Great video as always. I’ve been using OCLP to keep my 2014 15” Retina MacBook Pro (11,3) limping along. A few points I’d like to share with you/your viewers. 1) Since I think macOS Sonoma, you will need a 32 GB thumb drive. I was able to use a 16 GB from Big Sur to Ventura and Ventura to Monterey but when trying to make the Sonoma installer, it failed complaining about not enough space. I had to erase a 1TB SSD (too lazy to go buy a newer USB thumb drive) 2) Updates to macOS. Within same version (15.0 to 15.1 for example), you can use macOS System Preferences to do the update BUT, unlike supported macOS versions OCLP will get the full patch installer (~13 GB) versus a smaller delta installer. For an upgrade to the next major OS version (e.g. Monterey to Sonoma, definitely check OCLP for updates and build the installer like you show in your video. In general, OCLP will notify of an update. 3) Update root patches. OCLP will offer to do this but every time you do an update the root patches get undone. In my case, the resolution changes and the username and login box are tiny and the trackpad is a bit erratic (moves on its own). Once you log in, OCLP usually detects that you’re missing the root patches and offers to do so. My MacBook Pro actually runs Sequoia pretty well. Sadly as you mentioned not all features are supported so no Apple Intelligence and the fact the mirror iPhone app is in the dock to taunt you kinda sucks. But, I think after 10 years it’s probably about time to save for an M4 of some variety. Anyway, always enjoy your videos and hope someone finds my comment helpful. Cheers!
OCLP and Sequoia 15.1.1 on my MacPro 2013 8core is great and runs really well. Tried it on the MacBook 12 2017 i5 and it's not good. Runs slow , hot and depletes the battery quickly. Not advised.
Depending on how 'old' your Mac is, you MUST use a wired mouse and keyboard to install Ventura and upwards! The wireless won't work, because obviously no drivers available at the moment of installation!
Works great with my Mac Pro 2013, but have recently had problems launching apps like Chrome and Spotify and only ever get red artifacts as program windows. There is a fix for Chrome to render it via OpenGL. That's a bit of a shame, but hopefully the problem can be fixed in the future.
I pulled the trigger and installed OCLP some months ago on my 2013 Pro and have only had one minor problem which the Trouble Shooter page of the github pointed me to the correct solution. I”ve gone through OCLP upgrades and macOS upgrades since without real issue. The machine runs quite happily. An additional resource which I now follow (I had been waiting for Dayv to do this sooner) is the YT channel Mr Mackintosh (who incidentally tests all of the new OCLP and macOS releases against a collection of old hard ware he has). Maybe worth reaching out to him re the E-GPU subject?
The developer behind kryptonite made all the patches available to the OCLP team. I think the hope was that it would be included as part of OCLP. Hasn't happened yet, and it's been a while, so I'm guessing there's no motivation to do it. Maybe if enough of us request and donate... 😁
I've gone through the OCLP many times on my 2013 trash can, installed from Ventura to Sequoia and on all Google Crome fails to work. Yet Chrome works fine on my M2 Mini running Sequoia.. Very Confused!
I’ve never done it personally, but I can’t see why not. As I understand it, OCLP uses a standard macOS installer, and loads appropriate files for your system into memory at boot. If you’re upgrading to a new OS the patched version you have will be replaced anyway. It may be that you need to do a fresh install rather than an upgrade. As usual, back up any critical files before doing anything. Details for 5,1 support in OCLP are here: dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/MODELS.html#mac-pro
Do you have to jump through hoops to get future updates once this is completed? For example, if used this to install MacOS 15.1 Sequioa, would 15.2 install like any other supported Mac when it was available? Additiinally, when MacOS 16 come out in 2025, will that just install in general?
I installed OCLP/Sonoma on my 2013 Mac Pro, and the upgrade to Sequoia worked fine. Just make sure you use OCLP to do it and not the Apple Settings app. There is no guarantee OCLP will support MacOS 2025 on the Mac Pro 2013, but it’s highly likely.
15.1.1 runs like a dream on my 2013 MacPro 6,1. Like it was designed for it. Gotcha, Apple! Not so much on my i7 dual core MacBook Pro where it is intolerable. The reason? Graphics. The 6,1 is well equipped to run the very latest, graphics-intensive operating systems. But there are apps which will drag its graphics down. 99.9% of users will never see that. While pushing the sale of expensive replacement cards and the modular machines that can use them, it should be noted what kind of user is being targeted. Ultra HD editors performing DSP functions on multiple streams of 4k, 8k is standard procedure for network-level video editing. That almost imperceptibly small number of users can’t do their work without it. Same goes for 3D CAD realtime display, CGI in films and television, fluid dynamics engineering. It is a very small group but their work affects us all to some degree. They need the ‘excess’ and you (general user of computers) don’t.
I've got a MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014); running Mac OS BigSur 11.7.10 (20G1427). My screen is totally broken so my macbook pro is permanently connected to an external monitor via HDMI. My question is can I still attempt to upgrade my OS using OpenCore Legacy Patcher, my worry is if during the process, the HDMI connection stops working, then i wont be able to use my laptop anymore as the laptop screen is broken. Can anyone please help and let me know if you think the HDMI connection wont be interrupted during the process? thanks
Too bad new builds of Kryptonite are no longer being made. I use an eGPU with my Mac Pro 2013 and enjoy the benefits of using one so staying on Monterey here as well.
I'm watching your videos when utube show them to me; I'm stillamazed to see the same videos about OCLP on old Macs. Sure those people did a great job. People sell their old macs with Monterey. I still use my late 2013 27 inch Imac with El Capitan. I don't need new software and don't use internet on it. DIdn't try oclp on my intel Macs. My imac heats and make noise so I doubt it would get better with something that wasn't made for it. Then I like to keep the macs how they were with my old software I can use from time to time. It's enjoyable to use an old G4, trying to modify an old comp is not something I would do. I have an M1 mac mini that sadly is a nightmare since you can't change the RAM. I use mostly for the net.Apple always been expensive and made terrible versions too. I kept my G4 longer cos I didn't want to buy Intel Macs. Until I have to and got a great IMAC I still use.
Great video. But I guess once Appe drops Intel support all together, there will no longer be OSX updates even unofficial as they will be for ARM only, sniff😢 no more 🍏
This is true. We should have a bit longer thanks to the 2019 Mac Pro. Apple will need to support that... you'd like to think for at least another 2-3 releases.
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Great video as always. I’ve been using OCLP to keep my 2014 15” Retina MacBook Pro (11,3) limping along. A few points I’d like to share with you/your viewers.
1) Since I think macOS Sonoma, you will need a 32 GB thumb drive. I was able to use a 16 GB from Big Sur to Ventura and Ventura to Monterey but when trying to make the Sonoma installer, it failed complaining about not enough space. I had to erase a 1TB SSD (too lazy to go buy a newer USB thumb drive)
2) Updates to macOS. Within same version (15.0 to 15.1 for example), you can use macOS System Preferences to do the update BUT, unlike supported macOS versions OCLP will get the full patch installer (~13 GB) versus a smaller delta installer. For an upgrade to the next major OS version (e.g. Monterey to Sonoma, definitely check OCLP for updates and build the installer like you show in your video. In general, OCLP will notify of an update.
3) Update root patches. OCLP will offer to do this but every time you do an update the root patches get undone. In my case, the resolution changes and the username and login box are tiny and the trackpad is a bit erratic (moves on its own). Once you log in, OCLP usually detects that you’re missing the root patches and offers to do so.
My MacBook Pro actually runs Sequoia pretty well. Sadly as you mentioned not all features are supported so no Apple Intelligence and the fact the mirror iPhone app is in the dock to taunt you kinda sucks. But, I think after 10 years it’s probably about time to save for an M4 of some variety.
Anyway, always enjoy your videos and hope someone finds my comment helpful.
Cheers!
Really useful info - thank you for sharing.
I had a mid-2012 MBP 13 for a while, and used OCLP to install macOS Monterey. Worked like a charm.
Oh, and I just subscribed.
Thanks. Informative
Thank you 😊
OCLP and Sequoia 15.1.1 on my MacPro 2013 8core is great and runs really well. Tried it on the MacBook 12 2017 i5 and it's not good. Runs slow , hot and depletes the battery quickly. Not advised.
HOLY CRAP! What are the odds i bought a Mac Mini 2014 for this purpose just the other day. thanks, this was amazing and I was able to do it.
Great. How is that working performance wise? Does the system feel snappy or sloppy?
@ honestly not bad. Only issue is Safari is a big slow to load and run. But chrome’s just fine. Working great as a plex server
@@James_roche Thanks a ton for the instant reply! I'll check prices for such machines where I live and see if it's worth for me getting one.
Thanks!
Thank you 😊
Don't expect Universal control on the 6,1 unless one can spoof it with a a 7,1 serial number.
you can with that Martin lo patcher
Depending on how 'old' your Mac is, you MUST use a wired mouse and keyboard to install Ventura and upwards!
The wireless won't work, because obviously no drivers available at the moment of installation!
I believe you can plug in a wireless keyboard or touchpad with the USB-Lightning cable. Won’t help much with the Apple mouse though!!! 😁
Just acquired at 2013 Mac Pro and am excited to get to this! For a "normal", non e-GPU user, what is the latest macOS your recommend running?
Works great with my Mac Pro 2013, but have recently had problems launching apps like Chrome and Spotify and only ever get red artifacts as program windows. There is a fix for Chrome to render it via OpenGL. That's a bit of a shame, but hopefully the problem can be fixed in the future.
I pulled the trigger and installed OCLP some months ago on my 2013 Pro and have only had one minor problem which the Trouble Shooter page of the github pointed me to the correct solution. I”ve gone through OCLP upgrades and macOS upgrades since without real issue. The machine runs quite happily. An additional resource which I now follow (I had been waiting for Dayv to do this sooner) is the YT channel Mr Mackintosh (who incidentally tests all of the new OCLP and macOS releases against a collection of old hard ware he has). Maybe worth reaching out to him re the E-GPU subject?
The developer behind kryptonite made all the patches available to the OCLP team. I think the hope was that it would be included as part of OCLP. Hasn't happened yet, and it's been a while, so I'm guessing there's no motivation to do it. Maybe if enough of us request and donate... 😁
@@ConstantGeekery 👍
4:32 and his hand disappears behind the screen. Is he real or should we call him AI????
I've gone through the OCLP many times on my 2013 trash can, installed from Ventura to Sequoia and on all Google Crome fails to work. Yet Chrome works fine on my M2 Mini running Sequoia.. Very Confused!
Fortunately, the newest versions of both Firefox and Safari work on my Mac Pro 2013 w/OCLP and Sequoia. I’ve never tried Chrome.
Thank you, very informative video. I already used dosdude1 patch to install Catalina on my 5.1, can I go oclp on top of that to update my os more?
I’ve never done it personally, but I can’t see why not. As I understand it, OCLP uses a standard macOS installer, and loads appropriate files for your system into memory at boot. If you’re upgrading to a new OS the patched version you have will be replaced anyway. It may be that you need to do a fresh install rather than an upgrade. As usual, back up any critical files before doing anything.
Details for 5,1 support in OCLP are here: dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/MODELS.html#mac-pro
Do you have to jump through hoops to get future updates once this is completed?
For example, if used this to install MacOS 15.1 Sequioa, would 15.2 install like any other supported Mac when it was available?
Additiinally, when MacOS 16 come out in 2025, will that just install in general?
I installed OCLP/Sonoma on my 2013 Mac Pro, and the upgrade to Sequoia worked fine. Just make sure you use OCLP to do it and not the Apple Settings app.
There is no guarantee OCLP will support MacOS 2025 on the Mac Pro 2013, but it’s highly likely.
15.1.1 runs like a dream on my 2013 MacPro 6,1. Like it was designed for it. Gotcha, Apple! Not so much on my i7 dual core MacBook Pro where it is intolerable. The reason? Graphics.
The 6,1 is well equipped to run the very latest, graphics-intensive operating systems. But there are apps which will drag its graphics down. 99.9% of users will never see that.
While pushing the sale of expensive replacement cards and the modular machines that can use them, it should be noted what kind of user is being targeted. Ultra HD editors performing DSP functions on multiple streams of 4k, 8k is standard procedure for network-level video editing. That almost imperceptibly small number of users can’t do their work without it. Same goes for 3D CAD realtime display, CGI in films and television, fluid dynamics engineering. It is a very small group but their work affects us all to some degree. They need the ‘excess’ and you (general user of computers) don’t.
I've got a MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014); running Mac OS BigSur 11.7.10 (20G1427). My screen is totally broken so my macbook pro is permanently connected to an external monitor via HDMI. My question is can I still attempt to upgrade my OS using OpenCore Legacy Patcher, my worry is if during the process, the HDMI connection stops working, then i wont be able to use my laptop anymore as the laptop screen is broken. Can anyone please help and let me know if you think the HDMI connection wont be interrupted during the process? thanks
Too bad new builds of Kryptonite are no longer being made. I use an eGPU with my Mac Pro 2013 and enjoy the benefits of using one so staying on Monterey here as well.
Me too. Not giving up my Radeon Vega 56 for AMD Fire Pro 300
The code has been given to the OpenCore team, so it's possible it could be ome part of OCLP I guess. Probably wishful thinking.
I'm watching your videos when utube show them to me; I'm stillamazed to see the same videos about OCLP on old Macs. Sure those people did a great job. People sell their old macs with Monterey. I still use my late 2013 27 inch Imac with El Capitan. I don't need new software and don't use internet on it. DIdn't try oclp on my intel Macs. My imac heats and make noise so I doubt it would get better with something that wasn't made for it. Then I like to keep the macs how they were with my old software I can use from time to time. It's enjoyable to use an old G4, trying to modify an old comp is not something I would do. I have an M1 mac mini that sadly is a nightmare since you can't change the RAM. I use mostly for the net.Apple always been expensive and made terrible versions too. I kept my G4 longer cos I didn't want to buy Intel Macs. Until I have to and got a great IMAC I still use.
Great video.
But I guess once Appe drops Intel support all together, there will no longer be OSX updates even unofficial as they will be for ARM only, sniff😢 no more 🍏
This is true. We should have a bit longer thanks to the 2019 Mac Pro. Apple will need to support that... you'd like to think for at least another 2-3 releases.
Thanks
nice
Don't forget To tell this lose eGPU support upgrading pass Monterey
I did 😁