How to avoid brow heaviness with forehead anti-wrinkle injections
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ธ.ค. 2024
- Dr. Gavin Chan MBBS, General Registration (MED0001175745) discusses how to have anti-wrinkle injections to your forehead without causing heaviness or drop of the brow or eyelids.
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I'm 25 and I've noticed I permanently use my forehead muscle to elevate my eyelids. I do this daily without actually realising it. If I try to relax it, it's actually hard to keep it relaxed. Now I already have a wrinkle in my forehead due to this. But Whenever I relax this muscle it causes a lot of heaviness in my eyes and they droop a lot. I just look very sad when I relax my forehead because my eyes start to droop.
I’m the same exact way
My son is the same way !! Same age . It’s distinguished 😊
@@KH-xj5qw For men it’s “distinguished” lol. I’ve heard someone say this about my SO. He has very deep lines in his forehead and has had since he was in his 20’s. I think in women, though, we aren’t usually though of as looking “distinguished” when we have deep wrinkles, unfortunately!
I have the same 😬 i lift my brows up to get a more youthful, happy and pretty look in the eyes otherwise i look tired, sad and angry. But now 32 year old I've got deep wrinkles now in my forehead due to this.
I don't have money for eyebrow lift surgery, so I always lift them up. But it has caused wrinkles. I wanna do botox to lift them up but I'm scared. I tried once and my brows dropped even more and I looked so mad angry and even worse when relaxed
Ask your dr if you have ptosis? I do.
I scoffed at all cosmetic procedures, anti-aging stuff etc. Then I turned 50.
hahaha yes, I am turning 50 next year. . I didn't really scoff, but I definitely ignored the whole industry and had a "whatever makes one happy, but not for me." attitude. That has changed dramatically in the last 6 months. I think I might actually be on the menopausal train ? Because I see drastic changes in my face, over a very short period of time. So I have been learning a lot about the subject.
What I learned up till now : The only procedures I would get done if my eyes begin to droop, is the eye-lid reduction. If done well, it is seemles. And the second procedure I would get done, if the corners of my mouth begin to droop, is botox in the depressor anguli oris. It is about the only place where I would want botox on my face.
To keep my skin firm, with an even complexion and wrinkle free, I am betting my money on the aduro led face mask, that should be arriving any day now. I will see, when I turn 60, if it did anything and if I can postpone a face lift until I am 70 😃
To keep/get the muscle volume in my face and not get wrinkly doing weird faces in the mirror, I started using the Nuface microcurrent device last week 😄
And to top it off, today I bought a second hand HairMax laserband to counter hairloss, that apparently starts when one slips into menopause ? Who knew. 🤷♀️
We will see in 5 years if it was all worth it or not 😎
I’ve always been afraid of doing the Botox but I just turned 48 and I’m starting to see some aging signs especially in between the brows so now I’m considering it now. I will probably do it for the first time real soon. And just like he said I’ve started to unconsciously lift my right brow causing wrinkles to form only on my right side!
;D* younger boyfriend !
I'm 23 and I'm worrying about this now before it's too late
You are AMAZING! Finally someone clear, detailed, honest and thorough! Thank you SO much..i m bingeing on your videos! I have long suspected that filler lasts WAY longer than on label! Also loved the fat vs filler and this botox review! Really clarifies what I had to experience over the years through trial and error injections.
Botox saved me from migraines. Omg. It really helps.
I get headaches from furrowing my brows
Loved this! Great explanations for the average person who doesn’t work in the medical field. This really finally helped me understand everything!!!
I've always had high arched brows all my life. I love them. I also have hooded eyes though and my first Botox gave my very heavy lids which made my hoods even worse....
Omg me too! Well the first time was in between my brows and I was fine...loved it. Second time she convinced me to do forehead and one eyelid in particular feels awful and heavy. My eye lids were already so hooded I won't be doing that again or at least with that dose.
Love your videos Gavin. You are very good at explaining things at a level most can understand. As a practitioner (Cosmetic Nurse) I find your videos very informative. So thank you! :)
Thanks Celeste, your comments mean a lot, especially as you are a fellow practitioner.
3 years later since you filled my forehead winkles minimally and it held up very nicely.
I much rather have Spock eyebrows than droopy tired eyes, a high eyebrow arch (within limits) is a sign of youth. I like that look because it doesn't last and after a few days it goes down a bit and looks more natural.
You truly know your stuff..
+YonkelC thank you
Thank you for the very useful informations . you are the best one explained it to me . I have heavy eye lids and my eyebrows is dropped , I wished you were close by. Best regards
*Best* *video* *on* *this* *topic* ... *perfectly* *explained* *easy* *to* *understand* *and* *very* *informative*
*Thank* *You* 👌 ❤✌
Wow!! Thank you and so very helpful. Recently received Botox in my forehead and now I notice a heaviness on near my brow and forehead. I had no idea why. Once this wears away I will not have Botox in that area again. Thank you so much!
You just explained every problem I’ve ever had with Botox. Thank you so much!!
💪💜💪YES!! That's me..I work out ..and I have a Very small face.But I noticed my forehead looks like a skeleton.Your the BEST🙏🙏
In case after botox on forehead the brows and the eye lips drop down is it possible to put small 2points under the brows for balance ?
Dermal filling the forehead may be very dangerous exposing to blindness
I have had forehead lines since I was 20. I have had Botox in my forehead but had to stop. My forehead feels like a brick or a dead steak. I just accepted the lines. Thanks for the dermal filler suggestion.
How long was it before the heavy feeling wore off for you? My face feels like a brick too, it's horrible
Great info and rationales, I’m trying to learn as much as I can before going into a career, your shared knowledge is appreciated.
Please make video for botox neck bands ? Thanks Doctor. ❤
What do you think about Radio-frequency tightening of the forehead and eye lids or thread lift?
Instead of fillers on the forehead, what’s your opinion of PDO threads as a possible alternative?
What about using fat transplant injections since even the best fillers only last ~ 2 years? Interested in fat grafting in forehead area.
absolutely right doc ! i am a victim of such botox
Dr Chan, I recently saw someone inject Botox under the eye. Is this a safe place to inject Botox? The after results on this lady really prevented her from having wrinkling when she smiled. Thank you for you advice.
Knowledgeable and I like this guy he's unintentionally funny.
I just finished listen to a video of yours where you didn’t recommend fillers. What about fat transfer to the forehead?
i have this exact problem, my forehead muscle keeps lifting up even when i am relaxed so i have wrinkles since i was a teen. i first got botox at 26 and now i am 30.. but it won't last cause the movement is still there even when i have botox i feel my muscle pulling up. And botox wears off really quickly. I have heaviness yes but it doesn't bother me personally cause i have high eyebrows arches anyway.
Thank you for sharing your experience. It's people like you that help others work out what is going on with their faces too!
Could threads work? to lift the muscles so they don't wrinkle? for a permanent solution?
What kind of fillers do you use for filling the forehead? Ty
Can use a softer filler for those with less volume loss, or a firmer one for those who need more. Firmer ones are harder to get smoother though. It's not really about what filler you use though, the practitioner's experience and techniques are more important.
@@viccosmeticinstitute Thank you dr ! : )
brilliant video I have a high forehead I still feel unsure whats best as Ive seen people with fillers who look bloated
I recall your video of the MRI that showed filler hanging around for a very long time. Could it migrate downward toward the brows and cause future heaviness on the brow line?
Thanks Dr Chan, very good information and well explained .
Thanks so much for your feedback. We'll try to make some more videos in the same style!
I love the way You explain, in many of Your films the same style - very well explained, wish to be teached by You. 👍👏👏👏
Really enjoyed this video - and I'm not really looking to do anything just enjoyed the rationale behind your recommendations :)
Hi Doc...I had 36 botox injections..this is what you would use on a migraine patient because I have Trigeminal Neuralgia and TMJ issues. I received relief from it but now have a droopy eyelid. He used 75 units of botox could this cause insomnia because it started from day one of botox even though I take a sleeping tablet. I also had a fusion on C5-C6 about 7 months ago maybe this is adding to the facial pain. What would be the best places to inject. I could email you for the information. I live in South Africa. Many thanks
what if the eyebrows have risen like a doctor spock because of botox? Is it necessary to add botox in certain areas to lower the tip of the eyebrows?
Love your channel - very realistic and truthful big thumbs up
Thank you! Glad you liked the video and hope you enjoy the future videos to come
Very informative, thank you for this video. I now know what to ask for considering my issues with botox.
Glad it was helpful for you Liz!
Will I get charged again if I ask my doctor to fix the spok eye look! I look evil! My brows lift only on the end and now my eyes are more hooded and the skin on my eyes pulls the sides because the outer muscles on my brow still lift but not the inside of my brow! It’s awful! When I put my eyeshadow on I have way more hooded lids. I also had my neck bands done and I see no results. He did my lips and they are crooked. Ugh! He’s been doing these injections since 2003. This was my first time getting anything done.
Dr. Chan, I'm a frowner, so I don't have an issue with horizontal forehead wrinkles. Can botox be injected into the orbicularis occuli to stop the frown movement without having to inject the forehead, too?
Appreciate your candid views and thoughtfulness, Doctor. Really helps.
Likewise, can you please share your views on Ultherapy, Doctor?
Can I just ask when I did my Botox training it was stressed to draw a line central of the pupil and not to cross over into the lateral side of the line to inject Botox . So as far as a small amount of Botox injected into the brow how safe is this
Kindest regards
Patricia
I've asked several dermatology P.A.s who specialize in esthetics to use filler on my forehead, and they won't because they say it's dangerous. What are your thoughts on the risk level?
what about forehead implant? it would replace volume? Are they safe? Don't they drop? What about filler - doesn't go down?
Are you not worried about hitting the lacrimal gland if injecting just below the eyebrow?
I am coming to see you....soon.
You are knowledgeable and I trust your judgement...trust being my main concern.
Making an appointment this week..
Adelaide..
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Thanks ! What about temple filler ? Wish I could come see you , a lot of times I get the heavy brow. I have deeper set eyes, some redundant skin, and tiny forehead.
Which filler product do you use in the forehead?
We generally like Emervel Classic
Isn’t it dangerous to inject fillers in the forehead? Higher chance of vessel occlusion
Sorry for an great.i know that is a great. So,doctor would you talk about fillers in glabella ? Thank you very much
This information is super. Thank You for sharing!!
Very informative!
Too much weight or skin hanging over eye can also be result of weak forehead muscles droopy forehead...that is exactly what is causing my eyelids to droop inward. I have no forehead wrinkles but my forehead is so heavy and if I rest the forehead muscles then my eyelids will droop inward. So I really want a brow lift to lift up the forehead so that my eyelids don't hang into my eye. I also notice that weak 11 muscles cause eyelid skin to droop inward as well. So forehead plays equal role.
What about forehead exercises that are permanent, which has given me a droopy eyelid? What then?
I had another 2 lines appeared just right above each brows following the the brow shape , when i just wanted to smooth the horizontal line in the middle of the forehead. it was long time ago and happened maybe 6-7 month after. What happened ? I learnt to relax my forehead muscles through meditation practices , just being conscious about facial movement
thank you i agree overly arched brow make you look older
is it normal if the hair moves with the muscle movement or raising eyebrows so high?
As before Gavin this has helped me so much thankyou I'm becoming an avid fan thankyoujane
Thanks Jane!
Thanks very much for this!. I’ve had 1st time Botox in 3 areas, I have very hooded eyes. I now have one brow up too high and other eye very heavy I can’t see my lid and the skin is sitting in my eyelashes!. Going for check up next week and hope I can get this sorted out! 🙏😊
But dermal fillers migrate! You talked about this on your channel. What about fat transfer instead?
What do you think about doing a lateral brow lift with just dermal filler?
Would that make any much of a difference?
How do you know how many units to use in Botox injections
Fantastic video so well explained love watching your teaching Thankyou again patricia
That is very helpful and interesting, however for someone who already had Botox and the Spock brows occurred how to treat that without causing brow drop?
I look like I'm angry all time and i can't control it. Does it have a connection to the muscles?
I got dysport for the first time in my forehead 10 days ago and now I have very heavy eyebrows and even atouch of Mr Spock. It looks terrible.
Hey I was wondering how long the heaviness lasted for you?
I had Botox 8 days ago and the same thing happened, I hate it 😩
Hi ! What is you location ? 😊 please
So I’m sorry what is the answer to not having your brows lowered?
Great explanation Dr. Chan. I have a question for you....It's advisable to do submental
exercises after submental liposuction to get rid of ripples? Thank you.
I stumbled upon your videos doing a google search on baby botox. Glad i saw this! I am learning about injections, received some, had the eyelid drop and heaviness, and now experimenting with baby botox for myself. Any thoughts on baby botox? or Micro tox? So far, no heaviness, but i'm very nervous and only on day 4. Last time, day 9 was when the lid ptosis hit. I also do NOT want to drop future clients. I am asian with very hooded lids with visible eyelashes, but the lid drop did completely cover the lashes. so this scenario is sure to be something i'll be seeing or NOT seeing if done properly. LOL. Would love to hear your thoughts on baby botox or if you have a video on that. Thanks!
In Finland , we call excessive movement of the lateral frontalis, “the Angry Bird” look. Have fun with that phrase. Dr. Alison Burton, Cityklinikka.
I got botox and now i look like a character "angry bird" ugh how is this corrected?
Ah yes. We actually have a whole video on this topic. Look at the Dr Spock video on our channel.
very informative video !!! Thank you so much !!
With the injection on the brows to raise them to combat the forehead Botox is there a long term affect for the eyebrows? I really don’t want to mess with that area. I just try to do natural Botox, I only do 4 units in my forehead which helps but doesn’t take them all away. As I’m getting older I want to age gracefully with a touch of help
Thank you for this video. Very informative.
thank you Roxanne.
The start of the brow next to the nose is pointing down and it makes me look unattractive, however when i raise the brows it complements my face nicely, i dont know what to do please help i dont want to look angry
Where is this doctor located?
Also what age is old and young?
Doesn't dermal fillers migrate?
How many ml is a low dose?
I had botox 14 days ago an i now have droppy eyelids an im getting married in 3 weeks is there a way to fix this ? im stressed
I don't have a high arch but... I do want some lift.. so how can I achieve that look...
How about treat this area with collagen bio estimated like profhilo? Is that correct? Thanks so much
Very interesting and informative. Thank you so much
So, if I DO not care about the wrinkles in the forehead much , because I do NOT want my brows to droop at all , don't put any botox in the forehead ?? or only a little. I want my brows to lift more, I want the sides of my brows to lift more actually. Not like a "Spock" , but I want the sides to lift a little more .
Laura
I have deep elevens. I have been told Botox will not remove these frown lines. Any recommendations I live in Georgia USA. roseingeorgia
I got infiltring myself..thank you doctor for you wise advise.
Is it possible to create a more almond shaped eye with Botox with consideration to keeping the brows looking natural? My eyes droop downwards
Good morning
Can a client who has granuloma annulare on her body and wishes to have Botox on the crows feet what is your advise. I cannot find any information on the contraindications . Your advise much appreciated . Many thanks. Patricia .
How long does filler last in the forehead area?
can last for many years in our opinion. Please watch our video on the longevity of fillers on our channel.
Hi Dr Gavin. Do you do any sunken forehead (asian) Sculptra filler treatment ?
Which dermal fillers would be best for forehead wrinkles.
This will depend on what we are treating - wrinkles or shape. But generally speaking, a softer filler is better for the forehead as lumps are the most common complication, and softer fillers means less lumps.
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Question! I get confused as to how or why botox around the eye/brow can lead to ptosis, when the effect of placing botox in and around these muscles results in lifting of the eye. Can you explain? Thank you! Love your videos so much.
how many units would you add to the frontal once you do your glabellar
Great advice, As always
Are anti wrinkle injections the same as botox?
Brilliant info thanks
Can you get Botox under eyes
Thank you great information I have lines my forehead. I wish your in Texas