That feeling you get when you find a trashcan full of glass bottles 🍾🍾🍾 EDIT: LMAO thank you for all the likes. This is my first top comment ever and it's insane to see 🤣
@@officialtibby The excavation site at the start has a good 30ish or so, and if you base at Red Rocket/Sanctuary you can literally run back and forth looting them forever. It respawns all loot every time you exit and re-enter the cell. It's kinda cheesy but an option in a pinch if you need them dirty waters for noodle cups.
So. Very. True. Empty bottles equal life. 🤣🤣 One of my first stops is the Speakeasy in Concord. I pillage that place of bottles long before rescuing Preston and the gang.
@@officialtibbyMuch keener on picking up those aluminium cans and anything with fibre optics, copper, screws, gears and adhesive. Glass bottles turn up all over the show. But you don’t get empty bottles when you drink Nuka cola.
Survival mode is the intended way to play Fallout 4. Everything about the game design points to it, and it seems Bethesda removed it as the default difficulty last minute after playtesting to casualize the game for a wider audience at launch. Everyone should try it for a playthrough, it's a completely different game experience and is one of the best survivalcraft game experiences we've ever seen. There's no cooler feeling than building up a really cool base, walking outside and tossing a signal flare, and then having a helicopter land and pick you up to run a mission. The gameplay loopfrom survival mode is insanely satisfying and immersive, and then when you toss on the wild aspects of the Fallout theme it becomes an instant banger. Fallout 4 is one of the most underrated games of all time, and it's largely due to the fact that many people have never played it in survival mode.
They say they did the same with Starfield (such a disappointing game tbh), really hope they stop that trend. Release these games as they are intended and bring the easier mode out later, if at all. Too many games these days offer little to no challenge.
While i tried survival and i like the fact that you deal and recieve more damage i still dislike the settlement system and find it boring. I think the base game should have an option to let settlers build the bases themselves... Sorta like sim settlement mods
@@IIMatt_DII Majority of players dont want challenge, they want a game with a good story mode. That is the best Fallout they got a good story other than that the game is kinda random. When completed the story you dont wanna play it over again.
This sounds great until you inevitably run into major glitches. And without console commands, fast travel, and lots of saves to choose from, you’re going to have a very bad time.
Saving being disabled might be the only reason I won't play Survival. Because we're talking about a Bethesda game. Being able to save often is mandatory. I can't imagine losing hours of progress on a challenging mode like this because of a random crash.
It doesn't crash that often. Besides, just find a bed. You shouldn't be playing for hours without sleeping anyway, as your character will get some severe debuffs while tired. As for beds, look around, there are all sorts of random beds and bedrolls hiding in random spots. If you just get through some challenging mission or got some good loot, find a bed and save.
@@Cyberwar101it also disables the console for debugging, and limits you to 3 save slots if you need to revert something. “Just use a bed” is an asinine response that makes it difficult to take you seriously. One MIGHT be able to argue the console restriction as a challenge but save slot restriction is just unacceptable with how often things glitch
@@Skullhawk13 To be fair if it does get too much or if a bug does happen you can always lower the difficulty to re-enable the console, save, fix the bug, then use the command to re-enable survival mode and boom you are on your way. Abuseable yes but that is up to the player to decide if they want to do it or not. I myself have had to do it cuz a few quests bugged out or i got stuck in terrain. Takes all of maybe 3 minutes and you're back on the survival train.
I only play on survival. It makes new character builds fun to start. Saving is a breeze when you know the locations for beds across the common wealth. Just save at every bed location. And settlements actually have a purpose and besides looking cool.
I got fo4 in april, and started out immediately with a survival save, and I think that experience is a huge part of why fo4 is now one of my favourite games.
Yup, anytime I'm about to shoot something really dangerous at long range like a behemoth or deathclaw, I always lay down a few mines in front of me. That way if my shots don't kill them, I can at least lead them into the mines to finish them off.
Spot on take! The strategic benefit of developing trade routes for added security while out travelling is no joke. I remember the first time I made trade routes in the base game, I strove for efficiency. I made sure all my routes had centrally located hubs, minimizing travel times and overlapping redundancy. It. Was. Beautiful. And then I popped my Survival cherry. Now my trade routes look insane. Overlapping. Long. Redundant. And EVERY Trader from my caravans are dressed in the FINEST formal outfits I can find, all fitted with MAX ballistic weaves, and over-armed with the most overpowered weaponry that an Infinite Ammo Loophole could POSSIBLY provide. That's always the goal now. Because NOW when the game random-rolls some eff-you Yao Gui in the middle of my well-planned hike... I got backup all across the map at all times now. I always laughed when gamers complained about how pointless settlements were in Fallout. "Pointlessly added on" was a common perspective. Not in Survival. That useless brahmin trader might just save you three hours of gameplay!
Been playing survival for years, i have it modified a fair bit, agony is a very good mod i recommend, each illness now has a specific drug to cure it and broken bones/being crippled requires surgery instead of a stim pack. Definitely one of the best mods around.
That’s kinda the point if you couldn’t tell, it’s there because I need the game to be harder. It’s obviously not for everyone. I’m just putting the recommendation out there for those that might be interested.
@@iamjesus8fearme yeesh. So many words to say you’re an ignorant person who just hates immigrants when their existence has no bearing on your actual life or community. In my community, they’ve been a huge plus. In many communities, immigrants are always a plus.
If the next edition of fallout has survival at release it will be exclusively how I play my first run through. I had so much fun on multiple modded runs of survival in 4 before I ever did one without any mods. Completely changed the experience and made the role play even more immersive. If you’re not gonna do chems. You REALLY need to plan for it. If you’re running a sneak sniper, you better have a light automatic sidearm for when you’re rushed by dogs or even mole rats. My personal fav is definitely “Buck Norris” A9 E10, mostly unarmed and heavy use on chems,alcohol, and water so you’re getting huge melee buffs, and you’re carrying little to no ammo
I just started my first survival mode run yesterday and when combined with a mod that makes the lighting nighttime/interiors much more realistic and was shocked to find that Fallout 4 is almost as brutal as Day-Z. After the first few hours I arrived at all the same conclusions that you've covered in this video. I'm at lvl 7 and have an infection but the doctor in Diamond City is effectively out of reach, as I can barely leave Sanctuary. You are spot on in how this mode makes so many existing game mechanics that I don't touch in my lvl 90 character, suddenly extremely relevant. After getting taken out by swarms of bloat flies, I'm thinking that the best shot at getting healed is sticking around Sanctuary until I have the level required to build my own clinic. Leaving Sanctuary for ANY reason or ANY distance now requires planning. With my infection, I have to carry at least 20 units of water just to get through a 12 hour day.
There's a doctor in Covenant and there's also a ghoul doctor on south of Walden Pond,close to a Behemonth and a school bus. You don't need to travel to Diamond City
@@RafaelCavaleirodaHipocrisia Yeah, just go get cured by the Pond Doctor. And die of rads before the Behemoth has time to club ya. Do you happen to sell Health Potions to wounded Brotherhood Scribes with mangled feet? ;-)
Pro tip: Your first unlocks in the perk tree for survival mode should be Scrapper and Chemist. Being able to make your own antibiotics is essential from the very start and scrapper will give you so many more materials to build with!
I have a high level endurance character on survival mode. It’s still really fun, but there are less scary and chaotic moments now. I think mid game is the most fun for survival
I'm usually a big wimp when it comes to choosing difficulty settings, but with the delay to Fallout London I decided to have another go at F4 and chose Very Hard. A few days of playtime later, after a slightly more difficult start, I'm level 120 and nothing is a challenge any more. I decideed to switch to Survival and boy am I glad I did, it's a totally different experience. Having to travel everywhere means you get to know the map for more intimately. I've discovered new areas I hadn't seen in hundreds of hours of play time. The only downside is the frustration when you get the inevitable crashes. It's worth noting that the Institute teleporter is also useful in other modes with fast travel, as it doesn't take any time, compared to fast travel which advances time based on the distance. E.g. if you're just about to fail a settlement defense quest, you can teleport to the Institute and then from there teleport to the settlement.
Highly recommend starting over, the early to mid game on survival is where all the fun is. To avoid crashing on PC, make sure you use RTSS to cap to 60fps, and restart your game every 3 hours. I haven't had a crash in a really long time because I restart my game every 2-3 in game days to flush the memory. Go out, do your mission for 1-2 days, come back home and drop/sort your loot, sleep, maybe go sell some loot/buy ammo for a day, reload the game and repeat.
I'm playing a chem-fiend in my first survival playthrough, and I LOVE the depth it adds to my character. Not only do I have to guzzle water in order to stay hydrated, but I care way more about the debuffs too! It's at the point where every single opportunity I have to take any drugs that remove debuffs present themselves, I do. It makes combat super easy in the moment, but when I run out of chems, I die CONSTANTLY. Love this shit.
It actually blew my mind how much more fun I had in survival mode, almost like its the way you should play it, the no fast travel bit is the most imposing part, but thats because you forget you unlock vertibird flares, and teleportation grenades, which makes them way more nessecery, and flying over Boston shooting things you see is way more immersive
Quick Tip: save manipulation. When you find a bed, but don't want to sleep? Go up to the bed. Press the sleep button, set it for 1 hour. Once you press sleep IMMEDIATELY EXIT IT. You won't actually sleep and you'll see that the game auto saved for you in the corner. Great video btw sorry for *potentially* ruin the saving bit lol
I like the benefits of setting up supply lines between settlements. You will encounter friendly caravans along their route. Not only can they lighten your load, but also back you up in an encounter.
You did a fantastic job of summarizing why survival mode makes the whole game feel complete. I tell anyone who is nervous about starting it that once you get the hang of it anything less then survival feels like it’s just not the same game.
Yess absolutely! Another thing to point out, to which you may have did, is that you also get double xp in survival mode so you will level hp much faster. Due to the show, one of my best friends wanted to get into Fallout 4 and wanted my advice. I wholeheartedly recommended survial mode, even though its his first fallout game ever. Its truly a different game. Its hard as hell in the beginning but once you master it, the journey is so worth it. Honestly, its a similar ethos to FromSoft games, a million props to Bethesda for really pulling that ff. My friend ended up trying survival mode and was getting his butt kicked in the beginning, but im proud to say that he stuck with it and became hooked. If you got the time, definitely try it out, this video does a great job of describing how different the game is but you have to try it for yourself to understand
The limitation of only saving in beds makes the game too incredibly frustrating because of the engine's instability when modded. It's much worse to lose progress to a game crash than it is to lose progress to my own mistakes. I always have to mod out that particular feature.
This video felt like I was in the position of everyone ive told about fallout survival, and it being the true way to play the game 😅 it really does change the whole feel of the game, im currently playing New Vegas again on "Hardcore mode" and its so easy because I've been through the worst fallout has to offer haha
Fast travel does take up in game hours so if you fast travel to or from a far away place (like Sanctuary) it is night time which means the shops are closed. For this reason my main base is always in Oberland Station because it is the closest settlement to downtown that has a decent amount of space. Although in survival mode Hangman’s Alley is the undisputed goat, despite it’s real lack of space.
Home Plate in Diamond City is my player home, but I use a mod to link all of the workbenches in the market to the workshop. But mods aside, Hangman's Alley absolutely is the best, especially after unlocking the Institute teleporter.
Hangmans alley is only good for a trading FoB imo, the random encounter spawn right next to it is annoying, and you can place a fast travel mat outside the orange door towards Diamond City to have your Vertibird land right on the road outside the stadium for trading. Red Rocket is the GOAT base. Access to Sanctuary for 750+ purified water/day and Abernathy for Vegetable Starch/Razorgrain, nothing beats Red Rocket when you have Vertibirds.
@@Aliothalewith Hangman’s Ally as home base you don’t need veritbird rides to make it a viable home base in survival mode. Even for some long distance destinations you can simply use the nearby river for transportation (with the aqua girl/boy perk of course). Thanks for the tip about choosing Diamond City as a vertibird landing spot to avoid that random encounter though (although I got a two shot laser rifle off one of those encounters).
@@Aliothale random encounters can be super useful though. Meeting the legendary traders or some easy victims. Granted, as soon as mechanist or dust devil robots spawn it is a shit show. But, that random encounter crossroads is easily circumvented. Just don't exit through the western gate. Use the eastern gate, turn right towards DC, and next crossroad you turn right again, passing by the spawn point at a reasonable distance. And to get to Hangman's, just use the institute teleporter to get inside the institute, pop back out and walk across the bridge. 🤷🏼♂️ The size of the settlement is sufficient as well. Just need one pump and 2 farmers, tops. Plus beds of course and maybe a trader and/or doctor.
Great!! One of the best videos explaining the greatness of survival in fo4. You have a new subscriber. New Fallout games will always have to cater to the majority that only wants to run around in power armor guns blazing with almost infinite carry weight and ammo weighing 0, but hopefully we get a survival mode like this in the future too. I will show this video to people that I think are ready for survival mode. Once you go survival there's no going back 👍
Great analysis, I agree with you! I just wish we were affected by the weather in survival too. But honestly I think I didn't ACTUALLY play Fallout 4 until I played survival!
Just finished a survival run with no armour, no dog, no companions, no power armour. Died a few times. Got to level 150. completed all dlc's. I have just started a new survival run. Leather armour only, no dog or companions. Just finished level 50 no deaths so far. To make the game harder, I don't put any points into strength or intelligence. Therefore, I have to buy or find weapon and armour mods. No gun nut or armour workshop. Overseers guardian is my primary weapon and the .308 pipe rifle found in last house in concord upstairs. Buy the silencer from diner eventually modding to .50 cal when available from vendors. Leather armour is shadowed and pocketed. Leather chest piece is from diamond city vendor as it gives more time for chems to work. I have hot keyed psycho/jet and quantum cola. Don't be afraid to do drugs and buy addictol. Noodle cup is my go to meal for food and drink at same time. Helps with carry weight. Also mirelerk eggs only weight 0.1 when cooked with dirty water. Save whenever a bed is near is case game locks up, which it does occasionally. I play with PS4 no mods. Survival mode is brilliant for strategy. To get to Nigil in the glowing sea, I took rad x, glowing blood pack, cooked bloatfly, cooked mutant hound and stealth boys. No hazmat suit or power armour. Love the challenge
Was wondering how do you help settlements without fast travel ? And I have come to dislike being told one needs help and one is being attacked. If I even see it up on the corner
@@Kevin-ti3rz In survival, settlements are not a priority. I do any missions related to them but don't really care if they get attacked. Sometimes they win or lose without my help. However, in my own settlement in Hangman's Alley, as it is more central in the game, I put all my valueable components, screws, glue etc in a box, not in the workshop and get them when needed because if your main settlement gets attack and they lose, the game steals the components from the workshop. It has happened to me a few times when I couldn't get back in time. Very annoying. Building settlements is better when you can fast travel.
@@Kevin-ti3rz you can trigger the settlement raids just by flying over in a vertibird, you don't actually have to land. I'll typically fly to the settlement, provide fire support from the air, then fly home. Saves me the cost of a second vertibird grenade.
This is the first video of yours I've ever seen. I'll tell you right now that if you stick to this path it will pay dividends! I've never played Fallout on Survival period. I've always been a played that enjoyed the story first and foremost. Then the settlement building and power fantasy that Bethsda really gets right. Listening to you describe the Survival aspects so incredibly vividly has put a Survival playthrough right at the top of my list for my next game to play. Really well made and thoughtful script! Job well done! (Edit: subscribed - I look forward to more from you!)
Here are some mods from the Nexus that help with some of the worst annoyances of Survival Mode while maintaining the challenge and immersion. Gimme My Bottle- consuming bottled water or Nuka Cola returns an empty bottle to your inventory. Salvage Beacons- gain the ability to craft salvage beacons and a beacon control station (which requires power and an assigned settler). Overloaded? Drop all your excess loot into a container, add a beacon, and the closest settlement with a control station will send a team to recover the cache, adding it to the settlements workbench. Personal APC and The Red Wave- these two both provide a vehicle that acts as a limited player home while returning limited fast travel. The APC can be found outside of Concord, the Red Wave is a small fishing trawler you can obtain in Far Harbor. Both need the right perks and materials to repair them, must be fueled to move them (fusion cores for the APC, oil for the Wave), and can only move between about a dozen already discovered locations. But they can ease travel times in a realistic way. This last one is a bit of a stretch, but I won't do survival without it- Smokeable Cigarettes and Cigars. It turns cigarettes and cigars into an Aid item and lets you break down packs, cartons, and boxes to get more. Smoking gives a trivial buff, is highly addictive, and withdrawal penalties are fairly severe (although treating nicotine withdrawal is easy- just light another). So why use it? Because in Survival Mode, it creates a single Quicksave slot that is overwitten everytime you light up. About to hit the Super Mutants at Revere and dreading having to replay the last 2 hours if it goes badly? Just finished scrapping your new settlement and don't want to have to redo it? Take a quick smoke break and carry on.
I love survival mode so much. I’m lvl 40 right now and this is my 5th Fallout 4 play through. I always played it on very hard before this. I think anyone who mods the game too much is missing the point. Just play vanilla and it will not crash, I promise you. It’s crashed on me only ONCE in my whole survival playthrough. Save often because tiredness is gonna give you a debuff anyway.
the survival mode changes this into a completely different game my first play through the world felt empty lifeless just checking checking off missions the mechanics get changed a bit then boom you have the best survival game ever made makes it feel super intense doing anything because there is high level risk makes some fights super terifying and stressfull its so intense and fun thank you for making this video you worded everything and explained it for everyone so well this is probably the best game ever made now because of this mode its so much fun dude
WOW 😳 I've only ever played F4 on the setting below hardest, and since resuming playing with the TV show I'm now on V hard, which I am finding ... Challenging at times. But this vid makes me want to start a new play through on survival. Great job 👌🏻
Playing on survival in VR is wild. I’m playing as a sniper with a hunting rifle, but I have a sawed-off in my back pocket that I’ll line up in VATS and blow heads off like crazy. VATS functions like bullet time in VR, but it also lets you move in VATS. You can either use AP to dodge an attack or use it to blow someone’s head off. It’s so fucking awesome.
A very detailed description of the Survival mode. You really covered everything and I couldn’t agree less with you: survival mode is the best. I would’ve missed a lot of fun if I haven’t tried it
Hey dude! Love the video. Glad to find a small channel to sub. Fallout 4 Survival mode is such a fun challenge. Personally, I only made it about level 20/Confront Kellog before I put it down, simply because of the constant debuff from healing items like Radaway, etc. It was fantastic, but sooner or later, it was annoying using more resources than what I collect venturing out from my safe settlements into the wild. Still fun though!
An incredible overview of Survival! This mode has ruined me on Fallout 4 gameplay. I can’t play it any other way now because, as you stated, once you play in this mode, regular gameplay seems waaaay to easy. Even on very hard mode. I love this game and Survival mode has only increased my enjoyment.
Survival mode with sim settlements is so cool. The start is rough, but once you get to around lvl 14-16 it really starts. Building travel routes via settlements you build up is incredible especially with sim settlements watching your towns build up. Saverettes is also a good mod as it limits your saves but helps you not lose hours to an unlucky trap or fatman
Survival is definitely the best part of Fallout 4. Would be interested in your take on the perk progression. I started one with 1 END, INT, CHR that felt really strong out of the gate
My least favorite thing about survival is the insta kill molotovs enemies will spawn in front of them in a single frame. Like they couldn’t have added an animation of them lighting the cocktail at least 😅
Damn good explanation of survival mode mate👌 I've been doing survival playthrough with minutemen and modded to stay lore freindly. Subscribed,Can't wait for more👍
I loved survival. I just 100%'d the games achievements with it. So cool. The no save unless you sleep is such an easy way to turn people off, though. That made my brother drop it back down to very hard immediately because of that. Oh well
I basically finished the game on the older survival mode, it was tons of fun. The slow healing on stimpaks was cool. Playing the dlc on new survival was a bit jarring, especially because that Island in the south was my main home & I had to walk in power armor or swim across the water to get back & forth until i built a vertibird pad there
Informative, interesting, I thoughtful, thoroughly enjoyed the video. I am inspired to try survival mode because of the ideas presented here, kudos to the writers taking gaming to the next level.
My number one thing against survival mode is how often the game crashes for no reason (I have zero mods and play with all updates). At least once every session I’m thrown out of the game due to unexpected error losing my progress. Therefore I need to quick save often. I want to try out survival mode but I don’t think I’d enjoy it due to this reason. One thing is if you die because of yourself, it’s another when it’s due to poor programming.
Im just playing my first survival playthrough and my second playthrought because this game didnt worked for me for years!! You wrote it down beatifuly! And with mods this game looks and plays the way you like, what makes it another level better. Just the saves in survival, even if i like it, is just too much tense when Im afraid to open exit doors just to loose several hours of gameplay!!!
To me the hunger, thirst, and disease chance are about 2x too much, especially it feels weird since I change my timescale to 8, something felt off to me. But I did do a full playthrough on survival with the gopher mod for quicksave and despite the intense thirst rates etc, survival was a good mode for sure. Fun experience.
I would love survival if everytime I tried a survival playthrough, at level 30+ my game didn’t start crashing randomly when I go into VATS. Losing hours of playtime over and over and over ended with me sticking to very hard playthroughs
this happened to me try not to store stuff randomly everywhere what i did i just unchecked every mission on the pip boy and it ran like butter again not sure what causes it for everyone though because alot of people use mods mght experience more issues when i get it for pc as well
I use mods to make it even more realistic. I wish they'd either officially updated Survival to make it even more realistic, or add a new Realism mode. Either way I hope Fallout 5 gets less RPG-esque and more immersive survival (sure, a perk might add damage to melee weapons, that makes sense, but you cannot increase damage of firearms by leveling up or getting perks or whatever). At least I want them to give us this as an option.
If the game werent so unstable, I could really appreciate the "only saves when you sleep" aspect. But I'm more likely to have the game crash rather than die in combat, and losing progress because the game crashed it WAAAAYYYY more infuriating.
I like the idea of survival mode, especially with how severe the damage output is. I just can't fathom not saving in a game riddled with bugs and crashes, and also no fast travel is a real pain in the ass for builders. Just a little much imo
I started a survival mode save, went to sanctuary and sat at the cooking pot. A cockroach came and bit me. I tried exiting the cooking pot and got stuck T posing and died. Time to restart! If i could at least quick save, id do it. As others said these games are glitchy.
I may do Survival Mode on my next playthrough. In the past it's always made the games I've played feel like a job and I got tired of it. But a lot of this makes sense.
Try to think of your gaming sessions in survival mode as 1-2 hour commitments. A day is 72 minutes, so you have around 72 minutes to complete your op, and then you'll start debuffing if you take longer and get sleepy. If you die, you simply start over from the start of the day as you woke up. I usually only quicksave on a matress if I find a really good legendary mid op. Losing an hour of progress is no big deal because video games are entertainment and have no meaningful progression in your real life, and having a risk/reward scenario every op is what makes it so fun. I died like 3 times yesterday at Quincy Ruins to a mini nuke, losing several hours to attempts, and it was so satisfying once I cleared the Gunners there. Survival is the only meaningful way to play IMO and gives a great sense of immersion.
Are we sure about how squishy enemies are made? I just cleared Airforce Station Olivia and those radroaches in the basement each took about five shots off my powerful 10mm to dispatch. Not very squish!
At first they are sorta bullet spongey, but eventually you will be mowing stuff down easy. You don't even need to invest in damage perks, just upgrading guns completely will take care of everything in a reasonable amount of time in survival mode. I didn't start investing in damage perk increases until level 50, and that's only because I needed them to upgrade the Handmade. They are 100% optional and once you max them out you will basically be playing on normal difficulty, one shotting everything.
After playing Survival mode (which I absolutely love) playing on the other difficulties feels so much less satisfying, accomplishments feel less. I don't use save mods either for that reason, it gives that same feeling.
I'm gonna get hate for this but when you get your first few settlements like hangman's alley, red rocket etc and the time you are about level 20+ ish, you are pretty comfortable with the water and food you have and can obtain, not to mention the noodle soups takahashi sells which is straight up game breaking for survival and by that point, survival is kinda a breeze
i used to play on survival mode until i would end up losing progress because i have too many mods loaded and my game crashes, but i do agree that it makes the game more enjoyable, just a shame that im more worried about if my game is gunna crash rather than if im gunna die
Its kind of true the harder the difficultly the more likely harder enemies spawn, the harder the more ep. Yours not exactly going ti get a level 5 mole rats spawn event. You might actually have a albino deathclaw in its place as a more stronger random event.
The institute teleport isn't worth the ability to go anywhere with the the vertibird. I wish this game would stop crashing. Otherwise this is a really good overview. I only play survival now, and I gotta say, this is p accurate
I play survival modded because i don't have time to walk around for years. The experience of progress loss is not the same as dark souls. There every encounter is life ending and the distances are smaller, making it less frustrating. Survival mode offers 2 things normal mode does not. Double experience, more realistic combat. Diseases are annoying, but I sometimes I don't even bother curing them until I meet a doctor.
You can walk from one end of the map to the other in like 5 minutes while overencumbered with Strong Back maxed out. You also can use vertibirds. It's really not that big of a deal. Illnesses are a minor annoyance and you should have over a hundred antibiotics stored by the time you're level 50 if you buy/craft them regularly. Survival mode is only hard in the early to mid game, after that you shouldn't really be dying often. I run around with Light Combat armor (96/100 with no resistance perks) and the only thing that can kill me instantaneously is a mini nuke. With Dense armor you can even face tank mines. I think some people don't spec enough into endurance which makes their lives miserable in survival mode. I'm level 80 currently with like 600 HP and I fear almost nothing but the fat man.
I guess if you play on survival mode you don’t bother with settlements. I don’t see how you could get to them in time to help with raider attacks if you have to walk. I sometimes end up arriving at the end of a fight and fail the quest to assist even with fast travel! I really think it depends on what “floats your boat”! If you want to test how tough you are against the npcs, rads and bugs survival mode is your thing. However, if you are driven by exploration and storytelling the standard playthrough is probably a better choice. You may as well suggest that removing the VATS system would be more realistic and I would agree but I doubt Id ever play Fallout that way, combat would just be too slow for my liking. The great thing about games like Fallout is that we are given a choice, many good games don’t. Accepting that players have different motivations and offering choice is the sign of a great publisher in my view.
In my opinion, Survival Mode is the only way to truly get the full-on "living in the wasteland" experience in Fallout 4. Enemies are way stronger, but so are you, so it's more realistic. Can't just blindly run into a gunfight with a group of enemies in full confidence that you will come out victorious, because you'll more than likely get destroyed. Gotta be strategic and smart in your approach to combat.... which, again, is much more realistic. It also makes settlement building an essential part of the game, because since there's no fast travel you have to plan your trips across the Commonwealth carefully and realistically, and settlements provide a place to sleep and get food along the way to your destination. Plus, it makes useless junk items into precious commodities. In regular difficulty, my most hated item to find in a container was the "empty bottle"...but after switching to survival mode, I literally pump my fist in celebration whenever I find an empty bottle (because I can turn it into purified water at one of my settlements, for free).😎💦
Survival mode is the only way to play fallout 4 for me. Its the only mode that makes settlements relevant to me, and the changes to how damage works improve the game quite a bit, because I always hated spongy enemies. You still wont be taking down raiders with a single shot of a basic handgun to the head, sadly, but its much better than the base game. It also makes companions way more relevant than in the base game, specially automatron robots. Wanna carry around a heavy weapon and its ammo like a fatman or a rocket launcher? Make a robot. Even one that isnt specialized for carry capacity can likely carry more than you can, and it can carry all that junk for you, too.
Speaking of "realism" or "Realistic" in this context is idiotic. In real life in the conditions of Fallout, if you get shot, or cut, or break a bone, you're DEAD. Period. End of story. So lets drop the talk of realism in FPS-RPG games, k?
This is a straight L take. You can absolutely have realism mixed with fantasy for more immersion. Stimpacks exist and negate your argument. End of story.
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That feeling you get when you find a trashcan full of glass bottles 🍾🍾🍾
EDIT: LMAO thank you for all the likes. This is my first top comment ever and it's insane to see 🤣
beantown brewery in Cambridge has around 100 glass bottles lmao, it was a good day when I realised that
@@officialtibby The excavation site at the start has a good 30ish or so, and if you base at Red Rocket/Sanctuary you can literally run back and forth looting them forever. It respawns all loot every time you exit and re-enter the cell. It's kinda cheesy but an option in a pinch if you need them dirty waters for noodle cups.
Thank you!@@Aliothale
So. Very. True. Empty bottles equal life. 🤣🤣 One of my first stops is the Speakeasy in Concord. I pillage that place of bottles long before rescuing Preston and the gang.
@@officialtibbyMuch keener on picking up those aluminium cans and anything with fibre optics, copper, screws, gears and adhesive. Glass bottles turn up all over the show. But you don’t get empty bottles when you drink Nuka cola.
Survival mode is the intended way to play Fallout 4. Everything about the game design points to it, and it seems Bethesda removed it as the default difficulty last minute after playtesting to casualize the game for a wider audience at launch. Everyone should try it for a playthrough, it's a completely different game experience and is one of the best survivalcraft game experiences we've ever seen. There's no cooler feeling than building up a really cool base, walking outside and tossing a signal flare, and then having a helicopter land and pick you up to run a mission. The gameplay loopfrom survival mode is insanely satisfying and immersive, and then when you toss on the wild aspects of the Fallout theme it becomes an instant banger. Fallout 4 is one of the most underrated games of all time, and it's largely due to the fact that many people have never played it in survival mode.
They say they did the same with Starfield (such a disappointing game tbh), really hope they stop that trend. Release these games as they are intended and bring the easier mode out later, if at all. Too many games these days offer little to no challenge.
While i tried survival and i like the fact that you deal and recieve more damage i still dislike the settlement system and find it boring. I think the base game should have an option to let settlers build the bases themselves... Sorta like sim settlement mods
@@IIMatt_DII Majority of players dont want challenge, they want a game with a good story mode. That is the best Fallout they got a good story other than that the game is kinda random. When completed the story you dont wanna play it over again.
This sounds great until you inevitably run into major glitches. And without console commands, fast travel, and lots of saves to choose from, you’re going to have a very bad time.
@@RandySnarshFallout 4s story isn't good.
Saving being disabled might be the only reason I won't play Survival. Because we're talking about a Bethesda game. Being able to save often is mandatory. I can't imagine losing hours of progress on a challenging mode like this because of a random crash.
Amen to that!
that's fair, losing progress stopped me from retrying survival mode for ages
It doesn't crash that often. Besides, just find a bed. You shouldn't be playing for hours without sleeping anyway, as your character will get some severe debuffs while tired.
As for beds, look around, there are all sorts of random beds and bedrolls hiding in random spots. If you just get through some challenging mission or got some good loot, find a bed and save.
@@Cyberwar101it also disables the console for debugging, and limits you to 3 save slots if you need to revert something. “Just use a bed” is an asinine response that makes it difficult to take you seriously. One MIGHT be able to argue the console restriction as a challenge but save slot restriction is just unacceptable with how often things glitch
@@Skullhawk13 To be fair if it does get too much or if a bug does happen you can always lower the difficulty to re-enable the console, save, fix the bug, then use the command to re-enable survival mode and boom you are on your way. Abuseable yes but that is up to the player to decide if they want to do it or not. I myself have had to do it cuz a few quests bugged out or i got stuck in terrain. Takes all of maybe 3 minutes and you're back on the survival train.
This is, hands down, the absolute best overview video of Fallout 4’s Survival Mode available on TH-cam.
thanks man, that's very nice of you to say :)
probably not but its sufficient in explaining survival mode
That’s why he needs to do a series run of it!! Good stuff.
it really is
ive burned bed spots on the map in dangerous areas into my brain, oh lord does it feel good to find one after getting a good legendary
I like the adrenaline buff so I avoid using field beds. But if I'm in a tough spot they are certainly welcome.
I only play on survival. It makes new character builds fun to start. Saving is a breeze when you know the locations for beds across the common wealth. Just save at every bed location. And settlements actually have a purpose and besides looking cool.
And there are things you can find or learn that makes your life easier. Wasteland Survival Guide anyone?
Cooking food and getting purified water all those things suddenly matter when they don't otherwise.
@@midnight347 yeah, that's why I love survival.
@@rossnorris2351The one in Sunshine Tidings is a must on Survival, especially with Grilled Radstag being so good for carrying more junk.
@@silversungaming9451 very true
I've seen many videos on people playing survival mode but this is the first time I've felt like trying it out, after watching this
I got fo4 in april, and started out immediately with a survival save, and I think that experience is a huge part of why fo4 is now one of my favourite games.
I always carry landmines in survival mode. So useful in early game.
Until they blow you up and you haven’t found a bed for nearly an hour
Why so useful!?
@@landonfrigault8096 kiting enemies threw them is my "useful"
Agreed, allot of creatures and ghouls run in a straight line towards you. Just make sure you also run backwards.
Yup, anytime I'm about to shoot something really dangerous at long range like a behemoth or deathclaw, I always lay down a few mines in front of me. That way if my shots don't kill them, I can at least lead them into the mines to finish them off.
Well armed provisioners between settlements are a great way to get protection on routes between locations without, or in addition to companions
Spot on take! The strategic benefit of developing trade routes for added security while out travelling is no joke. I remember the first time I made trade routes in the base game, I strove for efficiency. I made sure all my routes had centrally located hubs, minimizing travel times and overlapping redundancy. It. Was. Beautiful.
And then I popped my Survival cherry. Now my trade routes look insane. Overlapping. Long. Redundant. And EVERY Trader from my caravans are dressed in the FINEST formal outfits I can find, all fitted with MAX ballistic weaves, and over-armed with the most overpowered weaponry that an Infinite Ammo Loophole could POSSIBLY provide.
That's always the goal now. Because NOW when the game random-rolls some eff-you Yao Gui in the middle of my well-planned hike... I got backup all across the map at all times now. I always laughed when gamers complained about how pointless settlements were in Fallout. "Pointlessly added on" was a common perspective. Not in Survival. That useless brahmin trader might just save you three hours of gameplay!
@@geremy4 …3 hours of gameplay ? On survival. Never heard of it 😂
Been playing survival for years, i have it modified a fair bit, agony is a very good mod i recommend, each illness now has a specific drug to cure it and broken bones/being crippled requires surgery instead of a stim pack. Definitely one of the best mods around.
for you. For you, it’s one of the best mods around. For you
That’s kinda the point if you couldn’t tell, it’s there because I need the game to be harder. It’s obviously not for everyone. I’m just putting the recommendation out there for those that might be interested.
@@ja6975 You don't have to say something that is very obvious. It's obvious that it's his opinion. Saying so would be pedantic.
Is it on PS4?
@@iamjesus8fearme yeesh. So many words to say you’re an ignorant person who just hates immigrants when their existence has no bearing on your actual life or community. In my community, they’ve been a huge plus. In many communities, immigrants are always a plus.
If the next edition of fallout has survival at release it will be exclusively how I play my first run through. I had so much fun on multiple modded runs of survival in 4 before I ever did one without any mods. Completely changed the experience and made the role play even more immersive. If you’re not gonna do chems. You REALLY need to plan for it. If you’re running a sneak sniper, you better have a light automatic sidearm for when you’re rushed by dogs or even mole rats. My personal fav is definitely “Buck Norris” A9 E10, mostly unarmed and heavy use on chems,alcohol, and water so you’re getting huge melee buffs, and you’re carrying little to no ammo
I just started my first survival mode run yesterday and when combined with a mod that makes the lighting nighttime/interiors much more realistic and was shocked to find that Fallout 4 is almost as brutal as Day-Z. After the first few hours I arrived at all the same conclusions that you've covered in this video. I'm at lvl 7 and have an infection but the doctor in Diamond City is effectively out of reach, as I can barely leave Sanctuary. You are spot on in how this mode makes so many existing game mechanics that I don't touch in my lvl 90 character, suddenly extremely relevant. After getting taken out by swarms of bloat flies, I'm thinking that the best shot at getting healed is sticking around Sanctuary until I have the level required to build my own clinic. Leaving Sanctuary for ANY reason or ANY distance now requires planning. With my infection, I have to carry at least 20 units of water just to get through a 12 hour day.
There's a doctor in Covenant and there's also a ghoul doctor on south of Walden Pond,close to a Behemonth and a school bus. You don't need to travel to Diamond City
@@RafaelCavaleirodaHipocrisia Yeah, just go get cured by the Pond Doctor. And die of rads before the Behemoth has time to club ya. Do you happen to sell Health Potions to wounded Brotherhood Scribes with mangled feet? ;-)
Pro tip: Your first unlocks in the perk tree for survival mode should be Scrapper and Chemist. Being able to make your own antibiotics is essential from the very start and scrapper will give you so many more materials to build with!
I have a high level endurance character on survival mode. It’s still really fun, but there are less scary and chaotic moments now. I think mid game is the most fun for survival
I'm usually a big wimp when it comes to choosing difficulty settings, but with the delay to Fallout London I decided to have another go at F4 and chose Very Hard. A few days of playtime later, after a slightly more difficult start, I'm level 120 and nothing is a challenge any more. I decideed to switch to Survival and boy am I glad I did, it's a totally different experience. Having to travel everywhere means you get to know the map for more intimately. I've discovered new areas I hadn't seen in hundreds of hours of play time. The only downside is the frustration when you get the inevitable crashes.
It's worth noting that the Institute teleporter is also useful in other modes with fast travel, as it doesn't take any time, compared to fast travel which advances time based on the distance. E.g. if you're just about to fail a settlement defense quest, you can teleport to the Institute and then from there teleport to the settlement.
Highly recommend starting over, the early to mid game on survival is where all the fun is. To avoid crashing on PC, make sure you use RTSS to cap to 60fps, and restart your game every 3 hours. I haven't had a crash in a really long time because I restart my game every 2-3 in game days to flush the memory. Go out, do your mission for 1-2 days, come back home and drop/sort your loot, sleep, maybe go sell some loot/buy ammo for a day, reload the game and repeat.
I'm playing a chem-fiend in my first survival playthrough, and I LOVE the depth it adds to my character. Not only do I have to guzzle water in order to stay hydrated, but I care way more about the debuffs too! It's at the point where every single opportunity I have to take any drugs that remove debuffs present themselves, I do. It makes combat super easy in the moment, but when I run out of chems, I die CONSTANTLY. Love this shit.
@@decoded360 yeah, same here. It Is a question, if there is a way to play survival different than full of drugs 😡🤣🤣
Great take on the ludonarrative overlap of the settlement mechanics. Great video
It actually blew my mind how much more fun I had in survival mode, almost like its the way you should play it, the no fast travel bit is the most imposing part, but thats because you forget you unlock vertibird flares, and teleportation grenades, which makes them way more nessecery, and flying over Boston shooting things you see is way more immersive
Quick Tip: save manipulation. When you find a bed, but don't want to sleep?
Go up to the bed. Press the sleep button, set it for 1 hour. Once you press sleep IMMEDIATELY EXIT IT. You won't actually sleep and you'll see that the game auto saved for you in the corner.
Great video btw sorry for *potentially* ruin the saving bit lol
nah fake saving has been a must for me for ages. any bed I come across gets a fake 1-hour nap lmao
I never knew about this, only started playing Survival recently and hate having to reduce any adrenaline I've built up.
You still suffer the penalty from sleeping. All it does is not advance time
I like the benefits of setting up supply lines between settlements. You will encounter friendly caravans along their route. Not only can they lighten your load, but also back you up in an encounter.
You did a fantastic job of summarizing why survival mode makes the whole game feel complete. I tell anyone who is nervous about starting it that once you get the hang of it anything less then survival feels like it’s just not the same game.
Crazy how much fallout content is coming out rn
yea it's the tv show i reckon (that's why i'm making it lmao)
Fantastic video. I started a survivor playthrough for the first time about 2 months ago and I can definitively say it's the best way to play.
Yess absolutely! Another thing to point out, to which you may have did, is that you also get double xp in survival mode so you will level hp much faster.
Due to the show, one of my best friends wanted to get into Fallout 4 and wanted my advice. I wholeheartedly recommended survial mode, even though its his first fallout game ever. Its truly a different game. Its hard as hell in the beginning but once you master it, the journey is so worth it. Honestly, its a similar ethos to FromSoft games, a million props to Bethesda for really pulling that ff. My friend ended up trying survival mode and was getting his butt kicked in the beginning, but im proud to say that he stuck with it and became hooked. If you got the time, definitely try it out, this video does a great job of describing how different the game is but you have to try it for yourself to understand
The limitation of only saving in beds makes the game too incredibly frustrating because of the engine's instability when modded. It's much worse to lose progress to a game crash than it is to lose progress to my own mistakes. I always have to mod out that particular feature.
This video felt like I was in the position of everyone ive told about fallout survival, and it being the true way to play the game 😅 it really does change the whole feel of the game, im currently playing New Vegas again on "Hardcore mode" and its so easy because I've been through the worst fallout has to offer haha
Fast travel does take up in game hours so if you fast travel to or from a far away place (like Sanctuary) it is night time which means the shops are closed. For this reason my main base is always in Oberland Station because it is the closest settlement to downtown that has a decent amount of space. Although in survival mode Hangman’s Alley is the undisputed goat, despite it’s real lack of space.
Home Plate in Diamond City is my player home, but I use a mod to link all of the workbenches in the market to the workshop. But mods aside, Hangman's Alley absolutely is the best, especially after unlocking the Institute teleporter.
Hangmans alley is only good for a trading FoB imo, the random encounter spawn right next to it is annoying, and you can place a fast travel mat outside the orange door towards Diamond City to have your Vertibird land right on the road outside the stadium for trading. Red Rocket is the GOAT base. Access to Sanctuary for 750+ purified water/day and Abernathy for Vegetable Starch/Razorgrain, nothing beats Red Rocket when you have Vertibirds.
@@Aliothalewith Hangman’s Ally as home base you don’t need veritbird rides to make it a viable home base in survival mode. Even for some long distance destinations you can simply use the nearby river for transportation (with the aqua girl/boy perk of course). Thanks for the tip about choosing Diamond City as a vertibird landing spot to avoid that random encounter though (although I got a two shot laser rifle off one of those encounters).
@@Aliothale random encounters can be super useful though. Meeting the legendary traders or some easy victims. Granted, as soon as mechanist or dust devil robots spawn it is a shit show.
But, that random encounter crossroads is easily circumvented. Just don't exit through the western gate. Use the eastern gate, turn right towards DC, and next crossroad you turn right again, passing by the spawn point at a reasonable distance. And to get to Hangman's, just use the institute teleporter to get inside the institute, pop back out and walk across the bridge. 🤷🏼♂️
The size of the settlement is sufficient as well. Just need one pump and 2 farmers, tops. Plus beds of course and maybe a trader and/or doctor.
Great!! One of the best videos explaining the greatness of survival in fo4. You have a new subscriber. New Fallout games will always have to cater to the majority that only wants to run around in power armor guns blazing with almost infinite carry weight and ammo weighing 0, but hopefully we get a survival mode like this in the future too. I will show this video to people that I think are ready for survival mode. Once you go survival there's no going back 👍
Great analysis, I agree with you! I just wish we were affected by the weather in survival too. But honestly I think I didn't ACTUALLY play Fallout 4 until I played survival!
Survival mode makes puts this game in the convo for best of all time .
Just finished a survival run with no armour, no dog, no companions, no power armour. Died a few times. Got to level 150. completed all dlc's. I have just started a new survival run. Leather armour only, no dog or companions. Just finished level 50 no deaths so far. To make the game harder, I don't put any points into strength or intelligence. Therefore, I have to buy or find weapon and armour mods. No gun nut or armour workshop. Overseers guardian is my primary weapon and the .308 pipe rifle found in last house in concord upstairs. Buy the silencer from diner eventually modding to .50 cal when available from vendors. Leather armour is shadowed and pocketed. Leather chest piece is from diamond city vendor as it gives more time for chems to work. I have hot keyed psycho/jet and quantum cola. Don't be afraid to do drugs and buy addictol. Noodle cup is my go to meal for food and drink at same time. Helps with carry weight. Also mirelerk eggs only weight 0.1 when cooked with dirty water. Save whenever a bed is near is case game locks up, which it does occasionally. I play with PS4 no mods. Survival mode is brilliant for strategy. To get to Nigil in the glowing sea, I took rad x, glowing blood pack, cooked bloatfly, cooked mutant hound and stealth boys. No hazmat suit or power armour. Love the challenge
I feel like the mysterious serum would be especially useful for your style of play
@@technicolorskies5432 After the 150 level play through, I actually used the mysterious serum discovering the whole area of the glowing sea.
Was wondering how do you help settlements without fast travel ? And I have come to dislike being told one needs help and one is being attacked. If I even see it up on the corner
@@Kevin-ti3rz In survival, settlements are not a priority. I do any missions related to them but don't really care if they get attacked. Sometimes they win or lose without my help. However, in my own settlement in Hangman's Alley, as it is more central in the game, I put all my valueable components, screws, glue etc in a box, not in the workshop and get them when needed because if your main settlement gets attack and they lose, the game steals the components from the workshop. It has happened to me a few times when I couldn't get back in time. Very annoying. Building settlements is better when you can fast travel.
@@Kevin-ti3rz you can trigger the settlement raids just by flying over in a vertibird, you don't actually have to land. I'll typically fly to the settlement, provide fire support from the air, then fly home. Saves me the cost of a second vertibird grenade.
This is the first video of yours I've ever seen. I'll tell you right now that if you stick to this path it will pay dividends!
I've never played Fallout on Survival period. I've always been a played that enjoyed the story first and foremost. Then the settlement building and power fantasy that Bethsda really gets right.
Listening to you describe the Survival aspects so incredibly vividly has put a Survival playthrough right at the top of my list for my next game to play.
Really well made and thoughtful script!
Job well done!
(Edit: subscribed - I look forward to more from you!)
Here are some mods from the Nexus that help with some of the worst annoyances of Survival Mode while maintaining the challenge and immersion.
Gimme My Bottle- consuming bottled water or Nuka Cola returns an empty bottle to your inventory.
Salvage Beacons- gain the ability to craft salvage beacons and a beacon control station (which requires power and an assigned settler). Overloaded? Drop all your excess loot into a container, add a beacon, and the closest settlement with a control station will send a team to recover the cache, adding it to the settlements workbench.
Personal APC and The Red Wave- these two both provide a vehicle that acts as a limited player home while returning limited fast travel. The APC can be found outside of Concord, the Red Wave is a small fishing trawler you can obtain in Far Harbor. Both need the right perks and materials to repair them, must be fueled to move them (fusion cores for the APC, oil for the Wave), and can only move between about a dozen already discovered locations. But they can ease travel times in a realistic way.
This last one is a bit of a stretch, but I won't do survival without it- Smokeable Cigarettes and Cigars. It turns cigarettes and cigars into an Aid item and lets you break down packs, cartons, and boxes to get more. Smoking gives a trivial buff, is highly addictive, and withdrawal penalties are fairly severe (although treating nicotine withdrawal is easy- just light another). So why use it? Because in Survival Mode, it creates a single Quicksave slot that is overwitten everytime you light up. About to hit the Super Mutants at Revere and dreading having to replay the last 2 hours if it goes badly? Just finished scrapping your new settlement and don't want to have to redo it? Take a quick smoke break and carry on.
So many perks I took in survival I wouldn't glance at in base
I love survival mode so much. I’m lvl 40 right now and this is my 5th Fallout 4 play through. I always played it on very hard before this. I think anyone who mods the game too much is missing the point. Just play vanilla and it will not crash, I promise you. It’s crashed on me only ONCE in my whole survival playthrough. Save often because tiredness is gonna give you a debuff anyway.
the survival mode changes this into a completely different game my first play through the world felt empty lifeless just checking checking off missions the mechanics get changed a bit then boom you have the best survival game ever made makes it feel super intense doing anything because there is high level risk makes some fights super terifying and stressfull its so intense and fun thank you for making this video you worded everything and explained it for everyone so well this is probably the best game ever made now because of this mode its so much fun dude
a casual lets play in survival mode would be cool :)
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I've only ever played F4 on the setting below hardest, and since resuming playing with the TV show I'm now on V hard, which I am finding ... Challenging at times.
But this vid makes me want to start a new play through on survival. Great job 👌🏻
Playing on survival in VR is wild. I’m playing as a sniper with a hunting rifle, but I have a sawed-off in my back pocket that I’ll line up in VATS and blow heads off like crazy. VATS functions like bullet time in VR, but it also lets you move in VATS. You can either use AP to dodge an attack or use it to blow someone’s head off. It’s so fucking awesome.
DUDE THAT SOUNDS SUPER DOPE ALREADY ON ALMOST EVERY CONSOLE GONNA GET A PC AS WELL CANT WAIT TO TEY THAT DUDE
Survival makes the game feel bigger, Paladin Dance’s first mission was super hard on my first survival play through. It changes the game.
A very detailed description of the Survival mode. You really covered everything and I couldn’t agree less with you: survival mode is the best. I would’ve missed a lot of fun if I haven’t tried it
Hey dude! Love the video. Glad to find a small channel to sub. Fallout 4 Survival mode is such a fun challenge. Personally, I only made it about level 20/Confront Kellog before I put it down, simply because of the constant debuff from healing items like Radaway, etc. It was fantastic, but sooner or later, it was annoying using more resources than what I collect venturing out from my safe settlements into the wild. Still fun though!
An incredible overview of Survival! This mode has ruined me on Fallout 4 gameplay. I can’t play it any other way now because, as you stated, once you play in this mode, regular gameplay seems waaaay to easy. Even on very hard mode. I love this game and Survival mode has only increased my enjoyment.
I think I've just been convinced to play on survival mode for my next playthrough
Survival mode with sim settlements is so cool. The start is rough, but once you get to around lvl 14-16 it really starts. Building travel routes via settlements you build up is incredible especially with sim settlements watching your towns build up. Saverettes is also a good mod as it limits your saves but helps you not lose hours to an unlucky trap or fatman
Survival is definitely the best part of Fallout 4. Would be interested in your take on the perk progression. I started one with 1 END, INT, CHR that felt really strong out of the gate
My least favorite thing about survival is the insta kill molotovs enemies will spawn in front of them in a single frame. Like they couldn’t have added an animation of them lighting the cocktail at least 😅
Damn good explanation of survival mode mate👌 I've been doing survival playthrough with minutemen and modded to stay lore freindly.
Subscribed,Can't wait for more👍
I loved survival. I just 100%'d the games achievements with it. So cool. The no save unless you sleep is such an easy way to turn people off, though. That made my brother drop it back down to very hard immediately because of that. Oh well
I basically finished the game on the older survival mode, it was tons of fun. The slow healing on stimpaks was cool. Playing the dlc on new survival was a bit jarring, especially because that Island in the south was my main home & I had to walk in power armor or swim across the water to get back & forth until i built a vertibird pad there
I feel like not enough people know that the railroad also has vertibirds
I think I'll put the difficulty on survival when my settlements will be built, I don't want to march to Diamond city every time I need glass
Survival permadeath was the most fun playthrough I ever had.
If the institute could teleport you anywhere instead of just in then out to the C.I.T. ruins i dont think i'd ever side with a different faction
Informative, interesting, I thoughtful, thoroughly enjoyed the video. I am inspired to try survival mode because of the ideas presented here, kudos to the writers taking gaming to the next level.
My number one thing against survival mode is how often the game crashes for no reason (I have zero mods and play with all updates). At least once every session I’m thrown out of the game due to unexpected error losing my progress. Therefore I need to quick save often. I want to try out survival mode but I don’t think I’d enjoy it due to this reason. One thing is if you die because of yourself, it’s another when it’s due to poor programming.
Im just playing my first survival playthrough and my second playthrought because this game didnt worked for me for years!! You wrote it down beatifuly! And with mods this game looks and plays the way you like, what makes it another level better. Just the saves in survival, even if i like it, is just too much tense when Im afraid to open exit doors just to loose several hours of gameplay!!!
So saving mods (sleeping bags etc) are real saviors!
To me the hunger, thirst, and disease chance are about 2x too much, especially it feels weird since I change my timescale to 8, something felt off to me. But I did do a full playthrough on survival with the gopher mod for quicksave and despite the intense thirst rates etc, survival was a good mode for sure. Fun experience.
I would love survival if everytime I tried a survival playthrough, at level 30+ my game didn’t start crashing randomly when I go into VATS. Losing hours of playtime over and over and over ended with me sticking to very hard playthroughs
Don't know which platform you're playing on, but for PC there's a VATS crash fix on Nexus mods. It works well.
it just works yo... it juuuussssttttt wwwooooorrrrrkkkkssss (as game freezes 🤬🤬🤬) 😊😊😊.
@@smokesreefer9417 😂
True Story 😏 😏
this happened to me try not to store stuff randomly everywhere what i did i just unchecked every mission on the pip boy and it ran like butter again not sure what causes it for everyone though because alot of people use mods mght experience more issues when i get it for pc as well
Fallout 4 Frost is the true Survival Experience, normal Survival is ok but nothing compared to it,btw theres a mod for safes even in survival
Get Sneak 3 before you go downtown exploring passed Diamond City. If you don't, you will step on a landmine or floor trap and die every 20 minutes.
facts, sneak 3 is a goated perk
You don't know how many times I've looked down at my feet and said "oh, I should be dead right now."
14:56 I don't even use shotguns for the same reason. The ammo is just too heavy.
Bro casually walking with a 22lb of iron stuck in his chest
The railroad offers vertibird pickup too…
I use mods to make it even more realistic. I wish they'd either officially updated Survival to make it even more realistic, or add a new Realism mode. Either way I hope Fallout 5 gets less RPG-esque and more immersive survival (sure, a perk might add damage to melee weapons, that makes sense, but you cannot increase damage of firearms by leveling up or getting perks or whatever). At least I want them to give us this as an option.
That x2 damage is something. Killing a deathclaw with a hunting rifle in 2 shots is amazing.
If the game werent so unstable, I could really appreciate the "only saves when you sleep" aspect. But I'm more likely to have the game crash rather than die in combat, and losing progress because the game crashed it WAAAAYYYY more infuriating.
I like the idea of survival mode, especially with how severe the damage output is. I just can't fathom not saving in a game riddled with bugs and crashes, and also no fast travel is a real pain in the ass for builders. Just a little much imo
I started a survival mode save, went to sanctuary and sat at the cooking pot. A cockroach came and bit me. I tried exiting the cooking pot and got stuck T posing and died. Time to restart!
If i could at least quick save, id do it. As others said these games are glitchy.
I may do Survival Mode on my next playthrough. In the past it's always made the games I've played feel like a job and I got tired of it. But a lot of this makes sense.
Try to think of your gaming sessions in survival mode as 1-2 hour commitments. A day is 72 minutes, so you have around 72 minutes to complete your op, and then you'll start debuffing if you take longer and get sleepy. If you die, you simply start over from the start of the day as you woke up. I usually only quicksave on a matress if I find a really good legendary mid op. Losing an hour of progress is no big deal because video games are entertainment and have no meaningful progression in your real life, and having a risk/reward scenario every op is what makes it so fun. I died like 3 times yesterday at Quincy Ruins to a mini nuke, losing several hours to attempts, and it was so satisfying once I cleared the Gunners there. Survival is the only meaningful way to play IMO and gives a great sense of immersion.
Very informative left a like and subscribe im going to try survival after my first playthrough :D
I don't like needing to eat and drink in games.
Are we sure about how squishy enemies are made? I just cleared Airforce Station Olivia and those radroaches in the basement each took about five shots off my powerful 10mm to dispatch. Not very squish!
yeah haha i said less tanky, some enemies can still be tough
also i'm like 90% sure one of those roaches is guaranteed to be legendary
At first they are sorta bullet spongey, but eventually you will be mowing stuff down easy. You don't even need to invest in damage perks, just upgrading guns completely will take care of everything in a reasonable amount of time in survival mode. I didn't start investing in damage perk increases until level 50, and that's only because I needed them to upgrade the Handmade. They are 100% optional and once you max them out you will basically be playing on normal difficulty, one shotting everything.
After playing Survival mode (which I absolutely love) playing on the other difficulties feels so much less satisfying, accomplishments feel less. I don't use save mods either for that reason, it gives that same feeling.
I'm gonna get hate for this but when you get your first few settlements like hangman's alley, red rocket etc and the time you are about level 20+ ish, you are pretty comfortable with the water and food you have and can obtain, not to mention the noodle soups takahashi sells which is straight up game breaking for survival and by that point, survival is kinda a breeze
What a well thought out and well spoken video. Thank you.
thank YOU for your kind words
Great video, can you do a video more about meds and other consumables cons? Maybe a different video on cooking station?
i used to play on survival mode until i would end up losing progress because i have too many mods loaded and my game crashes, but i do agree that it makes the game more enjoyable, just a shame that im more worried about if my game is gunna crash rather than if im gunna die
Is this something you would recommend for a first playthrough?
Its kind of true the harder the difficultly the more likely harder enemies spawn, the harder the more ep. Yours not exactly going ti get a level 5 mole rats spawn event. You might actually have a albino deathclaw in its place as a more stronger random event.
survival mode on fallout 4 is like crack or acid be careful because once you try it theres no going back
Yes I love the new fallout content especially fallout 4 survival mode
The institute teleport isn't worth the ability to go anywhere with the the vertibird. I wish this game would stop crashing. Otherwise this is a really good overview. I only play survival now, and I gotta say, this is p accurate
the teleporter is useful, but only in one direction. maybe the option to build dedicated teleporters at your settlements would be cool
I play survival modded because i don't have time to walk around for years. The experience of progress loss is not the same as dark souls. There every encounter is life ending and the distances are smaller, making it less frustrating.
Survival mode offers 2 things normal mode does not. Double experience, more realistic combat. Diseases are annoying, but I sometimes I don't even bother curing them until I meet a doctor.
You can walk from one end of the map to the other in like 5 minutes while overencumbered with Strong Back maxed out. You also can use vertibirds. It's really not that big of a deal. Illnesses are a minor annoyance and you should have over a hundred antibiotics stored by the time you're level 50 if you buy/craft them regularly. Survival mode is only hard in the early to mid game, after that you shouldn't really be dying often. I run around with Light Combat armor (96/100 with no resistance perks) and the only thing that can kill me instantaneously is a mini nuke. With Dense armor you can even face tank mines. I think some people don't spec enough into endurance which makes their lives miserable in survival mode. I'm level 80 currently with like 600 HP and I fear almost nothing but the fat man.
Just started survival with 10 chr, 9 int and 5 luck. Going to Concord was a mistake
13:27 new vegas hardcore mode also does this.
true, I forgot at the time
I guess if you play on survival mode you don’t bother with settlements. I don’t see how you could get to them in time to help with raider attacks if you have to walk. I sometimes end up arriving at the end of a fight and fail the quest to assist even with fast travel!
I really think it depends on what “floats your boat”! If you want to test how tough you are against the npcs, rads and bugs survival mode is your thing. However, if you are driven by exploration and storytelling the standard playthrough is probably a better choice.
You may as well suggest that removing the VATS system would be more realistic and I would agree but I doubt Id ever play Fallout that way, combat would just be too slow for my liking. The great thing about games like Fallout is that we are given a choice, many good games don’t. Accepting that players have different motivations and offering choice is the sign of a great publisher in my view.
Well yes, but have you played the Misery total overhaul mod for STALKER: Call of Pripyat?
I love Survival mode but as a console player I can’t tell you how often I’ll lose progress I’ve lost because of VATS crashes.
I can only play on survival mode now.
Survival mode is all well and good, until you install the whispering hills mod…
In my opinion, Survival Mode is the only way to truly get the full-on "living in the wasteland" experience in Fallout 4. Enemies are way stronger, but so are you, so it's more realistic. Can't just blindly run into a gunfight with a group of enemies in full confidence that you will come out victorious, because you'll more than likely get destroyed. Gotta be strategic and smart in your approach to combat.... which, again, is much more realistic. It also makes settlement building an essential part of the game, because since there's no fast travel you have to plan your trips across the Commonwealth carefully and realistically, and settlements provide a place to sleep and get food along the way to your destination. Plus, it makes useless junk items into precious commodities. In regular difficulty, my most hated item to find in a container was the "empty bottle"...but after switching to survival mode, I literally pump my fist in celebration whenever I find an empty bottle (because I can turn it into purified water at one of my settlements, for free).😎💦
Would have been perfect if only your damage output wasnt increased. I have to downgrade weapons for enemies to still be even a mild challenge.
the real enemy of suvivor mode is the save system, the game corrupt my save 3 times...
Survival mode is the only way to play fallout 4 for me. Its the only mode that makes settlements relevant to me, and the changes to how damage works improve the game quite a bit, because I always hated spongy enemies. You still wont be taking down raiders with a single shot of a basic handgun to the head, sadly, but its much better than the base game.
It also makes companions way more relevant than in the base game, specially automatron robots. Wanna carry around a heavy weapon and its ammo like a fatman or a rocket launcher? Make a robot. Even one that isnt specialized for carry capacity can likely carry more than you can, and it can carry all that junk for you, too.
Still needs the repair system to add more realistic play.
Only way to play this game now. I’ll never go back.
I love Survival mode.
All other modes are far too easy.
The wiki says you get 200% xp compared to 100% for the other difficulties, is that untrue?
I think it's just for kills, but idk I might have been wrong lmao
After having played survival mode, non-survival gameplay felt somewhat boring and a little like cheating
Speaking of "realism" or "Realistic" in this context is idiotic. In real life in the conditions of Fallout, if you get shot, or cut, or break a bone, you're DEAD. Period. End of story. So lets drop the talk of realism in FPS-RPG games, k?
This is a straight L take. You can absolutely have realism mixed with fantasy for more immersion. Stimpacks exist and negate your argument. End of story.
@@Aliothale you think stimpacks are real?