The factual basis for that comment would be helpful. Extensive use of that (& similar) the techniques on different species in different circumstances has failed to detect many of the "problems" claimed. Some certainly exist, & the Australian situation is fundamentally different. But what has been clear checking these dogging channels is some apparently successful operators have flawed biased attitudes. Some of these relate to situations personally experienced very differently, suggesting either disinformation of lack of competence. Assuming such information source is gospel when related to emotive issues like poison gains its own reward.
Interesting to see localised eradication projects as opposed to the "sustained control" control pulse's that most seem to adopt. It would be really interesting to compare the effect on non-domestic stock species. The disturbance issues and sequence of methods (& sometimes operators) makes a difference, & getting the last ones can need what works on the spot, even if indelicate. Job done satisfaction though, ends & means. Interesting to see how unfamiliar species (dogs) are dealt with. They were poisoned & shot to effective extinction in NZ relatively quickly, but didn't have the food available in the forest refuge. & I recall an old chap recalling the use of dogs to catch some of the remnants, risky for the dogs.
Just found your channel and subscribed to it. I am a coyote trapper from West Virginia in the United States. I will be watching your videos hope all is well with you all.
Good job lads, you blokes have some of the better vids out there. I'm a local trapper in SE Qld and come straight in behind the baiting and trapping contractors looking for those hard to get rougue dogs, last block the council contractors got 3 dogs in 6 weeks - I started trapping 2 days after they left and got 7 dogs in 10 days same spot, just goes to show the difference by doing it right. Note the high vantage point on each of those dens Keep up the good work gentlemen
Had the chance to evaluate ground hunting both ungulate & possums (NZ) for pest control, & engaged a variety of hunters (all thinking they were the best in the SI) & in one species, recreational hunters. The majority had problems reducing numbers to below the critical threshold that enabled vulnerable species to recover. People & politics & preconceived assertions were the biggest problems. Hunters (particularly managers) are often unwilling to listen, or understand effective control. Many are out of their depth. Some of the worst were those who could get tallies, they were a positive nuisance working eradication (even low density) jobs, many managers could not assimilate that. Makes jobs costly, or ineffective. For the situation recounted it would be interesting why follow up results happened as described. If following poisoning the previous tally is unknown. New dogs would probably occupy vacant territories, possibly rapidly, and be relatively easy to trap. Speculation from the sofa, but the sort of scenario that drove holes in many of the assumptions jobs done were initially based on. And being animals, situations are not always consistent, scientific studies can show wide individual behaviour variations.
Great vid, some amazing country interesting to see all the dens. my bother and I were tracking a dog up a gully the other day and it jumped out in front of us, gave us a heart attack sadly didn’t get him, but our neighbour trapped he a few weeks later. Good to see that you got your dog keep up great work👌.
@Its a Doggers Life it is interesting sandy country for holding water. If you go down 8ft you can hit a layer heavy clay. Walking through that cypress growth is not done at pace.
Hi Massimo, It depends on the time of year and the dog/dogs that we are targeting at the time. Most instances a natural glad lure or dog urine will work well. Thanks for watching 👍
I just want to say cheers for the service that you guys do for our farmers and native animals. I run a pest control company in Sydney and do a bit of feral cat,dog,deer control for a few customers/friends in the bush. Everyone knows about cats now(hopefully), but It's still difficult to get some people to accept the damage that wild dogs can do, I've been banging on about them for a while now, to a mixed reaction. Nice one fellas.
@@ItsaDoggersLife Working out how to monitor such areas for ongoing zero density deserves attention, incursions are always a serious risk with fenced areas. How to get any incursions fast is the next challenge, & it seems from watching there might be useful additional trap techniques to trial.
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It's still a lot better than 1080. Well done.
The factual basis for that comment would be helpful. Extensive use of that (& similar) the techniques on different species in different circumstances has failed to detect many of the "problems" claimed. Some certainly exist, & the Australian situation is fundamentally different.
But what has been clear checking these dogging channels is some apparently successful operators have flawed biased attitudes. Some of these relate to situations personally experienced very differently, suggesting either disinformation of lack of competence.
Assuming such information source is gospel when related to emotive issues like poison gains its own reward.
Interesting to see localised eradication projects as opposed to the "sustained control" control pulse's that most seem to adopt. It would be really interesting to compare the effect on non-domestic stock species.
The disturbance issues and sequence of methods (& sometimes operators) makes a difference, & getting the last ones can need what works on the spot, even if indelicate. Job done satisfaction though, ends & means. Interesting to see how unfamiliar species (dogs) are dealt with. They were poisoned & shot to effective extinction in NZ relatively quickly, but didn't have the food available in the forest refuge. & I recall an old chap recalling the use of dogs to catch some of the remnants, risky for the dogs.
You would love dangor ranges wild as. Love ya work.
Just found your channel and subscribed to it. I am a coyote trapper from West Virginia in the United States. I will be watching your videos hope all is well with you all.
Hey, Thank you so much for your support Ill return the favour and check out your channel. Cheers Chris
job well done
Thanks Dave S for watching and the commenting mate I appreciate it 👍
Good job lads, you blokes have some of the better vids out there.
I'm a local trapper in SE Qld and come straight in behind the baiting and trapping contractors looking for those hard to get rougue dogs, last block the council contractors got 3 dogs in 6 weeks - I started trapping 2 days after they left and got 7 dogs in 10 days same spot, just goes to show the difference by doing it right.
Note the high vantage point on each of those dens
Keep up the good work gentlemen
R Stone, Cheers for the kind words mate, I appreciate you taking the time to watch and also commenting. Keep into them mate good stuff 👍
Had the chance to evaluate ground hunting both ungulate & possums (NZ) for pest control, & engaged a variety of hunters (all thinking they were the best in the SI) & in one species, recreational hunters. The majority had problems reducing numbers to below the critical threshold that enabled vulnerable species to recover. People & politics & preconceived assertions were the biggest problems. Hunters (particularly managers) are often unwilling to listen, or understand effective control. Many are out of their depth. Some of the worst were those who could get tallies, they were a positive nuisance working eradication (even low density) jobs, many managers could not assimilate that. Makes jobs costly, or ineffective.
For the situation recounted it would be interesting why follow up results happened as described. If following poisoning the previous tally is unknown. New dogs would probably occupy vacant territories, possibly rapidly, and be relatively easy to trap. Speculation from the sofa, but the sort of scenario that drove holes in many of the assumptions jobs done were initially based on. And being animals, situations are not always consistent, scientific studies can show wide individual behaviour variations.
Great vid, some amazing country interesting to see all the dens. my bother and I were tracking a dog up a gully the other day and it jumped out in front of us, gave us a heart attack sadly didn’t get him, but our neighbour trapped he a few weeks later.
Good to see that you got your dog keep up great work👌.
Thank you Kirsten I appreciate you taking the time to watch it 👍
Well done mate another great video. Persistence is key with the cunning barstereds.
Cheer Robert I appreciate it👍 Thats exactly right.
That looks like that hard Leyburn country.
It sure does Mate, Similar country not far away it was near Cecil Plains 👍
@Its a Doggers Life it is interesting sandy country for holding water. If you go down 8ft you can hit a layer heavy clay. Walking through that cypress growth is not done at pace.
was wondering what u use as a lure?pls
Hi Massimo, It depends on the time of year and the dog/dogs that we are targeting at the time. Most instances a natural glad lure or dog urine will work well. Thanks for watching 👍
I just want to say cheers for the service that you guys do for our farmers and native animals. I run a pest control company in Sydney and do a bit of feral cat,dog,deer control for a few customers/friends in the bush. Everyone knows about cats now(hopefully), but It's still difficult to get some people to accept the damage that wild dogs can do, I've been banging on about them for a while now, to a mixed reaction. Nice one fellas.
Thank you for commenting and taking the time to watch mate. I'm glad you liked it 👍
Thanks to you both for doing your bit
Cat or dog
Anything feral.
Needs removal asap
Thanks again
Have you ever had a trap close on your hand or hands before
No I haven't yet....
Another great video mate! Some great dens there. Now there is nothing to occupy them!
Ain't that the truth... Yeah it was a great job every year out there but I'm still over the moon for them now its Dog Free👍
@@ItsaDoggersLife Working out how to monitor such areas for ongoing zero density deserves attention, incursions are always a serious risk with fenced areas. How to get any incursions fast is the next challenge, & it seems from watching there might be useful additional trap techniques to trial.