties, bait depending on what the target is and a few pints back at the marina and that is on top of all the other costs that John has mentioned. But the memories and quality time I have had since owning a boat has been priceless, we as family love being out on the water.
Dean Hadfield - My boats have brought such pleasure and joy to my life and shared memories with my kids that I feel it is absolutely worth it. 👍🏻😊💙🛥🎣
Yes spot on Dean depending on the marks I'm travelling to the fuel for a day out costs me between £30 and £80 I have a 115hp on a Merry Fisher 625
Mark Adams I agree depending on the forecast and the target species impacts the effort put in to the days fishing. No body wants to fail.
The best advice I’ve heard in a long time. My father built his from a hull bought in Southampton many years ago . I’ve rebuilt one which cost a load hence the term B.O.A.T ( break out another thousand) and I’m a sucker for punishment I’m rebuilding another 🙈. So the only advice I can give I look for a good boat around 5 k with a spare 5-6k to cover costs upkeep and a hidden problem that may appear good luck to all and tight lines 👍
alun phillips - Wow Alun, you must love punishment. Haha. I fully agree with you, that is a very good way to budget and won’t steer you far wrong. 😉👍🏻🛥
So many things you don't think about when wanting to get a boat. Thank you for this video.
Liz P - No problem Liz, hopefully this well help folks avoid some nasty expensive surprises. 👍🏻🎣🛥😊
Nice and simple advice there, hit the nail on the head. It's not a cheap do anymore and to do it properly and safely costs money. I've owned boats most of my adult life but have always been trailered and soon learned that it was a lot of money sat there most of the year doing nothing. I took the decision to put my latest boat on a marina pontoon at £1500 a year for a 5 meter boat. It's expensive but the best thing I ever did, all my kit is left on there secure, just turn up at the boat with bait and a brew, turn the key and go! Love your videos, keep em coming.
- Absolutely Martin, its all about justifying the cost. I hope this video helps folks out and helps to avoid any nasty surprises. :)
Hi what a great bit of advice for those wanting to own a boat. I have decided on a sip as I have no storage, limited funds etc. As I only intend to fish in and around a couple of harbours with maybe fishing very close inshore on settled days maybe only 1/2 mile out this will do for me coupled with a 4 hp motor it will do for me. Thanks for doing this video. Bill
Easy Fishing - Bill I have a couple of friends that are doing exactly what you described. Perfectly suits their situation and fishing. Good luck to you mate. 😊🎣👍🏻🛥
I been doing some major Overtime time to collect 10k on a boat (used),made it half ways so far,,but after Your video..I'm happy and broken in the same time I'll stick to and inflatable..thank brotha stay up!!
- My boat, trailer, engine all in to get the whole setup would be about £10k.
I had a jetski set up for fishing. Jetski fishing is really popular here. I paid $10k for the ski & trailer, then still put another $3k into it. Everything is just much more expensive to cope with the marine environment. If you don't use stainless steel, you'll have to keep replacing items. Even though I enjoyed it, I wasn't sad to see it roll up my driveway on the back of somebody else truck. One of the things that surprised me more than anything is that some lads get on a jetski, never having ridden one before & more importantly, they have no education of seamanship or navigation rules.
Another great video. Thanks for all your effort.
Ian Laccohee - It isn’t just jet skis, I see it all the time. People buying big powerful boats having never owned or even manned one before. No concept of seamanship or safety. It’s really scary sometimes 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🛥🎣
Thanks a LOT for sending me this link after I told you I was thinking of getting a boat. You really talk sense and I'm actually definitely going to buy a shared boat with 2 of my mates now, as this seems most sensible for me as I don't think I can justify the costs to only use it a few times per season. Much respect.
- Glad I could help mate :)
Good job. When I bought my first boat a 1995 17ft Whaler Dauntless I pulled the trigger to quickly. I'm no lugnut but in the first season I had to replace the fuel sender, steering cable, two batteries, battery switch, bottom paint$$, axle and leaf springs, hubs bearings, run new wires for bow and stern, 300ft 1/2 inch anchor line, anchor life jackets, flares, $1500,00 for a mooring a mile from shore and a dingy with motor, insurance, registration SeaTow, couple of guages, Prop repaired, plugs, water separator, boat stands, cover and more.
The following season I sold it for less than I paid for it and with the wifes ok stretched the budget and bought a 2014 21ft Dauntless CC with a low hours Mercury 150 hp with a 40 gallon tank that had never seen salt water. I paid to have that one surveyed and it didnt need anything. I was going to trailer that one but the old lady surprised me with a slip that cost $2250.00. These days i can just step onto my boat and go which is slicker than snot on glass.
The only thing i can recommend is that if your going to spend any significant money for the boat you get it surveyed or at least take a bud who knows his chit. Buyer beware. arg.
Moldering One - That is so absolutely true. When viewing a second hand boat. If you don’t know, bring someone who does know. It is like buying a car only more likely to go wrong and less easy to repair. Now you have a great working boat. How much joy does it give you compared to how much it cost? 😊🛥🐟
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Well thought out and explained, I couldn,t justify a boat for myself, I don,t have the time or money so i,ll just watch on youtube because I enjoy it 👍👍
- Thank you, hopefully this video helps folks to avoid any expensive surprises. 👍
This guy is brilliant, very clear and concise information that has all my niggling little thoughts answered. Thanks mate, much appreciated.
It is my pleasure David. I have done a few other boat owning/buying videos that I hope are helpful. Have you seen the comparison video?
Thanks for the nice explanation of the situation with the boat selection. I love boating and owned a boat since I was in school... Now, some 30 years later, I have the following formula: A 3.60m Kolibri MD SIP wit solid flooring, inflatable keel and a 15hp two stroke Yamaha FMHS as a portable kit and a 16 ft with a 50hp on a trailer at the garage. Cost of ownership and operations is nice and minimal for the SIP, as the fuel use of 15hp Yamaha is 5-6 l/h at WOT and I rarely go through one 25l tank in a day and for those long camping trips I have a lovely 45 liter tank on wheels that actually doubles up as a table in the middle of the boat. For this kit I go through about 3 one liter cans of oil that add up to 150l fuel per season. Oil to use - TC-W3. I particularly like Johnson/Evinrude XD30 or XD50 oil (Low smoke, clean plugs, engine not gumming up... I always run 50:1 premix.). It takes me 45 minutes solo to inflate and rig the boat, but you have to be really close to water, because all items have to be carried by hand, or wheelbarrowed. Boat made out of high PVC material density is 60kg, the engine is 36 kg and fuel in a can be up to 30kg. So just mind your back or better have someone to assist you. A very good idea is an electric air pump to inflate and deflate your boat. Now, if you plan to use this kit in colder weather solo- just forget about it. Boat becomes stiff and it is nearly impossible to assemble the flooring panels on your own. Othervise - brill! fast, fun, mobile and convenient. Make sure you get those extra soft pillows for the seats, or you will have a "baboon ass" towards the end of the day. Electronics: basic fishfinder with GPS plotter.
The second kit is good for longer trips and further from shore. Used to have a nice 4 cylinder 50hp fuel injected 4stroke Yamaha on the boat, but it was nicked. This is always sad and it can happen. So, now I have a Johnson 50 2 stroke that no one wants to steal from me and this is also a separate line of expense. Let's start with Yamaha 50hp 4 cycle... My boat has a stationary 60L fuel tank and I would run a healthy 45km/h at 4500 rpm burning 8 l/hour. My fishing spots are usually 2 hours away, so up to 30-35 liters just to get me there and back and remaining 20-25 to move about in search of fish and for trolling. John’s boat with a 30hp would be much more economical burning about 5 liters at cruising speeds though. If I go WOT at 5500 rpm on the Yamaha - I burn 12+ l/h.... As for my good old long shaft Johnson, the fuel story is different. At WOT it happily guzzles up to 17l/h and at cruising speeds it sips 12-14l/h (this is a pint every 3 minutes!!!*8). So a 4 hour round trip is 48-56 liters of fuel and every time I go slightly above 5000 rpm - 60L for a day trip is not sufficient. Therefore I have to carry a healthy reserve of at least 30 liters and a small 10L can just in case. The rule here is better to come back with unused fuel reserve that run out of fuel on the water. It all adds up to 100L/day. And guess what... 100 liter of fuels needs 2 liters of oil. Add this to your running costs. Always carry reserve oil on board.
Apart from that - the trailer needs new bearings replaced every two years. As for electronics: a nice chart plotter with a modern fish finder is a must. VHF of your choice. Anchor winch is a must (in my humble opinion), motorguide is really nice to have, boat batteries at 100A/H and second battery to start the motor if first one runs out - also expensive. From my point of view, the boat option you select must be convenient. It is easy to pull a trailer to the gas station and fill the tanks up, but it is more complicated is you need to feed your larger two stroke with jerry cans, especially if it goes through them faster than you can carry them to the boat. As for the car - I burned several clutches over the years trying to pull out a boat from a steep slip, so, in my humble opinion, an old timer automatic transmission 4*4 car with hydraulic coupling are much better for this purpose. Not sure about ultramodern CVT and other robotic gear cases. They might not withstand such abuse.
Very honest and informative, John. I am sure you have saved a lot of people loads of heartache. As for me, I’ll now be looking at kayaks 😉
Kevin Johnson - Hopefully like you say this will help folks out and maybe prevent a few nasty surprises. As I say, if you cannot afford the outlay solo you could always look at a boat share?
Well done on an excellent presentation. I am 'that guy' whos retiring soon and this info is priceless. 👏👏👏👏👏 🇮🇪
- I truly hope the video helps folks out. 😊
@@TheFishLocker without doubt. 👊
Good advice and delivered well. We're buying one this month. Thank you.👍
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Awesome advice.
Thanks for sharing.
Take care,
Steve. 👍👍👊
steve outdoors uk - Hopefully this helps folks avoid some nasty expensive surprises. All the best Steve. 👍🏻😉🎣🐟🛥
I would always say start small work your way up. Or at least until you get used to boating and know what sort of boat and motor will suit you in the future.
Trojs Fishing - I didn’t even think of saying it like that. My natural progression was small to bigger but that was only as my budget grew with my age. Good shout mate. 👍🏻🛥🎣
One of the happiest days of my life was when I bought my first boat ..... the second happiest day was when I sold it! Okay, I've had three boats since the first, but always feel a sense of relief when I sell it on - must be nearly time for my next boat. Seriously, the hidden costs are substantial and it is always worth keeping in mind that your boating needs may change over time. My next boat will be a small F-RIB or SIB, convenience and ease of storage. The days of owning a larger vessel and keeping it on a mooring are long gone (simply can't justify the ongoing expense).
Excellent video, mate, and always worth pointing out what you might be taking on when you opt for your own vessel.
Snaggit Fishing - Hopefully this night help folks out. They are a big responsibility aren’t they. I think I will keep this one for another year and maybe go to a 19ft over 16 for the added space as the kids gets bigger.😉🎣🛥
I would suggest to anyone thinking about buying a boat,that they spend at least a year fishing ,boating and launching with someone like John or someone with years of experience, before rushing off to buy a boat.Boats and the sea are great but also can be very dangerous, John is a experienced skipper, and makes it look easy,but im sure he will tell you he has had his scary moments.He is a Good fisherman as well ,as a sensible man .Perhaps John might cover this area weather, wind against tides, boat handling, overloading, solo safety boat balance, speed, planning, and positioning in rough weather etc.Look forward to more on your channel.
John Highland - Hi John, Thankyou for the comment. Definitely will be helpful at helping folks realise the reality of boat owning. I do cover some safety aspects as they arise in the videos and have done a “small boat safety equipment” video. I will look at doing any more I can on the subject. Great comment. 👍🏻🎣🛥🐟
Followed you for a long time , this was by far the most enjoyable and most informative vid you have done. IAt 70 years old i suffer with motion sickness so have very rarely gone out on a boat , so I fish from the shore or rocks, but I thoroughly enjoy your boating exploits, I love the fact that Jamers gets to get out with you, and is so knowledgeable .
I love being able to spend my time out on the boat with James and the rest fo the family. It is such a joy. 😊
there is a Japanese medication that is specifically designed for boat sickness. maybe give that a try? ive had that and it works great.
One thing I would like to add is. The cost of an experienced skipper. John's experience is there for all to see and this shows in his fishing. Don't be fooled thinking you can buy a boat with all the toys and catch like him, this takes years to learn. Spend a good amount going out with top class skippers like Skeggy in Lymington and see if it's for you and learn how to fish, anchor, set up a drift and so on. Great video.
I second this comment
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Ivon Coles - I hope this comes across in many of my videos. It is the asking questions, learning from others and sharing information that will help us all to build our knowledge and ultimately catch more fish. 👍🏻😉🎣🐟🐟
I have outfished many a twat in their fancy "bass boats" and center consoles out of my tin jon boat.
Fantastic video once again John.Here in Australia there's so many boats that are garden gnomes because owners weren't honest with themselves answering these basic questions and simply don't have time to take them out,can't afford to take it out or simply have lost interest. You very rarely if ever get your money back when selling a boat to upgrade or simply go boatless too.
Some more ongoing costs are boat drivers licence,trailer registration, boat registration,insurance etc.
My Little aluminium 14ft pictured in my avatar i bought because it ticked all the right boxes for me listed below that others may find helpful.
My budget was $15,000 aud for a brand new boat/trailet package.
I wanted a fishing boat to use in rivers,estuaries.
I wanted it to be legally towed by a small 4cyl car.
I wanted a 14ft runabout fwd steer.
I wanted a bare aluminium boat.
I wanted it to fit in the garage.
I wanted it to be a 2 stroke
30-40hp yamaha.
I made sure i could afford the rego,insurance and ALL ongoing costs BEFORE committing to buying.I use mine as much as possible (Weekly if i can ) and love every minute of it.
Other ongoing costs on a trailer boat is fuel for both tow vehicle and boat.
Fabian Sosa - Excellent comment mate. That will be great for people reading the comments. 👍🏻🛥
Brilliant video, thanks for taking the time to put it together.
Thanks very much. I’m glad you found it useful 👍🏻
Great video John --always👍👍👍
Romas fisherman - Thanks mate. 👍🏻🎣
Hi John. I discovered your channel a few weeks back and I absolutely love it! There are so many values that children these days can be introduced to just by watching your videos (instead of wasting their brains on social media and other "millennial" habits). I have never been out on a boat (other than ferry) and I was thinking about getting one with a friend. If anything, your video helped me decide FOR the boat instead of against one. The reason being that the cost, albeit dear and recurring, can be justified if you think about a 2 week holiday in Spain or anywhere else, where you would make 5 grand disappear without any difficulty. For me, and many of your viewers I am sure, that is a no-brainer. I would much rather choose to go with the boat and spend time in the UK (even with the weather as it is). Anyway, you are awesome!
Will you be able to do a video on a step-by-step day out, from the moment you get on your boat until you return from fishing? You may have one already but I could not find it on your list of videos. I am not worried about owning the boat as much as I am worried about not being able to cope with all the sea rules that come with a day out beacons/buoys, sonar, GPS usage, so on...
Thank you for another brilliant video and for spending a lot of time and effort to make them!!!
Cheers
Daniel
- Thank you Daniel. I am really glad that you have decided ( as we did ) that the effort and cost is worth it. I have done several videos covering different aspects that are either on this channel or The FishLocker Workshop. 👍
@@TheFishLocker Thanks John! Managed to find most of them. Really appreciate all your effort!
Really sound advice John. in my experience getting the absolute best engine you can afford as part of a any boat package definitely pays dividends. Nothing worse than a temperamental engine when you are at sea, and I say that from a bad experience in my first secondhand boat purchase. The only minor bit of kit not mentioned is a pair of decent baffles and a hosepipe to give the engine a regular freshwater flushing whenever possible. All the best and tight lines!
Gareth Grimshaw - That is a great additional extra mate. Definitely worth a mention. 👍🏻🛥😉
Good advice there mate. I've spent a small fortune on boats but I'm out fishing every chance I get so no regrets. Once you've spent the money you gotta make the time to fish.
Love your passion for every thing fishing. tight lines!
Thank you so much. I am glad you found it helpful 👍🏻 I hope you have a lot of success on your future trips 🎣✅
Thanks for uploading this, I'm thinking of buying a small fishing boat and this advice is really helpful.
It is my pleasure. 😊
Wow John...that should have frightened most people off. Now you’ve done the vlog for small boat owners...can you do one for boat owners who are over six feet tall😉⛵️👍
- Haha. Clever. 😊
I got a lump sum..
I went to the Boat Show...Bought a fully loaded Warrior 175.
The wife found out how much I spent..She gave me some Lump..
Lol nice boat warrior 175, i bet she didnt come out with the famous line its the boat or me 😂
neil hellens - Haha. At least you’ll have somewhere comfortable to live whilst she calms down. 🤣
Great insight into boat ownership. Cheers John, great video.
- Any time mate, I hope this helps folks out. 😊
M8, what a great video, I was thinking to share a small fishing boat like the one you own, but I didn’t have much information about it, and you made the right video that I am sure that everyone is happy to see it and get this value information thank you very much for your time spent for us and for sharing this information well done m8.
kanchour16 - It is no problem at all. If it has helped folks out then it has been worth making. Hopefully it helps prevent people from having any nasty surprises. 😉🤞🏻👍🏻🛥
I think the sales reps from Evinrude may have something to say about your 4/2 stroke comparison ;) Running my 20ft boat, 90HP engine, pontoon berth, for a year costs me around 3 grand. Or in other words the most expensive "free" fish you'll ever find. It's only money I'd be pissing up a wall otherwise so wouldn't change it for anything.
IOM Fishing - I absolutely agree with your analogy. I don’t drink, smoke or gamble. My vice and my expense is fishing. 😉👍🏻🎣🛥
Great advice! Always had smaller boats til I went 1/2 with a good friend on a bigger safer faster boat.
Love my 115 evinrude. Direct injection 2 stroke. Very fuel efficient and reliable. Old Yamaha 4 stroke was also very reliable but heavier. I thinks it was slower and less efficient just due to the weight savings but to be honest I didn’t keep accurate fuel usage.
This was an eye opener. I have wanted a boat for years. Something like a cheap cabin cruiser, but after this video I will have to think twice, Such a shame as it's my dream to get on the water.
- I hope that this video helps to prevent anyone getting any nasty surprises.
Like a famous guy once said.. tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.. Start small!!
Great advice as always John!
I hope it has been helpful for people. 😊
Hi John. Thank you for sharing . I find your videos are always interesting informative and helpful. Take care and stay safe FL family.
- It is my pleasure. I hope the videos help folks out. 😊
here in NZ ,I came across a boat named"she got the House". Had to smile.
- Haha. Who is the winner in that argument?
Shame about the sink hole lol, Oh I do like to be beside the seaside ......
Great advice! I would imagine it's more personal preference on Aluminum vs. Fiberglass, but I always thought aluminum was louder in the water, but less maintenance. And being lighter, might be a better choice for a smaller boat, especially if there are trailering weight concerns. I still prefer fiberglass, myself, but there are a lot of pros and cons to both. Your thoughts?
- I'm with you, I prefer fibreglass up to a certain size.
I wasn't going to watch this video,as I do not own a boat .BUT after watching it,
It has gave me a more clear understanding as I have been pondering about it .
I myself will be getting a sib or kayak next year .. sound advice from John as always..
I definitely need to come Fishing with you John..well done on a cracking video again..
saltwater lure fishing - Thankyou very much mate. Yes this video isn’t just for boat owners, it may help people decide that boats are definitely not for them. I know a lot of folks who do amazing things with SIB’s and kayaks. All the best mate. Tight lines. 😉👍🏻🎣🐟
It's good to see you covering the pro's/con's of owning a boat. As you mentioned, it's not just the initial outlay of the cost of the boat, but also the ongoing costs of keeping it and running it each year. Advice I would offer someone buying their first boat would be to take a navigation & seamanship course before you set sail.
Thanks for another great vid John.
PatBot - That is very true mate, I do mention the courses in my “Small boat safety” video. They are a great foundation of knowledge for any boat user. 👍🏻😉🛥
we have a boat and use it all the time we can despite living in Western Canada where the lakes are frozen ~6mths of the year. Your advise John is great but you missed a large cost........all the fishing tackle :) cheers
Malcolm Bennett - Haha. I did consider that Malcolm but wasn’t prepared to put a value on it incase my wife was watching 😉👍🏻🎣😬
@@TheFishLocker I enjoy fishing, playing guitar and cars..........never add up the bills and never ever show them :)
Top job, really nice channel. If anything you’ve underplayed the expense of running a boat, geography also plays a part especially when pontoon or marina mooring. Your £1000 six month pontoon mooring turns into an easy £3500 for a 17 ft boat in the Solent, particularly in Lymington. I’m very hands on with my Whaler, doing virtually all maintenance. Running and mooring costs still average about 5k a year so it’s not for maggot skinners. On the positive side it can be truly magical to have these life affirming moments possible on a boat fishing. You’ve also got an easy method of body disposal if she kicks up too much about the cost.
Mark Richard Hall - 🤣🤫
Hey fella very honest view to a boat owners costings thanks for the knowledge 👍🏻🇬🇧
Mark Kyte - My pleasure Mark. I hope it helps folks out. 😊👍🏻🛥
I bought a SIB a RIB an electric outboard & battery, 2 Fishing kayaks, fish finders, GPS, a wet suit + dry suit , a floatation suit, life jackets, a ton of railblaza stuff along with 2 Go Pro's for a fraction of the cost of a boat, I don't regret it, I use my Kayak's twice a week.. and my RIB is perfect for inshore fishing.. But your right John... if you can't justify the cost (I couldn't) especially the running costs, mooring, insurance etc.. etc... I would highly recommend to anyone, to look at all the alternatives. in my opinion nothing compares to fishing from a Kayak, it's also not for everyone obviously, but perfect for myself. Kayaking gives you Popeye's arms Lol... I just need a pipe and some spinach.. ach ach.. ach... ach. Great video very useful and informative.. keep it up John your channel is excellent mate.
VR_GAMERS - Excellent comment mate. Kayaks perfectly fit the bill for some anglers. The information you gave will be great for them reading. One thing I will add is possibly some older anglers may find the physicality of kayaking too much. So boating may be more for them on those grounds. 😊👍🏻🛥🎣
Somebody once said that the definition of a boat is a small depression in the water into which you constantly throw money.
Ive also heard it said that 'boat' stands for "bring out another thousand"
love it :):)
- That is often very true
Better than owning a boat is having a friend who owns a boat!
- YES!!!
Excellent, quite comprehensive. Thanks
- My pleasure, I hope it helps
Absolutely bang on the nail. Tow bars, boards, locks are all of the things we overlook. We'll done mate, solid advice.
It is when people forget these things that unpleasant surprises happen. I hope the video helps folks out. 😊
@@TheFishLocker It's a good guide, honest too which is super important.
I have my eye on a boat the same as yours. What speed does it do. Would you recommend the 520
- Normal cruising speed with me and all my kit is 14-16 knots. But I most often sit at 12 knots for economy.
@@TheFishLocker ii have just bought a new orkney 16 plus thay plain very well new hull disighn 18mph with 20 hours outboard tiller just retired and love it keep up the good work
The best boat is a friends boat!!
CARRINGTON GROUP - Haha. A rich friends boat is even better. 😉👍🏻🎣😆🛥
Hi John, I was contemplating myself to justify the cost of owning one vs charter trips. But kids won't be able to go and explore the sea, fishing at sea and the travelling which will cost a bit but he ho we only live once. Let's live to the fullest.thank you John. I enjoy all the videos that you created and thank you for taking the time to entertain, educate and guide us all here.
- That is it Kris, it isn't always easy and it is a big responsibility but I wanted my children to have access to the sea and a boat during their childhoods and it is a decision I have not regretted once. 😊
Amazing video thank you for sharing your thoughts. I thought about buying a boat a few months back but weighted some hidden costs and bought a fishing kayak instead. Like you said, practicality is key and the kayak suited.
- Absolutely. Is it suited to you and can you justify it. Those are the main things. I hope this video helps folks out and prevents people from any nasty expensive surprises. :)
Take note all you future boat owners. If you do not follow this man's advice you will end up buying a hole in the water into which you will be required to throw all your money. So take note and heed his advice you have been warned.
Stuart Allen - Haha. Thankyou Stuart. 👍🏻😉🛥🎣
Here’s my help in buying a boat - if it flies, fucks or floats, rent it
- I have heard that before.
this is the single greatest video on the internet
I just hope it helps people out.
So true, I recently bought a little 13ft orkney cheap to leave on the beach for messing about in the bay.
One thing leads to another and its now fully equipped with all safety equipment, vhf and fishfinder on a trailer 😂
Better safe than sorry.
an old saying " its not the elephant its the hay "
- That is a very apt saying Ray.
How do you make a small fortune with a boat?
Start with a large one!
- Haha. Absolutely!!
Really appreciate this one this is why you in my opinion are top of the utube fishing channels is the variety of content really excellent John videos for everyone thanks mate
gavin mcnamara - Thankyou very much Gavin. I am just glad if we can help. 😊👍🏻🎣🛥
Brilliant video John. Excellent advice. A lot of people don’t think of all the additional costs and then get fed up with it very quickly and move on to something else instead of doing a proper costing! Think this will be very good advice for those wanting to buy a boat.
Thanks buddy. Very informative. Graham
Graham Allen - Thankyou Graham. That was the plan when making this. Hopefully it will prevent any nasty surprises for folks thinking of getting a boat. It’s not all sunshine and big fish. 😉🎣🛥
The Fish Locker 👍🎣👍🎣
The definition of a boat is..... a hole in the water that you chuck money into......... but they are worth every penny
- I agree. 😊
The 2 best days you'll ever have owning a boat are the day you buy it and the day you sell it 🤦🏻♂️
Daddy Paddy - Haha. I think I would consider those the worst. The sting of parting with the money would be fresh and then saying goodbye would be bitter. 😆🛥😔
@@TheFishLocker sorry buddy just my twisted sense of humor 🤦🏻♂️, I served just shy of 9 years as D class helmsman on the Minehead lifeboat crew and part of our service was to give free safety/equipment checks to new boat owners etc etc and it was a running joke amoungst the fine Muppets I served with! Love your content mate. Keep it up yeah 👍
Great video with good advice for people starting out. Remember all the additional costs with boating. I have my Orkney on the trailer on drive in winter and on the pontoon for summer months this way I know its safe in winter and ready to use if the sun ever comes out.{Scotland}.
Donald woods - Smart thinking Donald. I do pretty much the same. 😉👍🏻🛥
Hi John,you know I've become hooked on your channel "terrible dad pun". I have my mates watching your videos too now. We all agree that you should have your own fishing show on t.v.,you're a pleasure to listen to and knowledgeable without being a know it all. I have a refinn 6m with a mercury 75 hp and am busy getting everything sorted for relaunch "it's on a trailer and hasn't moved in two years". I haven't been out for a long time as I suffered a horrific work injury and had my whole right leg completely crushed whilst loading a boat in Denmark,this boat was a bit bigger with a 1200 tonne crane aboard. It is proving costly to get my trailer back up to spec but by the time lockdown is over it will be ready. You have given me the drive and the fire in my belly to get back out to sea. Thank you from the bottom of my heart John ,you are an inspiration.
P.S. it might have taken 2 years but I will be back on the water soon,I have no doubt it will be an emotional moment as I have missed being at sea,I think it is in some people's blood to be a mariner. 👍🏴❤️
- As the road gets harder, every step becomes more of a victory. Good luck and tight lines to you John. 😊
You just turned me off buying a boat mate, ill just buy a kayak 😫😫😫
MrEphi123 - Haha. Sorry mate. Just being honest. Hopefully it’s helped prevent some folks making expensive mistakes. 😉👍🏻🛥
Hooked - I was just having this conversation with a good friend of mine who is a very good kayak angler. If that suits your fishing needs. Go for it. 👍🏻🎣😉🐟
MrEphi123
It's a case of horses for courses. There's no better or worse just do what suits you best.
What a great informative video, well presented. Many thanks jv
John Van Boolen - My pleasure John. All the best. 👍🏻🎣🛥
Fantastic video, really useful information, thank you so much for this.
venturer1005 - No problem at all, hopefully this well help folks out and maybe prevent any nasty surprises. 😊🛥👍🏻
Thanks for this video. Just what I was looking for.
Orbital Tube - Glad I could help mate. 👍🏻🎣
Good video and very true, it's not alway's easy but generally always worth the effort to make it work.
MrJerryheffer - In my opinion for our situation it has been one of the greatest joys of my life. And has given me so many happy memories with my kids. 😊💙🛥🎣
Brilliant information and advice. Thank you. I’m seriously looking at buying a small boat, trailer and outboard motor and feel more confident now having listened viewed the video.
My pleasure Steve. Have you seen the other videos I’ve done of buying a small boat?
@@TheFishLocker
No not yet but I’ll definitely be having a look.
Thank you 👍
I appreciate your honesty.
- That is how we make all of our videos. Simple and honest content.
That’s Awesome advice John Thanks 🙏 Blessings from Hartlepool
- No worries mate. Hopefully this helps folks out. ;)
wheel bearings ,,sea water corrodes ,,fishing gear tackle boxes,,,parking ,,you covered it well and very informative too ,,,subscribed ,,,,
ray lawson - Thank you Ray. I hope you enjoy the rest of our videos. 😊👍🏻🎣
Another useful video John, a big bank balance and an understanding wife....!.....
David Booth - A very VERY understanding wife. 😆🛥🎣
Fantastic and informative. Very Helpful video.
- It is my pleasure. I hope it helps folks out. 👍
Great information, good honest down to earth telling it as it is. brilliant.
That is how I try to make all of my videos. Simple, honest and no B/S. 😊
Really helpful video. Was looking at buying a small boat but have ( had) no idea of all the hiden cost , so many thanks 👍
- It is my pleasure Gav, it is the reason I made this video. 😊
A well rounded dissection mate.
Phil Mackenzie - Thanks Phil. 👍🏻🎣
Only thing I can think of that you didn't mention and I haven't yet seen in the comments is that if you are a salt water fisherman, you will have to run to the carwash or wash it at home after every trip, so that your trailer doesn't rust out. Kind of common sense, but you wouldn't believe how many boats I seen out here where the axels and hubs are rusted away due to people not washing the saltwater off their trailers.
You mentioned electronics, but to specify, lighting is very important. Not sure about your side of the pond, but in the states having functioning lights is a must, and honestly a life saver. Seen people get plowed right into at night, and also seen people break down out in the middle of no where in the middle of the night with no lights to help anyone even know they were stuck out there. Here you are required to have a red light and a green light, one on the front and one on the back.
Another expense is maps of the waterways. This is particularly helpful in the bays, as it helps navigate the sandbars and the reefs. Definitely a must have. I suppose the GPS might offer that information these days, but I've never owned one. We always used an Atlas til we became familiar with the areas and could navigate by memory.
Also, I'd like to add that in my experience, relatively common maintenance expenses, particularly on used boats, would be steering cable and gear box replacements.
Thief In The Night - Great comment filled with useful information. Thankyou very much. 👍🏻🛥😉
You'll need a basic tool kit & essential spares, spark plug manual pull start rope etc, other than that you gave a comprehensive account of what's involved in owning a small boat. I wish I had seen this before getting mine, I used it a lot in the first season, not so much in the second, pumped a fortune into it over the next few years & haven't touched it since. This is a brilliant & informative video, thanks for posting it. If you're toying with the idea of buying a boat, think long & hard first.
- I hope this video helps folks out. 😊