When you going to do a video on the US NSA surveillance state that literally monitors every person in the US and most peoples around the world?? Or you just going to keep pushing more anti China war propaganda?
The footage in the first few seconds of this video is not actually from Xinjiang. I've seen this debunked claim on reddit and stuff but I'm surprised to see it on a news site that takes itself seriously. Could you correct this?
@@farzanamughal5933 it's all propaganda! It's not even believable but yet people do. These claims have been debunked but people just believe it because it comes from these "reliable sources".
“Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.” -Snowden
I think if ur home remains your sanctuary then anything else is like this then I think it's fine for example in Australia u are allowed to be racist in the privacy of your home but u cant in public. Alot of crimes have been discovered and perpetrators arrested, an interesting example in the UK a man was found to be stabbing cats and was caught on camera a horrible crime in itself what if it had escalated and he decided it was time to kill people? the biggest issue in my experience is the huge amounts of data that has to be crawled through by an analyst so its reactive rather than proactive in terms of finding criminal activity. The con would be is the government uses it against you or trys to discredit you and that happens a lot in any government form. The question is does the good outweigh the bad? I think it does to a degree.
@@cengizali5361 yea and various Chinese empires have controlled Mancu, Tibet, Xinjiang, Mongolia, Vietnam over the years. Just because they controlled a bit of land for a bit of time, doesn’t mean that it’s theirs. If that was the case, then Hong Kong will still be British
@@johnssmith4005 because CN controls medias, public opinions, jurisdiction...etc. by a single party. they don't need to worry about oppositions in the country, and they can just ignore oppositions abroad. The Only thing they need to do is to claim "it is in the public interest". Every government wants control, they are nothing different.
Yep. Funny enough I was explaining this to my classmates when I was 14. I'm really dumb in many aspects but that was something I understood really well early on. It came from my way of thinking about the world where I wonder why things are how they are and why things are where they are. I'd look at surveillance cameras and wonder who was on the other side looking at me. I was in my freshman year of highschool at the time. The early web was really cool because the only incentive people had to put information on there was be nerdy and share it. So.. I could trust a lot of things about the world. I knew 2008 was coming in 2006. That was a really bizarre experience. I of course knew all about the NSA. I remember the very day 9/11 happened. What did except all this would come to?
I was based in the UAE around 2010 and filmed many closed-door meetings for HUAWEI during that time. It was all about future (which is now) government-level surveillance technologies. There were often delegates from the Middle East and African countries attending those meetings. They were demonstrating technologies like VPN tracing, face recognition, biometric data analysis. I had to stop working with them after realizing what was all that about. It's chilling to see many of those have become reality now.
Let’s just say, “we the people” can stop their plans no matter how much the “we the people” tries, especially they👁know how the brain works and how to manipulate by indoctrination and brainwashing and us e the “we the people” against each other, perfect example BLM and Antifa and everything are right under “we the people” noses but still the “we the people” refuse to believe and ignore the truth.
Social media in itself has evolved into nothing more than a monitoring / surveillance system. My only question: is it more lucrative as an advertising platform, or a blackmail tool that is capable of compromising any politician?
Agreed, the fact that we are being pushed personalized contents anywhere we look IS an evidence that we are already being surveilled. Anyone capable of fetching those data can easily gain even more personal information about us........
Right… The ones who designed it weren’t sitting there thinking, how can Google or search engines serve the people… The whole time it was designed to serve them, do you get it now… It was done in reverse under your nose intentionally
Both are evil in my opinion. The steeping stone to social media being used to spread propaganda was Yelp. Companies started paying for fake reviews. It wasn't long before they figured out they could do alot more. It's actually pretty scary. We need some type of data collection laws asap.
Science fiction has a way of predicting the future... Unlike fantasy... One day the idea of going to the moon was science fiction, or even flight. I see George Orwells future making more sense after a total collapse of society OR how the relationship between earth and its colonies may go if we get to populate the galaxy...
I hated that book and especially hated that I HAD to read it, for school. But I remember thinking it was a good thing that everyone is made to read that book as now there's no way the people would ever allow something like that to happen! Imagine my surprise...
I love how this episode makes it appear as if the us gov is entirely against this when they literally have an entire agency dedicated to doing this to their own citizens. Even passed a law to do it. Just completely ignored that.
everything Snowden revealed. Western democracies are spying on their own citizens, or spying on their neighbor countries on behalf of those governments.
@@jamfd3s788 This video is nothing but lies meant to preserve american hegemony. US hegemony is dying, specifically because china is able to undermine it's imperialist foreign policy relations with its 'mutual development' based foreign policy. The American state and its allies are going into survival mode in order to protect this hegemony. Don't fall for this nonsense.
My bosses at my work record all of their employees conversations and activities during all hours. They use this to discipline their employees and find out if people are sharing discontented views on the place I work for. I've seen my coworkers reprimanded for precieved issues that they have been recorded doing and saying when no managers are in the building. One of my coworkers who works with children was reprimanded for not doing her job when in actuality she was just not in view of the cameras when she took the children outside for activities which is a completely normal thing for her to do in her job. Theres a certain Orwellian feeling everytime I enter work even when I am not on the clock. Furthermore, the utter incompetence of the people using the cameras to spy on their employees is very concerning. The truth of the matter is that a lot of the employees are disgruntled with their employers and share those opinions when taking breaks and this has been my experience with every job I've ever had. The difference is is that they are listening. Its oppressive and should be illegal. They are not the government but it is still a violation of our right to free speech. "Oh you dont like it , quit."? Well, most of us need our jobs and are barely hanging on as it is and have no other options as we live in a small town. If you read this and support what I'm saying give a like and tell me how I can get this to stop. I'm thinking full staff walkout in full view of the surveillance equipment.
If only we could unionize.. most of the people who work there are just out of high school and college And those that aren't like myself are too afraid to lose their jobs to take action. The history of making complaints at my work is that if you step up you get manipulated in to thinking you're in the wrong, ignored, or treated poorly for challenging authority. I've even been talked to rudely and treated like a truant child for having to take a sick day due to a serious medical condition I have been battling with for years. This was followed by workplace gossip started by my own boss to make me look disingenuous. Furthermore, my coworker has repeatedly been told that her job is "not really that important" and that they are "really doing you a favor" by letting her keep her position. She goes around every day at work at her wits end hoping that they do not decide to fire her. I've told her that they were probably just trying to mess with her head but she is young and doesnt understand how manipulative employers can be to their employees. They do all this and watch our every move making it any extremely oppressive place to work where everyone fears that they will lose their jobs or have their private lives and conversations become public knowledge. I have talked to my boss about my medical condition only to find out the next day the WHOLE STAFF knew every detail of that very private conversation that was made clear to the listener that is was VERY PRIVATE. I'm scared that if my medical condition prevents me from working I will be fired or have my reputation ruined as it is (as I have sai d) a small town and most everyone knows each other.
My previous employers had security cameras all over the office, including several in the break area covering all angles that even made it possible to zoom in on an employees phone screen if they were on break. I would entirely leave the property to make any personal phone calls. They would watch the video feed obsessively to the point they would call the office when they were out of the country to complain about something they saw when in reality they often had no true reason for concern.
There is a weakness to all of these survalience systems, they can be Hacked. Try to find a good hacker to hack into your jobs survalience system and make it maunfution or override. This is the only way you can truly take a stand, or you can quit and try to convince people to join you and make your own company. If you want to do something about this try doing those two things, hopes you see this and it helps you.
@@mikekemp5863 Except you can see the re-education camps from space and not only that you can see the "Kindergarden" camps where they took all these people's children from satellite imagery. Then there are the hundreds on mainlanders who know about it, the refugees who escaped, some of which had babies aborted. The only fake thing here is mike kemp the fool.
This is byond nationalism, authoritarianism, its totalitarianism which no individual can turn away from. A system which works only for it's own continuation, even if all members need to suffer. It owns the people and uses them against each other in a cycle that cannot be broken.
The final goal of the CCP is not only world domination, but complete control over every human being on this planet. Right now they're practicing exactly this on their own population, but their final goals are much bigger. This sci fi movie dystopia, I never took it seriously. Well, this has changed in the past few years. Now it seems perfectly possible if not likely, because I don't know if anyone can stop the CCP.
Stop throwing around meaningless buzzwords. Having surveillance to protect your country from threats against the People's Democracy & Leadership must be under all pretexts protected, no matter the way.
@@a564-c3q yes, it is the CCP who has more than 800 military bases arround the world? It is the CCP who is always waging direct wars and proxy wars around the world and is always inventing an enemy? Or, wait, it's the USA!
Nothing is stopping you from deleting TH-cam and social media. Get a physical job and live in a small town. You would think farm&ranch are so hard to find in Texas or some other places.
I do find it ironic that I am watching this on a platform owned by Google. No need to force people here in the US, we sign up for it by not reading the terms of agreement, and even if we do, we still have no choice. At the end of the day it is no different to me.
Most don't understand the problem. And the grey zone between personal privacy and collective measures to combat a global health crisis need to be addressed.
@@kevinw2592 started back with the terrorist attacks. Some shaddows was financing and organizing them. Create the fear problem and provide the safety solution...
Our politicians in the US are so lost and disconnected these companies could walk in under the guise of an American police security firm and they would do nothing.
VICE is a mouthpiece for Jacobin, left-wing biased news and its always been evident. Sure their global news footage and reporters appear solid, but when it comes down to it they slant all of their videos to put the victimhood on the corrupt, while claiming anyone from opposing views is a threat in some way. Playing coy with a soft tone and attributing a groups of people to uncaring subhuman pawns.
@@xSP3CTREx are the Uyghurs “corrupt people”? This video is defending them and criticizing the Chinese government. You have a point with some of their coverage, but they’re in the right here.
People only protest or rebel when their bottom line like food and water is threatened and even then its not guaranteed (North Korea) otherwise you can boil them slowly like frogs and they wont even acknowledge they should do something.
Because they sold out, just like the assholes who buy Huawei products because they are "cheaper". As long as people keep betraying everyone for a short term "benefit" wr are fucked. Stop supporting Capitalism.
For my own, I really doubt that the boycott of the Winter Olympic games in Beijing by the major Western nations is driven by any kind of sensitivity of their governments about the Huighurs condition ; I think it's a power play that is going on : Western firms have underestimated the Chinese in highly advanced technological fields like AI, quantum computers, 5G and so on, and now that they realise they are about to be left behind there is a backlash against China. I am not naive about the surveillance society China is developing at the expense of its own citizens but I think the Western democracies are doing the same, sometimes in a more subtle manner, but sometimes not so ; just think about the many restrictions and controls governments have brought in, in the name of the pandemic...
@@smurfyyy96 two points: a. The US government is no lesser maleficent, as Kissinger once famously said,"Doomed he be who considers US his ally" or something like that. b. The good thing, atleast the US is a democracy and you are free to criticize, bring into notice the illegalities through a fair, open social/news media. Try that in China, you will disappear in minutes. All that we know about Uighurs and Tibetan crises is despite of China trying to hide them. Imagine what would break out if suddenly China becomes a free world tomorrow. China is a glorified, richer version of North Korea, nothing less. Come any day, the citizens of the country you just mentioned will prefer to be a citizen in the US rather than China's.
Way less worried about autocracy or dictatorship in the developed world. What we need to be worried about is technocracy, giant corporations like Google/Amazon/Meta/etc...they are the ones to be afraid of. Especially corporations (like Vice does here) who try to shift blame to the government, when tech companies are being busted for this kind of spying every year.
@@pauliethehead he did, but only because it was easy to see because it was already happening. it's not they only invented surveillance states in the 2020s.
lol there is online sites and companies are breaking tbe law everday but you better notbootleg the new spider man lol people priorites are all messed up
@@LiKWiDjay it's more than just our government you have to worry about. Foreign governments use it for targeted propaganda campaigns. Companies use it to manipulate consumers in mass scale.
Most of the video sounds like it's all China's fault. It is as far as their own country is concerned, but we should also be blaming our own governments for buying and wanting to use such system rather than just China for selling them.
@@zengmaxxing It sets a bad example, and wants other countries to emulate it. It deserves criticism. Our own countries get much more criticism from our own people than China would ever tolerate to circulate publicly.
For those who aren't afraid of surveillance, it's basically like having someone over your shoulder watching you browse the web, you're never safe, although it feels like you are.
What a great generation I was born into. In my 20s I’ve had to deal with quarantines, inflation and not being able to afford a house like my parents did my age. And now China and Russia are getting more unhinged.
Stop being depressed and quit making up excuses. You think our parents life is the same as ours? Wage during there times was $6 note it’s $14 at the same place.
You deal with inflation every year but yes i agree, corporations are taking over because they have all the money which means they get thr final say. Take zillow buyong homes for 50% over the askin price, how are normal people supposed to compete with these companies? Im glad the stock market was doin well guys, the rich get richer and steal your time then funnel your wealth in to their own pockets. Its gonna get worse
@@andriod8014 how can we make progress when people like you keep dragging us back? Since you dont know what you are talking about, Can you kindly shut up please
The UN should come up with guidelines on to what extent/limit surveillance is necessary to enable the citizens to be happy and healthy. That limit should not exceed. And UN countries can sign a legally binding treaty on abiding by it.
While this is nice in theory, it's not realistic. What happens when the countries that sign decide to break that treaty? What are the consequences? Nothing. Trade/ economic sanctions? Doesn't work when it's major powers like the US or China. Many countries are reliant on them for trade. Many countries which are part of the UN have already broken plenty of human rights agreements. Nothing happens. It's all for show.
their tactics are just like coercive control in abusive domestic relationships. canada is working on a bill to make coercive control illegal, as they've done in england and wales.
Balzac Waxhoff More like terrorist of the new world, unless somebody manages to create a virus that can infect every A.I on the planet and turn them against there will into human killing machines. I don’t think the title of god really suites the hackers of tomorrow. Now with A.I on the rise, it’s inevitable robots will take over sometime later in the future. If somebody can create this virus then I think that individual is worthy of the title, “God”.
This is getting worse at an increasing pace. The technology is getting better and cheaper at the same time, the required computing power is getting available and cheaper as well and last but not least smart AI makes this just so many times more powerful. At the same time AI is evolving at s rapid pace as is the computing power for AI. In a few years surveiling a 1.4 billion people population will be even easier, cheaper and much more sophisticated as now. Because of the points above as well as further increasing camera density at increasing camera quality at decreasing camera prices.
Chinese Surveillance? These capabilities and systems have been in use by several countries for a while. Yes, the potential for abuses are enormous. Unfortunately, I don't think the fact will change anything anytime soon. Things are just getting more complex. Soon we'll see robots on the streets linked to the same systems.
Hilariously the tech had been around for a while but Chinese Surveillance is more a testament to centrally planned economies and its infrastructure building rather than its specific intent on tracking. If the US gov could spend as much money as they wanted they'd put cameras everywhere.
@@Furiends Interesting point. Yes, the investment in the infrastructure is key. I just don't appreciate the bias and feeding of bickering with other countries for things many do. This is not productive and only helps feed distrust, lies, hate. Public opinion manipulation. We must do better.
It really makes me sad that this is just now coming to the front of conversation. I started talking about this kind of thing when the Patriot act was signed. Privacy around the world is practically gone and I can't see it changing. Onward to the 22nd century and may the odds be ever in your favor lol.
Vice should also cover the technological industries ongoing surveillance and manipulation of information right here in America. Search browsers are not a public library like we all assume. They are marketing machines that feed you the product, the information, that profits them the greatest if you accept it as true.
Trump got that idea from Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison. we banned Huwai first, We said origins of covid should be investigated, we said human right there are not fair and as a result lost billions of trade with china, we stood up to china!! whilst the rest of the world is just waking up to it. A nation of 23million agains a country of 1.4billion. Now cause of australia the world is really waking up to china.
@@jasonh289 we all know what China is up to, Australia this Australia that tend to forget China will walk over that country, matter of fact under least than two days. USA will be there long after than if a surprise attack occurs? A pump of emp in the major city’s to stop emergency calls to the world , than take over , Australia may be standing up but should be careful
Trump did everything better look at our country a year later after Biden was elected people swear things were bad then but have no fucking clue what they were saying look at how bad our country is getting
@@listenbro3673 this has to be one of the dumbest comments... 🙄 🤦 ummm 👋 pandemic all because he didnt believe it. All he knew how to do was make empty promises.
As human beings we survived for generations without this type.of surveillance. We don't need it. We have to fight against it. Everyone is equal. No one has a right to exercise control over the lives of others.
This video was interrupted partway through by a minute+ long ad for security cameras. Their message was so eerily similar to this video that I watched a full 30 seconds before I realized it wasn't part of it.
I was based in the UAE around 2010 and filmed many closed-door meetings for HUAWEI during that time. It was all about future (which is now) government-level surveillance technologies. There were often delegates from the Middle East and African countries attending those meetings. They were demonstrating technologies like VPN tracing, face recognition, biometric data analysis. I had to stop working with them after realizing what was all that about. It's chilling to see many of those have become reality now.
Reminds me of how Amazon films their workers and has AI systems to look at how quick and efficient their workers are. They even get fired by AI if it detects them being slow.
I've come to realise that western society already has similar social structures and surveillance. For many services you need a telephone number these days. (2 factor verification) when it comes to having a bank account... That is tied into our government issued IDs. If someone fails to keep their bank account in good order, you become 'red flagged' as per your credit rating. I could go on...
Yeah sure buddy. Everything's the same, except for the Concentration camps. The actual genocide. The harvesting of organs. Covid itself. I could go on...
@@MRAB19971 really the border cages? First of all nobody likes that the government keeps children in cages but they are not killing them and harvesting their organs like they do in China. Mentioning the NSA is pointless, what country doesn't have an intelligence agency or two. Typical propaganda tactic, comparing two sad but ultimately different issues. In the u.s., the problem is because of people trying to enter the country. We actually fly them back to their countries. China has people that want to leave but can not. They can't even travel to their neighboring province because their credit score is too low 🙄. Face it. There is less freedom in China than most countries on Earth.
I'm specifically talking about the paranoia considering China's social credit score. I never said our societies were the same, I was simply stating how my society in Canada has many ways people are held accountable to a form of 'social credit score'. Here's a few more examples: => car insurance is required to drive a vehicle. The vehicle is required to have a VIN number. The cars owner is tracked at all times, and that owner is responsible for any accident. Your insurance rates go up if you have accidents. (Sounds like a capitalist social credit score) => When you start a job, you must give them your Social insurance number. This will track your employment history, Canadian pension plan, etc. You must have this to work. If you make more money in a lifetime, you are deemed to have a better retirement. => When you travel internationally you have a passport. This passport expires every few years. Unless you make the effort to renew (ie good social standing) than it expires. * I can honestly think of many example... And this is just for fun. I don't mean to get people upset. I am simply thinking outloud to the TH-cam comment thread for fun. If you aren't having fun, don't worry about it. 🖖 PS I never said that China's behaviour was justified in any way.
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Bull Shitting. As a Chinese person who used to live in Xian China, before massive surveillance program, I got rubbed every 2 years and my bicycle was stolen 3 times a year. With massive surveillance, order has been improved and I feel much safer in China. I have not been stolen or robbed ever since.
This keeps people accountable for their actions. Unlike in the USA where you can get away with shoving old people, breaking car windows for theft. You’re brainwashed by western media
@@上野勇-j1p you're brainwashed by a authoritarian regime that plauged the planet, plauged an entire religion and is now prosecuting them, which is accounted by satellite imagery, documents, and hundreds and thousands of testimony. The only people who are kept accountable are those who defy Xi's name or regime. Thousands of people of all classes are disappearing in China/Asia because they speak out one word on the govt and come back and say how great they are. The Chinese tend to think America is oblivious to china's actions over the past decade and think we believe every bullshit excuse, you're brainwashed and controlled by your GOVERNMENT SPONSORED MEDIA. If you comment anything in spite of the Chinese regime, you'd get snatched in a hot flash of a second
@@masonc4919 I’m not Chinese. I’m Japanese and I live in Japan. I was educated in the United States. All I’m saying is you shouldn’t worry about surveillance happening to you if you follow the rules. It’s simple follow the rules and you can live normally. Why is that difficult for Americans to just follow the rules.
@@上野勇-j1p i can agree so on that, many people are reckless here. But it's the aspect of privacy and personal security. it's not humane for an authoritarian power, especially one that is known for human rights abuse, to harness a power so greatly as to have location, lifestyle aspects, friends, contacts, every life detail on track record. It's not safe for humanity.
I'm still on the boat where if it's in public domain, then it's public. Like Elon's private plane, people can track where ever he travels as it's public data. People are already recorded when they shop, the stuff they do on the internet is all tracked. Nothing out of the ordinary.
Exactly, they act like journalism will be the revolution. Who cares if they track dissenters. I care about WHY they feel the need to track. Unless we deal with the why, then this is probably the future
I hate that it’s a judged class and a judging class… there shouldn’t be people who are considered “better” than other people. We are all the same no matter what and we need to all embrace that and work together
Yet if you told Americans that "conservatives " need to be watched so they don't protest, then Vice would be saying how good this is, and the comments would be eating it up.
@@Gurziak people like you are the problem. You don't agree totally with something so you box it into something that your against. You can't category surveillance. I'm sure you have something lined up to attack my thoughts with... So go ahead. Attack away
No talk on the NSA's practices throughout this video 🤔? Stop playing corny sound bite effects to get your message across. It's a shame elitists throughout the world participate in this racket. We shouldn't turn a blind eye to our homeland. Lots of propaganda by vice. These bad actors in China 🇨🇳 can't look at America as an example of a place where its citizens are not surveiled 24/7. We have to change before calling out other charlatans. Chinese terrorists that harass the weigers need to be dealt with. In the states we have plenty of terrible police officers that need to be in mental asylums instead of getting immunity and big paychecks.
@@jksezhey1 comparing nsa surveillance to what the ccp does is like comaring rocks to mountains. and what the ccp use it for differs greatly from what the nsa does china literally created its own internet so it can control its citizens easier, making the open internet illegal to acess. The things the ccp does with their surveilance is disgraceful. in china you dont have freedom to speak your mind or to act how you want. when the people of china tried to protest for freedom of speech Tiananmen square massacre happned. do you just assume everyone is from the USA? because I'm not. USA got its problems but it is compared to most countries as free as it can get, with a democratic system where people can speak their mind. i assume your just part of the 50cent army though.
@@karatehit 50 cent army? What the hell is that? In regards to your statement I'm merely pointing out that Americans are surveiled 24/7. There are roughly 2.5 million people rotting in jail here in prisons that produce the worst offenders possible. It's a disgrace that agents in China take oppression to a new dimension. It's absolutely terrifying. If it's true that Weigers are being put in concentration camps then it needs to cease immediately. I believe in diplomacy. That will happen when governments are abolished and no longer needed.
This is almost comical. Do you have a credit card? Do you use the internet? This has been going on for a quarter century. This was not only inevitable, but 100% predictable.
They have been saying that the last 20 years…hasn’t happened and won’t happen as long as America continues to innovate as well as continued strengthening of its democracy
Forever grateful for my parents for immigrating to North America when they were young. They knew about how messed up China is so they escaped. Now my whole family's here (including all my extended family members). I will never claim myself to be Chinese. It's just embarrassing.
I've got some bad news for you bro... might wanna check into a guy named Edward Snowden. Yes there are places that are worse than the US, but there are many places that are better
Unlikely with Russia still in the picture, and the only thing that keeps them together is the US. When the US is gone they will duke it out against each other.
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Also, once the other countries are buying these products and are indebted, they run an extremely high risk of having their supposedly top notch security and military systems hacked into. They are running the risk of using against them and overthrowing their country in an unwillingness of surrender, lawlessness, chaos and by leaving the country completely vulnerable and unavailable to function as it once was able to.
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I mean as bad as it is, at least China isn't hiding it (or at least doing a good job). I am actually more worried about what personal data large private corporations like Facebook and Google have collected on individuals around the world. There is a clear incentive for private companies to do so illegally and discretely because it allows them to financially and politically control not just their own country but, people around the world.
The difference is, in China, people get arrested, they disappear, and its used to commit genocide. Its affects where you live and work through "social credit system". Did you even watch the video?
@@tubester4567 The similarity is, in both the US and China, people get arrested, the US can make anyone disappear without the need of justification, even well concealed foreign figures like General Suleimani won't stand a chance and the intelligence is also used to commit genocide on foreign countries like during Vietnam war (my Lai massacre) and the modern middle East. The very privileged foundation you are standing on is built off of genocide of innocent indigenous people and people around the world. Did you even study American history?
@@tubester4567 United States has the biggest prison system ever in existence... The American credit system also prevents people from ever being able to purchase a car or home. If you go to school with a loan you become a debt slave for years with thousands of dollars of debt. Don't get me started on the healthcare. You are brainwashed 😆
The Canadian government is doing this same thing right now at the Ottawa protests. Seized the bank accounts of anyone who donated to the truckers. Our future is dark.
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@High Level there's this lovely place called a mental home and I think you should check yourself in for a permanent vacation stay. Gracias.
When you going to do a video on the US NSA surveillance state that literally monitors every person in the US and most peoples around the world?? Or you just going to keep pushing more anti China war propaganda?
The footage in the first few seconds of this video is not actually from Xinjiang. I've seen this debunked claim on reddit and stuff but I'm surprised to see it on a news site that takes itself seriously. Could you correct this?
@@farzanamughal5933 where's the footage from?
@@farzanamughal5933 it's all propaganda! It's not even believable but yet people do. These claims have been debunked but people just believe it because it comes from these "reliable sources".
“Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.” -Snowden
Brilliant 👏
If you have nothing to say, your not human because your brain neither wants or needs, or desires.
This stuff can be used for good only problem is most people are not good, especially ones with power.
I think if ur home remains your sanctuary then anything else is like this then I think it's fine for example in Australia u are allowed to be racist in the privacy of your home but u cant in public. Alot of crimes have been discovered and perpetrators arrested, an interesting example in the UK a man was found to be stabbing cats and was caught on camera a horrible crime in itself what if it had escalated and he decided it was time to kill people? the biggest issue in my experience is the huge amounts of data that has to be crawled through by an analyst so its reactive rather than proactive in terms of finding criminal activity. The con would be is the government uses it against you or trys to discredit you and that happens a lot in any government form. The question is does the good outweigh the bad? I think it does to a degree.
@@cengizali5361 yea and various Chinese empires have controlled Mancu, Tibet, Xinjiang, Mongolia, Vietnam over the years. Just because they controlled a bit of land for a bit of time, doesn’t mean that it’s theirs. If that was the case, then Hong Kong will still be British
All of a sudden, people who consciously live off the grid don't seem paranoid or crazy anymore
I prefer China way of monitoring using the CCTV cameras than the sneaky way of spying on citizens like USA and many European countries .
@@urbandiscipline8858 did you watch the video? China does ALL the above.
@@rukus9585 What he was trying to say is that at least China is honest about it , they don't deny it meanwhile US ........
@@johnssmith4005 because CN controls medias, public opinions, jurisdiction...etc. by a single party.
they don't need to worry about oppositions in the country, and they can just ignore oppositions abroad. The Only thing they need to do is to claim "it is in the public interest".
Every government wants control, they are nothing different.
The problem is that living off the grid doesn't spare you, and isolates you from participating in and influencing society. It's a walkover.
Everyone is about 15 years too late.
If the public knows about all this, imagine how far they’ve actually gone.
Yep. Funny enough I was explaining this to my classmates when I was 14. I'm really dumb in many aspects but that was something I understood really well early on. It came from my way of thinking about the world where I wonder why things are how they are and why things are where they are. I'd look at surveillance cameras and wonder who was on the other side looking at me. I was in my freshman year of highschool at the time. The early web was really cool because the only incentive people had to put information on there was be nerdy and share it. So.. I could trust a lot of things about the world. I knew 2008 was coming in 2006. That was a really bizarre experience. I of course knew all about the NSA. I remember the very day 9/11 happened. What did except all this would come to?
I was based in the UAE around 2010 and filmed many closed-door meetings for HUAWEI during that time. It was all about future (which is now) government-level surveillance technologies. There were often delegates from the Middle East and African countries attending those meetings. They were demonstrating technologies like VPN tracing, face recognition, biometric data analysis. I had to stop working with them after realizing what was all that about. It's chilling to see many of those have become reality now.
Nah they suck bro
Canada has been doing in its airports. And it has admitted it.
Let’s just say, “we the people” can stop their plans no matter how much the “we the people” tries, especially they👁know how the brain works and how to manipulate by indoctrination and brainwashing and us e the “we the people” against each other, perfect example BLM and Antifa and everything are right under “we the people” noses but still the “we the people” refuse to believe and ignore the truth.
Social media in itself has evolved into nothing more than a monitoring / surveillance system.
My only question: is it more lucrative as an advertising platform, or a blackmail tool that is capable of compromising any politician?
Agreed, the fact that we are being pushed personalized contents anywhere we look IS an evidence that we are already being surveilled.
Anyone capable of fetching those data can easily gain even more personal information about us........
Right… The ones who designed it weren’t sitting there thinking, how can Google or search engines serve the people… The whole time it was designed to serve them, do you get it now… It was done in reverse under your nose intentionally
Both are evil in my opinion. The steeping stone to social media being used to spread propaganda was Yelp. Companies started paying for fake reviews. It wasn't long before they figured out they could do alot more. It's actually pretty scary. We need some type of data collection laws asap.
They do far more than this China we shouldn't allow them anything they don't allow us.
Like buying property.
Social media has done more harm than good (although the good is substantial as well)
1984 wasn't a fiction book, it was a future documentary.
...and it seems like a good chunk of the US think it's a great idea. I've never seen more calls for censorship or calls for punitive actions.
so true bestie
@@blurglide yep, major US parties are censoring their own members for having views that don’t agree with their own.
Science fiction has a way of predicting the future... Unlike fantasy... One day the idea of going to the moon was science fiction, or even flight. I see George Orwells future making more sense after a total collapse of society OR how the relationship between earth and its colonies may go if we get to populate the galaxy...
I hated that book and especially hated that I HAD to read it, for school. But I remember thinking it was a good thing that everyone is made to read that book as now there's no way the people would ever allow something like that to happen!
Imagine my surprise...
I love how this episode makes it appear as if the us gov is entirely against this when they literally have an entire agency dedicated to doing this to their own citizens. Even passed a law to do it. Just completely ignored that.
Can you elaborate a little
Yeah instead of talking all that show us the law and the bill
It’s hilarious really
everything Snowden revealed. Western democracies are spying on their own citizens, or spying on their neighbor countries on behalf of those governments.
You can thank in part that traitor and NSA LIAR General James Clapper. We are doomed. Zero liberty.
If it goes on like this, we all share this future…
It’s too late I’m pretty sure it will happen…it’s just a matter of time.
Not the US lmao
The fbi literally murdered black activists in the 60ies an the nsa literally got caught spying on everyone in America
Indeed.
@@rauljrlara9994 what makes you say that?
Vice. We need more on this. We need EVERYTHING on this topic.
-edit Thx everyone for the suggestions for more info on this, much appreciated :)
SERPENTZA is another good source for information like this he's gone in deep on the topic.
@@ChaseTheStreamer I'll go check them out, thx :)
@@ChaseTheStreamer ima definitely check that page out to
when we used to live in caves, starving and chased by animals?
Watch Russel Brand.
Your welcome 🙂
The fact that we get free documentaries on TH-cam by VICE News is truly a gift. 👍
Mind control
@@lucidity28 no
Yee because you are the real product
Keep talking like that theyll realize youre actually dumb enough to pay for it.
@fzkjut explain why you think that
Worst part most people think it's doing them a favour.
People are complicit in their own slavery brother
I mean it could. If you used it to spy on the people suppressing you. Aka us government
Reverse uno card control them.
yep: it's ridiculous how often people are against what is actually in the best interests
@@AdventureSam Definitely the greatest misfortune to themselves, and humanity as a whole.
“The first duty of a man is to think for himself”
― Jose Marti say no to government surveillance .
Lol famous anti-imperialist Jose Marti would see through this imperialist propaganda.
@@DZ-hh5dw what? Lol
@@jamfd3s788 This video is nothing but lies meant to preserve american hegemony. US hegemony is dying, specifically because china is able to undermine it's imperialist foreign policy relations with its 'mutual development' based foreign policy. The American state and its allies are going into survival mode in order to protect this hegemony. Don't fall for this nonsense.
China Looks like the western world post pandemic, hence say no to vax pass and all other crimes against the people happening in the west.
@@ross-kennedy what crimes are happening in the west?
My bosses at my work record all of their employees conversations and activities during all hours. They use this to discipline their employees and find out if people are sharing discontented views on the place I work for. I've seen my coworkers reprimanded for precieved issues that they have been recorded doing and saying when no managers are in the building. One of my coworkers who works with children was reprimanded for not doing her job when in actuality she was just not in view of the cameras when she took the children outside for activities which is a completely normal thing for her to do in her job. Theres a certain Orwellian feeling everytime I enter work even when I am not on the clock. Furthermore, the utter incompetence of the people using the cameras to spy on their employees is very concerning. The truth of the matter is that a lot of the employees are disgruntled with their employers and share those opinions when taking breaks and this has been my experience with every job I've ever had. The difference is is that they are listening. Its oppressive and should be illegal. They are not the government but it is still a violation of our right to free speech. "Oh you dont like it , quit."? Well, most of us need our jobs and are barely hanging on as it is and have no other options as we live in a small town. If you read this and support what I'm saying give a like and tell me how I can get this to stop. I'm thinking full staff walkout in full view of the surveillance equipment.
You should post this to r/antiwork. It's exactly what the subreddit is for
@@wafflegirl1863 yep, And he also needs to .... UNIONISE!!!!!
If only we could unionize.. most of the people who work there are just out of high school and college And those that aren't like myself are too afraid to lose their jobs to take action. The history of making complaints at my work is that if you step up you get manipulated in to thinking you're in the wrong, ignored, or treated poorly for challenging authority. I've even been talked to rudely and treated like a truant child for having to take a sick day due to a serious medical condition I have been battling with for years. This was followed by workplace gossip started by my own boss to make me look disingenuous. Furthermore, my coworker has repeatedly been told that her job is "not really that important" and that they are "really doing you a favor" by letting her keep her position. She goes around every day at work at her wits end hoping that they do not decide to fire her. I've told her that they were probably just trying to mess with her head but she is young and doesnt understand how manipulative employers can be to their employees. They do all this and watch our every move making it any extremely oppressive place to work where everyone fears that they will lose their jobs or have their private lives and conversations become public knowledge. I have talked to my boss about my medical condition only to find out the next day the WHOLE STAFF knew every detail of that very private conversation that was made clear to the listener that is was VERY PRIVATE. I'm scared that if my medical condition prevents me from working I will be fired or have my reputation ruined as it is (as I have sai d) a small town and most everyone knows each other.
My previous employers had security cameras all over the office, including several in the break area covering all angles that even made it possible to zoom in on an employees phone screen if they were on break. I would entirely leave the property to make any personal phone calls. They would watch the video feed obsessively to the point they would call the office when they were out of the country to complain about something they saw when in reality they often had no true reason for concern.
There is a weakness to all of these survalience systems, they can be Hacked. Try to find a good hacker to hack into your jobs survalience system and make it maunfution or override. This is the only way you can truly take a stand, or you can quit and try to convince people to join you and make your own company. If you want to do something about this try doing those two things, hopes you see this and it helps you.
We need a constitutional amendment which guarantees the right to digital privacy…
You are correct, but...
Too late for many, especially in america. People such as Snowden and Braxman have proven just how bad it is.
Yea with the patriot act, good luck with that
"Stop quoting laws, we carry weapons"
reas the amendments SMH this stuff is already illegal in the US china is its own sovereign nation
@@ronaldckrausejr7762 not too late, European Union has already instituted lots of regulations to protect digital privacy
the fact that they can pull this off at such a large scale sets such a terrifying precedent..
Its fake bro LMAO
@@mikekemp5863 Except you can see the re-education camps from space and not only that you can see the "Kindergarden" camps where they took all these people's children from satellite imagery. Then there are the hundreds on mainlanders who know about it, the refugees who escaped, some of which had babies aborted. The only fake thing here is mike kemp the fool.
Come on guys, this is a literal nightmare. We are living in some sort of distorted reality. Total madness.
This is byond nationalism, authoritarianism, its totalitarianism which no individual can turn away from. A system which works only for it's own continuation, even if all members need to suffer. It owns the people and uses them against each other in a cycle that cannot be broken.
The final goal of the CCP is not only world domination, but complete control over every human being on this planet.
Right now they're practicing exactly this on their own population, but their final goals are much bigger.
This sci fi movie dystopia, I never took it seriously.
Well, this has changed in the past few years.
Now it seems perfectly possible if not likely, because I don't know if anyone can stop the CCP.
Also beyond belief *😎⚽
Stop throwing around meaningless buzzwords.
Having surveillance to protect your country from threats against the People's Democracy & Leadership must be under all pretexts protected, no matter the way.
@@puab9554 Gook nukem
@@a564-c3q yes, it is the CCP who has more than 800 military bases arround the world? It is the CCP who is always waging direct wars and proxy wars around the world and is always inventing an enemy?
Or, wait, it's the USA!
Who wants to return to a time when tech didn’t literally run everyone’s lives?
In a heart beat I would love to go back.
Nothing is stopping you from deleting TH-cam and social media. Get a physical job and live in a small town. You would think farm&ranch are so hard to find in Texas or some other places.
Patt Engaging with government and healthcare requires engagement with the system, no way out, not easily anyway.
Don't use social media if you don't like it. Facebook stock dumped 20% today because their user numbers are down. That's how you get them to change.
There's a horror news about Metaverse
I do find it ironic that I am watching this on a platform owned by Google. No need to force people here in the US, we sign up for it by not reading the terms of agreement, and even if we do, we still have no choice. At the end of the day it is no different to me.
Data privacy needs to be considered a human right: policymakers are too slow, too often
From USA to Israel to Russia and China. They all do it, and will never accept to stop doing it.
Most don't understand the problem. And the grey zone between personal privacy and collective measures to combat a global health crisis need to be addressed.
@@kevinw2592 started back with the terrorist attacks. Some shaddows was financing and organizing them.
Create the fear problem and provide the safety solution...
Billionaires are faster and control everything. Politicians are the extra players outside the team.
They're about 15 years to late to prevent this.
this world is scary. i can't stand this. time for the people to fight back.
@Ahhh Haaa These westerners are hypocrites. They only care about human rights issues if you give them competition. This is about Caucasian hagemony.
@@neilnelson7603 🥱
@@neilnelson7603 Oh you're so predictable in your speech. Please go home and let the adults talk.
@@Johnny2Starz Truth hurts, huh?
@@neilnelson7603 hurts? Truth is becoming illegal. Speak up while you can.
Our politicians in the US are so lost and disconnected these companies could walk in under the guise of an American police security firm and they would do nothing.
Americans worship money and worship those with it, they're all millionaires
Basically, this simply means that the upper 1% can get away with doing anything that they please and the rest of us can't do squat.
Reform,block camera use the mouth cover and use bicycle. This is known since 1950 because of the spy fear and Unabomber. So its just old ideas
The people behind the cameras are the ones that need to be watched
You mean the people from Vice or you just mean people that have access to the surveillance need to be watched?
Soon enough there won't be anyone behind the camera.
@@zinjanthropus322 in soviet russia, you are the camera.
VICE is a mouthpiece for Jacobin, left-wing biased news and its always been evident. Sure their global news footage and reporters appear solid, but when it comes down to it they slant all of their videos to put the victimhood on the corrupt, while claiming anyone from opposing views is a threat in some way. Playing coy with a soft tone and attributing a groups of people to uncaring subhuman pawns.
@@xSP3CTREx are the Uyghurs “corrupt people”? This video is defending them and criticizing the Chinese government. You have a point with some of their coverage, but they’re in the right here.
One joke: No one protested when Snowden revealed that there was no surveillance around the world
People only protest or rebel when their bottom line like food and water is threatened and even then its not guaranteed (North Korea) otherwise you can boil them slowly like frogs and they wont even acknowledge they should do something.
No one protested because they're education system has failed them and thst is by design
Why the hell Athletes went to the Winter Olympics blows my mind... This should have been Boycotted 100%
Money.
100%
Money and fame?!
Because they sold out, just like the assholes who buy Huawei products because they are "cheaper". As long as people keep betraying everyone for a short term "benefit" wr are fucked. Stop supporting Capitalism.
Capitalism.
It’s time to wake up and stand up against governments like these!
Why dont you start with the united states then
@@pedroRaiden nah... people around the world needs to start with china first....
lmfao, who are you to judge what governments should exist or not? You think USA doesn't surveil their people? lmfao
@@pedroRaiden careful you sound like a Drumpfer
AGAINST AMERICA NR.1!!
For my own, I really doubt that the boycott of the Winter Olympic games in Beijing by the major Western nations is driven by any kind of sensitivity of their governments about the Huighurs condition ; I think it's a power play that is going on : Western firms have underestimated the Chinese in highly advanced technological fields like AI, quantum computers, 5G and so on, and now that they realise they are about to be left behind there is a backlash against China. I am not naive about the surveillance society China is developing at the expense of its own citizens but I think the Western democracies are doing the same, sometimes in a more subtle manner, but sometimes not so ; just think about the many restrictions and controls governments have brought in, in the name of the pandemic...
Then you know nothing about China, my boy.
Coming from a neighbour that has been facing Chinese acts of aggression since always, India.
@@DigjamSarmah the US is very aggressive.. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan?
@@smurfyyy96 two points:
a. The US government is no lesser maleficent, as Kissinger once famously said,"Doomed he be who considers US his ally" or something like that.
b. The good thing, atleast the US is a democracy and you are free to criticize, bring into notice the illegalities through a fair, open social/news media. Try that in China, you will disappear in minutes. All that we know about Uighurs and Tibetan crises is despite of China trying to hide them. Imagine what would break out if suddenly China becomes a free world tomorrow. China is a glorified, richer version of North Korea, nothing less.
Come any day, the citizens of the country you just mentioned will prefer to be a citizen in the US rather than China's.
Thank you vice for actually covering this unlike the other people who get paid by winnie the pooh to turn a blind eye.
Way less worried about autocracy or dictatorship in the developed world.
What we need to be worried about is technocracy, giant corporations like Google/Amazon/Meta/etc...they are the ones to be afraid of.
Especially corporations (like Vice does here) who try to shift blame to the government, when tech companies are being busted for this kind of spying every year.
You think winnie the Pooh is the only one doing this?
Thought vice was owned by Disney?
people only turn a blind eye on NSA not winnie the pooh
Lmfao you're going to get arrested now
I saw this coming years ago, but so have global governments. They are all in.
No you didn't...
It's a power control
It’s time for us to have a global united uproar. If every citizen joined the good fight we could take down these scums easy
@@pauliethehead he did, but only because it was easy to see because it was already happening. it's not they only invented surveillance states in the 2020s.
The "great reset" coming.
This has been going on, it's crazy how no one believes you until vice makes a video saying the same thing
Can everyone on both sides atleast agree that we need some type of regulation to limit the amount of data that can be collected?
Or, just to not allow this to happen in the first place. You can't technically "limit" or "regulate" the amount of data, or the intent of usage.
Yeah the people can... Not the politicians.
lol there is online sites and companies are breaking tbe law everday but you better notbootleg the new spider man lol people priorites are all messed up
Doesnt matter. U think they will abide ? Lol look what Snowden said all those years ago.
@@LiKWiDjay it's more than just our government you have to worry about. Foreign governments use it for targeted propaganda campaigns. Companies use it to manipulate consumers in mass scale.
Most of the video sounds like it's all China's fault. It is as far as their own country is concerned, but we should also be blaming our own governments for buying and wanting to use such system rather than just China for selling them.
Nope, no critical thinking allowed. Just China bad china bad china bad
@@zengmaxxing It sets a bad example, and wants other countries to emulate it. It deserves criticism. Our own countries get much more criticism from our own people than China would ever tolerate to circulate publicly.
@@zengmaxxing ok communist spy
@@zengmaxxing exactly
Did you watch video? They already mentioned those countries , not just china
For those who aren't afraid of surveillance, it's basically like having someone over your shoulder watching you browse the web, you're never safe, although it feels like you are.
at least ppl in China are safe from getting shot *cough US*
"We are doomed to wake up one (dark) morning and wonder when and where our freedom died"
Sibel Edmonds
Sorry but West are enovius about China success and power
@@hermeslein6614
ye...But that is not my point.... 😁
Read : Orwell -1984
@@hermeslein6614 ? Maybe the governments are, but there’s a reason you don’t ever hear about people who want to move to china.
@@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274 i dont think you ever step out of your home for once bruh
@@iamhardwell2844 ? You projecting?
No human should hold such power , and not just governments but those that want to control government for their own greed
My thoughts exactly
let alone a fat honey eating bear from the hundred acre forest, sheesh
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@@JamesBrown-mi5qf Again, literal state propaganda. You need some better training CCP bot
@@hotcheetoman86 th-cam.com/video/h3hwO4r60eI/w-d-xo.html
What a great generation I was born into. In my 20s I’ve had to deal with quarantines, inflation and not being able to afford a house like my parents did my age. And now China and Russia are getting more unhinged.
Don't forget the: can't afford college and that 1 million dollar heart surgery
Stop being depressed and quit making up excuses. You think our parents life is the same as ours? Wage during there times was $6 note it’s $14 at the same place.
@@andriod8014 PPP, inflation, put that into context
You deal with inflation every year but yes i agree, corporations are taking over because they have all the money which means they get thr final say.
Take zillow buyong homes for 50% over the askin price, how are normal people supposed to compete with these companies? Im glad the stock market was doin well guys, the rich get richer and steal your time then funnel your wealth in to their own pockets.
Its gonna get worse
@@andriod8014 how can we make progress when people like you keep dragging us back? Since you dont know what you are talking about, Can you kindly shut up please
The UN should come up with guidelines on to what extent/limit surveillance is necessary to enable the citizens to be happy and healthy. That limit should not exceed. And UN countries can sign a legally binding treaty on abiding by it.
That's not gonna happen. The people who would be in charge of that WANT us under surveillance.
Useless Nations is controlled by their lobbyist
While this is nice in theory, it's not realistic. What happens when the countries that sign decide to break that treaty? What are the consequences? Nothing. Trade/ economic sanctions? Doesn't work when it's major powers like the US or China. Many countries are reliant on them for trade. Many countries which are part of the UN have already broken plenty of human rights agreements. Nothing happens. It's all for show.
Forget the UN, they're useless, we need to bring The North Atlantic Treaty Alliance (NATO) into this, or better yet, the whole world
the US would never be ok with that.
their tactics are just like coercive control in abusive domestic relationships. canada is working on a bill to make coercive control illegal, as they've done in england and wales.
I highly doubt that that bill would be passed in Canada as the Canadian government spy’s on all of its citizens as they’ve admitted
With every surveillance camera you take off, you move one step closer to a good future where privacy is not a empty word
#cameoff
Also gained more crime, just like the U.S.
Constant wars. And the poor are the casualties. It's nerve wracking
The more people who learn how to program the better chance we have against these cynical governments
Please explain? Genuinely curious.
@@J.Doza46 hackerboy watched too many movies. He wants to hack the system.
Balzac Waxhoff More like terrorist of the new world, unless somebody manages to create a virus that can infect every A.I on the planet and turn them against there will into human killing machines. I don’t think the title of god really suites the hackers of tomorrow. Now with A.I on the rise, it’s inevitable robots will take over sometime later in the future. If somebody can create this virus then I think that individual is worthy of the title, “God”.
@@tabaxazuaq5456 HACK THE PLANET , HACK THE PLANET !
@@175dee9 makes you wonder why Elon musk is so hell bent on building a robot to fight the AI robots he really think it will happen
I've lived in a surveillance state nearly my whole life. I'm 20 now. It's called the USA and the legislation that allowed it is The Patriot Act.
This is getting worse at an increasing pace.
The technology is getting better and cheaper at the same time, the required computing power is getting available and cheaper as well and last but not least smart AI makes this just so many times more powerful.
At the same time AI is evolving at s rapid pace as is the computing power for AI.
In a few years surveiling a 1.4 billion people population will be even easier, cheaper and much more sophisticated as now.
Because of the points above as well as further increasing camera density at increasing camera quality at decreasing camera prices.
so much fear mongering in one comment lmao. are you afraid of going outside too?
Chinese Surveillance? These capabilities and systems have been in use by several countries for a while. Yes, the potential for abuses are enormous. Unfortunately, I don't think the fact will change anything anytime soon. Things are just getting more complex. Soon we'll see robots on the streets linked to the same systems.
every europe country using these surveillance system to spy its citizen since the technology exist and vice make sure you dont know about that
Hilariously the tech had been around for a while but Chinese Surveillance is more a testament to centrally planned economies and its infrastructure building rather than its specific intent on tracking. If the US gov could spend as much money as they wanted they'd put cameras everywhere.
@@Furiends Interesting point. Yes, the investment in the infrastructure is key. I just don't appreciate the bias and feeding of bickering with other countries for things many do. This is not productive and only helps feed distrust, lies, hate. Public opinion manipulation. We must do better.
Seeing a picture of our prime minister on the politicians list really filled me with confidence
Technology is turning the human future into a sci-fi nightmare.
nope
yup
“This isn’t freedom, this is fear” -Captain America
😬😬😬
Quoting fictional people…kinda cringe bro
@@smhmyhead2215 there's applicable messages in the fiction for a reason. That wasn't cringe. At all.
@@smhmyhead2215
Lol triggered sheep 🐑
@@smhmyhead2215 you definitely failed every literature class by that response
If you're currently peacefully protesting in Canada you should show this to everyone you know.
Koh Samui, Thailand, famed for its tourist industry, has state of the art Chinese surveillance everywhere!
It really makes me sad that this is just now coming to the front of conversation. I started talking about this kind of thing when the Patriot act was signed. Privacy around the world is practically gone and I can't see it changing. Onward to the 22nd century and may the odds be ever in your favor lol.
funny enough, the white conservatives and liberals appalled by this video were probably fine with the patriot act when it was passed.
The only way out is probably making your own spaceship and finding a new planet
Vice should also cover the technological industries ongoing surveillance and manipulation of information right here in America. Search browsers are not a public library like we all assume. They are marketing machines that feed you the product, the information, that profits them the greatest if you accept it as true.
At least America won't put you in concentration camps for criticizing your government. This government does that.
One of the few things I agreed with Trump on was his ban on Huawei
Trump got that idea from Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison. we banned Huwai first, We said origins of covid should be investigated, we said human right there are not fair and as a result lost billions of trade with china, we stood up to china!! whilst the rest of the world is just waking up to it. A nation of 23million agains a country of 1.4billion. Now cause of australia the world is really waking up to china.
@@jasonh289 we all know what China is up to, Australia this Australia that tend to forget China will walk over that country, matter of fact under least than two days. USA will be there long after than if a surprise attack occurs? A pump of emp in the major city’s to stop emergency calls to the world , than take over , Australia may be standing up but should be careful
Trump did everything better look at our country a year later after Biden was elected people swear things were bad then but have no fucking clue what they were saying look at how bad our country is getting
@@listenbro3673 spare me your stupidity and negativity. I said something positive and you turn negative. The world is sick of it
@@listenbro3673 this has to be one of the dumbest comments... 🙄 🤦 ummm 👋 pandemic all because he didnt believe it. All he knew how to do was make empty promises.
Don't worry everyone, we will one day come together and have our time. Be patient, we will figure this out. THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN THEM
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it's cute to think this way, but sophisticated systems like this can break up any kind of opposition pretty fast.
Numbers don't mean anything, or china would have had a revolution years since. Big brother has all the cards, and can read yours
When a frog is slowly increased temperature it won’t notice the difference and will die. I’m afraid that this may happen to us.😒
@@MichaelSnyder1776 I thought big brother had all the cards...how can you have cards?
Wow Vice never fails. Thanks for this video. It’s quite crazy how we’re being watched and monitored so much
The US isn’t perfect but Americans are so lucky we were born here. And we should defend our freedoms.
Actually, NSA and CIA have been doing this type of surveillance since 9/11 on a much more sophisticated level. Lol
@@Zov631 lol yeah they do surveillance but not at this level yet 😂
@@Zov631 not as biometrically sophisticated.
@@Frost-kh9mg oh sweetheart how naive
@@alx8571 sweetie people die to get into this country LOL fact of the matter is the US is the most free country in the world
The right to privacy should be a global human right. This should limit surveillance and tracking online and in person by governments and private orgs.
As human beings we survived for generations without this type.of surveillance. We don't need it. We have to fight against it. Everyone is equal. No one has a right to exercise control over the lives of others.
This video was interrupted partway through by a minute+ long ad for security cameras. Their message was so eerily similar to this video that I watched a full 30 seconds before I realized it wasn't part of it.
wtf
I think someone forgot about Mr Snowden
I was based in the UAE around 2010 and filmed many closed-door meetings for HUAWEI during that time. It was all about future (which is now) government-level surveillance technologies. There were often delegates from the Middle East and African countries attending those meetings. They were demonstrating technologies like VPN tracing, face recognition, biometric data analysis. I had to stop working with them after realizing what was all that about. It's chilling to see many of those have become reality now.
Post your videos!
"Its built into their homes and they are used to it"
Yep, it sums it all up
We have an obligation to brought this to attention of our friends, families, neighbours, everyone. We owe this go future generations.
Reminds me of how Amazon films their workers and has AI systems to look at how quick and efficient their workers are. They even get fired by AI if it detects them being slow.
More worried about American Surveillance tbh
Why
I've come to realise that western society already has similar social structures and surveillance. For many services you need a telephone number these days. (2 factor verification) when it comes to having a bank account... That is tied into our government issued IDs. If someone fails to keep their bank account in good order, you become 'red flagged' as per your credit rating. I could go on...
Yeah sure buddy. Everything's the same, except for the Concentration camps. The actual genocide. The harvesting of organs. Covid itself. I could go on...
Like the us border cages? And the nsa global surveillance?
@@MRAB19971 really the border cages? First of all nobody likes that the government keeps children in cages but they are not killing them and harvesting their organs like they do in China. Mentioning the NSA is pointless, what country doesn't have an intelligence agency or two. Typical propaganda tactic, comparing two sad but ultimately different issues. In the u.s., the problem is because of people trying to enter the country. We actually fly them back to their countries. China has people that want to leave but can not. They can't even travel to their neighboring province because their credit score is too low 🙄. Face it. There is less freedom in China than most countries on Earth.
@@MRAB19971 based
I'm specifically talking about the paranoia considering China's social credit score. I never said our societies were the same, I was simply stating how my society in Canada has many ways people are held accountable to a form of 'social credit score'. Here's a few more examples:
=> car insurance is required to drive a vehicle. The vehicle is required to have a VIN number. The cars owner is tracked at all times, and that owner is responsible for any accident. Your insurance rates go up if you have accidents. (Sounds like a capitalist social credit score)
=> When you start a job, you must give them your Social insurance number. This will track your employment history, Canadian pension plan, etc. You must have this to work. If you make more money in a lifetime, you are deemed to have a better retirement.
=> When you travel internationally you have a passport. This passport expires every few years. Unless you make the effort to renew (ie good social standing) than it expires.
* I can honestly think of many example... And this is just for fun. I don't mean to get people upset. I am simply thinking outloud to the TH-cam comment thread for fun. If you aren't having fun, don't worry about it. 🖖
PS I never said that China's behaviour was justified in any way.
We refuse to sell Dahua, HikVision, etc. This is very scary, and not many people believe it is true, thank you VICE.
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I want the people that litter public place be arrested
@@legokingtm9462 I want you to use your common sense
The only reason VICE is covering this now... is because they know it's too late.
what
Bull Shitting. As a Chinese person who used to live in Xian China, before massive surveillance program, I got rubbed every 2 years and my bicycle was stolen 3 times a year. With massive surveillance, order has been improved and I feel much safer in China. I have not been stolen or robbed ever since.
Yes
Title should be: “Why you should be worried about China.” Period
speaking facts 🗣️
This keeps people accountable for their actions. Unlike in the USA where you can get away with shoving old people, breaking car windows for theft. You’re brainwashed by western media
@@上野勇-j1p you're brainwashed by a authoritarian regime that plauged the planet, plauged an entire religion and is now prosecuting them, which is accounted by satellite imagery, documents, and hundreds and thousands of testimony. The only people who are kept accountable are those who defy Xi's name or regime. Thousands of people of all classes are disappearing in China/Asia because they speak out one word on the govt and come back and say how great they are.
The Chinese tend to think America is oblivious to china's actions over the past decade and think we believe every bullshit excuse, you're brainwashed and controlled by your GOVERNMENT SPONSORED MEDIA.
If you comment anything in spite of the Chinese regime, you'd get snatched in a hot flash of a second
@@masonc4919 I’m not Chinese. I’m Japanese and I live in Japan. I was educated in the United States. All I’m saying is you shouldn’t worry about surveillance happening to you if you follow the rules. It’s simple follow the rules and you can live normally. Why is that difficult for Americans to just follow the rules.
@@上野勇-j1p i can agree so on that, many people are reckless here. But it's the aspect of privacy and personal security. it's not humane for an authoritarian power, especially one that is known for human rights abuse, to harness a power so greatly as to have location, lifestyle aspects, friends, contacts, every life detail on track record. It's not safe for humanity.
I'm still on the boat where if it's in public domain, then it's public. Like Elon's private plane, people can track where ever he travels as it's public data. People are already recorded when they shop, the stuff they do on the internet is all tracked. Nothing out of the ordinary.
I agree. This article is very sensationalised.
Exactly, they act like journalism will be the revolution. Who cares if they track dissenters. I care about WHY they feel the need to track. Unless we deal with the why, then this is probably the future
I hate that it’s a judged class and a judging class… there shouldn’t be people who are considered “better” than other people. We are all the same no matter what and we need to all embrace that and work together
5:31 he said legitimate reasons to surveille citizens ??? WOW
not even criminals but just people ,citizens , slaves of the system
( invisible confusion )
WTF he said I don't understand??
Yet if you told Americans that "conservatives " need to be watched so they don't protest, then Vice would be saying how good this is, and the comments would be eating it up.
@@Gurziak i really doubt that mate
@@Gurziak people like you are the problem. You don't agree totally with something so you box it into something that your against. You can't category surveillance. I'm sure you have something lined up to attack my thoughts with... So go ahead. Attack away
@@Th3Watch3r that's alot of projection
For those who have memory problems: Do you remember when the U.S was caught eavesdropping on Angela Merkel and Brazil's President Dilma Rouseff?
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Love seeing you guys covering this subject vice, alot of your content is garbage nowdays. but things like this is what keeps me subscribed .
No talk on the NSA's practices throughout this video 🤔? Stop playing corny sound bite effects to get your message across. It's a shame elitists throughout the world participate in this racket. We shouldn't turn a blind eye to our homeland. Lots of propaganda by vice. These bad actors in China 🇨🇳 can't look at America as an example of a place where its citizens are not surveiled 24/7. We have to change before calling out other charlatans. Chinese terrorists that harass the weigers need to be dealt with. In the states we have plenty of terrible police officers that need to be in mental asylums instead of getting immunity and big paychecks.
@@jksezhey1 comparing nsa surveillance to what the ccp does is like comaring rocks to mountains. and what the ccp use it for differs greatly from what the nsa does
china literally created its own internet so it can control its citizens easier, making the open internet illegal to acess. The things the ccp does with their surveilance is disgraceful. in china you dont have freedom to speak your mind or to act how you want. when the people of china tried to protest for freedom of speech Tiananmen square massacre happned.
do you just assume everyone is from the USA? because I'm not. USA got its problems but it is compared to most countries as free as it can get, with a democratic system where people can speak their mind. i assume your just part of the 50cent army though.
@@karatehit 50 cent army? What the hell is that? In regards to your statement I'm merely pointing out that Americans are surveiled 24/7. There are roughly 2.5 million people rotting in jail here in prisons that produce the worst offenders possible. It's a disgrace that agents in China take oppression to a new dimension. It's absolutely terrifying. If it's true that Weigers are being put in concentration camps then it needs to cease immediately. I believe in diplomacy. That will happen when governments are abolished and no longer needed.
this is what each one of you are facing . it just depends where on earth you are and how long you got
if you do not rise up and BE FREE
This is almost comical. Do you have a credit card? Do you use the internet? This has been going on for a quarter century. This was not only inevitable, but 100% predictable.
It'll soon become the world's most powerful country, probably during this decade.
According to the bible they being built up to go into WWW3, everyone looses then.....
They have been saying that the last 20 years…hasn’t happened and won’t happen as long as America continues to innovate as well as continued strengthening of its democracy
Nah 😅
it has been since 2010
It already is
Finally some vice content that is actually critical of what is actually going on in the world. You get a like from me. Thank you for speaking out
there's several others out there, search their youtube page.
Forever grateful for my parents for immigrating to North America when they were young. They knew about how messed up China is so they escaped. Now my whole family's here (including all my extended family members). I will never claim myself to be Chinese. It's just embarrassing.
Its like Orwell’s 1984 coming to life. That’s a scary future. Thank God I live in America.
It's here to though...
I've got some bad news for you bro... might wanna check into a guy named Edward Snowden. Yes there are places that are worse than the US, but there are many places that are better
LOL
Thank you Vice for shining more like on the diplomatic boycott of the olympics
Nsa is already doing this. The only thing they don’t have is a large camera network that blankets all cities and towns that they can tap into.
Imagine china being the sole superpower
Unlikely with Russia still in the picture, and the only thing that keeps them together is the US. When the US is gone they will duke it out against each other.
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9:19 what ethnicity is Shalev Hulio ? ? ?
Ohh someone has finally the balls to talk about china? And its Vice?? What is going on??
Also, once the other countries are buying these products and are indebted, they run an extremely high risk of having their supposedly top notch security and military systems hacked into. They are running the risk of using against them and overthrowing their country in an unwillingness of surrender, lawlessness, chaos and by leaving the country completely vulnerable and unavailable to function as it once was able to.
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Government always get too big, there is only the question when will this happen to your country? Stop surveillance camera systems.
So basically, the Watch Dogs videogame series was trying to prep us to fight back against the governments! It will be wise for many of us to learn programming to build our defence system
Wow, I can't believe Vice made a segment critical of China.
then you'd be shocked at how pro US they truly are at their core
I mean as bad as it is, at least China isn't hiding it (or at least doing a good job). I am actually more worried about what personal data large private corporations like Facebook and Google have collected on individuals around the world. There is a clear incentive for private companies to do so illegally and discretely because it allows them to financially and politically control not just their own country but, people around the world.
The difference is, in China, people get arrested, they disappear, and its used to commit genocide. Its affects where you live and work through "social credit system". Did you even watch the video?
@@tubester4567 The similarity is, in both the US and China, people get arrested, the US can make anyone disappear without the need of justification, even well concealed foreign figures like General Suleimani won't stand a chance and the intelligence is also used to commit genocide on foreign countries like during Vietnam war (my Lai massacre) and the modern middle East. The very privileged foundation you are standing on is built off of genocide of innocent indigenous people and people around the world. Did you even study American history?
@@tubester4567 i wonder how you know they disapear? you personally see that or you part of the system?
@@tubester4567 United States has the biggest prison system ever in existence... The American credit system also prevents people from ever being able to purchase a car or home. If you go to school with a loan you become a debt slave for years with thousands of dollars of debt. Don't get me started on the healthcare. You are brainwashed 😆
@@Steven-pi5nf I think you're talking about Israel lmao
Surveillance isn't the problem. The problem is the social credits.
We should send the Canadian Truckers.
George Orwell had it right. That was not fiction
What about the US?
very good journalism. keep up the good work
save gaza save Kashmir but not uighir right
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The Canadian government is doing this same thing right now at the Ottawa protests. Seized the bank accounts of anyone who donated to the truckers. Our future is dark.