If they hit it really deep it’s always possible to look for the ATP. Although, if you are going wide and you are in a stretch position, the more advanced players will anticipate down the line to execute an Erne.
Thanks for the tips...I've been using this a lot this week. Although at 2:18, you're saying "DOWN THE LINE", but really hitting about 45% to the middle line. I get that you're not going to the "crosscourt" opponent....but "down the line" should really be "down the line".
In my opinion at lower levels of play the block reset shot is the most under used shot. As soon as the ball speeds up it does not slow down till the point is over.
The block reset shot is certainly underused at lower levels. More advanced play has points that speed up and slow down with players using patience on when to go after a ball.
I’ve played at hop before. I own lots of buildings. I’d like to build one in my home city up in manassas va. Wonder if I could talk to someone about the process. I’d do it just for the community to have a place to escape the heat and cold.
Be real careful doing this against advanced players....they'll erne you if they see it coming and it's near the side. Dumping back to the middle is fine.
Thanks so much for this video! I’ve been trying to figure out how to fix this in my game! What a simple solution. Next time I get pulled wide, I’ll gently put it over into their NV zone👏and reset my feet.
I agree w this. However, tbh the last thing I think about or really care about when playing is whether all the players are getting a chance to play. That's fine, but not important when wanting to win :)
my thought exactly, the LOB is no question one of the most underrated shots, just like in Tennis.. but you have to be good at it, and as far as the cross court short game here ? it happens a lot, I usually wait for, ( as I'm sure they do as well ? ) is a mistake that you can take advantage of.. as far as the LOB goes ? its more highly effective if they charge the kitchen obviously thinking they have you in a defensive position, send them back and you can control the kitchen... I like your play here, as I usually do that because the other player isn't expecting it !!!
No! Not against a pair of right handers. The backhand lob has to be perfect in order to get over the opposing left player who just played the crosscourt dink forcing the dump. The shoulder lift is a dead giveaway for him/her to shift right and back to be in position to slam the lob attempt.
Thanks for your response, Mitchell. At 2:07 I addressed the need to dump it closer to the middle against advanced players. However, a majority of players don't have the Ernie shot in their repertoire.
@@detaildon I only worry about an Ernie attempt when a dink is hit deep behind me down the line and I let it get behind me. If I keep the ball in front of me, I can see it coming. It's fun to dump it just out of reach during an Ernie attempt. The partner has to cover and the court opens up.
Hi Ryan. I hear you. However, keep in mind that over 90% of pickleball players don't have the Erne shot in their arsenal. Also, sometimes we get pulled wide simply because our opponent hit a great shot.
@@PickleballInstruction More like 99%... I play with and against strong 3.5s and 4s...I almost never see an Erne attempt. i keep thinking about it...but at 59 with bad knees, I don't always get there...
I commend the effort, but this is literally the worst possible tactic to use when forced out wide on a cross court dink. This tactic does have some value when considering lower levels of play or addressing limited mobility players but unfortunately the video mentions neither as a motivation.
I respectfully disagree. I not only teach the "dump" shot, but I use it countless times in tournament play at the 5.0 level. In fact, much of my competition at the 5.0 level in tournaments will do the same. To put it in perspective, this is a shot we use when the opponent's dink is wide with pace and the "Around the Post" shot isn't quite there.
@@PickleballInstructionI agree. A short dump shot just over the net is a nice change-up after several cross-court dinks. Variety is critical in general. Always good to involve your partner and potentially catch the other player sleeping as well. There is no way they're going to Erne the dump shot after watching a few cross-court dinks. That's a high-risk move to assume the line dump dink (or be ready for it), which would effectively leave the middle back-hand dink open to the middle you mentioned. So many scenarios across the board. I appreciate this viable option just to keep the other team guessing, plus the idea of re-setting the point, as mentioned. Thank you,
I beg to differ! I have played nearly every sport, several competitively, and pickleball has become my favorite. The strategy, reflexes, and fitness level needed to compete at a high level are all appealing. It also doesn't hurt that you meet a ton of great people playing!
germanslice, because they're in close and a topspin shot won't stay in anyway, unless you hit them of course :( I think they crank heavy topspin from the baseline, like western grip Rafael Nadal topspin.
@@ktrock77 Well what works in tennis with the forehand to hit with fast-dipping topspin in tight parts of the court should also work in this sport. So I cant see why you can't hit any fat dipping spin in any area of the court unless you're using a finish that doesn't allow you to do that to the ball.
germanslice, from your NVL to the other baseline is 29 feet. That's how much room you have to get a shot up and down. So I'm not sure how much space even a heavy topspin shot will save you here. Usually when the rally goes hard, someone gets overpowered, often by a ball that's otherwise sailing out.
In tennis 29 feet of court space is no problem for me to send the ball into because I can generate tight spins on the ball in the court in only just 5-10 feet of court space in tennis because I use a different finish on the ball to make the ball behave like this to do with how much magnum force I generate on the ball. . That allows me to hit with pace and spin to any place I want on the court. So 29 feet of court space won't be a problem for me to hit into but for those who hit the ball with an open racquet face they will find it difficult to keep the ball always in the court. Hence why I'm seeing alot of this light tapping around of the ball to try to get it back up over the net and no ripping of the ball. In tennis, we put these balls away.
Maybe I'm misreading your posts, are you questioning the dinks in this video? If so, then maybe we need to have a different conversation 😅 Do you play Pickleball?
This was a way better lesson than I was expecting. Well done.
During vacation in Wrightsville I played several times at HOP. Richard is a great guy and the facility is perfect.
Glad you enjoyed your stay!
really appreciate your showing the plays also in slow motion. Helps a lot!
If they hit it really deep it’s always possible to look for the ATP. Although, if you are going wide and you are in a stretch position, the more advanced players will anticipate down the line to execute an Erne.
VERY FEW players are getting an Erne off your ATP...the physics aren't good. And the shot probably won't be...
Thanks Jesse, look forward to seeing so much more from you! Michele
Thanks for the tips...I've been using this a lot this week. Although at 2:18, you're saying "DOWN THE LINE", but really hitting about 45% to the middle line. I get that you're not going to the "crosscourt" opponent....but "down the line" should really be "down the line".
Well taught. 👍
Wonderful Jesse. Your Educational Background come through strong and very positively. Well Done.
Thanks, Greg!
In my opinion at lower levels of play the block reset shot is the most under used shot. As soon as the ball speeds up it does not slow down till the point is over.
The block reset shot is certainly underused at lower levels. More advanced play has points that speed up and slow down with players using patience on when to go after a ball.
I’ve played at hop before. I own lots of buildings. I’d like to build one in my home city up in manassas va. Wonder if I could talk to someone about the process. I’d do it just for the community to have a place to escape the heat and cold.
We love the HOP! There's a lot that goes into it, but it provides a great benefit for the community.
Check out Richard's expression during the intro!!
Totally appreciated this tip. Thank you.
Be real careful doing this against advanced players....they'll erne you if they see it coming and it's near the side. Dumping back to the middle is fine.
Thanks so much for this video! I’ve been trying to figure out how to fix this in my game! What a simple solution. Next time I get pulled wide, I’ll gently put it over into their NV zone👏and reset my feet.
Very well explained. Thank you 👍🏽. You have a new subscriber now 🤗
I agree w this. However, tbh the last thing I think about or really care about when playing is whether all the players are getting a chance to play. That's fine, but not important when wanting to win :)
Jeremy Smith Jeremy I’m guessing you never really won much back when the rest of us thought it mattered 😂
It’s pickleball, Asswipe. You’re not curing cancer.
Tournament play is different that recreational play. Many players don't understand the difference. Sad.
Ernie has entered the chat
That's a good one, too!
Like in tennis, in pickleball it seems that the 4th player either gets or receives a putaway.
You know you’re bored when you’re watching pickleball lessons
No, the correct shot when pulled wide is lofted to center to give u time to get back in the game. Many pros advise this.
for lower level players, a dump shot might be effective .. but higher level players could just erne the ball away if you dump it a bit high 😢😮
Another shot from that situation is a lob
Yes. If you aren't able to come to a stop to hit the ball, a lob is a great choice as it allows you time to get back in position on the court.
my thought exactly, the LOB is no question one of the most underrated shots, just like in Tennis.. but you have to be good at it, and as far as the cross court short game here ? it happens a lot, I usually wait for, ( as I'm sure they do as well ? ) is a mistake that you can take advantage of.. as far as the LOB goes ? its more highly effective if they charge the kitchen obviously thinking they have you in a defensive position, send them back and you can control the kitchen... I like your play here, as I usually do that because the other player isn't expecting it !!!
No! Not against a pair of right handers. The backhand lob has to be perfect in order to get over the opposing left player who just played the crosscourt dink forcing the dump. The shoulder lift is a dead giveaway for him/her to shift right and back to be in position to slam the lob attempt.
I've found that works great against geriatric five footers.
Lob that against me or the host of the video and the ball becomes lunch.
Your lunch.
If you dump it down the line to forehand I would Ernie and smash it at you. Respect the dink and reset it closer to the middle
Thanks for your response, Mitchell. At 2:07 I addressed the need to dump it closer to the middle against advanced players. However, a majority of players don't have the Ernie shot in their repertoire.
A dump to the forehand would be a backhand erne.
@@detaildon I only worry about an Ernie attempt when a dink is hit deep behind me down the line and I let it get behind me. If I keep the ball in front of me, I can see it coming. It's fun to dump it just out of reach during an Ernie attempt. The partner has to cover and the court opens up.
Don't do this "dump shot" against Tyler Loong 😀
I would still try it at his backhand toward the middle of the court. 😁
@@PickleballInstruction Tyler Loong is left handed and hitting to the middle is his forehand. He also may have the best flying ernie shot in the game.
You got pulled wide because the footwork was bad. And your dump shot set up a nice Erne.
Hi Ryan. I hear you. However, keep in mind that over 90% of pickleball players don't have the Erne shot in their arsenal. Also, sometimes we get pulled wide simply because our opponent hit a great shot.
@@PickleballInstruction More like 99%... I play with and against strong 3.5s and 4s...I almost never see an Erne attempt. i keep thinking about it...but at 59 with bad knees, I don't always get there...
I commend the effort, but this is literally the worst possible tactic to use when forced out wide on a cross court dink. This tactic does have some value when considering lower levels of play or addressing limited mobility players but unfortunately the video mentions neither as a motivation.
I respectfully disagree. I not only teach the "dump" shot, but I use it countless times in tournament play at the 5.0 level. In fact, much of my competition at the 5.0 level in tournaments will do the same. To put it in perspective, this is a shot we use when the opponent's dink is wide with pace and the "Around the Post" shot isn't quite there.
@@PickleballInstructionI agree. A short dump shot just over the net is a nice change-up after several cross-court dinks. Variety is critical in general. Always good to involve your partner and potentially catch the other player sleeping as well. There is no way they're going to Erne the dump shot after watching a few cross-court dinks. That's a high-risk move to assume the line dump dink (or be ready for it), which would effectively leave the middle back-hand dink open to the middle you mentioned. So many scenarios across the board. I appreciate this viable option just to keep the other team guessing, plus the idea of re-setting the point, as mentioned. Thank you,
Great tip! Here's a better one though to avoid losing the point, play an actual sport 🤣
I beg to differ! I have played nearly every sport, several competitively, and pickleball has become my favorite. The strategy, reflexes, and fitness level needed to compete at a high level are all appealing. It also doesn't hurt that you meet a ton of great people playing!
Complete nonsense
Why is there no heavy topspin in this game.
germanslice, because they're in close and a topspin shot won't stay in anyway, unless you hit them of course :( I think they crank heavy topspin from the baseline, like western grip Rafael Nadal topspin.
@@ktrock77 Well what works in tennis with the forehand to hit with fast-dipping topspin in tight parts of the court should also work in this sport. So I cant see why you can't hit any fat dipping spin in any area of the court unless you're using a finish that doesn't allow you to do that to the ball.
germanslice, from your NVL to the other baseline is 29 feet. That's how much room you have to get a shot up and down. So I'm not sure how much space even a heavy topspin shot will save you here. Usually when the rally goes hard, someone gets overpowered, often by a ball that's otherwise sailing out.
In tennis 29 feet of court space is no problem for me to send the ball into because I can generate tight spins on the ball in the court in only just 5-10 feet of court space in tennis because I use a different finish on the ball to make the ball behave like this to do with how much magnum force I generate on the ball. . That allows me to hit with pace and spin to any place I want on the court. So 29 feet of court space won't be a problem for me to hit into but for those who hit the ball with an open racquet face they will find it difficult to keep the ball always in the court. Hence why I'm seeing alot of this light tapping around of the ball to try to get it back up over the net and no ripping of the ball. In tennis, we put these balls away.
Maybe I'm misreading your posts, are you questioning the dinks in this video? If so, then maybe we need to have a different conversation 😅 Do you play Pickleball?