I had a boss tell me once, "Your job is to pay for the type of lifestyle you want to live. It should never consume your life. Your family, friends, and well-being are what's important in life." I still live by those words.
It's true. It's just that the concept of work-life balance becomes more of a fairy-tale because affording a decent lifestyle by the materialistic standards that are constantly marketed to us become harder and harder to obtain. America's minimum wage is $7.25. I don't know anyone who can make an honest living making $7.25 for 40 hours a week without some form of assistance.
I've worked in China for almost 5 years and the working hours (mainly for Chinese citizens) is completely insane. People are not efficient nor productive due to exhaustion and mental fatigue. Meetings always last multiple hours and rarely anything gets resolved. The lack of productivity is actually astonishing. For example, people were shocked when I finished a simple task within 1 hour, rather than taking 2-4 hours to complete it. These are results of 996 working mentality, people are just stretching out their tasks as much as possible. I've seen some companies in China slowly adopting 4 days work week or 4.5 days work week, really hoping it continues in that direction, because the younger generation at the moment will never accept 996.
I was so productive during lockdown, finished my work in a fraction of the 8 hour day. Then when we got back to the office, i was done with my tasks in like 4 hours, then i had to sit another 4 hours pretending i was busy, it's stupid... we need to rethink the way work eats our lifetime away
even Chinese companies in the US hold a Chinese work culture. When you complain, their reply is, yeah work culture. Ok, that means tomorrow some Arabic company is going to force employees to wear niqab and follow Sharia law. I am sad companies from abroad bring their cultures instead of following local rules
South Korea used to be like this but they recently implemented many rules to prevent overworking. As a result, they're seeing happier employees, better fertility rates, etc.
Where did you pull that lie from? South Korea currently has the lowest fertility rate in history (0.83 in 2020 and 0.8 in 2021 vs 1.2 in 2010). Sure you get anonymity on the internet but dont make shit up dude.
@@rac4687 They have, if you look at the new data, their birth rate have dropped to a level almost near the birth rate of Japan It's just that they have a higher population so that the situation doesn't seem too bad in the short run.
996 isn't even effective. Productivity dramatically decreases once fatigue overtakes the body. A better balance would actually result in more work being done.
On a factory floor perhaps where efficiency greatly effects productivity. Not so for a receptionist for instance, they can answer the phn and take a message just as well on hour 11. Maybe a mistake here and there. Same with managers, sale people, people in marketing and financials. The slight drop in productivity is far less than the cost of training and employing a second worker. However, on a factory floor or construction or something like that, then yes, once they are tired their productivity will dramatically decrese.
You do not understand.. humans are replaceable. If productivity decreases, you just pick another human with high productivity. There are no human rights. That’s the problem.
@@icecoldchilipreppers They are talking about knowledge workers. Mental fatigue is real. I have worked as a laborer and a tech worker. Tech is much more draining.
I'm a nurse who only has to work 3-4 days a week of 12 hour shifts, and it absolutely burns me out. I can't imagine doing 996, I would literally off myself
The worst thing is that there are many who glorify this practice. Somehow we've gotten to a point where not having sleep, food or any semblance of a social life equates to hard work.
I’m sure it has nothing to do with all that crap entrepreneurs and motivational speakers put out about how you’re not successful because you like sleep more than you like success
As an office worker, I realized that my peak productivity is 6 hours a day - 7 on a good day. We're able to achieve more in 30 to 35 hours a week than in 40+. When I worked 50+ hours, my work was poor quality and had to be redone. Upper management thinks you can have 9 women make a baby in 1 month. 996 is a reflection of poor upper management.
It isn't normal for a healthy adult to only be able to work 6-7 hours a day. Are you overweight? Can you grab handfuls of fat around your waist? If so, that's your problem.
@@jeanlucdiscard2382 I work as a lawyer, and I get the same amount of billable work done working 30 hours a week and a full 40 hour week. I worked 40 hours before covid and now nearer to 30 hours from home. Same amount of billable hours in 2020 as in 2019. It has nothing to do with not being able to work, but I - and many others - are more productive if the work sessions are shorter and more focused.
Working like this does not increase productivity. It actually decreases it. Better to have happy workers with good work/life balance. It increases loyalty and productivity. It never ceases to amaze me when companies don’t realize, that if you treat your employees well and with respect you will go much further.
I *once* worked 70 hours in a week, and this was in a group home where much of the time the children and teens weren't present. My brain was pretty mushy by the end of it. Concentrating for 12 hours a day, even if you have breaks, six days a week as a norm? If you make your employees work like that, you get mush brain results.
agree, if you got a task on wednesday, but you work 6 days a week then you may want to delay it so you will have some work until saturday. but if work at shorter time period then the task will be done few days earlier thus making you more productive.
This type of life style doesn’t just affect the worker, it affects their family too. As a daughter of a single family, I got sent to boarding school because my mom just doesn’t have the time to take care of me, but even when I’m back home during weekends, I only get to see her for a few hours from Saturday night till Sunday afternoon where she would send me to the school bus and I go back to school. Now that I’m an adult, I have realized I was completely neglected and traumatized as a child, but I don’t even really blame her cause could she have done. Because of the lack of family support in my childhood, I grew up being clinically depressed too. It’s honestly such an unsustainable way of working, because even now my mom is still constantly working, even when she is suppose to be resting or on a holiday, she is always answering work calls, replying to work messages
I feel so sorry for you. I hope for you, that you find some peace and happiness from time to time. I have similiar trauma but less intensive i guess. I feel sorry for everyone in China suffering from this unsolvable situation of " giving up the life for living" and i don't now what to do either. Thats really sad
My stomach turned at the end when she's describing how numb she feels. She sounded like someone willing to take their own life just to escape her life. I hope she can find happiness.
I did this 3 year ago. 12 hour for 6 month no rest days. Then i resigned from it. But look back all my co-worker in the company still working like that for more than 2 years. They have friends group. I cannot handle it so numb. Feel like in heel
This video is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STUPID they take a few exceptions and make it as it was rule and idiots without critic power just agree and believe everything is true... PEOPLE WITH INTERNET HAVE NO BRAIN the video is sooooooooo stupid that at 7:31 THE WOMAN IS CLEARLY SPEAKING ENGLISH, but they remove her natural voice, then dubbed in chinese and then subtitle it in english... THE WHOLE VIDEO IS NARRATED IN ENGLISH SO WHY REMOVE THE INTERVIEWED THAT WAS SPEAKING ENGLISH? MISTAKE? no they want to manipulate the speech... dont be idiot STOP BEING BRAINLESS, START PAYING ATTENTION TO THE THINGS MEDIA SHOW YOU, MEDIA HASN'T THE POWER OF TRUTH ONLY THE POWER TO MANIPULATE IDIOTS. DONT BE AN IDIOT
@@rafaellima381 lol, can you even lip read? She’s clearly speaking in Mandarin. Also, if you want to present an alternative argument, then wrote down your sources. Where are the links again that discredit Vice’s work? Vice does their research very thoroughly. Stop being a troll online
Just left mine. 90k a year. They started “forced overtime”. I’m out. I’d rather make less but watch my daughter grow up and be present to love on my wife.
It really annoys me when the new gen being labeled as ungrateful lazy people. Little do they know that the new gen is embracing life more than wealth.I ask couple of youngsters about it and they told me “what’s the point accumalate so much wealth and relying too much on it to enjoy life.” While I do agree money have their significant role in bettering life but if you choose wealth over life then there’s a possibility you will discard life without you know it.
True wealth is intangible, it's immeasurable, it cannot be diminished and can only multiply when being shared. It's only bc people misunderstood the "cause" and the "effect" of wealth. The true wealth of so called really successful people is not in their companies, money, etc. It's in their spirit.
@Brian Mcclung it’s easy to jump into conclusion based on biased perspective. Like I said before, I acknowledged the role of money for a better cause but it doesn’t mean that money itself become our main goal to attain happiness. I lived in the society that value money more than life. I’ve seen lots of my colleagues send their parents to old folks home because for them their own parents are dead weight since they have been groom and taught to only make decision with the interest of money. Try to understand my whole point and stop twisting my statement just because it doesn’t align with your stand. Again, I totally agree the importance of fortune but dismissing the value of life itself?
How do people get the luxury of having a job that gives enough time for personal needs and enough pay to afford everything needed to accomodate it? It feels like people like you are getting paid more than what you deserved or your bosses are charging insane fees to their client in order to afford the wage they're giving away.
It’s sad that I’m watching this video while here in Germany people discussing about four days working week (32h/week) with the same payment. We are living in the same world but the treatment can be so differently, knowing this makes me feel sad.
thats the thing, theres so much data and studies that show that working more than 6 hours a day you become inefficient to the point of being a detriment to your work. But no company no country really wants to acknowledge it. Even 4 days working at 32h/week you still wont be efficient because you'll be working for more than 6 hours a day .
this is heart-breaking, we only live once, all the money in the world means nothing if we're not happy, healthy, and have meaningful relationship with other people
I think the real problem is, basic necessities to live are so high in cost that you have to do the hours to afford them. I've seen this everywhere, especially in boom towns. This is the direction capitalist driven society has headed, investment has drawbacks and it seems to fall all right on the actual workers.
@@adhipramanaoentoro2252 I don't know. I see this homeless guy who is always whistling and skipping down the street like he doesn't have a care in the world.
As an employer i can't see how this would be beneficial outside of "appearances". I've found by being more lax about time off and reducing hours i get much better quality work out of my employees. When we gear up at certain times of the year everyone comes in often staying late without being asked or expected to. Take genuine care of your employees and they'll take care of you
This would be the case if it was just one or a small hand-full of companies. China, SK with new limitations, and Japan, all suffer from many companies that do this. Stretch out your investment and not your money. Take it to America, when I worked in politics for a month, all 90 employees worked 7am -10pm, 7 days a week for either average pay or none at all, due to volunteers. If your work culture is accepted, than there is an underlying problem.
i SHARE THE EXACT SAME SENTIMENT in my company. Pay the team well, give them time for personal growth; passion and excellence is a standard in the work ethos.
I’ve never heard a resume read at a funeral. It’s unlikely your boss will be at your bedside at the end of your life thanking you for working so hard and not taking vacations and not spending time with your family. At the risk of sounding dramatic; when we put the needs of a company before our personal lives, we put our personal lives at risk.
100% agree with you. 99/6 isn't about hard work. Its about greed, war and death. They could care less about their citizens. They make it clear they are only a "human resource." And their vile ways are taking hold in the west right now.
@Hear Hrrh bro success seems nice but it’s worthless in the end what you should do is try to pray and connect with god and try to focus on being happy rather then money god bless you
I am Chinese, I want to say that most companies are not even willing to implement 996, my latest day to leave work is 11 o'clock in the evening, I have a colleague who even works until 2 o'clock in the morning the next day, although Chinese law stipulates a maximum of 8 hours of work, but most companies will not abide by this rule, resulting in many people now think that getting a 996 job is already a good benefit, because most companies will not even give you 996, but there are too many Chinese, which means that labor is very cheap, if I am not willing to do such work, there will be more people who are very happy to replace me, the boss's ambition is too bigI became a tool for my boss to make money.
Can you confirm this? I heard you will see tons of business executives sleeping in the streets, not because they are homeless but exhausted and don't have time to go home.
the craziest part to me is that even though she is working for over 12 hours a day, she's still living in what appears to be a small one bedroom apartment eating microwave noodles. this is so depressing
Exactly. Big city rent is expensive and I bet she’s living month to month. She should get some crap job in the country, buy a little fixer upper house, and ride her bike to work. Maybe rent out a room. Either way, they’re both crap jobs but at least you get to have a personal life in the country. ❤️🤟🏻
@@amazingsupergirl7125 It's china. Living space is nearly impossible to find with reasonable commute unless you want to live out in the boonies and make your 996 into a worse ratio.
this is not just China, its a normalized thing in Asia in general. The burnout and slave-driving of young professionals is so damn depressing, it almost drove me to suicide. You have a population of driven and smart professionals who are pushed to their limit. Eventually I got hired to work for a European-owned tech company and was in shock when I saw my many benefits and all the leaves I could take. My boss and co-workers encouraged me to take many holidays (something I could never do in my old job), I could explore hobbies, and have time to sleep soundly. I can never bring myself to work for a locally-owned company ever again.
@@amberstale2628 maybe the term is new, but the culture has been in existence all across Asia and SE Asia for years. However, some in SE Asia do 996 without realising out of "not minding to work extra hours for the sake of the company" instead of this hard-line type of 996. But it's technically 996 cuz deep down, you know you're doing these extra hours to show you're worthy a keep for the company or else you're replaceable - which you always are no matter what, unless you own the company.
“If you dont do it someone else will.” God i’d hate to be under this manager Edit: wow I didn’t expect there will be so many comments and likes. Guys trust me, i’ve been with these kind of managers and the only impact he had on me was anxiousness, feeling not good enough, burn-out and unmotivated. My current manager understood if i said something is out of my capacity. When my jobdesc suddenly enlarged and i couldnt handle it, she gave me two interns. I still have to do it anyway, i didn’t have to do it alone. Better managers exist, and please be one.
but thats the truth. its only based on a neverending stream of "others" that keep it running! in every job on any place! every boss thinks that way! every single one!!! the really hard ones just spell it out!
damn that saying is so fkn played out they even use it for this?. i have hated it since they also use it for “what you wont do for your man, someone else will” bs 😭 lol
I had a job in the government that nearly killed me. Til this day, I feel like taking that job was the worst decision I have ever made, and trust me that's saying A LOT. I was working with my aunt and so I could NEVER escape work, she would follow me around the office bugging me about whatever bs, then she would call me once I got home continuing to pester me. I wanted to quit working after HUST ONE WEEK!!!! I would cry everyday day omw to work and home, I would go 5 and 6 days without sleeping, I would hallucinate, I blacked out while driving Because I hadn't slept and nearly caused a car accident and when I came to I had no fucking idea where I even was. I couldn't eat I couldn't think, I was the dumbest person in the office and I was certainly always made to feel that way. I had no one to talk to, not friends not family, no one. My family didn't take me serious because they didn't think a job could destroy you the way it did me. it was "JUST A JOB" after all.I had 3, THREE NERVOUS BREAKDOWNS!!!! I absolutely understand what she meant when she said it was invisible torture. I was eventually fired, that job took everything from me. This job ended in 2013 and I'm still suffering with PTSD. A job can absolutely kill you, if the stress doesn't kill you, you'll just end up killing yourself. My heart goes out to ANYONE and EVERYONE who has or is stuck in situations like this. Please know your pain and suffering is valid. You matter, your mental health matters, Please if you can, start trying to find a way to get out. It's not worth it, the money isn't worth it, I know it's easy to say "just quit" but You can't work a job if you're dead, you can't keep a job if you can't think. It's not worth it. My love and prayers go out to anyone who is or was stuck in this situation❤❤❤😢
I can imagine that some YT commentators will slander your post and call you a snowflake and entitled and all that. Thankfully, I know better, from my own bitter experience of the one and only well-paid 'white collar' job I ever held, nearly twenty years ago. Nearly two decades on, and I've still not recovered. I can never again persuade myself to move 400 miles away from my family and land myself in a toxic office full of passive-aggressive workaholics and spend most of the time being criticised and having to redraft the redraft of the draft and guess what my line managers were expecting. I lasted only eight months, then I packed my bags one evening and drove back home without leaving so much as a resignation post-it note.
Meh, the lady defending the pratice is a joke. I used to be one of those guys took, working 80 hours a week. Then boss decided to take the business in a different direction and laid off my entire department at the drop of a hat. Lol working hard for the company. What a joke.
she is so broken its ridiculous. Living in singapore we see some people who are influenced in that direction too and they stop at nothing to make more money even though they hate their own lives, it's ridiculous how much they love money, they don't even spend a dime of it. It looks totally ridiculous and stupid from out here but what do we know, how much does it cost to live in china? All I know is that a lot of folks around me also think its incredibly expensive to live here and save a ton of money when the cost of living honestly isn't ridiculous, its very easy to get trapped in a rat race even if you don't need to be in it.
@@TeRRm0s Yet you make a dumb comment. Currently China imposed a 4-child policy because a lot of young folks don't want to have children anymore. It used to be that everyone was having children but times has changed; China is heading into a downfall and they know it. See PolyMatter's videos about it: th-cam.com/play/PLR5tswn4SFyUOm3QusvlFGbPCCAN_uXnK.html
@@TeRRm0s they would have been 2 billion...chinese are great ppl...they controlled their population without outside pressure ..they are honourable...they decided to control population because they went through huge humiliation at the hand of japanese and UK...god bless chinese culture
I had a friend in Japan who was sleeping 4 hours, had 2 hours free in a day, and basically the rest of his day was work-related activity which included a 4 hour daily commute. He was leaving depressed messages, it wasn't okay. Then I suggested to his that he work freelance like me. He was living in an expensive part of Japan, so he couldn't do that. However, he did find contract based work that paid for overtime and his mood got much better. He stopped posting depressed messages after that.
Studies say that after a 52 hours work week the productivity falls off a cliff, even people working 70 hour weeks still only produce as if they would have worked 52 hours a week. People just starts working slower when the work week is long.
I work 10 hour days from Monday to Thursday, friday and sat I work 12 hour days. Sunday is the only day off. But I'm only scheduled to work 4 days a week but I chose to work the extra days, sometimes 7 days a week😁
@@diamonddogs6037 Do you enjoy it? Or are you trying to save up money or get a promotion. Do you feel tired? I know some people don't need much sleep. My brother has like three jobs just because he likes working.
@@talithasuya8908 I dont need to work long hours. It's just optional for me. I have a strict schedule that I follow through out the week wether its working or personal life, I make sure I complete all those and it becomes just another day. I always lived by if you lived everyday instead of waiting for that weekend to enjoy life then everyday becomes just another day on my calendar. But your bro working 3 jobs, man that's nuts. But props to him.
Man surprised me most about humanity. Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived. -Dalai Lama
My point in a nutshell. Then you will probably get blamed and deemed weak for saying it…because “you are selfish and you want more” or something else…BS 😂
Exactly! This kind of stuff slowly takes over in the West as well. But they give your fruits, and free coffee, to make you feel better about being a corporate slave.
You notice how the woman at the end said "lazy, incapable staff" like those exact words had been said to her multiple times in the past as a derogatory way to motivate harder work?
@@aminboumerdassi2334 I heard this at a Microsoft conference with a gentleman who graduated from a Michigan university. Unfortunately it seems we have moved away from this model, and gone straight to optimizing and min-maxing. I really miss working.
Company bosses, who do little work of their own comparative to what they make, push this propaganda of the "sin of laziness": the idea that being dissatisfied with your job means you're a layabout, that taking mental health seriously is just being weak, that working harder is some noble, selfless goal, despite the fact that they rarely if ever _reward_ that self-determination, _and_ despite the clear, proven negative effects it has on people. Eventually, workers come to internalize this notion and start competing with each other, and using shame as a motivator on each other. Which, you know, benefits the bosses just fine. They convince their workers to work harder without having to compensate them, and they even do it to each other! Until the whole workforce is a neurotic mess that can't sit still, because they're constantly, subconsciously feeling unproductive, when we're _the most productive era in human history._ Just let that sink in for a second. People are genuinely feeling guilty about being unproductive at work, in the year that saw the beginning of *HOBBYIST SPACE TRAVEL.* We're not just talking "technically we make lots of food", we're talking about trillionaires, people who own individually own more wealth, technology, and power than _empires._ And none of that is because people like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk are just more creative and intelligent than anyone has ever been; it's 100% because of worker productivity. It's times like this we all have to remember a certain quote from a certain movie: _You are not your job._
If you also take into consideration the other things she and the other interviewees said, you will see that she has no choice. If you don't work long hours you will be seen as such and if the layoffs come you will be the first to get cut. If there are no layoffs your peers might get a salary increase (albeit not much) or promotions while you don't. Or your employers might decide to fire you and there are a lot of people who are more than happy to take your place. Even if she leaves for another job the work culture will be the same so in order to survive what choices does she have? Unless she gets lucky like the 2nd lady or opens her own business (which might be harder).
If they're incapable, how would adding more hours improve that? Of course, quality doesn't come into it. Yeah, our product is shitty, but you get so much of it!
What surprises me is that they're happy to have people to work these hours or even encourage them to do so. I live in Asia and you see the people here working for long hours but they are extremely unproductive, which actually costs the business more in the long run. It's better to have motivated hard working people in for 4 days a week than tired people who hate their job for 6
I totally agree with you regarding the difference between motivations and productivities. But sadly in my eyes, the gestures are showing more about the hierarchy, domination, and the insecurities of the leaders and companies. That's essentially why I chose to live in the west.
And from a more national perspective, giving people free time means they have more time to pump their money back into the economy through leisure, and this will open up new markets
@@patrickwilliamson29 Japan doesn't have the highest suicide rate, this is some decades old stereotype. Japan is 49th in the world at 12.2 per 100000. Some notable countries above that rate: Russia 21.6, South Korea 21.2, Kazakhstan 18.1, Ukraine 17.7, USA 14.5, Slovenia 14, Belgium 13.9, Finland 13.4, India 12.9, Sweden 12.4
What difference does it make? Damara. Please take this into diplomatic consideration. My whole family is from the American South. Our parents didn't graduate. Our parents fought in battles they had no idea how to navigate. As a result, we never knew our parents. We're not a result of our parents. My parents are still alive and it took me a long time to understand the bullshit they needed years to understand. My mom was head of household and the primary earner. Women were always equal to me. Now I have to make excuses everywhere I go. Fuck you.
In my country, the trucking industry was just like that. If you didn't accept the illegal wages and bad work practices, bosses would say "if I trow the keys in the air, there are 100 other drivers waiting to catch them". 15-20 years later, compnay owners look at how pretty their trucks are sitting in the garages because they have no drivers. But instead of creating decent working conditions, they blame the drivers for not wanting to work.
In India. Study hard in school,have fun in college. Study hard in college,have fun in university. Study hard in university, have fun after graduation. Study hard for job,have fun after being employed. After being employed 24×7 Be ready for Boss call😭
@John Wick Absolutely, People back then would have worked presumably less hours but achieved more tangible and real "rewards" out of it. Such as building your house, or hunting for dinner etc. Actually meaningful stuff. Todays society you're expected to work yourself to sleep, wake up and proceed with working. Most likely in a job that means Nothing to you and actively harms the environment. Then people want to wonder why drug abuse and suicide is perpetually on the rise and todays generation don't have Anything to look forward to in their entire lives. Its fucking fucked.... To put it lightly.
I worked 665 in a warehouse in Texas for two years. Hours were 6am-6pm Monday-Friday. These working conditions are also very common in US. Wall Street guys usually work 7am-7pm Monday-Saturday, sometimes even on Sunday.
What I find so absurd is that people justify 996 with efficiency even though the exact opposite is what happens when you overwork the employees. There are dozens of studies that prove that people with a solid work-life-balance are way more productive than those who basically don't do anything but work. Especially in high-performing jobs this has to be considered.
@@joku6764 WOW you’re so correct! Glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks that. They always tried to put me on antidepressants. But that I never believed that shit would work In the back of my conscience. Now I’m better than ever and now I gotta save my siblings.
@MudLee Our country has a high population count? Doesn't China have something like 1.4 billion people? People are trying to sympathize with China's labor culture and you just want to bash Americans. Get a grip, no American cares what you think.
My uncle passed away, he was SR software engineer at a company. He was young and unmarried, he took his work way seriously and his health very lightly. One day he died in cab due to heart attack while he was going to office.
After his passing, the world didn't stop spinning. His ex-company didn't just immediately go bust either. His user account passwords were reset and his work were parceled out to other employees. Nothing significant happened as a result of this incident.
@@India00171 and the western companies are the only ones that are paying reasonably in India. Not all obviously but most do, if it wasn't for these companies most of the youth would be at home masturbating their life away. Indian companies will pay you half of that with no other benefits.
Investing in alternate income streams should be the top priority for everyone right now especially given the global economic crisis we are currently experiencing. Stocks, gold, silver and virtual currencies are still attractive investments at the moment.
Everyone needs more than their salary to be financial stable. The best thing to do with your money is to invest it rightly, because money left for saving always end up used with no returns.
If you don’t find a means of multiplying your money, you will wake up one day to realize that the money you thought you had, had exhausted. Investment is a ladder to climb the financial wall.
This isn't different from dying in a factory floor, it is just slower and more cruel. The manager says the efficiency is lower for people working less. In fact, it's the opposite. People working too many hours lose themselves into low efficiency habits and are generally too aloof and tired to be able to see and correct those. People can work efficiently for about 30 hours per week. The other 42 are worked shitly. I've done 16h work. It is like 8h, but takes longer.
The Germans discovered this LONG ago. They work 4, 8-hour days. 32 hours a week! That's it. The quality of their work is self-evident, as-is their lifestyle. Asia are merely working themselves into an early grave for the profit of their OverLord Managers. SICK!
16 hour work is NOT like 8 hours at all. I did that once or twice, when I was a security guard, and it was fucking brutal. Your brain only wants to concentrate on doing your job so much then concentration starts to fade, memory problems, willpower drains, potential for depression, start cutting corners on your diet, etc.
@@damienholland8103 I meant in the sense you aren't really working. You are just there. You are still functional in a broad sense, but you might not be for long.
There are numerous studies showing overtime makes you less productive after a couple of weeks. Better to do a sustainable 40 hour week and also have a life outside of work.
that may be true but people should not oppose 996 on the basis of it being inneficient for companies but on the basis of it being inhumane and in violition of human dignity
I am a IT manager, and when someone of my staff attempts to solve a problem with working serious overtime, I kick them out of the office (or try to get them away from the computer in case of hime office). It's way better to have a clear mind to solve a problem. Trying to brute force a solution often just creates more problems (often only visible much later). Nothing against working an hour longer once in a while if you are close to getting something done, but that should be the exception.
@@fn8772 I mean that's the whole point. Working 8 hours a day is kinda useless unless in a customer service position and even than McDonald'sstays open 24 hours a day. Just like walmart.
When will people learn that productivity has Diminishing returns! Productivity is not a function of time spent at work that linearly grows. Good sleep, decent wages, availability of good food, perception, and more intangible things are a factor of high productivity. The biggest productive gains often times come when you are resting and thinking about the problem passively.
I've worked a 995 for an extended period of time. I found the schedule technically manageable; you don't have a life outside of work and you're exhausted both mentally and physically, so you tend to make more mistakes. It's really a terrible way to manage your workforce.
In China its not about productivity, its about the CCP's need to control their populace and prevent any political change in the country. Keep the peasants too busy and exhausted to protest or try to affect political change, keep the middle class happy with luxuries and rising wages so they wont want change, and bribe or bully the upper class into submission. That way no one can try to change the system and the CCP retains total control of the country.
@@arthas640 agreed. And in the West corporations large or small are more and more outsourcing to China or India creating such extended competition to the remaining market that employees perpetuate this nasty cycle by selling their skills on sites like fivrr less than half off!!
@@s7r49 that's one thing alot of people dont pay attention too: they work more but lose more to taxes and start eating out more so they end up making less then they think. I knew a guy who worked a ton on a salaried job at higher pay but didnt have time for dinner or breakfast so he started getting breakfast and coffee each morning and grabbed dinner on the way home and sometimes lunch too so hed be spending an extra $20+ dollars a day just on food. Stress can lead to snacking and make you desire fancier foods as stress relief too
@@elli6432 something like that happened where I live. Estimators in construction made Foreman wages (at the time 10-20% above journeyman wages or about $25-$30/hr) but then wages rose to closer to $40/hr so some people moved to cheaper areas and worked remotely so they could undercut other people. Before long guys out of state in areas with lower cost of living and lower taxes were working for $25/hr when it should have been $40/hr so your choices became work for nothing remotely or find a job in the city and drive 3+ hours a day.
I worked similar hours in Mexico as a debt collector (i bet mexicans know already for what bank) My schedule was 8 to 8. No overtime, meetings after the regular working hours were normal (so any other day i was out at 9 or Even 10). No holidays, not even christmas, get sick? To Bad for You cause the work charge was designed to barely have time to fulfill your duties (a lot of people worked their free days to compensate a sick day), our pay was calculated not by our numbers of one week but an average of 8 weeks, so one Bad day can turn into 2 Bad months, i spend a year in there, 2 co workers died in bike accidents while working in just that period, 13 of My co workers were robbed in that period, My Office had always a shortage of workers, ergo some of us worked even more due to lack of muscle. It was fucking horrible, worst part? The motherfucker that owns the company doesn't give a shit, he mocks people who uses his services, mocks his own workers, Even the ones that die working for him. My advice? No ammount of money is worth your life, 1 year there caused me hypertension, i almost had a stroke AT 30 YEARS OLD.
Jesus christ, a 12 hour day _and_ meetings?! The fucking nerve! Not only are they so incompetent that they can't manage to find time for a meeting in a TWELVE HOUR SHIFT, but if I guess right, they purposefully do it after the shifts end so they don't have to pay, even though mandatory work-related activities are, what most would call, _work._ And, at the surprise of exactly no one, there's some rich fucker sitting on his ass at the top, doing none of the work and getting all of the pay. This is why we need unions and strikes. He won't be laughing when his entire underpayed, overworked workforce forms a strike line.
United states unions never understood that the best way to protect US workers is to help unionize workers in other countries. All workers in all countries need basic dignity!
I am so glad you got out of there and I hope you're doing much better and are much happier now. Thanks for sharing your story with us and big virtual hugs 🥰!!!
I'm glad the younger generation in Asia are starting to think and talk about their mental health and wellbeing over career, talking about that stuff has been a stigma in alot of cultures.
Not in China. Yes in other Asian countries they are thinking freely and protesting. But in China the government is currently cracking down on younger generation.
China is the worst country in the world to play video games you need a government Id because people under the age of 29 are only allowed to play 3 hours of video games cause they want the young generation to work as slaves
I'm working in IT but I have a 9-18 Monday to Friday schedule and sometime I feel so Burnout from work and home events. I really feel for these people. The people of the world really need more PAUSES in their lives. It really got me how she was saying that she feels tired and doesn't have time for anything. There are days like this when I know that I should just sleep but I'm procrastinating and taking hours from the resting time just because I feel like I need to spend time with myself, or just because I don't want tomorrow to come yet. So many days already past, in which I haven't had a proper sleep schedule. For different reasons. I don't know if I'm going to ever had a stable sleeping schedule without waking up every morning feeling tired.
Sounds like a great way to burn out your employees and reduce their effectiveness and productivity. You can't work your best unless you're rested and have a decent work -life balance.
@@willrobinson3114 they had long stop being a communist. Now they are a worse version of US where ultra capitalist have almost absolute power. At least in US, some socialist group still have influence in calling shots.
Really makes me appreciate capitalism in the US that enables young families like me and my wife to choose to stay home with our kids and opt out of the entire rat race. At least until our kids are older then we can find some hobby jobs or something.
@@backpackpepelon3867 no, not the ultra capitalists that have absolute power, still the government. CCP can make any chinese ultra capitalist disappear or vaporize.
It's the same in India. My boss told me to work with covid and I collapsed midway. They had the gall to get angry at me for not informing them that I'm "logging off early". When I told I was sick and just couldn't do it they said there are 1000s waiting for this opportunity... I quit the next month and now work at a much better place.
It is crazy, so many countries allow this. In my 20’s I also worked simultaneously 2 jobs + university and I ended up in a hospital for a month with diagnosis exhaustion and burnout. Quit my jobs, left bf and took a break from my studies. After getting treated I started all over with a different mentality. I only do my own taskes, no more others work, working only from 9-5. Nothing less, nothing more. No extra hrs, unless those are paid etc. I realised, I do all the hard part and at the end my boss/ management collects bonuses/ dividends. I decided to work differently and my mental health is so much better thanks to that decision. Money isn’t worth ruining your mental health and overall wellbeing.
Oh Lord, this clip is literally showing folks working on a treadmill like a freakin’ hamster. This is extremely cruel and inhumane treatment of workers. It is so destructive to their mental and physical wellbeing. This supports the mindset that happiness involves struggle. Don’t buy the lie folks. 😊
This issue also occurs in Japan and Korea, their work culture is the same, working overtime without pay, they believe more in the culture of hard work than the study results that working too hard causes less productivity. did you know that germany works less hours than other developed countries but has a higher income? boss calling employees on holidays is illegal and shops must be closed on sundays.
Same with Italy bro. My boss asked my once time that why u dont go back to your country for holiday? Even when i did not really want to go, she sent me the money to book a filght- which, in my country Vietnam, seems like a myth.
@@minhdiennguyen5323 That's because the Asian leadership style is like the feudal era, the boss wants to be treated like a king and employees try to get promoted in various ways including extra hard work like slaves.
@@khoirulanam9141 It’s like that the gap between living standards 20 years ago and now so huge and the competitiveness is so unbelievable. Same with China, in Vietnam, there is q quote said that The society is a big marathon and if you run slower than your rival then you lose the position 😂
@@khoirulanam9141 It’s like that the gap between living standards 20 years ago and now so huge and the competitiveness is so unbelievable. Same with China, in Vietnam, there is q quote said that The society is a big marathon and if you run slower than your rival then you lose the position
Norway try to prevent overworking by having strict rules on how much you are allowed to work. You HAVE to have 4 weeks off every summer and you have to have 2 days off every week. I'm happy about that, because working too much can be bad for your health long term.
Also for your relationship and therefore for the people around you. You need time and actual leisure to be a good partner, parent, friend, child, sibling... Otherwise other people will suffer because of your selfish pursuit of money and career "success". The Nordic/European model is much better than this sort of madness.
In my country the highest income can barely reach 1000 dollar and the lowest income can be even fewer than 150 dollar , we don't have fixed working hours , the boss can ask to work 23 hours if they wanted and we can be easily replaced and kicked out , and the worst part is the way they ask us to do things that don't fall under our job, like for example as teachers we must only teach kids not to clean the classroom , it's so fucked where i live i want to die
@@lisaw150 these are good jobs in good companies, it's the price of getting ahead in life. you can always settle for a smaller car, smaller house, longer commute, backpacking vacations and crappier education for your kids with an average career. nobody is forcing you to live the high life. or you can always live in north korea, the remaining true communist where everyone but the officials are paid the same (crap). you wouldnt feel that miserable when everyone you know are equally poor.
I was working like a 996 in the UK as a programmer but it was with some overtime pay or an extra day off in lieu as a reward. I did that for 6 months I think and that made me terrified of mental stress. I didn't know what is burnout until it hit me and the anxiety of bugs before I went to sleep made it very hard to sleep. You dream of work. Even though I was getting extra pay or an extra day off in lieu, it didn't make me any happier. Especially if you work from home. You wake up, wash your face, have breakfast and sit down for work, and work until it's time to sleep, repeat. Then on your day off, since you are so used to working from home, you don't even get to relax at home because now that is your office. So, you force yourself to go out but then all your friends are busy so you go out alone and try to see the good in life. It's not a healthy way of living at all.
In my opinion, what you described is more like the nature of coding than that of your job. I just can’t stop working until the debugging is done, though I am merely a part-time programming learner.
I told people this years ago. I think people assume working from home is a panacea, presumably because they feel they can slack or something. Truth is, you never leave your workplace, and that lack of a psychological break is not easy for many to handle. I work from home now because the family needs my flexibility (and I'm the boss), but I think if I were single I'd have to return to a place around other humans.
*_"You have to be on standby all the time, whenever and whenever you are"_* Why I said *_no thank you_* to promotions at my previous job, once I clock out, I don't want to be bothered until I clock back in the next day and I especially didn't want to be bothered while I was on vacation.
You are then one of the rare people who are both able and willing to do it. You value your life over the money. If you earn more than enough for a living, then you should be more concerned with the time than with money. It is sad that majority of people are more into materialism/conformity than the things that really matter in life.
@@lampyrisnoctiluca9904 exactly i work in warehouse and pretty much everything around me is warehouse and people take more time doing more work so they get more money then more time home with family it's like people are ignorant to put family over money
@@ulissesmendoza8752 to many of them tho, it is precisely because they think working more will bring more money for family. whether that means paying off a mortgage, loan, or someone's college tuition or just having extra for a good birthday party. so i never really judge why they do it.
@@aj-sz8mu but even me being 20 i work only part time because im not willing to die for a company who can replace me super fast i still got my priorities in check i guess because isn't the same with money management as others plus overtime doesn't really make a difference either it's literally like 100$ more and then taxes cut it to 80$ so it isn't really worth killing yourself for
I worked like this for 6 months, for a politician. It was miserable. They wanted to renew my contract after for half of my previous pay-I didn't say no, but I did say "only if I can do it remotely" Now I only make stuff for them once or twice a week. It lets me maintain a salary while working independently. Best bussiness decision I've took
I was working in the nursing home for almost four years. There were people who were doing 16 hour shifts on daily basis. I was working on all shifts, sometimes doing spontaneous double shifts. "Could you stay for the night."After few weeks I realized that I need to apply "airplane mode"." When masks fall out in the plain mommy puts the mask on herself first then on the baby. So, I started to prioritize myself. Once I agreed to stay overnight from 3 pm to 7 am, and have next day off. They kind of forgot about the deal because I saw my name on the schedule. I just called them announcing that I am not coming. It was already 800 am next day, and they wanted me to be back at 3:00 pm. No freaking way. And my manager, lets say he was not happy, and I left him in screaming mode. I am not paying for your mistakes. You need to be your own advocate because those people won't care about you. You are a worker not a slave.
I know a Chinese girl who moved to Norway for a new job. She often stays in the office 3-4 hours after everyone has left. She is accustomed to it. Her boss always has to force her to go home 😂
The Catch-22 of the 996. The culture of "I'm working longer than is expected of me, so I must be more valuable than my colleagues" has made this their new normal. It's normal to sometimes work longer to meet a deadline, but it's not healthy to sustain this in the way its manifested. Longer hours does not equal more productive - it just means lower efficiency. It makes me think that all of these "emergencies" could be avoided if people could tend to their self-health and operate at their peak performance.
This is the end result of a culture that believes in top-down authority with no questions asked. Interesting that the Communist government began re-incorporating Confucianism a few decades ago, a philosophy that says your place in the world is your place and you must conform to the dictates of the hierarchy.
996 is quite a relief compared to school hours. Chinese kids do 696 or 697. I am truly terrified of the young generation. I can't imagine how workplace would look like when they grow up.
@@bored_and_has_no_clue you make the choice everyday as a consumer when you buy cheaper imported goods from China than buy something made in the US. We do it to ourselves in the US
@@lanceash I wouldn't chalk it up entirely to that. This sort of 996 culture is inevitable for the American lower class as well as a means to get by. And we're taught these stories of billionaires working for 3 million hours a week or whatever leading to them being a billionaire. It's a different kind of overworking culture, but its still there. Granted, it's apparently less prevalent.
Yeah, I would have thought that China, having been ruled by communists for 60 odd years, would be more literate on worker exploitation than western countries. It's frustrating to see the same story of overwork replay beat for beat...
@OMEGALUL Clap it's Communist at its core. They've only in the last 20 years opened up to capitalism in the few special economic zones. It's an authoritarian, Communist hell hole
@@caad5258 This just shows you how bad socialism/communism is. The "I would have thought" comment is exactly why this stuff doesn't work. Come to the right side, where people actually get paid for what they are worth. If you need a hint, its name is "Capitalism"
How? Since slaves didn't get paid at all.. can you even imagine working from sun up to sun down & not get paid for it for hundreds of years of free labor to build someone's else wealth for them while you don't get sh*t for your hard work? The women slaves even had to breastfeed the whyte babies... so please stop saying that it's like slavery cause you & these guys have no idea what it was like to be a slave. They have a choice... slaves didn't..
but if you live in a country like china or most asian countries like korea/japan , your only option is to fit in with the society standards or migrate.
Your grandpa didn't have to work every Monday of a five day week just to pay his taxes for earning that money. Your grandpa never had to pay 30%+ of his earnings to provide housing.
The Dalai Lama, when asked what surprised him most about humanity, he said: 'Man. Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.
@@enea_7280 you missed the point , even low pay jobs you can cover the bills and have a few quid to spare . If not you should relocate to a cheaper area and live within your means. It’s about not overworking yourself and sacrificing too much time and health to acquire money. A job should simply be a means to gain enough to be comfortable, but devoting as little energy too it as possible without getting fired. Focus your energy into more enjoyable things. I’ve worked some pretty terrible jobs for minimum wage when I had too so I understand that aspect and not everyone is fortunate enough to change their situation right now but I believe most can. Anyway I enjoy the quote 🙏 have a good day.
@@Dryenwc3 Speak for your own country. Everybody is dying to get in many major construction projects in Australia but its hard to get your foot in the door you have to know someone high up. In The IT so many Students are coming out of UNI in IT and healthcare and cant get a job its only since Covid hit they was able to get jobs putting there health at risk for a job!!!
That’s why illegal immigration is being pushed because they know illegals are desperate enough to take these jobs with lower pay and the beginning of race to the bottom.
For about 3 years I pushed myself to work like this as a vet tech. 7am -10:30pm, 5 days a week, sometimes 6 or 7 days is I could pick up and extra shift at another clinic, in a very dysfunctional, over-worked, always double-booked corporate animal clinic. Constantly dealing with rightfully angry owners that were unhappy at wait times, miscommunication, unexplained costs on bills. It was utter horrible chaos, and in the end, the animals suffered. So, I worked extra hard, right through lunch, through breaks, fighting to keep it organized, keep my doctors on track, and make sure animals in my care and often in others’ care were properly treated. I’d be the last tech to leave, deep cleaning as needed, setting up for surgeries, finishing details in my part for SOAP notes, as well as for my doctors, who were always there to the end too. I don’t know how I did it, but I did it. I believed the clinic could be changed, that every promised attempt that corporate made at improving our serious issues could finally see fruition, but it always fell through. It slowly became clear that they didn’t care about how angry clients got, how under-treated animals were, how late doctors had to stay, they didn’t care. If one client swore off the clinic, there would be 3 more in line demanding an appt. We were all in a cycle of failure. I was genuinely worried for one of my doctors, our chief of staff, and her mental state. Suicide rates are high in veterinarians, and she seemed to always silently despair. She never complained, never broke, was always the strongest of all, always pushing us on, standing behind corporate 100%, but her eyes were sad and tired. And one day, I just snapped. I had a genuine nervous breakdown. Called out for 2 months with all the sick and vacation hours I had never used that rolled over. I was panicking constantly, couldn’t eat, couldn’t go out. I just sat home, terrified of nothing. I had loved the hard physical work, the animals, be they happy or trying to bite my face off, I loved it. But the hours of constant failure that I kept myself in threw me into the fetal position. I finally had to quit. I put in my two weeks once my 2 months were spent. And I CHOSE that. There was no push in my culture or from my family, my peers to do that. It was my own silliness. I cannot fathom how anybody works that way out of necessity, because of social pressures, for families who need them. God bless them and I hope these people can find peace from all this, but not by taking their own lives.
Thanks for your comment, and your story. Mental health, sleep, relationships all matter. Running forever in a hamster cage for a corporation that doesn't understand normal human needs is hell. You did the right thing by standing up for yourself.
I feel you. I’m a Shift Lead / Vet Assistant and I know the struggle 100%. I’m in your end phase. I just burnt out all my PTO and resources to avoid work as much as possible at my vet office because Covid really made dog shit hit the fan. My coworkers and I are barely getting by through comedy alone at work. I hate waking up to start an 11 hour shift and I’m starting to really think of moving on. I commend you for taking that leap! I’ve been in the vet industry for 9 years now and always imagined doing it life-long. Covid has me thinking twice.
You kind of steal another person’s job when you do this in addition to destroying your life. The same thing is happening in the documentary, a lot more people could be paid a little less each and the companies could make a little less profit but raise average standards considerably thus expanding the consumer base and maybe keep the profits but they are stuck.
I work in the nuclear industry. We often work 72 to 84 hours a week, however, that is only for short periods of time. About 3-4 weeks per outage. When the outage is over, you find yourself having to take several days to allow your body to build back up (mentally and physically). This type of schedule is not sustainable, even for the younger generation.
Hi Lori! My sister’s name is Lori. Former Nuke HP here. Outages used to last at least 3 months and for big projects might last a year. That was back in early 80s to early 90s. I got out of it in early 90s when I had our son. Ex husband stayed---he had a major stroke a month ago. Yeah he made some good $$$. But now it will be going to his long term care.
I was working 72 hours for just slightly above minimum wage, a couple years ago. Had to do that for 6 months. But It was like that for me for the past 5 years of college. Get up at 6am, have classes from 8am to 2-3pm, drive to work, work till 11pm, go home and study until 1-3am, then repeat. My family had financial issues so I didn't have a choice. And my state has very little job opportunities for young people to get into careers without knowing someone else. So, I took what I could until a friend helped me a get a real job. I had no time for anything else and I was always exhausted. Without my friend, I would have died of heart issues probably. I still feel like I am recovering after finally being able to just work 40 hour weeks for almost a year now. And in a couple weeks, it will be my first time ever going on a vacation (i'm in my late 20's). I have some things planned. But I don't know what it is like to have fun or to relax and forget about worries.
This is within all asian cultures, particularly in east asian. I had some Korean and Japanese friends tell me that before when they worked in back home, if their boss didn't leave, they didn't leave, even if there is nothing left to do..... Not gonna lie, I work in a bank in Canada and I leave work at 3:30 every day and I am not even considered the first one to leave.
As someone who has worked with 9-9-6, it makes very little sense. Due to the exhaustion of working so much, the work is sub-par and more than half the hours in a day is spent fixing the mistakes from the last day, resulting in an over all only 4-5 hours of actual work done per day, most of which is poor quality.
It's a false economy.. Mistakes are going to be made when a corporation drives its employees into the ground. What is the quality of work of an employee who is always physically and mentally exhausted? Then you have "touching fish" which is also taking away from productivity. It's simply short-sighted and really not sustainable.
Yeah, it does not work. They've even found 40 day weeks are inefficient. When workers get Wednesday off as well the weekend, the research shows they're much more efficient. So the workers often end up doing as much work or even more work then they would in a 5 day week in 4 days. Go figure.
I know and I love it. Didn't productivity actually go up or something? I'm getting ready for the excuses. "We can't adopt that, it won't work here!" "What if we tried?" "What if it fails!" "Well then we'll know, won't we?" "I'm not willing to take that risk, are you?" "Y E S"
Actually when i visited my grandparents in the village here in Africa growing up we didn't work on Wednesday becuase it was a traditional religious spiritual day and on Sundays cause it was a Christian religious day, rest of the time we were up by sunrise and working whatever the work was for that day, its important to rest I think its still in practice now even
I vaguely remember that most of the time they noticed no productivity change at all for the company but it lead to the employees having more productive lives to learn more skills, work other jobs, etc (Better for the economy) and have better mental health.
The fact that Nicole doesn't want her real face and voice revealed, probably because she doesn't want to be blacklisted from this industry for revealing how terrible it is 😥
What’s worse, if her boss found the video, he/she will bombard all of the company’s both private and open Wechat group to investigate who she is, and in the most of the case, the person would be find out and fired
No, the whole industry is complaining about it. Everyone knows everyone else is complaining. Yet, no one could or is willing to escape such working conditions because the salary is really high. New graduates from good universities can get half-million RMB in their first year and salaries can double in few years. While the median income in metropolitans in China is 80K.
There is a Netflix documentary about a chinese company that moved to US. They used both chinese and americans hand work. The chinese were far better in producing (because they were used to work in a non human work system) but the american started to get injured, rejected dangerous tasks that american wouldnt accept but chinese would. And the sindicate pushed the company to attend the America safety rules. They dont care about their people and see themself as hard workers while the rest of world is lazy.
I used to work 10 hours a day, 11am to 9pm, a few times a week, usually getting 60 hours a week and the sentiment of coming home and not being able to take part in anything that you enjoy his so close to home. Because 11am is still relatively early and 9pm is already quite late, so it basically takes up your entire day. I can't believe what it's like for her since she's doing more work and it's also the norm.
I taught Chinese students when I worked at VIPKid and I had a 12-year-old tell me she goes to a tech school in Harbin and they make them go from 9 AM to 9 PM. I couldn't believe it. I thought that was insane to do to kids. But now I see that they are just preparing them for their inevitable future... so sad!
True, I'm from southeast asia and when i watched east asia stories and saw their students staying at school for long hours and some even go to cram schools, i was mindblown and super glad that i live where i am. It's not the greatest country, but at least i could live my life properly as a kid/teen.
Yep, we had that in high school Guangzhou, students study(or I should say work) from 8am to 10pm( lunch breaks and dinner breaks in between). I remember I could barely get out of the bed from the dorm early morning 6:30. Have had enough of that shit seriously.
I was homeschooled in the early '00s. 8th - 12th grade was essentially 996, 9 months out of the year. (Mostly core subjects too - I wasn't in band or sports.) Turns out now that I'm mentally slow. Not less intelligent than average, I just have a sluggish processing speed. I overthink everything. I double and triple check everything. I'm not sure if my education caused the slow processing speed, or if it was necessary for me to learn the way I did because I was already slow. At any rate, I hate it. Leads to so much anxiety about work. Why can't I just speed up and think like a normal person?
Yet as a (maybe spoiled) German I still think 8 hours at the office is a very long time… 6 is fine for concentration and productivity and a good work-life-balance.
@Lo Me don't know about you, but if I worked six hours a day I wouldn't be sitting at home the rest of the time lmao. I'd walk my dog everyday, spend more time with the family, watch a movie, finish that book...
@Lo Me you do know they're the most productive economy per hour worked in the entire world right? Their standard of living is very close to the United States and they work much less than America and way less than China
There a concept called the Night shift. It’s when you hire more people who job is to take over after the regular workers go home to rest and not work 24/7. Everyone gets rest and the work gets done ✅
What baffles me is that Chinese companies don't all have workers there 24/7. You would think that they could have 3 shifts of 8 hours a day and just hire the best employees from their competition. _Poaching_ talent from other companies is a viable strategy if you have no morality.
in china a lot of blue collar work is done in shifts but because of the lack of unions most companies also dont pay overtime. if you have full 24 hour days with 3 shifts you are only paying full wages without getting the free overtime you would normally get. so i think thats a big reason why they dont just hire more people.
Toyota did an experiment in their workshops in Norway. Two shifts each 6 hours. 6-12 and 12-18. This will allow for costumers to leave car in workshop before work and pick it up after work. Workers are happy and costumers are happy. Improving costumer rating and in the end bottom line. An other example is the open space office. Which is proven to reduce productivity and generally is much worse that single or shared offices. So what does most companies do? 8 hour days and in open office. ALL of them, this is knowledge known for decades and yet they insist of picking the worst possible option, why? control! plain and simple, Control! management want control, and management are over represented in scoring high in psychopathy. There are many in management that gets a high making your life miserable.
At my job, there are 3 shifts. 12 hours day, 12 hours night, with the third shift covering weekends. The factory never stops operations, it's a constant flow
Wow this really reminds me of my type of work as a caregiver, it's stressful work, dealing with Alzheimer's and dementia. I often time work double shifts 4 or 5 days out of the week so that my check can be something I can work with. The work is grueling and the turnover rate is high. 16 hr shifts are no joke after a while. Then sometimes after that I still can't sleep for reasons I don't understand sometimes my body is just on go mode. All though we are countries apart we share many similarities.
I feel so sad for the lady. She is feeling so down. God bless you, I pray you find the courage to change your situation and make the choice to look after yourself. You deserve better. 🌻
If she's making 80k a year and doesnt have any time to spend money anyway, then she should be able to save and invest quite a lot and get out of this after a few years. Then work a laid back job and subsidise her lifestyle with those investments... i hope she isnt wasting it all on a huge appartment she isnt ever using or status symbols.
You can’t just quit in China. You are a mere cog in the communist machine. If you quit, it’ll show in your record and you’re unemployable. Social credit will go down and you’ll never get a decent job. Blackmail on every level of life.
For four years in my twenties I worked away from home, sleeping in one or two star motels working 5-6 days a week, +10 hour days. There was a period of time were I worked 20 days straight. I refuse to live my life like this. These years of my life are gone and I will never get them back.
I've been playing this game for some time now. It's basically a death match that pits workers against each other, and where the ultimate prize is the privilege to work even more hours and maybe a pat on the back from the boss.
I wonder what this world would look like if people did want they WANTED as opposed to what they fall into. I personally would love to cut grass and plant flowers cleaning trash off the ground is like an orgasim for me...but who would pay someone to do that? It's odd that we all work in a society doing the things we think we should be dojng and not doing the things we want to do because it's structured in a way that can't allow it.
@@Ryan-nn1kl just an idea but you could have been a professional landscaper. A gardener. A plant shop owner. If you’re really passionate about something, there is a way to turn it into making a living.
@@Ryan-nn1kl Why don't you work as a gardener then? There's a channel on TH-cam with the name "The Boring Channel", and the guy basically just documents how he cuts grass and does garden makeovers. You should definitely check that channel out! ✌️
@@Ryan-nn1kl my dude do it! I started painting houses at 18 and got into maintenance , now I manage a retirement cooperative, doing all kinds of odd jobs
It’s actually kinda sad bc my mom also worked about 70 hours a week at her old job for 4 years (she is a single mother and she had to because of bills and everything) and now that I’m older she told me how alone and depressed she felt during those years of her life I personally don’t think anyone should have to work that much because you might as well not even have a life
not just work but fact she's a single mom family is composed of 2 parents or at least it should but we don't live in perfect world also, the whole feminist movement ruined a lot of people lives
@@ko-Daegu The feminist movement was designed to give women a choice and be financially able to get out of abusive home situations. The top 1% has perpetuated this girlboss mentality that causes the trouble you see today. Men are becoming disenfranchised by a society that seemingly undervalues them and women are taught that we're worthless if we don't bring in a paycheck.
@@ko-Daegu you completely missed the point. Also why are you bringing feminism into this? You have no idea why their mother is a single mother, and it is none of your business.
Also a sad fact that it doesn’t only effect those who working in this culture, but those who left as well. Many of my elder family who been working 996 their whole life feels uncomfortable after retired, and their mindset still in the state of cannot stop think about work.
@@dragomegaman3711 north korea hits joint. I live in communist country with true freedom of no responsibility of self but lose meaning of life and self in proccess. hits joint. Maybe I should hold responsibility of lifes horrors to give life meaning.
This reminds me of working as a courier driver in New Zealand. start at 6am hopefully finish by 6pm at the latest. 6 days per week. I'd get home after work, shower, maybe eat something quick and go to sleep, and repeat. I was stuck in a contract where if I wanted a day off, I would have to pay for another driver to take my place for between $550 - $880 per day (my daily earnings - $150 per day) Needless to say I have now quit that job, and it had taken me at least a month to recover my sense of who I was before.
Sounds stressful. I was thinking they didn’t even include travel time to and from work. In China, that’d be 1-2 hours on the bus, train, and subway. They also didn’t mention the outlandish rent in the cities. I just don’t believe it’s worth $75k, as claimed. It’s not much in a city. I’d rather have some crap job and buy a house in the country than work my butt off in the city paying rent but never owning. Also, I think those hours would feel incredibly lonely. Life = work
Growing up studying in Malaysia in my high school years, I saw this pattern from my friends, and they feel this is normal because everybody does it. When I left Malaysia to the UK for further studies, I have made up my mind to stay in the UK, work life balance is visible, aiding me in this decision was when I was in France to do my project in my second year of university, French people have labour laws that no one should contact each other for work purposes after work hours. I now work for a Fortune company top 100 in the EU, I am fortunate to have no debts to pay and be able to live the decision that happiness comes first before work. I feel so happy going to work Monday to Friday with the choice to work remotely available. Not everyone has the privilege to do this, but one has to take a stand in order for changes to happen.
My father worked very hard to make it to the US, scrounged what he could to go to college, and fought his way to become a manager at a big tech company in the 90s. Because of him, I'm able to have work life balance in the US if I want simply because I'm in a country with a leading economy that excels in scalable industries. When you have razer thin margins (manufacturing, QA) or questionable law processes that drain margins in countries such as China, work life balance could easily kill a company. They're an export company servicing wealthier buyers, so they're on the wrong end of controlling whether or not they can achieve work life balance. We (the US and UK) also have the benefit of extremely strong military/political backings that allow for more white collar jobs with higher margins, simply because the rest of the world uses our currency + services due to that kind of massive leverage. The ability to have work life balance is a direct result of scalable industries, a lot of which are non-repeatable and winner-takes-all (tech/finance), which requires a less fortunate country/consumer to tank the costs. So really, I'm a bit conflicted. Perhaps taking an aggressive stand for work life balance in countries such as the US/UK may level the playing field, potentially ruining the advantages that allow us the luxury of a large chunk of our population achieving work life balance.
Everyone should take a stance for change🤔🤔🤔 Not in Malaysia. Only govt servants get a better life.. ie... TheSonsOfTheEarth. The rest better work ur ass off... The menial workers do 997, maybe off one day a month.
This problem is partly rooted in ego, thinking you are special and that you can indeed push more hours than the guy beside you. Trust me, the owner of the company loves this endless competition amongst peasants. If you were to accept your human condition and your limitations you would realize how dumb all this is.
Exactly, with Automation, AI, and all our modern tech we should all be working less and sharing more. Old economic ideas feed into greed and mostly benefit the extremely-wealthy. Modern politics is mostly a smoke-screen and the populace gets dumber and dumber (imo). People need to wake up and pay attention to the REAL issues that can benefit humans the most. We don't need to have wars (say USA vs. China) nor 40+ h work weeks just to get by. We are worshiping fake gods (say USD or CNY fiat currencies).
@@squig808 The US spent 2.5 trillion dollars on the Afghan conflict, 2.5 TRILLION! Imagine what that would do if it was invested in worthwhile, peaceful causes? It could put the entire population of the US through college. The amount of hospitals and schools that could be built; it could turn the US into a fucking utopia! It's fucking sickening!
Most of the people I saw working in Shenzhen were coming in at 9:30AM and leaving at 6:30PM with half hour lunch and our company specifically had a 1 hour nap time.. but what would I know I only lived and worked there for a year...
Definitely understand ming. Tried working at couple popular call centers in my country and I just could not do it, i cried everyday, id loose my incentives if I was even 1 min over my pee break and the calls were none stop. Felt so weak that I couldn't handle it when some people were there for over 10 years. Still not over it, feel defeated.
callcenters are the worst, dont beat yourself up for not handling inhumane pressure and remember that maybe some people have advantages over others because of a supervisor/superior that favors them. or maybe they really really REALLY like speaking and tricking clients into buying stuff/make deals that are actually very bad for the client long-term wise
I also work 996 style in US, the reason I do this is the people I work with is so smart and also very hardworking, if I don’t work hard enough I may never get promoted or even get laid off
She clearly has a passion in music. She used to play guitar after work but now just swipping and sleep. That could be a minor issue for some but for me that is sad as I can relate with my experience as well. But thank God I quit the job before its getting too late. Had to go thru income-less months and started my small business and earn half as compared to the previous salary. But, my mental health is tip top and I'm so happy!
Happy for you. Nobody deserves treating themselves like automatons until crapping out. I did one year a 16h working schedule. Shit almost killed me. If you are working that much, with the little time you have on earth, I'm sorry, but you are working for other people to live while you die.
I had a boss tell me once, "Your job is to pay for the type of lifestyle you want to live. It should never consume your life. Your family, friends, and well-being are what's important in life." I still live by those words.
thats beautiful
It's true. It's just that the concept of work-life balance becomes more of a fairy-tale because affording a decent lifestyle by the materialistic standards that are constantly marketed to us become harder and harder to obtain.
America's minimum wage is $7.25. I don't know anyone who can make an honest living making $7.25 for 40 hours a week without some form of assistance.
Agreed
You just wait until you figure out that you can make others pay for that 😏
All hail Capitalism 😏 perfectly balanced like all things should be. 😁👌
Smart
"The dark side of 996", Bro all the sides of this are dark
Funniest yet sad comment
Right what other sides are there 💀
@@カリナちゃん abyss 💀
Dark
Unless you're making mad coin. Like you could do it for a while if the money was rolling in
This level of work ethic makes sense for an entrepreneur serving to grow a business. Not for employees getting paid hourly.
They don't even get paid hourly,they get fixed wages and are forced to work more hours than they're paid for.
That's not "work ethic", that's corporate propaganda that benefits from desensitized slavery.
Capitalists are fucking delusional
Yup that is true, but usually the entrepeneours understand that. The ones that usually do not understand are middle management.
@@thechosenone1533 Exactly
I've worked in China for almost 5 years and the working hours (mainly for Chinese citizens) is completely insane. People are not efficient nor productive due to exhaustion and mental fatigue. Meetings always last multiple hours and rarely anything gets resolved. The lack of productivity is actually astonishing. For example, people were shocked when I finished a simple task within 1 hour, rather than taking 2-4 hours to complete it. These are results of 996 working mentality, people are just stretching out their tasks as much as possible. I've seen some companies in China slowly adopting 4 days work week or 4.5 days work week, really hoping it continues in that direction, because the younger generation at the moment will never accept 996.
just like in Japan
I was so productive during lockdown, finished my work in a fraction of the 8 hour day. Then when we got back to the office, i was done with my tasks in like 4 hours, then i had to sit another 4 hours pretending i was busy, it's stupid... we need to rethink the way work eats our lifetime away
@@doppelminds1040lol this is sooo accurate 😂 Same!
@@juanok2775Japan gets better working style nowadays, they don't promote doing extra works anymore
even Chinese companies in the US hold a Chinese work culture. When you complain, their reply is, yeah work culture. Ok, that means tomorrow some Arabic company is going to force employees to wear niqab and follow Sharia law. I am sad companies from abroad bring their cultures instead of following local rules
South Korea used to be like this but they recently implemented many rules to prevent overworking. As a result, they're seeing happier employees, better fertility rates, etc.
Good to hear but doesn't south Korea still have the lowest birth rates in the world?
Where did you pull that lie from? South Korea currently has the lowest fertility rate in history (0.83 in 2020 and 0.8 in 2021 vs 1.2 in 2010). Sure you get anonymity on the internet but dont make shit up dude.
SK will be gone by 2070.
@@zakaryloreto6526 that could be why they are doing it....on flip side i don't think china has this problem
@@rac4687 They have, if you look at the new data, their birth rate have dropped to a level almost near the birth rate of Japan
It's just that they have a higher population so that the situation doesn't seem too bad in the short run.
996 isn't even effective. Productivity dramatically decreases once fatigue overtakes the body. A better balance would actually result in more work being done.
On a factory floor perhaps where efficiency greatly effects productivity.
Not so for a receptionist for instance, they can answer the phn and take a message just as well on hour 11.
Maybe a mistake here and there.
Same with managers, sale people, people in marketing and financials.
The slight drop in productivity is far less than the cost of training and employing a second worker.
However, on a factory floor or construction or something like that, then yes, once they are tired their productivity will dramatically decrese.
You do not understand.. humans are replaceable. If productivity decreases, you just pick another human with high productivity. There are no human rights. That’s the problem.
@@icecoldchilipreppers you think people in office jobs don’t get fatigued? Gtfoh , that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. You’re full of shit.
They take 2.5 hour to 3 hour lunches to nap. People are paid monthly also, once a month. Pay isn't by hour for most in China.
@@icecoldchilipreppers They are talking about knowledge workers. Mental fatigue is real. I have worked as a laborer and a tech worker. Tech is much more draining.
“I’m losing my soul and becoming very numb.”
If that doesn’t sound alarming then I don’t know what does
That's like a linking park song
This is not for lazy Western cucks. This is Asia, people don't believe in handouts
imagine having a soul smh
@@antiracistbaby1085 you’re using a western woman as your pfp you weirdo..
@@Killzoneinbound Brazilians are not western
I'm a nurse who only has to work 3-4 days a week of 12 hour shifts, and it absolutely burns me out. I can't imagine doing 996, I would literally off myself
Your lazy then
@@AHundred-ec5yq 3/10 rage bait
The worst thing is that there are many who glorify this practice. Somehow we've gotten to a point where not having sleep, food or any semblance of a social life equates to hard work.
This is what the rich want, more labor for less, your to tired to see what's happening...
*cough* hussle culture *cough, cough*
Modern slavery,work till you drop dead means no sick leave,no holiday,and no pension,companies dream workforce.
Fortunately or not body and brain can't work like that. Exhausted people are the source of errors, then you need even more work to fix it.
I’m sure it has nothing to do with all that crap entrepreneurs and motivational speakers put out about how you’re not successful because you like sleep more than you like success
As an office worker, I realized that my peak productivity is 6 hours a day - 7 on a good day. We're able to achieve more in 30 to 35 hours a week than in 40+. When I worked 50+ hours, my work was poor quality and had to be redone. Upper management thinks you can have 9 women make a baby in 1 month. 996 is a reflection of poor upper management.
It isn't normal for a healthy adult to only be able to work 6-7 hours a day. Are you overweight? Can you grab handfuls of fat around your waist? If so, that's your problem.
@@jeanlucdiscard2382 able to and productivity is apples and oranges
@@jeanlucdiscard2382 I work as a lawyer, and I get the same amount of billable work done working 30 hours a week and a full 40 hour week. I worked 40 hours before covid and now nearer to 30 hours from home. Same amount of billable hours in 2020 as in 2019. It has nothing to do with not being able to work, but I - and many others - are more productive if the work sessions are shorter and more focused.
I like that everyone is calling out @Jean Discard for being a smooth brain.
Yes. Communists. Poor upper management.
Working like this does not increase productivity. It actually decreases it. Better to have happy workers with good work/life balance. It increases loyalty and productivity. It never ceases to amaze me when companies don’t realize, that if you treat your employees well and with respect you will go much further.
I *once* worked 70 hours in a week, and this was in a group home where much of the time the children and teens weren't present. My brain was pretty mushy by the end of it. Concentrating for 12 hours a day, even if you have breaks, six days a week as a norm? If you make your employees work like that, you get mush brain results.
For sure, because you know better than all of these companies and their data. :-D
In my opinion I think they are ok with working non stop and nothing else based on the culture
Totally agree
agree, if you got a task on wednesday, but you work 6 days a week then you may want to delay it so you will have some work until saturday. but if work at shorter time period then the task will be done few days earlier thus making you more productive.
This type of life style doesn’t just affect the worker, it affects their family too. As a daughter of a single family, I got sent to boarding school because my mom just doesn’t have the time to take care of me, but even when I’m back home during weekends, I only get to see her for a few hours from Saturday night till Sunday afternoon where she would send me to the school bus and I go back to school.
Now that I’m an adult, I have realized I was completely neglected and traumatized as a child, but I don’t even really blame her cause could she have done. Because of the lack of family support in my childhood, I grew up being clinically depressed too. It’s honestly such an unsustainable way of working, because even now my mom is still constantly working, even when she is suppose to be resting or on a holiday, she is always answering work calls, replying to work messages
I feel so sorry for you. I hope for you, that you find some peace and happiness from time to time. I have similiar trauma but less intensive i guess.
I feel sorry for everyone in China suffering from this unsolvable situation of " giving up the life for living" and i don't now what to do either. Thats really sad
My stomach turned at the end when she's describing how numb she feels. She sounded like someone willing to take their own life just to escape her life. I hope she can find happiness.
Yeah that Numb comment got to me also
I did this 3 year ago. 12 hour for 6 month no rest days. Then i resigned from it. But look back all my co-worker in the company still working like that for more than 2 years. They have friends group. I cannot handle it so numb. Feel like in heel
that's why we have a lot of emo's in western culture
This video is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STUPID
they take a few exceptions and make it as it was rule and idiots without critic power just agree and believe everything is true... PEOPLE WITH INTERNET HAVE NO BRAIN
the video is sooooooooo stupid that at 7:31 THE WOMAN IS CLEARLY SPEAKING ENGLISH, but they remove her natural voice, then dubbed in chinese and then subtitle it in english...
THE WHOLE VIDEO IS NARRATED IN ENGLISH SO WHY REMOVE THE INTERVIEWED THAT WAS SPEAKING ENGLISH? MISTAKE?
no they want to manipulate the speech... dont be idiot
STOP BEING BRAINLESS, START PAYING ATTENTION TO THE THINGS MEDIA SHOW YOU, MEDIA HASN'T THE POWER OF TRUTH ONLY THE POWER TO MANIPULATE IDIOTS.
DONT BE AN IDIOT
@@rafaellima381 lol, can you even lip read? She’s clearly speaking in Mandarin.
Also, if you want to present an alternative argument, then wrote down your sources. Where are the links again that discredit Vice’s work? Vice does their research very thoroughly. Stop being a troll online
Just left mine. 90k a year. They started “forced overtime”. I’m out. I’d rather make less but watch my daughter grow up and be present to love on my wife.
Can’t miss the little things. Good for you and yours.
Good for you, hope you enjoy your time with family!
Salute to you, God bless
takes courage to make that choice (i did) and it's hard but worth it.
good for you man because once those times pass, no money can buy it back.
It really annoys me when the new gen being labeled as ungrateful lazy people. Little do they know that the new gen is embracing life more than wealth.I ask couple of youngsters about it and they told me “what’s the point accumalate so much wealth and relying too much on it to enjoy life.” While I do agree money have their significant role in bettering life but if you choose wealth over life then there’s a possibility you will discard life without you know it.
True wealth is intangible, it's immeasurable, it cannot be diminished and can only multiply when being shared. It's only bc people misunderstood the "cause" and the "effect" of wealth. The true wealth of so called really successful people is not in their companies, money, etc. It's in their spirit.
@Brian Mcclung it’s easy to jump into conclusion based on biased perspective. Like I said before, I acknowledged the role of money for a better cause but it doesn’t mean that money itself become our main goal to attain happiness. I lived in the society that value money more than life. I’ve seen lots of my colleagues send their parents to old folks home because for them their own parents are dead weight since they have been groom and taught to only make decision with the interest of money.
Try to understand my whole point and stop twisting my statement just because it doesn’t align with your stand. Again, I totally agree the importance of fortune but dismissing the value of life itself?
@Brian Mcclung "Child is the father of Man"
What does it matter if a man gains the whole world but loses his soul?
How do people get the luxury of having a job that gives enough time for personal needs and enough pay to afford everything needed to accomodate it? It feels like people like you are getting paid more than what you deserved or your bosses are charging insane fees to their client in order to afford the wage they're giving away.
It’s sad that I’m watching this video while here in Germany people discussing about four days working week (32h/week) with the same payment. We are living in the same world but the treatment can be so differently, knowing this makes me feel sad.
You’re kind❤
Why are you sad? Be happy you're not an chinese guy and live a life like a drone. Im glad i live in Europe.
Germany is racist tho
thats the thing, theres so much data and studies that show that working more than 6 hours a day you become inefficient to the point of being a detriment to your work. But no company no country really wants to acknowledge it. Even 4 days working at 32h/week you still wont be efficient because you'll be working for more than 6 hours a day .
@@Riza20462 how's that related to the main topic of the message?
this is heart-breaking, we only live once, all the money in the world means nothing if we're not happy, healthy, and have meaningful relationship with other people
But if they not work like that they cant afford for living. Thats not happy as well
Most people need that money to survive the present, for when they retire and secure themselves in case they get sick, not for leisure.
I think the real problem is, basic necessities to live are so high in cost that you have to do the hours to afford them. I've seen this everywhere, especially in boom towns. This is the direction capitalist driven society has headed, investment has drawbacks and it seems to fall all right on the actual workers.
@@adhipramanaoentoro2252 I don't know. I see this homeless guy who is always whistling and skipping down the street like he doesn't have a care in the world.
We don't think about money and work during last days on earth, well atleast us who have hearts...
As an employer i can't see how this would be beneficial outside of "appearances". I've found by being more lax about time off and reducing hours i get much better quality work out of my employees. When we gear up at certain times of the year everyone comes in often staying late without being asked or expected to. Take genuine care of your employees and they'll take care of you
This would be the case if it was just one or a small hand-full of companies. China, SK with new limitations, and Japan, all suffer from many companies that do this. Stretch out your investment and not your money. Take it to America, when I worked in politics for a month, all 90 employees worked 7am -10pm, 7 days a week for either average pay or none at all, due to volunteers. If your work culture is accepted, than there is an underlying problem.
Wish more employers were like you!
i SHARE THE EXACT SAME SENTIMENT in my company. Pay the team well, give them time for personal growth; passion and excellence is a standard in the work ethos.
Long hours are not productive, after a certain hours, a person becomes inefficient, and a waste of money...
ur business is trash thats why, we are talking bout big biz
I’ve never heard a resume read at a funeral. It’s unlikely your boss will be at your bedside at the end of your life thanking you for working so hard and not taking vacations and not spending time with your family. At the risk of sounding dramatic; when we put the needs of a company before our personal lives, we put our personal lives at risk.
Agree
100% agree with you. 99/6 isn't about hard work. Its about greed, war and death. They could care less about their citizens. They make it clear they are only a "human resource." And their vile ways are taking hold in the west right now.
We're just working-cattle.
@@Doctor-Stoppage it’s already in the west this has been going on to Americans
@Hear Hrrh bro success seems nice but it’s worthless in the end what you should do is try to pray and connect with god and try to focus on being happy rather then money god bless you
I am Chinese, I want to say that most companies are not even willing to implement 996, my latest day to leave work is 11 o'clock in the evening, I have a colleague who even works until 2 o'clock in the morning the next day, although Chinese law stipulates a maximum of 8 hours of work, but most companies will not abide by this rule, resulting in many people now think that getting a 996 job is already a good benefit, because most companies will not even give you 996, but there are too many Chinese, which means that labor is very cheap, if I am not willing to do such work, there will be more people who are very happy to replace me, the boss's ambition is too bigI became a tool for my boss to make money.
Stay strong.
Can you confirm this? I heard you will see tons of business executives sleeping in the streets, not because they are homeless but exhausted and don't have time to go home.
@@stilettosnthaghetto6997lol no....that's not true
the craziest part to me is that even though she is working for over 12 hours a day, she's still living in what appears to be a small one bedroom apartment eating microwave noodles. this is so depressing
Who needs an apartment and hobbies when you can work all day!?
And with a college education..
Exactly. Big city rent is expensive and I bet she’s living month to month. She should get some crap job in the country, buy a little fixer upper house, and ride her bike to work. Maybe rent out a room. Either way, they’re both crap jobs but at least you get to have a personal life in the country. ❤️🤟🏻
@@amazingsupergirl7125 It's china. Living space is nearly impossible to find with reasonable commute unless you want to live out in the boonies and make your 996 into a worse ratio.
Right?? And her title is a tech executive??!?
this is not just China, its a normalized thing in Asia in general. The burnout and slave-driving of young professionals is so damn depressing, it almost drove me to suicide. You have a population of driven and smart professionals who are pushed to their limit. Eventually I got hired to work for a European-owned tech company and was in shock when I saw my many benefits and all the leaves I could take. My boss and co-workers encouraged me to take many holidays (something I could never do in my old job), I could explore hobbies, and have time to sleep soundly. I can never bring myself to work for a locally-owned company ever again.
Its the same everywhere.
I'm in Asia. I only heard of 996 now, where exactly are you?
@@amberstale2628 me too bruh
@@amberstale2628 maybe the term is new, but the culture has been in existence all across Asia and SE Asia for years.
However, some in SE Asia do 996 without realising out of "not minding to work extra hours for the sake of the company" instead of this hard-line type of 996.
But it's technically 996 cuz deep down, you know you're doing these extra hours to show you're worthy a keep for the company or else you're replaceable - which you always are no matter what, unless you own the company.
Yeah you often hear the black companies of japan who exploit workers to their maximum.
“If you dont do it someone else will.” God i’d hate to be under this manager
Edit: wow I didn’t expect there will be so many comments and likes. Guys trust me, i’ve been with these kind of managers and the only impact he had on me was anxiousness, feeling not good enough, burn-out and unmotivated. My current manager understood if i said something is out of my capacity. When my jobdesc suddenly enlarged and i couldnt handle it, she gave me two interns. I still have to do it anyway, i didn’t have to do it alone. Better managers exist, and please be one.
but thats the truth. its only based on a neverending stream of "others" that keep it running!
in every job on any place! every boss thinks that way! every single one!!! the really hard ones just spell it out!
It is true in alot of situations. Even in America.
That's not the manager, that's literally late capitalism
Had managers like that.
damn that saying is so fkn played out they even use it for this?. i have hated it since they also use it for “what you wont do for your man, someone else will” bs 😭 lol
I had a job in the government that nearly killed me. Til this day, I feel like taking that job was the worst decision I have ever made, and trust me that's saying A LOT. I was working with my aunt and so I could NEVER escape work, she would follow me around the office bugging me about whatever bs, then she would call me once I got home continuing to pester me. I wanted to quit working after HUST ONE WEEK!!!! I would cry everyday day omw to work and home, I would go 5 and 6 days without sleeping, I would hallucinate, I blacked out while driving Because I hadn't slept and nearly caused a car accident and when I came to I had no fucking idea where I even was. I couldn't eat I couldn't think, I was the dumbest person in the office and I was certainly always made to feel that way. I had no one to talk to, not friends not family, no one. My family didn't take me serious because they didn't think a job could destroy you the way it did me. it was "JUST A JOB" after all.I had 3, THREE NERVOUS BREAKDOWNS!!!! I absolutely understand what she meant when she said it was invisible torture. I was eventually fired, that job took everything from me. This job ended in 2013 and I'm still suffering with PTSD. A job can absolutely kill you, if the stress doesn't kill you, you'll just end up killing yourself. My heart goes out to ANYONE and EVERYONE who has or is stuck in situations like this. Please know your pain and suffering is valid. You matter, your mental health matters, Please if you can, start trying to find a way to get out. It's not worth it, the money isn't worth it, I know it's easy to say "just quit" but You can't work a job if you're dead, you can't keep a job if you can't think. It's not worth it. My love and prayers go out to anyone who is or was stuck in this situation❤❤❤😢
What an awful experience. I hope you find your health and self-esteem restored soon.
Brutal
are you ok now
i thought gov't jobs were known to be cushy jobs that worked no more than 40 hr/weeks?
I can imagine that some YT commentators will slander your post and call you a snowflake and entitled and all that. Thankfully, I know better, from my own bitter experience of the one and only well-paid 'white collar' job I ever held, nearly twenty years ago. Nearly two decades on, and I've still not recovered. I can never again persuade myself to move 400 miles away from my family and land myself in a toxic office full of passive-aggressive workaholics and spend most of the time being criticised and having to redraft the redraft of the draft and guess what my line managers were expecting. I lasted only eight months, then I packed my bags one evening and drove back home without leaving so much as a resignation post-it note.
Meh, the lady defending the pratice is a joke. I used to be one of those guys took, working 80 hours a week. Then boss decided to take the business in a different direction and laid off my entire department at the drop of a hat. Lol working hard for the company. What a joke.
Absolutely right. What's the point working hard for someone who can throw you out anytime to cut costs
she is so broken its ridiculous. Living in singapore we see some people who are influenced in that direction too and they stop at nothing to make more money even though they hate their own lives, it's ridiculous how much they love money, they don't even spend a dime of it.
It looks totally ridiculous and stupid from out here but what do we know, how much does it cost to live in china? All I know is that a lot of folks around me also think its incredibly expensive to live here and save a ton of money when the cost of living honestly isn't ridiculous, its very easy to get trapped in a rat race even if you don't need to be in it.
I used to work like that too, but I was hourly so it was great
Exactly!
If these educated people are having problems with work and life, people with little education are out of luck.
Yet they ask why people don’t want to have kids. They barely have time for themselves 😕 this is sad to see
Yet there are more than a billion Chinese
@@TeRRm0s Yet you make a dumb comment. Currently China imposed a 4-child policy because a lot of young folks don't want to have children anymore. It used to be that everyone was having children but times has changed; China is heading into a downfall and they know it. See PolyMatter's videos about it: th-cam.com/play/PLR5tswn4SFyUOm3QusvlFGbPCCAN_uXnK.html
@@TeRRm0s for now...
@@TeRRm0s they would have been 2 billion...chinese are great ppl...they controlled their population without outside pressure ..they are honourable...they decided to control population because they went through huge humiliation at the hand of japanese and UK...god bless chinese culture
@@jagatdave +1 social credit point
Imagine being a slave for more than a decade to get a degree just to be a slave again for the rest of your existence. What a life!
😂😂😂
That's called Capitalism!
And College
Every single adult life includes working for 20+ years
almost all humans to have ever existed worked their whole life; since the invention of agriculture.. nothing new
Fantastic journalism. Thank you!
I had a friend in Japan who was sleeping 4 hours, had 2 hours free in a day, and basically the rest of his day was work-related activity which included a 4 hour daily commute.
He was leaving depressed messages, it wasn't okay. Then I suggested to his that he work freelance like me.
He was living in an expensive part of Japan, so he couldn't do that. However, he did find contract based work that paid for overtime and his mood got much better. He stopped posting depressed messages after that.
I mean, there are alternatives... looks like i live in paradise
You may have saved his life with your suggestion. Good work!
@@okkami676 Maybe Baby!
@@emmysorbicularis1185 where do u live and what do u do
bless
Studies say that after a 52 hours work week the productivity falls off a cliff, even people working 70 hour weeks still only produce as if they would have worked 52 hours a week. People just starts working slower when the work week is long.
When you are tired & unmotivated because you are overworked you also start making a lot of mistakes too.
I work 10 hour days from Monday to Thursday, friday and sat I work 12 hour days. Sunday is the only day off. But I'm only scheduled to work 4 days a week but I chose to work the extra days, sometimes 7 days a week😁
It’s just modern slavery, the lower our purchasing power gets, the more people will be forced to slave away all day for big corporations
@@diamonddogs6037 Do you enjoy it? Or are you trying to save up money or get a promotion. Do you feel tired? I know some people don't need much sleep. My brother has like three jobs just because he likes working.
@@talithasuya8908 I dont need to work long hours. It's just optional for me. I have a strict schedule that I follow through out the week wether its working or personal life, I make sure I complete all those and it becomes just another day. I always lived by if you lived everyday instead of waiting for that weekend to enjoy life then everyday becomes just another day on my calendar. But your bro working 3 jobs, man that's nuts. But props to him.
Man surprised me most about humanity. Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.
-Dalai Lama
deep.
this must be one of many reasons the Chinese government was after the Dalai Lama
Well said!!!
My point in a nutshell. Then you will probably get blamed and deemed weak for saying it…because “you are selfish and you want more” or something else…BS 😂
You stole that from a quote by a Buddhist monk lol
This happens all over the world and isn't just a Chinese problem.
Exactly! This kind of stuff slowly takes over in the West as well. But they give your fruits, and free coffee, to make you feel better about being a corporate slave.
You notice how the woman at the end said "lazy, incapable staff" like those exact words had been said to her multiple times in the past as a derogatory way to motivate harder work?
The funny thing is, laziness has produced many time-saving methods and inventions that allow workers to be more productive.
@@aminboumerdassi2334 I heard this at a Microsoft conference with a gentleman who graduated from a Michigan university. Unfortunately it seems we have moved away from this model, and gone straight to optimizing and min-maxing. I really miss working.
Company bosses, who do little work of their own comparative to what they make, push this propaganda of the "sin of laziness": the idea that being dissatisfied with your job means you're a layabout, that taking mental health seriously is just being weak, that working harder is some noble, selfless goal, despite the fact that they rarely if ever _reward_ that self-determination, _and_ despite the clear, proven negative effects it has on people.
Eventually, workers come to internalize this notion and start competing with each other, and using shame as a motivator on each other. Which, you know, benefits the bosses just fine. They convince their workers to work harder without having to compensate them, and they even do it to each other! Until the whole workforce is a neurotic mess that can't sit still, because they're constantly, subconsciously feeling unproductive, when we're _the most productive era in human history._ Just let that sink in for a second. People are genuinely feeling guilty about being unproductive at work, in the year that saw the beginning of *HOBBYIST SPACE TRAVEL.* We're not just talking "technically we make lots of food", we're talking about trillionaires, people who own individually own more wealth, technology, and power than _empires._ And none of that is because people like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk are just more creative and intelligent than anyone has ever been; it's 100% because of worker productivity.
It's times like this we all have to remember a certain quote from a certain movie: _You are not your job._
If you also take into consideration the other things she and the other interviewees said, you will see that she has no choice. If you don't work long hours you will be seen as such and if the layoffs come you will be the first to get cut. If there are no layoffs your peers might get a salary increase (albeit not much) or promotions while you don't. Or your employers might decide to fire you and there are a lot of people who are more than happy to take your place. Even if she leaves for another job the work culture will be the same so in order to survive what choices does she have? Unless she gets lucky like the 2nd lady or opens her own business (which might be harder).
If they're incapable, how would adding more hours improve that? Of course, quality doesn't come into it. Yeah, our product is shitty, but you get so much of it!
What surprises me is that they're happy to have people to work these hours or even encourage them to do so. I live in Asia and you see the people here working for long hours but they are extremely unproductive, which actually costs the business more in the long run. It's better to have motivated hard working people in for 4 days a week than tired people who hate their job for 6
I totally agree with you regarding the difference between motivations and productivities. But sadly in my eyes, the gestures are showing more about the hierarchy, domination, and the insecurities of the leaders and companies. That's essentially why I chose to live in the west.
And from a more national perspective, giving people free time means they have more time to pump their money back into the economy through leisure, and this will open up new markets
@I am Fighterman I pity you
@@iamfighterman9646 Japan also has the highest suicide rate and lowest work life balance. I like the place but workers get treated like shit there
@@patrickwilliamson29 Japan doesn't have the highest suicide rate, this is some decades old stereotype. Japan is 49th in the world at 12.2 per 100000. Some notable countries above that rate: Russia 21.6, South Korea 21.2, Kazakhstan 18.1, Ukraine 17.7, USA 14.5, Slovenia 14, Belgium 13.9, Finland 13.4, India 12.9, Sweden 12.4
I teach chinese children online and was surprised at how many of my students basically never see their parents. :(
I'm surprised they even had the time or energy to have kids if they work that kind of schedule
@@cleone423 A lot of rich kids are sent to boarding school five days a week (only home on the weekends) beginning when they are 6 years old.
Welcome to the Matrix
What difference does it make? Damara. Please take this into diplomatic consideration. My whole family is from the American South. Our parents didn't graduate. Our parents fought in battles they had no idea how to navigate. As a result, we never knew our parents. We're not a result of our parents. My parents are still alive and it took me a long time to understand the bullshit they needed years to understand. My mom was head of household and the primary earner. Women were always equal to me. Now I have to make excuses everywhere I go. Fuck you.
@@ridesharebeware5747 What the hell are you on about
In my country, the trucking industry was just like that. If you didn't accept the illegal wages and bad work practices, bosses would say "if I trow the keys in the air, there are 100 other drivers waiting to catch them".
15-20 years later, compnay owners look at how pretty their trucks are sitting in the garages because they have no drivers. But instead of creating decent working conditions, they blame the drivers for not wanting to work.
u just slave for them , they wont pay u if they can
Employers like that are garbage.
Nobody wants to work and end up in a worse situation than before. Or with too little to show for it. Their goal is to create a desperate underclass.
"Sacrifice your childhood. Focus on school". They said
"It'll be great for your career" They said
"It will be fun" they said
Nobody said that mate
@@ejjsdhgxjdhhdhsh2339 clearly you don't have asian parents
@@cyzcyt haha
In India.
Study hard in school,have fun in college.
Study hard in college,have fun in university.
Study hard in university, have fun after graduation.
Study hard for job,have fun after being employed.
After being employed 24×7
Be ready for Boss call😭
Yeah, that's clearly what is happening to every children until now.
"I'm always tired after work, I just swipe through social media. I don't even know what I'm looking at"
This hit me hard
That's why i deleted all social media
@@tence_6965 That doesnt solve the larger root issue, that you dont even have a chance to be alive because your existence is to work and sleep.
@John Wick Absolutely, People back then would have worked presumably less hours but achieved more tangible and real "rewards" out of it.
Such as building your house, or hunting for dinner etc. Actually meaningful stuff.
Todays society you're expected to work yourself to sleep, wake up and proceed with working. Most likely in a job that means Nothing to you and actively harms the environment.
Then people want to wonder why drug abuse and suicide is perpetually on the rise and todays generation don't have Anything to look forward to in their entire lives.
Its fucking fucked.... To put it lightly.
Same here. That was me at one point.
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother damn, I knew all of this but when you really think about it... How depressing
I worked 665 in a warehouse in Texas for two years. Hours were 6am-6pm Monday-Friday. These working conditions are also very common in US. Wall Street guys usually work 7am-7pm Monday-Saturday, sometimes even on Sunday.
Big deal - they get well oaid
What I find so absurd is that people justify 996 with efficiency even though the exact opposite is what happens when you overwork the employees. There are dozens of studies that prove that people with a solid work-life-balance are way more productive than those who basically don't do anything but work. Especially in high-performing jobs this has to be considered.
Well said!
One women in the video was sort of proud of for work hard 996. This makes me feel disgusting.
If it needs more time, then it's not efficient at all, simple as that
If this is the case, slavery is most efficient
But literally nothing in China makes any sense
My prayers go out to all the young people who were never allowed to enjoy their youth for a mentally sick society😭
@@joku6764 WOW you’re so correct! Glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks that. They always tried to put me on antidepressants. But that I never believed that shit would work In the back of my conscience. Now I’m better than ever and now I gotta save my siblings.
The whole world is the same. But I agree. Yeah, China is definitely a mentally sick society.
@MudLee Our country has a high population count? Doesn't China have something like 1.4 billion people? People are trying to sympathize with China's labor culture and you just want to bash Americans. Get a grip, no American cares what you think.
no one is forcing them tho...they can choice to unemployed and broke!
@@joku6764 lol.
My uncle passed away, he was SR software engineer at a company. He was young and unmarried, he took his work way seriously and his health very lightly. One day he died in cab due to heart attack while he was going to office.
After his passing, the world didn't stop spinning. His ex-company didn't just immediately go bust either. His user account passwords were reset and his work were parceled out to other employees. Nothing significant happened as a result of this incident.
@@wshyangify true. Organisations don't love u. Western world for example is in India for very same reason, cheap labour and slaves
@@India00171 and the western companies are the only ones that are paying reasonably in India. Not all obviously but most do, if it wasn't for these companies most of the youth would be at home masturbating their life away.
Indian companies will pay you half of that with no other benefits.
How old was he?
@@BenQotsa he himself looking like a uncle
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This isn't different from dying in a factory floor, it is just slower and more cruel.
The manager says the efficiency is lower for people working less. In fact, it's the opposite. People working too many hours lose themselves into low efficiency habits and are generally too aloof and tired to be able to see and correct those. People can work efficiently for about 30 hours per week. The other 42 are worked shitly.
I've done 16h work. It is like 8h, but takes longer.
The Germans discovered this LONG ago. They work 4, 8-hour days. 32 hours a week! That's it. The quality of their work is self-evident, as-is their lifestyle. Asia are merely working themselves into an early grave for the profit of their OverLord Managers. SICK!
@@1vw4me what? No. As a German I can from experience (and statistics) say most work 40h weeks (full time).
16 hour work is NOT like 8 hours at all. I did that once or twice, when I was a security guard, and it was fucking brutal. Your brain only wants to concentrate on doing your job so much then concentration starts to fade, memory problems, willpower drains, potential for depression, start cutting corners on your diet, etc.
@@damienholland8103 I meant in the sense you aren't really working. You are just there. You are still functional in a broad sense, but you might not be for long.
@@VeteranVandal Ah, my bad. Good day to you.
There are numerous studies showing overtime makes you less productive after a couple of weeks. Better to do a sustainable 40 hour week and also have a life outside of work.
Hell studies show us just working a five day work week is hectic enough. Wont lie I work 4 10 hour shifts I love it.
that may be true but people should not oppose 996 on the basis of it being inneficient for companies but on the basis of it being inhumane and in violition of human dignity
I am a IT manager, and when someone of my staff attempts to solve a problem with working serious overtime, I kick them out of the office (or try to get them away from the computer in case of hime office). It's way better to have a clear mind to solve a problem. Trying to brute force a solution often just creates more problems (often only visible much later). Nothing against working an hour longer once in a while if you are close to getting something done, but that should be the exception.
@@fn8772 I mean that's the whole point. Working 8 hours a day is kinda useless unless in a customer service position and even than McDonald'sstays open 24 hours a day. Just like walmart.
Love that you are defending the 40 hour work week like it’s a good thing. It’s a relic of the past.
When will people learn that productivity has Diminishing returns! Productivity is not a function of time spent at work that linearly grows. Good sleep, decent wages, availability of good food, perception, and more intangible things are a factor of high productivity. The biggest productive gains often times come when you are resting and thinking about the problem passively.
Bingo
China isn't worried abt quality they are just worried abt quantity, how many shitty products can we put out in the least amount of time possible.
I think they are just use their employees until their diminishing return is too low and then replace them
They use the rule on the ohter country, 996 is ridiculoso 👎🏼
Facts.
Documentaries like this make me appreciate living in America.
You and me both, brotha.
It's like a joke, bro🤣But sadly it's true
Is this sarcasm?
Because the job market here sucks too.
I've worked a 995 for an extended period of time. I found the schedule technically manageable; you don't have a life outside of work and you're exhausted both mentally and physically, so you tend to make more mistakes. It's really a terrible way to manage your workforce.
In China its not about productivity, its about the CCP's need to control their populace and prevent any political change in the country. Keep the peasants too busy and exhausted to protest or try to affect political change, keep the middle class happy with luxuries and rising wages so they wont want change, and bribe or bully the upper class into submission. That way no one can try to change the system and the CCP retains total control of the country.
@@arthas640 dude, that's smart 😮
@@arthas640 agreed. And in the West corporations large or small are more and more outsourcing to China or India creating such extended competition to the remaining market that employees perpetuate this nasty cycle by selling their skills on sites like fivrr less than half off!!
@@s7r49 that's one thing alot of people dont pay attention too: they work more but lose more to taxes and start eating out more so they end up making less then they think. I knew a guy who worked a ton on a salaried job at higher pay but didnt have time for dinner or breakfast so he started getting breakfast and coffee each morning and grabbed dinner on the way home and sometimes lunch too so hed be spending an extra $20+ dollars a day just on food. Stress can lead to snacking and make you desire fancier foods as stress relief too
@@elli6432 something like that happened where I live. Estimators in construction made Foreman wages (at the time 10-20% above journeyman wages or about $25-$30/hr) but then wages rose to closer to $40/hr so some people moved to cheaper areas and worked remotely so they could undercut other people. Before long guys out of state in areas with lower cost of living and lower taxes were working for $25/hr when it should have been $40/hr so your choices became work for nothing remotely or find a job in the city and drive 3+ hours a day.
I worked similar hours in Mexico as a debt collector (i bet mexicans know already for what bank) My schedule was 8 to 8. No overtime, meetings after the regular working hours were normal (so any other day i was out at 9 or Even 10). No holidays, not even christmas, get sick? To Bad for You cause the work charge was designed to barely have time to fulfill your duties (a lot of people worked their free days to compensate a sick day), our pay was calculated not by our numbers of one week but an average of 8 weeks, so one Bad day can turn into 2 Bad months, i spend a year in there, 2 co workers died in bike accidents while working in just that period, 13 of My co workers were robbed in that period, My Office had always a shortage of workers, ergo some of us worked even more due to lack of muscle. It was fucking horrible, worst part? The motherfucker that owns the company doesn't give a shit, he mocks people who uses his services, mocks his own workers, Even the ones that die working for him. My advice? No ammount of money is worth your life, 1 year there caused me hypertension, i almost had a stroke AT 30 YEARS OLD.
Damn wtff .!
Jesus christ, a 12 hour day _and_ meetings?! The fucking nerve! Not only are they so incompetent that they can't manage to find time for a meeting in a TWELVE HOUR SHIFT, but if I guess right, they purposefully do it after the shifts end so they don't have to pay, even though mandatory work-related activities are, what most would call, _work._
And, at the surprise of exactly no one, there's some rich fucker sitting on his ass at the top, doing none of the work and getting all of the pay.
This is why we need unions and strikes. He won't be laughing when his entire underpayed, overworked workforce forms a strike line.
United states unions never understood that the best way to protect US workers is to help unionize workers in other countries. All workers in all countries need basic dignity!
Things like this makes me think why I shouldn't quit my job like what if ai got these one next
I am so glad you got out of there and I hope you're doing much better and are much happier now. Thanks for sharing your story with us and big virtual hugs 🥰!!!
I'm glad the younger generation in Asia are starting to think and talk about their mental health and wellbeing over career, talking about that stuff has been a stigma in alot of cultures.
Imagine what the older generations say about them. It's always a "kids these days" conversation with seniors talking about younger people.
There are better options overseas! Why stay there? That’s not life! That’s slavery!
Not in China. Yes in other Asian countries they are thinking freely and protesting. But in China the government is currently cracking down on younger generation.
@@ineffably_described yup it’s always older generations saying they had it bad so others should too instead of trying to better the system.
China is the worst country in the world to play video games you need a government Id because people under the age of 29 are only allowed to play 3 hours of video games cause they want the young generation to work as slaves
I'm working in IT but I have a 9-18 Monday to Friday schedule and sometime I feel so Burnout from work and home events. I really feel for these people. The people of the world really need more PAUSES in their lives.
It really got me how she was saying that she feels tired and doesn't have time for anything. There are days like this when I know that I should just sleep but I'm procrastinating and taking hours from the resting time just because I feel like I need to spend time with myself, or just because I don't want tomorrow to come yet.
So many days already past, in which I haven't had a proper sleep schedule. For different reasons. I don't know if I'm going to ever had a stable sleeping schedule without waking up every morning feeling tired.
Sounds like a great way to burn out your employees and reduce their effectiveness and productivity. You can't work your best unless you're rested and have a decent work -life balance.
Of course they can't work their best under these conditions, that's factored into the equation, the company doesn't need their best.
Or- hear me out- we just put nets outside the windows
That's what turnover is for.
and that is the purpose.
burn them out, then fired them. and guess what? there's millions who are waiting in the line for the job
you are right men, there is new law in place to do just that and 996 is now outlawed.
Really makes you appreciate trade unions and fight for flexible working arrangements.
Ironically, trade unions are denounced as socialism yet China is perpetuating these human rights abuses under the pretense of communism
Preach
@@willrobinson3114 they had long stop being a communist. Now they are a worse version of US where ultra capitalist have almost absolute power. At least in US, some socialist group still have influence in calling shots.
Really makes me appreciate capitalism in the US that enables young families like me and my wife to choose to stay home with our kids and opt out of the entire rat race. At least until our kids are older then we can find some hobby jobs or something.
@@backpackpepelon3867 no, not the ultra capitalists that have absolute power, still the government. CCP can make any chinese ultra capitalist disappear or vaporize.
It's the same in India. My boss told me to work with covid and I collapsed midway. They had the gall to get angry at me for not informing them that I'm "logging off early". When I told I was sick and just couldn't do it they said there are 1000s waiting for this opportunity... I quit the next month and now work at a much better place.
India is dirty
Ek laga bhi deta usse is type ke log deserve karte hai
wow, good thing you left...
Which company ?
It is crazy, so many countries allow this. In my 20’s I also worked simultaneously 2 jobs + university and I ended up in a hospital for a month with diagnosis exhaustion and burnout. Quit my jobs, left bf and took a break from my studies. After getting treated I started all over with a different mentality. I only do my own taskes, no more others work, working only from 9-5. Nothing less, nothing more. No extra hrs, unless those are paid etc. I realised, I do all the hard part and at the end my boss/ management collects bonuses/ dividends. I decided to work differently and my mental health is so much better thanks to that decision. Money isn’t worth ruining your mental health and overall wellbeing.
Oh Lord, this clip is literally showing folks working on a treadmill like a freakin’ hamster. This is extremely cruel and inhumane treatment of workers. It is so destructive to their mental and physical wellbeing. This supports the mindset that happiness involves struggle. Don’t buy the lie folks. 😊
Diagnosis fictitious.
No one ever said on their deathbed…’I wish I worked longer hours’
I dont glorify long work hours. But i dont glorify words on deathbed.
If only... I had ... bought ... a nicer... car...
[dies in Slave]
@Prav1976 You have made your life confused.
I've heard people say they wished they did more in life. Maybe they meant work more
Suicide rates are at an all time high. Trapped in a system only 1% want to be in.
This issue also occurs in Japan and Korea, their work culture is the same, working overtime without pay, they believe more in the culture of hard work than the study results that working too hard causes less productivity. did you know that germany works less hours than other developed countries but has a higher income? boss calling employees on holidays is illegal and shops must be closed on sundays.
I think it being a requirement for shops to be shut on a Sunday is pretty arbitrary but the rest of it makes sense.
Same with Italy bro. My boss asked my once time that why u dont go back to your country for holiday? Even when i did not really want to go, she sent me the money to book a filght- which, in my country Vietnam, seems like a myth.
@@minhdiennguyen5323 That's because the Asian leadership style is like the feudal era, the boss wants to be treated like a king and employees try to get promoted in various ways including extra hard work like slaves.
@@khoirulanam9141 It’s like that the gap between living standards 20 years ago and now so huge and the competitiveness is so unbelievable. Same with China, in Vietnam, there is q quote said that The society is a big marathon and if you run slower than your rival then you lose the position 😂
@@khoirulanam9141 It’s like that the gap between living standards 20 years ago and now so huge and the competitiveness is so unbelievable. Same with China, in Vietnam, there is q quote said that The society is a big marathon and if you run slower than your rival then you lose the position
Norway try to prevent overworking by having strict rules on how much you are allowed to work. You HAVE to have 4 weeks off every summer and you have to have 2 days off every week. I'm happy about that, because working too much can be bad for your health long term.
Also for your relationship and therefore for the people around you. You need time and actual leisure to be a good partner, parent, friend, child, sibling... Otherwise other people will suffer because of your selfish pursuit of money and career "success". The Nordic/European model is much better than this sort of madness.
In my country the highest income can barely reach 1000 dollar and the lowest income can be even fewer than 150 dollar , we don't have fixed working hours , the boss can ask to work 23 hours if they wanted and we can be easily replaced and kicked out , and the worst part is the way they ask us to do things that don't fall under our job, like for example as teachers we must only teach kids not to clean the classroom , it's so fucked where i live i want to die
@@lisaw150 these are good jobs in good companies, it's the price of getting ahead in life. you can always settle for a smaller car, smaller house, longer commute, backpacking vacations and crappier education for your kids with an average career. nobody is forcing you to live the high life.
or you can always live in north korea, the remaining true communist where everyone but the officials are paid the same (crap). you wouldnt feel that miserable when everyone you know are equally poor.
@@dreamoffreedom4062 go away from there at all costs
China is paradise for slaves....🤡
as a chinese we can never see this type video in mainstream social media and it will be banned.
Sad. You live in abuse country.
？没有吧，我在抖音上常刷到吐槽996的视频啊。
No, I've seen 996 on Tiktok a lot
Bullshit, Jack Ma publicly praised 996.
@@88500990 so what😅his company still get a 996.nothing was changed.
I was working like a 996 in the UK as a programmer but it was with some overtime pay or an extra day off in lieu as a reward. I did that for 6 months I think and that made me terrified of mental stress. I didn't know what is burnout until it hit me and the anxiety of bugs before I went to sleep made it very hard to sleep. You dream of work. Even though I was getting extra pay or an extra day off in lieu, it didn't make me any happier. Especially if you work from home. You wake up, wash your face, have breakfast and sit down for work, and work until it's time to sleep, repeat. Then on your day off, since you are so used to working from home, you don't even get to relax at home because now that is your office. So, you force yourself to go out but then all your friends are busy so you go out alone and try to see the good in life. It's not a healthy way of living at all.
:(
Are you working a different job, now?
In my opinion, what you described is more like the nature of coding than that of your job. I just can’t stop working until the debugging is done, though I am merely a part-time programming learner.
I told people this years ago. I think people assume working from home is a panacea, presumably because they feel they can slack or something. Truth is, you never leave your workplace, and that lack of a psychological break is not easy for many to handle. I work from home now because the family needs my flexibility (and I'm the boss), but I think if I were single I'd have to return to a place around other humans.
If you were working 996 in the UK the company you were working for was breaking the law.
*_"You have to be on standby all the time, whenever and whenever you are"_*
Why I said *_no thank you_* to promotions at my previous job, once I clock out, I don't want to be bothered until I clock back in the next day and I especially didn't want to be bothered while I was on vacation.
I feel like that's becoming more of an expectation in America now.
You are then one of the rare people who are both able and willing to do it. You value your life over the money. If you earn more than enough for a living, then you should be more concerned with the time than with money. It is sad that majority of people are more into materialism/conformity than the things that really matter in life.
@@lampyrisnoctiluca9904 exactly i work in warehouse and pretty much everything around me is warehouse and people take more time doing more work so they get more money then more time home with family it's like people are ignorant to put family over money
@@ulissesmendoza8752 to many of them tho, it is precisely because they think working more will bring more money for family. whether that means paying off a mortgage, loan, or someone's college tuition or just having extra for a good birthday party. so i never really judge why they do it.
@@aj-sz8mu but even me being 20 i work only part time because im not willing to die for a company who can replace me super fast i still got my priorities in check i guess because isn't the same with money management as others plus overtime doesn't really make a difference either it's literally like 100$ more and then taxes cut it to 80$ so it isn't really worth killing yourself for
I worked like this for 6 months, for a politician. It was miserable. They wanted to renew my contract after for half of my previous pay-I didn't say no, but I did say "only if I can do it remotely"
Now I only make stuff for them once or twice a week. It lets me maintain a salary while working independently. Best bussiness decision I've took
I was working in the nursing home for almost four years. There were people who were doing 16 hour shifts on daily basis. I was working on all shifts, sometimes doing spontaneous double shifts. "Could you stay for the night."After few weeks I realized that I need to apply "airplane mode"." When masks fall out in the plain mommy puts the mask on herself first then on the baby. So, I started to prioritize myself. Once I agreed to stay overnight from 3 pm to 7 am, and have next day off. They kind of forgot about the deal because I saw my name on the schedule. I just called them announcing that I am not coming. It was already 800 am next day, and they wanted me to be back at 3:00 pm. No freaking way. And my manager, lets say he was not happy, and I left him in screaming mode. I am not paying for your mistakes. You need to be your own advocate because those people won't care about you. You are a worker not a slave.
Dear, you can easily be working from home and still be earning probably double of what your employer pays you
Proud of u !
I know a Chinese girl who moved to Norway for a new job. She often stays in the office 3-4 hours after everyone has left. She is accustomed to it. Her boss always has to force her to go home 😂
does she get much done in the 3-4 hours though?
In Sweden they basically don’t even allow you to work overtime. And they force you to use your 30 days holiday per year
@@Stierenkloot which is good thing that not many countries seems to follow it.
The Catch-22 of the 996. The culture of "I'm working longer than is expected of me, so I must be more valuable than my colleagues" has made this their new normal. It's normal to sometimes work longer to meet a deadline, but it's not healthy to sustain this in the way its manifested. Longer hours does not equal more productive - it just means lower efficiency. It makes me think that all of these "emergencies" could be avoided if people could tend to their self-health and operate at their peak performance.
This is the end result of a culture that believes in top-down authority with no questions asked. Interesting that the Communist government began re-incorporating Confucianism a few decades ago, a philosophy that says your place in the world is your place and you must conform to the dictates of the hierarchy.
996 is quite a relief compared to school hours. Chinese kids do 696 or 697. I am truly terrified of the young generation. I can't imagine how workplace would look like when they grow up.
@@bored_and_has_no_clue Yeah. we definitely work more than 996. We work 24/7 cause capitalism is bad yo.
@@bored_and_has_no_clue you make the choice everyday as a consumer when you buy cheaper imported goods from China than buy something made in the US. We do it to ourselves in the US
@@lanceash I wouldn't chalk it up entirely to that. This sort of 996 culture is inevitable for the American lower class as well as a means to get by. And we're taught these stories of billionaires working for 3 million hours a week or whatever leading to them being a billionaire. It's a different kind of overworking culture, but its still there. Granted, it's apparently less prevalent.
what a well produced documentary
“As human beings our dignity and liberty is most important” 14:24
I really do agree with the fellow Chinese lady.
Yeah, I would have thought that China, having been ruled by communists for 60 odd years, would be more literate on worker exploitation than western countries.
It's frustrating to see the same story of overwork replay beat for beat...
The Chinese people deserve so much better than the CPC
@OMEGALUL Clap it's Communist at its core. They've only in the last 20 years opened up to capitalism in the few special economic zones. It's an authoritarian, Communist hell hole
@@davek89666 their problems seem to be caused by capitalism though
@@caad5258 This just shows you how bad socialism/communism is. The "I would have thought" comment is exactly why this stuff doesn't work. Come to the right side, where people actually get paid for what they are worth. If you need a hint, its name is "Capitalism"
My granpa once said "you work to live" not "live to work". There is no point in living your life like that. This is just modern time slavery.
How? Since slaves didn't get paid at all.. can you even imagine working from sun up to sun down & not get paid for it for hundreds of years of free labor to build someone's else wealth for them while you don't get sh*t for your hard work? The women slaves even had to breastfeed the whyte babies... so please stop saying that it's like slavery cause you & these guys have no idea what it was like to be a slave. They have a choice... slaves didn't..
Wise words
Only one answer to that: "OK boomer"
but if you live in a country like china or most asian countries like korea/japan , your only option is to fit in with the society standards or migrate.
Your grandpa didn't have to work every Monday of a five day week just to pay his taxes for earning that money.
Your grandpa never had to pay 30%+ of his earnings to provide housing.
The Dalai Lama, when asked what surprised him most about humanity, he said:
'Man. Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.
That’s deep
Well said
This is NOT a Dalai lama quote. It's an islamic saying.
Thxs for sharing. Really deep food for thought.
@@enea_7280 you missed the point , even low pay jobs you can cover the bills and have a few quid to spare . If not you should relocate to a cheaper area and live within your means. It’s about not overworking yourself and sacrificing too much time and health to acquire money. A job should simply be a means to gain enough to be comfortable, but devoting as little energy too it as possible without getting fired. Focus your energy into more enjoyable things. I’ve worked some pretty terrible jobs for minimum wage when I had too so I understand that aspect and not everyone is fortunate enough to change their situation right now but I believe most can. Anyway I enjoy the quote 🙏 have a good day.
Minimum a 3-day free for people, we're not cows. 3 days for recovering energies, invest on ourselves, etcetera.
“If you dont do it someone else will.” Pretty much sum up the fate of every worker in the world !!!!!!
In western countries, there is a severe shortage of labour, especially in health care, construction but also IT and other sectors.
@@Dryenwc3 Speak for your own country. Everybody is dying to get in many major construction projects in Australia but its hard to get your foot in the door you have to know someone high up. In The IT so many Students are coming out of UNI in IT and healthcare and cant get a job its only since Covid hit they was able to get jobs putting there health at risk for a job!!!
“If you don't do it someone else will.” THIS is the real truth
That’s why illegal immigration is being pushed because they know illegals are desperate enough to take these jobs with lower pay and the beginning of race to the bottom.
@@emmabower9654 im talking about labor, nurses, caretakers, actual construction workres (electricians, plumbers etc).
For about 3 years I pushed myself to work like this as a vet tech. 7am -10:30pm, 5 days a week, sometimes 6 or 7 days is I could pick up and extra shift at another clinic, in a very dysfunctional, over-worked, always double-booked corporate animal clinic. Constantly dealing with rightfully angry owners that were unhappy at wait times, miscommunication, unexplained costs on bills. It was utter horrible chaos, and in the end, the animals suffered. So, I worked extra hard, right through lunch, through breaks, fighting to keep it organized, keep my doctors on track, and make sure animals in my care and often in others’ care were properly treated. I’d be the last tech to leave, deep cleaning as needed, setting up for surgeries, finishing details in my part for SOAP notes, as well as for my doctors, who were always there to the end too. I don’t know how I did it, but I did it. I believed the clinic could be changed, that every promised attempt that corporate made at improving our serious issues could finally see fruition, but it always fell through. It slowly became clear that they didn’t care about how angry clients got, how under-treated animals were, how late doctors had to stay, they didn’t care. If one client swore off the clinic, there would be 3 more in line demanding an appt. We were all in a cycle of failure. I was genuinely worried for one of my doctors, our chief of staff, and her mental state. Suicide rates are high in veterinarians, and she seemed to always silently despair. She never complained, never broke, was always the strongest of all, always pushing us on, standing behind corporate 100%, but her eyes were sad and tired.
And one day, I just snapped.
I had a genuine nervous breakdown. Called out for 2 months with all the sick and vacation hours I had never used that rolled over. I was panicking constantly, couldn’t eat, couldn’t go out. I just sat home, terrified of nothing. I had loved the hard physical work, the animals, be they happy or trying to bite my face off, I loved it. But the hours of constant failure that I kept myself in threw me into the fetal position. I finally had to quit. I put in my two weeks once my 2 months were spent.
And I CHOSE that. There was no push in my culture or from my family, my peers to do that. It was my own silliness. I cannot fathom how anybody works that way out of necessity, because of social pressures, for families who need them. God bless them and I hope these people can find peace from all this, but not by taking their own lives.
Thanks for your comment, and your story. Mental health, sleep, relationships all matter. Running forever in a hamster cage for a corporation that doesn't understand normal human needs is hell. You did the right thing by standing up for yourself.
Damn, glad you had the ability to get out of that
I feel you. I’m a Shift Lead / Vet Assistant and I know the struggle 100%. I’m in your end phase. I just burnt out all my PTO and resources to avoid work as much as possible at my vet office because Covid really made dog shit hit the fan. My coworkers and I are barely getting by through comedy alone at work. I hate waking up to start an 11 hour shift and I’m starting to really think of moving on. I commend you for taking that leap! I’ve been in the vet industry for 9 years now and always imagined doing it life-long. Covid has me thinking twice.
Profound story. Stress can do that- immobilize someone to complete inactivity. It's actually quite terrifying
You kind of steal another person’s job when you do this in addition to destroying your life. The same thing is happening in the documentary, a lot more people could be paid a little less each and the companies could make a little less profit but raise average standards considerably thus expanding the consumer base and maybe keep the profits but they are stuck.
I work in the nuclear industry. We often work 72 to 84 hours a week, however, that is only for short periods of time. About 3-4 weeks per outage. When the outage is over, you find yourself having to take several days to allow your body to build back up (mentally and physically). This type of schedule is not sustainable, even for the younger generation.
Hello Nuke Brother. I work at a NPP too. We are just about to start an outage. Have a nice day.
What do you gain out of it I mean other than finance your gonna just use on surgery on your body
Hi Lori! My sister’s name is Lori. Former Nuke HP here. Outages used to last at least 3 months and for big projects might last a year. That was back in early 80s to early 90s.
I got out of it in early 90s when I had our son. Ex husband stayed---he had a major stroke a month ago. Yeah he made some good $$$. But now it will be going to his long term care.
Philippines: That's cute.
I was working 72 hours for just slightly above minimum wage, a couple years ago. Had to do that for 6 months. But It was like that for me for the past 5 years of college. Get up at 6am, have classes from 8am to 2-3pm, drive to work, work till 11pm, go home and study until 1-3am, then repeat. My family had financial issues so I didn't have a choice. And my state has very little job opportunities for young people to get into careers without knowing someone else. So, I took what I could until a friend helped me a get a real job. I had no time for anything else and I was always exhausted.
Without my friend, I would have died of heart issues probably. I still feel like I am recovering after finally being able to just work 40 hour weeks for almost a year now. And in a couple weeks, it will be my first time ever going on a vacation (i'm in my late 20's). I have some things planned. But I don't know what it is like to have fun or to relax and forget about worries.
This is within all asian cultures, particularly in east asian. I had some Korean and Japanese friends tell me that before when they worked in back home, if their boss didn't leave, they didn't leave, even if there is nothing left to do..... Not gonna lie, I work in a bank in Canada and I leave work at 3:30 every day and I am not even considered the first one to leave.
As someone who has worked with 9-9-6, it makes very little sense. Due to the exhaustion of working so much, the work is sub-par and more than half the hours in a day is spent fixing the mistakes from the last day, resulting in an over all only 4-5 hours of actual work done per day, most of which is poor quality.
It's a false economy.. Mistakes are going to be made when a corporation drives its employees into the ground. What is the quality of work of an employee who is always physically and mentally exhausted? Then you have "touching fish" which is also taking away from productivity. It's simply short-sighted and really not sustainable.
Thats why chinese products always have sub par quality.....
Yeah, it does not work. They've even found 40 day weeks are inefficient. When workers get Wednesday off as well the weekend, the research shows they're much more efficient. So the workers often end up doing as much work or even more work then they would in a 5 day week in 4 days. Go figure.
Hearing the first girl talk I was actually just thinking how much work actually gets done or are they just forced to stay at the office ?
There are studies going on right now that are indicating that 954 is even more beneficial to mental health and productivity than 955. 996 is insane.
I know and I love it. Didn't productivity actually go up or something? I'm getting ready for the excuses. "We can't adopt that, it won't work here!" "What if we tried?" "What if it fails!" "Well then we'll know, won't we?" "I'm not willing to take that risk, are you?" "Y E S"
Did the study tell you another little secret no one gets to retire early working for someone else?
Actually when i visited my grandparents in the village here in Africa growing up we didn't work on Wednesday becuase it was a traditional religious spiritual day and on Sundays cause it was a Christian religious day, rest of the time we were up by sunrise and working whatever the work was for that day, its important to rest
I think its still in practice now even
I vaguely remember that most of the time they noticed no productivity change at all for the company but it lead to the employees having more productive lives to learn more skills, work other jobs, etc (Better for the economy) and have better mental health.
The fact that Nicole doesn't want her real face and voice revealed, probably because she doesn't want to be blacklisted from this industry for revealing how terrible it is 😥
and deal with reprisals.....
What’s worse, if her boss found the video, he/she will bombard all of the company’s both private and open Wechat group to investigate who she is, and in the most of the case, the person would be find out and fired
No, the whole industry is complaining about it. Everyone knows everyone else is complaining. Yet, no one could or is willing to escape such working conditions because the salary is really high. New graduates from good universities can get half-million RMB in their first year and salaries can double in few years. While the median income in metropolitans in China is 80K.
COMMUNIST CHINA WHAT DO YOU EXPECT.
There is a Netflix documentary about a chinese company that moved to US. They used both chinese and americans hand work. The chinese were far better in producing (because they were used to work in a non human work system) but the american started to get injured, rejected dangerous tasks that american wouldnt accept but chinese would. And the sindicate pushed the company to attend the America safety rules. They dont care about their people and see themself as hard workers while the rest of world is lazy.
I used to work 10 hours a day, 11am to 9pm, a few times a week, usually getting 60 hours a week and the sentiment of coming home and not being able to take part in anything that you enjoy his so close to home. Because 11am is still relatively early and 9pm is already quite late, so it basically takes up your entire day. I can't believe what it's like for her since she's doing more work and it's also the norm.
I taught Chinese students when I worked at VIPKid and I had a 12-year-old tell me she goes to a tech school in Harbin and they make them go from 9 AM to 9 PM. I couldn't believe it. I thought that was insane to do to kids. But now I see that they are just preparing them for their inevitable future... so sad!
True, I'm from southeast asia and when i watched east asia stories and saw their students staying at school for long hours and some even go to cram schools, i was mindblown and super glad that i live where i am. It's not the greatest country, but at least i could live my life properly as a kid/teen.
Yep, we had that in high school Guangzhou, students study(or I should say work) from 8am to 10pm( lunch breaks and dinner breaks in between). I remember I could barely get out of the bed from the dorm early morning 6:30. Have had enough of that shit seriously.
@@joku6764 America is not the problem. Chinese governmental system is. They choose to crush the invividual over the collective.
Vip kid shutting off foreign teachers and cutting back hours tho
I was homeschooled in the early '00s. 8th - 12th grade was essentially 996, 9 months out of the year. (Mostly core subjects too - I wasn't in band or sports.) Turns out now that I'm mentally slow. Not less intelligent than average, I just have a sluggish processing speed. I overthink everything. I double and triple check everything. I'm not sure if my education caused the slow processing speed, or if it was necessary for me to learn the way I did because I was already slow. At any rate, I hate it. Leads to so much anxiety about work. Why can't I just speed up and think like a normal person?
Yet as a (maybe spoiled) German I still think 8 hours at the office is a very long time… 6 is fine for concentration and productivity and a good work-life-balance.
6??? Usual is 7.5 hours in UK
@Lo Me Then don't sit at home, go outside.
@Lo Me 6 hours is a long time to sit in an office being watched constantly. Not to mention people also commute 2h+ to the office and back home.
@Lo Me don't know about you, but if I worked six hours a day I wouldn't be sitting at home the rest of the time lmao. I'd walk my dog everyday, spend more time with the family, watch a movie, finish that book...
@Lo Me you do know they're the most productive economy per hour worked in the entire world right? Their standard of living is very close to the United States and they work much less than America and way less than China
There a concept called the Night shift.
It’s when you hire more people who job is to take over after the regular workers go home to rest and not work 24/7.
Everyone gets rest and the work gets done ✅
What baffles me is that Chinese companies don't all have workers there 24/7. You would think that they could have 3 shifts of 8 hours a day and just hire the best employees from their competition. _Poaching_ talent from other companies is a viable strategy if you have no morality.
in china a lot of blue collar work is done in shifts but because of the lack of unions most companies also dont pay overtime. if you have full 24 hour days with 3 shifts you are only paying full wages without getting the free overtime you would normally get. so i think thats a big reason why they dont just hire more people.
Toyota did an experiment in their workshops in Norway. Two shifts each 6 hours. 6-12 and 12-18. This will allow for costumers to leave car in workshop before work and pick it up after work. Workers are happy and costumers are happy. Improving costumer rating and in the end bottom line. An other example is the open space office. Which is proven to reduce productivity and generally is much worse that single or shared offices. So what does most companies do? 8 hour days and in open office. ALL of them, this is knowledge known for decades and yet they insist of picking the worst possible option, why? control! plain and simple, Control! management want control, and management are over represented in scoring high in psychopathy. There are many in management that gets a high making your life miserable.
At my job, there are 3 shifts. 12 hours day, 12 hours night, with the third shift covering weekends. The factory never stops operations, it's a constant flow
@@richcast66 that seems to suck, it should be at least 5 shifts.
Wow this really reminds me of my type of work as a caregiver, it's stressful work, dealing with Alzheimer's and dementia. I often time work double shifts 4 or 5 days out of the week so that my check can be something I can work with. The work is grueling and the turnover rate is high. 16 hr shifts are no joke after a while. Then sometimes after that I still can't sleep for reasons I don't understand sometimes my body is just on go mode. All though we are countries apart we share many similarities.
I feel so sad for the lady. She is feeling so down. God bless you, I pray you find the courage to change your situation and make the choice to look after yourself. You deserve better. 🌻
You feel bad for the lady who is suffering the same fate as 99% of the world? Okay I guess
I think they have no god
Courage to change the situation? It’s not courage, it’s to survive financially. You’re so naive
That executive woman sounds like she's on her way towards depression and/or suicide, or quitting her job entirely.
Hopefully the last one
If she's making 80k a year and doesnt have any time to spend money anyway, then she should be able to save and invest quite a lot and get out of this after a few years. Then work a laid back job and subsidise her lifestyle with those investments... i hope she isnt wasting it all on a huge appartment she isnt ever using or status symbols.
Hopefully Quitting
You can’t just quit in China. You are a mere cog in the communist machine. If you quit, it’ll show in your record and you’re unemployable. Social credit will go down and you’ll never get a decent job. Blackmail on every level of life.
@@Soff1859 Chinese people are very limited to what they can invest in. its not easy to buy American stocks for example.
For four years in my twenties I worked away from home, sleeping in one or two star motels working 5-6 days a week, +10 hour days. There was a period of time were I worked 20 days straight. I refuse to live my life like this. These years of my life are gone and I will never get them back.
My life is like this now. It's hell. Need to get out of it. I'm on my fourth year, and reading this felt like a sign.
Id love to know how Nicole is doing now. Its been two years since this doc was uploaded. I think about her alot, I hope shes ok
I've been playing this game for some time now. It's basically a death match that pits workers against each other, and where the ultimate prize is the privilege to work even more hours and maybe a pat on the back from the boss.
I wonder what this world would look like if people did want they WANTED as opposed to what they fall into. I personally would love to cut grass and plant flowers cleaning trash off the ground is like an orgasim for me...but who would pay someone to do that? It's odd that we all work in a society doing the things we think we should be dojng and not doing the things we want to do because it's structured in a way that can't allow it.
@@Ryan-nn1kl just an idea but you could have been a professional landscaper. A gardener. A plant shop owner. If you’re really passionate about something, there is a way to turn it into making a living.
@@Ryan-nn1kl
Why don't you work as a gardener then?
There's a channel on TH-cam with the name "The Boring Channel", and the guy basically just documents how he cuts grass and does garden makeovers. You should definitely check that channel out! ✌️
Lame
@@Ryan-nn1kl my dude do it! I started painting houses at 18 and got into maintenance , now I manage a retirement cooperative, doing all kinds of odd jobs
It’s actually kinda sad bc my mom also worked about 70 hours a week at her old job for 4 years (she is a single mother and she had to because of bills and everything) and now that I’m older she told me how alone and depressed she felt during those years of her life I personally don’t think anyone should have to work that much because you might as well not even have a life
not just work but fact she's a single mom family is composed of 2 parents or at least it should but we don't live in perfect world
also, the whole feminist movement ruined a lot of people lives
@@ko-Daegu The feminist movement was designed to give women a choice and be financially able to get out of abusive home situations. The top 1% has perpetuated this girlboss mentality that causes the trouble you see today. Men are becoming disenfranchised by a society that seemingly undervalues them and women are taught that we're worthless if we don't bring in a paycheck.
@@ko-Daegu it's fault of irresponsable fathers
She should have thought before letting your dead beat dad bust in her
@@ko-Daegu you completely missed the point. Also why are you bringing feminism into this? You have no idea why their mother is a single mother, and it is none of your business.
Also a sad fact that it doesn’t only effect those who working in this culture, but those who left as well. Many of my elder family who been working 996 their whole life feels uncomfortable after retired, and their mindset still in the state of cannot stop think about work.
Weed will show people how to relax and not work in down time
@@sadhu7191 they get their head chopped if they smoke weed in china
@@sadhu7191 Bless this message lol
@@sadhu7191 lol
@@dragomegaman3711 north korea hits joint. I live in communist country with true freedom of no responsibility of self but lose meaning of life and self in proccess. hits joint. Maybe I should hold responsibility of lifes horrors to give life meaning.
as a middle-aged man from China , I can totally feel them. and I'm so bad for those people and also myself.
This reminds me of working as a courier driver in New Zealand. start at 6am hopefully finish by 6pm at the latest. 6 days per week. I'd get home after work, shower, maybe eat something quick and go to sleep, and repeat. I was stuck in a contract where if I wanted a day off, I would have to pay for another driver to take my place for between $550 - $880 per day (my daily earnings - $150 per day)
Needless to say I have now quit that job, and it had taken me at least a month to recover my sense of who I was before.
Thanks for sharing your story. If i may ask, what are you doing now? Do you already have plan in place before you quit truck job?
Hey man, what courier company was this for? This would be a major news story if you gave it to the media. Any major company?
Hard to imagine New Zealand company can exhaust workers like that. Truck drivers are good jobs in America.
Sounds stressful. I was thinking they didn’t even include travel time to and from work. In China, that’d be 1-2 hours on the bus, train, and subway. They also didn’t mention the outlandish rent in the cities. I just don’t believe it’s worth $75k, as claimed. It’s not much in a city. I’d rather have some crap job and buy a house in the country than work my butt off in the city paying rent but never owning. Also, I think those hours would feel incredibly lonely. Life = work
@There Is No Sandwich Guy hasn't responded to any questions, fake story by a bot.
Growing up studying in Malaysia in my high school years, I saw this pattern from my friends, and they feel this is normal because everybody does it. When I left Malaysia to the UK for further studies, I have made up my mind to stay in the UK, work life balance is visible, aiding me in this decision was when I was in France to do my project in my second year of university, French people have labour laws that no one should contact each other for work purposes after work hours. I now work for a Fortune company top 100 in the EU, I am fortunate to have no debts to pay and be able to live the decision that happiness comes first before work. I feel so happy going to work Monday to Friday with the choice to work remotely available.
Not everyone has the privilege to do this, but one has to take a stand in order for changes to happen.
My father worked very hard to make it to the US, scrounged what he could to go to college, and fought his way to become a manager at a big tech company in the 90s. Because of him, I'm able to have work life balance in the US if I want simply because I'm in a country with a leading economy that excels in scalable industries.
When you have razer thin margins (manufacturing, QA) or questionable law processes that drain margins in countries such as China, work life balance could easily kill a company. They're an export company servicing wealthier buyers, so they're on the wrong end of controlling whether or not they can achieve work life balance. We (the US and UK) also have the benefit of extremely strong military/political backings that allow for more white collar jobs with higher margins, simply because the rest of the world uses our currency + services due to that kind of massive leverage.
The ability to have work life balance is a direct result of scalable industries, a lot of which are non-repeatable and winner-takes-all (tech/finance), which requires a less fortunate country/consumer to tank the costs. So really, I'm a bit conflicted. Perhaps taking an aggressive stand for work life balance in countries such as the US/UK may level the playing field, potentially ruining the advantages that allow us the luxury of a large chunk of our population achieving work life balance.
hi what is your job, i am going to uni this year and i really want to hear your story u really gave me hope about working
Everyone should take a stance for change🤔🤔🤔
Not in Malaysia.
Only govt servants get a better life.. ie... TheSonsOfTheEarth.
The rest better work ur ass off...
The menial workers do 997, maybe off one day a month.
How can you stay in UK? You're not a refugee.
@@LordOfSweden Uh... People living in countries where they aren't from are quite common, actually. Refugiees or not.
This problem is partly rooted in ego, thinking you are special and that you can indeed push more hours than the guy beside you. Trust me, the owner of the company loves this endless competition amongst peasants. If you were to accept your human condition and your limitations you would realize how dumb all this is.
Dang. Blunt but true.
Couldn't say it better myself.
Spot on
This BS of "you are special" is pushed into our minds when we are kids. It's very difficult to escape from this prison.
I work extra hours to try and help my coworkers, I don't want them to be alone if I can help. 💕
I mean, 12hr work day is kinda common here in NZ, too... but the 6th and 7th days are usually optional in my profession.
I feel so sorry for Nicole, I just want to give her a hug.
give me instead, i need one
you don't even know her, wtf
So you can cop a feel?
@@munkeo You dont need to know person like Kobe Bryant or Mahatma Gandhi to feel sad about their dead. It called Empathy bro
@@JibbarJabbar ayo pause, wtf?
Guys, this just proves that reality is what we make of it. Society is what we make of it. So keep fighting.
Exactly, with Automation, AI, and all our modern tech we should all be working less and sharing more. Old economic ideas feed into greed and mostly benefit the extremely-wealthy. Modern politics is mostly a smoke-screen and the populace gets dumber and dumber (imo).
People need to wake up and pay attention to the REAL issues that can benefit humans the most. We don't need to have wars (say USA vs. China) nor 40+ h work weeks just to get by. We are worshiping fake gods (say USD or CNY fiat currencies).
@@squig808 The US spent 2.5 trillion dollars on the Afghan conflict, 2.5 TRILLION! Imagine what that would do if it was invested in worthwhile, peaceful causes? It could put the entire population of the US through college. The amount of hospitals and schools that could be built; it could turn the US into a fucking utopia! It's fucking sickening!
@@homosexualpanic utopia is impossible
@@homosexualpanic & they made MORE going to war. War is a business. Don’t get it twisted.
Most of the people I saw working in Shenzhen were coming in at 9:30AM and leaving at 6:30PM with half hour lunch and our company specifically had a 1 hour nap time.. but what would I know I only lived and worked there for a year...
Definitely understand ming. Tried working at couple popular call centers in my country and I just could not do it, i cried everyday, id loose my incentives if I was even 1 min over my pee break and the calls were none stop. Felt so weak that I couldn't handle it when some people were there for over 10 years. Still not over it, feel defeated.
callcenters are the worst, dont beat yourself up for not handling inhumane pressure and remember that maybe some people have advantages over others because of a supervisor/superior that favors them. or maybe they really really REALLY like speaking and tricking clients into buying stuff/make deals that are actually very bad for the client long-term wise
Don’t feel defeated, you have standards
I was in a similar situation. Took many months to recover. Hope you’ve seen improvement.
I also work 996 style in US, the reason I do this is the people I work with is so smart and also very hardworking, if I don’t work hard enough I may never get promoted or even get laid off
She clearly has a passion in music. She used to play guitar after work but now just swipping and sleep. That could be a minor issue for some but for me that is sad as I can relate with my experience as well. But thank God I quit the job before its getting too late. Had to go thru income-less months and started my small business and earn half as compared to the previous salary. But, my mental health is tip top and I'm so happy!
Thank you! This is validating 🙏🏻🤍✨
Happy for you. Nobody deserves treating themselves like automatons until crapping out.
I did one year a 16h working schedule. Shit almost killed me.
If you are working that much, with the little time you have on earth, I'm sorry, but you are working for other people to live while you die.
It's same for all asian countries.
She's clearly getting depressed
I think going without income and starting a business is maybe not the best solution for 99% of people. Congrats on finding a solution for you.
These people are not living, they simply exist - nothing more.
Dear, you can easily be working from home and still be earning probably double of what your employer pays you