I liked that these stories also borrow from Batman's time spent in Metropolis in Superman's absence. He not only drives himself beyond his human limits, but alienates his allies.
I wouldn’t compare Batman in knightfall with the dark knight returns at all because here Bruce’s heart is in the right place it’s just he’s not considering his health.
Whenever I look at this panel of Batman screaming 15:59 I think of that scene from the Batman the animated series episode “I am the night” when Batman yells in the bat cave. I think it fits.
@@SalazarKnight Yeah, By the way when talking about Bane breaking all the inmates out of Arkham I think it was a great choice to have "the childhood remembered" music from the 1989 Batman movie playing in the background.
I've always loved the Knightfall storyline. It's just an exciting and compelling narrative. I also love your take on this, I agree that this run really emphasized and highlights Batman's humanity and flaws, but not in a negative or angst-ridden way. Bruce's heart is in the right place, but sometimes he can over stretch himself, physically and mentally, and be his own worst enemy. I always look forward to your videos and this is another awesome take on a classic story. You have great insight into and love for the characters. Thank you, because no one on TH-cam (or in DC's official documentaries) is doing exactly what you are doing with examining and covering Batman's history. I've learned so much from your videos. 🙂🦇
Knightfall is already here. I really love your reviews on the caped crusader. 7:31 I missed that song, it brings me back to the Bronze Bat. Classic BGM by Adrian von Ziegler.
What if Knightfall had been released these days? I bet fans of the most badass and brainless Batman, like the ones from New 52 and DCEU, would suffer a complete mental breakdown when the see Batman having his ass kicked. When you have your hero be kicked in the ass, you want them to prevail and know how to defeat the bad guy by themselves (yes, I'm looking at you, Tom King).
I'm catching up on all the Knightfall videos since I hadn't had the time of following them when released, and holy cow, not only the passion and care you have for this character is always present and makes the whole viewing experience so pleasant (nothing better than listening someone talking about what they love... especially if it's about Batman ahaha), but the way you've evolved technically since the early videos, while still maintaining a very recognizable stylistic identity is so great. I will always be thankful for the care you put into every part of this episodic documentary about the history of the Batman, because it allowed me to expand my knowledge about this character I've always loved, and discover what are now some of my favorite stories ever, always knowing that your analysis would be a very thoughtful and interested P.O.V. to start from. I would say something like "keep up the good work, if it makes you happy!", but judging by the commitment you've always put into this project, I'm sure that it makes you happy, so: take care, stay safe and keep doing what you love!
I would argue that this is a continuation of the character traits from that Tim, Nightwing, and Alfred pointed out. Since the death of Jason, he cut himself off from his emotions and increased his carelessness and violence. This trend has continued, and even though Tim is now Robin, he is not a constant presence in the life of Bruce as he lives and cares for his father and is not in the mansion. The difference is that instead of taking Robin into danger to slow himself down and consider his actions, he instead reacts by sending Robin away. This trend will continue into the No Man's Land. This is also becomes a later source of frustration and friction in the relationship of Bruce Wayne and Tim Drake.
You know your badass when you can go through days with your nose bleeding. I’ve had bad nosebleeds in my life and I’ve hated it every time especially when I was at school in public.
You are such a good storyteller. I tell you, I'm always on the edge of my seat during your videos. You've got to write some of your own fiction! Please.
I must admit to being a little perplexed on Bruce's reaction to his initial "failure": it's not like a villain hadn't escaped before, and Lucius _was_ saved. In normal circumstances Batman would've grit his teeth with "Next time, Black Mask... " Then again, it seems he was already feeling a sudden "mid-life crisis" of sorts, so maybe that was all it took: he felt like he was losing his edge, and one villain's escape "confirms" it to him. There's also some debate that Superman's death contributes to Bruce's breakdown, too... though I personally don't really see how. At this point, while they were certainly respected colleagues, they were hardly the bosom buddies of old (Frank Miller saw to that).
13:47 Was Superman still dead at the time? It looks like he's wearing a black Armband with the Superman Logo on it? I wonder if the loss of his friend/better half had an affect on him too?
@@saidi7975 Yes, but I mean was it another factor contributing to him being mentally off when Bane finally landed his "killing blow" in an attempt to end Batman's career?
King of the batman comics returns. We finally came to the part where I started reading batman comics. After this, all vidoes will be a review and nostalgia for me. It will be more enjoyable to hear your comments and compare them with mine 😁 issue by issue
What's great is that this is also where I started reading/collecting Batman comics. It's so good to know this, as it is definitely nostalgic for me as well to go back and reread this amazing story. Glad to have you along for the ride!
Black Mask! I love him! One of the great underrated Batman villains. I love the fact that they introduced him as a somewhat gimmicky villain and gradually made him darker. Such as when his gang started out wearing cheap Halloween masks, but then began breaking into art museums at night, murdering the guards, and stealing African tribal masks for their new disguises. Black Mask himself slowly went insane, becoming convinced that a mannequin was his old girlfriend Circe. Such a great character. And then Ewan McGregor made him a joke in BIRDS OF PREY - one aspect of an otherwise enjoyable movie that I did NOT like.
Wow, you have outdone yourself with this review Mr Knight. Your analysis and critiques are concise and in-depth as I have come to expect but here its even more impressive considering how many issues you had to cover in just one video. This run explored the humanity of Bruce Wayne more extensivly than any other Batman comic before it, we had seen glimpses in 'A Death In The Family' but here we were invited to feel much more empathy with Bruce as he fights a one man battle against impossible odds on many levels. Thanks for letting us know which issue your gateway into the Batman universe was, a very good place to start it is too. I still remember how delighted I was to see Black Mask returning to the title back then, he has always been one of my favorite characters. I think its a real shame that Doug Moench didn't do more with him and the Red Witch. Unfortunately the Black Mask which came after No Man's Land was never the same after or since. Personally speaking my introduction to Batman in comics was back in 1982 and I haven't forgot how thrilling and engaging that first experience was.
I can only imagine how exciting it would've been to experience the Batman comics in the 80s! The decade that effectively defined the modern iteration of the chatacter. Thank you for such a nice comment!
@@SalazarKnightThe comic in question was Batman #349 'Blood Sport' where Batman hardly appeard at all instead featuring Robin in peril throughout, it was radically different from the Batman 66 version from TV, the only thing I had to compare it to. The visuals within were disturbing and captivating to my young eyes owing to the practiced pencils of Gene Colon whom was somewhat of an expert in drawing horror comics and not discounting Alfredo Alcala's atmospheric inks setting the scenes of foreboding perfectly. The coming years I picked up many more Batmans from the nearby newspaper stores (remember when you could actually do that!) I was baffled when I came across my first Detective Comic, expecting the numbering to follow on with the Batman comics which I thought was the same, It took a while to suss out that that title came first. Thank you for taking the time to reply back to me it means a lot.
Hey Salazar, another great video. I have a recommendation for a potential Robin-related video: could you do a video detailing the later life of the original Golden Age Dick Grayson? The stories that showcase him as an adult who has taken over the reins from Batman? There are barely - if any - videos on TH-cam that talk about the later life of Earth-2 Robin. Hell he even became the batman of the justice league for a time - where he wore that costume that combined elements of the Batsuit and his original Robin costume. You could also do video that talks about the later life of the Earth-2 Batman. How he married Catwoman and had a daughter that became the huntress. How he became the police commissioner after Gordon and eventually died in a fight to the death with a criminal.
All it takes is a perfectly well orchestrated and drawn out gauntlet of all his enemies. In fact, Bane should have by all means ultimatley won: it was only due to freak coincidences like Bruce already having met a potential successor (Jean-Paul) and happening to meet a healer almost tailored to fixing his back (Shondra Kinsolving) - that he was even able to come back as Batman at all
@@SalazarKnight lo se bro, es increíble que no tuvieras más subs pero en el último video ví que había más apoyo y estoy seguro que si regresas tendrás más apoyo, pero descuida bro, cuando quieras regresar por mi parte yo si te apoyaría con tus vídeos, compartiendo, mientras trataré de ver tus vídeos en inglés, aún que mi inglés no es muy bueno jajaja
I think Bane is an overrated villain, and that's pretty much the only thing I have against ranking knightfall as a higher story, because it is a story about Batman's weakness and how he overcomes it long term. Plus I love how it gave so more attention to Tim Drake. Also I don't have the Prelude book, I only have the three large collections of knightfall. Are any of the stories in the Prelude exclusive to it and not in the three volumes? If so, I want to buy it.
Depends on the versions you have. The latest omnibus reprints everything including the prelude, but prior collections to that one separate the prelude from the main story; which makes it weird as Batman begins Knightfall already exhausted and there is little context to that without the prelude.
The covers were. . . something. I g9 back and forth on them as they are distinct from the internal art. But when they started doing the internal art after Knightfall. . . ZZI couldn't stand it.
I liked that these stories also borrow from Batman's time spent in Metropolis in Superman's absence. He not only drives himself beyond his human limits, but alienates his allies.
Batman 487 was not just the first Batman comic I ever read, but the first comic I ever owned.
I wouldn’t compare Batman in knightfall with the dark knight returns at all because here Bruce’s heart is in the right place it’s just he’s not considering his health.
Agreed
I would add the "Venom" arc to this saga. The drug was the same stuff that Bane uses and that story showed Batman's weaknesses
Whenever I look at this panel of Batman screaming 15:59 I think of that scene from the Batman the animated series episode “I am the night” when Batman yells in the bat cave. I think it fits.
You're absolutely right! It's quite similar, isn't it?
@@SalazarKnight Yeah, By the way when talking about Bane breaking all the inmates out of Arkham I think it was a great choice to have "the childhood remembered" music from the 1989 Batman movie playing in the background.
I'm glad you noticed! I had to tone it down a bit to avoid copyright, but it definitely fits the mood.
@@SalazarKnight Yes. That music sounds like something from a horror movie mad props to Danny Elfman for that music.
Mr. Salazar it's always great to read Batman stories where Bruce doesn't always win and actually emphasizes his biggest weaknesses.
I've always loved the Knightfall storyline. It's just an exciting and compelling narrative. I also love your take on this, I agree that this run really emphasized and highlights Batman's humanity and flaws, but not in a negative or angst-ridden way. Bruce's heart is in the right place, but sometimes he can over stretch himself, physically and mentally, and be his own worst enemy. I always look forward to your videos and this is another awesome take on a classic story. You have great insight into and love for the characters. Thank you, because no one on TH-cam (or in DC's official documentaries) is doing exactly what you are doing with examining and covering Batman's history. I've learned so much from your videos. 🙂🦇
And I thank you for writing such positive and lovely comments. You really have no idea how much I appreciate it!
Agreed
Knightfall is already here. I really love your reviews on the caped crusader.
7:31 I missed that song, it brings me back to the Bronze Bat. Classic BGM by Adrian von Ziegler.
What if Knightfall had been released these days? I bet fans of the most badass and brainless Batman, like the ones from New 52 and DCEU, would suffer a complete mental breakdown when the see Batman having his ass kicked.
When you have your hero be kicked in the ass, you want them to prevail and know how to defeat the bad guy by themselves (yes, I'm looking at you, Tom King).
Another great video, SK. I'm thoroughly loving this Knightfall series so far and I can't wait to see where it goes next! No spoilers 😉
Coming from you, this means a lot! No spoilers sure, but I can promise you all the feelings of déjà vu!
This is the channel that I share with anyone I can. Been a fan for a while now and other Bat Fans need to see Batman's insane history.
I'm catching up on all the Knightfall videos since I hadn't had the time of following them when released, and holy cow, not only the passion and care you have for this character is always present and makes the whole viewing experience so pleasant (nothing better than listening someone talking about what they love... especially if it's about Batman ahaha), but the way you've evolved technically since the early videos, while still maintaining a very recognizable stylistic identity is so great. I will always be thankful for the care you put into every part of this episodic documentary about the history of the Batman, because it allowed me to expand my knowledge about this character I've always loved, and discover what are now some of my favorite stories ever, always knowing that your analysis would be a very thoughtful and interested P.O.V. to start from. I would say something like "keep up the good work, if it makes you happy!", but judging by the commitment you've always put into this project, I'm sure that it makes you happy, so: take care, stay safe and keep doing what you love!
Thanks for the comment! Your feedback is really the only thing that keeps me going so thank you for that!
All these issues, I still have them in my collection.
Awesome video, and great job showcasing Batman’s shortcomings in the Knightfall era.
Thank you! I'm really glad you liked it.
I would argue that this is a continuation of the character traits from that Tim, Nightwing, and Alfred pointed out. Since the death of Jason, he cut himself off from his emotions and increased his carelessness and violence. This trend has continued, and even though Tim is now Robin, he is not a constant presence in the life of Bruce as he lives and cares for his father and is not in the mansion. The difference is that instead of taking Robin into danger to slow himself down and consider his actions, he instead reacts by sending Robin away. This trend will continue into the No Man's Land. This is also becomes a later source of frustration and friction in the relationship of Bruce Wayne and Tim Drake.
This must have been a crazy first exposure into a Batman comic. It’s a shockingly low, human point in Bruce Wayne’s life. Very interesting.
You know your badass when you can go through days with your nose bleeding. I’ve had bad nosebleeds in my life and I’ve hated it every time especially when I was at school in public.
I can relate used to get nose bleeds all the time in school always hated but also it came with some advantages.
So did I.
I really love The Joker's characterization in "The Freedom Of Madness".
Great video as always. Knightfall is probably my favorite Batman storyline.
You are such a good storyteller. I tell you, I'm always on the edge of my seat during your videos.
You've got to write some of your own fiction! Please.
I have seriously considered that and maybe I will someday. I might probably crowdfund my way to that goal eventually. Thanks for the compliment!
I must admit to being a little perplexed on Bruce's reaction to his initial "failure": it's not like a villain hadn't escaped before, and Lucius _was_ saved. In normal circumstances Batman would've grit his teeth with "Next time, Black Mask... " Then again, it seems he was already feeling a sudden "mid-life crisis" of sorts, so maybe that was all it took: he felt like he was losing his edge, and one villain's escape "confirms" it to him.
There's also some debate that Superman's death contributes to Bruce's breakdown, too... though I personally don't really see how. At this point, while they were certainly respected colleagues, they were hardly the bosom buddies of old (Frank Miller saw to that).
one of my favorite segment's from batman's history. a stark example of the character being written RESPECTABLY.
13:47 Was Superman still dead at the time? It looks like he's wearing a black Armband with the Superman Logo on it? I wonder if the loss of his friend/better half had an affect on him too?
Clark was dead at the time. It probably has an effect on Bruce.. hell it had an effect on Lobo of all beings !
@@saidi7975 Yes, but I mean was it another factor contributing to him being mentally off when Bane finally landed his "killing blow" in an attempt to end Batman's career?
King of the batman comics returns. We finally came to the part where I started reading batman comics. After this, all vidoes will be a review and nostalgia for me. It will be more enjoyable to hear your comments and compare them with mine 😁 issue by issue
What's great is that this is also where I started reading/collecting Batman comics. It's so good to know this, as it is definitely nostalgic for me as well to go back and reread this amazing story. Glad to have you along for the ride!
@@SalazarKnight looks like there is much to discuss ahead 😂
I've been looking forward to this
It's finally here!
AMAZING!!!!!!, i love your narrative and the conclusion of the video, I agree.
Black Mask! I love him! One of the great underrated Batman villains. I love the fact that they introduced him as a somewhat gimmicky villain and gradually made him darker. Such as when his gang started out wearing cheap Halloween masks, but then began breaking into art museums at night, murdering the guards, and stealing African tribal masks for their new disguises. Black Mask himself slowly went insane, becoming convinced that a mannequin was his old girlfriend Circe. Such a great character. And then Ewan McGregor made him a joke in BIRDS OF PREY - one aspect of an otherwise enjoyable movie that I did NOT like.
Wow, you have outdone yourself with this review Mr Knight. Your analysis and critiques are concise and in-depth as I have come to expect but here its even more impressive considering how many issues you had to cover in just one video. This run explored the humanity of Bruce Wayne more extensivly than any other Batman comic before it, we had seen glimpses in 'A Death In The Family' but here we were invited to feel much more empathy with Bruce as he fights a one man battle against impossible odds on many levels. Thanks for letting us know which issue your gateway into the Batman universe was, a very good place to start it is too. I still remember how delighted I was to see Black Mask returning to the title back then, he has always been one of my favorite characters. I think its a real shame that Doug Moench didn't do more with him and the Red Witch. Unfortunately the Black Mask which came after No Man's Land was never the same after or since. Personally speaking my introduction to Batman in comics was back in 1982 and I haven't forgot how thrilling and engaging that first experience was.
I can only imagine how exciting it would've been to experience the Batman comics in the 80s! The decade that effectively defined the modern iteration of the chatacter. Thank you for such a nice comment!
@@SalazarKnightThe comic in question was Batman #349 'Blood Sport' where Batman hardly appeard at all instead featuring Robin in peril throughout, it was radically different from the Batman 66 version from TV, the only thing I had to compare it to. The visuals within were disturbing and captivating to my young eyes owing to the practiced pencils of Gene Colon whom was somewhat of an expert in drawing horror comics and not discounting Alfredo Alcala's atmospheric inks setting the scenes of foreboding perfectly. The coming years I picked up many more Batmans from the nearby newspaper stores (remember when you could actually do that!) I was baffled when I came across my first Detective Comic, expecting the numbering to follow on with the Batman comics which I thought was the same, It took a while to suss out that that title came first. Thank you for taking the time to reply back to me it means a lot.
Great videos. I was a kid in the 90s so I had no idea what was going on in the comics.
Hey Salazar, another great video. I have a recommendation for a potential Robin-related video: could you do a video detailing the later life of the original Golden Age Dick Grayson? The stories that showcase him as an adult who has taken over the reins from Batman? There are barely - if any - videos on TH-cam that talk about the later life of Earth-2 Robin. Hell he even became the batman of the justice league for a time - where he wore that costume that combined elements of the Batsuit and his original Robin costume. You could also do video that talks about the later life of the Earth-2 Batman. How he married Catwoman and had a daughter that became the huntress. How he became the police commissioner after Gordon and eventually died in a fight to the death with a criminal.
I see your videos, and I immediately listen and like. Godspeed
I see your comments and I immediately like and heart :)
Como siempre excelente video 👏👏👏
this set of comicbooks is great enough to be an excellent story... and it's only the prelude
Awesome stuff dude! I'd love for more stuff about knightfall but I wonder if you'd ever do more modern stuff like Scott Synders run, White Knight etc.
Thank you! More Knightfall is coming, so keep an eye out for that! And sure, modern stuff is cool and someday I'll get there!
Love the Smashing Pumpkins / Batman Forever reference!
Ah, pre- no Man's Land 90's Batman, how I adore thee...
All it takes is a perfectly well orchestrated and drawn out gauntlet of all his enemies. In fact, Bane should have by all means ultimatley won: it was only due to freak coincidences like Bruce already having met a potential successor (Jean-Paul) and happening to meet a healer almost tailored to fixing his back (Shondra Kinsolving) - that he was even able to come back as Batman at all
2:24 Something I like about a certain Marvel Hero.
Knightfall is INCREDIBLE!!!
knightfall is intense.
Bro, I still waiting for you in your another channel Arkham Comics, the History of Batman in Spanish, I hope you want to back
Gracias, pero no hay mucha gente en ese canal. No se realmente cuando volveré.
@@SalazarKnight lo se bro, es increíble que no tuvieras más subs pero en el último video ví que había más apoyo y estoy seguro que si regresas tendrás más apoyo, pero descuida bro, cuando quieras regresar por mi parte yo si te apoyaría con tus vídeos, compartiendo, mientras trataré de ver tus vídeos en inglés, aún que mi inglés no es muy bueno jajaja
Even the best falls Batman and Spider-Man are my greatest heroes 🦇🕷️
8:45
Superman: am I a joke to you
In 486 they even wondered if Metalhead was JPV since the suits were very similar. At least that’s what I remember from almost 30 years ago 🤪
So, Batman was broken from the get-go. And that explains how Killer Croc broke his arm by Bane.
Yo, I’m your 200th like on this video 😎
Are these copies going to become valuable in the future? From an investment point of view?
Hardly. There are too many copies already out there.
YESSSSSS!!!!
Superman is dead here, damn.
Todd too
I think Bane is an overrated villain, and that's pretty much the only thing I have against ranking knightfall as a higher story, because it is a story about Batman's weakness and how he overcomes it long term. Plus I love how it gave so more attention to Tim Drake. Also I don't have the Prelude book, I only have the three large collections of knightfall. Are any of the stories in the Prelude exclusive to it and not in the three volumes? If so, I want to buy it.
Depends on the versions you have. The latest omnibus reprints everything including the prelude, but prior collections to that one separate the prelude from the main story; which makes it weird as Batman begins Knightfall already exhausted and there is little context to that without the prelude.
Anybody else hate some of the recolored art?
The heck is this chiming sound in the bgm? Super dumb
I cringe every time I see a Kelly Jones cover.. I hear he is a wonderful person but his art is so off-putting to me.
The covers were. . . something. I g9 back and forth on them as they are distinct from the internal art. But when they started doing the internal art after Knightfall. . . ZZI couldn't stand it.
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