Who is Herman? Is this Oliver 1950 for real?
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It's Herman the Oliver 1950, and he has MERCHANDISE. The new T-shirts with artwork by Doug Nelson are ready, and they turned out great! Watch the video and go to my store for more details on how to get your shirt.
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Thank you for sharing your tractor with us viewers!
"The tractor, the myth, the legend", he's Herman!
That might need to be the next shirt!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris how many 1950 fwa were made?
Grew up 20 miles from Charles City, my sister and brother-in-law both worked at Oliver as well as many friends. Never had any Oliver tractors, but had a Oliver corn planter that was a really solid piece. My uncle had a 1650 gas I spent some time on it was sweet on a rotary hole, went like hell!
The glorious sound of American power! Someday I’m gonna get a Detroit Oliver put a snowblower on the 3 point so my neighbors can appreciate the sound !!
That would a great way to make some noise!
Great video Chris sure like the sound of those screaming GMC's. You got us all in the end. I'm a little dizzy right now, I better lay down. Thanks for showing us some more history on your farm.
Looked like loads of fun!!! Thanks 👍
Any big power tractor lover would love to have hermen in their colection
My dad and myself worked on that ranch. He fed hay with Herman and I used to ride inside those rear rims when we stacked hay with it in the summer. How cool! I didn't know you had videos on it!
That's awesome to get to sime that knew Herman back in the day. When my friend bought it , it had some kind of hay grapple on the back with a swivel seat.the hand throttle worked backwards so thry could get it to work with a foot throttle thry had made.
There isn't a sound ANY where like a Detroit Diesel singing in full song! Great job as always!!!
That’s a pretty cool view with that selfie stick! Always appreciate all of your work you do for the camera. Take care!
Thanks!
Thank Chris,
That tractor is like no other ever produced. I LOVE IT. I order my Lilly T. What a great idea with some great art work and saying.😂
Thank you!
My Grandfather had a 1950-T. I used to run it when I was in grade school.
That thing sounds like a diesel bus engine from the 50’s, Great sound , Great videos Thanks
Yep, Detroit Diesel powered a lot of buses back then. I think that was the sound they would use in tv and movies, no matter what engine it really had.
Would be interesting to learn all the options that were available for Oliver tractors.
Love that old tractor. It's sounds really good hooked to the sled. Blaine pulled that tractor few times at his home town pull
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I enjoy all your videos.
We had 4-71,4-53,,3-71,3-53 in the military, seabees mostly pettibone forklifts
Also had a Hobart welder with a 3-53
Nice machines
A 3-53 GM diesel ? In a habart welder ? I wonder how many AMP it was ? I'm a big Hobart fan, but never heard of a GM diesel being put in a welder,,
I was Army mechanic late 80's early 90's. we had the 4-71's 6-71's 8v92's. cant even count the times someone set the injectors or air gap wrong and blew them apart lol. soon as you crank it up zoooooom max rpms. guy shoved a clipboard over the turbo inlet, it sucked a perfect circle turbo inlet size. i jumped off the hmmt and ran lol. he finally shot a fire extinguisher into it to kill it.
being an army mechanic 8 years , it is my opinion that if you want to learn mechanic free through the military go navy, they train mechanics army trains parts changers
It doesn't ever get old hearing any 2 stroke Detroit up on the governor. Thanks for sharing Chris! Hopefully it didn't start up too bad for you in the cold.
I plugged him in, fired up like a summer day.
What say?...love the sound. Thats why old farmers were ston deaf.
Thanks for your time and effort in the video
Keep up the good work 👍👍
I really like your Oliver losey. Sounds like massively overreving until you consider firing every stroke. When a child around 1960, all the state county dump trucks had Jimmie diesel's and have always loved the sound of those trucks fully loaded. By the way they were automatics.
Very informational every one was waiting for the shirts
My grandpa named his tractors. Our 1929 John Deere D is Molly. And the 1939 H is the doodle popper. Or just doodley.
Thanks Chris for the explanation about how the Detroit diesel engines work and for taking the time to get these really cool shirts made up. I'll have to order one for the whole family.
Thank you!!
Darn cool Oliver! 👍 - Doug in Iowa
Thank you!
Okay great! Thanks for your help! Mine is the typical red and white, well now I know clover white!
Thank you sir I liked that one
Herman the man gotta love that bad to the bone tractor
very interesting bonus footage Chris - and certainly quieter! :-D
I originally had it in the middle of the video, but it made me a little dizzy watching it. I didn't want to make everyone sick. Lol
Thanks for the video! I’m sure Doug is making great shirts! If I ever get popular enough to make shirts, I’m sure I’ll contact him and try.
He does awesome work, and a really great guy to work with.
Hermans excellent 👍.
Lol snow cat Oliver. Chris you better hold on to that headset. That tractor is loud. No wonder it's called a "Screaming Jimmy"
That thing is awesome!
I grew up about 3 miles from the GM proving grounds in Milford Mi in the 69s. Outside the house you could hear them testing equipment with those things screaming away.
Still a bunch of them being used in timberjacks. I can always tell when someone in my area is getting some logging done. 😃
Nice old 1950 well worth restoration, and maybe seeing some work out of him. Keep us posted
You can see more of Herman working on this playlist.
th-cam.com/play/PLQb7sVI0XmuW2JWmm3LZ6vwafa9Hr8zSz.html
Nice tractor!! The G.M. , screaming Jimmy's eventually got the name Detroit Diesel from International who coined the name. International was a big purchaser of G.M.diesels. It did not look good putting a competitor engine in their trucks as GMC was also making big rigs at that time. Int'l renamed them Detroit's were they were made, Detroit, Michigan and the name stuck with the engines. As for Herman, I can hear him calling , AB AB AB Lily!!
G'day awesome tractor mate
Thans!
So Herman has his own tshirt now cool.
It was bound to happen. Lol
Love this Tractor. Love your videos.
Thank you
We have had our 2-155 apart to put an over under in it,and we are now putting it back together. Suprisingly, the shaft didn't come out and the engine came out fairly easy. And the small collar with the two holes slid right off the over under. Hope you get yours back together and nothing breaks!
The fertilizer guys always get stuck.
My 2-155 engine has been going back together this week. I've got to edit video, but should have something uploaded soon. Glad to hear your engine came out without any grief.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris yeah im suprised too
GMC put these motors in big rigs back in the day they called them screaming jimmy
Try to get some support from Big Tractor Power to help you restore Herman and get a clean paint job. Herman is Beautiful!
I have two shirts on the way and can't wait!
Awesome! Thank you!
Old Herman is a classic, I like him.
The only thing I think is unusual is that he is a 2-stroke
and it sounds like it is going at too high revs.
It's just because I'm not used to this.
Taking Herman for a walk in the snow😁 you could have made marks like the fertilizer guys if Herman was packing a load of fertilizer 😎
Yeah, they have floater tires too. Amazing what a few tons of fertilizer can do to your ability to stay on top! 😂😂
@@ThatOliverGuyChris lol.. I know what it does 😎
It doesn't help that it's muck that I moldboarded last fall. 😎
@@ThatOliverGuyChris excuses.... LOL
Where would we be without them! Lol
Herman is very classy machine!
I love this thing Chris! Very cool! I have a FWA 1850 Cockshutt, I'm working on and restoring. I'm wondering if you could help me out with the correct red and white paint codes? Thanks in advance!
This chart has everything you should need. For the white, it is my opinion that they used the same white that Oliver did. The clover white on this chart only has a hint of green, which is correct. The version of clover white that Agco has been selling has too much green and brown in it. Some say the Cockshutt 1850 used what was known as Bosslne white, which a straight white, so I leave that up to you. The Cockshutt yellow is for tractors before they were bought by White, so you can safely ignore that. If your 1850 is an early one with the two tone red/ tan paint scheme, let me know because the tan color is not on that chart and I'll have to do some asking around. When getting custom mixed colors, I always get it in the smallest quantity available for the first time, usually a pint. Then if doesn't look right you don't have a bunch of wasted paint. If it is right, you're all set to order the rest.
oliverheritage.com/paint-codes
Nice wood lot!
I have such a huge crush on Lily Munster. I am only 22 but I am a huge fan of tbe show. I have tbe whole series on dvd.
Awesome
Make some stickers too so I can have one on my tool box as I work on my 1850!
I bet I can do that.
Captain! She's gunna blow.
Hey Chris, just wondering about the 2 fuel caps on Herman’s fender tanks. We had an 1850 with them & it only had 1 cap per tank. Beautiful tractor, didn’t know that was a factory configuration!
The second cap is a dipstick. It was for gasoline tractors because they didn't use the vacuum of the main tank to empty the fenders like a diesel did. How Herman ended up with a set of dipsticks is beyond me. The port was in all the tanks, so it would be easy to add a set later on, and they didn't have to build 2 different tanks either.
That is a really neat piece of history!! Do you use him on a regular basis or just on occasion?
I guess I call it on occasion. I usually top dress wheat with him, pull some wagons around during harvest, some tillge here and there.
I have a set of the dust shields off a 1800 checkerboard industrial
Does it have fender fuel tanks?
No. sorry regular fenders,
Thanks for checking.
I stated think you got this tractor from southern Iowa. And farm had 1 like this for years.
I got it from eastern Iowa near the Quad cities. He had it for several years before buying it from the original owner in Nebraska.
How were the rear ends on the 100+ HP Olivers? I am talking about the ones with bull gears, not the bigger ones with the planetary drives.
They are stout. There's a lot of Olivers out there repowered with Cummins engines, and no one is setting the fuel back. Most are running 140-160 hp and haven't been having problems.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris That's good to know. I am no longer farming due to an accident. I just sold my 2-105 White. I hated to part with it. I never had any trouble with it at all, outside of normal stuff like tires, a few minor electrical problems. I figured they would be good to 125 HP but I would not run one at 160. It might be OK but that is a lot over stock.The Olivers and Whites both were excellent tractors. Oliver was ahead of their time and it is a shame White ever bought them out. They took the money Oliver made to prop up their failing truck line and eventually it all failed. Damn shame.
I'd feel safe up to 130 hp. A lot of it is dury cycle. Guys might turn them up to 160, but then just mow hay or run an auger with it.
The original BigFoot!
Think I saw dust shields at Pete's tractor salvage Annamoose ND.
I should have mentioned, the shields are different for fender tanks than for regular fenders.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris After you mentioned it , that makes sense, I have 1850 wheatland and have the shields I should have noticed the diffrence.
I find the fenders differnt then ive seen realy like them
Great story on Herman! I will be purchasing a few t-shirts, thanks for doing that for your viewers. Ok so I have a question about the fenders tanks, I noticed the ones on Herman have 2 caps per tank one is the fill and one is a dip stick to check fuel level correct? I have a set like that for or 1950T. Oliver66FarmBoy just did a video on fender tanks, and we were talking about the ones that had the 2 caps and thought they were for gas tractors. But now I see a set on Herman so maybe that's not the case. Do you have any idea or was it just a difference in design of the tanks over the years? Thanks again Chris
I was told the dipstick was only on the gas tractors. All the tanks I have seen have the pipe plug for the dipstick, so it would be easy enough to add them on to a diesel. I don't know if Herman came with this set or if they were added on. My 1650 gas had fender tanks without dipsticks, but I know it came with regular fenders from the factory and the fender tanks were added later. A farmer's cab was added at the same time, which if I remember correctly hung over the fenders enough to interfere with where the dipsticks go in.
And thanks for buying the shirts. Doug did a fantastic job on these. The building in the background is our family dealership, and the grain bins are from last summer during wheat harvest.
Hey Chris I have an oliver alot like Herman , how can I find out more about my oliver . like where was it sold , what year was it made ? Can you help please .
You need to buy a copy of the build card from the Floyd County museum. It tells how the tractor was equipped rolling off the assembly line, what day it was built, what day it was shipped, and which branch warehouse and city/state it was shipped to. Unfortunately they didn't put the name of the dealer, just the town and state. You'd have to ask around to figure out what the name of the dealership in that town was. They send a nice certificate with that information as well as copies (if they have them) of the build codes to show how your tractor was equipped. Visit the Floyd County museum website at Www.floydcountymuseum.org to get their contact info. I think it's $25, you'll need your serial number for them to look it up.
They claim the wide floater tires have less compaction and better traction than duals
I wonder if a fella could fabricate a selfie stick mount for the fender to get the angle shown at 9:24
I was thinking an umbrella mounting bracket would work good.
My family use to own a herman
But he needed tires real bad but We found out the tires where expansive so we trade him for his 2wd 1950 brother which we sold in 2016 when my family stopped milking cows
A lot of the terra tire Olivers were switched back to conventional ag tires due to the cost of replacement tires.
Chris Losey is there any way of knowing which had the terra tire option?
Yes there is. Get the build card from the Floyd County museum. The G codes are tires, G80 is the the 66x43-25 tires like on Herman. There was also a G81 the was a 67 inch tall tire that was a bit narrower than the 66s. K36 with L54 is the 48×25-20 front rims and tires.
Hey man whats your favorite rear tire? Need to replace my original 13.6-28 firestones on my deere 1050 m4wd, i was thibking the SAT 2's and i saw you have set mounted inside on your 2wd white you seeded corn with recently. Are the really good in hard pack, then withing 5 ft 3ft deep mud, then another 5 ft sidehill is up to puckering factor 5( i call Vermont home) lol
I like the SAT 2s, but my favorites are the Bf Goodrich I have on the 1655. Not that it sees lots of field work anymore, but when it does, those tires bite in great, plus they are wearing exceptionally well. They're called Power Radial 80.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris i really appreciate you taking the time to reply man thank you. I will look them up. Youre pulling alot more weight as im only dragging big pines out, which is whats making the ground as soft and muddy as your fields.
Not to be a kiss ass doosh, but im impressed watching you actually open up your machines yourself aswell with knowledge, not blind 1 part at a time as myself. Yet when youre not sure you actually admitt it, in my neck of the woods thats where respect is earned.
Keep kickin ass and i hope all is well
Kids liked the bound footage, as for me it’s a Herman video don’t think there are any bad ones
Kids always like to climb in Herman's rear wheels. That's what they would have seen if the rode n there. Plus I'd have to hose the puke out of my rim. Lol
What is the HP.and torque produced
It was advertised at 105 PTO horsepower. There's all sorts of details from the University of Nebraska test. digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1559&context=tractormuseumlit
I never was around an Oliver... are the fenders the fuel tank? They look awfully thick.
They are auxiliary fuel tanks. They were an option, and would add about 78 gallons fuel capacity to the tractor in addition to the main tank that is around 35 gallons.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris ok, thanks!!!
Screaming Jimmy
They used to say if you had a Detroit in a trk slam the door on your hand and drive it like your mad at it
Hell yeah its real and I want 1
Cool shirts! Who got the tractor and what tractor stuck lol
It was one of the floater trucks from the place that spreads my fertilizer. That last one was deep!
Very nice..do you ever here of Re.peckens Oliver dealer in cohoctah Michigan...
Yes I have. My 1955 was originally sold by RE Peckens. Dad and I went to their auction and bought quite a bit of stuff. I still have the gasket cabinet from there.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris yeah nice in about 8 miles from there..
Wow it would no doubt be a job to change those rear tires more or less having to buy 4 tires for this one.
Mounting them isn't too bad since they are on a split rim. Getting the beads to seat is another story...
Being a split rim, they should be tube type, but I've been wrong before........
These are tubeless. There's a large o ring that goes in a groove just behind the retaining ring. That seals the outer bead to the rim.
Chris, a good friend of mine here in Wa has a small Oliver Cletrac that’s in surprisingly decent shape. He’s been trying to sell it for a while but not much market for that here it seems. You have any interest in it?
Washington is a long ways to go, and I concentrate on wheel tractors, but thanks for asking.
Chris Losey 10-4, I figured as much. Not much useful work that can be done with an old Cletrac. Just drive it in circles.
Hey, Chris! How's Herman do in the snow?? LOL!!
We need some REAL snow. I've been hoping for a couple feet to try him in since I got him, not this pansy snow we have now. Lol
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Come here, we have about 4 feet of snow.
That would be fun to try!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris The only problem is that you have to cross the Atlantic all the way to Sweden.
I guess I could really find out Herman floats.
I would hate to buy new rubber for this!
Me too. Last time I checked it would be about $10k for new ones.. I've been landing some good deals on used ones, so I do have some spares now.
chris how is your 2-155 coming along
Starting to go back together. I'm planning on that being the next video
Herman is a brute. Too bad I I'll never get a chance to operate one.
Who had to pull out the fertilizer spreader
They did got it out themselves.
Does Herman float?
I have heard tale of someone that had one, taking it for a spin in a lake, and that it floated. I did some rough math, and he should float, but I don't think much would be above the surface.
Chris Losey it’d probably be wise not to find out😂
No herman doesnt float. Watch the vid where herman sunk
I have one sitting and resting for future work. Just do not build stuff like this today.
That is loud! I have a gas Ford 4000 that is much quieter! Not as boss as Herman though!
C’mon man you wanna be a youtuber with no wind mic?
I'm crazy enough to try it. Lol I've got to say he hero7 did a great job recording for as gusty as it was. I recorded the audio with my phone to have a backup to overlay, but didn't end up using that.