Just to clarify the rule of 6 - it will always be a number unless the system core is one away. Meaning if you had found a defensive node, the system core would have been in one of the surrounding 6 nodes.
Just recently got back into Eve after being MIA for 2+ years. Bought myself an astero and Ive been having a blast with these sites. Your video helped me a lot getting back into the swing of things. Cheers!
Oh damn I remember you from eve echoes days back in 2019-2020. Haven't played EO since then. Just launched it again for the first time tonight, glad to see you're making content for EO now. Your content was always top notch, and I look forward to you being my guide... Since I've completely forgotten how to play lmao. I do remember relic jacking was my thing though. Glad to still have a couple of asteros kicking about!
Welcome back to New Eden! I hope that I can help and that you enjoy your time in New Eden! In the description there's a link that will get you 1m SP even on an active account, and if you do fancy it, Catskull is recruiting!
Haha absolutely my favourite thing about the game, exploring - whether it's hacking, gas huffing, or running Anomalies in a wormhole. Not technically exploring, but I love Abyssals for that same "unknown" factor and consider it to be "aggressively exploring Triglavian space" haha
Lol 2 days ago I died 3x jumping into the wrong ones before a kind sole shared a link to a site listing the safe and unsafe And now today I have been out scanning and got 28mil. In loot in 1-2 hrs of scanning jumping through wormholes and ending up in amarr space 😅 And now with this video it helps clarify even more!!! Thanks o7
Hey benzie, returning player here. Glad to see you back in EO instead of EE. I have been trying for 10 hours straight, but i cant seem to find any "safe" relic and data sites through the wormholes im going through. They're all "leads to unknown parts of space" WH, but all i could find 100% of the time is "Forgotten" and "Unsecured" sites. I dont know if im just super unlucky or not.
Super unlucky, sadly. They're only in C1, C2, and C3 (unknown parts of space, NOT dangerous unknown or deadly unknown). We had a system next to us yesterday with literally 9 safe sites. They are there, just sometimes you get unlucky! Keep trying!
@@captainbenzie I took another 2 hours of research and actually learned to look at the wormholes I find now and determine if they're C1 or C2 or C3 xD I had to go to that extent. Also, will you make a guide on using needlejacks and pochven filaments for exploring? :D
Ive been at this for 6 hours now, same deal. I always check the WH for it being C3 max every time, but they are ALWAYS Forgotten or Unsecured. Super bummed for spending this much time on it and getting absolutely zero for the effort.
@@larsthomasen5728 i gave up on that and used filaments to get to lowsec and back. Lowsec sites for me are a much better place. But you have to be stealthy and make good use of safe spots.
thanks for a helpful video on how to do a relic site. Sadly I wasted my time with a 30 minute video elsewhere that was recommended but wasted my time. by the time I watched yours someone else took it.
Really informative video Captain o7 It's my favourite way to play the game as well and I love the "down the rabbit hole" feeling of being 5+ wormholes deep seeing where they go 😁
@@DaviCarleial Great question. First time in I got stuck and two other players had to help me warp out of there. Came back out 47 jumps from home station. Now I’m scared of approaching the wh
Im enjoying exploration. I feel like i have found my area of eve. What I dont enjoy is having to sell everything afterwards. Think I'll just keep hoarding until i can be bothered moving everything to Jita.
Great video! I went exploring in a wormhole for the first time today and spent 1h 30m scanning down ~15 ghost sites and a couple gas sites, nothing I could use though as I am pretty new... Are the vanilla sites so rare in wormhole space or did I just beat the odds?
Not sure if you were doing this intentionally just to show the mechanic, but clicking the white dots to look for powerups is suboptimal technique until they're your last resort to avoid failing. Powerups have diminishign returns and it's a needless risk of hitting antivirus or restoration that will make you fail more often over time.
Wrenches allow the health to be increased by 5-10 hp for three turns. Shields protect the virus from being attacked when clicked on a defense node for two attempts.
Ok, yes ghost sites are risky but it is a manageable risk if you know what you're doing. Don't fail the hack, and don't stay longer than the 2 minute timer upon warp in and you're good. Also, unlikely anyone will try to attack you one you're hacking because they will blow up too. Generally just go for one differently named container. If you like pushing the envelope you can manage to hack 2 if you're quick and efficient with your hacking, and then warp the heck outta there. It's risk vs reward and it's exciting.
This is way late but hopefully someone will answer. The skills Archaeology and Hacking increase the coherence (health) but I can't find out what increases my strength. You have 40 strength in this and I only have 25 - In the compare the max attack from the analyzer was 30, so what else increases the strength?
great video. Am I right in thinking that, the moment you enter the space, there is a timer that ticks down (in your case when you de-cloak) before rats spawn and blow up the boxes? I have another question. I tried this out in high sec, found a relic site. I warped to it and someone else was there already and the rats had spawned. I died within 3 seconds. any way to avoid this?
This is the one I use: wiki.signalcartel.space/Public:Signal_Cartel_Overview_Pack I know you spoke to us in Discord but posting publicly in case anyone else is wondering.
do you know what is best sec for new scanners and hackers ? i searched highsec system but cant find that much ruined ones and almost got killed by a player in nullsec. Also get you give me a good rig for heron ? and why no drones or cannons , shouldnt i have them if rats attack ?
Hisec is best for newer players as they're easier sites, but if you can scan and hack advanced sites, I think wormholes can be a really good way to go if you're careful. Getting attacked by other players is part of the exploration life. I've done videos on how to survive, and a full guide on how to fit ANY exploration ship! You want to look for sites called "Ruined/Decayed/Crumbling" or "Central/Local/Regional", followed by a pirate type. Such as a "Ruined Angel Crystal Quarry" or "Central Guristas Sparking Transmitter". These are safe sites that do not have any rats.
i wanted to try this out, went to several null sec systems, every single one had either combat or ore sites, none had relic sites, how far i have to go to find them? Edit: so i went into random WH in nullsec, then wen through multipe WH's inside, found several sites but they was guarded, i made it out of WH into NS in some random location 40jumps from my home, on the way back i found multiple unguarded data sites (and 0 relic sites) , made some isk and made it safe to home. it was quite amazing adventure, but it took long time, and the profit was not that big to make a living out of it ;d maybe i was in wrong sector or something
Scanning the containers and leaving them alone if they're not worthy (cherry picking) is not the best advise. As long as the site is not finished, no new similar site will respawn in the same constellation until the semi-finished site disappears after a couple of days. If everyone starts doing this, then it'll be increasingly difficult to find fresh sites. If you insist on scanning and find out the can is not worthy, the best you can do is start the minigame twice and just close the window, so the can explodes.
@@captainbenzie Every comment is based on experience, isnt't it? I've been living in border null since 2009 and when i'm too bored to station spin, i wait cloaked inside sites waiting for relic hunters. Once the minigame starts, decloak, point and kill. So, i have seen cherry picked sites exist for 40 hours sometimes. Server glitch? Maybe. My point is that cherry picking is bad etiquette. When a hunter picks only the good stuff, the next one only loses his time (and sometimes his ship 😁).
I enjoy it all but to be honest I get so sick of finally finding a cache and it's empty or only finding wormholes that have too high level stuff to scan inside them. I have terrible luck amd make so little isk in the time I do make some I could've made more doing other stuff
Once you have the skills to 3, you can do all of the Safe sites listed in this video. And whilst ISK is important, you need to make sure you don't let the game become a grind. Enjoy it and have fun too!
should you update this video, you might want to put in some other stuff. if you travel to a low sec area and then jump through a WH in a WH, making sure it goes nowhere, there will never be anyone. there are also usually a ton of data/relic sites, i usually will find at least 2 per system, but have gotten like 4 worth a shot, just keep checking local chat to make sure no one is there
@@giuseppeviscomi7033 I'm proud of my time with the cartel - I learned so much, everyone was so friendly and helpful. I was genuinely sad to leave, but having fun setting up our own thing. SC and EVE Scout are both blue to us, so you'll never need to worry about Catskull guns aiming your way 😊
@@captainbenziesorry,i meant to say i hacked them and there was nothing inside,i think all the sites were fresh so to say,nobody else were there before me.
Find a corporation in one of the big alliances that reside in null sec. The systems controlled by your alliance are safer for you, but still have to be careful. In null sec I average about 50 mil hour with data and relic sites
Scanning isn't opening, so could there be something there? Could it be that it's not about what's worth your time, but about the amount of time you have to open containers before things go sideways? Maybe the timers activate on scanning too, IDK.
@@captainbenzie i feel its cheaper to run the tech 1s and a mobile depot. The t1s are not that bad to run sites with tbh. I have a fantastic jackdaw fit that can comfortably run 4 of 10s (Guristas) Edit: I have full hydra set with rockets. The javelins reach about 36km. Its a particularly good fit.
@@loboseesthings6269 U dont even need T3C to run those, u can use a T3D or even a Navy issue Cruiser for the 4/10 Guristas. Focus fire the enemy cruisers as mutch as possable and the site is a cake walk. The frigates can pretty mutch be ignored in the main room as there dmg is like shotting bb guns against a wall and even just a little momentum will make them a non threat. The cruisers are the only dmg dealers in that site.
15:15 well fuck me an call me Susan - it never even occurred to be that you can scan a container with a cargo scanner to decide if its even worth scanning.........
I was running on the assumption that anyone actively looking for a guide on the topic would be aware of the topics existence and have a desire to do the thing. I'm also running on the assumption that you've spent more than 30 mins in the game and have done the Career Agents (in this case, Explorer) otherwise I'd have to make this an hour long video.
Lmao, or you may miss the point and maybe hacking isn't for you. It's a great little minigame once you understand it, it's an excellent little puzzle. And yes, it's designed to take time. That's when you're most vulnerable. Rather than claiming it's poorly designed (it's not) it's okay to just admit that it's not for you 🤷♂️
Just to clarify the rule of 6 - it will always be a number unless the system core is one away. Meaning if you had found a defensive node, the system core would have been in one of the surrounding 6 nodes.
Explained better, thank you!!
after 4 years in Eve, finally understood that mini game, never finished a hacking video before .. Love your style of explaining things. thx a lot.
Glad I could help!
Here I am watching a one year old Video trying to figure out the basics and now i got 2 more videos. Atleast this channel is a one stop shop!
Happy to help! EVEs a 21 year old game, content doesn't shift much, so older videos are still up to date!
Just recently got back into Eve after being MIA for 2+ years. Bought myself an astero and Ive been having a blast with these sites. Your video helped me a lot getting back into the swing of things. Cheers!
Glad you enjoy it!
Oh damn I remember you from eve echoes days back in 2019-2020. Haven't played EO since then. Just launched it again for the first time tonight, glad to see you're making content for EO now.
Your content was always top notch, and I look forward to you being my guide... Since I've completely forgotten how to play lmao. I do remember relic jacking was my thing though. Glad to still have a couple of asteros kicking about!
Welcome back to New Eden! I hope that I can help and that you enjoy your time in New Eden!
In the description there's a link that will get you 1m SP even on an active account, and if you do fancy it, Catskull is recruiting!
Outstanding walk-through! Love your content. Great point with remembering the 3 locational references and the 3 decaying statuses.
Thank you!!
I really enjoy the hacking / exploration game play as well. Glad to know I'm not the only weirdo who went 5 of 5 in all 7 scanning skills.
Haha absolutely my favourite thing about the game, exploring - whether it's hacking, gas huffing, or running Anomalies in a wormhole. Not technically exploring, but I love Abyssals for that same "unknown" factor and consider it to be "aggressively exploring Triglavian space" haha
Awesome video Captain. Just got back into EVE and this is exactly the type of content I need to keep me back! Keep it up, great work as always.
Welcome back!
Only 116 likes??? This deserves WAY more. Keep up the great and super helpful content!
I appreciate that! Glad it was helpful and I hope you continue to enjoy my content!
Lol 2 days ago I died 3x jumping into the wrong ones before a kind sole shared a link to a site listing the safe and unsafe
And now today I have been out scanning and got 28mil. In loot in 1-2 hrs of scanning jumping through wormholes and ending up in amarr space 😅
And now with this video it helps clarify even more!!! Thanks o7
Happy to help!!
You will be either making a lot of isk, running away for your life or stuck in drone space for 20 min
Welcome to the life of an explorer!!
Hey benzie, returning player here. Glad to see you back in EO instead of EE. I have been trying for 10 hours straight, but i cant seem to find any "safe" relic and data sites through the wormholes im going through. They're all "leads to unknown parts of space" WH, but all i could find 100% of the time is "Forgotten" and "Unsecured" sites. I dont know if im just super unlucky or not.
Super unlucky, sadly. They're only in C1, C2, and C3 (unknown parts of space, NOT dangerous unknown or deadly unknown). We had a system next to us yesterday with literally 9 safe sites. They are there, just sometimes you get unlucky! Keep trying!
@@captainbenzie I took another 2 hours of research and actually learned to look at the wormholes I find now and determine if they're C1 or C2 or C3 xD I had to go to that extent. Also, will you make a guide on using needlejacks and pochven filaments for exploring? :D
Ive been at this for 6 hours now, same deal. I always check the WH for it being C3 max every time, but they are ALWAYS Forgotten or Unsecured. Super bummed for spending this much time on it and getting absolutely zero for the effort.
@@larsthomasen5728 i gave up on that and used filaments to get to lowsec and back. Lowsec sites for me are a much better place. But you have to be stealthy and make good use of safe spots.
thanks for a helpful video on how to do a relic site. Sadly I wasted my time with a 30 minute video elsewhere that was recommended but wasted my time. by the time I watched yours someone else took it.
Really informative video Captain o7
It's my favourite way to play the game as well and I love the "down the rabbit hole" feeling of being 5+ wormholes deep seeing where they go 😁
Couldn't agree more and glad you enjoyed the video!!
How do you go back to your initial system after going in the wormholes?
@@DaviCarleial Great question. First time in I got stuck and two other players had to help me warp out of there. Came back out 47 jumps from home station.
Now I’m scared of approaching the wh
Love the content sir.
It's good to see you happy about content.
Glad you enjoy it and yeah, it's nice to be positive again ☺️
Im enjoying exploration. I feel like i have found my area of eve. What I dont enjoy is having to sell everything afterwards. Think I'll just keep hoarding until i can be bothered moving everything to Jita.
That's EXACTLY why I trained Hauler skills right after Exploration to fly a Prowler 😂
Great video! I went exploring in a wormhole for the first time today and spent 1h 30m scanning down ~15 ghost sites and a couple gas sites, nothing I could use though as I am pretty new... Are the vanilla sites so rare in wormhole space or did I just beat the odds?
You got pretty lucky! You'll normally find Central and Ruined sites more than those.
Not sure if you were doing this intentionally just to show the mechanic, but clicking the white dots to look for powerups is suboptimal technique until they're your last resort to avoid failing. Powerups have diminishign returns and it's a needless risk of hitting antivirus or restoration that will make you fail more often over time.
Yup, showing the mechanics
Great video Thank you for your work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wrenches allow the health to be increased by 5-10 hp for three turns. Shields protect the virus from being attacked when clicked on a defense node for two attempts.
Thx for the video.
But, what u do when have enemies in the relic/data site spot?
Ok, yes ghost sites are risky but it is a manageable risk if you know what you're doing. Don't fail the hack, and don't stay longer than the 2 minute timer upon warp in and you're good. Also, unlikely anyone will try to attack you one you're hacking because they will blow up too. Generally just go for one differently named container. If you like pushing the envelope you can manage to hack 2 if you're quick and efficient with your hacking, and then warp the heck outta there. It's risk vs reward and it's exciting.
I love Ghost Sites! They're just so rare to find!!
Has anything changed since this video was made? Are the "vanilla" sites still the only safe ones?
Still the same
This is way late but hopefully someone will answer. The skills Archaeology and Hacking increase the coherence (health) but I can't find out what increases my strength. You have 40 strength in this and I only have 25 - In the compare the max attack from the analyzer was 30, so what else increases the strength?
The ship itself applies bonuses
I am new to Eve online and I have a question How do i get my right-side menu bar back ? the one that says Travel , explore , Mining Ect
great video. Am I right in thinking that, the moment you enter the space, there is a timer that ticks down (in your case when you de-cloak) before rats spawn and blow up the boxes? I have another question. I tried this out in high sec, found a relic site. I warped to it and someone else was there already and the rats had spawned. I died within 3 seconds. any way to avoid this?
Be cautious when warping to sites. I did a video on setting up perches.
Where can I get that overview settings? I´m having troubles by targeting a ruined relic site in NULLSEC, even still being 100 meters away from it :(
This is the one I use: wiki.signalcartel.space/Public:Signal_Cartel_Overview_Pack
I know you spoke to us in Discord but posting publicly in case anyone else is wondering.
question when you attack virus node do you repeatedly click it to kill or do you click once if not die click again etc?
Once and then again
do you know what is best sec for new scanners and hackers ? i searched highsec system but cant find that much ruined ones and almost got killed by a player in nullsec. Also get you give me a good rig for heron ? and why no drones or cannons , shouldnt i have them if rats attack ?
Hisec is best for newer players as they're easier sites, but if you can scan and hack advanced sites, I think wormholes can be a really good way to go if you're careful.
Getting attacked by other players is part of the exploration life. I've done videos on how to survive, and a full guide on how to fit ANY exploration ship!
You want to look for sites called "Ruined/Decayed/Crumbling" or "Central/Local/Regional", followed by a pirate type. Such as a "Ruined Angel Crystal Quarry" or "Central Guristas Sparking Transmitter". These are safe sites that do not have any rats.
i wanted to try this out, went to several null sec systems, every single one had either combat or ore sites, none had relic sites, how far i have to go to find them?
Edit: so i went into random WH in nullsec, then wen through multipe WH's inside, found several sites but they was guarded, i made it out of WH into NS in some random location 40jumps from my home, on the way back i found multiple unguarded data sites (and 0 relic sites) , made some isk and made it safe to home. it was quite amazing adventure, but it took long time, and the profit was not that big to make a living out of it ;d maybe i was in wrong sector or something
Scanning the containers and leaving them alone if they're not worthy (cherry picking) is not the best advise.
As long as the site is not finished, no new similar site will respawn in the same constellation until the semi-finished site disappears after a couple of days. If everyone starts doing this, then it'll be increasingly difficult to find fresh sites.
If you insist on scanning and find out the can is not worthy, the best you can do is start the minigame twice and just close the window, so the can explodes.
This is not true. Once warped to, an unfinished site despawns in a matter of hours, not days.
@@captainbenzie Every comment is based on experience, isnt't it? I've been living in border null since 2009 and when i'm too bored to station spin, i wait cloaked inside sites waiting for relic hunters. Once the minigame starts, decloak, point and kill.
So, i have seen cherry picked sites exist for 40 hours sometimes. Server glitch? Maybe. My point is that cherry picking is bad etiquette. When a hunter picks only the good stuff, the next one only loses his time (and sometimes his ship 😁).
@@paulniotis6755 then that's because you're sitting in the site and it won't despawn with folks inside.
6 hours in of scanning, I have still yet to find Relic and data sites >.
Move out of Hisec. They're in very high demand there so you won't find many. Lowsec, quiet null, and wormholes are your best bets.
Is it possible to hack wormhole sites with lvl 3 hacking and archaeology skills?
They're the same difficulty as Nullsec. Yes, but it's trickier. May want to rig for Extra hacking 😊
@@captainbenzie Thanks for the reply, honestly didn't expect one on a year old video :D
@@AberrantDroid-je6om I try to keep in contact with my community as much as possiblr
I enjoy it all but to be honest I get so sick of finally finding a cache and it's empty or only finding wormholes that have too high level stuff to scan inside them. I have terrible luck amd make so little isk in the time I do make some I could've made more doing other stuff
Once you have the skills to 3, you can do all of the Safe sites listed in this video. And whilst ISK is important, you need to make sure you don't let the game become a grind. Enjoy it and have fun too!
should you update this video, you might want to put in some other stuff. if you travel to a low sec area and then jump through a WH in a WH, making sure it goes nowhere, there will never be anyone. there are also usually a ton of data/relic sites, i usually will find at least 2 per system, but have gotten like 4
worth a shot, just keep checking local chat to make sure no one is there
It's clear that you've been a Signaleer from The Cartel! - Strelnikova - Signal Cartel
I take that as a big compliment, thank you! 😂
@@captainbenzie sure it is!
@@giuseppeviscomi7033 I'm proud of my time with the cartel - I learned so much, everyone was so friendly and helpful. I was genuinely sad to leave, but having fun setting up our own thing.
SC and EVE Scout are both blue to us, so you'll never need to worry about Catskull guns aiming your way 😊
@@captainbenzie We will meet eventually in wormholes!
Ive scanned and completed 15 data and relic sites in hisec,and got 6 mil in loot :(
About half the cans were outright empty,is this normal?
Sounds like you were following another player who cherry picked their sites; that said, Hisec isn't overly lucrative.
@@captainbenziesorry,i meant to say i hacked them and there was nothing inside,i think all the sites were fresh so to say,nobody else were there before me.
Find a corporation in one of the big alliances that reside in null sec. The systems controlled by your alliance are safer for you, but still have to be careful. In null sec I average about 50 mil hour with data and relic sites
Is the rule of 6 always true?
Yes
Scanning isn't opening, so could there be something there? Could it be that it's not about what's worth your time, but about the amount of time you have to open containers before things go sideways? Maybe the timers activate on scanning too, IDK.
There are no timers in a standard hacking site. Containers disappear if they're failed twice, and the site despawns after a few hours, that's it.
@@captainbenzie But AFAIK there are such sites and can you then scan without triggering them?
@@QualeQualeson entering the site is the trigger on any site, not scanning it
@@captainbenzie Aha. TY
@@captainbenzie But scanning still faster than hacking no?
Do you still play eve online Cap
I'm putting out a new EVE Online video every day at 1700 UTC, Monday to Friday 😉
The integrated mods go for 170 mill qnd 370 mil in jita (JUNE 22 2023)
Yup, they're expensive little beasts
@@captainbenzie i feel its cheaper to run the tech 1s and a mobile depot. The t1s are not that bad to run sites with tbh. I have a fantastic jackdaw fit that can comfortably run 4 of 10s (Guristas)
Edit: I have full hydra set with rockets. The javelins reach about 36km. Its a particularly good fit.
@@loboseesthings6269 U dont even need T3C to run those, u can use a T3D or even a Navy issue Cruiser for the 4/10 Guristas. Focus fire the enemy cruisers as mutch as possable and the site is a cake walk. The frigates can pretty mutch be ignored in the main room as there dmg is like shotting bb guns against a wall and even just a little momentum will make them a non threat. The cruisers are the only dmg dealers in that site.
15:15 well fuck me an call me Susan - it never even occurred to be that you can scan a container with a cargo scanner to decide if its even worth scanning.........
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good vid thx
Glad it helped!
Why don't you show use that chill process from the undocking to you finding a relic site to going in ang hacking it all solo.
Because it's a hacking guide, not a scanning guide 😅
@@captainbenzie Ok, do you have a scanning video from the start of this easy relaxing process?
My Heron was blown up hacking in a high sec relic site...no idea why...
Probably not a safe site (Local, Crumbling etc) but what's called a Ghost Site where the containers can explode.
Every data site I have found in wormhole space is guarded by rats and if I decloak to try to hack I get blown away
Those aren't the safe sites I'm talking about. Look for ones called "Ruined" or "Central". The Unsecured or Forgotten sites are basically combat sites
this did nothing to talk about what hacking is
I was running on the assumption that anyone actively looking for a guide on the topic would be aware of the topics existence and have a desire to do the thing. I'm also running on the assumption that you've spent more than 30 mins in the game and have done the Career Agents (in this case, Explorer) otherwise I'd have to make this an hour long video.
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i wasted all of my money on the equipment for this and probes to find out that i need more equipment. God damnit i hate this game
Takes some getting used to. You'll get there, keep at it! I've done a video on how to fit any explorer that may help?
You have way too many ads
I don't set that btw.
Poorly designed mini game, takes too long to complete. wtf is ccp doing lol
Lmao, or you may miss the point and maybe hacking isn't for you. It's a great little minigame once you understand it, it's an excellent little puzzle. And yes, it's designed to take time. That's when you're most vulnerable.
Rather than claiming it's poorly designed (it's not) it's okay to just admit that it's not for you 🤷♂️