Doesn’t the swash plate push the plunger and spring up and down and the plunger pushes the cartilage? Actual swash plate doesn’t come directly into contact with the cartridge when you tattoo. Swash plate pushes little plastic part then that plastic part pushes the actual cartilage. Mechanical drag of that mechanism should be measured against force put out by carriage needle. Mast flip style mechanism hits even harder than both of these
I guess I could have explained better, all I'm trying to explain here is that the will doesn't grind up and down the push rods as some people claimed. Also this swash played is direct to the cartridge in some tiny machines. This system is usually pretty damn stable and very soft hitting. I never said this was a hard hit... as it will lever be. Perhaps with 4.2mm stroke and above on a direct system. What I'm trying to say is, it takes less force from the motor to travel a whe stroke with the swash wheel than the dire t system.
We are all different cause I absolutely hate "drunkin wheel" machines.....I've tried several from cheap to high dollar and im just a direct drive guy hands down just better in my opinion.but every artist is different and we all do different styles of work as well.
Right on, most motors are rated from 5000 to 6000 hours of work. I have a bunch of replacement motors but all my Chinese machines seem to hold up pretty well. I don’t like this swash wheel system just because it’s way heavier at the top than other direct drive systems. But a bunch of people claimed this system will brake cartridges and waste the swash wheel as it scrapes. But as it shows in the video, it doesn’t .
@@lanetadiarionetodeunscratc9439 I haven’t had not carts broken but it did jus barely give out the dam can wheel but it jus needed to be tightened back onto motor but in all I love the machine
Thank you brother for that info. I really needed this because I’m in the process of purchasing a tattoo pen for for my daughter and didn’t know el what wheel I should choose from. What about the eccentric wheel type motor?
They are all good. I use mostly direct drive, But I before I read something about this system tearing cartridges apart, and that is impossible. That's all... go with what feels good
Adjust in what way Kenedy? Like change the stroke? You can certainly machine mill at a certain angle. Yet this systemas aren't very popular because of the top weight.
@@lanetadiarionetodeunscratc9439 yo hago blackwork pero no entiendo mucho de máquinas. Si pudieras asesorarme de qué sistema me vendría mejor sería de ayuda. Gracias
@@albertoocampo2596 definitivamente te conviene mejor un direct drive, el golpe es más duro aunque el motor sufre más. Igual no necesitas tanta revolución en el motor, pero si por lo menos un stroke de 4mm para facilitar penetration. O en dado caso los sistemas de bobinas y/o system as de flejes como las Dan Kubin, hay varias copias chinas muy bunas. O en dado caso el sistema tipo Neuma4, el cual también los chinos lo copian. Eso para tener una retracción de la aguja rápida y mejor pigmentación. Ez tattoo tiene ambas copias y de muy buena calidad.
@@albertoocampo2596 en si si haces mucho sombra, cualquier máquina es buena, si haces mucho relleno en el blackwork, si corresponde lo del comentario previo.
Doesn’t the swash plate push the plunger and spring up and down and the plunger pushes the cartilage? Actual swash plate doesn’t come directly into contact with the cartridge when you tattoo. Swash plate pushes little plastic part then that plastic part pushes the actual cartilage. Mechanical drag of that mechanism should be measured against force put out by carriage needle. Mast flip style mechanism hits even harder than both of these
Im glad you chimed in on this.....I was watching this and thinking to myself "that's not how these machines work" there is a spring and plastic pin that the "drunkin wheel" hits that then pushes the cart.....
THIS WAS SO COOL THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS!!! and your art is sick love it!
Thank you for your comment Des🤟🏾
O great thanks for sharing it it give me a better perspective of what should I buy
Dude! That’s exactly what I needed to see! I was undecided about the CNC cannibal flowerdog but after your video, I’m sold! Gonna order one now! 😎
Right in brother.... I got this one for free, but I gotta say it’s a beautiful machine....
break it down homie that was POWERFUL. I THOUGHT IT CONSTANTLY RIDES OVER THE SLOTS AND BUMPS.
Doesn’t the swash plate push the plunger and spring up and down and the plunger pushes the cartilage? Actual swash plate doesn’t come directly into contact with the cartridge when you tattoo. Swash plate pushes little plastic part then that plastic part pushes the actual cartilage. Mechanical drag of that mechanism should be measured against force put out by carriage needle. Mast flip style mechanism hits even harder than both of these
I guess I could have explained better, all I'm trying to explain here is that the will doesn't grind up and down the push rods as some people claimed. Also this swash played is direct to the cartridge in some tiny machines. This system is usually pretty damn stable and very soft hitting. I never said this was a hard hit... as it will lever be. Perhaps with 4.2mm stroke and above on a direct system. What I'm trying to say is, it takes less force from the motor to travel a whe stroke with the swash wheel than the dire t system.
thanks for doing this!
We are all different cause I absolutely hate "drunkin wheel" machines.....I've tried several from cheap to high dollar and im just a direct drive guy hands down just better in my opinion.but every artist is different and we all do different styles of work as well.
I’ve been running a essence pen for about 2 1/2 years already haven’t had no problem
Right on, most motors are rated from 5000 to 6000 hours of work. I have a bunch of replacement motors but all my Chinese machines seem to hold up pretty well. I don’t like this swash wheel system just because it’s way heavier at the top than other direct drive systems. But a bunch of people claimed this system will brake cartridges and waste the swash wheel as it scrapes. But as it shows in the video, it doesn’t .
@@lanetadiarionetodeunscratc9439 I haven’t had not carts broken but it did jus barely give out the dam can wheel but it jus needed to be tightened back onto motor but in all I love the machine
@@bigrickrivera593 that's badass brother, and its cool tou are still sticking to this system. Most have migrated to direct..
The tube has a different push rod and it’s not pushing the needle cartridge itself that’s why you need to put the top back on
Didn’t quite understand 😅 what tube?
@@lanetadiarionetodeunscratc9439 🤣😂 couldn’t remember the name at the time the motor holder
Great vid mate. Am about to buy a new machine but not sure whether to get a swash (CNC P6) or direct drive (CNC Q2). What you think?
Always go with direct drive
Thank you brother for that info. I really needed this because I’m in the process of purchasing a tattoo pen for for my daughter and didn’t know el what wheel I should choose from. What about the eccentric wheel type motor?
They are all good. I use mostly direct drive, But I before I read something about this system tearing cartridges apart, and that is impossible. That's all... go with what feels good
Direct system is most effective system
Of course it does, or are thinking it remains in the same hole? 😅... It's spinning...
@@cuenta_simulacro4179 didn't quite understand the comment 😅, but if I understood, yeah it remains in the same hole 😊✌🏾
How to adjust cam wheel sir
Adjust in what way Kenedy? Like change the stroke? You can certainly machine mill at a certain angle. Yet this systemas aren't very popular because of the top weight.
Hermano el motor de la pen gira contrario al relog es correcto
No necesariamente, todo depende de cómo está configurado el motor.... algunos giran con el reloj, otros contra.
@@lanetadiarionetodeunscratc9439 gracias amigo esta a sido la mejor respuesta q me an dado eso mismo me dijo un electronico hoy bendiciones hermano
Y cual es mejor?
No existe tal cosa, en gustos se rompen géneros. Definitivamente tiene que ver con el trabajo y desempeño de cada uno.
@@lanetadiarionetodeunscratc9439 yo hago blackwork pero no entiendo mucho de máquinas. Si pudieras asesorarme de qué sistema me vendría mejor sería de ayuda. Gracias
@@albertoocampo2596 definitivamente te conviene mejor un direct drive, el golpe es más duro aunque el motor sufre más. Igual no necesitas tanta revolución en el motor, pero si por lo menos un stroke de 4mm para facilitar penetration. O en dado caso los sistemas de bobinas y/o system as de flejes como las Dan Kubin, hay varias copias chinas muy bunas. O en dado caso el sistema tipo Neuma4, el cual también los chinos lo copian. Eso para tener una retracción de la aguja rápida y mejor pigmentación. Ez tattoo tiene ambas copias y de muy buena calidad.
@@albertoocampo2596 en si si haces mucho sombra, cualquier máquina es buena, si haces mucho relleno en el blackwork, si corresponde lo del comentario previo.
@@lanetadiarionetodeunscratc9439 muchísimas gracias hermano, voy a ir por una direct. 🙏🏻 Eres de mucha ayuda
Bro no entendí ni madres porque está en inglés. 😢 En resumen, cuál es mejor? Las máquinas de corona o las direct drive
Básicamente hacen lo mismo una no es mejor que la otra , sin embargo la de corona es más silencioso
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Doesn’t the swash plate push the plunger and spring up and down and the plunger pushes the cartilage? Actual swash plate doesn’t come directly into contact with the cartridge when you tattoo. Swash plate pushes little plastic part then that plastic part pushes the actual cartilage. Mechanical drag of that mechanism should be measured against force put out by carriage needle. Mast flip style mechanism hits even harder than both of these
Im glad you chimed in on this.....I was watching this and thinking to myself "that's not how these machines work" there is a spring and plastic pin that the "drunkin wheel" hits that then pushes the cart.....
he actually clarifies that in the video, i guess you both missed that part.