After misclicking on two Calm Filaments, I can confirm that this fit can do a T1 Gamma Deadspace Abyssal, I came out after 14 mimutes with 19% shield and no cap. Alive, just but with a shed load of loot. Nice fit mate, and I love your TH-cam content.
Just did my VERY FIRST abyssal with this in under 5 minutes. Had to swap the collision accelerator for another router II and an overclocking unit I because of my skills. It was still no contest in there. Thanks for making this content accessible!
@@captainbenzie @Tanidar93 AFAIK thats stoped working many years ago modules on the outside are now considered adjacent to each other so e.g. in a 3 slot layout it doesnt matter any more only in a 4+ slot layout you can heat gap stuff
just making people aware I would recommend these mods at a MINIMUM because due to alpha skills you really need the extra bit of range from the t2 cannons I would also recommend using the faction ammo since it's only slightly more expensive per shot and does way more damage
lol came here cause I attempted a first abyss run yesterday and failed comically. Some veteran took me with him and I didn't even know what it was. First it took me ages to get inside the abyssal trace cause I kept clicking the big yellow thing not knowing the trace is on a list and can only be accessed through that list. Then when we got in I kept chasing this 1 enemy and got killed before I could kill it. Didn't even realize how much hp the enemy has until rewatching my recording later on. Tried to escape in a pod only to get blown up and jumpscared when the trace exploded lmao. Thank you so much for enlightening people so no one else needs to screw up this badly. Gigachad still paid me my share tho. I am still somewhat confused but it seems exciting. :D
Welcome to EVE Online - it can be very confusing to new players as everything important is on the overview lists, not on the screen where all the action is 😉 don't worry though, you WILL get there eventually! We all had to start somewhere!
The Thrasher is one of my top five favorite ships, and tied with the Loki for my favorite Minmatar. Looking forward to trying one doing more advanced stuff as I haven't flown one when I first started doing M2's and ratting 9 years ago. The lightning quick combat here looks really fun!
I’ve got a station out in low sec about 30 jumps from jita that I use for Clone Soldier hunting with the thrasher hulls. Each tag I get is worth 1.3M and I occasionally get a module that is worth 3.3M. I’m only out there during the low player count times of year but it’s just as fun jumping mining belt to mining belt killing rats, reprocessing the loot and building more thrashers to kill more Clone Soldiers. You should totally try it out since the thrasher can work in most low sec clone areas.
@@davidnobular9220 I’m only able to do the lowest tier clone soldier, anything higher will need a much more expensive fit. What I have allows me to build more ships/fits without needing to go to proper station or ITC
I've been running this fit and it definitely works as advertised although I think you're understating the skills required to get this kind of alpha. All my relevant gunnery skills are at IV with small turret V and artillery specialization at III with Minmatar Destroyer skill at III (10 hours from IV) and my alpha with this exact build (including faction ammo) is 1499, probably a little over 1550 when level IV destroyer finishes. Quite effective but to get an additional 450 I think it would take 2 months or more to get destroyer to V and gunnery V, rapid firing V, surgical strike V and small artillery specialization V. Not exactly an easy train. Also, before I got small turret to level V I had to use t1 artillery and I fitted a EM shield hardener in case I ran into the skybreaker. Without a big enough alpha you really need the extra em resistance if you want to survive it. The shield extender isn't going to do much for you in that scenario. Also, I think you must have advanced weapon upgrades IV to be able to go with just 1 ancillary current router on this build. I have II and Power Grid Management V and I need the second rig to make this fit. I have level III Adv Weapon Upgrades queued which takes 15h to train without implants and/or remap. Not sure if the 2% reduction in powergrid need for turrets will get me the extra 4 points I need but I guess we'll see. If I do I'll likely through in a capacitor rig because I do find with some of the spawns I'm running out my cap to regen my shield and then I have to sit and let my cap regen for 30 seconds to a minute before jumping to next room. With my 1500 alpha I sometimes get through these sites in 3 minutes but that's a perfect run with biocombinative can directly in line with the gate behind it and all easy spawns. If the gate and can don't line up or the spawns close on you before you can target the can and/or the skybreaker shows up, it definitely takes longer. You also have a 1 minute timer before you can activate a new abyss once you exit. I'd say realistically for most players with level IV skills like I have they're going to max out somewhere between 10 and 15 runs per hour and make about 12 to 18 million isk minus the cost of faction ammo which does add up a bit. After about 40 or 50 runs in total I've only seen 2 blueprints. 1 that's probably only saleable in a combo pack other bps for about 750K and another that's worth about 3 million isk.
Thanks for your breakdown! For anyone else reading this, Power Grid Management V and Advanced Weapon Upgrades V will get you to the power grid requirements showcased in this video with only 1 ancillary current router.
In my runs of Abyssal Deadspaces, I have found it useful to double-click near the Cache instead of clicking "Approach". That way, when I blast the Cache the target I'm approaching doesn't disappear, resulting in my ship slowing towards a stop as I have enemies orbiting trying to shoot me. 😉
back, when i was playing EO, i used a Navy Slicer to run T0 and T1 electricals. It does less damage (took like 5 minutes to clear a tranquill electrical, and 15 for Calm Electrical), but it's faster and has a range up to 41 km, which is really usefull against the drone battlecruiser ans sansha cruiser in those abyses. PS "cause of the price of tranquill electrical filaments there's no point farming them, but if U get those filaments for free.
@@fergus247 Just learn the algorythms of your enemies and dodge them. Most of them can be outranged, some should be hit on low orbits etc. It ain't that hard - after loosing your tenth ship you'll learn it.
Benzie, I really like Your way of describing everything, but please add in topic or description which TIER You do with this setup etc. cuz I just wasted my time in watching a vid from a begining just to see You go for a T0 tranquil Abyss ;) and I tought its for T1 or above. Greets! and do what You do, cuz You do it awesome!
Hi, very nice fit, test it today, i have not ran any abyssals in the last year and was a nice setup to reorient myself with from base level. i have just over 2000 hit points alpha strike due to max skills for the fit, could have it higher if i use a Agency Pyrolancea and or a Halcyon daily booster.
Amazing fun build and super effective, if no skills for T2 Howitzer use T1 and will still do it, slightly slower but still fun ! Keep these coming, Just subscribed to the channel and will be keeping an eye on your tips :P
Very nice fit. I'm curious to see if it could do higher filaments since it blasts through a 0 so quickly. Also props on giving credit to other creators. Love Aceface's content but I'll be sure to give him an o7 from Benzies crew on his next video.
I would say, even though you take minimal damage, it's because you are perma running an mwd, an ab would slow you down a bit but dramatically minimize your sig radius and take less damage. Just a suggestion you should try no extender, no booster, instead use ab, target painter and tracking with optimal range script and high slot an auto targeting, enjoy
Thanks for your great videos, have got me back into eve. Question. I have level 5 on power management and cpu management but I can't get enough power for this fit to work about 9 power short anything I'm missing.
@@captainbenzie Thanks or i might just drop an extra Small Ancillary Current Router in the rig, Thanks and again loving the content. One more question. Loving the Thrasher and killed my first Clone Recruiter today with it. But, whats the best option for upgrading either Minmatar or Gallente?
@@benbeazley2974 honestly, it depends what you enjoy. I could say that the Vexor is an incredibly popular and powerful cruiser capable of a lot of different PvE and PvP content. But that depends if you enjoy drones. What kind of content do you enjoy? What ships do you enjoy? If you like the Thrasher and Abyssals, I just did a video about the Rupture yesterday (and the Vagabond will be tomorrow). If you're interested in Wormholes or Agent Missions, the Hurricane can be a great starting point, or the Loki or Vargur can be great endpoints. It all depends 😅
I saw the Rapture video it was great and you're right I need to work out my vibe. Not a drone fan (a bit fussy) enjoy brawling. Thanks for the advice. As I say I love the stuff and have just signed up for your Patreon. Everyone should climb aboard.
I tried running abyssal when I returned to the game after a number of years absence. I had just brought a full set of implants and I had no idea you could loose your pod
It seems like the filaments are way less isk for exotic than the electrical ones right now, I would say give the Corax a look if you skilled up missiles
Dark and Exotic T0 can be easy finished in 5 min with missile frigates like Kestrel or Hookbill (T2 Rockets or Caldary Navy Light Messiles), 1.5-2kk per run, about 20kk/hour. Anchor secure container in spot to store loot and save time.
love your guide, thanks !!! however i dont manage to get the 7th 280mm howitzer active on the ship, not enough power grid, i dont know what causes it :'( I got everything like you show on your video my powergrid management is maxed, weapon upgrades is lvl 4
ok thanks ! will take a look ^^ @@captainbenzie (anyway, I still manage to farm tranquil filaments in 5min each thanks to you !) (ok the skybreaker disparu in gamma kicked my ass lol)
Interesting vid would love to see a fit that can fly through t1 dead spaces ive been doing something similar to this in my catalyst could squeeze a warp drive onto my build though takes about 4min 30 on average
Since this fit is essentially kill tanking, I'm curious if you couldn't swap out the Shield Extender for a Target Painter, Tracking Computer, or something else to help bump your damage?
Do you have any advice on running fast t1 and t2? I'm currently running t0 between 2:45 and 3:20 with the Ishkur plus 5 drones, its an intense 3 mins though lol... I have invested heavily over the years in hybrid turrets so at the moment I'm a little stuck with turret ships... My next aim is to complete t1 in 5 mins, but only getting 8 mins in a slightly improved Ishkur, mainly improved tank as i cannot seem to squeeze much more dps with this ship, but the t1 seem to require a more tactical approach rather than my all out speed as in the t0.
Honestly, I've found it's often better to just run multiple T0 in the time it'd take to do T1s. Check how much ISK you're making - you might find that T1+ simply isn't worth it by comparison.
I had a feeling that was the case... and by looking at other peoples time breaking 5 mins in t1 is hard... im making around 40M per hour with t0... if I manage to crack it I will let you know 😊
Does this fit allow you to beat a skybreaker? i just got wrekt by a skybreaker and my thrasher didn't stand a chance against it. was running tranquil gamma filament, with exlposive fusion s ammo. the thrasher performed well up until the sky broke me. lost 60m worth of implants b/c of it as well.
Brand new to the game - tried this but I don't know how to control the ship to avoid the invisible boundary. You know what happened. 😵😭 Sad times. Any tips on how to fly ships.? I just can't seem to know where I am in the room. So...is there another activity like this where I'm not limited to a small area? Maybe there I can practice contoling the ship and still make decent ISK. (thx - subbed)
Yup, I've got a tutorial on manual piloting and navigation. It's all a learning experience and if I can give ONE tip, it's never be afraid of loss. Loss is learning in EVE! You'll get there!
Captain Benzie, I am confused by this fitting. I am an Omega with 16M-ish SP and, I think, most of the skills trained to use this fit effectively. I configured my Thrasher just like your fit described above, but cannot put more than 4 of the Howitzers online because of power limitations. What might I be doing wrong? Has this ship or these modules changed since this video? What skills do I need to train to put all 7 of the guns online at once? With 4 guns online, my capacitor stats are: 515.0 GJ / 217.50 s (delta) -6.3 GJ/s (-106.5%)
Capacitor doesn't matter for fitting weaponry. Capacitor is like your battery for keeping modules running. Powergrid is what matters. Powergrid Management, Weapons Upgrades, and Advanced Weapons Upgrades will help.
It CAN do T1s with the exception of a few spawns, but there are better options. The advantage here is the speed it does T0s. In T1s it's way too risky imho.
@@andrewlundin7194 "what's the point in this" Check the price of the Gila and the SP required to run it, then check this one. Oh, and what if I don't have Caldari/Gallente skills and don't want them? I could argue I make 200m ISK/hr in a Gila running C3 sites so what's the point in T4 Abyssals? If you're doing better than this fit can, awesome! Not everyone can and my content is not geared around "being the best", it's about "having fun" 😉
@@andrewlundin7194more lucrative ships are inevitable as you skill up and earn enough to buy better ships. For you there might not be much point in this fit but there are a lot of people that it’ll work for.
Returning player with 11mill sp alpha pilot with mostly 4s in all relevant fitting and gunnery/missile. I've got a 300 DPS 32k ehp caracal fitted wondering how to use it, is T1 abyssal the answer?
I donno if it's because I did this on a Punisher, which is a Frigate, but I had a lot more targets than that to take down on the first gate! Which, unfortunately, caused me to blow up.
I'm giving up now in Deadspace and Calm Gamma Filament. I have tried 3 times with an Algos and 5 Hobgoblin 2 drones. But every time I get killed in the first room.
I wouldn't bother with darks due to the turret penalties. It can do T1, but it's slow and risky, and works out worse than just doing multiple T0s in the same time.
@@captainbenzie i ran this build until i got webbed and warp disrupted by 3 rat frigates, it was good until it's not so i just run things with no minimum range now
Just went to do this but made the mistake of trying to do a combat site I was passing on the way by to pick up filaments.. died in under 60 seconds.. I can say I'm awful at this game lol
hmmm this is not working at all for me; I have a character with all fives on this ship, and I can't survive a calm electrical. It was a Drekavac that got me in the second room; he stopped taking any damage from me, then he broke my tank super fast. Also, there were four enemies in the first room and four in the second. Yeah, I know, I suck...
I didn't say this was the best or the cheapest. The Corax that you've mentioned in numerous of my comments is cheaper, yes. You can also use a Thrasher cheaper. That's not the point of the video 😉
@@captainbenzie i insinuated that you did. Regardless, spending near 7 times the amount of ISK to shave a 2 minutes off an abyss run is impractical. For 20m you can slap something together to run T1's instead and make even more ISK. Point being, i don't understand the point of this build. People coming to these videos tend to be newbros that are broke, so they watch the vid, see the price and stay lost on what to do to get that amount of ISK in the first place, hence my comments.
Thrasher Fleet Issue is a lot more expensive and doesn't add any Alpha at all (in fact, the TFI has LESS alpha since it has the same +5% damage bonus, but on six turrets, rather than 7) Yes, it has rate of fire bonuses, which THEORETICALLY math higher (6 turrets + 25% +25% = 9.375 turrets, compared to 7 turrets + 25% = 8.75 turrets) but since we're aiming for alpha damage, not straight up DPS, and with the lower cycle time of artillery, you end up often being slower (lower alpha plus higher rate of fire often equates to more shots fired) and more ammo used, alongside a more expensive ship. The TFI is a great ship, but I really feel it's bonuses shout for Autocannons and magnified DPS rather than raw alpha. That said, I'm glad you're enjoying the ship and flying what you enjoy is 100% more important than flying "the best"! 😊
@@captainbenzie I know there are always pronunciation differences, but I checked in multiple languages, its always been "Cash" Not a big deal, It just made me twitch xD
Check my video on everything you need to know about Abyssals! In short, Abyssals are meant for either: 1 Cruiser 2 Destroyers 3 Frigates If you are going in Destroyers or Frigates, you MUST be in a fleet, and use the required number of filaments (two or three) even if doing it solo. Using multiple filaments does increase the loot (double or triple) so soloing can be very lucrative.
@captainbenzie Thanks for explaining, I did my first tranquil electric T0 last night. With a punisher build, honestly it was so easy. I'm a mimitaur main so I'm going to look at what ships I can comfortably do a T2 or 3
@@trueinstinctt2698 Solo T2 or T3 is going to be Cruiser for Minmatar, especially the Vagabond or Muninn, which will both go up to T5 with the right fit and boosters
Ehm, not to be picky but the video kinda disproves the "alpha over DPS" theory. You almost never single-shotted a ship, and it worked only half the times on caches. You could have fitted the rig for RoF instead of damage, making the runs at bit faster. I'm not arguing the fit, it's good. I'm not saying use AC, artillery is fine. I'm just saying the video doesn't showcase volley damage much.
Your fit is *overkill* My catalyst in noob 2ndary account got 466 alpha and 163dps. 1 shield booster, no shield extender and 2heats (and a co-processor in low to amke it work) long story short: it was laughable easy.... ~ at times i got a shield dmg down to 70% but by then the enemy already was on fire. I didnt stop my time but it was like 4 minutes or so (my fit inkl ship costs 4.8m btw) This one is fairly easy especially with a friend. we yielded 1.72m which is fair for a few minutes :)
@@captainbenzie I picked up on your subtle humor once i watched a few more videos of yours. Yes, you sorta joke at 0:45, but it comes off (like many do) as a recommendation. The Thrasher doesn't doo that well in lvl2 since its rather fragile and short on cap. At least that's my experience. I will try the Rapture. My old luv.
"what's the point of this"? Check the price of the Gila and the SP required to run it, then check this one. Oh, and what if I don't have Caldari/Gallente skills and don't want them? I could argue I make 200m ISK/hr in a Gila running C3 sites so what's the point in T4 Abyssals? If you're doing better than this fit can, awesome! Not everyone can and my content is not geared around "being the best", it's about "having fun" 😉
Got confused. Attacked a jump gate and joined goonswarm. I’ll do better on my next run
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After misclicking on two Calm Filaments, I can confirm that this fit can do a T1 Gamma Deadspace Abyssal, I came out after 14 mimutes with 19% shield and no cap. Alive, just but with a shed load of loot. Nice fit mate, and I love your TH-cam content.
Glad you're enjoying, both the content and the fit! Well done!
Just did my VERY FIRST abyssal with this in under 5 minutes. Had to swap the collision accelerator for another router II and an overclocking unit I because of my skills. It was still no contest in there. Thanks for making this content accessible!
Glad it helped!!
I'm a simple man. Crystal Maze references get a like. Excellent execution of the video also gets a like, but I can only like so many times. Top job.
Thanks for that!
Loaded up my Thrasher with Artillery and ran my first Tranquil Electric last night. Smooth as glass. Thanks.
Glad you're enjoying and happy to help!
place mwd and shield booster on the opposite slots and place shieldex in between. So if you heat your shb it will not burn out the mwd )
This doesn't ever get overheated but otherwise very good tip 😊
@@captainbenzie @Tanidar93 AFAIK thats stoped working many years ago modules on the outside are now considered adjacent to each other so e.g. in a 3 slot layout it doesnt matter any more only in a 4+ slot layout you can heat gap stuff
@@gojuadorai as far as I was told, placement no longer matters at all. The entire "shelf" is adjacent, if that makes sense.
@@gojuadorai oh wow, ok
just making people aware I would recommend these mods at a MINIMUM because due to alpha skills you really need the extra bit of range from the t2 cannons I would also recommend using the faction ammo since it's only slightly more expensive per shot and does way more damage
if you are struggling with survivability you might be able to use a dcu in a low though I have not tested it to see if it fits
I've got another video that shows a much more basic Thrasher with a similar fit doing the same thing. But good tips!
lol came here cause I attempted a first abyss run yesterday and failed comically. Some veteran took me with him and I didn't even know what it was. First it took me ages to get inside the abyssal trace cause I kept clicking the big yellow thing not knowing the trace is on a list and can only be accessed through that list. Then when we got in I kept chasing this 1 enemy and got killed before I could kill it. Didn't even realize how much hp the enemy has until rewatching my recording later on. Tried to escape in a pod only to get blown up and jumpscared when the trace exploded lmao. Thank you so much for enlightening people so no one else needs to screw up this badly. Gigachad still paid me my share tho. I am still somewhat confused but it seems exciting. :D
Welcome to EVE Online - it can be very confusing to new players as everything important is on the overview lists, not on the screen where all the action is 😉 don't worry though, you WILL get there eventually! We all had to start somewhere!
The Thrasher is one of my top five favorite ships, and tied with the Loki for my favorite Minmatar. Looking forward to trying one doing more advanced stuff as I haven't flown one when I first started doing M2's and ratting 9 years ago. The lightning quick combat here looks really fun!
Good luck!
Like a squirrel crossed with a Piranha, vicious little thing. Also discovered by accident it can do Darks. Thanks for this!
I’ve got a station out in low sec about 30 jumps from jita that I use for Clone Soldier hunting with the thrasher hulls. Each tag I get is worth 1.3M and I occasionally get a module that is worth 3.3M. I’m only out there during the low player count times of year but it’s just as fun jumping mining belt to mining belt killing rats, reprocessing the loot and building more thrashers to kill more Clone Soldiers. You should totally try it out since the thrasher can work in most low sec clone areas.
Nice!
How does it go against the Clone Recruiter ?
@@davidnobular9220 I’m only able to do the lowest tier clone soldier, anything higher will need a much more expensive fit. What I have allows me to build more ships/fits without needing to go to proper station or ITC
@@Orion_Icaoa Thanks !
In a word...excellent lol! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the awesome info. I started following you before I quit eve echoes.
I appreciate that!
I've been running this fit and it definitely works as advertised although I think you're understating the skills required to get this kind of alpha. All my relevant gunnery skills are at IV with small turret V and artillery specialization at III with Minmatar Destroyer skill at III (10 hours from IV) and my alpha with this exact build (including faction ammo) is 1499, probably a little over 1550 when level IV destroyer finishes. Quite effective but to get an additional 450 I think it would take 2 months or more to get destroyer to V and gunnery V, rapid firing V, surgical strike V and small artillery specialization V. Not exactly an easy train.
Also, before I got small turret to level V I had to use t1 artillery and I fitted a EM shield hardener in case I ran into the skybreaker. Without a big enough alpha you really need the extra em resistance if you want to survive it. The shield extender isn't going to do much for you in that scenario.
Also, I think you must have advanced weapon upgrades IV to be able to go with just 1 ancillary current router on this build. I have II and Power Grid Management V and I need the second rig to make this fit. I have level III Adv Weapon Upgrades queued which takes 15h to train without implants and/or remap. Not sure if the 2% reduction in powergrid need for turrets will get me the extra 4 points I need but I guess we'll see. If I do I'll likely through in a capacitor rig because I do find with some of the spawns I'm running out my cap to regen my shield and then I have to sit and let my cap regen for 30 seconds to a minute before jumping to next room.
With my 1500 alpha I sometimes get through these sites in 3 minutes but that's a perfect run with biocombinative can directly in line with the gate behind it and all easy spawns. If the gate and can don't line up or the spawns close on you before you can target the can and/or the skybreaker shows up, it definitely takes longer. You also have a 1 minute timer before you can activate a new abyss once you exit. I'd say realistically for most players with level IV skills like I have they're going to max out somewhere between 10 and 15 runs per hour and make about 12 to 18 million isk minus the cost of faction ammo which does add up a bit. After about 40 or 50 runs in total I've only seen 2 blueprints. 1 that's probably only saleable in a combo pack other bps for about 750K and another that's worth about 3 million isk.
Thanks for your breakdown!
For anyone else reading this, Power Grid Management V and Advanced Weapon Upgrades V will get you to the power grid requirements showcased in this video with only 1 ancillary current router.
Sorry. Did I got that right for an hour work you make 12 to 18million? Or per run. 120-180million?
@@cyberfuker85 per hour of course - we are talking about tranqul abysses. Waste of time. :)
Great Fit, I made a very similar one for Catalyst, doesn't have the same kick, but can still run in 2-4 mins
Oh nice!
Your fit for catalyst please
@@legarneceric3774 check the catalyst video
In my runs of Abyssal Deadspaces, I have found it useful to double-click near the Cache instead of clicking "Approach".
That way, when I blast the Cache the target I'm approaching doesn't disappear, resulting in my ship slowing towards a stop as I have enemies orbiting trying to shoot me. 😉
Great tip!
I have been following for a while to. You make me want to switch to Eve Online to.
Might be worth giving it a go! It's totally free to try and you can even use my referral code for a quick boost to your SP.
back, when i was playing EO, i used a Navy Slicer to run T0 and T1 electricals. It does less damage (took like 5 minutes to clear a tranquill electrical, and 15 for Calm Electrical), but it's faster and has a range up to 41 km, which is really usefull against the drone battlecruiser ans sansha cruiser in those abyses.
PS "cause of the price of tranquill electrical filaments there's no point farming them, but if U get those filaments for free.
Very good points. I need to grab a slicer
how did you get a navy slicer into the the abysaal places? its currently my favorite ship but it seems i need a cruiser to do abyssal solo
@@fergus247 Just learn the algorythms of your enemies and dodge them. Most of them can be outranged, some should be hit on low orbits etc. It ain't that hard - after loosing your tenth ship you'll learn it.
Benzie, I really like Your way of describing everything, but please add in topic or description which TIER You do with this setup etc. cuz I just wasted my time in watching a vid from a begining just to see You go for a T0 tranquil Abyss ;) and I tought its for T1 or above. Greets! and do what You do, cuz You do it awesome!
It can do T1s, but it's risky and this earns more per hour through T0s than many of my T1 ships make! 😅
Beautiful! You make it look so easy. I have to try it. Thank you 😁
You can do it!
The Thrasher is the best ship in the game imo :)
One of my favourites for sure!
Hi,
very nice fit, test it today, i have not ran any abyssals in the last year and was a nice setup to reorient myself with from base level.
i have just over 2000 hit points alpha strike due to max skills for the fit, could have it higher if i use a Agency Pyrolancea and or a Halcyon daily booster.
Glad you're enjoying!!
Thanks for shoutout :)
Thanks for the excellent content! Hope my community can learn from you too!
@@captainbenzie You too ;)
Amazing fun build and super effective, if no skills for T2 Howitzer use T1 and will still do it, slightly slower but still fun ! Keep these coming, Just subscribed to the channel and will be keeping an eye on your tips :P
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying!!
Very nice fit. I'm curious to see if it could do higher filaments since it blasts through a 0 so quickly.
Also props on giving credit to other creators. Love Aceface's content but I'll be sure to give him an o7 from Benzies crew on his next video.
I've not really tried tbh. It's quite a jump to T1 but worth a go, I guess!
Lol, I just noticed the agent called Aminald Beinarakur. Beinarakur means "bone-skinny" in Faroese. Basically means he's just "skin and bones." 😂
I would say, even though you take minimal damage, it's because you are perma running an mwd, an ab would slow you down a bit but dramatically minimize your sig radius and take less damage. Just a suggestion you should try no extender, no booster, instead use ab, target painter and tracking with optimal range script and high slot an auto targeting, enjoy
Also more alpha in rigs
I'll give it a try!
Thanks for your great videos, have got me back into eve. Question. I have level 5 on power management and cpu management but I can't get enough power for this fit to work about 9 power short anything I'm missing.
Check things like Weapon Upgrades that reduce PG usage of certain modules.
@@captainbenzie Thanks or i might just drop an extra Small Ancillary Current Router in the rig, Thanks and again loving the content. One more question. Loving the Thrasher and killed my first Clone Recruiter today with it. But, whats the best option for upgrading either Minmatar or Gallente?
@@benbeazley2974 honestly, it depends what you enjoy. I could say that the Vexor is an incredibly popular and powerful cruiser capable of a lot of different PvE and PvP content. But that depends if you enjoy drones.
What kind of content do you enjoy? What ships do you enjoy? If you like the Thrasher and Abyssals, I just did a video about the Rupture yesterday (and the Vagabond will be tomorrow). If you're interested in Wormholes or Agent Missions, the Hurricane can be a great starting point, or the Loki or Vargur can be great endpoints.
It all depends 😅
I saw the Rapture video it was great and you're right I need to work out my vibe. Not a drone fan (a bit fussy) enjoy brawling.
Thanks for the advice. As I say I love the stuff and have just signed up for your Patreon. Everyone should climb aboard.
I tried running abyssal when I returned to the game after a number of years absence. I had just brought a full set of implants and I had no idea you could loose your pod
Oof that stings
His corax fit is what I use and love it. You have an ingame channel? Also ability remaps and implants would be a good video
We don't have an in-game channel yet, just Corp 😊
It seems like the filaments are way less isk for exotic than the electrical ones right now, I would say give the Corax a look if you skilled up missiles
Dark and Exotic T0 can be easy finished in 5 min with missile frigates like Kestrel or Hookbill (T2 Rockets or Caldary Navy Light Messiles), 1.5-2kk per run, about 20kk/hour. Anchor secure container in spot to store loot and save time.
Yup, and I've covered those separately too. I just like to give lots of different options and showcase unusual/fun ways
love your guide, thanks !!! however i dont manage to get the 7th 280mm howitzer active on the ship, not enough power grid, i dont know what causes it :'( I got everything like you show on your video
my powergrid management is maxed, weapon upgrades is lvl 4
I have Advanced Weapon Upgrades in this video. That may be why.
ok thanks ! will take a look ^^ @@captainbenzie (anyway, I still manage to farm tranquil filaments in 5min each thanks to you !) (ok the skybreaker disparu in gamma kicked my ass lol)
little update, I tried a Catalyst build with a stasis webifier, i dont have any issue anymore, the skybreaker is dead haha
Upgraded to the Thasher Fleet Issue. The fun has been doubled!
Nice! I have a TFI but haven't touched it yet other than moving it to dock.
Yeah but can it run T1s?
Interesting vid would love to see a fit that can fly through t1 dead spaces ive been doing something similar to this in my catalyst could squeeze a warp drive onto my build though takes about 4min 30 on average
The thing you'll often find with Abyssals is that it can be more lucrative to run multiple T0s rather than try and run a single T1.
Yeah, lunch break benzie video break.
Hope you enjoy!
@Captain Benzie so far been pretty good but still rolling.
Since this fit is essentially kill tanking, I'm curious if you couldn't swap out the Shield Extender for a Target Painter, Tracking Computer, or something else to help bump your damage?
Possibly, but especially from the cruisers there's always a chance of a lucky shot hitting you
Do you have any advice on running fast t1 and t2?
I'm currently running t0 between 2:45 and 3:20 with the Ishkur plus 5 drones, its an intense 3 mins though lol... I have invested heavily over the years in hybrid turrets so at the moment I'm a little stuck with turret ships...
My next aim is to complete t1 in 5 mins, but only getting 8 mins in a slightly improved Ishkur, mainly improved tank as i cannot seem to squeeze much more dps with this ship, but the t1 seem to require a more tactical approach rather than my all out speed as in the t0.
Honestly, I've found it's often better to just run multiple T0 in the time it'd take to do T1s. Check how much ISK you're making - you might find that T1+ simply isn't worth it by comparison.
I had a feeling that was the case... and by looking at other peoples time breaking 5 mins in t1 is hard... im making around 40M per hour with t0... if I manage to crack it I will let you know 😊
Would love some tips on t4-t6 abyssals solo.... that's where it gets hard.
Know your ship, know your priorities
Aceface is insane !
Ain't he just!
"At NOH, Boredom is the Enemy!"
😂
Does this fit allow you to beat a skybreaker? i just got wrekt by a skybreaker and my thrasher didn't stand a chance against it. was running tranquil gamma filament, with exlposive fusion s ammo. the thrasher performed well up until the sky broke me. lost 60m worth of implants b/c of it as well.
You MUST have over 120 dps for those ships.
Brand new to the game - tried this but I don't know how to control the ship to avoid the invisible boundary. You know what happened. 😵😭 Sad times. Any tips on how to fly ships.? I just can't seem to know where I am in the room. So...is there another activity like this where I'm not limited to a small area? Maybe there I can practice contoling the ship and still make decent ISK. (thx - subbed)
Yup, I've got a tutorial on manual piloting and navigation. It's all a learning experience and if I can give ONE tip, it's never be afraid of loss. Loss is learning in EVE! You'll get there!
Captain Benzie, I am confused by this fitting. I am an Omega with 16M-ish SP and, I think, most of the skills trained to use this fit effectively. I configured my Thrasher just like your fit described above, but cannot put more than 4 of the Howitzers online because of power limitations. What might I be doing wrong? Has this ship or these modules changed since this video? What skills do I need to train to put all 7 of the guns online at once?
With 4 guns online, my capacitor stats are:
515.0 GJ / 217.50 s
(delta) -6.3 GJ/s (-106.5%)
Capacitor doesn't matter for fitting weaponry. Capacitor is like your battery for keeping modules running.
Powergrid is what matters. Powergrid Management, Weapons Upgrades, and Advanced Weapons Upgrades will help.
Hi Benzie! Do you think this fit would survive t1 abyssals? Would the greater rewards warrant the increased risk?
It CAN do T1s with the exception of a few spawns, but there are better options. The advantage here is the speed it does T0s. In T1s it's way too risky imho.
How much isk do you get each run? I do T4s on farm in Gila and make 100-130mil/hr. No way this comes close…what’s the point of this? Lol
@@andrewlundin7194 "what's the point in this"
Check the price of the Gila and the SP required to run it, then check this one.
Oh, and what if I don't have Caldari/Gallente skills and don't want them?
I could argue I make 200m ISK/hr in a Gila running C3 sites so what's the point in T4 Abyssals?
If you're doing better than this fit can, awesome! Not everyone can and my content is not geared around "being the best", it's about "having fun" 😉
@@andrewlundin7194more lucrative ships are inevitable as you skill up and earn enough to buy better ships. For you there might not be much point in this fit but there are a lot of people that it’ll work for.
"why would I run new player content when I can run content that took 60 days to skill for?" 😂😂😂
Trust in the Rust n ducktape :)
Winmatar!!
load hail never fail
@@captainbenzie
Returning player with 11mill sp alpha pilot with mostly 4s in all relevant fitting and gunnery/missile. I've got a 300 DPS 32k ehp caracal fitted wondering how to use it, is T1 abyssal the answer?
T1 Abyssals are a good choice for the Caracal, yes!
Has this fit been nerfd because I do not have enough power to use the 5MN compact microwarpdrive
Nope. Check your skills: Powergrid Management, Weapons Upgrades, and Advanced Weapons Upgrades
Great video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it 🚀
Brother no, abisol is not it lol love your content, first time I've heard you say this word haha
Speaking of the blue prints, I have looted 2 of them, but can not sell on market. how do you go about selling them?
Contracts
@@captainbenzie Thank You
I donno if it's because I did this on a Punisher, which is a Frigate, but I had a lot more targets than that to take down on the first gate! Which, unfortunately, caused me to blow up.
Might have been using Calm instead of Tranquil?
Def used calm. Highest I've seen in one system is 3 for tranquil. Calm I've seen 6.
It won't let me activate a filament solo without starting a fleet?
Correct. Right click your own name and Fleet With. You don't need another player, just the fleet.
i just built same ship as you but my microwarpdrive wont work as i dont have enough CPU power hows that possible?>
Make sure you have CPU Management fully upgraded and check Navigation and other fitting skills.
About 30 seconds faster than my Worm.
Okay, round 2 was about a full minute faster...
And cheaper 😉
I'm giving up now in Deadspace and Calm Gamma Filament. I have tried 3 times with an Algos and 5 Hobgoblin 2 drones. But every time I get killed in the first room.
Can it do T1 Abyssal? Is it only for Electric ? Can it do Darks ? T0 and T1
I wouldn't bother with darks due to the turret penalties. It can do T1, but it's slow and risky, and works out worse than just doing multiple T0s in the same time.
Man I spent several minutes looking for 200mm Howitzer Artillary IIs.... 😅
just copyed all u did and earned like 1,5kk in about 5min... im new so i took it slower. TY
Glad to help and hope you enjoy!
can we use this fit for T1 elec
You CAN but it struggles against certain rooms and the speed it does T0s means you actually earn more in those.
Actually considering the time between filaments, warp time and the cost of the filaments took about 7.5/8 minutes for 2.500.000 isk, not much
That's one site though. Take a load of Filaments and run a load back to back
what do you do when 3 frigates get close range and you do 0 damage?
You slingshot, change your heading 90°, then almost immediately flip 180°, it pushes their circular orbit into an ellipse.
@@captainbenzie i ran this build until i got webbed and warp disrupted by 3 rat frigates, it was good until it's not so i just run things with no minimum range now
can you do a alpha account abyssal deadspace builds?
Plenty of them already in the Abyssal Deadspace playlist 😊
Why can I only get 6 of the 7 howitzers to be stable on line? Everything else is fine.
You may need to up your PG skills. Powergrid Management and Weapons Upgrades.
Does eve online have a crazy word censor like EE? The word refund is censored in echoes. So is the number 89.
Lmao no censor at all
So can this do T1 electrical?
Yes. Though you're better running multiple T0s of anything. They're less loot, but by time you account for speed and risk, it's FAR more profitable.
Just went to do this but made the mistake of trying to do a combat site I was passing on the way by to pick up filaments.. died in under 60 seconds.. I can say I'm awful at this game lol
It takes time, don't worry 😅
i simulated this and i only get 195dps. what skills do you need to get 297dps
Same ammo? I'm Small Artillery Specialisation 4
@@captainbenzie i'm lvl 2. also training rapid fire 3 surgical strike 3. i'm at 216 dps now
@@martym2908 ah yes, I was at 4 on each of those too.
could this work with t1 280mm howitzer?
mostly for these two because im alpha
I'm alpha and can not put the fs9 Power Grid missing, from where can i recover Power Grid, m'y engenering is alpha max.
Dps 1921 is missing les than 2 Power Grid if i well remenber.
Can you train Weapons Upgrades any higher? Otherwise, a PG implant may help.
OK tanks i'm going to check.
hmmm this is not working at all for me; I have a character with all fives on this ship, and I can't survive a calm electrical. It was a Drekavac that got me in the second room; he stopped taking any damage from me, then he broke my tank super fast. Also, there were four enemies in the first room and four in the second. Yeah, I know, I suck...
It's not that you suck, it's that this ship is designed to speeding Tranquils, not Calms 😉
you can do the same in a Corax for like 3-4m. spending 20m to do tranquils is CRAZY. Is this fit able to do Calms? anyone tested it?
I didn't say this was the best or the cheapest. The Corax that you've mentioned in numerous of my comments is cheaper, yes. You can also use a Thrasher cheaper. That's not the point of the video 😉
@@captainbenzie i insinuated that you did. Regardless, spending near 7 times the amount of ISK to shave a 2 minutes off an abyss run is impractical. For 20m you can slap something together to run T1's instead and make even more ISK.
Point being, i don't understand the point of this build. People coming to these videos tend to be newbros that are broke, so they watch the vid, see the price and stay lost on what to do to get that amount of ISK in the first place, hence my comments.
caiche? caaaache? :D
Many different pronunciations
Can u get devoted knight in t0?? If u can u die no chance to survive with thiss fit
Afaik no
with my skills i am using the navy thrasher an it gets an extra low slot for a tracking computer
the full set up is less then 30 mill
Thrasher Fleet Issue is a lot more expensive and doesn't add any Alpha at all (in fact, the TFI has LESS alpha since it has the same +5% damage bonus, but on six turrets, rather than 7)
Yes, it has rate of fire bonuses, which THEORETICALLY math higher (6 turrets + 25% +25% = 9.375 turrets, compared to 7 turrets + 25% = 8.75 turrets) but since we're aiming for alpha damage, not straight up DPS, and with the lower cycle time of artillery, you end up often being slower (lower alpha plus higher rate of fire often equates to more shots fired) and more ammo used, alongside a more expensive ship.
The TFI is a great ship, but I really feel it's bonuses shout for Autocannons and magnified DPS rather than raw alpha.
That said, I'm glad you're enjoying the ship and flying what you enjoy is 100% more important than flying "the best"! 😊
It is such a little thing but you say it so often that I have to point out.... In American and British English, "cache" sounds the same as "cash" LOL
You only had 1 enemy in each room. Is that normal?
how many Isk you can do in 1 hours.
Cay - sh ???????? its prounounced "Cash" :D
Lots of different pronunciations based on region and first language
@@captainbenzie I know there are always pronunciation differences, but I checked in multiple languages, its always been "Cash" Not a big deal, It just made me twitch xD
OKay so relatively new to these. why form a fleet and why set it to 2 destroyers? and why 2 filaments?
Check my video on everything you need to know about Abyssals!
In short, Abyssals are meant for either:
1 Cruiser
2 Destroyers
3 Frigates
If you are going in Destroyers or Frigates, you MUST be in a fleet, and use the required number of filaments (two or three) even if doing it solo. Using multiple filaments does increase the loot (double or triple) so soloing can be very lucrative.
@captainbenzie Thanks for explaining, I did my first tranquil electric T0 last night. With a punisher build, honestly it was so easy. I'm a mimitaur main so I'm going to look at what ships I can comfortably do a T2 or 3
@@trueinstinctt2698 Solo T2 or T3 is going to be Cruiser for Minmatar, especially the Vagabond or Muninn, which will both go up to T5 with the right fit and boosters
@@captainbenzie Sounds good, I will have to look more into and see if I can fit one of these out correctly.
i have - 4 power please list the name of exact skills in need to get (i am an alpha)
Powergrid Management, CPU Management, Weapons Upgrades
and gyrostabilizer 1s
Hey, you have a mistake in the title of this video: "deadpspaces"
Omg lol fixing this now
The additional "P" is now gone! 😂
13m an hour? well if you don't have to pay for the filaments and ammo used :P
Yeah but since those change in cost and you can always get them yourself means I can't account for that.
You are saying cache wrong. It should sound like cash.
Tell me you know what accents and dialects are? Still, if this was the only thing wrong with the video, I'll take it 😊
Ehm, not to be picky but the video kinda disproves the "alpha over DPS" theory. You almost never single-shotted a ship, and it worked only half the times on caches. You could have fitted the rig for RoF instead of damage, making the runs at bit faster.
I'm not arguing the fit, it's good. I'm not saying use AC, artillery is fine. I'm just saying the video doesn't showcase volley damage much.
Fair point! The main intent was just to showcase a fast fit for T0s - and this does run faster than an AC version. But thank you for your feedback!
does anyone know if this can do t2 electric
T2 lmao no. WAAAAAY too hard. It can just squeeze a T1. Better to run T0s at speed.
@@captainbenzie dam i meant t1 thx tho
Your fit is *overkill*
My catalyst in noob 2ndary account got 466 alpha and 163dps. 1 shield booster, no shield extender and 2heats (and a co-processor in low to amke it work)
long story short: it was laughable easy.... ~ at times i got a shield dmg down to 70% but by then the enemy already was on fire. I didnt stop my time but it was like 4 minutes or so
(my fit inkl ship costs 4.8m btw)
This one is fairly easy especially with a friend. we yielded 1.72m which is fair for a few minutes :)
It's not meant to be a serious fit, as I explain in the first minute or so, it's just to see how fast we can do it.
@@captainbenzie I picked up on your subtle humor once i watched a few more videos of yours. Yes, you sorta joke at 0:45, but it comes off (like many do) as a recommendation. The Thrasher doesn't doo that well in lvl2 since its rather fragile and short on cap. At least that's my experience. I will try the Rapture. My old luv.
How much isk do you get each run? I do T4s on farm in Gila and make 100-130mil/hr. No way this comes close…what’s the point of this? Lol
"what's the point of this"?
Check the price of the Gila and the SP required to run it, then check this one.
Oh, and what if I don't have Caldari/Gallente skills and don't want them?
I could argue I make 200m ISK/hr in a Gila running C3 sites so what's the point in T4 Abyssals?
If you're doing better than this fit can, awesome! Not everyone can and my content is not geared around "being the best", it's about "having fun" 😉
Great video, then you pronounced CACHE /kaSH/ incorrectly like 30 times.
Cool, thanks!
extender and booster? DISGUSTING!
Yeah, I know, mixing active and passive 😅
Why do you say abyssal like that? 😂🤣
Like what?
Like aBB is all
@@Chazie_ different accents and ways, I guess. It's derived from the word abyss, so it's that with an "al" on the end where I'm from.
it does not give me 99.1 in power grid
buy cheap power implant, and plug in
"abasol dead space" lol.
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