It is important to see the whole video. The last two minutes frame it all a bit better. The only problem I see is how much apologism there is for straight up censorship. Pulling down “controversial” episodes from him is a very slippery slope. Some day, what you deem normal, may be seen as controversial, and you will be censored. Free speech should be equal for everyone, instead of silencing, we should teach people to think critically, and give them their right and freedom to freely choose and think. Don’t turn into Korea, with a “cleansed” state approved internet.
Free speech is good when you talk about things that don’t harm other people. But there is no excuse for using racial slurs. I mean like why? Not his opinion, not a useful fact, just no reason behind it. It does more harm than good. The vaccine example is a good one for free speech. You should be able to say anything as that is a potential information. But he should’ve had disclaimer of his qualifications so that people have the full information. This is not a private conversation between you and me. 11 Million people listen to each episode on average and with that comes a responsibility to share the whole truth and not just what he thinks or is fun to say. Rebellion feels good sometimes but there are times where it’s morally wrong people’s lives depend on it. Compassion is a far greater virtue.
@@amyjames9282 Talking about Richard Pryors Groundbreaking comedy album "That n****** crazy" is hardly what you would call a slur. Thats its name. Context matters. Joe never used the n word against anyone. Also times changed, society seems to have decided we don't even say that word at all now. Thats great. But you can't change the past. Joe hasn't said it in years. I grew up in the 80's and 90's. It was normal to say f****t..no big deal at the time. Thankfully we weren't all being recorded at the time. Should we all be punished for existing in a different time. I don't care about what someone said yesterday..its better to focus on what they say today and tomorrow. As for vaccine misinformation...hell half the shit he said seems to be true. He was simply questioning the narrative, which is a sign of a healthy society. Try doing that in China and see how that goes.
Caya, I don't think your analysis of the issue is quite nuanced enough. A few points that I think you need to consider here: 1. What is 'misinformation'? We know for a fact that what is misinformation one day may become a fact on another. This is one of the basic tenets of the endeavor of scientific inquiry. We cannot for a claim to know for certain what is misinformation. We must always be humble in our search for truth. Certainty leads to falsehood. 2. Who decides what is misinformation? Is it the government? The scientific community? Are we so sure that these sources are always right? I would hate to live in a world where we let some entity or another decide what is true and what isn't, and censor the latter. That is a dangerous, dangerous world to live in. 3. Is the cost of censorship worth it? We cannot afford to censor people who espouse non-mainstream opinions because the risk that they might be right is too great. Have a great weekend.
What I have a problem with is with everyone invoking "science", "science" doesn't "dispel", it simply presents other observations and proposes an inference. When talking to scientists they rarely ever take a binary position. I'm not in favour of accepting ONE truth, dissenting voices have to heard that's how you get a balanced conversation and that's why I LOVE Joe Rogan. He has everyone who will come on his podcast and has a LONG, intellectually curious conversation with them. Does he have biases? Sure, and he communicates them but I'm honestly tired of left leaning people throwing out the "misinformation" tag on any dissenting voice.
JOE WAS WRONG with a lot of things in the past. But he himself admitted that everytime. He is one of the last few people in public discourse who tries to be honest at all times and actually listens to and tries to understand people with opposing views. Those qualities are getting increasingly rare in our current debate-culture eventhough they are VITALLY IMPORTANT for a society to survive longterm.
Well said sir. I don't have to agree with your point of view to respect your right to voice it. The world has become too easily offended and intolerant. The cure is more freedom of speech for everyone. Especially those I don't agree with!
But he literally said that miss information should be curtailed, miss information is speech, it's a tight rope he tries to walk there, portion of this videos could be labeled miss information as well.
I don't get how you agreed that Spotify wasn't doing enough yet immediately went to can't keep cancelling people. Those 2 ideas are practically derived from the same principle
I appreciate your perspective but you left out so many facts that favour Joe’s position that I wonder if you even researched the other sides perspective before making this video… For example the “100’s of doctors” that signed a petition against Joe it’s now well known there were very few doctors on that list. I find it so weird (like “what planet am I on” weird) when people who seem level headed speak poorly about Joe on this topic 🤷🏻♂️
Historically, ending slavery and allowing gay marriage was seen as controversial. If society never allows the debate and discussion of controversial ideas what kind of a world would we live in? It's incredibly important to allow the public debate and discussion of controversial issues so that society can improve and move forward. In order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
Exactly! I find it extraordinarily shocking that the minority groups that have benefited the most from the historical push for free speech in the US are the same ones that want to put an end to free speech.
Good on you for stating your opinion without fear of loss. Yes, diplomacy is important but it shouldn't lead to losing our own identities. You earned a subscriber.
How are you gonna track and criminalize if someone dies because of misinformation? So career of someone is bigger than life of others? Idiots have to keep their mouth shut or if needed with force.
I think no human can be expected to not make mistakes in their life. I mean, for every 1 thousand things you say, one of them is going to be wrong, controversial or an insult to someone. And when someone like him is talking all the time, a mistake now and there is bound to happen. So, it's okay when the dude says something that raises controversies, especially if he's cool enough to own up to his mistake and say that he's sorry. We're all humans, we all make mistakes, it would be impossible for someone that has the volume of content he does to not have offended a single soul in the world. If he apologises and moves forward, I'm okay with that, even though I'm a scientist and hate fake news
Dude, stay out of this. We don't come here for politics. Make more of these and watch the channel go into oblivion. Not a threat, just know more people want to categorise their interests and get turned off by morphing channels.
Well.... First of all I am all pro vacination since I got 3 jabs (we have taken dozens of jabs since birth) BUT I also believe you should decide on it AS LONG as you understand there might be consequences during a global pandemic. I don't listen to the JRE podcast (but have seen a few clips on TH-cam), and although some things are at least "morally dubious" I despise cancel culture full stop. Don't like it don't watch it but "erasing" people just because you don't agree is dumb, I mean, 11 Millon listeners? are you kidding me? So a few thouthands don't like and now everyone has should not be able t listen? Even if he had only 5 listeners it would be the same. Ofcourse I am also against false information spreading but where to draw the line? Not everything is black and white. And finally just regarding the last thing, words are not offensive, the way you use them mght be (for example cow is an animal and so not offensive but if I call you a cow...), so without context this compilations (and I am not defending JR since I do not know him) are biased.. If you're gonna BAN a word than what about all the music? for example half of Hip HOP?! Or is just for some? And don't even start with some can say others can't, that is literally the definition of racism that you are trying to use to Cancel someone. Regardless of all this nice video once again
Ahh maan. I'm black, female. I quite like JR. He seems quite chill. I hate cancel culture. Umm... the whole N word thing... I dunno, it doesn't affect my life. If people don't like it, don't watch it. If enough don't watch it, Spotify will pull it. It's just not a big deal. There are WAAAAYYYYYY bigger things going on in this planet that really do affect people's lives negatively, yet no one pays a blind bit of notice. Modern culture just seems to prefer jumping from one noisy bandwagon to the next. No substance to anything. I'm interested in REAL change, things that will cause an about-turn in the trajectory people's lives for GENERATIONS. I just can't get excited by the foolish 'he said, she said'. It's like a distraction from the REAL problems our societies have. I think govt and media are delighted when we're distracted in this way because we then don't jump on them looking for REAL solutions. 🙄
IMHO you should not follow medical advice from a podcaster (or a youtuber). Understanding the difference between entertainment ("half" fiction) and news/information is the responsibility of every citizen.
Caya, I admire that you are brave enough to talk about sensitive topics. I also strongly believe in facts. But please remember that today not truth rules the world but money. And if you have enough of them you decide what the “truth” is
Please define misinformation for me, Caya? You used that word quite a lot throughout the video and I wanna know what you see misinformation as. Not an example, but a definition of what it is.
He's funny (comedian), known (news radio, fear factor), mma/ufc knowledge (domaint male audiences).These are unique combo. People love authenticity, get entertained and receive new information, knowledge. He's also a good listener and speak articulate esp with scientists, doctors, and alike. He invites all kinds of people to the show. Left or right. He regularly said he's not a doctor, a moron jokekinly. Never make people feel he knows everything. I didn't know him until he got Elon smoking. For me, that's the point I started listening to him.
Yes but simply saying, “I’m an idiot,” but then attempting to speak On a topic with authority, He is the interview has the responsibility of steering the conversation in the right direction and that direction should be towards the truth or at least the most factual information available. I don’t think Rogan has any malicious intent in what he says and I truly believe he is a great guy, however, With his massive audience, He has the ability to quickly disseminate false or misleading information. I will still occasionally watch Joe Rogan when he has a topic Of which I’m interested in for a guest that is a leader in their field but when he tells into the more conspiratorial.. I think that can be quite dangerous. His podcast aside though, I still think he is a brilliant comedian and will definitely be watching any specials he puts out, As he’s never disappointed me in that arena address far.
That’s kind of cult-like of you. I started watching when it was just him and his buddies not giving AF what people think. That’s what drew me in, authenticity. Funny how people kind of reveal their level of authenticity (or lack thereof) with hero worship.
Rogan quoted other’s use of the “N” word. Rogan didn’t “use” the “N” word as a slur. You are slanting your description of Rogan’s speech. Saying the “N” word as a quote of someone else is not as negative as using the “N” word as a slur. I don’t listen to Rogan but I don’t want him slandered by your mischaracterization.
Joe wanted to say the "N" word and wanted to show people he isn't afraid of saying it. He could have easily said "N" word instead of saying Nigga/Nigger. And bwfore you say "well black people say it to each other" women call each other bitch jokingly but that joke doesn't elicit the same response when a man calls a woman a bitch.
Dear SlideBean Team/Caya I have been a long time supporter and a fan and I love the content y’all create. And today I am here to tell you that I AM NOT GONNA UNSUBSCRIBE even though I wholeheartedly disagree with the some of the things you said in this video. I want to first start by saying that I don’t think you left out any information on purpose or y’all were being purposely biased but here are something’s I believe need to be addressed. The first one would be, Dr. Malone is not just a random Dr. He is one of the founders of the MRNA vaccines and he wasn’t really regarded as a politically right wing person up until recently . As a matter of fact, he himself has stated multiple times on twitter (before he got banned) that he supported the Biden campaign and even went as far as donating financially. The other point I want to address is this, even though I agree with supporting the science, we have to acknowledge that we can not rely on studies that are still in trial. Many like me support science and don’t have issues with taking medication that have been around for a while because an extensive long term study has been recorded on said medications and their possible side effects. But in a time where pharmaceutical companies are driven by profits more than helping people, it is dangerous to say “the science is settled” when many of the experimental studies are happening right now. And as a firm believer in Capitalism, if we want to keep checks and balances on these private institutions, we must not take everything they say blindly. These are the same companies that paid doctors to promote smoking, and the same government institutions that used bodies of black people as experiments, just a couple of decades ago. But most importantly, if you don’t read anything, I want you to read this part. You said if anyone has a problem with you being jabbed 3 times then they should unsubscribe. Which makes me think that you haven’t actually met the majority of people who the media calls “anti-vaxxers”. First of all yes, there are a super small group of people that let a person’s vaccine status dictate their lifestyle. But over 95% of people who the media calls “anti-vaxxers” are simply people who do not believe that the government or any other individual should be forcing people to take an experimental drug in order to participate in society. Caya, I don’t care if you take 3 jabs or smoke 50 pounds of weed in one night. Our problem is when people start supporting the idea that unless we do what they want us to do, we shouldn’t participate in the society. I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU BELIEVE THIS. I am just trying to explain my side. Lastly, more than anything, I think many tech companies are suffering from lack of diversity of opinion. There is a big world outside of the small tech bubble that exists in California, New York and Austin, Texas. It just doesn’t seem like it because the closed communities from these places are smart and super powerful people and have been able to control the flow of information for some time. But there are millions in the other 48 or so states with differing opinion and if these tech companies don’t start factoring in the forgotten Americans, they are gonna pay a heavy price for it in the future. I believe that you are an open minded person Caya and I know you are super busy but I truly do believe stepping out of the bubble and exploring the other side would be super beneficial to you, your team, and your company as a whole. I know I wrote a lot but I might as well take this chance to say what I have wanted to say for some time. I appreciate Caya and the whole slide bean marketing team from the bottom of my heart. I see a lot of myself in y’all and y’all’s story. I too am an immigrant tech enthusiast working to break into the industry. As you can tell, a lot of my believes are not gonna be easily accepted by many of the people in this space but I truly believe this is bigger than just one person or just my vision. Therefore, I would like to thank you for everything y’all have created so far. Thank you for being an inspiration for many like me. I truly mean this and I am glad to see y’all’s success.
I think there should be right of free speech( In facebook, spotify, twitter). If, someone want to censor something, it should be done by court order. We have to accept that different people have different believe . We shouldn't dehumanize anyone. Anyway, I am a supporter of vaccine
Yes, there should be freedom of speech, but a company shouldn't endorse/create content that spews out what can potentially be misinformation about a life and death situation. Spotify doesn't distribute Joe Rogan's podcast (like regular podcasts), it produces it. Legally, Spotify Studios is the creator of and holds the rights to Joe Rogan's podcast. This issue is not about whether or not you support the vaccines, it is about whether or not a multi-million dollar MNC should directly endorse/spread misinformation that can cost people's lives just for their profit.
I like the fact that this video basically did not give the right "information" to any of the "misinformation" it was accusing the man of. You're good with company forensics but not really with political forensics. Perhaps you should watch the podcasts about the vaccines and make another video correcting the misinformation from the experts that went on. Goodluck with your career
You’re a good man and I appreciate your content and I agree with misinformation but who decides what’s true and false a lot of the content that is misinformation becomes true. I think in a situation that is active misinformation can’t be distinctly defined. Especially with how a lot of the public school systems and media lie all the time. Idk I’d love to hear your rebuttal.
I think there is way less radical lefties here than it is right leaning people. SO yeah, when you make a weak take of sorts - you get called out, but dont think there will be bunch of lefties threatening with pitchforks because you said that cancel culture is not the best x)
"Scientists have already dispelled these claims"... That is true some scientists have dispelled them, but will not debate him, and I'm sure he's not right about everything, as is everybody who has ever been born. What is true and what is false is very unclear... This video keeps the narrative of uncertainty alive
Jo rogan always says I'm just an idiot don't listen to me. If you are going to get health advices from a random guy on the internet you deserve whatever happens to you
Does TH-cam have a feature where you can mute videos from appearing with a certain name in them? If they don't, I highly suggest they get to work on it.
Man the same people who want to pull Joe Rogan on the same people who want to pull Dave Chappelle and it's no coincidence that they are best friends and that's a pretty strong black friend to have let me just say, but if you don't listen to anything but snippets you're just not going to understand what's going on, Joe Eggs on his audience just like Dave eggs on his... And honestly I forgave Joe's misgivings about the coronavirus when I saw Dr Gupta go on his show and say CNN shouldn't have represented the medicine they gave him as horse dewormer when it won then Nobel prize as a human medicine, and then immediately go on to CNN and see the exact opposite so I think Joe was really just trying to stick up for his right to have an opinion that should be represented accurately and not just with whatever message the mainstream media wanted to give it... In other words, it seemed to me he put that information out there to see the reaction and prove the point about that and not because he was trying to be a doctor and tell other people what they should do.. he found a way to poke a hole in the system and it was very obvious the system was screwy
Now who is misinforming? Check again the list and you will see most of them have the right to an educated opinion about a pandemic and its effects! And for sure way more than a podcaster!
“Forensics” means tests used in detecting a crime. It used to sort of make sense as an analogy when you looked at failed companies. Now, you’re just using “forensics” to describe analyzing how existing companies operate and it doesn’t make sense at all.
Deplatforming becasue you dont like something or it offends you, is NO different from the SS and ghestappo practices from Nazi germany If it hurts you ears and emotions, DO NOT TUNE IN. Focus your energy into more productive things.
So you are against the cancel culture but you want ppl who express their opinions to apologize for it so they will not loose it all !!! That's called hypocrisy... we are in a world full of shit and full of good, the real task for good ppl is to emphasise and support the good side of our human nature not to silence the other side. If the culture of silencing each voice that we don't like (even if it is racist or shit voice ) will continue and become a norm then one day we'll be silenced for the slightest out of the crowd opinion, and who creats this crowd opinion!!! Mass media and ppl in power. Be honest with yourself and don't apologize just say it if you are convinced with what i said.
Seems like you kinda kit-picked a lot of information. The whole CNN thing where they insisted a drug was a horse de-wormer was kinda huge. Also what's the point of bringing up the rock? He's got clips of him saying racist things too and seems silly to act like he's the golden standard. Video felt biased.
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Politicians telling you the science is sound as if science doesnt get things wrong every now as if science hasnt been used negatively. To each there own but the world will always be split in 2 as long as we dont put humanity first and am not talking about once in awhile am talking about all the time!
Personally I think your standpoint is correct, although in my humble opinion on the whole fiasco, whenever you’re not knowledgeable on a topic, and so many people hang by every word you say and you have such power to influence the masses, you should be extremely careful with every word that comes out of your mouth, instead of having to make bullshit “apology” videos to mask your mistakes.
Lol! I don't even know who the Joe guy is. But in my opinion, just let them speak 😂🤣 It is not like they are so powerful that all of they say would change the world. Bunch of people talk, yet it is just an opinion and won't change anything haha.
Caya you should first define misinformation. Am from Africa where there is no free speech but you don't seem to value it as much. Misinformation is a term to bring about an 1984
Stating your opinion and backing it up by saying that science agrees with you was weak. Enjoy the one time viewership that comes with covering Joe Rogan though ✌🏻
It is important to see the whole video. The last two minutes frame it all a bit better.
The only problem I see is how much apologism there is for straight up censorship. Pulling down “controversial” episodes from him is a very slippery slope. Some day, what you deem normal, may be seen as controversial, and you will be censored.
Free speech should be equal for everyone, instead of silencing, we should teach people to think critically, and give them their right and freedom to freely choose and think. Don’t turn into Korea, with a “cleansed” state approved internet.
Free speech is good when you talk about things that don’t harm other people. But there is no excuse for using racial slurs. I mean like why? Not his opinion, not a useful fact, just no reason behind it. It does more harm than good.
The vaccine example is a good one for free speech. You should be able to say anything as that is a potential information. But he should’ve had disclaimer of his qualifications so that people have the full information. This is not a private conversation between you and me. 11 Million people listen to each episode on average and with that comes a responsibility to share the whole truth and not just what he thinks or is fun to say. Rebellion feels good sometimes but there are times where it’s morally wrong people’s lives depend on it. Compassion is a far greater virtue.
@@amyjames9282 Talking about Richard Pryors Groundbreaking comedy album "That n****** crazy" is hardly what you would call a slur. Thats its name. Context matters. Joe never used the n word against anyone. Also times changed, society seems to have decided we don't even say that word at all now. Thats great. But you can't change the past. Joe hasn't said it in years. I grew up in the 80's and 90's. It was normal to say f****t..no big deal at the time. Thankfully we weren't all being recorded at the time. Should we all be punished for existing in a different time. I don't care about what someone said yesterday..its better to focus on what they say today and tomorrow. As for vaccine misinformation...hell half the shit he said seems to be true. He was simply questioning the narrative, which is a sign of a healthy society. Try doing that in China and see how that goes.
Typical response. Slippery slope arguments are a logical fallacy
Caya, I don't think your analysis of the issue is quite nuanced enough.
A few points that I think you need to consider here:
1. What is 'misinformation'?
We know for a fact that what is misinformation one day may become a fact on another. This is one of the basic tenets of the endeavor of scientific inquiry.
We cannot for a claim to know for certain what is misinformation. We must always be humble in our search for truth. Certainty leads to falsehood.
2. Who decides what is misinformation?
Is it the government? The scientific community? Are we so sure that these sources are always right?
I would hate to live in a world where we let some entity or another decide what is true and what isn't, and censor the latter. That is a dangerous, dangerous world to live in.
3. Is the cost of censorship worth it?
We cannot afford to censor people who espouse non-mainstream opinions because the risk that they might be right is too great.
Have a great weekend.
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Well said.
What I have a problem with is with everyone invoking "science", "science" doesn't "dispel", it simply presents other observations and proposes an inference. When talking to scientists they rarely ever take a binary position. I'm not in favour of accepting ONE truth, dissenting voices have to heard that's how you get a balanced conversation and that's why I LOVE Joe Rogan. He has everyone who will come on his podcast and has a LONG, intellectually curious conversation with them. Does he have biases? Sure, and he communicates them but I'm honestly tired of left leaning people throwing out the "misinformation" tag on any dissenting voice.
JOE WAS WRONG with a lot of things in the past. But he himself admitted that everytime. He is one of the last few people in public discourse who tries to be honest at all times and actually listens to and tries to understand people with opposing views. Those qualities are getting increasingly rare in our current debate-culture eventhough they are VITALLY IMPORTANT for a society to survive longterm.
An opinion is an opinion. Not a fact
As far as the 270 "medical professionals", you should do a deeper dive into that
This was well done Caya. Thank you for putting this together. It gave me a good perspective and background.
Well said sir. I don't have to agree with your point of view to respect your right to voice it. The world has become too easily offended and intolerant. The cure is more freedom of speech for everyone. Especially those I don't agree with!
But he literally said that miss information should be curtailed, miss information is speech, it's a tight rope he tries to walk there, portion of this videos could be labeled miss information as well.
Did I misunderstand or was the usage of the N word mostly when paraphrasing other people using it?
One of the times was simply talking about richard pryors album 'That n****** crazy' and how it had an impact on him.
I don't get how you agreed that Spotify wasn't doing enough yet immediately went to can't keep cancelling people. Those 2 ideas are practically derived from the same principle
You are right. Free speech is an absolute right. It exists or it doesn’t.
man kinda biased but love the work
I appreciate your perspective but you left out so many facts that favour Joe’s position that I wonder if you even researched the other sides perspective before making this video… For example the “100’s of doctors” that signed a petition against Joe it’s now well known there were very few doctors on that list.
I find it so weird (like “what planet am I on” weird) when people who seem level headed speak poorly about Joe on this topic 🤷🏻♂️
I heard “100s of professionals” although I know that wasn’t the headline that initially was put out there.
Historically, ending slavery and allowing gay marriage was seen as controversial. If society never allows the debate and discussion of controversial ideas what kind of a world would we live in?
It's incredibly important to allow the public debate and discussion of controversial issues so that society can improve and move forward.
In order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
Exactly! I find it extraordinarily shocking that the minority groups that have benefited the most from the historical push for free speech in the US are the same ones that want to put an end to free speech.
Good on you for stating your opinion without fear of loss. Yes, diplomacy is important but it shouldn't lead to losing our own identities. You earned a subscriber.
Wow I discovered this channel and liked it a lot. Then I discovered that you're from CR and now that you are Cayasso's son? Amazing
Stop deleting my comments. Why? Now you can't handle criticism?
How are you gonna track and criminalize if someone dies because of misinformation? So career of someone is bigger than life of others?
Idiots have to keep their mouth shut or if needed with force.
@dev stuff Can't help with your Dunnig Kruger effect.
I think no human can be expected to not make mistakes in their life. I mean, for every 1 thousand things you say, one of them is going to be wrong, controversial or an insult to someone. And when someone like him is talking all the time, a mistake now and there is bound to happen. So, it's okay when the dude says something that raises controversies, especially if he's cool enough to own up to his mistake and say that he's sorry.
We're all humans, we all make mistakes, it would be impossible for someone that has the volume of content he does to not have offended a single soul in the world. If he apologises and moves forward, I'm okay with that, even though I'm a scientist and hate fake news
Dude, stay out of this. We don't come here for politics. Make more of these and watch the channel go into oblivion. Not a threat, just know more people want to categorise their interests and get turned off by morphing channels.
Ok my comments are gettikg deleted. Dude you are on the wrong side of history. You took that decision.
Well....
First of all I am all pro vacination since I got 3 jabs (we have taken dozens of jabs since birth) BUT I also believe you should decide on it AS LONG as you understand there might be consequences during a global pandemic.
I don't listen to the JRE podcast (but have seen a few clips on TH-cam), and although some things are at least "morally dubious" I despise cancel culture full stop. Don't like it don't watch it but "erasing" people just because you don't agree is dumb, I mean, 11 Millon listeners? are you kidding me? So a few thouthands don't like and now everyone has should not be able t listen?
Even if he had only 5 listeners it would be the same.
Ofcourse I am also against false information spreading but where to draw the line? Not everything is black and white.
And finally just regarding the last thing, words are not offensive, the way you use them mght be (for example cow is an animal and so not offensive but if I call you a cow...), so without context this compilations (and I am not defending JR since I do not know him) are biased..
If you're gonna BAN a word than what about all the music? for example half of Hip HOP?! Or is just for some?
And don't even start with some can say others can't, that is literally the definition of racism that you are trying to use to Cancel someone.
Regardless of all this nice video once again
Ahh maan. I'm black, female. I quite like JR. He seems quite chill. I hate cancel culture. Umm... the whole N word thing... I dunno, it doesn't affect my life. If people don't like it, don't watch it. If enough don't watch it, Spotify will pull it. It's just not a big deal. There are WAAAAYYYYYY bigger things going on in this planet that really do affect people's lives negatively, yet no one pays a blind bit of notice. Modern culture just seems to prefer jumping from one noisy bandwagon to the next. No substance to anything.
I'm interested in REAL change, things that will cause an about-turn in the trajectory people's lives for GENERATIONS. I just can't get excited by the foolish 'he said, she said'. It's like a distraction from the REAL problems our societies have. I think govt and media are delighted when we're distracted in this way because we then don't jump on them looking for REAL solutions. 🙄
IMHO you should not follow medical advice from a podcaster (or a youtuber). Understanding the difference between entertainment ("half" fiction) and news/information is the responsibility of every citizen.
Caya, I admire that you are brave enough to talk about sensitive topics. I also strongly believe in facts. But please remember that today not truth rules the world but money. And if you have enough of them you decide what the “truth” is
What's the point in blocking someone out from your platform when people will follow him anywhere?
Please define misinformation for me, Caya? You used that word quite a lot throughout the video and I wanna know what you see misinformation as. Not an example, but a definition of what it is.
Really enjoy the nuance of your stance. Also watch all your videos, some of the best start-up content on TH-cam! Keep it up!
He's funny (comedian), known (news radio, fear factor), mma/ufc knowledge (domaint male audiences).These are unique combo. People love authenticity, get entertained and receive new information, knowledge. He's also a good listener and speak articulate esp with scientists, doctors, and alike. He invites all kinds of people to the show. Left or right. He regularly said he's not a doctor, a moron jokekinly. Never make people feel he knows everything. I didn't know him until he got Elon smoking. For me, that's the point I started listening to him.
Yes but simply saying, “I’m an idiot,” but then attempting to speak On a topic with authority, He is the interview has the responsibility of steering the conversation in the right direction and that direction should be towards the truth or at least the most factual information available. I don’t think Rogan has any malicious intent in what he says and I truly believe he is a great guy, however, With his massive audience, He has the ability to quickly disseminate false or misleading information. I will still occasionally watch Joe Rogan when he has a topic Of which I’m interested in for a guest that is a leader in their field but when he tells into the more conspiratorial.. I think that can be quite dangerous. His podcast aside though, I still think he is a brilliant comedian and will definitely be watching any specials he puts out, As he’s never disappointed me in that arena address far.
That’s kind of cult-like of you.
I started watching when it was just him and his buddies not giving AF what people think. That’s what drew me in, authenticity.
Funny how people kind of reveal their level of authenticity (or lack thereof) with hero worship.
you are honestly such a nice person I don't know how could anybody say differently, regardless of your opinion. Thanks man.
You should do a company forensics on the UFC!
Perfectly put
Rogan quoted other’s use of the “N” word. Rogan didn’t “use” the “N” word as a slur. You are slanting your description of Rogan’s speech. Saying the “N” word as a quote of someone else is not as negative as using the “N” word as a slur. I don’t listen to Rogan but I don’t want him slandered by your mischaracterization.
Joe wanted to say the "N" word and wanted to show people he isn't afraid of saying it. He could have easily said "N" word instead of saying Nigga/Nigger. And bwfore you say "well black people say it to each other" women call each other bitch jokingly but that joke doesn't elicit the same response when a man calls a woman a bitch.
Dear SlideBean Team/Caya
I have been a long time supporter and a fan and I love the content y’all create. And today I am here to tell you that I AM NOT GONNA UNSUBSCRIBE even though I wholeheartedly disagree with the some of the things you said in this video.
I want to first start by saying that I don’t think you left out any information on purpose or y’all were being purposely biased but here are something’s I believe need to be addressed.
The first one would be, Dr. Malone is not just a random Dr. He is one of the founders of the MRNA vaccines and he wasn’t really regarded as a politically right wing person up until recently . As a matter of fact, he himself has stated multiple times on twitter (before he got banned) that he supported the Biden campaign and even went as far as donating financially.
The other point I want to address is this, even though I agree with supporting the science, we have to acknowledge that we can not rely on studies that are still in trial. Many like me support science and don’t have issues with taking medication that have been around for a while because an extensive long term study has been recorded on said medications and their possible side effects. But in a time where pharmaceutical companies are driven by profits more than helping people, it is dangerous to say “the science is settled” when many of the experimental studies are happening right now. And as a firm believer in Capitalism, if we want to keep checks and balances on these private institutions, we must not take everything they say blindly. These are the same companies that paid doctors to promote smoking, and the same government institutions that used bodies of black people as experiments, just a couple of decades ago.
But most importantly, if you don’t read anything, I want you to read this part.
You said if anyone has a problem with you being jabbed 3 times then they should unsubscribe. Which makes me think that you haven’t actually met the majority of people who the media calls “anti-vaxxers”. First of all yes, there are a super small group of people that let a person’s vaccine status dictate their lifestyle. But over 95% of people who the media calls “anti-vaxxers” are simply people who do not believe that the government or any other individual should be forcing people to take an experimental drug in order to participate in society. Caya, I don’t care if you take 3 jabs or smoke 50 pounds of weed in one night. Our problem is when people start supporting the idea that unless we do what they want us to do, we shouldn’t participate in the society. I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU BELIEVE THIS. I am just trying to explain my side.
Lastly, more than anything, I think many tech companies are suffering from lack of diversity of opinion. There is a big world outside of the small tech bubble that exists in California, New York and Austin, Texas. It just doesn’t seem like it because the closed communities from these places are smart and super powerful people and have been able to control the flow of information for some time. But there are millions in the other 48 or so states with differing opinion and if these tech companies don’t start factoring in the forgotten Americans, they are gonna pay a heavy price for it in the future. I believe that you are an open minded person Caya and I know you are super busy but I truly do believe stepping out of the bubble and exploring the other side would be super beneficial to you, your team, and your company as a whole.
I know I wrote a lot but I might as well take this chance to say what I have wanted to say for some time.
I appreciate Caya and the whole slide bean marketing team from the bottom of my heart. I see a lot of myself in y’all and y’all’s story. I too am an immigrant tech enthusiast working to break into the industry. As you can tell, a lot of my believes are not gonna be easily accepted by many of the people in this space but I truly believe this is bigger than just one person or just my vision. Therefore, I would like to thank you for everything y’all have created so far. Thank you for being an inspiration for many like me. I truly mean this and I am glad to see y’all’s success.
I think there should be right of free speech( In facebook, spotify, twitter). If, someone want to censor something, it should be done by court order. We have to accept that different people have different believe . We shouldn't dehumanize anyone. Anyway, I am a supporter of vaccine
Yes, there should be freedom of speech, but a company shouldn't endorse/create content that spews out what can potentially be misinformation about a life and death situation. Spotify doesn't distribute Joe Rogan's podcast (like regular podcasts), it produces it. Legally, Spotify Studios is the creator of and holds the rights to Joe Rogan's podcast. This issue is not about whether or not you support the vaccines, it is about whether or not a multi-million dollar MNC should directly endorse/spread misinformation that can cost people's lives just for their profit.
Idiots shouldn't have either freedom of speech or eligibility to vote.
Hey ! You're keeping my subscription and I still love your content although I respectfully disagree with with you. Much love from France
Im with you
Amazing video and thank you for sharing your opinion.
Caya , why’d you make his eyes like that in the thumbnail? “Click-Baity” much?
I like the fact that this video basically did not give the right "information" to any of the "misinformation" it was accusing the man of.
You're good with company forensics but not really with political forensics.
Perhaps you should watch the podcasts about the vaccines and make another video correcting the misinformation from the experts that went on.
Goodluck with your career
You’re a good man and I appreciate your content and I agree with misinformation but who decides what’s true and false a lot of the content that is misinformation becomes true. I think in a situation that is active misinformation can’t be distinctly defined. Especially with how a lot of the public school systems and media lie all the time. Idk I’d love to hear your rebuttal.
Saying one word by itself should NOT count as a controversy! intentions behind that word MATTER!
I think there is way less radical lefties here than it is right leaning people. SO yeah, when you make a weak take of sorts - you get called out, but dont think there will be bunch of lefties threatening with pitchforks because you said that cancel culture is not the best x)
Also, those 270 people....a majority were not any form of medical doctor. You had people with unrelated doctorates.
What is misinformation today turns into a fact tomorrow, ask Galileo.
Im black and i don't give a fuck what Joe Rogan says. I care about way more important shit that's actually hurting black people.
Thank you, Caya, for another great video
9:48 triple japped!!.. oh my god. If a medicine does not work you stop to use it not take more of it. It is not candy.
"Scientists have already dispelled these claims"... That is true some scientists have dispelled them, but will not debate him, and I'm sure he's not right about everything, as is everybody who has ever been born. What is true and what is false is very unclear... This video keeps the narrative of uncertainty alive
The jackass example was spot on
Jo rogan always says I'm just an idiot don't listen to me.
If you are going to get health advices from a random guy on the internet you deserve whatever happens to you
I appreciate your courage to express your opinion
Would Eddie Bravo be classified as fighter, entertainer/comedian, and "thinker"?
Oooooooooo this was a risky episode 😅 I am a fan of yours Caya, pls do share the stats on views and subscribers and dislike on this video.
Does TH-cam have a feature where you can mute videos from appearing with a certain name in them? If they don't, I highly suggest they get to work on it.
Man the same people who want to pull Joe Rogan on the same people who want to pull Dave Chappelle and it's no coincidence that they are best friends and that's a pretty strong black friend to have let me just say, but if you don't listen to anything but snippets you're just not going to understand what's going on, Joe Eggs on his audience just like Dave eggs on his... And honestly I forgave Joe's misgivings about the coronavirus when I saw Dr Gupta go on his show and say CNN shouldn't have represented the medicine they gave him as horse dewormer when it won then Nobel prize as a human medicine, and then immediately go on to CNN and see the exact opposite so I think Joe was really just trying to stick up for his right to have an opinion that should be represented accurately and not just with whatever message the mainstream media wanted to give it... In other words, it seemed to me he put that information out there to see the reaction and prove the point about that and not because he was trying to be a doctor and tell other people what they should do.. he found a way to poke a hole in the system and it was very obvious the system was screwy
Brilliant take
Definately UFC in the next episode of the Company Forensics!
Neil Young supports Rogan now. He's back on Spotify.
Appeal to authority is the antithesis of science.
I love your content
fun part is that no one cares what do YOU think yet you can talk about it. isn’t it awesome? enjoy while it lasts
270 medical professionals? Read the letter, PhDs - yes, but there were almost none of the practicing doctors, well, one dentist.
Now who is misinforming? Check again the list and you will see most of them have the right to an educated opinion about a pandemic and its effects! And for sure way more than a podcaster!
Wtf I thought you were Indian this whole time
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“Forensics” means tests used in detecting a crime.
It used to sort of make sense as an analogy when you looked at failed companies.
Now, you’re just using “forensics” to describe analyzing how existing companies operate and it doesn’t make sense at all.
lol wonder how he feels about his triple jab today
Deplatforming becasue you dont like something or it offends you, is NO different from the SS and ghestappo practices from Nazi germany
If it hurts you ears and emotions, DO NOT TUNE IN. Focus your energy into more productive things.
You have a fantasy attitude. Very balanced … but at the end it seemed to be a bit over the top with all the justification
Such a passionate monologue. Well spoken.
don't delete comments tho
Well spoken 👏👏👏
Balanced take. These are rare
I agree. Let Rogan live.
So you are against the cancel culture but you want ppl who express their opinions to apologize for it so they will not loose it all !!! That's called hypocrisy... we are in a world full of shit and full of good, the real task for good ppl is to emphasise and support the good side of our human nature not to silence the other side.
If the culture of silencing each voice that we don't like (even if it is racist or shit voice ) will continue and become a norm then one day we'll be silenced for the slightest out of the crowd opinion, and who creats this crowd opinion!!! Mass media and ppl in power. Be honest with yourself and don't apologize just say it if you are convinced with what i said.
Great Video as always.
Person forensics ..!!
well said
Seems like you kinda kit-picked a lot of information. The whole CNN thing where they insisted a drug was a horse de-wormer was kinda huge. Also what's the point of bringing up the rock? He's got clips of him saying racist things too and seems silly to act like he's the golden standard. Video felt biased.
Awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Also! Since you were one of the first comments you get invited to Caya's group office hours. For more information reach out to our Community Manager, Páraic, and he will pass on the details. His email is paraic@slidebean.com
Great video!
Is Joe bigger than Joe Mamma ?
Great information
Glad you enjoyed!
Also! Since you were one of the first comments you get invited to Caya's group office hours. For more information reach out to our Community Manager, Páraic, and he will pass on the details. His email is paraic@slidebean.com
im from iran and u my friend didn't understand first amendment of the country that host u
its shame
Leave the content up and leave the flags that have been applied. Stop cancelling people!
Who (attempts to) cancels will lie (almost certainly)
Office hours ?
Sure thing ;) Reach out to our Community Manager, Páraic, and he will pass on the details. His email is paraic@slidebean.com
Cancel the cancel culture
5:51 😳😬 cringy much
Politicians telling you the science is sound as if science doesnt get things wrong every now as if science hasnt been used negatively. To each there own but the world will always be split in 2 as long as we dont put humanity first and am not talking about once in awhile am talking about all the time!
Roe Jogan
Proud of you for this video! Well said in the end.
I disagree with your view on vaccines and will unsubscribe your channel.
Personally I think your standpoint is correct, although in my humble opinion on the whole fiasco, whenever you’re not knowledgeable on a topic, and so many people hang by every word you say and you have such power to influence the masses, you should be extremely careful with every word that comes out of your mouth, instead of having to make bullshit “apology” videos to mask your mistakes.
Free speech is an absolute right. Every single attempt to limit it, is the door to completely erasing it.
This cancel culture pandemic needs to stop, everyone gets offended by things that have nothing to do with them. Move on.
Lol! I don't even know who the Joe guy is. But in my opinion, just let them speak 😂🤣 It is not like they are so powerful that all of they say would change the world. Bunch of people talk, yet it is just an opinion and won't change anything haha.
There’s no invading joe
There should be a auto label that pops up when misinformation is used
Use to think u made great videos, until it got political........sorry dude I am out
I can't read
I kind of wish I could see the dislike again
Caya you should first define misinformation. Am from Africa where there is no free speech but you don't seem to value it as much. Misinformation is a term to bring about an 1984
Stating your opinion and backing it up by saying that science agrees with you was weak. Enjoy the one time viewership that comes with covering Joe Rogan though ✌🏻