I guess they leaned into WH40k Adeptus Mechanicus techpriests for inspiration with the whole religion angle they're taking with BoS. Feels weird but lets see how far they take it. Also, religion/cults have always been a big part of Fallout games - Children of the Cathedral from FO1 for example. Vault 4 also confirmed at 19:04, probably the one which the overdose ghoul came from initially (since it's the same actor).
Cults have yes, religion...well I'll grant there are several different religious factions in fallout 1, of particular note The Followers of the Apocalypse, but I don't remember any of them making it to fallout 2, or bethesda expanding on any of them in 3/4. There are a couple of mentions in New Vegas iirc, from Arcade Gannon, but that's it... So that makes 3 total, Children of the Atom, Children of the Cathedral, and Followers of the Apocalypse, one appears only in Fallout 1, with brief mention in New Vegas, one only appears in Fallout 1, and the last is Bethesda's contribution, which appears only in Fallout 3 and 4. That being said, the Brotherhood of Steel were never presented in a religious light the way these three are. The BoS were presented in a sort of Arthurian way, with knights of the round table iconography and titles. But despite this there was never a quest for the Holy Grail (give or take the Monty Python references :P), so I have to ask why the explicitly religious iconography in the show :/
@@quantumapprentice8120 Agreed 100%, knightly order of high-tech warriors was exactly how they were presented initially and how Interplay/Black Isle intended to portray them and how most players viewed the original BoS. Maybe Nolan took the bad ending for BoS in FO1 as his inspiration?? "The Brotherhood of Steel, under new leadership after the death of Rhombus, becomes an overzealous, techno-religious dictatorship. In 20 years, the Steel Plague devastates the newly formed New California Republic, and starts a Dark Age that could last a thousand years." Just joking, of course. The candles, censers, priests and what not give off an entirely different vibe than the militaristic castes of Knights, Paladins, Scribes and Elders and it feels damn awkward. I hope they give at least some sort of an explanation for it, but I doubt it's salvageable if they go all in on it.
I don't recall this detail specifically, but yeah that sounds like something Fallout 3 and 4 would have expanded on, and then there's the Fallout 1 image in the intro movie which I played in the video.
Is the airship a sister ship of the Prydwen? Btw jetpacks have been in Fallout for decades so the reason the power armour flies is because it's been doing it for many years in the games! Have you not actually played the games? Why would someone who knows little about Fallout review it?
If by "decades" you mean less than 10 years, since Fallout 4 was released in 2015 and was the first of two games (the other being Fallout 76) to have jet packs natively, then sure. But the real problem I had was _that_landing_was_ *LAAAAAAAAME*!
I didn't want to spam your Discord with my Fallout project, so I'd rather mention it here. If you ever find the time to branch off to another project, I'd be more than happy to have your help on my mod project. At this point, I have a friend of mine trying to help with the scripting, but he doesn't have as much time to do stuff like this as I do so it's really just me making all the maps, writing all the dialogue, and also scripting the majority of the game lol I know I can do it all myself but any outside help would be very welcomed. Just throwing it out there if you want to play a role in making this game! I think this will be a great overhaul mod when it's done. The story will be very lore-friendly, as I have a great deal of Fallout knowledge and haven't touched grass in a while lmao
Don't feel awkward posting in discord, that's why I have a fallout channel :) I wouldn't mind helping scripting for you, but part of the reason I joined MR is so I could actually learn all the details of scripting to help make videos about it, and I'm still learning right now. Personally, I wouldn't worry about being lore friendly so much, and just make something that's fun to play. So many modders want to make something that just fits in the Fallout universe, it kind of feels like a limitation that just isn't necessary, imo. That being said, whatever it ends up being, just make sure its something you want to make :)
@@quantumapprentice8120 Hell yea, I appreciate it, dude! And for sure, this project is definitely something I want to make. I love Fallout and would love to make my own Fallout game.
I hope this tv series have at least some reasonable point of views that can this series watchable hopefully . The thing is on religions things on brotherhood of the steel that in Fallout 1 while you accepted by Brother of The Steel after you give holotape to the guard that you found in GLOW after a while you talk with their leader High Elder ? i think it's rank was and name is John Maxson and if i remember right there was some kind of can't say religious but signs that looks like some religous environment in it like paladins knights initiate scribes elders those kinds of terms feels like religious terms but Brotherhood of The Steel worships technology mostly soo the plot might be focus on that hopefully . And for other religous things might be on show i hope they ain't implement those kinds of things too much cause Fallout ain't a religously described story in it , the world people once lived in destroyed soo there is no hope living in it soo with the world they ain't have any hope in it also has no soo much religious things in it also . Cause if there is no hope the effects on religion becomes less important . I strongly agree on Quantum's opinion on Power armor on this trailer. , seems that they totally misunderstand what actually power armor is , i hope that in their upcoming episodes they change these things . On Vault thingy , actually Tim Cain mentions that in his videos that , the vaults actually not a way to prevent humans from upcoming destruction and try to recolonize humanity with those people once lived in those vaults , even he once mentioned that he had a idea that the people coming out from vaults realize that , the world is unhabitable soo they decide to built a spaceship and try to live in another planet ? actually that might be interested but this tv series never mentions those kinds of things i think :D .
Wow what an essay... Yes, initiates, scribes, knights, paladins, elders, all sound vaguely religious, and yes there is a lot of dialogue where they call each other "brother", but I don't think this was ever intended as a religious order. And, no, they don't worship technology...they hoard it. The premise of the brotherhood was originally to prevent another nuclear apocalypse by securing all technology past a certain level, holding it, and only distributing it to people the brotherhood deemed worthy. Yeah, I like the visuals of the power armor in this show, just...that one landing...could have been so much cooler. Sadly, I don't think Todd Howard or Jonathon Nolan are going to bother listening to Tim Cain's ideas. While the vaults may have originally been intended as a precursor to space travel for the Black Isle Fallouts, probably nobody will pick this up since Bethesda are the ones in control of the franchise now.
I guess they leaned into WH40k Adeptus Mechanicus techpriests for inspiration with the whole religion angle they're taking with BoS. Feels weird but lets see how far they take it. Also, religion/cults have always been a big part of Fallout games - Children of the Cathedral from FO1 for example. Vault 4 also confirmed at 19:04, probably the one which the overdose ghoul came from initially (since it's the same actor).
Cults have yes, religion...well I'll grant there are several different religious factions in fallout 1, of particular note The Followers of the Apocalypse, but I don't remember any of them making it to fallout 2, or bethesda expanding on any of them in 3/4. There are a couple of mentions in New Vegas iirc, from Arcade Gannon, but that's it...
So that makes 3 total, Children of the Atom, Children of the Cathedral, and Followers of the Apocalypse, one appears only in Fallout 1, with brief mention in New Vegas, one only appears in Fallout 1, and the last is Bethesda's contribution, which appears only in Fallout 3 and 4.
That being said, the Brotherhood of Steel were never presented in a religious light the way these three are. The BoS were presented in a sort of Arthurian way, with knights of the round table iconography and titles. But despite this there was never a quest for the Holy Grail (give or take the Monty Python references :P), so I have to ask why the explicitly religious iconography in the show :/
@@quantumapprentice8120 Agreed 100%, knightly order of high-tech warriors was exactly how they were presented initially and how Interplay/Black Isle intended to portray them and how most players viewed the original BoS.
Maybe Nolan took the bad ending for BoS in FO1 as his inspiration??
"The Brotherhood of Steel, under new leadership after the death of Rhombus, becomes an overzealous, techno-religious dictatorship. In 20 years, the Steel Plague devastates the newly formed New California Republic, and starts a Dark Age that could last a thousand years."
Just joking, of course. The candles, censers, priests and what not give off an entirely different vibe than the militaristic castes of Knights, Paladins, Scribes and Elders and it feels damn awkward. I hope they give at least some sort of an explanation for it, but I doubt it's salvageable if they go all in on it.
@@vektorcontrivus4026 maybe they'll just gloss over it, who knows, just a couple days left 'till we find out :)
The United States reformed into 13 commonwealths type deal in 1969
I don't recall this detail specifically, but yeah that sounds like something Fallout 3 and 4 would have expanded on, and then there's the Fallout 1 image in the intro movie which I played in the video.
Is the airship a sister ship of the Prydwen? Btw jetpacks have been in Fallout for decades so the reason the power armour flies is because it's been doing it for many years in the games! Have you not actually played the games? Why would someone who knows little about Fallout review it?
If by "decades" you mean less than 10 years, since Fallout 4 was released in 2015 and was the first of two games (the other being Fallout 76) to have jet packs natively, then sure.
But the real problem I had was _that_landing_was_ *LAAAAAAAAME*!
I didn't want to spam your Discord with my Fallout project, so I'd rather mention it here. If you ever find the time to branch off to another project, I'd be more than happy to have your help on my mod project. At this point, I have a friend of mine trying to help with the scripting, but he doesn't have as much time to do stuff like this as I do so it's really just me making all the maps, writing all the dialogue, and also scripting the majority of the game lol I know I can do it all myself but any outside help would be very welcomed. Just throwing it out there if you want to play a role in making this game! I think this will be a great overhaul mod when it's done. The story will be very lore-friendly, as I have a great deal of Fallout knowledge and haven't touched grass in a while lmao
Don't feel awkward posting in discord, that's why I have a fallout channel :)
I wouldn't mind helping scripting for you, but part of the reason I joined MR is so I could actually learn all the details of scripting to help make videos about it, and I'm still learning right now.
Personally, I wouldn't worry about being lore friendly so much, and just make something that's fun to play. So many modders want to make something that just fits in the Fallout universe, it kind of feels like a limitation that just isn't necessary, imo. That being said, whatever it ends up being, just make sure its something you want to make :)
@@quantumapprentice8120 Hell yea, I appreciate it, dude! And for sure, this project is definitely something I want to make. I love Fallout and would love to make my own Fallout game.
@@quantumapprentice8120 Also, I can't wait to see MR be a playable mod. Would love to add it to the roster of mods I'm going to play
I hope this tv series have at least some reasonable point of views that can this series watchable hopefully . The thing is on religions things on brotherhood of the steel that in Fallout 1 while you accepted by Brother of The Steel after you give holotape to the guard that you found in GLOW after a while you talk with their leader High Elder ? i think it's rank was and name is John Maxson and if i remember right there was some kind of can't say religious but signs that looks like some religous environment in it like paladins knights initiate scribes elders those kinds of terms feels like religious terms but Brotherhood of The Steel worships technology mostly soo the plot might be focus on that hopefully . And for other religous things might be on show i hope they ain't implement those kinds of things too much cause Fallout ain't a religously described story in it , the world people once lived in destroyed soo there is no hope living in it soo with the world they ain't have any hope in it also has no soo much religious things in it also . Cause if there is no hope the effects on religion becomes less important . I strongly agree on Quantum's opinion on Power armor on this trailer. , seems that they totally misunderstand what actually power armor is , i hope that in their upcoming episodes they change these things . On Vault thingy , actually Tim Cain mentions that in his videos that , the vaults actually not a way to prevent humans from upcoming destruction and try to recolonize humanity with those people once lived in those vaults , even he once mentioned that he had a idea that the people coming out from vaults realize that , the world is unhabitable soo they decide to built a spaceship and try to live in another planet ? actually that might be interested but this tv series never mentions those kinds of things i think :D .
Wow what an essay...
Yes, initiates, scribes, knights, paladins, elders, all sound vaguely religious, and yes there is a lot of dialogue where they call each other "brother", but I don't think this was ever intended as a religious order.
And, no, they don't worship technology...they hoard it. The premise of the brotherhood was originally to prevent another nuclear apocalypse by securing all technology past a certain level, holding it, and only distributing it to people the brotherhood deemed worthy.
Yeah, I like the visuals of the power armor in this show, just...that one landing...could have been so much cooler.
Sadly, I don't think Todd Howard or Jonathon Nolan are going to bother listening to Tim Cain's ideas.
While the vaults may have originally been intended as a precursor to space travel for the Black Isle Fallouts, probably nobody will pick this up since Bethesda are the ones in control of the franchise now.