@@trevorpacelli8056 actually, i have seen people use it with acrobatics for decent damage but either way its mostly for the immunity it provides, which is actually useful for a support type like Jumpluff. The attack boost is just a small bonus.
@@jesuisunstroopwafelI love using Vivillon in anything goes probably my favorite Pokemon to use and sweep with no one expects to get swept by a butterfree counterpart
Fun Fact: Magmar and Electabuzz actually had Follow Me from Pokemon XD and Magmar saw use in like one tournament where so many people thought the move was illegal in like Gen 7. They're just getting the move back to their full learnset instead of a niche XD exclusive move
@@gabrielchee8470 I think the reason they couldn't use it in Gen 8 was because Home doesn't have the Pokemon XD exclusive moves as legal, since it's been added to their TM lists they should get to keep it now. XD had a TON of unique moves for pokemon but most of them were either kinda bad(Refresh on a lot of pokemon) outclassed (Dig on Spinarak) or inconsistent(Tri Attack on Togepi). My personal favorite is Shadow Lugia when purified gets Psycho Boost, Deoxys's signature move.
@@TheWizardMusat least they got to keep their Ribbons for those Exclusive Battle Titles, "Go, Lugia The Triumphant!" and "Go, Kyogre The 100x Victorious"
I still find it hilarious that for articuno, their whole build for being competitive borderline looks like a timmy build with just all ice moves, ice terra and choice specs that flips around to being genius especially after the hail rework and the fact it loses it's flying type weakness
Brambleghast is my favourite here just because in a sea of some of the most power crept statlines and abilities the game has ever seen 1 Pokémon you would assume destined for mediocrity bravely ventures into some of the strongest team compositions known to man simply hoping that they ran their best spread and speed control moves which just happen by cosmic confluence to all be wind based
Honestly Brambleghast has been one my best on Showdown. Give that chap Spikes, Confuse Ray (nobody expects the gamble), Leech Seed and Power Whip. Muh spikey boi has been a godsend in my Ghost mono team.
I also would like to mention Slowbro and Slowking (they're pretty much the same Pokemon, just with their defensive stats swapped). They're plenty slow enough to be great at setting up Trick Room, can heal themselves with Regenerator and Slack Off while also healing their ally with Heal Pulse. They also have enough special attack to dish out some sizeable damage themselves.
@duckymomo7935 Because Indeedee and Gardevoir are way more frail (not to mention a bit too fast to be ideal for Trick Room) and it's better to use Hatterene as a sweeper rather than the Trick Room setter.
Snow switching into Abomasnow has done surprisingly well for me. Mostly because you don't expect the Abomasnow tbf. But Slowking has a fair few uses imo.
One pokemon that's definitely underrated af is iron jugulis People think that he's just Temu's version of hydreigon because he can't nuke stuff as his OG version does, when in reality it can be really good as a supporter with tailwind, taunt, being immune to prankster, etc The only problem that he has is flutter mane's existence, but that's the bane of every Pokémon player
I got a shiny Hoppip not even an hour into Scarlet back when it first released. I held onto it for the entire game for good luck and I was surprised it held it's own since I never used one before and had always assumed Jumpluff was insanely weak
I got a shiny Jumpluff when I was doing Area Zero for the first time and I was like "too bad there's not much to actually do with this Pokemon" and then it won a regional and I was like "dang, maybe it's time to dust that bad boy off after all"
Swallot used to have a mini-niche in gen 9 OU. Back when the gen 9 OU was new there were plenty of pokemon that relied on draining moves in order to stay healthy. Anihilape and palafin used drain punch. Amoongus used giga drain and occassionally leech seed. And hatterene used drain kiss. Swallot was the only pokemon with the liquid ooze ability meaning that it had a form of passive damage against them. Right now it is completely unusable.
What a weird ruling from big Pikachu. Your entire round of a tournament disconnects, and you decide everybody has to play a completely different ruleset???
I love Jumpluff. I remember running it a few times through story, but it wasn't until playing HGSS that it really clicked how much is behind the surface on that mon.
4:00 I had a double take at this, I always thought it got the ability in generation 5, but i googled it and I sure am smoking some hefty mandela effect over here lmao
Yep, the big four of the weather wars for sand, sun, rain, and (at the time) hail were Tyranitar (Sand Stream) , Ninetales(Drought), Politoed (Drizzle), and Abomasnow (Snow Warning). Any other non-legendary users have only got it after gen 5, tho i do understand. If there were any more than just one mon for each weather, it wouldnt necessarily create variety but instead one mon would be more consistent or the favorite over the other. And you can kinda tell considering the newest weather setters Torkoal and Pelipper have a lot more uses and really outshine Ninetailes and Abomasnow, and Alolan Ninetales seems to outshine Abomasnow
11:45 Blaziken is UUBL, not Ubers. I am well aware I have become the example Moxie gave but I do not care. If I see an incorrect fact, I put on my nerd glasses.
3:10 Golducl is also fun on Gen 9 rain, with Nasty Plot and Surf making it a great partner to Ogerpon-Wellspring, who has Water Absorb (I’ve never seen this combo on ladder but I’ve used it and it’s surprisingly strong)
I think vicavolt would be a cool contender for the list too. Tera Electric thunderbolt with trick room live and the cote as the item to make it immune to fake out is pretty nuts.
My three favorite Pokémon are Torkoa,l Flutter Mane, and Jumpluff. I always thought only 2 were competitively viable but I guess ALL of them (kinda) are. lol
In regulation h, scyther is better than its evolutions as it’s the one with the best tournament results. Funny how a stab technician boosted dual wingbeat (basically a brave bird) from a 110 attack stat mon with a speed stat outpacing even garchomp and delphox can make a Pokémon who’s cursed with a bug flying type combo be better than the ones with better typings (still no top cut from any of these three tho)
Butterfree pretty much for the same reason as VIvillion. Just a bit different. Itd use rage powder and sleep powder, but instead of friend gaurd it had Gigantimax it could use but wasnt required too.
I knew Jumpluff is good, I tryed to use one on my first team at the beginning of scarlet and violet, but the set you showed is probably better then my Acrobatics set. But it was sometimes pretty good for one of my first competetive team.
i swear i once saw a wolfe vid talk about eviolite grotle being a thing someime during gen 6 but i can't find anything about it, i would love if you could talk about it
4:54 Only Obamasnow, regice and avalugg are meant to be defensive here but failed at being so Glalie is meant to be a really mid “all rounder” proven by its stats spread Mamoswine is not defensive at all, or at least is more offensive and more well known for it then its defenses And lastly walrein’s defensive typing is decent (ignoring the fact it has a stealth rock weakness ofc) (I’m talking about this from a smogon singles player’s pov and I know what he’s saying applies mainly to vgc, I don’t know the supposed vgc niches of any of these except abamosnow, I know certain things like walrein’s rock weakness isn’t as big of a deal ignoring stealth rocks since moves like rock slide are a lot less common))
I ran a vivilon with quiver dance and oricorio with quiver dance so in one turn u had two quiver dances on oricorio villion also had rage powder tailwind and friend gaurd
wasn't there like a whole month or so in gen 9 VGC where Entei was considered to be quite good? Idk if that would've been worth mentioning though, but I loved seeing it being used.
I feel like its not fair to call electabuzz not great in gen 1 when its absolutely better than Arcanine there and comparable to Dragonite, being 2 spots higher on the UU VR.
Video idea: What if Bug-Fairy "Relationship" was reversed since Gen 6? So bug-type moves does regular damage to fairy-type mons, and fairy-type moves deals resisted damage to bug-type mons PS Give bug-type pokémons full immunity to confusion, it would help them slightly
I'm pretty sure everyone knows that Articuno is now good, because literally every vgc TH-camrs and Pokemon content creators were creating their own video talking about how Articuno won a tournament
My normal go to for bad pokémon was jumpluff and your telling me it was actually good a some point al least i can still make fun of ledian that can never be useful in any way ever
I think Mind's Eye only works with like, the evasiveness stat that can be boosted with Double Team/Minimize and dropped with Sweet Scent/etc, whereas Snow Cloak passively raises it like... in the background without giving it a +1 to evasiveness. sorta similar to how Quark Drive and Protosynthesis raise a paradox pokémon's highest stat without the actual stat boost animation popping up
i am afraid of golduck in generation 9.... it can click hydro pump in rain every now and then..... 252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Water Golduck Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Incineroar in Rain: 256-304 (126.7 - 150.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
It just occurred to me that Jumpluff doesn't get Wind Rider and I think that's really sad
Not too late, switching it with leaf guard would be a huge+. Wind rider definitely is a must for this Poke.
Not like it would benefit from that, Jumpluff isn't known for being a physical attacker.
@@trevorpacelli8056 Jumpluff would like to be immune to HEat Wave, Hurricane and Icy Wind tho
@@trevorpacelli8056 actually, i have seen people use it with acrobatics for decent damage but either way its mostly for the immunity it provides, which is actually useful for a support type like Jumpluff. The attack boost is just a small bonus.
Shiftry got it at least. Well it fits it very well
"Maybe not anything else in the case of Incineroar..." - Oh no...
"...Incineroar is in Smash." - Oh thank God.
hahahaha yeah not what I thought would be said
what else is incineroar even popular for? its barely available in any games except alola and its barely in the anime and spinoffs too
@@fred8422 don't look up the fanart
@@WG_Zombeenie oh hes furry bait
In modern day, incineroar is NOT know for the furry stuff.
The fact that Pokémon #666 is colorful little butterfly who literally is there to protect its friends is great.
And 420 is a cherry.
@@yusheitslv100 😏
Vivillon also kicks butt in Anything Goes.
"The greatest trick The Devil ever pulled, was convincing the world he -didn't exist- wasn't a cute butterfly"
@@jesuisunstroopwafelI love using Vivillon in anything goes probably my favorite Pokemon to use and sweep with no one expects to get swept by a butterfree counterpart
The “tap your screen three times” really worked to skip the ad lol
W imma go back and watch the ad now
Wow so quick 😏
The fact that it was dead on was killer
Fun Fact: Magmar and Electabuzz actually had Follow Me from Pokemon XD and Magmar saw use in like one tournament where so many people thought the move was illegal in like Gen 7. They're just getting the move back to their full learnset instead of a niche XD exclusive move
Same with Endeavour Pikachu/Raichu (of Wolfe Glicke's world champ team fame)
I'm kind of curious how that even happened
....or if they'll get to keep it this time
@@gabrielchee8470 I think the reason they couldn't use it in Gen 8 was because Home doesn't have the Pokemon XD exclusive moves as legal, since it's been added to their TM lists they should get to keep it now.
XD had a TON of unique moves for pokemon but most of them were either kinda bad(Refresh on a lot of pokemon) outclassed (Dig on Spinarak) or inconsistent(Tri Attack on Togepi). My personal favorite is Shadow Lugia when purified gets Psycho Boost, Deoxys's signature move.
@@TheWizardMusat least they got to keep their Ribbons for those Exclusive Battle Titles, "Go, Lugia The Triumphant!" and "Go, Kyogre The 100x Victorious"
Double chance on tri attack is pretty cool, to be fair.@@TheWizardMus
I still find it hilarious that for articuno, their whole build for being competitive borderline looks like a timmy build with just all ice moves, ice terra and choice specs that flips around to being genius especially after the hail rework and the fact it loses it's flying type weakness
SPIDOPERATIVES, MOVE OUT!
I had no idea mightyena was that good at its niche, despite what all the comments said. Life truly finds a way in even the toughest scenarios.
I love my boo mightyena
mightyena is not real duh
Poison fang goes hard
Justice for Brambleghast. Bro got cucked by the internet
0:56 this alone is a good enough to convince me to sub
I admit that I don’t even play nor like competitive Pokémon but I actively watch and love these videos ♥︎♥︎♥︎
How did you get here then? Just curious
@@luukdehaan6420 I like random stuff about Pokémon
I did back before i committed myself to this job and grew up, now i mostly consume the content (cus the games are crud)
Yeah me too. I tried in 8th gen but didn't do it un the end. But I always watch these videos
Brambleghast is my favourite here just because in a sea of some of the most power crept statlines and abilities the game has ever seen 1 Pokémon you would assume destined for mediocrity bravely ventures into some of the strongest team compositions known to man simply hoping that they ran their best spread and speed control moves which just happen by cosmic confluence to all be wind based
Honestly Brambleghast has been one my best on Showdown. Give that chap Spikes, Confuse Ray (nobody expects the gamble), Leech Seed and Power Whip. Muh spikey boi has been a godsend in my Ghost mono team.
I also would like to mention Slowbro and Slowking (they're pretty much the same Pokemon, just with their defensive stats swapped). They're plenty slow enough to be great at setting up Trick Room, can heal themselves with Regenerator and Slack Off while also healing their ally with Heal Pulse. They also have enough special attack to dish out some sizeable damage themselves.
They don't have any good vgc tour runs as far as I can tell
@@MoxieBoosted ...yet.
Why run those when gardevoir indeeedee and hatterene exist
@duckymomo7935 Because Indeedee and Gardevoir are way more frail (not to mention a bit too fast to be ideal for Trick Room) and it's better to use Hatterene as a sweeper rather than the Trick Room setter.
Snow switching into Abomasnow has done surprisingly well for me. Mostly because you don't expect the Abomasnow tbf. But Slowking has a fair few uses imo.
One pokemon that's definitely underrated af is iron jugulis
People think that he's just Temu's version of hydreigon because he can't nuke stuff as his OG version does, when in reality it can be really good as a supporter with tailwind, taunt, being immune to prankster, etc
The only problem that he has is flutter mane's existence, but that's the bane of every Pokémon player
Quark Drive speed boost with Dragon Cheer next to Miraidon 👀
I don’t know, the one Lance has in radical red is pretty strong
@@TheB1ggestBack dark hole and aeroblast flashbacks
most importantly electabuzz is a super agency sleeper pick
I got a shiny Hoppip not even an hour into Scarlet back when it first released. I held onto it for the entire game for good luck and I was surprised it held it's own since I never used one before and had always assumed Jumpluff was insanely weak
I got a shiny Jumpluff when I was doing Area Zero for the first time and I was like "too bad there's not much to actually do with this Pokemon" and then it won a regional and I was like "dang, maybe it's time to dust that bad boy off after all"
I got one near the fairy Team Star base and that’s how I learned it learns memento as its last level up move 🥲
@@THEW0LFB0Y I somehow kept a regularly color Jumpluff throughout the whole game. She never got benched once seemingly
Infiltrator Jumpluff is one my team staples whenever I can. Not to mention the shiny pink boi is flippin adorable.
Fast status and support is funny
"Boy what da hell boi"- bloodmoon ursaluna at 5:45
Hearing this about Jumpluff makes me rather happy as someone who had fun using one in Violet with its supportive move pool.
Swallot used to have a mini-niche in gen 9 OU.
Back when the gen 9 OU was new there were plenty of pokemon that relied on draining moves in order to stay healthy.
Anihilape and palafin used drain punch.
Amoongus used giga drain and occassionally leech seed.
And hatterene used drain kiss.
Swallot was the only pokemon with the liquid ooze ability meaning that it had a form of passive damage against them.
Right now it is completely unusable.
What a weird ruling from big Pikachu. Your entire round of a tournament disconnects, and you decide everybody has to play a completely different ruleset???
I love Jumpluff. I remember running it a few times through story, but it wasn't until playing HGSS that it really clicked how much is behind the surface on that mon.
At 2:02 I think you made a mistake on what the eviolite does. It raises both defensive stats no?
both defenses, yes. also isn't a flat +50% like the diagram shows either, since the multiplier applies to the actual stat and not the base stat
9:23 "only 115 attack" current state of the metagame in a nutshell
The most perfect example dive cats
4:00 I had a double take at this, I always thought it got the ability in generation 5, but i googled it and I sure am smoking some hefty mandela effect over here lmao
Nah Gen 5 was Politoed
gen 5 gave them to Ninetales (Drought) and Politoed (Drizzle)
gen 7 gave them to Torkoal and Pelipper
Yep, the big four of the weather wars for sand, sun, rain, and (at the time) hail were Tyranitar (Sand Stream) , Ninetales(Drought), Politoed (Drizzle), and Abomasnow (Snow Warning).
Any other non-legendary users have only got it after gen 5, tho i do understand. If there were any more than just one mon for each weather, it wouldnt necessarily create variety but instead one mon would be more consistent or the favorite over the other.
And you can kinda tell considering the newest weather setters Torkoal and Pelipper have a lot more uses and really outshine Ninetailes and Abomasnow, and Alolan Ninetales seems to outshine Abomasnow
11:45 Blaziken is UUBL, not Ubers. I am well aware I have become the example Moxie gave but I do not care. If I see an incorrect fact, I put on my nerd glasses.
3:10 Golducl is also fun on Gen 9 rain, with Nasty Plot and Surf making it a great partner to Ogerpon-Wellspring, who has Water Absorb (I’ve never seen this combo on ladder but I’ve used it and it’s surprisingly strong)
I’m a big believer in Shiftry since it got wind rider
I think vicavolt would be a cool contender for the list too. Tera Electric thunderbolt with trick room live and the cote as the item to make it immune to fake out is pretty nuts.
I believe wolf tried to make Magmar function but it did not do too well.
I don't know why I've hearing the Pokémon TCG soundtrack for the Gameboy so often on random Pokemon videos lately but I'm all over it
My three favorite Pokémon are Torkoa,l Flutter Mane, and Jumpluff. I always thought only 2 were competitively viable but I guess ALL of them (kinda) are. lol
Never heard of a guy recommending what to do to skip his own sponsored ad lol
In regulation h, scyther is better than its evolutions as it’s the one with the best tournament results. Funny how a stab technician boosted dual wingbeat (basically a brave bird) from a 110 attack stat mon with a speed stat outpacing even garchomp and delphox can make a Pokémon who’s cursed with a bug flying type combo be better than the ones with better typings (still no top cut from any of these three tho)
6:15 so that what he did after leaving team rocket
Bro had a dragonite all along and still wanted pikachu 💀
Damn Moxie predicted Jumpluff's recent streak of success
Butterfree pretty much for the same reason as VIvillion. Just a bit different. Itd use rage powder and sleep powder, but instead of friend gaurd it had Gigantimax it could use but wasnt required too.
Liked and sub just because of the skip ad thing. Good job.
I knew Jumpluff is good, I tryed to use one on my first team at the beginning of scarlet and violet, but the set you showed is probably better then my Acrobatics set. But it was sometimes pretty good for one of my first competetive team.
It took until 0:01 for Incineroar to be mentioned
i think blaziken needs a physical fighting variation of stored power to make him nuts with speed boost and either bulk up or SD
I think I recall cherrim being used alongside groudon in gen 4? 🤔
Articuno's always been a one-trick pony with Blizzard spam. But man, it's a really good trick.
and its the best from doing it
3:20 seeing Landorus T not one shotting the meowstic hurts my brain lol
I'm so surprised a Pachirisu mention wasn't included
Probably in his video
that's because it's a video about mons you DIDN'T know were good
i swear i once saw a wolfe vid talk about eviolite grotle being a thing someime during gen 6 but i can't find anything about it, i would love if you could talk about it
It was a joke I’m pretty sure
I was about to leave the video because of the ad but then he said that i could skip so I had to leave a like. He is just cool like that.
Recently Yanma is making wave in the competitive scene
I actually used a Tera Ghost Jumpluff in some online battles, and it won a couple times
Eevee: uses Extreme Evoboost
Me: Haze/Clear Smog goes bbrrrrr
4:54
Only Obamasnow, regice and avalugg are meant to be defensive here but failed at being so
Glalie is meant to be a really mid “all rounder” proven by its stats spread
Mamoswine is not defensive at all, or at least is more offensive and more well known for it then its defenses
And lastly walrein’s defensive typing is decent (ignoring the fact it has a stealth rock weakness ofc)
(I’m talking about this from a smogon singles player’s pov and I know what he’s saying applies mainly to vgc, I don’t know the supposed vgc niches of any of these except abamosnow, I know certain things like walrein’s rock weakness isn’t as big of a deal ignoring stealth rocks since moves like rock slide are a lot less common))
It feels like any Pokemon can do something cool if you figure things out.
I ran a vivilon with quiver dance and oricorio with quiver dance so in one turn u had two quiver dances on oricorio villion also had rage powder tailwind and friend gaurd
"but dondozo calls it turn 2" lmaoooooo
wasn't there like a whole month or so in gen 9 VGC where Entei was considered to be quite good? Idk if that would've been worth mentioning though, but I loved seeing it being used.
The weasel only job as a bodyguard,i will not elaborate any further
An infiltrator jumpluff just outstalled the hell out me today it’s funny
Saitino is from Pittsburgh, or he at least went to college where I live in Pittsburgh
Yooo the Pokemmo gameplay at 6:55???
Iron Bundle on the Thumbnail kinda looks like Strong Bad
You absolutely deserve this like for telling me the exact number of skips needed for your ad.
It only has 115 attack if brambleghast was in gen 1 it would be traumatizing
I wonder if anyone will bring back Jumpluff this season with any success
Almighty Weedle. Wang with a spike is all powerful!
Now if only they could buff the final stage evolution pokemon to be more viable, like Meganium for example.
Video starts at 0:00
😐😐 you got the whole squad laughing 😐😐
I feel like its not fair to call electabuzz not great in gen 1 when its absolutely better than Arcanine there and comparable to Dragonite, being 2 spots higher on the UU VR.
TIL Vivillon has Friend Guard 😂
Easiest like smash of my life
The forbidden clip 6:03
Surprised singles is getting acknowledged at all.
Video idea: What if Bug-Fairy "Relationship" was reversed since Gen 6? So bug-type moves does regular damage to fairy-type mons, and fairy-type moves deals resisted damage to bug-type mons
PS Give bug-type pokémons full immunity to confusion, it would help them slightly
Justice for Emilio!
If it weren't that known Pachirisu would've been here
Awesome video 🎉❤
I'm pretty sure everyone knows that Articuno is now good, because literally every vgc TH-camrs and Pokemon content creators were creating their own video talking about how Articuno won a tournament
Good luck Skiploom is real
My normal go to for bad pokémon was jumpluff and your telling me it was actually good a some point al least i can still make fun of ledian that can never be useful in any way ever
It's such a shame. I love Ledian. But he's so... So awful.
Yall ever try prankster Torrakat ?
New moxievidsted yesss
Thank you for not digging up Pachirisu
Emilio really got screwed there. That was really unfair given the circumstances.
0:09
Oh yeah, SMASH brothers...
in gen 10 we can add ampharos to this list
Does snow cloak actually go though minds eye? Genuinely curious and I haven’t seen anything on bulbapedia about it
I think Mind's Eye only works with like, the evasiveness stat that can be boosted with Double Team/Minimize and dropped with Sweet Scent/etc, whereas Snow Cloak passively raises it like... in the background without giving it a +1 to evasiveness. sorta similar to how Quark Drive and Protosynthesis raise a paradox pokémon's highest stat without the actual stat boost animation popping up
WHAT IS THE SONG AT THE END. Its on a few of your videos. Shazam doesnt recognise it :(
Pachurisu
i'm not on mobile but i know the 3 taps will skip the ad
No Cherrim?
5:48 Sambucha???
JUMPLUFF!! 😊
Jumpluff is great in nuzlockes.
i am afraid of golduck in generation 9.... it can click hydro pump in rain every now and then.....
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Water Golduck Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Incineroar in Rain: 256-304 (126.7 - 150.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Everyone knows that 🎶.
2:00 editing error everyone point and laugh
Edit: 10:48 the first pokemon to lose a pokemon? Moxie, you dorked up the script lol
incineroar🔥
dId YoU kNoW? bLaZiKeN iS gReAt, ItS bAn In UbErS
eforbes THE GOAT
Lol PU is a thing? Yes, my comment on a different video is relevant! Is it for smell type pokemon? I bet it is
Beat many play through with jumpluff