Herman the Detroit Diesel powered Oliver 1950 hooks up!
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- Our local steam show has a fun pull throughout the day where you can hook up and try your hand at the sled as many times as you like. There's no fee, no prizes and no competition, just fun. I took Herman the Oliver 1950 down for the day and hooked up several times. There's also a couple other Detroit Diesel powered Olivers from the area that showed to try their hand at it as well. Enjoy!
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All of the torque of the world: "I spin in one direction, and ain't nobody gonna stop me!"
Oliver 2-stroke Detroit: "Hold my beer."
One of the coolest tractors ever in my opinion. Music to my ears.
Great video, love those old Oliver’s, thank you for not covering up the sound with anything stupid, it was beautiful music.
I used to work for Detroit Diesel in the late 80’s and early90’s Diesel still runs in my veins love seeing this guy go
Love the old 99's, super 99’s and 990’s!!! That 4020 looked really good too! Excellent video! Always remember, “Friends don’t let friends drive red tractors!“ 😉🤠
Lol
Hey , I got green and red , JD's and MF's , lol.
Sorry, i like olivers too, but you aint taking my hot rod 1155 Massey away! All my friends beg to drive it!
I love the sound of the GM diesels!!! Thanks again for your videos Chris.
Oliver equipment was really well built. That tractor was just getting warmed up to do some work.
I spent a fair amount of time on a Cockshutt 1900, which had a GM Canada two-stroke in it. Always loved that exhaust note.
“WHAT?”
I SAID I ALWAYS LOVED THAT EXHAUST NOTE!!🤣😂
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My favorite is Hermon love the sound of the old school Detroit diesel I'm looking a skidder with a Detroit diesel in it can to hear it every day
I have an uncle that had one of those tractors. I believe that it was a Tenneco Company that bought some of these tractors and named them Parsons DP 100 Cable Plow that thing was a real horse. It had an offset plow that we used a 42" depth blade plowed a rip of 3" wide 42" deep. It had a hydrolic shaker that would shake the ground 100' away.
Thanks for the video!
I had bought a cable plow 1950 about a year before I got this one. It was a Parsons. They got the tractor from Oliver and then mounted all their equipment on it and sold it as a complete unit. I sold that one to help pay for this one. Thanks for watching!
Wow that is the best sounding tractor I have ever seen well done sir awesome video and I love that shot of the allis keep them coming
Screaming Jimmy's is the name i know them by and you could hear them if they are within a mile or more depending on the wind.
Glad to see Herman had a good pull.
When growing up the tractor pulled a over grown stoneboat that people would step on every ten feet one person on each side of the track. You had to weigh 150 pounds to be one of the lucky ones goods times for all my how things have changed.
I'm pretty sure I have some old home movies of that kind of pulling setup. I'll have to go through them and see if my memory is correct.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris i know old school stuff but, i remember it like yesterday OK maybe not yesterday lol.
Drove a Detroit powered 1950 when I was a kid on the family farm. Always had that unmistakable roar! We also had two perkins powered 1850’s
With those tires and that flotation, you could put that Oliver in the navy!
love that tractor and that sound, that dirt devil was running scared :)
Great Video, I love that Tractor. It looks & sounds Mean.
Love them old Jimmy's easy to work on an easy to make cheap power
It’s like a big sled motor, I just got an 8v92 silver cheap
Bruce Miller man I almost bought a fire truck just to get an 8V92 TA with 36k on it. I bet it would have been a great motor for something
Bruce Miller what did you end up doing with it
WOW, as usual HERMAN STEALS THE SHOW AGAIN! I never though that a tractor with a four cylinder Diesel engine would pull like that! GOOOO HERMAN!
It's not a 4 cylinder it's a Detroit V8 diesel
Nvm I'm an idiot lol
That looks like a lot of fun! Wish we had something like that. I'd put my tractor in it 😁
what a wonderful tractor. Thanks for sharing. I should really try and track one of these down. Love Detroits, have a bunch already, easy to work on and Olivers in general are just damn good machines and are surprisingly affordable compared to other nonsense.
If you're a Detroit man you should check out this video of a punk kid blowing up an 8v71 Detroit because it was "obsolete" and useless and he's a "professional" he actually says that. You'll be shocked at the comments. People seem to think they aren't road legal anymore due to emissions and are unsuitable for any kind of use. Just ignorance galore. It was a good engine too, ran great and you could tell how long it screamed before blowing. Took like an hour or more before it went. It was in an old GMC truck. I hope the guy shows up at a truck or tractor show someday and we'll see just how successful his video was
Just found your channel pretty sweet seeing some Oliver’s....and pretty cool that you’re from Michigan...I don’t think you are to far from me
I really need to get myself a detroit to mess around with in the garage. Cool video!
Nice video those Oliver tractors seems to be powerful tractors good strong engines.
Nice old tractor Chris Nice sound you can hear from a mile away 😁
This event is valid and getting back to the roots of pulling. Thanks
Almost. We would do tractor pulls in the 1950s and early 60s. Ours would be on a concrete slab with a sled. This was at the Shiawassee County Free Fair in Michigan. They would load the sled with 100lb bags of fertilizer. We would turn the tractor tires around for better traction. That was a hassle. My grandfather wasn't too keen on all that. Especially taking a day off to jack with a couple of tractors. Those tires were heavy too. My dad won the event one year with a John Deere A. We had put a little bigger block in that 2 banger. The draw bar had certain height requirements. It was a lot of work, but fun. Too me the fun part was the tractor caravanning with the neighbors to the fair. Eaglegards...
Though you were gonna take that sled home with ya for a minute, there!
Them old Detroits I could listen to them all day what sound.
We had a loader with a Detroit, it was fun for 15 mins then ya went and found your ear muffs haha
We Love Herman.
What an amazing sound!
I'm in love it Thank you for the videos
FULL PULL!!!
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We farmed about 1400 acres in central Michigan near Lennon. My grandfather bought a new 1950 Oliver 4 wheel drive assist with the Detroit Diesel in 1965. I'll never forget the discussion between my dad and grandfather whether the Detroit Diesel was better or the Cummings Diesel. We pulled a 8/16 bottom Oliver plow. I'd be out in the field tagging along with the John Deere G and the 5/16 plow. We'd turn over some ground. We grew about 600 acres of corn. On the 1950 Oliver, we hooked up 2 20' harrows side by side with 2 20' drags. That Oliver could run the ground. I was drafted into the Army in 1967, sent to Vietnam by LBJ, and blown up. I have a hell of a story. Our next door neighbor, Alex Zsigo, was killed in Vietnam in June of 1967. The government did an eminent domain on about 20 acres of our family farm too. Thanks for the video. Eaglegards...
What dealer did you get your Oliver from? Pekins?
Love the sound of a good old Detroit
When I lived off the farm, we were right next to a private park, dirt race track, gun club and tractor pulls..
(Small logging and farm town)
Loved it!!! Until the city folks all moved in, literally quadrupled the population in just a few years...
Sadly, the only tractor pull is once a year now during the parks annual fundraiser, the gun club is gone... The race track is still going, but probably not much longer 😪
All the area farms always brought tractors in all summer long, now most have lost interest because it's only a once a year deal now...
Next closest I know of is 100 miles away.
It never ceases to amaze me how people move to a new area and expect the locals to change to their standards. We have a drag strip that my dad raced at in the 60s that had closed years ago. A few people got together and opened it back up a few years ago, and they've been fighting in court ever since. Fortunately, our steam show has been growing every year, perhaps because it's free. No admission, no hook fees... Our parts man once told me, if someone is making money or being successful and a neighbor isn't , that neighbor will eventually cause them trouble. Maybe our show has found the loophole: don't make money!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris it's always been sad that people move out of the city, only to ruin the country they chose to move to... I've never understood it.. the last few years has really changed where we are.. I really just want out!!
I've felt that way at times. It seems like ever since the housing market crashed all our good neighbors moved away and losers took their place.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris they just keep moving here.. a cheap new house in town on a postage stamp is outrageous!! They start at over $400K!!!
A 60 year old house just down the road from us on one unusable acre sold for $750K two years ago... They could easily get $850k+++ for it now... CRAZY!!!
Love that sound
I wish we had a community pull like you do there. Here in ks the antique tractor club makes you join the club because of liability issues and then charge $8 to hook.
I wonder how many old farmers are deaf now from running those Detroits.................
Huh you say something. Lol. And truck drivers
Yep, deaf in my left ear from looking at the implements all day.
You need to be careful with old Herman you lock the front wheels in and you got enough power and traction to knock the earth off it's axis. Ask your buddy with the 4020 if he ever gets tired of shaking the steering wheel of the old one gear wonder in that cold weather you guys get. Thanks Chris another great video.
Many people see the sound of a Detroit as annoying, to me they're soothing muffler or no! Neat tractor! Sounds great!
Detroit Diesels - run 'em like you hate 'em!
Video was real good right up until the end there lol! The JD didn't break anything? Looks like fun! That pull I helped at was supposed to have a run-what-you-brung class, but I had to leave before that and I think it was pretty wet and didn't get many to hook. Thanks for the video! Looks like Herman did real well!
It was fun, but the big tires add a challenge to it. I was getting power hop as the track dried out and got packed down. I could have let some air out, but if I do too much, the outer bead of the split rim can slip, and then the air leaks out. I learned this the first time I plowed with him. Thanks for watching!
That is another Oliver I want to go with mine
Sounds good for detroit and it growing on me more and more so this IH guy will be lookin for a detroit power oliver lol
thanks for memories, the 1900 and 1950 cockshots we had where the same except for swinging side doors from the fender to the dash
This 1950 originally had the same doors, but they were gone when I bought it. I'd like to find a set to get it back to original.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris what year is your tractor, I know a guy.
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Definitely gonna subscribe to your channel
Good Herman!!
Very nice and a Thumbs Up Liked.
Thank you!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris
You are welcome.
Free pull day at the Thompkins Freedom Festival 2019, Thompkins Center, Michigan.
Thanks Chris, that was fun! The Jimmy's had a sound like no other! Where was this pull at?
Tompkins Freedom Festival
He should be transferred to the right shade of green olivers were the best tractors and still are the best just like International harvesters
Nothing runs like a Detroit
I'd li e to have a Oliver but id love to have that 4020 as well
a detroit symphony! not a missing note!
That John Deere guy was like Fuk I got the wrong green.
God i'd love to have a 1950 oliver. Nothing like that detroit diesel. That and I could really use a slightly bigger tractor.
Listen to that ROAR!
Looks like Dallas Roberts would’ve fit in good there!
He would have left us in the dust!
Music to my ears😎😎😎😎🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Green and white tractors are more fun to drive than green and yellow ones!
I'm looking to buy another oliver to replace my 550D oliver ,I would like to find a detroit powered one?
nice tractor
Thanks 👍
Very nice. I have a ? As I am listening sounds like Herman only has a 2 speed. Am I wrong or are you only using two. I was thinking all 1950s were made with a 3 speed. Thanks Chris for your videos.
Herman has the 2 speed. I don't know why, but they never put a 3 speed behind the GM engine from the factory.
And a good time was had by all! Is Herman what they called an El Toro ?
CE Smith.... No, El Toro was the name of another Oliver 1950 Series tractor (built in 1966), that had special Industrial rear axles (instead of the Row Crop axles) and also had a different front axle ratio than most 4x4 Oliver's (to compete with the Crawler tractors of the era), and was (of course) also powered with a 4-53NA Detroit Diesel. I don't know if "El Toro" is still sled pulling, or not.
It's a common misconception that the El Toro tractor was a 1950 with Terra Tires. In reality is was an Oliver with front wheel assist that went "south of the border", which included Mexico, Latin America and even places like New Zealand and Australia. I have a copy of an ad from Australia that shows an 1850 FWA and calls it the El Toro. I have also found an image of a Cockshutt 1650 FWA with an El Toro decal located in New Zealand. Neither of these tractors had the flotation tires, and neither have the Detroit Diesel engine. It's still a cool name, so I don't get wound up about it when someone says it is an El Toro.
There still a bull south of the border or not!
I agree, that's why I don't argue with anybody calling it and El Toro.
Showed the sled hows boss on that pull!
i know this video is near a yaer old but could not stop myself from puting this out there would like to see ale herman with correct tires on him and lock out the 4wd out and see how he would do in class pulling with his peers so to say
Those are the correct tires, they were a factory option.
What do you think of 4-210s? And is there a difference between earlier ones and red stripes?
They should be a good tractor overall. They use the 2-155 transaxle and the better articulation joint. There were changes, the most important one I can think of is the size of bolts that connect the transmission input to the back of the over/under unit were increased to 1/2". The earlier ones were smaller and could get loose and/or shear off. The 3208 engine seems to depend on how it was taken care of, and how hard it was worked. It's usually not to hard to find another one out of a combine or something else to repower with. I've seen a couple repowered with a C series Cummins. That takes a little work to fit the longer C in there, and the tractor is geared for an engine running 2600 rpm, so you lose some speed if you keep the C at 2200.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris did White change much with the 4-225?
Cool, what gear did you pull in? Are those fender tanks on the wheatland bigger than the row crop ? Mine have only 1 headlight and 1 filler cap
I pulled in 4th gear,. There was only one size of fender tank, but there were a few different light buckets. A 1650 had a single headlight, 1750 and larger had 2, the 55 series only used 1 light on all models, and there were even ones that were blank with no spots for lights. Those were used on cab tractors, as the lights would glare on the windows, so they mounted them on the front of the cab. My tanks have only 1 filler per tank, the other cap is actually a dipstick to see how full they are. This is the first set I have ever seen, they were usually only found on gas tractors, as those had a switching valve. On the gas tractors you would run on the fenders until they got low, then you would switch the valve down by your right foot to switch to the main tank.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thanks for the info.You have a wealth of Oliver knowledge. I have a 1950 Detroit short wheelbase adjustable wide front. Bought it 30yrs ago when I was 20 because it was cool. 1850 same front end,354 perkins. To give my ears some rest.
Anyone got any info if you put a slow moving emblem on a lawn tractor in Texas does it make it legal to be on the streets
I don't know about Texas, but I don't think it would fly in Michigan.
5:00 wow you caught a little tornado on camera 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It was no match for Herman! It was also probably a sign of the downpour of rain that came a couple hours later.
Lol
Nice video without anything but pure Detroit noise.
was that in Oakley
No, it was at the Tompkins Freedom Festival
Great video hope you made it home before you got a free shower
Made it home nice and dry, hardly rained at our place.
Hey Chris hows everything going? Haven't seen or heard much from you lately, any new videos coming down the line?
Hey Aaron! When your name popped up I thought I hadn't heard from you in awhile. I was going to upload a service video a few days ago, and then this video took off, and I didn't want to rock the boat. TH-cam can be interesting, if I don't upload a new video, it seems like the old ones get recommended more. I've got a bunch of footage of the 4-225 pulling a 10 bottom Oliver plow, but that's taking a bit to get edited together. I've also been rearranging the Olivers so I can make a decent video of the collection. I should have filmed that, a couple hadn't run in years.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris haha! That's ok I have been busy with things to. Sometimes TH-cam is funny, I don't always get the notifications or updates on new videos. I do try and check every few days. I just didnt want to miss something... Thanks
Isn't amazing how "Performance John Deere" could never catch up with those Olivers. Plus every one of those Olivers could be taken to the field and work 12 hours a day. Most other tractors of their era are relegated to powering grain augers or other non-hardworking jobs.
Hello ! nice old iron. Wich type of Detroit on this tractor ? and for wich sort of crops do you use those tyres . Thanks for all .
The engine is a 4-53 2 stroke diesel. I use the tractor to spread fertilizer, a little tillage, and pulling wagons.
Ok. In France we had 4.53 on Timberjack 240 I've never forgot the first time I heard it. Your old iron seems to be in good shape , good job, I hope you enjoy to work with even it's less comfortable (but less expensive) than modern equipements. Thanks for the answer and your videos.
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What model was the orange colored Oliver?
It is a Cockshutt 1750 Wheatland, same as an Oliver 1750 with different paint and decals.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris mostly sold in Canada?
Correct
Mint
Looks to me like a little less air in rear tires would work better judging by your foot print but, what the Hell do Iknow ? I never pulled anything except my child's tooth.
How much do you think that old girl weighs? I'm guessing in the 12k range.
I haven't weighed it, but the previous owner told me a little over 12k. Excellent guess.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Every once in a while the guess-o-meter gets close. Never know though, still run across the odd guy running fluid in the tires. Guess they are just waiting for the self drain feature.
Hi Chris does the White 2-155 have only a 1000 PTO or can you put a 540 in it.
They were factory equipped with 1000 only, but can be converted. My 2-155 has been converted to dual speed.
Is this real hard to do and is it easy to go back and forth between the two shafts. Also is it very expensive for a kit to do this.
Youll have to pull the pto unit, which is straight forward, drain the oil and take the bolts out type of thing. Finding a kit might be tough, your best bet is to find a complete dual speed out of a 2-135, 100, 120, 140, 125 or 145, they'll all bolt right in. Switching speeds is easy, take out the 4 bolts that hold the pto shield, pull the 540 shaft out and put the 1000 in, or vice versa, and bolt the shield back on and you're ready to go. If you buy a pto unit, verify it's a 2 speed by pulling the pto shaft. If there's only 1 set of splines, or the shaft refuses to come out, it's a single speed.
Thanks for the info. A lot of tractor manufacturers back then just though that those higher horse tractors would have no need for the 540 shafts. Today most of the high end tractors have them.
I occasionally spread fertilizer with my 2-155, but we wanted to have a backup tractor to run the feed grinder back when we had hogs. The unit is geared so you get 540 at about 1750 engine rpm, so it's also nice to not have to go full throttle just to spread fertilizer.
What's the rpm of the engine at full throttle?It sounds like you're twisting the guts out of it.
No load is around 2400 rpm. It's a 2 stroke, so it sounds twice as fast as it really is.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris if the tractor is pulling a plow,does it run like the all day?Thanks fir the idle rpm but I was really curious about the working rpm.I knew it was a two stroke but I had no idea they turned so many rpm.Gezzzzzz
2400 is what it turns wide open without a load, it's supposed to be 2600, but the governor needs adjusted. Idle speed is around 800 rpm. They are screamers, and do best at those speeds. I have a couple of videos of it plowing on my channel at the same rpm as in this video. Hearing protection is a must.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris thanks
no way…she’s not even trying
Where's the Steam Show at?
Tompkins, Michigan
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thank you like find the dates for it
It's the third weekend in September each year. Great show... free admission, free pulling, car show, it's been growing really fast.
I have a 1900 series Oliver forsale
Bragging rights is what you win
Did you get a letter from me?
I did. You must not have seen my community post from earlier this week. Go to my channel main page and click community.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Ok thanks
Check out 1066 power and new hope farm they did like a music video for internatonal tractors my other favorite brand do a music video like thing for olivers my favorite brand Please Chris thank you sir I love Herman
Screaming Jimmy power!
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I have a hard time getting used to the sound of a 2-stroke diesel.
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Oliver's rule john Deere's drool John Deere's are overrated